@@TheCarGuysTV The reason why I do not like modern hypercars is because they do not have a racing pedigree like hypercars of the late 90s and the 2000s had.
Another factor on these cars is when they get hit: They're often 'totaled'. The establishment has forced industry to make cars that are no longer financially fixable and have too much technology in them. If it's not one thing it's another: The transmission computer is unhappy, the engine computer is unhappy, the door and window computer is unhappy, the radio computer is unhappy, the emissions controls are unhappy, the cooling system is having an existential crisis and that's making the transmission start to fail. The vehicle is in limp like you're handicapped mode. All of these problems can be easily fixed by buying an older (by >10 years car). I have an 08 Manual Focus and just repaired the front suspension: It handles like a new car. I'm through pissing money away on this environmental BS. Now if one travels to places like Bangladesh you will see them burning the insulation off of copper wire to reclaim it with absolutely NO CONCERN for the environment whatsoever. it's all elitist nonsense: It makes me want to burn a tire.
Really depends on the car, though. There were many turds among them. 90s Mercedes were great, 2000s Mercedes horribly unreliable. And then they got better again around 2012. I think 90s and 2000s are a matter of hit & miss. Gotta know what you're doing, do your homework, learn which models you should avoid. And while I absolutely agree that new cars are complete SHITE, I have to say that most of my favourite cars came out between 2009 and 2014. But then again... that was 10+ years ago. So maybe those aren't "new" at all. 2009 to 2014 is the sweet spot for me. Awesome, awesome designs, the level of tech that is actually useful, SPEED and pretty great reliability.
The problem is the software and firmware that runs all the functions. It is not sufficiently debugged, tested and tried under real world conditions. The programmers likely never spent one day driving - if they know how to drive - so all the settings and behaviours are based on assumptions of ideal or near-ideal conditions. Human override has not been considered and is not built into the feature responses.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 I have a 2023 GLE450. Mechanically, outstanding. In terms of the features, ergonomics and stability of SW, it sucks. I have been to the dealer 7 times in 14 months, and after the first time the suggested that I don't understand technology, I told them what I do for a living and showed them videos of the problems. They changed their tune very quickly on the bugs, but there is not much they can do regarding bad design.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 when I look at used Mercedes cars, 80's W126 S-Class interior leather and material looks way better in condition compared to 00's W220 S-Class. Despite 20 years of age gap, W220 interiors are literally decaying.
Yes, another item classified as “ white goods”, refrigerator, washing machine, microwave, car. Boring, computerised, sits in the corner until needed 🥱.
Love this video!! Totally agree. This year I bought a 2018 SL 65 AMG with a mere 5,000 miles for less than 1/2 of the original sticker. Yes - the last V-12 SL made (mine was 7 from the end) for less than a new well equipped pickup truck 😂😂😂. And it scores 💯 on the soul meter and it leaves diamond shaped imprints on my back when I floor it!
Exactly, you are intended to keep replacing your new cars much more frequently than old cars. New cars are not better for the environment, they just destroy the environment (and empty your wallet) in new ways
I don't agree with all your points, but the one which has recently caused me to buy a 4 year old car rather than a new one is the mandatory "safety" intervention stuff. The lane departure warning, lane keep assist, speed limit warning, automatic braking. On the roads I drive, the bongs are incessant, and the steering interventions downright dangerous. And all of these systems are the result of a paper written about 15 years' ago using no real world data, only modelling. On my 4 year old car, I can turn these "safety" features off, and they stay off.
completely agree. One mine I have to turn them actively on to make use of them, they are off by default. I will try to keep this car for as long as possible
Lane departure management feature is a dreadful and dangerous function. I had it on in my new vehicle and when I tried to steer around an obstacle that was on the roadway, it tried to steer me back to the lane. Barely missed a collision. And in this vehicle it is mandatory when using cruise control.
My 12 year old car has ABS, airbags, reversing sensors/camera, and cruise. That's it. Nothing to turn off, the only thing that beeps is the reversing sensor, it doesn't argue with me if I cross the white line at the apex of a bend, or swerve to miss debris or some whacking great pothole. I've had two this-years model rentals in the last few months (CX5 and a Tucson), and they were both horrendous with driver distractions - the Mazda was hands down the worst in this regard. 100% dreading my next car buying experience because all that well-intentioned stuff is just way too obtrusive in the current crop.
This is why I keep my 1991 Toyota. 1. Cheap to maintain. 2. Easy to fix. 3. Doesn’t monitor where I go. 4. More fun to drive at 200k miles. 5. Manual transmission
It's similar with my 06 Camry which is somewhere around 197500 miles. You think you're driving closer to 80 and then look down and realize you're only going 60 in a 65. 4 cylinder also means I was able to go 499 miles without the fuel light coming on, surprising me when I checked my notes.
The bureaucrats in Brussels have destroyed the motor car. Unsafe safety features and getting rid of buttons and replacing with stupid huge tablet screens. Yet you can't use a mobile phone screen. Fabulous video 100%.
The bureaucrats is Brussels are actually the reason why cars are safer. The bureaucrats is Brussels have nothing to do with screens their size or the absence of buttons. Have you have heard about Tesla? You don't seem to. Do you know which country headquarters Tesla? You don't seem to. Not everything single that bureaucrats anywhere (note: anywhere...) have done maybe positive but your opinion is biased and brainwash...
@@sixpotshot no thank you, the bureaucrats are 100% responsible Regards the tablets that is of course the manufactures, they are doing it to offset inflationary pressures from the fiat currency printing machine & to save money due to all safety features they are installing to please the bureaucrats.
@@sixpotshot why are you even watching these videos? Go and watch some about the genius which is carbon capture or some other pie in the sky crap to make people like you all giddy. Governments and “bureaucrats” love your types. Perfect little sheep
It's not Brussels, it's the axis of evil that is the World Economic Forum + United Nations Agenda for Sustainable Development 2030. Agenda = NO personal transport, not even EVs.
100% agreed. I had already decided that my current vehicle is the last new car I'll ever buy. I'm going back to proper steering and enjoyment rather than a car that brakes for me and sends data to an insurance company to raise my prices. Electronic steering? There so that the EU can mandate auto correct steering. Piss off. I'm out.
You are precisely correct on all counts…at the age of 70 I have purchased over 30 automobiles over the years including a ‘54 Chevy Coupe, ‘61 VW Beetle, ‘76 Triumph Spitfire (new), ‘72 Fairlady Z (in Japan), 84 Pontiac Fiero, 76 TR6, 07 Mini Cooper S, Acura TRX Type S, numerous vans/minivans, sedans, “kids” learners (one son totaled four), several motorcycles, …..you get the point. Some of these cars were dogs/losers, but EVERYONE of them had soul and great memories…..my current and sole VIC is a 2010 987.2 Boxster 6spd manual lightly modified and basically specd. To say it has soul and provides a great driving/driver’s experience is an understatement. And, yes, when I am walking away from it after a spirited run through the twisties or just a short trip to the coffee shop, I often stop to look back and smile. At 145k miles over 11 years it’s still running strong and getting me from point A to B, NEVER in a straight line!
I cannot like this video enough! You speak the absolute truth. And that’s why, after 12 years of lusting and dreaming, I bought my last car, a 2021 Audi TT RS. Engine, leather, looks, weight, physical buttons, and NO INFOTAINMENT screen. And yes, I look back and stare at it every single time.
@@TheCarGuysTV I hope you hand crafted all those images from scratch and did not use AI ... otherwise never complain about computers in cars again, including haptic feedback buttons. Just sayin ... 😉
Well, I have never bought a new car in my life. I've always found fun performance cars to buy for half price to a quarter price of new 3 to 10 years after they were made. And then I keep them a long time and do my own repairs. This has included Mustang GTs when I was young, a 300ZX twin turbo, a Supra turbo, an E39 540i Sport, an E46 330i ZHP and more. Currently own an E60 535i M-Sport, E90 335i M-Sport, 997.2 C4S and Audi B8 S4 - every single one of those cars was/is a manual. Now I also admit to having a Tesla P90D because how else can I go 0-60 in 2.6 seconds while spending less than $50k. It makes a great, maintenance-free daily, though I don't actually daily it, I just rotate driving all my cars. Of course all those cars are quite pedestrian compared to the cars on this channel, but the point is you can do quite well buying pre-owned. Finally, I agree that I have no interest in most cars made much after 2015 for all the well-said reasons in the video.
I could not agree more! I still enjoy driving my 2006 Toyota 4Runner V8 Sport Edition. With no high tech, and knobs! And, it only has 44,000 and some change in original miles.
Plastic has its place like wheel arch panels - French cars tend to rust up less compared to Germ,an Cars but - yes inside, well keep it simple and elegant. I hate large screens near the dash. Looking at a cheap 10year old car now myself - not interested in EV's or spy shuttles. Wish Car manufacturers would throw the gimmicks and get back to simple and reliable vehicles that can be easily maintained and fun to drive. Like with Sports motorcycles where a 20 year old motorcycle with some cheap modifications (mainly in suspension and a new front brake master cylinder) can smack down a 50k modern sports bike on the track. Don't want nanny aids - connectivity - or f-n winglets.🤡
I hate that screens have replaced analog dash knobs. One thing goes wrong on that digital dash and you loose a lot of function and therefore you NEED to move quickly fixing it. They are Service managers dream.
