Is This The BIGGEST Shaper on YouTube? | Klopp 1000H Shaper

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.พ. 2022
  • This might just be the biggest metal hydraulic shaper on TH-cam! We are finally getting our big Klopp 1000H Shaper out of storage and moved into the workshop. So we wanted to show everyone what it is and what it can do. We give a full walkaround tour of our Klopp shaper, plus we do some test cuts on a big chunk of high tensile plate and make some HEAVY CUTS and BIG CHIPS! We can’t wait for you to see what it can do and what we have planned for it next.
    Join our channel:
    We upload new videos every Friday at 5pm AEST! If you want to see more of our videos click LIKE & SUBSCRIBE! You can subscribe to our channel here: bit.ly/ceesubscribe
    Join our Patreon community: / cuttingedgeengineering
    To see more follow us on online here:
    Instagram / cutting_edge_engineering
    Facebook / cuttingedgeengineering...
    Official CEE Merch shop: www.ceeshop.com.au
    Check out our AMAZON store and explore our favourite finds that we use in the workshop:
    www.amazon.com/shop/cuttinged...
    About Us:
    Our channel is all about showing you real life machining work from our workshop on the Gold Coast Australia. We specialize in manual machining, hydraulic repairs and heavy fabrication for the earth moving, mining and civil construction industries. So if you're a machinist that wants to see some big gear in action be sure to subscribe to our channel right now. We upload new videos every week that show lathe machining, milling, welding and all the good stuff that comes from a machining workshop. If that sounds like something that you would enjoy seeing, then make sure to join us by subscribing!
    Music: www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
    #australianmachinist #machineshop #machinist
  • วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี

ความคิดเห็น • 3.9K

  • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
    @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    This might just be the biggest shaper on TH-cam!? We hope you enjoy seeing what this beast of a machine can do and what we have planned for it next 😎👍
    Enjoyed this video? WATCH these next 👇
    Our 1970's International Yard Crane: th-cam.com/video/Ys5ca0DUXE0/w-d-xo.html
    Our 1960's Delapena Honing Machine: th-cam.com/video/cjPEC0aHoXA/w-d-xo.html
    Subscribe and hit the bell icon to turn on notifications so you don't miss our weekly uploads. 👇 🤳
    Follow us online here:
    Instagram instagram.com/cutting_edge_engineering
    Facebook facebook.com/cuttingedgeengineeringaustralia/
    Official CEE Merch shop: www.ceeshop.com.au

    • @wm12ga
      @wm12ga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Fireball tools has you beat I think.

    • @HairyNumbNuts
      @HairyNumbNuts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah, I was going to say Fireballs wins this measuring competition.

    • @jakesteel3641
      @jakesteel3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@HairyNumbNuts abom79

    • @The.Talent
      @The.Talent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jakesteel3641 I think Abom79’s current biggest is a 36” and as we were so clearly reminded by Kurtis in this video, “every inch counts”

    • @ThePirateGod
      @ThePirateGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@wm12ga Fireball Tools is 36" this is 39"

  • @colingooden3711
    @colingooden3711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    Being an apprentice on London Transport in the late 70’s, they built a new workshop with a big shaper, purely for cutting tapers on railway lines, for points and cross overs. All worked fine for a few months until a big job came in, the shaper was set to max stroke, for the first time. When switched on the ram moved back and crashed straight through the rear wall of the building.

    • @insertgoodname4809
      @insertgoodname4809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      😄

    • @KathrynLiz1
      @KathrynLiz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oops......

    • @dirtfarmer7472
      @dirtfarmer7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Big oops !

    • @bradyoung6663
      @bradyoung6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I'm not sure if that's a rough day at work, or a great day at work.

    • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
      @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@bradyoung6663 That would depend on whether or not you were the one in charge of placing the machine or just watching the new machine being put through it's paces...if you were in charge of placement, you now have some explaining to do as to why you didn't know how far back the ram moved and why the machine wasn't placed far enough away from the wall to ensure it had clearance and it's a HORRIBLE day at work...if you were just watching, it's a GREAT day at work...
      What I wanna know is were there any people on the other side of the wall when the arm came smashing through it? Can you just picture it, a couple of people standing near or walking past that wall having a conversation when SMASH! there's chunks of concrete block flying everywhere and the wall now has a new window...that would most definitely be a WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!?! moment...

  • @BrettMcS
    @BrettMcS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    "There are no jobs that are too big, only machines that are too small".

    • @toolnuts7777
      @toolnuts7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what my tells me !

    • @toolnuts7777
      @toolnuts7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      edit wife that is !

