Quickfire Hot Hatch Buying Guide: GR Yaris, Civic Type R, AMG A45 S, Fiesta ST, Golf GTI | Top Gear
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- The last 12 months have seen some cracking new additions and a few mid-life alterations to the hot hatch game. The already brilliant Civic Type R had an update with some special lightweight editions, VW released the 8th iteration of their benchmark for the sector - the Golf GTI - and then Toyota came along and blindsided everyone with the Toyota GR Yaris homologation special...
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£25k is more than enough for a hatchback, stretch to £30k for a kitted out one maybe. £50k is ridiculous.
lol
true - the A45 is apparently more - hand built engine and all that. But i agree with you, it shouldn't be called a hot hatch anymore.
@@sugarsaint They tried to call them super hatches
50k? *laughs in Megane RS Trophy Nürburgring Edition*
@@Jay.D.Smithy Call them Hyper Hatches at this point lmao
@s l I’ve got the Mk8 Fiesta ST3 and at the time of buying mine, it was great value for money (2018). Now the list price has hiked up by nearly £5k in 2 years and the only thing that has changed is where the sport button is placed. I think that’s partly down to the competitors having such high price points that Ford thinks the car is now worth that much.
Who else was waiting for Chris Harris?
Yes i am
@Konzy hahaha
I am bitterly disappointed.
I read Yaris as Harris and clicked immediately. Disappointing.
Why do you have to be that one guy ? Get a life!
“When you buy a Honda you end up... with a Honda.”
Jeremy Clarkson
Nothing wrong with that
That's a good thing.
@@rdmz135 no
quoting Clarkson from 2006
stupid
Go in to any ordinary UK garage an ask the mechanic for a reliable car and he'll say anything Japanese!!!!!! A friend of mine bought a 2015 520D tourer twin power with 75000miles on it a year ago. He went in just before Christmas with 83000on the clock, for a EGR Valve recall, a service, 3 tyres, 2 rear suspension airbags, some driveshaft/rear hub work and after a£1000 discount it came to £6000. Then just a week ago the turbo went so it will be another £3-4000 bill from bmw. If this is an advert not to buy a beamer then nothing is!!!!!! I've owned Honda's for a while now and its about £220 odd for a service every year and thats about it with exception a few tyres and brake pads etc
We’re dying for some Chris Harris drives... can we please get some?
We want Chris Harris
I like Chris Harris too but you guys need to chill...... under every video there are hundreds of comments saying that you would basically suck him off...... and that everyone else stinks....
Wait no Chris Harris 🙁
Chris? I dislike his presentation.... Bonus not having him on....
@@gmcjetpilot Hey each to their own 👍🏼
jpNewpic88.men
I can't be the only one who likes how the Honda looks... One of the few manufacturers who went to town with their styling and desgined something outside the eco-box aesthetic
They simply must extend the Yaris' production run, it's transformed Toyota's image overnight. The Hyundai is coming up hard on the rail though...
I'd get the Hyundai. The Yaris is probably more fun but as a daily you want more than just fun. Yaris is a fine weekend car but as a daily it is rubbish.
@@CyAn-S As a second car great but yes not a practical car, but I doubt that will bother a lot of buyers.
@@CyAn-S Yup, the Yaris is for people who would rather have a rally homologation hatch than a roadster like the Miata. The Hyundai is for people who can't have a weekend car OR want to have fun while doing their errands. I'd take the light blue one.
@@CyAn-S only issue with the GR as a daily is tyre roar, but a bit of dynamat and some foam on the arch areas of the interior below the carpet should solve that without adding too much weight.
The average mpg drops shockingly quick if you give it the beans too many times, but on a run using the adaptive cruise, it really ain’t bad!
Originally Toyota said 25,000 but it was announced a bit ago that if there was the demand they would make more - you now have to wait till 2023 so that answers the demand question Mr Toyota (lm sure that’s not his name 😂)
Where is chris
Chris? I dislike his presentation.... Bonus not having him on....
I don’t mind this guy, but Chris does this way better
Who is this guy this guy is so BORING 😣😑😑😑😑😑😴😴😴😴😴😴
This guy is so boring! Chirs is great! But I miss the old top gear
Yea Christ would have done this in half the time..
This guy's fine but shouldn't be doing this segment.