Those huge touch screens are much cheaper to make, but they cost much more then old school panel with 20 physical buttons and knobs. If it is not a scam then what ?
@@davepaturno4290As someo who's first car was an auto Miata....I would not wish that suffering on anyone, every Miata should be manual. I drive a manual Sentra now.
@fortheloveofnoise I agree. My 2008 Miata has a 6-speed manual transmission, upgraded suspension, intake system, exhaust, and lighting. Its most fun is when the top is down.
For the past 6 years I’ve been driving a 2003 Corsa with no A/C, no P/S, no rev counter, no central locking & no radio. It does what it needs to do and costs me very little to maintain. New cars are just not worth their asking price.
when I drive the Mrs new MG4 it drives me nuts, constant beeping with collision warnings, lane keep assist yanking the steering wheel, over reliance on touch screen, stupidly slow to react adaptive lights. A true shitter
Agree, I have replaced every kitchen appliance in the last 5 years. Even if the failed part only costs pennies, you can’t take them apart, and specialist repair services cost more than a new appliance. Just like new cars.
I live in the Netherlands. Small country, one might think, till you have to get somewhere. In my youth public transport would get you anywhere in reasonable time. Does days are gone. I bought my son a Alfa GTV 1.8 twin spark (145 hp) from 1999. not in the best of shape, but we are working on it. Not long ago we made a trip trough the Benelux, to France, 1600 km to and from in a weekend. what a drive... Next year we go to Italy in it, but first we have to exchange the leaking exhaust.. Though we love this sound. ;)
And that agenda is what exactly? Saving lives, reducing pollution, making cities walkable again, or some nefarious conspiracy you have in mind? Obviously, I’m a car guy because I’m here, but I don’t understand these conspiracy theories about spooky bureaucrats trying to ruin our lives for their own amusement
Totally agree. I'm deeply involved in a MB dealership and even for me there's not a single sexy car within the MB portfolio anymore. And other manufacturers aren't much better.... Also I never understood the trend of going towards touchscreens. I hate it.
Touch screens should be illegal in cars and here in Norway it is actually illegal to use the touch screen while driving (and courts just ruled that standing still with enigne of in a stand still que is driving and you get a fine for using the screen or phone while standing still). Using mobile phone or the cars touch screen while sitting in the car is now a 1.100 US $ fine in Norway now.
@@Ben-fc3pi agreed, I also have s550 cabriolet I bought new in 2017 and I think it’s timeless design wise especially in my color combo (Ruby black/matching dark cherry top/designo white interior)
Your spot on Damian we’ve lost all the fun of car ownership with emission regulations strangling new car sounds that mute the exhaust so you don’t get that proper burble with rev limiters when sitting still, they’ve grown massively compared with the greatest hot hatch generation of the 80’s and 90’s that make them podgy with massive weight gains, electric power steering replacing hydraulic that makes them vague with absolutely no feel, stop/start don’t get me started with that nonsense. But as bad as cars have gotten it’s the roads that truly are a disgrace that could cost thousands to fix if you encounter a massive pot hole that destroys the suspension, tyres and wheels on your pride and joy when you want to go for a blast.
It's not just the cars. The OEM parts are super expensive. The labour is expensive. The quality on those parts is declining. They are to expensive to maintain if you can't do 50% of the work yourself. The quality of cars themselves have dropped so much that I don't think the mechanics really think of it as a labour of love. The quality workmanship isn't there. It's just patchwork to keep them running.
Those with bloody knuckles know what your talking about. And its true. AND, of those, you still need to find one who takes that pride and loves what they do. Rare find.
Labor has to be expensive! What do you think where all these tourists are coming from :))) Now even out of the season you simply can't live off these tourists. That's because everyone has a big salary now, at least in Europe and they are traveling all year long!
I know so many people that have recently sold their new/er cars and bought cars from 2008-2010 era. I myself was looking at new cars for so long, and I couldn't find anything that even slightly peaked my interest, let alone got me excited like older cars do. I'm happy to see this video, spot on. Also happy to see so many agreeing in the comments. We can only vote with our feet. The main issue is, not enough are. Thanks for the video.
Number 8: Every 2024 car and beyond has a nightmarish speed limiter that you have to jump through hoops to switch off. Most of the time, it gets the speed limits wrong too!
They are dangerous when they get it wrong too. I had a brand new VW Golf rental car that braked from 70 down to 50mph on the A14 as it had been loaded with out of date speed limits from before the road was upgraded. It scared the hell out of me and it was lucky there was no-one behind. I couldn't work out initially what on earth was going on as my own car is ancient and doesn't have any of this nonsense. I have had similar dramas with lane assist trying to steer the car for me on a narrow country lane - insanely dangerous bit of tech! It is bureaucratic overreach and is counter productive and unnecessary.
The new Corvette Z06 is one of the exceptions to this rule. Naturally aspirated, flat plane crank, amazing high-pitched exhaust symphony 670hp, crazy fast lap times. It's basically a modernized, better 458 Speciale. Also the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing in the sports sedan market. Lotus Emira to an extent as well, though it lacks a bit in performance.
The problem with those that govern us and currently most car manufacturers don't understand that for most of us a car is an emotional purchase. I don't want a utilitarian soulless hunk of recycled metal and plastic. I want a car that makes me look over my shoulder and admire it after I have parked.
"they all look like bulba's committee designed politically correct Euro boxes designed to move sedentary distracted perpetually offended zombies at government regulated speeds"... 🤣 this is priceless 😆
I am an old school car enthusiast as well. I only need aircon. (Cape Town is very hot during summer) and front electric windows,info from a basic trip computer and if possible, excellent sound quality. I particularly like small to medium coupe designs (think Audi TT, Peugeot 406 Coupe) or something practical like a Volvo XC70. One of the few modern cars I think I would enjoy is an Alpine A110 (but unfortunately we don't get them in South Africa). Another normal modern car design that gets my attention is Mazda3 (cabin design is still leaning more towards old school, in my humble opinion). I loved cars since I crawled and enjoy driving (most South Africans drive bland and boring SUV or Pick up trucks we call "Bakkie") as the driving experience, the feel of the road under my arse, especially when cornering is a joyous sensation (at legal speed). To me, driving symbolise freedom. I am not sure how long it will be, before this experience will be taken away from us. But for now, we keep on enjoying the ability to drive cars.
New cars contribute to landfill faster, making their shorer life and environmental footprint t questionable. Let alone the tech reliability and cost to the consumer.
I disagree car's truck's or anything made after 2015 is trash and just as reliable as a drunk who never shows up for work. I have been in the industry for 28 years I work for Toyota and I can tell you today's Toyota is a sad joke compaired to anything we have made after 2015 all do to greed and the American managment who have put profit over quality we start out making a great launch vehicle buy the end of that year its a completely different vehicle do to cheap third part parts we are forced to look for cost reduction and we start out with the components and all the plastics that are going to fail sooner reather then later all by design. They are not safer if anything there dangerous do to everything being controled by a computer that is going to fail putting your life on the line if the computers fail as your on the motor way yeah your breaks dont work you cant stear it all do to the componetsa failing because the computers are inop.
I only lost $13,000 (AUD) over 7 years of owning my focus RS from new. 5 years of warranty I made good use of and even made claims a year out of warranty. Eventually ford didn’t want to know about the car so I decided off loaded it to a dealer for a price I was happy with. Approximately $1857 a year it cost me in depreciation which was good value for performance I think. 10+ track days without fault. I made good use of it.
The annual deprecation hit isn’t so much if you keep them for over 5 years, or 10 years like me. Also you don’t expect to have repair bills for several years and all wearing parts are brand new at the time you buy a new car. There should be lots of benefits when buying a new car. But they are all offset by the other downsides mentioned in this video.
I agree with everything you say in this video Adrian. I won't be buying a new car again, even if I could afford one. I live in New Zealand and New car prices are ridiculous.
The value add of NZ dealers ripoff prices is that they are saving you the effort of choosing any options or even the colour of the only car they have in stock.
I have never felt so identified with a car enthusiast thinking before. And what you said about electric cars? Wao my exact words over the past 5 years. So good to see this!
The secret is to have 2 cars. One that is efficient, safe, comfortable, reliable and cheap to run. The other without all the bells and whistles that offer a contrast between the two. Would also be nice to replicate with 2 wives😂
Can have 4 wives if you are a muslim. Why do you think they are against it. Also divorce is easy too, just kick her out and give her some money you both agreed on before you tied the knot.
Totally agree - it’s something I talk to my car friends about all the time these days. I’ll keep my analogue naturally aspirated cars until either they break or I do. Hit the nail so squarely on the head it’s uncanny. Well batted sir!
@19:45 you nailed it. My mate took me for a spin in his Tesla today. It was very impressive, and goes like a stabbed rat, but it isn't as comfy as my 1990 Mercedes. I love that thing. Her name is Brenda. It's amazing how many people come up and say " They don't make 'em like that anymore". Keep it up lad!
@@HKFunster It’s partly a joke, but partly it’s a reference to the ESG score which mainly companies need to follow. Which is a similar-to- social credit score. Look it up, there’s plenty of info on it both online but also on youtube.
The girlfriend had a VW id3, horrible car. things kept going wrong with it, the dealers were useless, Lack of physical switches, Horrible interface and really poor build quality.