    • @dinkopeychev5203
      @dinkopeychev5203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well this one is 39.5 bananas as he said so...kinda big

    • @indian.techsupport
      @indian.techsupport ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And there are machines, that cant be built bigger

    • @dinkopeychev5203
      @dinkopeychev5203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@indian.techsupport we can just add more bananas to it with tape

  • @robertharris9469
    @robertharris9469 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My Dad’s shop was much like what yours is today just 50 years difference in age. It was a one man master machinists shop with one large hollow spindle, and a LeBlond for fine work. A shaper similar in size to yours, a radial arm drill (very large) for line boring and some types of large scale mill work. Our mill was a early Bridgeport. Welding at that time was Gas and Arc. Of course a myriad of other machines and devices purchased from places upgrading tools or auctions of failed companies. I worked there every Saturday cleaning and lubing. I’ve never seen another machinist other than him that seemed to absorb and understand metallurgy like you do. It’s becoming a lost art. You are a true master machinist and it’s an art form in your hands. Thanks for reviving the memories of my dad.

    • @raulrubio2862
      @raulrubio2862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Beautiful story

  • @Dirk-Ulowetz
    @Dirk-Ulowetz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    In one of the factories, I worked, we had a 650. But with mechanical gearbox. It was the pride and joy of my boss, because this was the first machine, he bought new. To see your machine completely rusted... I just wanted to cry. Good, that you want to restore it.
    The wide sidesteps are very useful. Take a chisel with a radius of 80 to 100 mm, then you can use a cutting depth of 0.2mm by a sidestep of up to 8mm. Then you get a surface, that you see on older drilling presses or milling machines. On the table, where the wises are sitting.
    And with this machine... there is no other machine, who can make this surfaces faster.
    Sorry, if something reads a bit weird, I'm not an English native speaker, I only had it in school 40 years ago. I'm living in Germany. Greetings from Stuttgart.

    • @Baerschi100
      @Baerschi100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Dirk, in diesem Video ist mit "depth of cut" die vertikale Einstellung und mit "step over" die horizontale Einstellung gemeint. Ich dachte bisher immer, dass mit depth of cut das Maß gemeint ist, mit dem man Material in einem Zug abnimmt. Aber bei einem "Shaper" scheint wohl eine andere Benennung zu herrschen. Wie nennt man so ein Gerät überhaupt auf Deutsch? Ich kenne das nur aus englischsprachigen Videos. Ich bin kein Schlosser oder Feinmechaniker, sondern Elektriker. So ist mit das alles nicht so geläufig. Aber ich interessiere mich trotzdem sehr und schaue schon seit Jahren Videos, wie Leute Metall in Späne verwandeln.

    • @Dirk-Ulowetz
      @Dirk-Ulowetz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Baerschi100 da sich hier der Kopf mit dem Meißel bewegt, ist das eine Stoßmaschine. Bewegt sich stattdessen der Tisch, spricht man von einer Hobelmaschine. Ich kenne allerdings viele, für die alles eine Hobelmaschine ist. Korrekt ist aber die oben beschriebene Unterscheidung.
      Ach ja, ich bin ausgebildeter Industriemechaniker und Industriemeister IHK. Ich sollte also wissen, wovon ich rede. Zumindest auf deutsch. 😅

    • @Dirk-Ulowetz
      @Dirk-Ulowetz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Baerschi100 außerdem stimmt es dann, was ich geschrieben habe. Willst du Breitschlichthobeln, wählst du einen Meißel mit 100er Radius, stellst 0,2 mm zu und versetzst den Meißel mit jedem Hub um 8 mm. Dadurch bekommst du das Bild, was du häufig auf älteren Bohr- oder Fräsmaschinen auf den Tischen siehst.

  • @jonnowindow2075
    @jonnowindow2075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Looks like Abom has a challenger for chip of the week. Some meter long (40 bananas) chips coming at ya Adam.
    Going to be a great asset for you Kurtis.

    • @domingo59
      @domingo59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I cant stand watching Adam anymore! He used to be good. Now hes just after the $$. This would be a 7 part video with 50 or more ads.
      Curtis and Karen have nailed it 100%. Best channel on Utube by far.

    • @chrisbolton4900
      @chrisbolton4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Abom has that big open side shaper stored at his buddies place in central Florida. Now that he has his new shop space, I’m sure it will be one of the next machines to get moved in there.

    • @mrnick5709
      @mrnick5709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hobby machine for a hobby machinist...

    • @WoLpH
      @WoLpH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Lately the only Abom sized thing on Abom's channel is Abom himself. I do hope he gets back to the actual (heavy) machining instead of all of the sponsored content, trips and other stuff

    • @wim0104
      @wim0104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WoLpH I wanna hear him talk us through big stuff again too, but it's nice that he took it easy for a while, hopefully for a run-up into big stuff in the big new shoppe!

  • @jcota2003
    @jcota2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I love watching shapers... just the simplicity of how the tool works in addition to the raw material removal... and the sound is never the shrill sound that you sometimes get with chatter on a mill. I think I could watch a shaper run all day and never get bored with it

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Right on!

    • @Craigthemoose
      @Craigthemoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It's shaper porn, really.

