XR glasses rejoice!!!!!!!! I have a 7859hs based mini PC. Took a while for me to settle on this one. The previous ones I tried, had either issues with noise or temp. i really appreciate the usb c power. I switched the huge brick for a way smaller 100 watt charger
I bought this for my daughter and installed Bazzite it runs 1080p gaming like a dream. 99% of all games run 60FPS or better with full settings. This thing is perfect for a "steam machine" with Bazzite. There WAS a nasty bluetooth bug last update but they fixed it.
Thanks to distros like Bazzite and Nobara I have sucessfully gotten off Windows for my desktop. I still have windows on a seperate drive but I haven't used it in 4 months
@@InvictraX I don't play competitive gaming, only single player and MMOs which is why it's been successful for me 😂 Games with anti cheat and stuff like Adobe won't come around until more people switch to Linux, but people won't switch to Linux without games with anti cheat and Adobe, kinda lose lose 😂 If they somehow start using AI for anti-cheat then we may get a lot more competitive games and more users.
@@tdome3000 wait, you didnt got the joke this is a laptop apu, using the tinnyest heatsink, the power must be controlled for those two reasons on laptops, on desktops is pure heat and noise, noise from a tiny fan lets blame battery life 😂
I'd also love that! I'm sure more ppl would switch to Linux then. But tbh, Bazzite is awesome, it got everything SteamOS has and even more stuff, that valve doesn't ship or can't ship.
It would be nice, but there are alternatives currently available. ChimeraOS is another game centric Linux distro that tries to be like SteamOS. I have it running on my EM780 and it works perfectly
@@icerink239 That was the old debian-based steamOS though, not the new arch-based one that's used in the steam deck. Would be nice to have an official release which would provide a more stable and better first-class experience compared to community made unofficial steamos-based distros.
The main reason why ValvE hasn't released a new version is because everyone decided to blindly support Ngreedia and Ngreedia hates open source software and don't bother in releasing their drivers in such form. But since everyone can't understand what a horrible company Ngreedia is, they all will blame ValvE and Linux when their "magical" Ngreedia GPU doesn't work with SteamOS. So blame the correct culprit, not ValvE or Linux.
finally a form factor that matches the active components in an x86 handheld. The price is reasonable for 32GB-I can't go lower than 32GB RAM. Wished this had Oculink though, just in case in the future I want discrete GPU for various reasons
Hey, actually bazzite works at 4k OOTB when connected to a 4k display. I built a "low cost" console-killer setup with Bazzite not too long ago with a Ryzen 7 5700X and an RX 6800, total build cost of around 750$ aiming for 4k 60 and the experience has really been great. An ITX build with similar price range with Bazzite as a console replacement could really be an interesting video.
It's plastic.... But it saves you money. What do you want him to say... This is not the product review he released that one months ago. This is a Linux small form factor video. Not much of a review of the product itself.
He's got a great template for reviewing hardware, shows off the latest AAA games running on them, and gives us specs, realistic expectations, etc. He's one of the best reviewers I've ever subbed to honestly.
I honestly think PCs like this are the future of pc gaming for most people. Graphics cards are just going to keep getting more expensive. With Intel and AMD taking what they learn from their graphics card divisions and sticking them into integrated graphics, unless you have a professional reason for buying the newest graphics cards, I think this is where people will turn to. With nvidia not needing gamers due to how much they make in the AI realm, it's not like we're going to see a big price drop in their future cards. Gamers' best hope for affordable gaming cards has now become Intel's battlemage since AMD will price their cards lower than nvidia, but they'll also perform a bit lower too unless they surprise us. So, they'll be pretty even with nvidia on a fps per dollar scale.
Ey ETA Prime, thanks so much again for these videos, you're rocking it lately! One thing I'm missing though from these videos is an acoustic test: I would assume with such a small size (and fan) that noise is quite loud on this one? Looking for something to put in the living room...
I actually recently installed Bazzite on an external SSD and plug it into an NVidia powered laptop to see if it can replace Windows as my daily driver... I genuinely think I will be able to fully transition to Linux in about two months' time because it's just a solid distro thus far and the distro with the fewest graphical or other issues I tested in the last month(I tested 4 distros).