Bought a brand new Dacia Duster in 2020. Loved it and was all the car I needed at first. Problem is when I started noticing production defects. Kept going back to the dealer and they couldn't solve them. Started going to a different dealer. The last straw was when I was without the car for a whole month, because some dumb PLASTIC gearbox bushing broke at about 15 thousand miles and I had to threaten Dacia/Renault with a contract resolution for them to finally fix it. Sold the car as soon as I got it back. Never again.
100% spot on. It saddens me being a petrolhead and having zero interest in latest generation of cars. Another point could have been the amount of models and variants each manufacturer sell now, it's unreal, porsche are one of the worst
Porsche has pretty much perfected the brilliant strategy of making a variant of the legacy model to suit almost all tastes, if not pockets. There are very real differences in driving behaviour, civility, and degrees of practicality between all of those neun-elfers. 👽⛽
For us folk looking at normal fun cars , I’d say the demise started when they started putting in the opf filters … so from 2018/19 onwards .. then came the removal of physical buttons and then all the mandatory safety features …. I now look to by cars pre 2018 . My 2016 Porsche spyder has soul , character, no stop start , no lane waning , physical buttons and is everything I want in a car .
You absolutely nailed it. I recently leased a BMW M44Oi and although it's fast and has some interesting piped in noise, it does nothing for me. Everything is controlled by a giant distracting screen and it feels so large and lifeless. My brother just happened to give my daughter a 2005 Acura 3.2 CL when she got her drivers license, I have to say I the Acura has so much more soul, its amazing to drive at legal speed, smells like old leather, has a thin rimmed steering wheel, buttons and stalks that click and the overall quality of materials is just fantastic. I didn't realize how good older cars were until I experienced going back in time.
"Have No Soul". You absolutely nailed the entire video, but the lack of soul and the surveillance issues with newer cars drove me to purchase a 2003 Corvette here in the U.S. It certainly is not perfect, but the visceral driving experience makes it all worth while.
It’s all a bit “Emperor’s New Clothes” lately. Every car looks the same due to drag coefficient, yet the car is incapable of legally reaching the speeds anyway. The replacement of manufacturers badge for a sticker is hilarious. The weight saving would be negated if the driver ate a biscuit prior to getting in. Embrace the classics! Thanks for the Video, excellent as always.
For costs and privacy concerns alone I already decided to refrain from buying a new car ever again. I drive a Kia, from 2011, and a Beetle from 1966, and I'm totally fine with that.
2:45 I really want a Mercedes Benz in that size and price range, but I can’t get past that styling. It’s like the designers have decided that the appearance of a car is no longer relevant at all. Most Mercedes Benz cars are quite ugly but the GLB is by far the ugly winner 😂
I’m in the U.S. and I realized the same about Porsches a few years ago (2019) when the dealers started asking for outrageous mark-ups on the GT cars. Since then, I’ve written down what I want to own and only a couple are modern cars - the Ferrari 296 is an unbelievably flexible package - daily driver and a high performance super car and if I could get a Porsche GT4 RS at sticker price, I would). For perspective, I think I am somewhat comparable to the Car Guys because I’ve been buying sports cars since I was 27. I have a few sports cars that I bought new and still own: a 458 Speciale, a 997.2 GT3, a 991.1 GT3 RS and a 993 C2S.
This black box alone will make me look for an old car (before 2017) when my EV needs replacement. And my EV (ZS EV) even is of a primitive one when it comes to surveillance software. On a new car you even will have to pay extra for this black box that spy on you, with taxes added on top of it + VAT. And if it stops working ? You will have to pay for government to spy on you by replacing this box, with another round of taxes and VAT. This most likely will force me to buy a gas car next time....
Bought my Audi b9 in 2018 before they went to touch screens and it still has a hand toggle for the infotainment, analog dials, and the straight arch line across the body. Held off on buying a new one until they brought some or all of these features back. Now it looks like it’s the last classic and I’ll be keeping it forever.
I was looking to buy an Audi A3 2021. I was horrified to learn that VAG use the dreaded wet belt system that is used on the Ford Ecobooms. It's completely turned me off as well as the cheaper materials used in the interior. I cannot honestly think of a decent modern used car that I can buy for 23k, let alone a new one.
Absolutely spot on. Until about three months ago, I was the driver (not owner) of a new SUV. And I had been a new car driver for about the last seven years. But over the past few months almost everything you've listed in your video started to get to me. Long story short - I handed my one year old SUV back to the dealer, cleared the PCP and I now own a 14 year old Mini Cooper that cost the same as probably just a set of tyres for the newer car would have. It smells a little of oil in the mornings, the trim rattles and clunks a little, there's no room for shopping in the boot because that's where my 'emergency' toolkit lives, it's temperamental, it demands that I spend every spare minute laying under it putting something else that's failed right.....and I adore it. Suddenly, motoring is a tangible experience again and this cheeky little roller-skate puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. It's a feisty little terrier with an infectious bark (possibly down to the K & N filter that found its way into the engine bay) and because it's me turning the spanners on it, I know what every rattle and clunk relates to. It's never going to be (on paper) worth the time and money I'm putting into it but that's not what it's about. In all my years swapping one new car for the next I never really felt attached to any of them. But the Mini has quickly become one of the things that brightens my day and, yes, I do find myself turning around to look back at it when I park it - and I haven't done that with a car in years. Really good video. Thanks.
Absolutely disposable, cheap materials cheap quality, forgettable looks, ugly at that, MADE to break, sell your data, cost a small fortune, designed to get you on the debt hook just to break the second they get out of warranty, infuriating "features" NO ONE asked for that break anyway. No aux jacks or audio options that push you towards subscription services. GIANT SCREEN while you're trying to drive. Impossible to not use because ALL controls are in the screen now. (Select the specific temperature you want the car to be at instead of a simple mixer knob to control the heat) Impossible to service. $4000 headlight assemblies. I see anyone who buys new either as someone with a lot of money to stay on top of the newest car to float the warranty repairs, or a straight up sucker.
And still I am thinking about blowing 95% of ALL my money at 34 years old for a brand new 992.2 Carrera with my dream spec and just drive it till I die....even I know its silly I just want to do it 5 times a day and close the deal...did someone ever do something stupid (financially) but said "It was worth ist"?!
1. They are incredibly expensive. 2. They are certainly not value for money. 3. They depreciate at an astonishing rate. 4. They are of poor quality, especially for the money. 5. Maintenance, parts, and repairs are staggeringly expensive. 6. Have to use a dealer for maintenance and repairs, allowing the dealers endless opportunities to rip you off. 7. They are designed to break allowing for huge dealer profits from endless repairs. 8. They are loaded with useless features that inflate the purchase price and are incredibly expensive to repair. 9. They are overly complicated resulting in huge maintenance and repair bills. 10. They use small 4-cylinder engines, even on large heavy vehicles, which will not last. 11. The bodywork cannot handle even the slightest collision. Also, the parts and labor are incredibly expensive. 12. The huge costs of these vehicles are a prime reason why insurance rates for all of us have gone through the roof. Much of the above has always been true as new cars have always been a luxury for most. However, these vehicles are now so expensive they have effectively priced themselves out for the vast majority of people. The very well-built, fully paid-off old car that keeps on running is the best solution. I'll keep running mine and hope it never falls apart.
I used to own a Toyota Yaris 2022. Sold it and got a 2007 e class. Best decision I’ve made other than marrying my wife. 😂😂😂. Beautiful car lovely to drive and has a personality. I always loved cars but the w211 woke up my true love of cars.
Thanks for being so blunt and to the point. New cars are just another expensive necessary appliance that one needs, not something to get the blood pumping anymore. Older nice condition classics will undoubtedly soar in price and desirability!
I watched your talk yesterday. Today i have been having a nostalgia trip about my 1995 Audi S6. The one with the 5 cylinder motor and my one was a 6 speed manual. MTM worked as well so it was reasonably fast. Wore out the first set of tyres in 7000km. All the guys at the dealership congratulated me on driving it as was intended.
Thank you for this. All the things I have been saying you have expressed. I did buy a new car over a year ago because it was an Alpine A110 which is almost totally ol skool. It was the only new car in the market that took me back to my old days. Most important It has soul. Love it. It's probably my last new car purchase. 3:50
I have to agree... Even as a 24 year-old there are very few, if any, new cars that excite me. With the possible exception of the Revuelto and 12Cilindri (Italian V12's are still my guilty pleasure), I find myself yearning for the cars from the late 2000s and early 2010s and realising how little we appreciated them!
Apart from nostalgia, 80s' cars tried to squeeze the best performance with a given and limited budget whilst todays' cars have engines limited by regulation (emissions, young age limit, etc.) or sporty look castrated by safety laws, changing the car in a cozy living room
I just cannot sell my 2011 Lincoln Town car..(about 900 moving parts). Its the last year of the full frame cars and ha a V8 with factory duals and even a crossover pipe for low end torque...It pulls a trailer, wanders in the road a bit and has gone through 3 transmissions in 190,000 miles. But to replace it it would cost too much of my sailing budget, so...I just spent $40,000 on new engine, built transmission, all new sportier suspension, wheels, new leather interior, modern big screen stereo and it will be my baby for another 190,000 miles, Universe willing.