    • @LeonardRoberts
      @LeonardRoberts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shapers have always been one of those relaxing machines to watch operate. I know it's better for the tool to be lifted on back stroke however there is something satisfying about the "clap" at the end of the back stroke. Those were some pretty massive curly-Qs she was making. No doubt someone into metal art would love some of those pieces to work with.

    • @MrKotBonifacy
      @MrKotBonifacy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LeonardRoberts Yeah, just like steam locos. A fascinating and mesmerising spectacle (but in the positive sense of this word) to watch. And they share some other characteristic with those majestic behemoths of bygone era - "you can make anything you want with them, except the money" ;-)
      But yes, a fun to watch. I saw "my" first shaper in action at my secondary school workshop, and that was like... uh, time flies - in 1980 or '81. It was a rather small shop, just few lathes, one horizontal milling machine, welding area, one big press-drill and one small one, and few big workbenches with sturdy vices ("vises" for those on the wrong side of the pond ;-) AND a tiny shaper. Which instantly draw my attention the moment I saw it at work.
      I guess there's something "human-like" in workings of steam locos and shapers... But I'd rather don't delve into the latter case, wink wink, nudge nudge... ;-) TOT made a good joke about it, check the link in my other comment here. Cheers!

    • @LeonardRoberts
      @LeonardRoberts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @MrKotBonifacy A big fan of steam locomotive, steam tractors and old fuel oil tractors (yes I know technically call traction motors). Simple yet elegant.

  • @frussell3
    @frussell3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Back in the late 1970s I occasionally operated a Klopp 1000 Shaper in the PTCNSW workshop in Randwick. We used the shaper to finish machine the profile and angles on long cast iron chocks that are used in the assembly of railway crossings. It was my first introduction to the shaper and it was a steep learning curve. This video brought back memeories.

  • @noddey
    @noddey ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A tip for moving heavy stuff is getting some steel pipes underneath, it would almost roll out of that conteiner by itself. Or get some steel underneath with some grease to minimize friction, with the wood floor you need a lot more pullingforce to overcome the friction.

  • @iwanogaref
    @iwanogaref 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Very impressive machine! Thirty years ago, I when I was a apprentice, I used to work on its little brother, a Klopp 625. Amazing how a German shaper has found its way down under. Greetings from Hamburg, Germany

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably there are not too many of them manufactured here! (ie in Oz)

  • @mrmiscast
    @mrmiscast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was taught as a teenager to run a shaper, almost the dimensions of your Klopp. It was in a small machine shop with 10 employees, but when they wanted something fairly large to be nice and straight, this was the machine that got used. I can still smell that oil being turned to smoke and hear that click when the shaving comes flying off the tool at the end of the stroke. Love it... Hope you get enough time to show the restoration with your friend, can't wait to see how well it turns out... It will be a nice tool for your great shop... Thanks as always for the great video and the funny bits... Homeless is certainly in charge there.... I know that feeling well also...

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When your chips make a clanging sound, you’ve reached a new level. Congratulations!

  • @GuyChapman
    @GuyChapman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had forgotten the simple pleasure of a shaper at work. There’s something timeless about it.

  • @gumwap1
    @gumwap1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Shapers definitely make the coolest chips of any machine.

    • @davidkettell5726
      @davidkettell5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As long as one does not hit you ,we used to put a screen in front of ours and a chip pan for them to drop into. Someone forgot one day and a guy took a big chip to the back of the neck ten yards away . To say he was pissed would be an understatement !

    • @rushoffman965
      @rushoffman965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      >coolest

    • @KG-yn9qi
      @KG-yn9qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got to love Mrs. Giggles ! She is so sweet!!! Lucky man! Little bit of pipe as roller would go a long way !

    • @superchickensoup
      @superchickensoup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a Tefal fryer for my chips

  • @mv4ago
    @mv4ago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    When I started my apprenticeship in 1974 we had several of these shapers in the college machine shop. One day we set one going on the max speed, max stroke length and max depth of cut. The thing jumped around so much it pulled the bolts right out of the concrete floor and slid backwards into an internal brick wall whereupon the back of the ram started knocking bricks out into the corridor next door! We were too shit-scared to go near the damn thing to turn it off, it was leaping around all over the place. Fortunately one of the lecturers heard it knocking the wall down, ran into the workshop and switched it off at the isolator otherwise it would probably have knocked down the entire two-storey building! These things are brutal, I only ever saw them used in college and never in actual manufacturing, I suppose milling machines made them obsolete.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      wow good times 😅👍

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You didn't say, but I'm assuming the machine survived unscathed?

    • @manfredschmalbach9023
      @manfredschmalbach9023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fredygump5578 Needed just a thorough dusting I reckon.

    • @rosspetit6647
      @rosspetit6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a shame YT wasn't around back then. Would have made for a hilarious video..... especially if you photoshopped some some minions at the controls 🤣🤣

    • @webtoedman
      @webtoedman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My little ten inch stroke Royal likes to go for a walk around the workshop if I do that.