*Its both hilarious and impressive how the Yaris out of all things is now taking the hot hatch world by storm.*
Toyota deserved it, they made such a good car
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Those gr yaris are gonna be future collectors items. Fiesta punches way above it's belt here! 💪
Bro I watched the whole thing thinking it would be a drag race at the end, well that’s 5 minutes wasted
Read the title next time.
same like me😅
Same lol, I don't read xD
Why wasn't the Focus ST involved instead of the Fiesta. Different rival...
Exactly what i was wondering, yaris is in the same class as the fiesta and they both dont belong here
That's because Focus ST is underwhelming, it's a bit more fun than the Golf but it's nowhere near as fun as the Fiesta
@@Random.Contents. should of replaced the golf with a focus st !
Where is rs3
@@sherin7444 rs3 competes with the golf R that’s probably why
The only man in the world that should be doing the quick fire guide is Chris Harris!!!!!
Jack did it better imo
🤣 Get off his D. Its embarrassing
I know this guy is so BORING
@@SVW1976 Not as embarrassing as 6 subscribers and 122 views after over 10 years
🖕😂🖕
I30N Facelift for sure. The new DCT is just crazy. 0-100 4,8. And 100-200 in 13,3 Stock 🤯
An Rs megane should be there too
And the Focus ST
and Peugeot 308 GTI
@@Kodreanu23 I don’t think Peugeot sell it anymore.
They left all the shit cars out
It's still the fasted fwd around Nürburgring.
Who else came here to see the Toyota GR Yaris ?
Me
I did...
These hot hatches are keeping driving fun alive for the working man . Enjoy these times while you can. BTW for me it is all about the Type R!
A45 S is a hyper hatch not a hot hatch, in that line up it should have been the A35.......it sits a tier above with the RS3 etc imo
the GR-Four Yaris (as it's known here) is what I'm waiting for. why? because there's now a 2 year (possibly longer) waiting list to get one.
I took one for a test drive (there's a queue for that too), and it's every bit as good as they say it is. hats off, Toyota.
Theres 13 of them for sale on carsales. Starting at 50k
I doubt many cars are worth waiting over 2 years for. Especially one with a three cylinder engine - there will be be plenty more like it to come.
Not knocking the Yaris, I’m sure it’s great, but for that kind of money you could have your pick of quite a few very nice alternatives in the meantime.
I just came from a test drive on snowy roads. It's a great car to drive. So much fun. Well done toyota
@@throwyourbike Yeah like the Golf GTI and Audi S3 to fall asleep in. People want the GR Yaris because it offers something that the GTI and S3 does not - an exciting car to drive..
@@leonk5793 There loads of fantastic cars which are exciting and available to buy right now for less than £30k.
Megane RS? Clio RS? Civic Type-R? M3? M4? C63? Mustang? Focus RS?
Like I said, I’m sure the Yaris is great but there’s no need to wait 2 years to drive an exciting car.
They brought out the A45s but not the RS3?
And they should have gotten golf R insted of golf gti
@@MrLassip MK8 Golf R isn't on sale yet
The new rs3 is still not out
jpNewpic88.men
@@MrLassip The gti is the more entertaining one on paved roads. The R is just too darned heavy.
Great ho-hach guide, thank you 👍
GR YARIS, Thank you.
Yes let's recommend the car that is, yes is the most fun, but also with drawbacks that make it feel overpriced. Especially if you wan t a true hot hatch, which should also be a good daily imo. Remember we are not talking about track day cars, we are talking about HOT HATCHES, which should be the ideal daily drivers for enthusiasts:
- Noisy as heck and poor refinement. A Hot hatch should be both a nice sporty car and a nice comfortable cruiser.
- Not important for daily driving but it has the worst exhaust sound (literally sounds just like a stock 3 cyl Polo or Fiesta with 100 hp), even the Golf GTI sounds more exciting.
- Poor fit and finish (see Carwow's review of the regular Yaris, just the interior part, it is rubbish). It doesn't even reflect the price tag of the regular Yaris, let alone this one.
- Subpar cabin technology. E.G. Infotainment is laughable at this stage (2020-2021) and price point. GR Yaris also removes the digital gauges. I know enthusiasts tend to like analogue things, I guess. But at this price point I expect more than a cabin that looks and "feels" like one from 2005.
- Interior design is in my opinion the worst out of all these bu quite some margin, even far behind the Fiesta, which I dislike as well. It is a mess. To me, a hot hatch should look good inside and out. This just doesn't.
- Terrible practicality, especially compared to these others, even the Fiesta is almost like an Octavia compared to a Yaris.