This year’s Cupra VZ5 will be the last new car I ever bought. Other members of the family (997.2 2S, 570S Spider, M4 F83, H-D Fat Boy, Indian FTR) will be maintained and taken care of for as long as I live. Regularly used new rental cars drive me crazy. Last week’s Sixt X3 M50, besides spending 10 minutes manually disabling all driving assistants via 6 sub-menues, even asked for reconnecting bluetooth every single time you start the car! The claimed 398 horses, however, were nowhere to be felt.
I have a Tesla Model Y sitting in my driveway next to my 2008 Honda Odyssey. I drive the Odyssey every day with a big smile plastered across my 60-year-old face. No modern tech at all and I love it that way. The Tesla turns its lonely eyes to me as I happily drive off in the Ody.
It’s crazy to say, but the Odyssey is actually fun to drive. New ones though are bizarrely expensive. And the Sienna is very cheap inside. Practically is seriously lacking nowadays. The terrible ergos of a Tesla make it stressful to drive.
@@davepaturno4290 I own a Boxster and rode sport bikes my whole life. I raced MTBs too. I know what fun is. And the Odyssey is a fun car. It happens to carry 7-8 passengers and all their luggage, tow a trailer and look kinda meh. But it drives like a big car. It has a V6 engine people tune for big power elsewhere. It’s its own kind of thing just like a Jeep is fun too but only off-road. You get your family all singing Disney songs and playing “punch bug” and all of that road trip stuff and realize miles are flying by. I owned a ‘76 VW camper van. That was fun too.
@@f.kieranfinney457 That's not "driving" fun; it's more "family togetherness" fun - totally different. I have a GR Supra and NC Miata with PRHT. Those are fun driving cars. Back in the day, we'd fit all of our bikes in a Nissan van for fun biking.
@@davepaturno4290 no. It’s both. Some vehicles just ‘have’ it. My Focus ST was more ‘fun’ than my Boxster even though the Boxster is faster. If you don’t get it, that’s ok.
@@davepaturno4290 What, I doubt it. Guards Red Porsche 944 is a classic, strong-looking design. It looks like a masculine sports car, has been in several movies, and the red catches a woman's attention. Maybe that is why ladies love it.
@JeremyDavis-jp4ep Sadly, it is slower than a V6 Camry, so not very impressive when compared to modern day sportscars. You can rent one of many sportscars for a day or more using Turo. Yhat's an inexpensive way to compare newer cars to what you remember as sporty.
@@davepaturno4290 Ohh, sounds like you are one of those, "anti-Enthusiasts", lol!! Well, I can expect to see people of your kind on these videos. Yes, a Lame-Wheel Drive, V6 Camry would be faster in a straight line than an 80's 944. However, the 944 is a beauty to drive, (I have in fact, driven one). Very good balance, great driving dynamics, race-car inspired clutch design, nimble, great steering feel, etc, etc. They had good reputations in autocross, amateur racing, backroads fans, etc. You can go back to your modern car videos "friend", lol!!
You made all the points on the way I feel about all these new vehicles, they have no charter or soul, this year I went to the NYC Auto Show, and the excitement is now all gone, the only part of the show I enjoyed was custom cars. Just the other day a person asked if I would be interested in selling my 98 Lexus GS 400, I told them it's not for sale
Absolutely spot on. 90's was the peak of cars. BMW had E39, E38 and E31, Mercedes had R129 and W140, Porsche had 964 and 993, Ferrari had 355 and even Audis were so cool in the 90's. And they looked a MILLION times better than their new counterparts.
@@LawrenceTimme True. They say 80's too but I'm a bit too young to remember that era properly. But I absolutely ADORE 90's cars like Porsche 993 and Ferrari 355. I can probably never afford them but man they made some great looking models.
EXACTLY why I am restoring my '93 MX-5 Miata and why my '63 VW Beetle Sedan is next. My daily driver is 13 years old, which feels a bit too new for me (a Chrysler minivan - one of the last user serviceable cars available over her in the Colonies). Excellent video. I laughed, partly because every word is true. Thank you! Michael in Champaign, Illinois, USA
"New cars are too expensive!" Says Demian with some Ferraris worth £1 million in the background. It's just a joke. I completely understand your point and agree with it. Beautiful video as always.
I'm fortunate enough to have been able to purchase a 2021 C8 Corvette. It's an amazing vehicle in many ways. It does not have a lot of the "nannies" he mentions and I often look at it several times after parking it.
"they have no soul" touche!❤ I agree, that's why i still have my 1993 peugeot 205 petrol, no automatics, nothing not even power steering, it is a joy to drive, you feel everything, you are in touch with the machine, i love driving that little thing, i completely rebuild this car 2 years ago and yes i keep replacing parts on the front suspension but i dont care its a gen X toy, and it makes me smile when i do i burnout in reverse 😂 or take a corner very fast and i can feel the exact moment when im about to loose traction thanks to the manual steering, just plain rack & pinion, i love simplicity, its small, very small, it is not comfortable, it's not supposed to be, its very low to the ground, not isolated , ypu hear everything, its snappy, and cheap! I can repair it with very little money, no computer crap, no scanner.
"You will own nothing and be happy."
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Damian laughing at this comment
Yes , fascist/communist world.
We disagree, RESIST
Damn Schwab!
The sad thing about this video is that every word of it is true.
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Yeah, as we age, we become collectors of reminders of our youth.
@@TheCarGuysTV The reason why I do not like modern hypercars is because they do not have a racing pedigree like hypercars of the late 90s and the 2000s had.
So, it is Not so sad 🙂 😀 🙂
💯 yes it's TRUE
Another factor on these cars is when they get hit: They're often 'totaled'. The establishment has forced industry to make cars that are no longer financially fixable and have too much technology in them. If it's not one thing it's another: The transmission computer is unhappy, the engine computer is unhappy, the door and window computer is unhappy, the radio computer is unhappy, the emissions controls are unhappy, the cooling system is having an existential crisis and that's making the transmission start to fail. The vehicle is in limp like you're handicapped mode. All of these problems can be easily fixed by buying an older (by >10 years car). I have an 08 Manual Focus and just repaired the front suspension: It handles like a new car. I'm through pissing money away on this environmental BS. Now if one travels to places like Bangladesh you will see them burning the insulation off of copper wire to reclaim it with absolutely NO CONCERN for the environment whatsoever. it's all elitist nonsense: It makes me want to burn a tire.
80s to early 2000s cars are reliable than those brand-new cars.
These new cars are a scam
Really depends on the car, though. There were many turds among them.
90s Mercedes were great, 2000s Mercedes horribly unreliable. And then they got better again around 2012.
I think 90s and 2000s are a matter of hit & miss. Gotta know what you're doing, do your homework, learn which models you should avoid.
And while I absolutely agree that new cars are complete SHITE,
I have to say that most of my favourite cars came out between 2009 and 2014. But then again... that was 10+ years ago.
So maybe those aren't "new" at all.
2009 to 2014 is the sweet spot for me. Awesome, awesome designs, the level of tech that is actually useful, SPEED and pretty great reliability.
The problem is the software and firmware that runs all the functions. It is not sufficiently debugged, tested and tried under real world conditions. The programmers likely never spent one day driving - if they know how to drive - so all the settings and behaviours are based on assumptions of ideal or near-ideal conditions. Human override has not been considered and is not built into the feature responses.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 I have a 2023 GLE450. Mechanically, outstanding. In terms of the features, ergonomics and stability of SW, it sucks. I have been to the dealer 7 times in 14 months, and after the first time the suggested that I don't understand technology, I told them what I do for a living and showed them videos of the problems. They changed their tune very quickly on the bugs, but there is not much they can do regarding bad design.
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 when I look at used Mercedes cars, 80's W126 S-Class interior leather and material looks way better in condition compared to 00's W220 S-Class. Despite 20 years of age gap, W220 interiors are literally decaying.
I 100% agree. New cars are terrible, they are disposable appliances.
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Yes, another item classified as “ white goods”, refrigerator, washing machine, microwave, car. Boring, computerised, sits in the corner until needed 🥱.
Love this video!! Totally agree. This year I bought a 2018 SL 65 AMG with a mere 5,000 miles for less than 1/2 of the original sticker. Yes - the last V-12 SL made (mine was 7 from the end) for less than a new well equipped pickup truck 😂😂😂. And it scores 💯 on the soul meter and it leaves diamond shaped imprints on my back when I floor it!
Amen, and i Never have bought a new car, and obviously i also Never will :-) 2 days ago I just bought a 1964 tractor 🙂
Exactly, you are intended to keep replacing your new cars much more frequently than old cars. New cars are not better for the environment, they just destroy the environment (and empty your wallet) in new ways
I don't agree with all your points, but the one which has recently caused me to buy a 4 year old car rather than a new one is the mandatory "safety" intervention stuff. The lane departure warning, lane keep assist, speed limit warning, automatic braking. On the roads I drive, the bongs are incessant, and the steering interventions downright dangerous. And all of these systems are the result of a paper written about 15 years' ago using no real world data, only modelling.
On my 4 year old car, I can turn these "safety" features off, and they stay off.
completely agree. One mine I have to turn them actively on to make use of them, they are off by default. I will try to keep this car for as long as possible
Lane departure management feature is a dreadful and dangerous function. I had it on in my new vehicle and when I tried to steer around an obstacle that was on the roadway, it tried to steer me back to the lane. Barely missed a collision. And in this vehicle it is mandatory when using cruise control.