  • @chadterry9770
    @chadterry9770 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    With the right tools man can do anything, I mean anything. Tools to make tools to make tools.

  • @andrewsmith4148
    @andrewsmith4148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Two things. Firstly, it's great to see your yard crane in action - I love that machine.
    Second, It's nice to see someone demonstrating a shaper's capabilities. I was lucky enough to spend time in the workshops at university when the big shaper was being run. The sheer amount of metal that can be removed in a single pass is astonishing.
    I look forward to seeing progress on this.

  • @billhouchens7439
    @billhouchens7439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    By God, Kurtis, that shaper is a frigging beast! Single pass coil springs!! Funny how Homey recognized the new machine and checked it over for safety!

    • @highpointsights
      @highpointsights 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Single pass chain links! The welding might be a bit tricky!

  • @VikingRhys
    @VikingRhys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The manufacture and engineering of this machine is just phenomenol. Made to do vast amounts of work over generations of worker's lives. Let's also take a moment to properly appreciate that this truly amazing machine was made in a post war Germany after only a mere five years of everything being literally flattened by thousands of bombing raids. That makes this machine's creation go from impressive to completely mind boggling. Put into perspective, I'd say there's still only a handful of places around the world with the heavy industry that are still capable of making this kind of machine from scratch. Oh and surprise surprise guys, I just checked and unlike most of our big machine makers from the 1950's in the UK, Klopp are still very much indeed making milling machines. No doubt if this machine ever requires a replacement part (unlikely), Klopp would be willing to provide...... So this machine is definitely something that needs to be taken care of and appreciated for what it really is. Thanks for uploading this video on TH-cam.

    • @markiobook8639
      @markiobook8639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Absolutely. US and USSR took the megapresses of Germany. I read one of the factories the press was looted from- throughouly flattened- the owner said, "well, they took our tools- so now we'll have to make bigger and better tools- and they made a 40,000 tonne press", USA's ALCOA Press 50,000 tonne press was refurbished in Germany- the only nation bar Russia with the machinery and casting facilities to make it.The Soviet 50,000 tonne Press was based on the 25,000, 30,000 and 35,000 tonne German presses and in China- always playing catch-up in game everyone else stopped playing- took a Soviet press, (essentially German) beefed it up and 75,000 tonne press. Much like their Soyuz-based Long March missiles.

    • @adrianbarker1054
      @adrianbarker1054 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Germany rebuilt with USA and UK money whilst UK factories had to get by with outdated machinery

  • @Sandhoeflyerhome
    @Sandhoeflyerhome 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm from England. I am amazed at this blokes skill level and knowledge. Plus it is so informative. The other plus he is clearly a nice guy. I am glues to each program and so surprised this topic would be for me. Thanks

  • @higgs923
    @higgs923 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love to see shapers coming back. Started machine shop in 1973 and worked my way up to prototype machinist. Thanks for your thorough videos!

  • @thecorbies
    @thecorbies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    What an absolutely beautiful and very capable machine. Really looking forward to a full restoration.
    Abom79 will be envious I'm sure.
    Regards Mark in the UK

    • @dirtyfabrication401
      @dirtyfabrication401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      abom79 sure loves shapers he would love a massive one like this

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    We had the small one at school. Shop teacher spoke highly of it, we did one course and project on it as a lesson. Something cool, southing about the nice long cuts. I seem to remember warnings about the “there’s no stopping it, so make sure the setup is correct”. I cringe when I think of these machines going in the melt furnaces, they are worth so much more than their weight in scrap.

  • @gcflower99
    @gcflower99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great beast and it's still alive! Looking forward to Matty's restoration.

  • @randyadams7269
    @randyadams7269 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was very surprised the yard crane handled the shaper. Recently watched you service it. Impressed again. That shaper is a metal eater. Thanks

  • @OwnerOfOwn
    @OwnerOfOwn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    does fireball tool have you beat on this one? still amazing equipment, glad to see it up and running!
    EDIT: fireball tool has a 36 inch shaper and yours is 39.5 bananas. Absolute UNIT

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rippa!

    • @james6667
      @james6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fireball is bigger

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@james6667 nope it’s smaller

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You think that’s a shaper???
      Now this is a shaper!

    • @voprais
      @voprais 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@james6667 Fireball's shaper is physically bigger because it's mechanical rather than hydraulic, but its maximum stroke is shorter.

  • @tvhistory3397
    @tvhistory3397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    We used two of these in the workshop of the NedStaal steel foundry in the Netherlands. They were from june 1961, never broke down and required minimal maintenance. Built like a tank.

    • @rikard4511
      @rikard4511 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So, with room for a crew inside?

    • @markiobook8639
      @markiobook8639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rikard4511 a little man rides a bicycle providing the coolant.

  • @gmeast
    @gmeast 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really love the 'crisp' sound of the cut ... testimony to the rigidity and quality of the beast! Thanks for showing.

