I didn't expect much from this video as this tip isn't new to me. So what I'm talking about is much different. I'm talking about how you presented the video. You really seem to bring out a different side of working on your Honda and in a high quality format. Hope to see more than the ones uploaded. Because I was definitely entertained!
Thanks! I have a playlist of motorcycle vids but it's just my first year with the bike, hopefully I can make more repairs on my own and document them too! To be fair the bar is low for motorcycle maintenance vids, as i edited this I thought "at least it's in focus" =D th-cam.com/play/PLxW5bBHPfdBwgz30sfc7tvo6JlhReRXwH.html
As a new motorcycle owner I know that feeling of doing some maintenance for the first time then starting the bike with your fingers crossed. I just put a Dyna S ignition on my CB750, which is nice, no more dealing with points. Have you thought about getting one for the 200?
oh I was going to tell you I recently got one I 200 just like that and as with just about every Honda I've ever owned after a few thousand miles the intake valve gets really really tight to wear it barely lets it shut.. my Honda 70 used to get that way every so often. It's not broke it's just because the valves seat in and shut the clearance distance up, as far as what I was telling you about when you adjust the cam chain you want the camshaft to not be in any tension from the rocker arms in the valve train because that will tighten the chain and make it harder for a normally loose chain with no preload to tighten correctly, after you loosen the main nut on the Camshaft adjustment always turn that back in till it stops and just a hair bit more and then lock it down I didn't know exactly what you did but trying to help thanks I appreciate it I like seeing people do this.. about the one set of breaker points some of the 350 Honda the Pistons were together which used just one set of points most of your 350 Honda were that way but a lot of them were a 360 degree crankshaft which means one piston and down at one piston up and makes it rougher running engine but it gets more power that way so... that's why on some 350 + 360 Honda there will be two sets of points on a 2-cylinder engine your motorcycle actually fires the spark plug on the exhaust stroke and it doesn't hurt anything hints one set of points both cylinders do that I hope I'm making sense...lol
ive commented on your Hondatwins post, theres a few things you need to correct, sandpaper is bad for points it leaves particles inbedded in the that will cause arcing that will wear them out faster. thats why a points file is better
A contact burnishing tool is the only way to reliably recondition the points without damaging the contact plating. The tool is designed to be placed between the contacts and, with a little pressure to bring the contacts together, a few back-and-forth motions will do the job. It will flatten any pits and peaks and optimize the contact area. www.amazon.com/Jonard-OB-1-Burnisher-Insulated-Thickness/dp/B006C47JOI/ref=cm_wl_huc_item
The purist in me says no. But an Arduino EFI conversion on something like this would be so cool. Ton of work but its been done before! Your diversity of interests makes for great youtube. Keep going!
90° after TDC always means the cylinders are on their way down, being either in the intake or the expansion stroke. I dont understand what the manual means by "supposed to be in the compression stroke"... wich cylinder? They share one camshaft and they are on their way down. Does the crankshaft turn clockwise in this engine?
Great vid. Been riding and fixing bikes for nearly 40 years. Just bought one of these and Im like all thumbs with it. LOL. Home servicing is so much better as you know whats really been done. I do leave the really technical stuff to the professionals though. Enjoy ya ride.
Wow, I owned one of those from 1981 till 1985. Put about 60,000 miles on mine. Same color, same year. I went through everything on it during that time. Very nice Becky...
This is a cool bike. However, I see you have that awful cable operated disk on front. If you want to drive even remotely fast, I would really convert the front brakes to hydraulics. Any 1 piston brakes will do, you'll just have to machine a bracket depending on your choice. I did this on my CB125 T1, which has the same power as the CD200 ( 17bhp) but is a bit lighter and has less torque ( torque is maxed out at 10.500 but max power comes at 11.500)
Yeah the front brake sucks! I don't ride this bike very fast though. Already had it swapped for a new version of itself once as a stopgap. I like the stick look but not at the expense of my safety!