@@pepinlebref7585 that is perfect!
@@franciscotoro9454 I wonder if there are any statistics on accidents caused by lane keep assist.
My 12 year old car has ABS, airbags, reversing sensors/camera, and cruise. That's it. Nothing to turn off, the only thing that beeps is the reversing sensor, it doesn't argue with me if I cross the white line at the apex of a bend, or swerve to miss debris or some whacking great pothole.
I've had two this-years model rentals in the last few months (CX5 and a Tucson), and they were both horrendous with driver distractions - the Mazda was hands down the worst in this regard.
100% dreading my next car buying experience because all that well-intentioned stuff is just way too obtrusive in the current crop.
This is why I keep my 1991 Toyota. 1. Cheap to maintain. 2. Easy to fix. 3. Doesn’t monitor where I go. 4. More fun to drive at 200k miles. 5. Manual transmission
Yep
A brand new distributor for old car is cheaper than 1 modern car tire.
‘91 Toyota Celica GT Four owner here. Enjoying every drive.
It's similar with my 06 Camry which is somewhere around 197500 miles. You think you're driving closer to 80 and then look down and realize you're only going 60 in a 65. 4 cylinder also means I was able to go 499 miles without the fuel light coming on, surprising me when I checked my notes.
its fixable
The bureaucrats in Brussels have destroyed the motor car. Unsafe safety features and getting rid of buttons and replacing with stupid huge tablet screens. Yet you can't use a mobile phone screen.
Fabulous video 100%.
The bureaucrats is Brussels are actually the reason why cars are safer. The bureaucrats is Brussels have nothing to do with screens their size or the absence of buttons. Have you have heard about Tesla? You don't seem to. Do you know which country headquarters Tesla? You don't seem to. Not everything single that bureaucrats anywhere (note: anywhere...) have done maybe positive but your opinion is biased and brainwash...
@@sixpotshot no thank you, the bureaucrats are 100% responsible
Regards the tablets that is of course the manufactures, they are doing it to offset inflationary pressures from the fiat currency printing machine & to save money due to all safety features they are installing to please the bureaucrats.
@@sixpotshot why are you even watching these videos? Go and watch some about the genius which is carbon capture or some other pie in the sky crap to make people like you all giddy. Governments and “bureaucrats” love your types. Perfect little sheep
@@popsbubbles1242 Yeah, no... put down your tinfoil hat... they add them because they sell cars, they make people go "ooh" in the dealership
It's not Brussels, it's the axis of evil that is the World Economic Forum + United Nations Agenda for Sustainable Development 2030.
Agenda = NO personal transport, not even EVs.
This guy is the most honest car reviewer I have heard. I suspect the other reviewers feel the same but don’t want to screw up their income source.
Thanks, Mike
So refreshing to see this openly talked about
Thank you
100% agreed. I had already decided that my current vehicle is the last new car I'll ever buy. I'm going back to proper steering and enjoyment rather than a car that brakes for me and sends data to an insurance company to raise my prices. Electronic steering? There so that the EU can mandate auto correct steering. Piss off. I'm out.
And is pre-programmed for geo-fencing when your governmet decides it's best for you.
100%
You are precisely correct on all counts…at the age of 70 I have purchased over 30 automobiles over the years including a ‘54 Chevy Coupe, ‘61 VW Beetle, ‘76 Triumph Spitfire (new), ‘72 Fairlady Z (in Japan), 84 Pontiac Fiero, 76 TR6, 07 Mini Cooper S, Acura TRX Type S, numerous vans/minivans, sedans, “kids” learners (one son totaled four), several motorcycles, …..you get the point. Some of these cars were dogs/losers, but EVERYONE of them had soul and great memories…..my current and sole VIC is a 2010 987.2 Boxster 6spd manual lightly modified and basically specd. To say it has soul and provides a great driving/driver’s experience is an understatement. And, yes, when I am walking away from it after a spirited run through the twisties or just a short trip to the coffee shop, I often stop to look back and smile. At 145k miles over 11 years it’s still running strong and getting me from point A to B, NEVER in a straight line!
I cannot like this video enough! You speak the absolute truth. And that’s why, after 12 years of lusting and dreaming, I bought my last car, a 2021 Audi TT RS. Engine, leather, looks, weight, physical buttons, and NO INFOTAINMENT screen. And yes, I look back and stare at it every single time.
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Disagree. Is more they are ultra expensive for what they offer
With such a car the driving experience IS all the entertainment you need.
I still love my manual Audi TT 2002
I did the same; this car ages so well with the timeless interior
Wow! I absolutely love this video and the dialogue - spot on. I couldn't agree more! Thanks for the video
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheCarGuysTV I hope you hand crafted all those images from scratch and did not use AI ... otherwise never complain about computers in cars again, including haptic feedback buttons.
Just sayin ... 😉
Well, I have never bought a new car in my life. I've always found fun performance cars to buy for half price to a quarter price of new 3 to 10 years after they were made. And then I keep them a long time and do my own repairs. This has included Mustang GTs when I was young, a 300ZX twin turbo, a Supra turbo, an E39 540i Sport, an E46 330i ZHP and more. Currently own an E60 535i M-Sport, E90 335i M-Sport, 997.2 C4S and Audi B8 S4 - every single one of those cars was/is a manual. Now I also admit to having a Tesla P90D because how else can I go 0-60 in 2.6 seconds while spending less than $50k. It makes a great, maintenance-free daily, though I don't actually daily it, I just rotate driving all my cars. Of course all those cars are quite pedestrian compared to the cars on this channel, but the point is you can do quite well buying pre-owned. Finally, I agree that I have no interest in most cars made much after 2015 for all the well-said reasons in the video.
Also, I nearly wept at the "this is what cars used to look like" segment
@@zakelwe not really comparable
I could not agree more! I still enjoy driving my 2006 Toyota 4Runner V8 Sport Edition. With no high tech, and knobs! And, it only has 44,000 and some change in original miles.
Huge screens on the dashboard while the engine gets smaller and smaller, many are hybrid or flat out electric. Classic, not plastic.
Plastic has its place like wheel arch panels - French cars tend to rust up less compared to Germ,an Cars but - yes inside, well keep it simple and elegant. I hate large screens near the dash.
Looking at a cheap 10year old car now myself - not interested in EV's or spy shuttles. Wish Car manufacturers would throw the gimmicks and get back to simple and reliable vehicles that can be easily maintained and fun to drive. Like with Sports motorcycles where a 20 year old motorcycle with some cheap modifications (mainly in suspension and a new front brake master cylinder) can smack down a 50k modern sports bike on the track. Don't want nanny aids - connectivity - or f-n winglets.🤡
I hate that screens have replaced analog dash knobs. One thing goes wrong on that digital dash and you loose a lot of function and therefore you NEED to move quickly fixing it. They are Service managers dream.
Those huge touch screens are much cheaper to make, but they cost much more then old school panel with 20 physical buttons and knobs. If it is not a scam then what ?
I think you are spot on. Cars are so boring . Plus waaay too expensive!!! Materials suck. It all sucks.
100% agree. They're are almost pathetic and I literally have a disdain for them.
Most likely recycled plastic interior, you're paying for garbage.
@WARDADDY72 Have you ever driven a McLaren or even a GR Supra? They are anything BUT boring, I can assure you.
Thats wonderful advice for the working man on a budget@@davepaturno4290
This is why this year I decided to get my Nissan Z instead of the Mustang GT. The Nissan has that "soul" the CarGuy refers to.
For starters, no longer making manual transmission make new cars abominable
New Supras and Miatas, amog some others are exceptions, although the ZF 8 auto trans in Sport mode in the Supra is highly addictive.
@@davepaturno4290As someo who's first car was an auto Miata....I would not wish that suffering on anyone, every Miata should be manual. I drive a manual Sentra now.
@fortheloveofnoise I agree. My 2008 Miata has a 6-speed manual transmission, upgraded suspension, intake system, exhaust, and lighting. Its most fun is when the top is down.
Shoutout to the 2025 Toyota GR86 & Subaru BRZ for coming standard with a great 6MT
What a brilliant video. Very sad. It’s not just cars but everything is going this way.
Policy. If you haven't joined the dots by now it's too late for you. You will own nothing....
For the past 6 years I’ve been driving a 2003 Corsa with no A/C, no P/S, no rev counter, no central locking & no radio. It does what it needs to do and costs me very little to maintain. New cars are just not worth their asking price.
when I drive the Mrs new MG4 it drives me nuts, constant beeping with collision warnings, lane keep assist yanking the steering wheel, over reliance on touch screen, stupidly slow to react adaptive lights. A true shitter
I would simply jist divorce a woman for buying an MG.
Same with any "british" chinese made shitboxes.
@@doug-core8850😂😂excellent comment , me too 😂🎉
Who built that car for you?
I bought a base level mini cooper ev and disabled the remaining nanny devices. Lane assist is a scourge.
What on earth possessed her to got one of those
Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.
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The junk yards will be full of unrepairable hi-tech vehicles. Think about how nearly impossible it is to fix a new refrigerator.
Agree, I have replaced every kitchen appliance in the last 5 years. Even if the failed part only costs pennies, you can’t take them apart, and specialist repair services cost more than a new appliance. Just like new cars.
