If KG played in this era he would clear Giannis. Better shooter, better in the post, better footwork, more physical, and honestly far better defensively as well. In 07 he was DPOY, with top 3 in one of the most stacked MVP races of all time. Prime Kobe, Prime CP3, Prime LeBron, prime Dwight, Prime Tim Duncan, prime Dirk, Prime Melo. Giannis wouldn’t finish top 5 in that era. Jokic is better if I need to maximize my offense but if I need a complete package I’m choosing KG.
@@HardyTheHarlem what about the fact that Magic was a far superior passer and rebounder? And was the point guard, meaning the offense ran through him? Oh yeah, and he was a point guard that LITERALLY played center.🤷🏿 I'm not saying you are wrong though
@@edwardprather4840 when jokic aint on the court they are one of the worse teams in history. Yes Garnett would massively raise the defense of the team but, offensively? They would be bottom of the conference without Jokic's spacing, consistency, and vision.
KG was a classic “take what the defense gives you” type of player. He didn’t impose his will like the top players in his time. That’s why he was never in the best player in the game discussion like players like Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Duncan, Iverson… etc. Giannis and Jokic impose their will as well!!!
I do t know when people starting giving KG more credit than he got when he played-but I think it’s part of the capability argument where you take the things that a guy could hypothetically and periodically do and act like that’s who he just was. KG was phenomenal. But when he played, his comparison was never a Kobe, never Duncan. He was a cut below those guys, he was compared to Dirk. And now he’s as good as Jokic Giannis or Embiid??? I just think we really don’t appreciate the current crop of guys. The same way Steph wasn’t appreciated until he came back and won again now all of a sudden people realized 2016 Curry was better than any PG to ever played the game, these guys won’t be appreciated until the ends of their careers. Forget guys like Luka and Shai, those three are peaking at top 10 all time levels through and through, and KG just did not.
@ I feel like Tatum definitely has a worse reputation than a KG but like…should he?? Anthony Davis. That’s where he’s at. Any given night he CAN compete with those guys but there also gonna be more than a few nights where they’re just clearly better. To me AD and KG are in that same tier.
KG was 31 years old when he joined the Celtics. Jokic is 29 now. I'd say there's a chance the Celtics would 3-peat. Jokic has never been injured in his 10 years in the league. While KG missed the 2009 playoffs due to injury.
@@penkima4923 jokic is not that’s good the reason why they won in 2008 was because of Kg defense jokic can’t guard nobody Pau would have a field day with jokic guarding him lakers would three peat if jokic was on the Celtics
@@trillkevin7632 Jokic is that good. He has never played with an all-star in his career. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce made the all-star team in 2008. Give them and Rondo to Jokic, and he doesn't lose a game in the playoffs.
OX "Jokic would not take KG Wolves out the west".. Brother Jokic took Campazzo, Barton, JaMychal, Rivers to the damn playoffs without MPJ and JAMAL..not play-in like AD LBJ/Curry Green have been.. But playoffs! Jokic is the greatest offensive player of all time, put some damn respect on this dude.. 50% of Jokics playoff team was out of the LEAGUE in 1-2 years after that
Lemme know when Lebron loses to the wizards on a 16 losing streak like jokic did with mpj and Murray? Huh? Jokic just didn’t JUMP to defend a game winning layup 🤣🤣
Jokic won a ring where Jamal Murray played like prime Kobe, they beat THREE play-in teams and never faced a 50 win team... now all of a sudden hes a god. foh
You are acting like Joker did not average 30pt triple double for the entire playoffs, leading everyone in all three major stats.... Jamal played like THAT for one series with Lakers the rest he was very good, but no Kobe (except for Game 3 in Miami). And the seeding argument is lame, ask Bucks and Celtics on their opinion about playing a play-in team that year.