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Valve Adjustment is like... the thing that you MUST do. If it's too much open or too much closed you lost a lot on performace.
Sure everyone has mentioned some tips to your video, but since a vast majority of folks may even know less than do you, as many only watch others on U-tube or have someone else turn the wrenches (dealers/gear-head friends), at least your getting your tool-time in. The plug takes an 18 mm plug socket and is really required removal for most the repairs made. The valve chamber caps can tough to remove the first time, but rarely take much effort afterwards. Folks tighten stuff to much, hardly ever bothering to buy a torque wrench. Pay careful attention to the exhaust valves when adjusting the tolerances as they can get kinda tight in clearence. Its important, since you can burn a valve, or worse yet bent them, which requires engine removal, and doing the head work after replacing the damaged pieces. A little loose, is way better than to tight. Great looking machine. Glad your making an effort to care for it. Not A lot of CB-200's out there, since folks just rode the p*** out of them, and bought bigger later, thinking the 200's were more or less disposable. Humanity is ill. Best wishes!
I keep a box of disposable vinyl gloves in the garage, that way your hands stay cleaner. And they can be removed before touching something you dont want filthy. A bottle of goop hand cleaner and an old bath towel also work great for quickly cleaning hands up.
The camshaft turns the points at half of the RPM not full RPM if it's running at 10000 the points or the camshaft will be running at 5000.. or if it's running at 2000 RPM on the crankshaft the camshaft will be running at 1000 it's pretty simple
No, haven't joined any forums, I have rebuilt a few CBs over the years, so I'm pretty good at it. Currently I have a CB750K, and this CB200T. I'll let you in on a discovery I made about this CB200T and the cable operated front caliper......The internal mechanism is nearly impossible to find, but what you CAN find once in a while is a 1970's early 80's Honda Odyssey ATV brake assembly which is the same part! I discovered this after pouring through parts manuals for old Hondas. The second part of this tip is that you can't search for Honda Odyssey brakes because the damn minivan shares that name.....Search for Honda FL250 parts....FL250 is the model number of the Odyssey ATV.
Sounds like you should join the forums just to give others advice! Thanks for the tip! I've had that brake replaced once already but it's dwindling stock for sure!
Becky!! I have the same bike and it’s currently not running! It would be so cool if you went over everything on the bike and stuff. Mine is currently wired to not have a battery so I don’t have a push start, the kick is a little worn, but I finally got spark after a year and a half of trial and error. (I took it to salt city builds haha) but I’m excited to learn.
Always remember don't fix it if it isn't broke but I hear you you're doing a how to video great for beginners I worked on these engines for 50 years all types all kinds I love it I just recently got a 200 never had it 200 always had 175 160s and 150 even had a 125 one time they were all fast for what they were
I have a gold 75 CB200T, good to see people taking care of these little gems. Can you tell me what mufflers you're running on that? I still have the stock ones on mine and mine is much quieter than yours.
I don't know the exact ones since they did it at the shop for me, but they are reverse cone shorties like these: 4into1.com/emgo-universal-reverse-cone-shorty-muffler-chrome/
When you get to the bikes that are twin cylinder with 360-degree crankshaft with one piston up and one piston down you will need two sets of points not on these bikes
When adjusting a cam chain on those you want the chain not to be under preload from the camshaft there is no differing opinions it's right or wrong the Pistons need to be at top firing there is a mark on the stator but you do not want a rocker arm trying to spend the cam while the engine is sitting still you will not get a proper cam chain adjustment the valve need to be shut no matter where the Pistons are
wait and see ... in a year's time Becky will be able to take this bike apart and assemble it back together with no sweat at all (ok maybe a little sweat but you can't fight biology :P ).
Awesome video. I have a CB200 in my shop I have been meaning to finish up for the last year or so. Its always neat to see someone do a few things on video before I dive in. Keep it up!