I appreciate that many would be using FSR and framegen on a device like this. But I do think it's important to show performance without these features on since not all games have these options accessible and for some, the visual or latency penalty isn't worth it. It also could also be a good way to show just how substantial the framerate uplifts are with these tools. Still, good video and a very impressive piece of hardware.
7840U is comparable to the Z1X based on a chip site I went to so I have no doubt it’ll rock Batocera Linux 🕹 I’m personally thinking about bailing on my Legion Go (I’ve got 2 weeks to figure this out and just spent 2 weeks w an Ally) and thinking of going for this lil guy instead (or the SER8)
I been using cachyos the handheld on my hp office pc I got on ebay, I did Bazzite abit it was not bad at all and it should be go to OS for new user or out of the box easy to use.
@allbboss actually if there a steam deck with the size of gba the price will be bigger than the orgianl because they will see it more advanced same when old laptops was huge in tye past
Fun video, makes me consider getting rid of my consoles. Have you considered Dual booting and just partitioning the nvme drive? I know you’ve mentioned in past videos you’re not a big fan but you could always use file systems that are compatible across Linux and windows.
I've always had a bad experience when using both Windows and any other OS on the same drive. Windows just kept overwriting the bootloader after each mayor update so I had to repair it every time. Not sure if that's still a problem with Win11 though.
the process technically hasn’t changed! just flash the USB, put the same files in the same places (for the most part, a few BIOSes have moved but not many) and you’re ready to retro! 🕹
В чем проблема разбить 1 диск на несколько и установить разные системы на разные диски? Вообще не вижу проблемы. SSD большего объема поставить и все. На крайний случай, можно внешний ssd использовать под линукс. Он легкий, ему скорости будет достаточно.
Every game you showed basically showed heavy stuttering on the frame time graph and looked choppy on your footage. That frame time is not what I would call acceptable. It's not like that on Windows on a ROG Ally or Legion GO.
Are there any cooling requirements on these small footprint mini desktops? Can you play World of Warships on this device or is it dependent upon Steam?
i dont have the tech knowledge around this but ive been wondering. Is there anything stopping an Egpu, GPU dock, adapter, or the PCs with the connections (either or with both thunder bolt or oculink) from using two oculinks or two thunderbolt 4s to get more bandwith out of the GPU? at least till they update them?
You're limited to one, either USB4 or Oculink connection. You might be better off looking at the new Minisforum UM890 Pro and pare it with their new Oculink dock. The dock will need a desktop power supply unit and Video card to work. Only worth doing if you intend to unplug the PC from the dock to take on trips.
@@mimo5383 Im just excited at the idea at potentially modular PC with the ability to cheaply and easilly upgrade parts. Oculink set up with a good mini PC really opens that up.
I wanted to be gaming on Linux on my low end PC so I used Endeavor OS as recommended by a TH-camr but was having trouble with AMD drivers for RX6500XT. Will Bazzite do the Job?
it’s interesting to see all these comments on price. my first mac mini was 499 back in 2004 - i still think ~$500 is the sweet spot if you pack enough into it and this one sure packs a punch. the SER8 is on sale for about the same price if you value upgradability but think this one is a better fit for me.
another question is there a way to use you steam OLED as a monitor and attach the mini pc behind the SD that way is totally portable more stronger SD for demanding games
I would just buy a steamdeck or legion go before I bought a box for the price of this. I dont care how much more performance it has. At least the other 2 are actual handhelds not a tiny square that needs a tv or monitor to be used.
funny u mention it, I’m evaluating a Go for 2 weeks (after ditching the Ally after 2 weeks). it’s really tempting to get this form factor - more memory and smaller profile. I’m usually docked from one location to the next so I really question how important a small screen is esp when I can get a portable HDMI monitor if I’m not gaming, I might be able to get away w using my iPadPro as a monitor - it seems silly to carry more than 1 screen around. this is just my personal use case - i have no doubt handhelds are great for others!