@@edwardprather4840 nope. KG could never score in the clutch. nor could he control a game the way jokic can. He was also never in best player in the world talks. not even close
@@386_ollo_sports I’m not 35 yet but I’m getting there lol. Either way I am bias towards the real hoopers that I grew up on. I HATE JOKIC AND TODAYS NBA PLAYERS 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
KG is one of the most underrated players ever and I can entertain an argument for him over Jokic but the Joker is on a legit GOAT level trajectory right now. He'll be top 5 when all is said and done if some tragedy doesn't befall him.
If KG played today, he would’ve extended his range. He already had handles, passing, post game, mid range, and top tier defense. Today, KG would avg 30/13/7/2/2.
nah. it's easier more said than do to extend your range. his altogether shooting % would go way down. his passing would not improve neither. he played with much better players than jokic and still had like 4-5 assists per game. jokic would destroy him
@@448DamonXX funny enough, he actually was making those terrible minnesota teams a top 5 offense when he was on the court while still making them serviceable defensively to down right good defensive. especially throughout 04-07
@@448DamonXX 1.) your point doesn’t stand because you’re just wrong; KG can elevate an offense at a high level too. & 2. i never compared the two, i just pointed out how i feel about KG peak. next time just read homie.
KG disappeared in plenty of games late down the stretch because he wasn’t comfortable with his back to the basket and settled for long jumpers. He was the PF version of Pippen, great player but better as a 2nd option.
This guys are nuts, first of all jokic is a offensive player better than KG was for de the defense, KG is a great defender but jokic is the best offensive big ever. And also offense is much more influential to the game than defense so even though im wrong in my first statemente jokic is still more influential overall
Ydk how good kg was on defense or offense… top 5 defender, elite offensive player w his midrange and playmaking, could handle the ball and pass… kg elite man don’t sleep on him rn
@@alecboulton3537For the last 5 years ,Joker generates 50+ pts for the Nuggets that is his average ,ppg + assists per game not to mention 13 rebs along that ...Garnet was beast on both ends but he is C+ on offense while Jokic is clear A along with couple of other guys in history of bb.. Just look up Shaq's numbers when he was MVP same as Joker except Jokic has almost 10 appg and that is huge
@@Sr.Princip Jokic is stat padding. The Nuggets organization is embarrassing. He's surrounded by players that have absolutely no on-ball impact while Jokic has no off-ball impact. A weird scenario indeed. Garnett a C+ on offense, yeah you're a child 😂
Defense but I would say I don’t think his offence is close to jokic. Jokic can score, pass, and set other people up to score. KG has a mid range jumper but idk if he had post moves like that though.
This shouldn't even be a discussion. KG is an overall more talented player than Jokic. People debating this Jokic over KG apparently don't understand how dominant KG was on the defensive end year-in and year-out while being a three level 20pt scorer. The slight advantage Jokic would have over KG on offense (and it would be slight), doesn't offset the alarming gap between the two defensively.
You also have to look at the level of competition at their positions. KG went against top 50 and top 75 players at his position. Joker can't say that. Besides, Joker is also surrounded by a better team vs peak KG.
I don’t think people understand how hard KG had to carry the Wolves for years on both sides of the ball. That’s why by the time the playoffs started he was always super fatigued. The one year he got decent help they went to the WCF and lost mainly due to the fact that their guards like Sam Cassell got injured and KG had to once again do more like he a point guard against the 04 Lakers. Putting KG in an era with better role players and better spacing you would see a more dominant player than we even saw in the 2000s
One thing firsure KG would have jumped against the game winner in Denver’s last lost AND wouldn’t have lost to the 16 losing streak wizards because he would actually get blocks and scare players in the paint
Bruh ppl forget these guys played in a different era. Kg was shooting threes basically. He would be able to have range plus play the defensive side like he did. Man!!! Kg easily top 5
There are a whole bunch of 20 year olds that maybe caught KG on the Nets and think they know what they’re talking about. It’s hilarious but yall got one thing right I HATE JOKIC 😂😂😂
I love watching kg but jokic aint no bum. It was harder to put jokic numbers back then. The game was WAY MORE PHYSICAL. Jokic would put up good numbers. U put prime kg in this league who has handles. He would have over 7 assists at least. Kg had one of best mid range games for a power forward ever. So his scoring numbers would skyrocket with his post moves.