This "Yaris" is good for a group of people that just want a fast and sporty car..... but NOTHING else. But for that I just think it is way too expensive. Especially where I live, where it starts from 54.195,- euro. Great buy......... for a rich person who can afford a second "weekend" car like this.
@@CyAn-S dude it's a fun toy that will go up in value.
If you want practicality then get the Civic.
@@CyAn-S when electric cars are mainstream it’s going to kill the value of petrol cars. You literally won’t be able to give them away
It’s also rather FUGLY
for me, it's the i30N first, then the Yaris. If you budget is tighter, the Fiesta is awesome as well. Honda is not my Taste, Golf's screens + surroundings suck, S3 is stunning but too expensive and AMG is even reaching into C63 territory with it's price.
I wish the Yaris made it to the states... That things rad 🔥🔥🔥
You guys in the US will get the Corolla GR and even before that the freshly released GR 86; sister of the BRZ 2.
@@micsub but it won't be nothing like the GR Yaris. Bigger, bulkier, heavier, and probably fwd. Not even close to the GR Yaris small hot hatch look.
Yaris GR, Civic Type R, Fiesta ST any of those 3 you can’t go wrong all sublime
I agree - the S3 doesn't even look good so I don't know why he talks about image. In this category of cars it should have been an AMG A35. Even so there were better cars than the A45. I would have included the BMW M135 and Renault Megane RS as well..
@@leonk5793 which cars were better than the a45 ? the only ones might be m2 and rs3 that's it otherwise you re just deluded and clueless.
It’s actually “GR Yaris” mate.
It doesn't matter if you switch it around.
Mat did this error then corrected it the next seconds😂
@@MuhammadAli-ff6il nah it does dude, its written in the GR YARIS
@@ismaild9949 same thing.
@@MuhammadAli-ff6il Okay Ali Muhammad.
Finally Hatchbacks! The delights that rule the city & offroads both!
I would normally choose the Civic TypeR without thinking about it, especially the slightly toned down Sport Line version I like very much. But damn that Merc is nice! And the Yaris GR is also amazing, a 3cyl putting out that performance is simply amazing, 4WD and I like the looks of it.
the Merc is probably the least desirable car on this list. It's for people that are about badges and power only. It's performance is bonkers, but driving dynamics and grin factor is better with the other cars on this list. The Fiesta and the Yaris for me please ;)
bro, then what about mini GP
Aren't they sold out?
mini is whack
It's BMW.
For some reason mini always left out on these things....😒
For the price of a Megane RS Trophy R?
Where are the comparison: lap times, braking distances, drag race???
Don't understand why this guy gets hate tbh. He's not the best but still.
Exactly
Agree, If you have watched Chris Harris talk about his early days in Top Gear after the trio moved on, you realise how much a throw away statement can affect someone. Simple rule, if you wouldn't say to someone if they were in-front of you, don't say it.
more in-depth review on the new i30n with dct pls
Why no i30N on the title?
Exactly, I almost skipped the video because of it :D
I'm a big type r fan had all types , but that yaris is amazing.
I recently got an 130n dct and it's amazing to drive
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Childish.
@@martijnkosters9024 Well... I am just selective, I have a right to not watch what I don't like
@@Calabino i did close the video tbh.
true, i only watch these due to Chris Harris, i didn't even bother going past five seconds with this one
GR Yaris All. Day. Long...
- TOMMI MAKKINEN APPROVED
- Rally special homologation
- Manual transmission
- Manual handbrake
- AWD
- Drift mode
- Inexpensive
- Great looking
- Toyota bulletproof reliability
- Future classic
- Limited production
The point of a hot hatch is that it's a jack of all trades. I don't see me fiting a couple of my +1,90cm friends in it. I think it is an awsome vehicle and a great weekend car, but I wouldn't compare it with the others
@@juanordonezgalban2278 good shout.
As much as I desire a GR Yaris, I'd probably now go for the toned down Sportline version of the Type R. The over the top looks and cabin noise have been somewhat remedied so you end up with a comfy spacious practical family car that can handle the supermarket/school run or a track day equally well.
A proper hot hatch then...
Limited production is actually a bad thing our country will never get one😭😭😭😢😢
Or just buy a Mistubishi Evo 6 TME!
The way people talk is like Toyota have created something unique,yet all they have just copied what Mitsubishi were doing in the 90"s
Watching this video has made me love my m140 even more
Which car is quicker senna, gt2rs mr or gt black series on tracks?
Amazing video. Everyone asking where Chris but no one saying "We appreciate you Jack."