VITURE x 8BitDo Ultimate C Bluetooth Controller for Switch, Neckband, & Mobile Devices, With 6-axis Motion Control, Rumble Vibration, Enhanced Triggers, Wake On Shake
I have one of these with Bazzite, I use it for travel with my AR Glasses. Works like a charm, got all my gaming and media entertainment needs.
what AR glasses do you have? I am on the search for some that can handle things like room tracking
@@AndrewTSq I use XREAL Air AR glasses, I've had no issues with them. I also have the accessory that allows me to pin screens around me.
XR glasses rejoice!!!!!!!!
I have a 7859hs based mini PC. Took a while for me to settle on this one. The previous ones I tried, had either issues with noise or temp. i really appreciate the usb c power. I switched the huge brick for a way smaller 100 watt charger
When it comes with AR glasses go Xreal or go home. The Xreal Air 2 are really good.
I have a similar travel setup. I have a headless laptop that I use with my ar glasses. I don’t expect to AAA game on it, but it’s a great setup for me
I bought this for my daughter and installed Bazzite it runs 1080p gaming like a dream. 99% of all games run 60FPS or better with full settings. This thing is perfect for a "steam machine" with Bazzite. There WAS a nasty bluetooth bug last update but they fixed it.
I actually sometimes consider moving to linux because Windows just disappoints me lately.
It’s easier and better than ever, as long as the games/programs you play will run
it's fun to play around with.
@@keithlewis1739 Might mess around when I upgrade to my next pc in the future
It will excite you for a while until you start jumping through hoops just to get things working again.
Dual boot best option for new you if not familiar with linux
This CPU is incredibly efficient! The only issue is that it should've been in more laptops!
Great to see all of these games running well!
really mini pc used to run football manager laggy, now this smaller than a controller pc can run cyberpunk
Thanks to distros like Bazzite and Nobara I have sucessfully gotten off Windows for my desktop. I still have windows on a seperate drive but I haven't used it in 4 months
Did you get Valorant to work on Linux?
@@InvictraX I don't play competitive gaming, only single player and MMOs which is why it's been successful for me 😂
Games with anti cheat and stuff like Adobe won't come around until more people switch to Linux, but people won't switch to Linux without games with anti cheat and Adobe, kinda lose lose 😂
If they somehow start using AI for anti-cheat then we may get a lot more competitive games and more users.
@@Dr-CthulhuOfRlyeh Companies using AI are likely USING Linux, so I see why you think that
It might be a small pc but that price tag is big.
Nah not really, considering what you are packing and you can get it bare bones, if you have a drive and ram already, you can save some money that way.
Yep, it is not priced well at all.
@@matthewjohnson1891 329 bare bones or with 32GB/1TB?
5:40 If you want the "max performance out of this little PC", then you shouldn't leave the governor at Power Save.
it is to save battery and not go deaf 😂
@@betag24cn The CMOS battery? And what does all that BS that you wrote have to do with benchmarking for a YT video and "max performance"?
@@tdome3000 wait, you didnt got the joke
this is a laptop apu, using the tinnyest heatsink, the power must be controlled for those two reasons on laptops, on desktops is pure heat and noise, noise from a tiny fan
lets blame battery life 😂
Valve needs to release Steam OS already :(
I thought they did back then, for the steam machines
I'd also love that! I'm sure more ppl would switch to Linux then.
But tbh, Bazzite is awesome, it got everything SteamOS has and even more stuff, that valve doesn't ship or can't ship.
It would be nice, but there are alternatives currently available. ChimeraOS is another game centric Linux distro that tries to be like SteamOS. I have it running on my EM780 and it works perfectly
@@icerink239 That was the old debian-based steamOS though, not the new arch-based one that's used in the steam deck. Would be nice to have an official release which would provide a more stable and better first-class experience compared to community made unofficial steamos-based distros.
The main reason why ValvE hasn't released a new version is because everyone decided to blindly support Ngreedia and Ngreedia hates open source software and don't bother in releasing their drivers in such form.
But since everyone can't understand what a horrible company Ngreedia is, they all will blame ValvE and Linux when their "magical" Ngreedia GPU doesn't work with SteamOS.