It’s like one day they’ll say oh this player was unstoppable theirs nobody that had a better run then them next we’ll u can this player was better like what
It depends on how high you are on KGs offensive ability. Are you willing to take a guy that was 22-24 a game but had the ability to go off for more with above average playmaking for a big, who may struggle at times in the playoffs as the number one option but was one of the best defensive players to ever play the game vs the once in a lifetime, Magic Johnson, LeBron James, Steph Curry level offensive player who is ass on defence? For me, if it’s between them as the only star on the team I’m taking Jokic, but if I can pair one of them with another star gimme KG.
KG offeense is 7.9-8.1 n defence is a 9.8-10 while jokic O is 10 n defense is 2.. kg a better 2 way player but offensively Jokic clearrrsss , agree Marz ?
That draymond steph comment is disingenuous af.. draymond helps facilitate an offense that is predicated on ball movement but draymond is a bad scorer and his defense is good but overrated imo.. steph is a transcendent offense player with a skill no one has replicated..
KG is not better than Giannis or Jokic and I’m a KG fan 😂 The Giannis disrespect needs to stop too. The only thing KG had over Giannis is a little middy and Giannis is one of the top midrange shooters in the league this year based on percentage and volume.
kg would not able able to guard jokic. i mean at all. he couldn't guard duncan, imagine what jokic would do to him. and with his improved 3p%? oh, man, kg wouldn't know what to do. he never faced any big man that could shoot and pass like jokic.
Y’all Jokic fans he has no competition this no Big man era ..yall sleeping on KG ..Jokic has to guard too .. and these takes will come back and review Jokic not going to get another ring ! AD be killing Jokic on offense
I’m convinced that these dudes just watched highlights . KG was very limited on offense back then and very overrated on defense. 40 year old Jordan undressed prime KG. No offense to OX, but this is one of the reasons why he always lose on debates.
KG limited on offense? He was exceptionally well-rounded on offense. And, legit elite on defense. Don't say no offense to Ox. You're throwing dirt on KG.
Top 10 respectfully n the highest il go is maybe 7-8ish range maybe top 6 if it’s his MVP year (03/04) in todays game, luv u OG KG but u ain’t getting bigger then that ..
Isnt this supposed to be the best best era of all time? Hmmmm. Funny how so many top players from former eras are seen as better than the best guys today. Joker and Giannis are one of ones though. They can be all time great in any era.
OX really hates Jokic
he is like a certain person at 1938 olympics watching Jesse Owens changing the sport
@@AVAXII assuming hes like hltler over jokic is def something. You’re def a yt boy or a european snow goblin
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Proving the point with this comment
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 hi racist
@@daveyboonhowerand you’re proving his point
Ox hate for Jokic is too obvious and weird. Let go off the past my guy.
Of*
Naw I work hard at hating Jokic. I’m not gunna stop now
With all respect to KG i absolutely love KG but you can take any version of him he’s not better then Giannis or Jokic rn.
How
@@Suge8263jokic clears kg
What do you mean How?? Start watching basketball more that’s How
If KG played in this era he would clear Giannis. Better shooter, better in the post, better footwork, more physical, and honestly far better defensively as well. In 07 he was DPOY, with top 3 in one of the most stacked MVP races of all time. Prime Kobe, Prime CP3, Prime LeBron, prime Dwight, Prime Tim Duncan, prime Dirk, Prime Melo. Giannis wouldn’t finish top 5 in that era.
Jokic is better if I need to maximize my offense but if I need a complete package I’m choosing KG.
@@Udon_Noodlemore physical?
I still think you start your franchise with Joker over any version of KG
Jokic was the 41th pick in the 2nd round. If a team started building around him as a rookie, Jokic would be in the GoaT discussion right now.
