Deadpool & Wolverine Will Revive MCU According To Review
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- The TJCS crew discuss IGN’s review of the 35 minute footage they were permitted to see of Deadpool & Wolverine.
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I’m a simple man. I just need both DC and Marvel to make a comeback.
Same but DC gives me a headache.
I like how you think
Especially Marvel
Or DC to come for the first time
You and me both!!!
This really is the most encouraging thing to hear as a fan, because it sounds like this isn’t just gonna be another funny Deadpool movie that *happens* to be in the MCU, it sounds like a big part of what this movie is gonna be talking about is the less than stellar quality of the MCU post Endgame, which is actually really great because as a fourth wall breaking franchise when we hear them openly address the decline in quality or the solutions to fix it it’s essentially like hearing Kevin Feige and the people at Marvel say to us “We hear you, we realize that our post Endgame era hasn’t been nearly as good as what the MCU used to be and we wanna fix it” After this there’ll be no more of that speculation about how “Marvel is never gonna listen to fan criticism” After this we’ll officially know that they are listening, and so I love hearing this because it makes me believe that this is gonna be far more than a funny Deadpool movie, it’s gonna be a legitimate acknowledgment and correction for the MCU’s quality
MCU's not going to truly be back until they string several good movies together, and have a new cast of characters that people actually give a damn about wanting to see.
Tbh i been enjoying marvel apart from a few projects stuff like Xmen 97, Loki, Shang chi, What If but not so much the second season. Guardians 3 and Werewolf are also solid to me at least lol
Here is the problem. Ryan Reynolds is a uniquely gifted storyteller, especially when it comes to Deadpool. I also think that Hugh Jackman has a 24 year internal notebook on what fans have come up and said to him regarding what they want to see out of Wolverine. This is a magical collaboration with Shawn Levy, where three friends get together and make a movie, two of which are iconic 'could never be played by someone else' characters. I don't think you can replicate this moving forward, unless Ryan and Hugh are made larger parts of the MCU as a whole.
Reviews will be available on the 22nd of July. Its been reported on different sites already this week.
MCU went down on a pattern. Reignition could only come in a pattern. One movie is an exception.
This movie will end up being a love letter to pre-MCU Marvel
Facts!
I’m just reiterating what others have said. Deadpool and Wolverine is a different beast, a movie that’s connected to the MCU yet primarily focuses on legacy characters from a different Marvel universe. Will that create genuine interest in Cap 4 which is true MCU? That’s highly questionable, especially considering the behind the scenes issues with that movie.
This movie is going to succeed is because it is Deadpool and Wolverine...in spite of it being an MCU movie not because it is an MCU movie. And any good will it builds towards the MCU is going to be lost by the Agatha show and the new Capt America movie
@@mor4652 and what makes you think that Agatha and Captain America 4 will be terrible?
@@johnconstantine973-p2m Diversity. LOL!
I didn't say they'd be terrible. But 'Falcon & the Winter Soldier's will be 4 years old by the time Cap4 comes out, and it wasn't a big hit at the time. So, I think it's going to be like the Marvels where banking on a Disney+ show to translate to an existong movie franchise isn't going to work out.
I think Agatha is going to have a similar problem being a spinoff to a 3yr old series that was tied to a disappointing Dr. Strange Movie.
And overall, MCU quality (writing/effects) has just been mediocre since End Game. So I think those projects are more likely to be mediocre than great.
If they happen to knock it out of the park tho and give marvel 3 "hits" in a row, that'd be awesome. I just wouldn't bank on it.
Deadpool & Wolverine Will Revive MCU.....I don't think so. Deadpool & Wolverine Will be its own thing. The MCU needs a total overhaul.
Don’t think so
“Deadpool and Wolverine will be its own thing”
……. 🤣 umm sir it is the MCU no matter how hard you try to cope
I’ll never understand how having the biggest movie of the year translates to that franchise needing a revival 😵💫
It’s so sad seeing a human regurgitate algorithm brain rot🤮
I’m sure this movie will be great and exciting but it’s riding off what fox did with their movies now being in the MCU. The MCU’s biggest movie since Endgame had to have Tobey and Andrew in it. This movie will be awesome but it’s what the MCU decides to do after this.