  • @janstolk486
    @janstolk486 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when i was 14 years old i run one of these !
    man , this takes me back .

  • @kenthesparky178
    @kenthesparky178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Hi love these size machines. They remind me so much of my apprenticeship in the Sheffield steel works where all the machinery was huge ,this would have been a small machine in those days. Fireball tools has a 36inch Cincinnati shaper that weighs 11000 lbs (around 5.5tonnes).I would love to see you two colaborate on a project one day using both machines.Keep making these sorts of videos as everyone will love them.👍👌

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Gday Kurtis and Karen, what an awesome machine and every inch does matter😉, I’m really looking forward to heading up there and helping out with the restoration, I’m quite sure once the vice is on and the tools has less stick out it will do a 30mm+ doc, I’ll be in touch very soon mate, awesome video as always, have a great weekend, cheers

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      We're looking forward to it mate should be a good project with your help! Cheers 😎👍

    • @mmazz30
      @mmazz30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Looks like I’ll have to sub to Matty’s Workshop as well. Did I hear a yes? 😉

    • @Rustinox
      @Rustinox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nice of you Matty to go and help with the shaper. Don't forget to bring your camera :) That's gonna be really interesting videos.

    • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
      @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      First thing I said to myself was "hope he's gonna restore that beauty", so I'll be looking forward to your videos.
      Well, actually first thing I said was "that truck is NOT gonna work"

    • @RalfyCustoms
      @RalfyCustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matty has to be the antipodean shaper go to bloke 👏

  • @andrewbooth1420
    @andrewbooth1420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your old school attitude Dude. Operated many of the machines you show in a long career in various countries. It has to be tough to make them pay in this day and age.

  • @Dwohman
    @Dwohman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Homeless looks so cute in that shirt😊

  • @robertg.2346
    @robertg.2346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great machine made in my Home Country and KLOPP is still existing and still producing Heavy-Duty, Hydraulic Traversing, High-Speed Shaping Machines.
    Again a great video

    • @someoneelse7629
      @someoneelse7629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe send them the link to this video, and Kurtis might get som sponsorship from the company

  • @phlodel
    @phlodel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    A machine shop I worked for had a Rockwell shaper just a little smaller than this one. We cut large internal splines, as I recall about 6 bananas in diameter. the spline grooves were a banana wide and it made the full width in one cut, about .040 banana deep per cut, in 4140. It didn't have an automatic downfeed so we built a ratchet mechanism to feed it down on the backstroke.

  • @ebayollis
    @ebayollis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so jealous...I love old metal working machines. I used to run a few 1940s LeBlonde lathes and loved every second of it

  • @billofalltrades2633
    @billofalltrades2633 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching old machines work. This is very impressive, I've never seen a machine like this. Can't wait to see the restoration!

  • @7891ph
    @7891ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Oh, this is a blast from the past!!! It's been almost 30 year's since I last ran a shaper and that was only a couple of years after I started in the machinist trade. And yes, you summed it up very well; for what a shaper can do, it can do very well, extremely efficiently. It's just that it's range of use is very nitche specific, which is why they're obsolete for day to day use.
    But for what you want to use it for??? Ace in the hole!!! And when you get it restored and finally placed, this is one machine you're going to need to grout the base on, otherwise the outboard table support will be useless. I'm betting that the manual that your friend copied should have the correct instructions to do it right. You're also going to want build a chip trap for it, otherwise your neighborhood will come hunting for your head about flat tires.... That first shop out of high school had personal experience with that before they added one....

  • @lesgaal4017
    @lesgaal4017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Gee Kurt's you have nailed it this time what a beauty, I have a 1940 Cincinnati hyd shaper used in the ford motor company armaments factory for war production. Absolutely love them never get sick of using it great for dovetail joints. Great machine German quality and have a ball w it have a day.

    • @CuttingEdgeEngineering
      @CuttingEdgeEngineering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Awesome mate even better that you know the back story and history of your old girl

    • @JFWGarage
      @JFWGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I work at the old ford factory in Geelong, Victoria at Marand precision engineering. Where we use the old Okuma mill that ford use to make castings and other things with it (huge machines)

    • @scottomara8975
      @scottomara8975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I work on one 25 years a go and it small one I love it back then so great you have big 1000 I love to see look new soon.

    • @hanshoogendyk2203
      @hanshoogendyk2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned to use a shaper ( not this big lol) at trade school when I was 13 years old in Holland

  • @Drogenjohnny
    @Drogenjohnny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From my experience as a service engineer (for much more delicate stuff) I would recommend to replace the two top screws of the cover plate for the oil sump with studs and nuts. Then you can hang the cover on until it’s completely unscrewed :)

  • @livingwellregardless7523
    @livingwellregardless7523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the commitment to keeping old stuff going.

  • @Vendettanjm
    @Vendettanjm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That crane is a beast. I bet Homey could have tugged the shaper out of the container though, the forklift looked a bit weak.