No, ill gladly take 04 kg
@@battousaithekingslayer9913then respectfully, your ball knowledge ain’t all there
@@battousaithekingslayer9913still not better than Jokic 🤷🏾♂️
@@IsaiahHill-po5bo naw respectfully i value both sides of the floor for my big man. If you like slow lazy defenders then take jokic
Old heads whine about liking two way players but have magic in their top 5
Very vague my guy. This has no specific context
@ The context is magic isn’t two way but in ya top 5. Now answer to that
@@386_ollo_sportsyeah 😂 magic 8 for me and Kobe’s 7th because of the defensive gap
@@HardyTheHarlem that’s because you’re consistent
@@HardyTheHarlem what about the fact that Magic was a far superior passer and rebounder? And was the point guard, meaning the offense ran through him? Oh yeah, and he was a point guard that LITERALLY played center.🤷🏿 I'm not saying you are wrong though
Jokic living rent free in OX head
Yea cause I’m the one that brings him up every episode lol.
KG was that dude in '04 but come on guys...Jokic definitely clears.
You give all 4 kg the team Jokic has he wins the championship
@@edwardprather4840 No. Watch the video.
“Clears” is crazy man
@@bdsynchronicity88 clears at what exactly? Passing?
@@edwardprather4840 when jokic aint on the court they are one of the worse teams in history. Yes Garnett would massively raise the defense of the team but, offensively? They would be bottom of the conference without Jokic's spacing, consistency, and vision.
Peak KG aint nun to mess with,he was ridiculous
That mf led his team in ALL categories for an entire season in the mid 2000s..I don’t think ppl realize how insane that is
Even this comment a troll lol ..
@@josheasy6716 huh
preach
KG was a classic “take what the defense gives you” type of player. He didn’t impose his will like the top players in his time. That’s why he was never in the best player in the game discussion like players like Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Duncan, Iverson… etc. Giannis and Jokic impose their will as well!!!
Ox hate on joker is nasty work
It’s going to get nastier. Stick around buddy, I’m just warming up
I do t know when people starting giving KG more credit than he got when he played-but I think it’s part of the capability argument where you take the things that a guy could hypothetically and periodically do and act like that’s who he just was.
KG was phenomenal. But when he played, his comparison was never a Kobe, never Duncan. He was a cut below those guys, he was compared to Dirk. And now he’s as good as Jokic Giannis or Embiid??? I just think we really don’t appreciate the current crop of guys. The same way Steph wasn’t appreciated until he came back and won again now all of a sudden people realized 2016 Curry was better than any PG to ever played the game, these guys won’t be appreciated until the ends of their careers. Forget guys like Luka and Shai, those three are peaking at top 10 all time levels through and through, and KG just did not.
I reckon KG is like how Tatum is considered a cut below Jokic, Giannis etc
@ I feel like Tatum definitely has a worse reputation than a KG but like…should he?? Anthony Davis. That’s where he’s at. Any given night he CAN compete with those guys but there also gonna be more than a few nights where they’re just clearly better. To me AD and KG are in that same tier.
Come playoff time KG isn’t close to the player Jokic is. KG was too passive an offensive player
The same guy that got killed by durk every time they match up
Lil durk?
@@kjjr3270dirk nowitzki .....when tf was lil durk in the nba?? Kids these days are slow asf😂
And killed Dirk too… one guy played both sides the other didn’t, let’s be fr now
KG better than Dirk
Dirk would do unholy things to jokic coming off flex cuts
KG an 8.9 on offense qhen hes a skinny jumpshooting big? Lmao ox hate on joker is nasty work 🤢🤢🤮🤮
Ok well Jokic is a fat Postscoring stretch playmaking big. Nasty work
Put jokic on that celtics team , they 3 peat
cap
KG was 31 years old when he joined the Celtics. Jokic is 29 now. I'd say there's a chance the Celtics would 3-peat. Jokic has never been injured in his 10 years in the league. While KG missed the 2009 playoffs due to injury.