"That was almost an emotional review."
Man, she hit the nail on the head. It wasn't a scathing completely critical review. It wasn't trying to take apart the movie or deduct the science and the semantics of the story and explained in layman's terms - exactly what we are all wondering about.
I’ve seen every MCU film and tv show since day 1
X-men 97 gave me hope, what a great series.
I think Deadpool and Wolverine is going to be great but I feel the true test of reviving the MCU in public opinion will be Captain America Brave New World and Thunderbolts next year.
Agreed but also isn’t thunderbolts also supposed to be “R”. If that’s true that gives me some hope
Someone has been living underneath a rock for the past 4 years
@@NFLZone420 rating of a film doesn't change things. At least for me.
@@GefilteFish.Fair enough. To me it at least shows that they have more room to use violence. So that’s what I hope to see good action scenes
Agree. Next year could make or break the comic movie universe.
Im going to read the article for full context, but its weird to me to think the writer didn't like anything since Endgame considering how emotional GotG3 was, and what a spectacle No Way Home was.
Lol the glazing in that review is crazy
With all the promised surprises, what if they give us the MCU throppel and give us Spidey as an Easter egg? Logan & Deadpool have a history with spidey. Or Bruce Banner harassing him about not being able to appear as Hulk because it's not an Avengers film?
The general audience doesn't care about the MCU state. Deadpool and the XMen were never MCU characters. So, maybe the comic book nerds will see this movie as a saviour of the MCU. But the general audience will see it as a funny comedy action movie
You're right, but those specific comic book nerds are very loud... I am a comic book nerd myself but I'm nowhere near as vocal as I think that level of fever online can be somewhat childish when not constructive criticism.
If this is successful in what IGN states, then it'll hopefully quieten those people who won't stop bitchin about the MCU. I've not found the past few phases to be nowhere near as bad as the "internet" has stated (except for Quantumania and Secret Invasion being pretty awful). Its hard to be online when you're positive or just neutral about things.... Feels like you have to scream negatives all the time but that's just not emotionally sustainable.
I'm excited for D and W regardless of its larger MCU impact, but it would also be nice if it does bring things together.
Really don't think it'd just take one movie to revive MCU. D&W are the special teams, you can't just count on the perfromance of the special teams to keep a winning record. Marvel needs to find their new MVP QB and WR to be a contender again.
This is what happens when they make movies the audience actually wants.
All I know is if the movie is even half as good as the god tier marketing campaign for it, then it won't disappoint in terms of entertainment lol.
Damn, it feels good to be pumped to go see an MCU movie again!
I am ready. Ryan and Hugh will not disappoint. It’s about the quality of the projects after this.
If only Lucasfilm could be as self-aware that they have never actually made anything good under Disney.
It's always fun to remember all the times that the MCU has been called "dead" or "dying".
I've lost count. 😀
Honestly feels very overdramatic to me. Infinity War and Endgame were peak and now everything is build up, hell after Avengers 1 people have been saying the same thing.
Let's hope this works.
So far, I don't think I'm over-hyped, though I'm generally optimistic. It would be great to see a movie that really exceeds my expectations again.
Well with the news that Professor X is in it that’s one surprise revealed
We all knew Deadpool and Wolverine would be something cause of the hype. It just comes down to how it lands with the audience. But let's be honest everyone who has truly kept a pulse on the MCU knows this is not the litmus test. It's Captain American Brave New World, It's Agatha All Along, It's Daredevil Born Again, It's Thunderbolts*. Cause if those don't excite this hype piece is nothing more than just that - a hype piece.
@@brianvillanueva8848 The thing with projects like Captain America 4, Agatha & Ironheart is that they’re still byproducts of Chapek era, the era where they were trying to push stuff out as fast as possible. The true test are really projects like Thunderbolts, Fantastic 4, Daredevil, Armor Wars, Wonder Man
@@johnconstantine973-p2m
When considering how much content Marvel Entertainment announced to provide output for D+, before it even launched this whole facade of Chapek forced them to make more content is asinine.
It kept in line with Kevin Feige had a plan and it backfired on him.