The plan is you don't drive or move. They'll ban older cars. All one big agenda.
That's part of the plan, but they have already failed!
I live in the Netherlands. Small country, one might think, till you have to get somewhere. In my youth public transport would get you anywhere in reasonable time. Does days are gone.
I bought my son a Alfa GTV 1.8 twin spark (145 hp) from 1999. not in the best of shape, but we are working on it. Not long ago we made a trip trough the Benelux, to France, 1600 km to and from in a weekend. what a drive...
Next year we go to Italy in it, but first we have to exchange the leaking exhaust.. Though we love this sound. ;)
And that agenda is what exactly? Saving lives, reducing pollution, making cities walkable again, or some nefarious conspiracy you have in mind?
Obviously, I’m a car guy because I’m here, but I don’t understand these conspiracy theories about spooky bureaucrats trying to ruin our lives for their own amusement
says who?
@@albundy5992 I hope so 🙏🏼
Couldn't agree more.
I was about to say that. Plus...."you could try, but you wouldn't succeed".
My maths prof told us if he ever catches us buying a new car, he'd flunk us.
Totally agree. I'm deeply involved in a MB dealership and even for me there's not a single sexy car within the MB portfolio anymore. And other manufacturers aren't much better.... Also I never understood the trend of going towards touchscreens. I hate it.
Absolutely
Touch screens should be illegal in cars and here in Norway it is actually illegal to use the touch screen while driving (and courts just ruled that standing still with enigne of in a stand still que is driving and you get a fine for using the screen or phone while standing still). Using mobile phone or the cars touch screen while sitting in the car is now a 1.100 US $ fine in Norway now.
I think my gle 63 is beautiful 🤷🏾♂️ 😂
The S class is beautiful
@@Ben-fc3pi agreed, I also have s550 cabriolet I bought new in 2017 and I think it’s timeless design wise especially in my color combo (Ruby black/matching dark cherry top/designo white interior)
Your spot on Damian we’ve lost all the fun of car ownership with emission regulations strangling new car sounds that mute the exhaust so you don’t get that proper burble with rev limiters when sitting still, they’ve grown massively compared with the greatest hot hatch generation of the 80’s and 90’s that make them podgy with massive weight gains, electric power steering replacing hydraulic that makes them vague with absolutely no feel, stop/start don’t get me started with that nonsense. But as bad as cars have gotten it’s the roads that truly are a disgrace that could cost thousands to fix if you encounter a massive pot hole that destroys the suspension, tyres and wheels on your pride and joy when you want to go for a blast.
New "cars" no longer have tires.
It's not just the cars. The OEM parts are super expensive. The labour is expensive. The quality on those parts is declining. They are to expensive to maintain if you can't do 50% of the work yourself.
The quality of cars themselves have dropped so much that I don't think the mechanics really think of it as a labour of love. The quality workmanship isn't there. It's just patchwork to keep them running.
Those with bloody knuckles know what your talking about. And its true. AND, of those, you still need to find one who takes that pride and loves what they do. Rare find.
Labor has to be expensive! What do you think where all these tourists are coming from :))) Now even out of the season you simply can't live off these tourists. That's because everyone has a big salary now, at least in Europe and they are traveling all year long!
I know so many people that have recently sold their new/er cars and bought cars from 2008-2010 era. I myself was looking at new cars for so long, and I couldn't find anything that even slightly peaked my interest, let alone got me excited like older cars do. I'm happy to see this video, spot on. Also happy to see so many agreeing in the comments. We can only vote with our feet. The main issue is, not enough are. Thanks for the video.
Number 8: Every 2024 car and beyond has a nightmarish speed limiter that you have to jump through hoops to switch off. Most of the time, it gets the speed limits wrong too!
Nope. The Alpine A110 doesn't. 😎
They are dangerous when they get it wrong too. I had a brand new VW Golf rental car that braked from 70 down to 50mph on the A14 as it had been loaded with out of date speed limits from before the road was upgraded. It scared the hell out of me and it was lucky there was no-one behind. I couldn't work out initially what on earth was going on as my own car is ancient and doesn't have any of this nonsense. I have had similar dramas with lane assist trying to steer the car for me on a narrow country lane - insanely dangerous bit of tech! It is bureaucratic overreach and is counter productive and unnecessary.
this is very true!
A carly diagnostic device can delete it they can delete start/stop as well
They should just set to 70mph permanently not keep guessing what road and speed.
The new Corvette Z06 is one of the exceptions to this rule. Naturally aspirated, flat plane crank, amazing high-pitched exhaust symphony 670hp, crazy fast lap times. It's basically a modernized, better 458 Speciale.
Also the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing in the sports sedan market. Lotus Emira to an extent as well, though it lacks a bit in performance.
The problem with those that govern us and currently most car manufacturers don't understand that for most of us a car is an emotional purchase.
I don't want a utilitarian soulless hunk of recycled metal and plastic.
I want a car that makes me look over my shoulder and admire it after I have parked.
Amen
So we won’t see you in a new Jaguar anytime soon?
Er…
You will, but over on the new 2nd channel...TheCarGaysTV! 🤣
Dressed up like a Drag Queen??I drove (Didn't own) a XKE in the late 60's
Faguar
Im convinced this jag business is just viral marketing for a new zoolander movie
"they all look like bulba's committee designed politically correct Euro boxes
designed to move sedentary distracted perpetually offended zombies at government regulated speeds"... 🤣 this is priceless 😆
Totally agree I love driving and cars but new cars while "better" in every measurable way do absolutely nothing for me.
They not reliable , loads break down due to computer issues
New computerized transportation appliances are anything but better in every way. They are ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.
I am an old school car enthusiast as well. I only need aircon. (Cape Town is very hot during summer) and front electric windows,info from a basic trip computer and if possible, excellent sound quality. I particularly like small to medium coupe designs (think Audi TT, Peugeot 406 Coupe) or something practical like a Volvo XC70.
One of the few modern cars I think I would enjoy is an Alpine A110 (but unfortunately we don't get them in South Africa). Another normal modern car design that gets my attention is Mazda3 (cabin design is still leaning more towards old school, in my humble opinion).
I loved cars since I crawled and enjoy driving (most South Africans drive bland and boring SUV or Pick up trucks we call "Bakkie") as the driving experience, the feel of the road under my arse, especially when cornering is a joyous sensation (at legal speed). To me, driving symbolise freedom. I am not sure how long it will be, before this experience will be taken away from us. But for now, we keep on enjoying the ability to drive cars.
New cars contribute to landfill faster, making their shorer life and environmental footprint t questionable. Let alone the tech reliability and cost to the consumer.
I disagree car's truck's or anything made after 2015 is trash and just as reliable as a drunk who never shows up for work. I have been in the industry for 28 years I work for Toyota and I can tell you today's Toyota is a sad joke compaired to anything we have made after 2015 all do to greed and the American managment who have put profit over quality we start out making a great launch vehicle buy the end of that year its a completely different vehicle do to cheap third part parts we are forced to look for cost reduction and we start out with the components and all the plastics that are going to fail sooner reather then later all by design. They are not safer if anything there dangerous do to everything being controled by a computer that is going to fail putting your life on the line if the computers fail as your on the motor way yeah your breaks dont work you cant stear it all do to the componetsa failing because the computers are inop.
I honestly can't see why anyone would take the hit on buying a new car anyway let alone the soulless offerings we have today.
I only lost $13,000 (AUD) over 7 years of owning my focus RS from new. 5 years of warranty I made good use of and even made claims a year out of warranty. Eventually ford didn’t want to know about the car so I decided off loaded it to a dealer for a price I was happy with. Approximately $1857 a year it cost me in depreciation which was good value for performance I think. 10+ track days without fault. I made good use of it.
@jollibee_racer try doing that these days
Some people are so rich that they don't give a toss.
The annual deprecation hit isn’t so much if you keep them for over 5 years, or 10 years like me. Also you don’t expect to have repair bills for several years and all wearing parts are brand new at the time you buy a new car. There should be lots of benefits when buying a new car. But they are all offset by the other downsides mentioned in this video.
Most new cars, to not say all, aren’t cars anymore, they are smartphones on wheels.
Very well said.
I agree with everything you say in this video Adrian. I won't be buying a new car again, even if I could afford one. I live in New Zealand and New car prices are ridiculous.
Who’s Adrian?
The value add of NZ dealers ripoff prices is that they are saving you the effort of choosing any options or even the colour of the only car they have in stock.
I have never felt so identified with a car enthusiast thinking before. And what you said about electric cars? Wao my exact words over the past 5 years. So good to see this!
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I bought a new car one time in 1999. It was a Toyota Tacoma and it’s still running today. No need to buy another one.😊
The secret is to have 2 cars. One that is efficient, safe, comfortable, reliable and cheap to run. The other without all the bells and whistles that offer a contrast between the two. Would also be nice to replicate with 2 wives😂
Can have 4 wives if you are a muslim. Why do you think they are against it. Also divorce is easy too, just kick her out and give her some money you both agreed on before you tied the knot.
This is why I now daily drive a 1996 Mercedes diesel wagon and also own a 1991 190E for some fun.
That's what i did , Q5 V6 Tdi and BMW Z3 1.9
No. That means two mothers in law.