@@penkima4923 jokic is not that’s good the reason why they won in 2008 was because of Kg defense jokic can’t guard nobody Pau would have a field day with jokic guarding him lakers would three peat if jokic was on the Celtics
@@trillkevin7632 Jokic is that good. He has never played with an all-star in his career. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce made the all-star team in 2008. Give them and Rondo to Jokic, and he doesn't lose a game in the playoffs.
Cap they actually played defense in KG era
I'm not gonna do the back and forth but I'm telling yall prime kg was one of them ones frfr. Kg low key getting underrated
OX "Jokic would not take KG Wolves out the west".. Brother Jokic took Campazzo, Barton, JaMychal, Rivers to the damn playoffs without MPJ and JAMAL..not play-in like AD LBJ/Curry Green have been.. But playoffs! Jokic is the greatest offensive player of all time, put some damn respect on this dude.. 50% of Jokics playoff team was out of the LEAGUE in 1-2 years after that
You had me until you said greatest offensive player of all time. Glazing a little too much my friend.
@@marcelsansalone3829 name better
@@marcelsansalone3829 hes right GOAT offensive player
Jokic in year 20 wouldn’t make the play in lil bro. Lebron took a worst roster to the finals many times than jokic ever did
Lemme know when Lebron loses to the wizards on a 16 losing streak like jokic did with mpj and Murray? Huh? Jokic just didn’t JUMP to defend a game winning layup 🤣🤣
I hate to interrupt this yap session
jokic clears every version of KG the gap is like 2-4 galaxies
KG’s defense lessens the gap. But nevertheless, there’s still a gap
Fuckno
Crazy
@@Jayherbo23nah your just old
@@448DamonXX I’m 25 wym
This gotta be the most old head unc take ever 😂
Jokic won a ring where Jamal Murray played like prime Kobe, they beat THREE play-in teams and never faced a 50 win team...
now all of a sudden hes a god. foh
You are acting like Joker did not average 30pt triple double for the entire playoffs, leading everyone in all three major stats.... Jamal played like THAT for one series with Lakers the rest he was very good, but no Kobe (except for Game 3 in Miami). And the seeding argument is lame, ask Bucks and Celtics on their opinion about playing a play-in team that year.
Prime Kobe is hyperbolic
Bro KG is the most overated player in history. Hes nowhere near Jokic level.
U out your mind bro
It;s close because of defense, but i would give it to jokic slightly.
@@edwardprather4840 nope. KG could never score in the clutch. nor could he control a game the way jokic can. He was also never in best player in the world talks. not even close
@@deelak2329 all I'm going to say is look what a old Dwight Howard did to to joker kg will give joker nightmares and joker still got a check kg
@@Pswayze23 to say that he's the most overrated player you are out of your mind if you don't like kg just say that
OX and Ron’s clear bias towards the players in the early 2000’s is frustrating
The 35 year olds that grew up in the 2000s are the new old heads
@@386_ollo_sportsthey’re not “new old heads” they’ve been old heads
@@448DamonXX 😂
@@386_ollo_sports I’m not 35 yet but I’m getting there lol. Either way I am bias towards the real hoopers that I grew up on. I HATE JOKIC AND TODAYS NBA PLAYERS 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@ you already know I’m a big fan but you gotta be stopped 😂🤦🏾♂️
KG is one of the most underrated players ever and I can entertain an argument for him over Jokic but the Joker is on a legit GOAT level trajectory right now. He'll be top 5 when all is said and done if some tragedy doesn't befall him.
Last video I’ll watch from this channel
This isn't an airport, you don't have to make an announcement, just leave.
@@tonyochiha9798 Can't say I make an announcement that I'm leaving an airport, either.
I watch cause they are trying to hide it 😀
If KG played today, he would’ve extended his range. He already had handles, passing, post game, mid range, and top tier defense.
Today, KG would avg 30/13/7/2/2.