So blame the correct culprit, not ValvE or Linux.
Linux bros represent!!
thank you for giving linux this amount of attention 👍🏾
Another great video! It's a cool little setup. I'm still stuck with a laptop, 3060 in it. Works fine for me right now.
looks great. I've been running windows on mine but I'm definitely going to make the switch. thanks for the vid.
finally a form factor that matches the active components in an x86 handheld. The price is reasonable for 32GB-I can't go lower than 32GB RAM. Wished this had Oculink though, just in case in the future I want discrete GPU for various reasons
It's only been under 10 hours that there was another smallest gaming PC reviewed by you. Tech moves fast indeed.
Hey, actually bazzite works at 4k OOTB when connected to a 4k display.
I built a "low cost" console-killer setup with Bazzite not too long ago with a Ryzen 7 5700X and an RX 6800, total build cost of around 750$ aiming for 4k 60 and the experience has really been great.
An ITX build with similar price range with Bazzite as a console replacement could really be an interesting video.
SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT A PRODUCT
It's plastic.... But it saves you money. What do you want him to say... This is not the product review he released that one months ago. This is a Linux small form factor video. Not much of a review of the product itself.
yeah bro never critiques anything
He does all the time. I've been watching him since he was under 50k.
to sell the product, you must not say anything bad, if you are paid to sell the product, you do not do that
@@betag24cn cry more
Bro just cranking out these videos like crazy
He's got a great template for reviewing hardware, shows off the latest AAA games running on them, and gives us specs, realistic expectations, etc. He's one of the best reviewers I've ever subbed to honestly.
I honestly think PCs like this are the future of pc gaming for most people. Graphics cards are just going to keep getting more expensive. With Intel and AMD taking what they learn from their graphics card divisions and sticking them into integrated graphics, unless you have a professional reason for buying the newest graphics cards, I think this is where people will turn to. With nvidia not needing gamers due to how much they make in the AI realm, it's not like we're going to see a big price drop in their future cards. Gamers' best hope for affordable gaming cards has now become Intel's battlemage since AMD will price their cards lower than nvidia, but they'll also perform a bit lower too unless they surprise us. So, they'll be pretty even with nvidia on a fps per dollar scale.
yes! this is the way! 🚀
Ey ETA Prime, thanks so much again for these videos, you're rocking it lately! One thing I'm missing though from these videos is an acoustic test: I would assume with such a small size (and fan) that noise is quite loud on this one? Looking for something to put in the living room...
even if the fan was the loudest ever put in a pc it still wouldn't be audible over your sound system.
I actually recently installed Bazzite on an external SSD and plug it into an NVidia powered laptop to see if it can replace Windows as my daily driver... I genuinely think I will be able to fully transition to Linux in about two months' time because it's just a solid distro thus far and the distro with the fewest graphical or other issues I tested in the last month(I tested 4 distros).
I'd love to see Bazzite running on an arc gpu!
Looking forward to your review on the RG40XX H ...... while we're talking about small Linux devices. Haha
I appreciate that many would be using FSR and framegen on a device like this. But I do think it's important to show performance without these features on since not all games have these options accessible and for some, the visual or latency penalty isn't worth it. It also could also be a good way to show just how substantial the framerate uplifts are with these tools.
Still, good video and a very impressive piece of hardware.
Some emulation tests would be nice to see!
7840U is comparable to the Z1X based on a chip site I went to so I have no doubt it’ll rock Batocera Linux 🕹
I’m personally thinking about bailing on my Legion Go (I’ve got 2 weeks to figure this out and just spent 2 weeks w an Ally) and thinking of going for this lil guy instead (or the SER8)
The fact that u can run games on something smaller then a phone is insane
voting for that bazzite on PC with intel ARC graphics video.
Smallest 7840 cpu in the world.😮 and good ports.
that fast ddr5 help fps big time
What joypad is that?
That little machine is more powerful than Steam Deck. And more portable when moving from say your screen at home, and one at your place of work.
steam deck is still better.
@@Yusei255 how so?
Please how good it handle video editing sir?