Smh
Keep up the good work tho. You are an amazing presenter!
Love from SA 🇿🇦.
Hey, im from SA as well. I think Jack can also be a great presenter on the show.
50 grands to spare..
Yeah.. Of course... I'm not a poor guy struggling to even afford a dacia
Hmmmm
BAD NEWS!!!!
Not our fault didn't ask
@@twinturboturkey6321 I asked actually.
Why not go back to making your shitty 400 view videos that only yout mum watches 😂
@@twinturboturkey6321 Chillax homie Turkey doesn't even have cars, only chariots
I have the honda and its bloody brilliant
Drag race with those could be great.
Pretty broad competition. Love the GR Yaris and if I was single, would be my choice. But since I'm a married-with-kids immature manchild, Civic Type R thank you very much.
You want to drive your family in a car without AC and a stereo? If you didn’t pay attention, Honda didn’t include it in the car to save weight.
@@DengMam True, I'd get the standard Type R.
@@RRSmurf hate that the GR Yaris isn't coming to the States.
Yaris has quit a few drawbacks, especially at the price. It is a fun side track toy or weekend toy. But it is not a serious daily driver. It is too expensive and not as all-purpose as a hot hatch should be imo.
@@DengMam in the limited edition, yeah, but in the standard Type R too? I hadn't heard that before. My main hesitation is that I have to learn manual first, but that's a US problem I'll overcome when I get there
Who else thought they were gonna race them? 😂😅
Everyone 👦🏻👍🏻⭐🌟✨💥🏎
@@ChasingDifferentAdventures 😂😂😂
The only hot hatches under $35k we get in the states are the GTI - $30k, and the Veloster N - $34k. The Type R is $40k + over here. I'm so glad I bought my 2019 Fiesta ST for less than $20k when I did.
make sure you get the circuit pack on your Yaris GR btw. What a monster...
Why bringing an a45s into a hot hatch race and racing it against a golf gti, when there is a golf R which is faster than a gti (even tho the R wont have a chance against the amg)
Forget the gti, they brought the fiesta st vs the a45 that is less than the half of the price of the mercedes even there are the focus St and the RS, they’ve been told, just put all the hot hatch cars against it doesn’matter if one is the double of car than another
Uhm Because it's not a race ?
Nice
I think i'll take the the golf 8 GTI and put a tune on it with some hardware plenty fast enough, other options i would consider maybe i30N or yaris GR.
You included the A45s over the A35, so why did you use the S3 instead of the RS3????
GR yaris Toyota best hatchback
The a45 is 🔥❤️👍
They are also awesome rally cars
I'd go with GR Yaris, best hot hatch of 2020/21 (so far)
I’m so happy that everyone now loves Chris.. CHOC was the best thing on TH-cam til Top Gear poached him 😂
it really was mate
That Yaris looks like a good time
Toyota is a fun side-toy for a rich person. It is not a good daily. Especially at that price. Yaris is a track toy, not a hot hatch imo.
The hype for the Yaris is next level.
I want all of em
why amg 45 s but just a S3 and not RS3??
there is no rs3 yet
Why GTI and not golf R?
Because this was a shit vid..lol
@@zachbrooks20 new GOlf R is not available for review yet probably.
Type r & gr yaris 😍🔥
wanted to see a mini jcw gp3 as well!!
Abarth 595, 180hp and an exhaust note to die for. Thanks 😊
Nah its a fiat
All sound no action😆 do sound nice though.
GTI - yes. The besr allround car with nice dynamic :)
wv already callin back some vehicule due to the shity break pedal and infotainement bug
Which is better for everyday and fun and comfort and price?
nice mini, cupra and megan rs u've got there
And the Fiesta is a supermini, not a hot hatch
The Yaris is the only interesting car here. A breath of fresh air in what has been a dull market for a while.
The i30N and the Type-R are also pretty cool
@@feixas6961 The type R is plain amazing. If you stay on paved roads, doubly so dry ones, you get just as much return from spending resources the way Honda did, by triply going over and honing every detail, as by fitting an awd system. In honestly, the GTI is pretty amazing as well. Just for a slightly more rounded mission. Probably the closest car currently available, to the vaunted 3 series cars from the 90s, now that the Bimmers themselves have gotten too big. And the ST is just plain fun. For all surface, everywhere hooning, the Yaris has it all over the rest, though. It's as light and nimble as the lightest FWDers, while still packing an awd system at least the equal of the much heavier Euros.