So to me the blame rests on Feige in his hubris not Chapek. Cause if there was a thing that Feige relented to create to satisfy the "mandate" it would have been only Werewolf by Night.
It's the same level of secrecy marvel is trying Todo since no way home Spidey
"It feels so right to be here with you and now looking in your eyes, I feel in my heaaart, the start of something new"
"The start of something new"
"The start of something neeeeew" 😂😅
I have my tickets. I'm trying to not get too pumped for it.
Deadpool and Wolverine are pretty much the only characters I and prob most others still care about. So of course it is going to do well. But kickstart the MCU again? Only if they bring back some OG characters. And make movies with them.
Seems Marvel is back on track, I only hope DC is as well. Hope the post production on Superman is top notch.
Superman's new suit looks terrible
DC died after snyder
Parris made a great point with the underwhelming statement, not that I think there is a chance that will happen lol but still
I hope that this is true because this is going to make everything look so awesome again
With advancements in Ai technology, Hugh Jackman and Robert Downey Jr., if they choose to return, can transcend age concerns; applications like Leonardo AI is already able to do that in post-production. They can digitally recreate their youthful appearances flawlessly, avoiding issues like those faced in "The Irishman," ensuring both visual and physical authenticity for any roles they undertake consumers will not be able to tell the difference in fact it's already happening.
Could it do that for deceased actors?
I am sorry John but i cannot stand those overwhelming positive reviews that are hyping the movies like it's a game changer event or the second coming of Christ! That Also makes me skeptical because usually the film Ends up being just ok to good! It's just a gimmick and clickbate!
Havent been this excited for a marvel film since Endgame. Cant wait for the 24th
Guardians 3 dropped last year and is top ten marvel film
That’s not saying much
I'm not sure continuous laughter and applaud is what Im looking for. Each Deadpool movie has had quiet moments and emotional moments void of the comedy. I don't want wall to wall comedy as that would potentially mean the story lacks substance. Sean Levy's movies have always been heartfelt. I expect no difference here, but people stating it this way I wouldn't think is a good thing if it were not for knowing Levy.
The IGN comments are promising but I tend to take their reviews with a pinch of salt as I've often not agreed with their view on subjects.
I'm really excited to go to the cinema at the end of the month. I think taking a break from MCU stuff so far has been a welcome break, even though I personally have liked most of the phases up to this point (minus Quantumania and Secret Invasion).
this is only the first 30/35 minutes.
There could still be so many great super hero or comic movies if the producers had more balls. I hope this will be one of the better ones.
I’ll always enjoy superhero’s so regardless I can’t wait for Deadpool👍
For me this movie has been on my waiting list since last year when the official behind the scenes photos that Ryan Reynolds posted of him and Hugh in the suits I felt the most immense joy I've had since Endgame. Sure No Way Home I was also hyped for but this movie overtakes it. That honestly whatever happens, I still have hope. Because also Ryan, Hugh, and Shawn know what us fans want because they are also fans of the genre
As far as i know, this Deadpool and Wolverine is an independent movie, a recap to all the Fox movies, and a finale. Like the Endgame was for Ironman and Captain America. I dont see Hugh Jackman continuing and likely the last movie for DP also. It will not revive MCU unless DP shows up in every MCU movie like Ironman did. Disney will bait and switch all the cast. We will be right where we were in 2019.
I compare it to like a constellation of stars all lining up in a particular way and that it just doesn't happen all that often. I got that from Infinity War, Endgame, and now I'm getting it from this. Everything else is just A tier on their best day, these moments need to be meticulously cultivated.
@@JamesEvans2023 MCU needed Tom Holland's Spiderman to play the role that Ironman did. Spiderman is the best character to lead the Young Avengers. He had great chemistry with Dr Strange, Falcoln, and Bucky. F4 is joining MCU, so spiderman couldve gotten the symbiote from F4 like in the OG comics. The possibilities are endless.