How about as a plex server and with hw transcoding?
Are those italic game tiles on the start page a bazzite feature? Looks dope af 👌
4:55
Oops, I clearly missed that, thank you!
@@sulac4ever170 it looks slick, i agree with you
This is neat because 780. But the GEM10 has 680m and oculink for under 400 ^-^)
would be good to include emulation performance since emulation is gonna take over gaming as new games have no soul
Been taken over, ever since pirate days lol
The Is a new versione of these mini PC?
can't wait for ryzen ai 300 update for this unit with radeon 890m graphics
insane 😮
1080p with FSR3 and framegen is pretty low resolution for a monitor though. This machine is really more suited for tiny handheld screens.
Great machine. The only cons is the price
What is the theme you are using with the CSS loader? This one looks dope, I want to use the same on my steam deck
I been using cachyos the handheld on my hp office pc I got on ebay, I did Bazzite abit it was not bad at all and it should be go to OS for new user or out of the box easy to use.
But this costs more than the steam deck tho
He said the smallest not the cheapest
But with more powerful hardware ;)
Looks like toy more than pc@@DCrypt11
@allbboss actually if there a steam deck with the size of gba the price will be bigger than the orgianl because they will see it more advanced same when old laptops was huge in tye past
Fun video, makes me consider getting rid of my consoles.
Have you considered Dual booting and just partitioning the nvme drive?
I know you’ve mentioned in past videos you’re not a big fan but you could always use file systems that are compatible across Linux and windows.
I've always had a bad experience when using both Windows and any other OS on the same drive. Windows just kept overwriting the bootloader after each mayor update so I had to repair it every time. Not sure if that's still a problem with Win11 though.
I'm curious about the arc performance on linux!
do a video putting in a bigger hdd in the legion go please :3
hdd? lmao, nvme ssd
how can i get the controller, can you share a link please!!! Thank you
Also need to know where to get that
Hook it up to an external gpu 😝
With all these ultra SFF pcs, I just wish they will include oculink by default…
what controller is that
@@thefakechris it's the Viture x 8BitDo Ultimate
A shame that they did not add-in an ethernet port on this one either. That was my only real gripe with the previous model.
physically the ethernet connector takes alot of space and that, is bot abundant on this thing
perhaps a usb to ethernet adapter could work for you?
ETA can you do an 2024 updated guide to make a bootable batocera thumbdrive with games for PC?
the process technically hasn’t changed! just flash the USB, put the same files in the same places (for the most part, a few BIOSes have moved but not many) and you’re ready to retro! 🕹
В чем проблема разбить 1 диск на несколько и установить разные системы на разные диски? Вообще не вижу проблемы. SSD большего объема поставить и все. На крайний случай, можно внешний ssd использовать под линукс. Он легкий, ему скорости будет достаточно.
Every game you showed basically showed heavy stuttering on the frame time graph and looked choppy on your footage. That frame time is not what I would call acceptable. It's not like that on Windows on a ROG Ally or Legion GO.
Bro did you really just make a TH-cam ad for this video😂. I’m scrolling and wonder why. You got loyal fans gee😂
Are there any cooling requirements on these small footprint mini desktops? Can you play World of Warships on this device or is it dependent upon Steam?
10:45 sir this pc is 769 united states dollars at full price. tf you mean lower end
i’m seeing it for 500 on Amazon, 530 w 1TB so i’m seriously considering it.
Which monitor is using in this video, it loooks nice
take a vacation eta, you sound tired of doing this lol, anyways, very interesting product and expensive
What controller are you using in this video if you don't mind me asking?
linux = good
windows = bad
give me internet points
I'm curious to see how Bazzite runs on the MSI Claw
sweet system
Interesting🤔, i wound how online competitive shooters like Warzone perform on this badboy
A pc im this size with powerful graphics?!
Very nice
i dont have the tech knowledge around this but ive been wondering.
Is there anything stopping an Egpu, GPU dock, adapter, or the PCs with the connections (either or with both thunder bolt or oculink) from using two oculinks or two thunderbolt 4s to get more bandwith out of the GPU? at least till they update them?