What’s the hype ?? Mitsubishi and Subaru nailed this years ago RS and Spec C s . I know what I would rather drive or am I old skool I want to see a Subaru spec c Gr track battle
@@natel5370 I agree but unfortunately it's taken too long for a new car that harks back to those days
@@paulnorman8274 Yaris is as fast as type R, it's the same size and much more practical
I’ll take the Yaris GR, it’s got the looks, power, handling, braking and the all famous Reliability! Chris Harris slept in I guess for this one..
Yaris Out Accelerates McLaren 570s, Audi TTRS, Ferrari PISTA 488 and a Lamborghini to 60km/h.
@@denero4735 Power to weight ratio and AWD contribute to super quick acceleration off the line.
proper top tip ..
That Toya is sth new and special ..
Huiundajii N and Fiesta was purest (and cheapest) hot-hatches before ..
Nice video 👌 hot hatches are great i missing Hyundai en kia?
Needed a golf r really
Yes, keep believing the Golf R is a better car.
The new one isn’t out yet.
I miss the Renault Megan RS trophy in this line.
Wouldn't be nice to see a drag race of all the cars top gear 🙃🙃
Glad someone other than Chris ran through this... Can US has Yaris GR?
hi i love u top gear guys
GR Yaris for me.
The GR Yaris in the title got me thinking it was Chris Harris doing this
A35, Focus ST, and Golf R are more in line with the GR Yaris and Civic type R
The ST Edition has the same brakes as the standard Fiesta ST.
And it isnt triple turboed
@@wpjohn91 But it is a triple, turboed.....
Civic Type R Touring spec. About time, it now means a gent over 40 would consider one.
There should also have been a drag race with these hot hatches....which could have made it more cool!!!
Old top gear: 3 blokes having fun
New top gear: a typical car show
The civic is a legend it's competing with new cars
Ye
I'd like to see that Yaris beat the Type-R Limited Edition around a track
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@@richarddocherty5007 I've seen this video, thus me asking for times around a track instead. Yaris must be a hoot to drive being so light with awd + 257hp, but I dont see it dethroning the Type-R LE just yet
@Jamie Cole thanks bud...seen this one too. I didn't mention it because it wasn't the LE version of the Type-R. So the normal version was quicker on a small greasy/dampish track, so just imagine the LE version on a bigger dry track. Love me some Sutcliffe vids👌
Missing the Mini GP3
Really pleased the see the i30N but where's the Leon Cupra? It's always the forgotten car.
A hot hatch with near unusable rear seats? Yeah... that makes sense. The point of a hot hatch, for me, is that it should do everything... from the daily commute to shopping trips to a blast on a B-road. And from that POV, the Golf still looks like the best choice.
The GR can do everything you want a HH to do - most that buy them buy them as toys but it would work fine as a daily
I love a good hothatch
I love GR Yaris
I was hoping to see a drag race
There is a reason why Yaris is in the middle👌👌👌
Because it's what you take when you can't afford the A45S
@@DefinitelyNotEmma oof
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Lmao why would i waste more money on an unreliable endless money pit that's going to be ended up in a junkyard 10 years from now when i could buy a FUTURE CLASSIC, Tommi Makkinen approved, limited edition, rally special homologation hot hatch?
@@Random.Contents. the Toyota won't live 10 years either lol. You can take the best and enjoy it as long as you can, maybe strip it down at the end of its life to a track rocket so it has a couple years extra. Ooooor you take something less exciting that will also break sooner or later, but the time you have it, you never had the best option available. When you die anyway, why don't enjoy life to the fullest extent?
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Toyota is going to last waaaaaaay longer and it's a way better car for less money!
2:08 : "1.5 liter triple turbo" really ?
How is the A45 the most powerfull production hatchback ? What about the Ferrari GTC 4 Lusso ?
As much as i love to see these i dont think the Fiesta ST makes a fair chance against some of those since the price is almost or maybe even double?
am i the only one who thought that there will be a drag race of these😶
Disappointed. :(
@Too Breed nice
Where's the bmw 1 serie's
I’m still waiting for the drag race 👀
Man the Mazda3 Turbo is being slept on.
I'm waiting for the new RS 3
Toyota is finally rising up from the ashes and giving us this absolute banger of a car! So happy to see the brand go cool-mode again, and not Prius-hybrid-economy-thingy-mode anymore!
do they even sell the GR Yaris in the states can't think of any 3 cylinder car for sale here?
I would hug them all 😍