Deadpool will definitely return in secret wars or even earlier, he mentioned something about secret wars in a clip. Not sure about wolverine but I'm sure he could return as well
… Living in my own world
Didn't understand
That anything can happen
… When you take a chance
… I never believed in What I couldn't see
… I never opened my heart (Oh)
… To all the possibilities
… I know that something has changed
Never felt this way and right here tonight
This could be the start of something new
… It feels so right to be here with you (oh)
And now looking in your eyes
I feel in my heart (feel in my heart)
The start of something new
… Now who'd have ever thought that
We'd both be here tonight
And the world looks so much brighter
With you by my side
I know that something has changed
Never felt this way
I know it for real
This could be the start of something new
It feels so right to be here with you (oh)
And now looking in your eyes
I feel in my heart
The start of something new
I never knew that it could happen till it happened to me
I didn't know it before
But now it's easy to see
It's the start of something new
It feels so right to be here with you
And now looking in your eyes I feel in my heart
That it's the start of something new
It feels so right to be here with you
And now looking in your eyes I feel in my heart
The start of something new (The start of something new)
The start of something new
So Deadpool is going to show up in every Marvel movie like Stan Lee?
"This could be the start of something new"😂🎉😅
I wished they'd didn't show the first 30 mins of the movie, Ive been spoiled at least 5 times on YT already 🤦🏾♂️
the only thing that has me worried about this movie is the runtime its too short lol if it was 3 hours id be like yea here we go , i pray for a directors cut cause man how is alot not gonna get cut outta this movie , either way #LFG
i think that DP&W will be great, but I think critics vastly under estimate how checked out of the MCU the general population is. It just doesn’t hit like it used to.
DC and WD must take note from this movie and the podcast, if marvel going down on a cliff, then DC and WB is a already sunk like Titanic to the bottom of ocean
who knew it would be deadpool, not black adam, that would actually change the hierarchy of power lol
I rather DC than Marvel to be honest. Nothing fun about Marvel it's just boring.
To hell with the Rock, Ryan renolds can crack wise
@@jasonsmith530 Plus, Ryan Reynolds has genuine love for the *character* of Deadpool, which I don’t think Dwayne Johnson had for Black Adam.
The next movie or show could be a wet blanket on that fire tho
I remember the hype for flash was high. Look how that turned out
Hope the movie is good but....just because it's good doesn't mean the rest of the mcu films lined up are going to be good.
There’s been a couple things floating around about Deadpool and Wolverine fixing the MCU, and I’m cool with that, but somebody had mentioned that it will be a stepping off point for the X-Men coming into the MCU, but I feel the heavily R rating the film has cut out 65% of an audience. I have a 13-year-old, and I told him that he’s not allowed to watch the Deadpool movies and he’s older, and now people saying it’s gonna tie both marvel and the X-Men together as a springboard film into the future, I feel it’s a mistake. I’m not saying the movie will be bad, I just don’t think a hard R rated film is the best one to go with, unless they create a PG-13 rated cut like they did with Deadpool too. I know the Deadpool movies are supposed to be full of bad language and tons of violence and gore, and I love that about the movies, I just think that releasing Deadpool and wolverine to kickoff hopefully a new and great MCU in a way a way that excludes a big chunk of the fan base.
Its important kids can enjoy the MCU, but lets be fair... Its 15 years old at this point. I think the people complaining about the MCU being a mess are not small children. Its the people that have grown 15 years during those movies that need that lift. X-Men 97 for example was a big MCU boost for most people I know, but they're all in their 30s.
That's not to rule out the importance of bringing kids in, but I think this movie, for boosting opinion of the MCU, is really aimed at a different demographic on purpose.
Krasinski is most likely in Deadpool considering they just made IF together.
I'm way more positive about Marvel than other people but I'm glad it's getting people excited.
Me too
not until they still make Hulk a joke.
Do we know the run time yet?
We gotta stop acting like all these Disney franchises need to be “revived”.
Seems like they keep dying and coming back and dying and coming back every few months, to the point that those terms now have no meaning.
Your fear is mine, John. I am so excited but so afraid my excitement is going to be for nothing. I am approaching this film with timidity and trepidation. But I am so hopeful.
Even if this movie is the best one they've made so far it wont help them if after this one they keep pumping up shit movies again
I’ve never even seen the first Deadpool and I’ve only seen the first X-Men movie.