Well i got the electrical gremlins out of it. Had sat for quite a few years in a garage. Ended up being a bad set of points and condenser. Look up " Firing up the CB200"
Nice work! Where did you find the right replacement breaker point assembly? I'd like to grab a spare for when mine craps out, but couldn't easily find a replacement online.
Well I did get one from Wemoto. But I have see quite a few on ebay. I just wanted it to run before I strip it down and rebuild it. Keep an eye on my TH-cam channel
Hahaha reading your comments sequentially, I'm glad you approve overall! I'm just a newbie at bikes. Currently my 200 is in need of some professional help, you know any good mechanics in the NYC area?
I didn't expect much from this video as this tip isn't new to me. So what I'm talking about is much different. I'm talking about how you presented the video. You really seem to bring out a different side of working on your Honda and in a high quality format. Hope to see more than the ones uploaded. Because I was definitely entertained!
Thanks! I have a playlist of motorcycle vids but it's just my first year with the bike, hopefully I can make more repairs on my own and document them too! To be fair the bar is low for motorcycle maintenance vids, as i edited this I thought "at least it's in focus" =D th-cam.com/play/PLxW5bBHPfdBwgz30sfc7tvo6JlhReRXwH.html
As a new motorcycle owner I know that feeling of doing some maintenance for the first time then starting the bike with your fingers crossed. I just put a Dyna S ignition on my CB750, which is nice, no more dealing with points. Have you thought about getting one for the 200?
oh I was going to tell you I recently got one I 200 just like that and as with just about every Honda I've ever owned after a few thousand miles the intake valve gets really really tight to wear it barely lets it shut.. my Honda 70 used to get that way every so often. It's not broke it's just because the valves seat in and shut the clearance distance up, as far as what I was telling you about when you adjust the cam chain you want the camshaft to not be in any tension from the rocker arms in the valve train because that will tighten the chain and make it harder for a normally loose chain with no preload to tighten correctly, after you loosen the main nut on the Camshaft adjustment always turn that back in till it stops and just a hair bit more and then lock it down I didn't know exactly what you did but trying to help thanks I appreciate it I like seeing people do this.. about the one set of breaker points some of the 350 Honda the Pistons were together which used just one set of points
most of your 350 Honda were that way but a lot of them were a 360 degree crankshaft which means one piston and down at one piston up and makes it rougher running engine but it gets more power that way so... that's why on some 350 + 360 Honda there will be two sets of points on a 2-cylinder engine your motorcycle actually fires the spark plug on the exhaust stroke and it doesn't hurt anything hints one set of points both cylinders do that I hope I'm making sense...lol
ive commented on your Hondatwins post, theres a few things you need to correct, sandpaper is bad for points it leaves particles inbedded in the that will cause arcing that will wear them out faster.
thats why a points file is better
Awesome, thanks for your feedback!!
A contact burnishing tool is the only way to reliably recondition the points without damaging the contact plating. The tool is designed to be placed between the contacts and, with a little pressure to bring the contacts together, a few back-and-forth motions will do the job. It will flatten any pits and peaks and optimize the contact area. www.amazon.com/Jonard-OB-1-Burnisher-Insulated-Thickness/dp/B006C47JOI/ref=cm_wl_huc_item
The purist in me says no. But an Arduino EFI conversion on something like this would be so cool. Ton of work but its been done before! Your diversity of interests makes for great youtube. Keep going!
MashaAllah,
Very food method explained in the video, which is very useful to adjustment the my CD 175 accordingly.
Thanks
90° after TDC always means the cylinders are on their way down, being either in the intake or the expansion stroke. I dont understand what the manual means by "supposed to be in the compression stroke"... wich cylinder? They share one camshaft and they are on their way down. Does the crankshaft turn clockwise in this engine?
Great vid. Been riding and fixing bikes for nearly 40 years. Just bought one of these and Im like all thumbs with it. LOL. Home servicing is so much better as you know whats really been done. I do leave the really technical stuff to the professionals though. Enjoy ya ride.