You're limited to one, either USB4 or Oculink connection. You might be better off looking at the new Minisforum UM890 Pro and pare it with their new Oculink dock. The dock will need a desktop power supply unit and Video card to work. Only worth doing if you intend to unplug the PC from the dock to take on trips.
@@mimo5383
Im just excited at the idea at potentially modular PC with the ability to cheaply and easilly upgrade parts. Oculink set up with a good mini PC really opens that up.
Why the control looks like steam deck
I wanted to be gaming on Linux on my low end PC so I used Endeavor OS as recommended by a TH-camr but was having trouble with AMD drivers for RX6500XT. Will Bazzite do the Job?
I'm on Xubuntu but in general dont install proprietary AMD drivers just let mesa take care of it....I game on CPU graphics laptop on my channel
the biggest problem of these mini PCs is the price
and no the size or portability isn't an excuse nor does it make it worth it
the problem is quality, noise, temperatures, then the costthe channel is paid to present the product, nothing more
it’s interesting to see all these comments on price. my first mac mini was 499 back in 2004 - i still think ~$500 is the sweet spot if you pack enough into it and this one sure packs a punch. the SER8 is on sale for about the same price if you value upgradability but think this one is a better fit for me.
No Ethernet port 😢
to get that size, they gotta be banking you’re gonna use a USB-C/Thunderbolt dock/hub.
For that price, I think xbox s is a better deal with better graphics?
add an egpu and then test it
Can you try it out with an E-GPU?
Please 😊
Does anyone know what his controller is? Like a xbox console controller but is way better looking.
Ey early comment
another question is there a way to use you steam OLED as a monitor and attach the mini pc behind the SD that way is totally portable more stronger SD for demanding games
Will you try windows on it?
if linux works, why wouldnt windows work, you already know how it goes
@@betag24cn is this always true? doesn’t windows get picky about drivers?
5:40 so why u have power governor set to power save?
So the clocks go down to minimum when you are not using the system....
I would just buy a steamdeck or legion go before I bought a box for the price of this. I dont care how much more performance it has. At least the other 2 are actual handhelds not a tiny square that needs a tv or monitor to be used.
well, this is a htpc, desktop and can play games, the ones you mention are only the last one, not the same product or market
funny u mention it, I’m evaluating a Go for 2 weeks (after ditching the Ally after 2 weeks). it’s really tempting to get this form factor - more memory and smaller profile. I’m usually docked from one location to the next so I really question how important a small screen is esp when I can get a portable HDMI monitor if I’m not gaming, I might be able to get away w using my iPadPro as a monitor - it seems silly to carry more than 1 screen around. this is just my personal use case - i have no doubt handhelds are great for others!
For that price I rather get a gaming desktop.
What's the problem of the single drive? Dual boot doesn't require that... or partitioning is not allowed anymore?
Cool ❤
does it have a HDMI 2.1 port with VRR support?
Is that an 8bitdo Ultimate with Steam Deck LE thumbsticks ripped out and placed inside?
does the OS support eGPU like GPD G1?
can you make high end pc parts bazzite review please
So, I guess emulation works on this.
you really had to say that? really?
Is there something similar for AI?
Can you useit thi os for web developers?
May I use egpu with that pc?
What's the BIOS key for this machine? I've got one and the docs were lacking for this and I'm a Mac guy so haven't done this in a while.
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Would this be able to run asseto corsa with mods and support a sim wheel?
спасибо
What controller is that?
nothing says about wifi , its a 6? 7 ?
Anyone know what controller that is in the thumbnail?
VITURE x 8BitDo Ultimate C Bluetooth Controller for Switch, Neckband, & Mobile Devices, With 6-axis Motion Control, Rumble Vibration, Enhanced Triggers, Wake On Shake
@@IHaveBadWiFiBro Many thanks to you!!! Appreciate it!!
i couldnt install Bazzite on my EM780, just get error and failed check
hope you get it working - it’s what I plan to check out when (and if!) I get mine.
Can someone tell me what controller is he using? It looks like a 8bitdo...
Does it support eGPUs?