LETS GO
If Marvel can have a really big cultural moment with this one, I have a new hope that Star Wars will be pressured to reset and go back to the fundamentals as well.
Not really. Is going to be a fluke just like Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. What's coming after Deadpool? Agatha All Along. Then Captain America: Brave New World which they reshot a third time. There's no way that movie is going to make its money back.
The embargo’s are on the 22nd
I watched No Way Home a few weeks ago and man, that movie has not aged well it’s got a lot of problems. I can confidently say the only very good-great MCU movie we’ve got since Endgame is Guardians 3
That's just the first act bob ... gotta come betta than that!
I'm going to see this movie for 2 reasons listed in the title, other than that, Marvel is still garbage, whether this movie is a success or not, the next movie may make some money because of this one, the true test will be the 2nd movie after D&W
It's R, that's a big part of the draw, I'm so tried of the jokey MCU, and the wimpy hulk, those both have to change. Jokey R is fine.
Talk about Long Legs.
🤔 I don't know based on those words...I at least interpret it as, the movie is just making fun of the declining quality of the MCU...
After Deadpool and Wolverine we'll be gett Agatha all along and brave new world
I won't believe it until I see it
Damn that was a good read. 😂
But does anyone listens to IGN?
Exactly!
John reads it, does that count?
I'm simple as well......everyone loves wolverine!!!
Wow this might be the funeral of the mcu are we not realizing that. This movie is so important
Or it could be the thing that brings everyone back. What's your point?
But now what after Deadpool? @@spicymemes7458
In the words of LOONEY TUNES….. Don’t you believe it‼️
Just like we didn’t give the MCU credit for GoTG3 but instead gave it to Gunn, it’s the same thing here. This is a Ryan Reynolds production and will get the credit. Next year is the true test for the MCU.
GotG 3, DPAW are all made the same way every other Marvel film is made. Only people with agendas would try to make a distinction.
@@johncampea ohh I’m not saying they’ll be made differently studio wise I’m just talking perception. Marvel was already on a down slope box office wise, but when GoTG came out we all showed up because we had faith in Gunn, not marvel. Just like in this we are showing up for Deadpool&Wolverine, not marvel.
@@Pluto24I showed up for the guardians, not for some director. Like it or not these are marvel characters so yeah. Plus I’m showing up to this film to see not just Deadpool and wolverine but all marvel characters in this film
@@AstronautMarsSun you are not who I’m talking about, you may have gone for that but a difference of 400-500mil in box office would say otherwise when you compare it to the movies it’s sandwiched between(Antman & TheMarvels)
@@Pluto24 Okay and that’s not what I was stating, from your statement it seems that your saying that all marvels fans only saw Guardians 3 because of James Gunn. When that’s clearly not the case, anyone could go see a movie for a variety of reasons. I don’t go to movies just because of the director 🤷♂️ I want to see hero’s
I'm 100% stoked and on board for this movie but I have some hesitation about the MCU going forward. We're talking very specific stars aligning into a very specific constellation to blast Earth with cinema cosmic rays. The issue is that once that's over, everything else is going to feel like a step down. That's almost how it felt with Infinity War and Endgame it's like we got that prime time constellation magic effect and everything else can't really compete. Hopefully I'm 100% wrong and they continue to make magic happen but I just think this is a particularly special kind of movie magic we're about to see.
it would be funny that all praised on the 30 mins or so footage but the ending will not please them.
you're still wrong about premiere dates lmao get it right
I love how the fanboys are deciding the MCU is cool again .
Some of us never left. Just saying.
Some of us still went out to AntMan and showed up for Secret Invasion as faithful as ever 💪🏾
Hooray I hope this will save many nerds from suicide
But it's spoof movie that laughs at the audience.
What?
Don’t doubt marvel
So the whole superhero fatigue thing has never made sense to me. I absolutely love comic book movies, tv shows.. I'm a comic book reader. Some issues I love, some I don't. No different in live action. But like John has always said, it isn't "superhero" fatigue, it's mediocre movie fatigue. Look at all the hype around this movie. If we just didn't care anymore and were truly fatigued, would there be this much hype??