    • @adamluke1289
      @adamluke1289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It looks like something out of Mad Max.

    • @morriewyatt6234
      @morriewyatt6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just hook one of those tug-of-war type toys to the shaper and Homey would have dragged it out of that container in an eyeblink.
      Tie one to the head of the shaper when its running and Homey would be set for hours of fun playing tug-of-war with it. Until the shaper got tired that is.

    • @juenger1701
      @juenger1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morriewyatt6234 this is Homie he'd break it

  • @robbbranche
    @robbbranche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a beast!!! The only thing that could've made this video even more fun would be editing in Homey taking a turn at pulling this monster out of the container after all the machines failed!!! This thing is impressive Kurtis, Thx for sharing it with us! And Matty, we're waiting.....😁

  • @radioace318la
    @radioace318la 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man, like a kid in a candy store. congrats getting into the shop. we just recived two of those 40' one trip shipping containers. They are awesome! Now I have to pick one up for my hunting camp in the woods.
    Thanks for sharing. I just discovered your channel. I enjoy it immensely.
    Cheers from Louisiana USA.

  • @wolfitirol8347
    @wolfitirol8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Klopp shapers were what Deckel was later for mills....best german erngineering art ....im really jealous now 😅😂😇
    Your doggo is an absolute cutie 😍

  • @oxtoolco
    @oxtoolco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Gotta love that feed rate locking knob! Bravo.

  • @MrMorbitron
    @MrMorbitron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love to see classic machines like this one get saved from the bone yard. Cheers to you for keeping it going! 👏🏻

  • @SouthSideChiTown
    @SouthSideChiTown 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The size, scale, and precision of the jobs you do are awesome. One of the reasons I watch your videos!

  • @markdonnelly1913
    @markdonnelly1913 ปีที่แล้ว

    When a machine is made of real quality, and then is properly maintained, it can offer great service for generations ... just like this beauty

  • @chrismitchell7801
    @chrismitchell7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Those shavings reminded me of when I was a kid. Me and my mate used to play in a concrete bay full of the stuff , great big spirals of swarf off massive lathes - bouncing up and down and wrapping it around ourselves. We didn't know what it was but didn't get cut much. One day the machine shop owner saw us rolling around in it and damn near shat himself! We didn't give a fuck. The kids back then in Hereford UK must have been as hard as nails!🤣

  • @mrushizha
    @mrushizha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The machines and tools this man has are just awesome. If this is not passion, I don't know what is.

  • @shadymaint1
    @shadymaint1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in high-school shop class I ran a shaper that was a little bigger than that one. It was ancient. Never got used. I wanted to use it, just because. Worked great for the project I was working on. Ended up taking second place in a state wide high school shop class competition. The kid that beat me built a fun size working grandfather clock out of brass and aluminum in a clear acrylic case. It was amazing. He deserved to win.

  • @ukvette
    @ukvette ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings back so many memories, of about 50 years ago,
    Shaper, Gear cutters, all that awesome equipment for apprentices 😂😂
    Globe Engineering, Cape Town, South Africa 🎉

  • @bones357
    @bones357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Until this absolute unit, the largest I've seen on YT is Jason's 36" Cincinnati. And the fact that you can just fire it up and make chips after all these years is gravy!!! I can't wait to see those resto colab vids with Matty, so awesome!!!😊👊

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just a pity that guys an absolute tool. He'll ban your username if you point out he's using a tool inefficiently

    • @praetorxian
      @praetorxian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@janeblogs324 Maybe just let him do his thing without armchair quarterbacking?

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@praetorxianwhen he makes "educational" videos telling people to do certain things when he doesn't understand/comprehend the science and if he starts claiming facts to suit his narrative and sell particular brands, then I will let others know there are alternative brands 5x cheaper as well as better techniques to use the tools.

    • @kiddiescripterkiller
      @kiddiescripterkiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@janeblogs324 Curious... And your evidence is? Not that I'm a fanboy, all his "inventions" are way over priced if you ask me.

    • @inkman996
      @inkman996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@janeblogs324 I can never watch his videos. Get tired of some one constantly plugging their own products and the constant jumping from scene to scene is aggravating. I love the simple here it is watch it or not video style like CEE's and some others. Oh and did I mention I am totally done watching ABOM, yes he used to be my favorite channel, now all he puts out is videos about all the free stuff he gets and 3 part videos on how to put holes in a square plate.

  • @jwharvey7167
    @jwharvey7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Back when I was an apprentice in '75 I spent almost a year just on shapers. Even with HSS I have found it very rare since then to find another machine that can move metal quickly as a well set up shaper. Powerful and with the right equipment can be quite accurate. We had 4 of them, the largest was the 36" Cincinnati. Total beast. I'm looking forward to this machine being restored and then making lots of chips.

  • @patrickwelsh286
    @patrickwelsh286 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Machining at it's most brute force. Love it.