Nice! I'm sure you'll quickly ramp up and be able to give me some pointers! =D Would love to see your bike.
Not much to look at now. But it'll get there
nice bike, I also have a cb200
Stay with Sandpaper and WD-40 on the bike. If your bike stops on the rain, you can sand the contacts and use WD-40 and you are gud to go.
Wow, I owned one of those from 1981 till 1985. Put about 60,000 miles on mine. Same color, same year. I went through everything on it during that time. Very nice Becky...
MetalTeamster I got one to just ordered a new carb for it. Great get a round bike.
hey! my bikes carbs seem to be out of sync, i love the videos you make, if you ever need to adjust your carbs, i’d love to watch a video on it!
Twin or quad carbs are just like
Having more than one wife or girl f
Once u treat them right
They will perform well
This is a cool bike. However, I see you have that awful cable operated disk on front. If you want to drive even remotely fast, I would really convert the front brakes to hydraulics. Any 1 piston brakes will do, you'll just have to machine a bracket depending on your choice. I did this on my CB125 T1, which has the same power as the CD200 ( 17bhp) but is a bit lighter and has less torque ( torque is maxed out at 10.500 but max power comes at 11.500)
Yeah the front brake sucks! I don't ride this bike very fast though. Already had it swapped for a new version of itself once as a stopgap. I like the stick look but not at the expense of my safety!
Valve Adjustment is like... the thing that you MUST do. If it's too much open or too much closed you lost a lot on performace.
Noted. Waiting to get those new tappets in the mail before risking breaking mine... Thanks!!
Sure everyone has mentioned some tips to your video, but since a vast majority of folks may even know less than do you, as many only watch others on U-tube or have someone else turn the wrenches (dealers/gear-head friends), at least your getting your tool-time in. The plug takes an 18 mm plug socket and is really required removal for most the repairs made. The valve chamber caps can tough to remove the first time, but rarely take much effort afterwards. Folks tighten stuff to much, hardly ever bothering to buy a torque wrench. Pay careful attention to the exhaust valves when adjusting the tolerances as they can get kinda tight in clearence. Its important, since you can burn a valve, or worse yet bent them, which requires engine removal, and doing the head work after replacing the damaged pieces. A little loose, is way better than to tight. Great looking machine. Glad your making an effort to care for it. Not A lot of CB-200's out there, since folks just rode the p*** out of them, and bought bigger later, thinking the 200's were more or less disposable. Humanity is ill. Best wishes!
I keep a box of disposable vinyl gloves in the garage, that way your hands stay cleaner. And they can be removed before touching something you dont want filthy. A bottle of goop hand cleaner and an old bath towel also work great for quickly cleaning hands up.
The camshaft turns the points at half of the RPM not full RPM if it's running at 10000 the points or the camshaft will be running at 5000.. or if it's running at 2000 RPM on the crankshaft the camshaft will be running at 1000 it's pretty simple
Good, fun video.
Where you get that hand book ???
Jake's ct90 restore garage
That was gr8 (female) level
REPLACE THE POINTS!
Funny, I just bought that exact same model, and color bike last week! Working on getting it roadworthy again....
So awesome! would love to hear about your progress! have you joined the hondatwins forums yet? Really nice folks there...
No, haven't joined any forums, I have rebuilt a few CBs over the years, so I'm pretty good at it. Currently I have a CB750K, and this CB200T. I'll let you in on a discovery I made about this CB200T and the cable operated front caliper......The internal mechanism is nearly impossible to find, but what you CAN find once in a while is a 1970's early 80's Honda Odyssey ATV brake assembly which is the same part! I discovered this after pouring through parts manuals for old Hondas. The second part of this tip is that you can't search for Honda Odyssey brakes because the damn minivan shares that name.....Search for Honda FL250 parts....FL250 is the model number of the Odyssey ATV.
Sounds like you should join the forums just to give others advice! Thanks for the tip! I've had that brake replaced once already but it's dwindling stock for sure!