Still no Joker. More like AD...
nah. it's easier more said than do to extend your range.
his altogether shooting % would go way down.
his passing would not improve neither. he played with much better players than jokic and still had like 4-5 assists per game.
jokic would destroy him
prime KG is a top 5-7 peak for me. truly, idk anything 04 KG couldn’t do at least at a serviceable level
1: Make a team the best offense itl when he’s on the floor
@@448DamonXX funny enough, he actually was making those terrible minnesota teams a top 5 offense when he was on the court while still making them serviceable defensively to down right good defensive. especially throughout 04-07
@@denim5667 My point still stands.
@@denim5667 he is personally my favorite defender ever but he’s not even close to the impactful player jokic is
@@448DamonXX 1.) your point doesn’t stand because you’re just wrong; KG can elevate an offense at a high level too. &
2. i never compared the two, i just pointed out how i feel about KG peak.
next time just read homie.
“ hey guys can i come play with you 👋🏾 “ 😂
KG disappeared in plenty of games late down the stretch because he wasn’t comfortable with his back to the basket and settled for long jumpers. He was the PF version of Pippen, great player but better as a 2nd option.
21:57 Can say the same thing about Curry. Every chip he has, that team was a top 5 defense. People really underestimate team defense.
This guys are nuts, first of all jokic is a offensive player better than KG was for de the defense, KG is a great defender but jokic is the best offensive big ever.
And also offense is much more influential to the game than defense so even though im wrong in my first statemente jokic is still more influential overall
Ron changing the camera positions on swipa’s rant 😂😂
I have 100% come around to the Magic v Steph conversation. Just want to put that on record.
I can’t wait till these kids start debating Joker vs Bron goat debates. I’m here for it 😂 👏🏾
These new and young mfs are nasty. KG would definitely be a top 5 player today wtf
Offense a 20
Defense a 3
Vs
Offense a 8
Defense a 13
Ydk how good kg was on defense or offense… top 5 defender, elite offensive player w his midrange and playmaking, could handle the ball and pass… kg elite man don’t sleep on him rn
@@alecboulton3537For the last 5 years ,Joker generates 50+ pts for the Nuggets that is his average ,ppg + assists per game not to mention 13 rebs along that ...Garnet was beast on both ends but he is C+ on offense while Jokic is clear A along with couple of other guys in history of bb.. Just look up Shaq's numbers when he was MVP same as Joker except Jokic has almost 10 appg and that is huge
Is ur sruff outta 10 or 20 ?? I’m confused
@@josheasy6716 10
@@Sr.Princip Jokic is stat padding. The Nuggets organization is embarrassing. He's surrounded by players that have absolutely no on-ball impact while Jokic has no off-ball impact. A weird scenario indeed.
Garnett a C+ on offense, yeah you're a child 😂
What makes peak Kevin garnett better than peak Nikola jokic
I wanna know
Defense but I would say I don’t think his offence is close to jokic. Jokic can score, pass, and set other people up to score. KG has a mid range jumper but idk if he had post moves like that though.
@@terrencejoesph7010 you know if he had those post moves. he did not
wym he won mvp against some of the best players of all time
@@terrencejoesph7010 he had moves, he didn't have strength to score consistently.
This shouldn't even be a discussion. KG is an overall more talented player than Jokic. People debating this Jokic over KG apparently don't understand how dominant KG was on the defensive end year-in and year-out while being a three level 20pt scorer. The slight advantage Jokic would have over KG on offense (and it would be slight), doesn't offset the alarming gap between the two defensively.
You also have to look at the level of competition at their positions. KG went against top 50 and top 75 players at his position. Joker can't say that. Besides, Joker is also surrounded by a better team vs peak KG.
KG would just be AD today with more intensity...but i dont think he can clear Jokic
Big facts perfect comp
and worse offence
Didn't KG start super teams? He teamed up with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen
bro are we forrgetting jokic literally the best post player in the game that no one can guard him
KG is my favorite player ever so always enjoy seeing the props!