  • @YoureNottheonlyonehere
    @YoureNottheonlyonehere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a lovely gesture to bring him some cold Water. So lovely best Channel

  • @ibTeeMac
    @ibTeeMac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In Canada I grew up using the banana scale then in 1970 we changed to metric. My mind works measuring in inches but I drive in Km's but its still a bottle of beer mate. What a machine that shaper is and can't wait to see it used as part of a job. Homeless looking pretty official in that sweet work shirt. Thnx for the video and cheers.

  • @alexfunke214
    @alexfunke214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    …..And the cinematography during the cutting test was superb!

  • @blaggercoyote
    @blaggercoyote 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your dog is great at opening boxes!

  • @dave_s_vids
    @dave_s_vids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that all of these old machines are still going strong today and being used in place of buying something new. Awesome!

  • @trevorhinchliffe2195
    @trevorhinchliffe2195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    When you’re taking deep cuts try turning the clapper box so it points into the cut ( clockwise in the cut you showed) then straighten the tool in the tool holder. This allows the too to lift up and away from the cut face so the tool doesn’t rub on the side face of the work

    • @lrcb40
      @lrcb40 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point!

  • @troop73oo
    @troop73oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am always impressed how a piece of steel can be shaved as though it were wood. Great video really enjoyed it thank you.

  • @user-il3nn1vl4w
    @user-il3nn1vl4w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had a smaller one in the early 70's in the apprentice training school. No idea of the make, we had to use it to cut slots into one of the test items. Most things were then being transferred over to the milling machines.
    We all hated the swarf off the millers because it would cut your fingers so easily. I still have most of the test items from that time.

  • @livingwellregardless7523
    @livingwellregardless7523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every video I watch from this guy my admiration grows. His ingenuity and problem solving skills are amazing.

  • @fredfarnackle5455
    @fredfarnackle5455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WOW, what a machine! I am extremely impressed. It reminds me of my apprenticeship when the only machines we had were clapped out WWII lathes, a pillar drill and a likewise worn shaper. What a beauty it is, can't wait to see it fully restored to its original glorious condition. Good one.👍 Karen excelled herself giggling in this vid. There are three things that come to mind: a) you have lots of space to play in, b) you have lots of machinery to play with and c) you know how to use it all to perfection.😎

  • @mickgrimes9078
    @mickgrimes9078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i grew up durring the time when everything was being digitized and automated. these old all mechanical machines are so fascinating to me, i just absolutely love them.

  • @michaeltarasenkoop2389
    @michaeltarasenkoop2389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have relatives in Australia and every time I hear Keith talk he reminded me of there accent mate ! My spelling is not that great excuse me fore it just want to say great show ! Watch it when ever I get a chance keep up the excellent work love the show! With your knowledge and skills !

  • @bayman49
    @bayman49 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always been so envious of people who can do most anything mechanically. You seem to be one of those guys. Your skills are very impressive.

  • @Charlee_and_Pipo
    @Charlee_and_Pipo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fantastic. You have taken me back in time 40 years from when I first used this machine.
    I was beginning to study professional training and at the age of 15, seeing that monster work in my hands was an optical illusion, I couldn't stop looking at how he worked. I wish I could be there with you restoring that beauty and leaving it as it was when it left the factory.
    Good luck with the project and may you enjoy it for many years.
    A hug to the channel.

  • @blackguitarmaker1925
    @blackguitarmaker1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love watching Curtis at his smartest and dumbest moments. 🤣 Lists off stats like he designed it himself and seeing him struggle to say it smoothly really makes for great entertainment. 👍 love the videos dude.

  • @donparker8246
    @donparker8246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a nice old machine. It was hogging off some big pieces of material. It just proves that these old machines were engineered to last for decades. I love your videos. Keep em coming. I love the dog too. He's awesome
    Cheers from Maine, USA.😁👍🇺🇸

  • @bobsnabby2298
    @bobsnabby2298 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much you can learn from these vids, never knew what shaper is and how it works. Thanks!
    Funny also how you mix together feet, inches, millimeters, tons, pounds, horses and bananas ☺

  • @justinnoble2497
    @justinnoble2497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Fireball has some real competition in the shaper department now. I absolutely loved this video and cannot wait to see the restoration process. I binge watched all of your vids while I was on quarantine and they were all incredible. And we all love homie! Keep it up!

  • @lqueryvg666
    @lqueryvg666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a beautiful machine!!! Can't wait for the final result...The chip hitting the camera was awesome!!!

  • @jerrywbrice
    @jerrywbrice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is superb. Antique machine tools are so interesting... to think of all the work done on old tools like these.. and the work done on the tools that machines like these were used to build. Generational.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to love running a shaper. Both conventional and vertical. There is just something so pleasing in the rhythm of the machine. I mostly used tooling with a generous nose radius and a lot of top rake on the horizontal machines.