Yup, I've got a Porsche Macan for bad weather, long drives and towing, and a Porsche Cayman 6-speed for all the rest
Totally agree - it’s something I talk to my car friends about all the time these days. I’ll keep my analogue naturally aspirated cars until either they break or I do. Hit the nail so squarely on the head it’s uncanny. Well batted sir!
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"perpetually offended zombies" LOL! Brilliant!
@19:45 you nailed it. My mate took me for a spin in his Tesla today. It was very impressive, and goes like a stabbed rat, but it isn't as comfy as my 1990 Mercedes. I love that thing. Her name is Brenda. It's amazing how many people come up and say " They don't make 'em like that anymore". Keep it up lad!
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How to get on the WEF blacklist in two easy steps.
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@@TheCarGuysTV Jokes aside, totally agree with you btw :D
What is this "Blacklist" and what happens when you are on it?
@@HKFunster It’s partly a joke, but partly it’s a reference to the ESG score which mainly companies need to follow. Which is a similar-to- social credit score. Look it up, there’s plenty of info on it both online but also on youtube.
The girlfriend had a VW id3, horrible car. things kept going wrong with it, the dealers were useless, Lack of physical switches, Horrible interface and really poor build quality.
Bought a brand new Dacia Duster in 2020. Loved it and was all the car I needed at first. Problem is when I started noticing production defects. Kept going back to the dealer and they couldn't solve them. Started going to a different dealer. The last straw was when I was without the car for a whole month, because some dumb PLASTIC gearbox bushing broke at about 15 thousand miles and I had to threaten Dacia/Renault with a contract resolution for them to finally fix it. Sold the car as soon as I got it back. Never again.
100% spot on. It saddens me being a petrolhead and having zero interest in latest generation of cars. Another point could have been the amount of models and variants each manufacturer sell now, it's unreal, porsche are one of the worst
Porsche has pretty much perfected the brilliant strategy of making a variant of the legacy model to suit almost all tastes, if not pockets. There are very real differences in driving behaviour, civility, and degrees of practicality between all of those neun-elfers. 👽⛽
1:53 Gen X here. You are bang on the money here. 70s and 80s cars are too old, modern cars are boring as hell.
For us folk looking at normal fun cars , I’d say the demise started when they started putting in the opf filters … so from 2018/19 onwards .. then came the removal of physical buttons and then all the mandatory safety features …. I now look to by cars pre 2018 . My 2016 Porsche spyder has soul , character, no stop start , no lane waning , physical buttons and is everything I want in a car .
Agreed
in 20 years you will say the same about cars from 2030
@@1marcelfilms No, that's the whole point. We won't.
You absolutely nailed it. I recently leased a BMW M44Oi and although it's fast and has some interesting piped in noise, it does nothing for me. Everything is controlled by a giant distracting screen and it feels so large and lifeless. My brother just happened to give my daughter a 2005 Acura 3.2 CL when she got her drivers license, I have to say I the Acura has so much more soul, its amazing to drive at legal speed, smells like old leather, has a thin rimmed steering wheel, buttons and stalks that click and the overall quality of materials is just fantastic. I didn't realize how good older cars were until I experienced going back in time.
"Have No Soul". You absolutely nailed the entire video, but the lack of soul and the surveillance issues with newer cars drove me to purchase a 2003 Corvette here in the U.S. It certainly is not perfect, but the visceral driving experience makes it all worth while.
It’s all a bit “Emperor’s New Clothes” lately. Every car looks the same due to drag coefficient, yet the car is incapable of legally reaching the speeds anyway.
The replacement of manufacturers badge for a sticker is hilarious. The weight saving would be negated if the driver ate a biscuit prior to getting in.
Embrace the classics!
Thanks for the Video, excellent as always.
It would be nice beccause you can remove the sticker and not have a badge placeholder moulding
I love my 1970 chevelle SS and yes , I do look back after I park it and walk toward the front door !!!
Thanks for the vid, Be well !
I realized this 10 years ago. My newest daily driver being a 17 y/o V-12 powered behemoth.
For costs and privacy concerns alone I already decided to refrain from buying a new car ever again. I drive a Kia, from 2011, and a Beetle from 1966, and I'm totally fine with that.
2:45 I really want a Mercedes Benz in that size and price range, but I can’t get past that styling. It’s like the designers have decided that the appearance of a car is no longer relevant at all. Most Mercedes Benz cars are quite ugly but the GLB is by far the ugly winner 😂
Exactly, 100% you have nailed it mate. No new Lambo or even ferrari is appealing. :(
I’m in the U.S. and I realized the same about Porsches a few years ago (2019) when the dealers started asking for outrageous mark-ups on the GT cars. Since then, I’ve written down what I want to own and only a couple are modern cars - the Ferrari 296 is an unbelievably flexible package - daily driver and a high performance super car and if I could get a Porsche GT4 RS at sticker price, I would). For perspective, I think I am somewhat comparable to the Car Guys because I’ve been buying sports cars since I was 27. I have a few sports cars that I bought new and still own: a 458 Speciale, a 997.2 GT3, a 991.1 GT3 RS and a 993 C2S.
Fully agree on the 296
LOVE those 60s US Muscle Cars. 1967 Pontiac GTO. That V8 sound......Just wonderful.....
I am keeping my 2020 v8 Jeep forever.
No engine stop-go
Are you a wealth inheriter?
@@arxeiapersonal8109No, self made. Made decent money and invested well in the equity market.
This black box alone will make me look for an old car (before 2017) when my EV needs replacement. And my EV (ZS EV) even is of a primitive one when it comes to surveillance software. On a new car you even will have to pay extra for this black box that spy on you, with taxes added on top of it + VAT. And if it stops working ? You will have to pay for government to spy on you by replacing this box, with another round of taxes and VAT. This most likely will force me to buy a gas car next time....
I couldn't even afford 1new Ferrari wing mirror... without the bloody mirror😂
Bought my Audi b9 in 2018 before they went to touch screens and it still has a hand toggle for the infotainment, analog dials, and the straight arch line across the body. Held off on buying a new one until they brought some or all of these features back. Now it looks like it’s the last classic and I’ll be keeping it forever.
I was looking to buy an Audi A3 2021. I was horrified to learn that VAG use the dreaded wet belt system that is used on the Ford Ecobooms. It's completely turned me off as well as the cheaper materials used in the interior. I cannot honestly think of a decent modern used car that I can buy for 23k, let alone a new one.
Absolutely spot on. Until about three months ago, I was the driver (not owner) of a new SUV. And I had been a new car driver for about the last seven years. But over the past few months almost everything you've listed in your video started to get to me. Long story short - I handed my one year old SUV back to the dealer, cleared the PCP and I now own a 14 year old Mini Cooper that cost the same as probably just a set of tyres for the newer car would have. It smells a little of oil in the mornings, the trim rattles and clunks a little, there's no room for shopping in the boot because that's where my 'emergency' toolkit lives, it's temperamental, it demands that I spend every spare minute laying under it putting something else that's failed right.....and I adore it.
Suddenly, motoring is a tangible experience again and this cheeky little roller-skate puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. It's a feisty little terrier with an infectious bark (possibly down to the K & N filter that found its way into the engine bay) and because it's me turning the spanners on it, I know what every rattle and clunk relates to.
It's never going to be (on paper) worth the time and money I'm putting into it but that's not what it's about. In all my years swapping one new car for the next I never really felt attached to any of them. But the Mini has quickly become one of the things that brightens my day and, yes, I do find myself turning around to look back at it when I park it - and I haven't done that with a car in years.
Really good video. Thanks.
Absolutely disposable, cheap materials cheap quality, forgettable looks, ugly at that, MADE to break, sell your data, cost a small fortune, designed to get you on the debt hook just to break the second they get out of warranty, infuriating "features" NO ONE asked for that break anyway. No aux jacks or audio options that push you towards subscription services. GIANT SCREEN while you're trying to drive. Impossible to not use because ALL controls are in the screen now. (Select the specific temperature you want the car to be at instead of a simple mixer knob to control the heat) Impossible to service. $4000 headlight assemblies. I see anyone who buys new either as someone with a lot of money to stay on top of the newest car to float the warranty repairs, or a straight up sucker.
100% agree
Also size and weight on sports cars havé gone way up.
Just look at old vs new 911’s.
And still I am thinking about blowing 95% of ALL my money at 34 years old for a brand new 992.2 Carrera with my dream spec and just drive it till I die....even I know its silly I just want to do it 5 times a day and close the deal...did someone ever do something stupid (financially) but said "It was worth ist"?!
1. They are incredibly expensive.
2. They are certainly not value for money.
3. They depreciate at an astonishing rate.
4. They are of poor quality, especially for the money.
5. Maintenance, parts, and repairs are staggeringly expensive.
6. Have to use a dealer for maintenance and repairs, allowing the dealers endless opportunities to rip you off.
7. They are designed to break allowing for huge dealer profits from endless repairs.
8. They are loaded with useless features that inflate the purchase price and are incredibly expensive to repair.
9. They are overly complicated resulting in huge maintenance and repair bills.
10. They use small 4-cylinder engines, even on large heavy vehicles, which will not last.
11. The bodywork cannot handle even the slightest collision. Also, the parts and labor are incredibly expensive.
12. The huge costs of these vehicles are a prime reason why insurance rates for all of us have gone through the roof.
Much of the above has always been true as new cars have always been a luxury for most. However, these vehicles are now so expensive they have effectively priced themselves out for the vast majority of people.