I don’t think people understand how hard KG had to carry the Wolves for years on both sides of the ball. That’s why by the time the playoffs started he was always super fatigued. The one year he got decent help they went to the WCF and lost mainly due to the fact that their guards like Sam Cassell got injured and KG had to once again do more like he a point guard against the 04 Lakers. Putting KG in an era with better role players and better spacing you would see a more dominant player than we even saw in the 2000s
Jokic has literally never played with an All-Star his whole career.
lol this whole conversation really showed me how hypocritical people be like when it comes to the Harden and Wade debates
Sometimes offensive brilliance outweighs defensive ability.
IF THAT THE CASE Wilt will be the goat period
We will look back in ten years on these conversations and cringe.
The racists will still hold on, but everyone else is gonna facepalm.
Hes not clearing joker on offense on D yes but offense tho KG was good.
Where ticket at
Aint no way we putting bron over jordan if offense and defense are equal?!
No hate to Jokic he is the best player imo rn but Prime KG was just a different breed.
One thing firsure KG would have jumped against the game winner in Denver’s last lost AND wouldn’t have lost to the 16 losing streak wizards because he would actually get blocks and scare players in the paint
KG in this era would be crazy
if they played in a playoff series who wins the matchup peak Jokic or peak KG???
The offense/defense argument is just not how it works...lol
Bruh ppl forget these guys played in a different era. Kg was shooting threes basically. He would be able to have range plus play the defensive side like he did. Man!!! Kg easily top 5
what is basically a three?what shot is that?
Breaking top-5 easily means you have him in the GoaT discussion. And it also means you're an Ox burner account.
@@AVAXIIkg was pulling deep mid range shots. I believe he could add the three like horford did. I’d take KG top 5 right now in his prime
@@Breakbread1334 Could have, should have, would have
@@AVAXII💯😭
There are a whole bunch of 20 year olds that maybe caught KG on the Nets and think they know what they’re talking about. It’s hilarious but yall got one thing right I HATE JOKIC 😂😂😂
None of them said Kobe who got 12 all D 91st team🤦🏽♂️
KG today would be a less athletic, more defensive Giannis with a better middy. And Jokic is currently better than that based on what is needed today.
No he would not he would be Anthony Davis
23:29 Ik nobody cares but steph and dray deadass are the two best and most important players of the warriors dynasty
Kg wouldve been turning his long 2's into 3's today. Wouldve averaged 25/12/6 on elite effiency along with 4-5 stocks
nah. it is still long way to go. look at chris paul. very good 2p shooter, terrible 3p shooter.
Nah. If you don't have Giannis over Jokic, you for damn sure can't put KG over him
ppl act like washed Dwight didn’t shut down prime Jokic in the bubble
I love watching kg but jokic aint no bum. It was harder to put jokic numbers back then. The game was WAY MORE PHYSICAL. Jokic would put up good numbers. U put prime kg in this league who has handles. He would have over 7 assists at least. Kg had one of best mid range games for a power forward ever. So his scoring numbers would skyrocket with his post moves.
Any time you ask ox if his logic against jokic is the same against Steph he gets to tap dancing around the question
Cause it’s not the same thing as I was trying to explain in the video. Steph got a big ass 🔫 that changes everything. Jokic don’t got one of those
@ so jokic post game isn’t something reliable he can go to in the clutch or whenever is needed?
@@TdwBsuCard24 There is not one single attribute of Jokic offense that is anywhere near as potent as Steph shooting the 3 ball.
KG no near to Jokic this is crazy as hell
ox dont hate jokic u guys dont get that ox is consistent, he likes complete players, offence and defence
Me too. Elite two way players will always be my preference.
mention one in todays game
That means more versatile not better
He hates Jokić
NAW I HATE JOKIC
Marz over there eating good💪🏾
KG has NEVER been better than Jokic
It’s like one day they’ll say oh this player was unstoppable theirs nobody that had a better run then them next we’ll u can this player was better like what
Wow you guys really hate Joker
It depends on how high you are on KGs offensive ability. Are you willing to take a guy that was 22-24 a game but had the ability to go off for more with above average playmaking for a big, who may struggle at times in the playoffs as the number one option but was one of the best defensive players to ever play the game vs the once in a lifetime, Magic Johnson, LeBron James, Steph Curry level offensive player who is ass on defence? For me, if it’s between them as the only star on the team I’m taking Jokic, but if I can pair one of them with another star gimme KG.