  • @longlowdog
    @longlowdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That is one heck of a machine. This has been a brilliant video, informative and infused with so much of your characters. You guys rock. Friday mornings in Scotland have got a whole lot more fun since I found this channel.

  • @riversidewoodworks
    @riversidewoodworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad you said restoration. Cannot wait to see it! Big fan of Mattys workshop too!

  • @jamesdunlop8704
    @jamesdunlop8704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These machines are basic but VERY powerful. I used these as an apprentice. To be treated with a lot of respect. Keep up the great video's

  • @konstantinoutcast8400
    @konstantinoutcast8400 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm from Russia and I don't always understand everything. but I always enjoy watching. I, too, have spent my whole life with appliances in the garage and have seen many masters. I want to say that you are the best! Bravo!

  • @descent815
    @descent815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The engineering in these machines is just mind blowing. They just dont make machines like this anymore! GREAT VIDEO!

  • @fritzie1968
    @fritzie1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a perfect example of the phrase -- they just don't make things like they used to. Wow, what a monster of a machine! Love the content and vids...keep up the great work mate.

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have always loved shapers.
    Underrated for sure. Slow compared to a mill but as you say very versatile.
    What a great find. Second owner, unbelievable!
    Looking forward to seeing it tidied up and in use.

  • @keithhiggins1153
    @keithhiggins1153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember my first job on a shaper. Scared the shit out of me but we became friends and I became very proficient and accurate. Good to see the old tools are nt forgotten. Nice job

  • @bertenerny7867
    @bertenerny7867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This thing is insane. You really schooled me on this. Thanks for the class. I salute you for keeping something that is known for quality engineering and built-like-a-tank. Wishing you all get this machine restored to better than new. Howdy from Alabama USA. All the Best. Bert

  • @TheMadJoker87
    @TheMadJoker87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the first 4 minutes of the video felt like the escalation that happens when trying to remove a stubborn stuck bolt or nut, from "damn, this thing is tight" to "cant be frozen solid if its liquid" xD

  • @michael7324
    @michael7324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had a shaper in our old shop. I used it once in four years. Cool to see this monster in action.

  • @craigguinn5423
    @craigguinn5423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used a shaper at University in the 70’s. We cut castings for our drill press projects. Always liked that machine.

  • @mickschreiber1995
    @mickschreiber1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love shaping machines. The first machine I was allowed to use as a first year apprentice back in the 70's. They were still pretty common back then.

  • @Disinterested1
    @Disinterested1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    you guys really do work so well as a team :)
    great video as always
    best wishes :)

  • @revtmyers1
    @revtmyers1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love shapers. So relaxing to just sit back and listen to them cycle.

  • @jonduke2935
    @jonduke2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A hefty machine. I remember attending a Unit 14 auction in Sheffield, UK, in the late '80s or early '90s and there was a shaper there, maybe a TOS or a STANKO that was a true monster. I think it was a step up from this babe. Many years ago, when money was short, I bought a shaper but later traded it in for a Bridgeport mill. Can't say I ever looked back :-)

  • @Saki630
    @Saki630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That shaper is super cool! I hope you can get to setting this up and show us how to restore it and make it as precise you need it. It looks like it could cut right through a tank's armor plating.

  • @davidyates748
    @davidyates748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That thing is an absolute beast! There's something about the way they work which makes it seem like nothing could stop a shaper, though you were definitely giving it a workout with some of those heavier cuts! Looks like a great addition to your workshop, I bet you can't wait to use it properly!

  • @webgomer
    @webgomer ปีที่แล้ว

    Old machines like this I find fascinating. The level of precision maintained without the use of computers I think is astonishing. Glad to hear that it will be restored. There are just too many machines like this just rusting and rotting away in old junkyards. *Just because it doesn't have a digital readout or a color flat-screen doesn't make it junk! Thank you for saving her!!!*

  • @TheBrick2
    @TheBrick2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not often I can offer a tip but here is one.
    When trying to drag something like you were at the start wet the wood. Ideally lift up to get under the bearing rods / pallet whatever its on but that's just for the first move.
    I have used this to move many a heavy object up to about a ton purely by hand. The lowering in friction is a god send!

  • @utdesertghost199
    @utdesertghost199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a cool old machine. Love to see these old machines still in use. We have a WWII era lodge and Shipley T-Lathe with a 60" faceplate that we still use to make and repair some of our larger fluid seal molds at our SKF factory mold shop. 👍

  • @jaygee9249
    @jaygee9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know from a maintenance workshop point of view the beauty about a shaper is that it is easy to sharpen the tool unlike a milling machine. Also, there is nothing like a machine with balls

  • @bloodknottrevelian3396
    @bloodknottrevelian3396 ปีที่แล้ว

    This took me back to the very early sixties. We had a shaper in the metalwork shop at secondary school. Obviously a miniature compared to the beast that you have but we were allowed to use it in our early teens. The same with the lathe. Pre health & safety.
    Can’t wait to see the restoration videos and it working on a real job. 👍