Becky!! I have the same bike and it’s currently not running! It would be so cool if you went over everything on the bike and stuff. Mine is currently wired to not have a battery so I don’t have a push start, the kick is a little worn, but I finally got spark after a year and a half of trial and error. (I took it to salt city builds haha) but I’m excited to learn.
Always remember don't fix it if it isn't broke but I hear you you're doing a how to video great for beginners I worked on these engines for 50 years all types all kinds I love it I just recently got a 200 never had it 200 always had 175 160s and 150 even had a 125 one time they were all fast for what they were
Always run the Camshaft adjustment bolt back in all the way if you don't you defeated the purpose
Becky : at 7.13, re-write as 1000 a minute. the camshaft rotates at half crankshaft speed.
I have a gold 75 CB200T, good to see people taking care of these little gems. Can you tell me what mufflers you're running on that? I still have the stock ones on mine and mine is much quieter than yours.
I don't know the exact ones since they did it at the shop for me, but they are reverse cone shorties like these: 4into1.com/emgo-universal-reverse-cone-shorty-muffler-chrome/
and they're LOUD but I'd like to think they're not obnoxious. I've only set off a handful of car alarms. =D
Becky Stern yeah, I pulled my stator cover and had at least a quart of oil came out. I'll remember the drain pan next time lol.
Subscribed, I’ve been trying to sort out points on many vehicles for years this is the only time I’ve ever understood it 😂😂😂
When you get to the bikes that are twin cylinder with 360-degree crankshaft with one piston up and one piston down you will need two sets of points not on these bikes
The spark plugs do not have to come out the engine turns freely even under compression don't listen to everything people tell you LOL
When adjusting a cam chain on those you want the chain not to be under preload from the camshaft there is no differing opinions it's right or wrong the Pistons need to be at top firing there is a mark on the stator but you do not want a rocker arm trying to spend the cam while the engine is sitting still you will not get a proper cam chain adjustment the valve need to be shut no matter where the Pistons are
All those engines the Pistons are together it's called a 180-degree crankshaft
wait and see ... in a year's time Becky will be able to take this bike apart and assemble it back together with no sweat at all (ok maybe a little sweat but you can't fight biology :P ).
Haha thanks for your confidence, I'm enjoying the learning journey!
the reason that only has one set of points is because the Pistons are together and it fires on the exhaust stroke from the other one is firing
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Super cool Becky! It’s Joe from Parsons, I recently bought a silver ‘75 CB200T:D great vids🤘
Hi! Nice choice! Mine needs some work outside my skill level, it's currently in storage. What's the current state of yours?
She very observant she's learning the lingo. Go girl
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In your area...
Had a 73 CB200- in orange.
So awesome!
Awesome video. I have a CB200 in my shop I have been meaning to finish up for the last year or so. Its always neat to see someone do a few things on video before I dive in. Keep it up!
That's awesome! Love meeting other folks with the same bike.
wearable motorist, lol
The ignition use platina😅
nice bike beck
Well i got the electrical gremlins out of it. Had sat for quite a few years in a garage. Ended up being a bad set of points and condenser. Look up " Firing up the CB200"
Nice work! Where did you find the right replacement breaker point assembly? I'd like to grab a spare for when mine craps out, but couldn't easily find a replacement online.
Well I did get one from Wemoto. But I have see quite a few on ebay. I just wanted it to run before I strip it down and rebuild it. Keep an eye on my TH-cam channel
good to see another cb200t out there! youre doing an awesome job. we all have to learn by the seat of our pants, and youre killing it.
Thaaanks! Would love to see your bike!
***** it's the same as your handsome bike, only a yellow tank. Awesome bike. Been restoring it all summer.
Matthew Cressman Cool! Any hot tips from what you've learned so far? #bikebuddies
Good job.
Hahaha reading your comments sequentially, I'm glad you approve overall! I'm just a newbie at bikes. Currently my 200 is in need of some professional help, you know any good mechanics in the NYC area?