Got a like based on the slip of paper joke🤣
04 KG clearing Joker is a terrible take. What are yall smoking
KG offeense is 7.9-8.1 n defence is a 9.8-10 while jokic O is 10 n defense is 2.. kg a better 2 way player but offensively Jokic clearrrsss , agree Marz ?
I dont think he would be better than Jokic but he would be top 5 in this league
why is the guy in the purple talking? why u guys getting him to talk its crazy
Bro KG can’t produce what Giannis and Jokic doing😂 he’d be 3rd behind both of them
That draymond steph comment is disingenuous af.. draymond helps facilitate an offense that is predicated on ball movement but draymond is a bad scorer and his defense is good but overrated imo.. steph is a transcendent offense player with a skill no one has replicated..
"He is indeed w...better"
Am I crazy for thinking Devin Booker is better than Dwade?
Jokic,Giannis,Luka clearly better.4th at best,with all due respect
KG is not better than Giannis or Jokic and I’m a KG fan 😂 The Giannis disrespect needs to stop too. The only thing KG had over Giannis is a little middy and Giannis is one of the top midrange shooters in the league this year based on percentage and volume.
Hot take… KG today would be a more post oriented Gainnis Antetokoumpo with a more consistent middy
KG would probably be shooting threes.
@ who’s to say that the push to shoot more 3 would’ve had a positive effect on his game? Gainnis shoots a good dose of 3s
@@Sdotbdotghost Nobody said shooting threes is good or bad.
Yall Trippin
KG @ NO POINT OF HIS LIFE IS BETTER THAN
WHAT
JOKER IS TODAY
HE CLEARS HIM.
07’ KG better than Giannis?!?! FOH!
kg would not able able to guard jokic.
i mean at all.
he couldn't guard duncan, imagine what jokic would do to him.
and with his improved 3p%?
oh, man, kg wouldn't know what to do. he never faced any big man that could shoot and pass like jokic.
Y’all Jokic fans he has no competition this no Big man era ..yall sleeping on KG ..Jokic has to guard too .. and these takes will come back and review Jokic not going to get another ring ! AD be killing Jokic on offense
Ox is a jokic hater and a 90s-2000s glazer
🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@ nah 🤦🏾♂️ I’m still a big fan tho
Could KG have taken the 21 bucks to a chip? Nah.
All ik is Giannis and Joker won championships with the teams that drafted them they ain’t win with super team
I’m convinced that these dudes just watched highlights . KG was very limited on offense back then and very overrated on defense. 40 year old Jordan undressed prime KG. No offense to OX, but this is one of the reasons why he always lose on debates.
KG limited on offense? He was exceptionally well-rounded on offense. And, legit elite on defense. Don't say no offense to Ox. You're throwing dirt on KG.
Using Jordan in your counter argument is stupid because you can't name a player Wizards Jordan DIDN'T cook. 🤦🏾♂️
Its all stemming from jokic hate. People be doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to take away credit from that guy
11:48 chill just used players KG had for 1 year by the way
21:40 are we really gonna let this slide?
Top 10 respectfully n the highest il go is maybe 7-8ish range maybe top 6 if it’s his MVP year (03/04) in todays game, luv u OG KG but u ain’t getting bigger then that ..
"Ox hates Jokic" "Ox biased" nah Ox just stupid
Uh oh we got a mad one. 😊
@ oh I ain’t mad whoopie, you’re not intelligent enough to make me mad
Luka, Giannis, Jokic are better than KG. Maybe KD, Lebron and Curry also but they a bit old now.
Kg had to run and join paul pierce , jokic sweeps him
Isnt this supposed to be the best best era of all time? Hmmmm. Funny how so many top players from former eras are seen as better than the best guys today. Joker and Giannis are one of ones though. They can be all time great in any era.
This is far from the best era. Where you heard that?