Also, the X-Men... I personally have always felt the X-Men were the absolutely best comic book team. Better than the Avengers, better than the Justice League.
Look Superman might be better than the X-Men. Batman may be better than the X-Men. I'll give you that. They may be better. But as a team, the X-Men are just THE team.
If done right, I think the X-Men could easily take over as top place in live action. Wolverine being one of Marvel's most popular characters and prominent X-Men member, this makes perfect sense to have this be the starting point for the X-Men in the MCU. There have been hints with Ms. Marvel and some cameo stuff with Dr. Strange MoM, but this, with its TVA connection, really make the best starting point.
I'm stoked. Less than 2 weeks!! LFG!!!!
Marvel is my favorite company purely because of the X-Men. If it weren't for the mutants, I would prefer DC. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if the X-Men were completely separated from the rest of Marvel. They're ridiculously OP as well!
That's because superhero fatigue is not a real thing. If that were the case, gotg vol 3 would have bombed coming off the heels of antman 3
I have to wait a few days to catch it on a day off and I'm going to desperately try to NOT read/watch/listen to anything about it once it opens. Cause you know there's going to be a handful of ass hats out there intent on ruining it for everyone because they hate themselves and life in general.
Can't wait!
This movie‘s got nothing on madame Webb
The only way marvel makes a come back is if all future movies are done by Ryan , Shaun and huge as producers as no other director or producer in marvel has the heart for comic accurate characters like those 3 do.don’t expect captain America to be 1% of the film deadpool vs wolverine will be as the actors,directors and producers have no heart in the other films marvel are doing.
It would be a lot easier if Disney just stops trying to "Disne-fy" everything, we would be back on track.
Of course it will be a success, the sect needs success.
Isn’t this just a one off movie? It’s not even part of the MCU. I don’t think it changes anything for the future Blade is taking too long Bucky not being in the new captain America here’s to hope
Have you not seen the trailers or interviews? Ryan himself has said this movie is a part of the MCU.
Deadpool and the Fox universe is officially part of the MCU.
Sam being the new cap works in a modern sense since he's a modern day soldier and not from that 40's time period. Also it's not good optics for an american symbol to be a former brainwashed hydra assassin.
Its a bridge film. Them leaving the Fox universe behind and going into the MCU. We will see both universes in this movie.
Have you been living under a rock? Bro do you not see the official MCU marvel studios banner above the title? Its MCU canon brodie
Nah it won't revive the MCU. If everything following it still falls flat, that initial excitement after watching D&W will quickly die down. I don't think they can do their teaser or cliffhanger tactic to hook us in anymore like it used to. After Endgame those haven't led to anything worthwhile. I hope D&W is great. And that's all i'm looking forward to. In terms of re-igniting the comic book industry, hmm let's see. There's the danger that just means we get a lot of copy cat movies.
I think it could help, if we then get some of these strands they've been working on (way too slowly) coming together.
The Thunderbolts movie will help bring back some of the characters people love. Spider-Man is clearly incoming again at some point. The X-Men being more prominent will be a big draw. And approaching both Junior Avengers and the actual Avenger movies could do it too.
Really they need to bring back some of the staples they were leaning on in the last phase, namely Shang Chi and Wong. I thought they were going places with those guys but they just disappeared.
I tried watching the first deadpool and lost interest half way through.
I never got into the x-men films
I have pretty much given up on the MCU as it's just got too convoluted and the tv shows have diluted the quality down a lot.
HOWEVER.....I feel the.urge to watch this film and am genuinely excited to see it....I have no expectations going in so as long as I'm entertained, I'll be happy
It will be stand-alone.
The MCU cannot be revived, it's too far gone.
@@DooodOfLifeexactly
@@DooodOfLifeIt won't fix past mistakes.
@@DooodOfLife I gave them 10 years. Aside from a few sleeper hits the quality has been on a steady decline.
Everyone has their limit. I've accepted that I'm not their target audience and just moved on to other things like everyone else.
You must be fun at parties.
@@monicadelgado5296 don’t be silly he probably doesn’t get invited to any
One good movie will not compensate for the last several dumpster fire's 😅
I do NOT trust IGN, but I do trust Ryan Reynolds and Kevin Feige