The very well-built, fully paid-off old car that keeps on running is the best solution. I'll keep running mine and hope it never falls apart.
Spot on Damian. Couldn't agree more. I'm happy I lived an era where I liked new cars. Now its just a disgrace
I used to own a Toyota Yaris 2022. Sold it and got a 2007 e class. Best decision I’ve made other than marrying my wife. 😂😂😂. Beautiful car lovely to drive and has a personality. I always loved cars but the w211 woke up my true love of cars.
As a person who 6 months ago bought Honda Accord Type-S Touring, made in the distant 2003... I fully agree! Cheers mate!
Nice one
New cars are just trash.
Thanks for being so blunt and to the point. New cars are just another expensive necessary appliance that one needs, not something to get the blood pumping anymore. Older nice condition classics will undoubtedly soar in price and desirability!
You are so right, cars are going towards autonomous driving boxes and it’s really sad.
Tragic
Dieses Video bringt die vielen Probleme moderner Autos auf den Punkt.
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I watched your talk yesterday. Today i have been having a nostalgia trip about my 1995 Audi S6. The one with the 5 cylinder motor and my one was a 6 speed manual. MTM worked as well so it was reasonably fast. Wore out the first set of tyres in 7000km. All the guys at the dealership congratulated me on driving it as was intended.
I love my 1976 MG Midget that I've owned over 40 years. Lotza soul! ❤
Thank you for this. All the things I have been saying you have expressed. I did buy a new car over a year ago because it was an Alpine A110 which is almost totally ol skool. It was the only new car in the market that took me back to my old days. Most important It has soul. Love it. It's probably my last new car purchase. 3:50
Thanks for sharing!
still driving my 1989 Chevy Cheyenne, v6 auto trans. Take care of them and they’ll take care of you ❤
and, i have another built (carbureted) engine and rebuilt transmission at the ready as well as the accessories. easy peasy 😉
I have to agree... Even as a 24 year-old there are very few, if any, new cars that excite me. With the possible exception of the Revuelto and 12Cilindri (Italian V12's are still my guilty pleasure), I find myself yearning for the cars from the late 2000s and early 2010s and realising how little we appreciated them!
Interesting. I thought only old guys, like me share the opinion of Damian
@@daggidding4478 gen z seem to love old cars especially jdms.
Apart from nostalgia, 80s' cars tried to squeeze the best performance with a given and limited budget whilst todays' cars have engines limited by regulation (emissions, young age limit, etc.) or sporty look castrated by safety laws, changing the car in a cozy living room
I just cannot sell my 2011 Lincoln Town car..(about 900 moving parts). Its the last year of the full frame cars and ha a V8 with factory duals and even a crossover pipe for low end torque...It pulls a trailer, wanders in the road a bit and has gone through 3 transmissions in 190,000 miles. But to replace it it would cost too much of my sailing budget, so...I just spent $40,000 on new engine, built transmission, all new sportier suspension, wheels, new leather interior, modern big screen stereo and it will be my baby for another 190,000 miles, Universe willing.
Very true and brilliantly presented points. Spot-on the message and your graphics a delight.
Thank you kindly!
😂 felt that one; brilliant! You missed the fact that it wants to kill not because you’re having fun but because it is hallucinating
This year’s Cupra VZ5 will be the last new car I ever bought. Other members of the family (997.2 2S, 570S Spider, M4 F83, H-D Fat Boy, Indian FTR) will be maintained and taken care of for as long as I live.
Regularly used new rental cars drive me crazy. Last week’s Sixt X3 M50, besides spending 10 minutes manually disabling all driving assistants via 6 sub-menues, even asked for reconnecting bluetooth every single time you start the car! The claimed 398 horses, however, were nowhere to be felt.
I have a Tesla Model Y sitting in my driveway next to my 2008 Honda Odyssey. I drive the Odyssey every day with a big smile plastered across my 60-year-old face. No modern tech at all and I love it that way. The Tesla turns its lonely eyes to me as I happily drive off in the Ody.
It’s crazy to say, but the Odyssey is actually fun to drive. New ones though are bizarrely expensive. And the Sienna is very cheap inside. Practically is seriously lacking nowadays. The terrible ergos of a Tesla make it stressful to drive.
@@f.kieranfinney457You guys need to drive a fun sportscar. I would never describe a van or SUV as "fun to drive".
@@davepaturno4290 I own a Boxster and rode sport bikes my whole life. I raced MTBs too. I know what fun is. And the Odyssey is a fun car. It happens to carry 7-8 passengers and all their luggage, tow a trailer and look kinda meh. But it drives like a big car. It has a V6 engine people tune for big power elsewhere. It’s its own kind of thing just like a Jeep is fun too but only off-road. You get your family all singing Disney songs and playing “punch bug” and all of that road trip stuff and realize miles are flying by.
I owned a ‘76 VW camper van. That was fun too.
@@f.kieranfinney457 That's not "driving" fun; it's more "family togetherness" fun - totally different. I have a GR Supra and NC Miata with PRHT. Those are fun driving cars. Back in the day, we'd fit all of our bikes in a Nissan van for fun biking.
@@davepaturno4290 no. It’s both. Some vehicles just ‘have’ it. My Focus ST was more ‘fun’ than my Boxster even though the Boxster is faster. If you don’t get it, that’s ok.
Every day I get down on my knees and thank The Lord that I have never had to face this terrible dilemma. 🙏🏽
Spot on Sir. Regards from Gotland.Drives a SAAB 9000 -95. This Car has a soul and it goes forever !
Your videos are you usually fairly good and creative, but this one is on a different level! Well done!
Wow, thanks!
The dumbest thing I ever did in my life was get rid of my chick magnet, my red 1985 Porsche 944.
I don't think it would be a chick magnet, today.
@@davepaturno4290 What, I doubt it. Guards Red Porsche 944 is a classic, strong-looking design. It looks like a masculine sports car, has been in several movies, and the red catches a woman's attention. Maybe that is why ladies love it.
@JeremyDavis-jp4ep Sadly, it is slower than a V6 Camry, so not very impressive when compared to modern day sportscars. You can rent one of many sportscars for a day or more using Turo. Yhat's an inexpensive way to compare newer cars to what you remember as sporty.
@@davepaturno4290 Ohh, sounds like you are one of those, "anti-Enthusiasts", lol!! Well, I can expect to see people of your kind on these videos. Yes, a Lame-Wheel Drive, V6 Camry would be faster in a straight line than an 80's 944. However, the 944 is a beauty to drive, (I have in fact, driven one). Very good balance, great driving dynamics, race-car inspired clutch design, nimble, great steering feel, etc, etc. They had good reputations in autocross, amateur racing, backroads fans, etc. You can go back to your modern car videos "friend", lol!!
@@kirkyoung4642 fantastic car mate!!
You made all the points on the way I feel about all these new vehicles, they have no charter or soul, this year I went to the NYC Auto Show, and the excitement is now all gone, the only part of the show I enjoyed was custom cars. Just the other day a person asked if I would be interested in selling my 98 Lexus GS 400, I told them it's not for sale
Absolutely spot on. 90's was the peak of cars. BMW had E39, E38 and E31, Mercedes had R129 and W140, Porsche had 964 and 993, Ferrari had 355 and even Audis were so cool in the 90's. And they looked a MILLION times better than their new counterparts.
The 1990's was the peak of human civilization, never mind cars.
@@LawrenceTimme True. They say 80's too but I'm a bit too young to remember that era properly. But I absolutely ADORE 90's cars like Porsche 993 and Ferrari 355. I can probably never afford them but man they made some great looking models.
Ferrari had F50
@@michaeltrumph121 Yes. But do you think it was cooler than F40? Most people don't but I actually find F50 much better looking.
GO BLUES!
Everytime I park up my black and gold Abarth 595 I always turn back at least twice to admire its unique styling. Also that Abarth exhaust sound.
Feeling fast while Going slow FOR THE WIN
EXACTLY why I am restoring my '93 MX-5 Miata and why my '63 VW Beetle Sedan is next. My daily driver is 13 years old, which feels a bit too new for me (a Chrysler minivan - one of the last user serviceable cars available over her in the Colonies). Excellent video. I laughed, partly because every word is true. Thank you! Michael in Champaign, Illinois, USA
Well '63 beetle is a bit too old. '77 camaro maybe a sweet spot
i can't stand totally electronic dashboards and the key less start - plus you can't work on a modern car unless you have a $25K jig and a lift
"New cars are too expensive!" Says Demian with some Ferraris worth £1 million in the background.
It's just a joke. I completely understand your point and agree with it. Beautiful video as always.
Fair enough!
Your boyfriend Carl Marx sure liked money - other people's money.
And are you little jelly like all commies?
I'm fortunate enough to have been able to purchase a 2021 C8 Corvette. It's an amazing vehicle in many ways. It does not have a lot of the "nannies" he mentions and I often look at it several times after parking it.
100% agree with everything here. Great content 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you
"they have no soul" touche!❤ I agree, that's why i still have my 1993 peugeot 205 petrol, no automatics, nothing not even power steering, it is a joy to drive, you feel everything, you are in touch with the machine, i love driving that little thing, i completely rebuild this car 2 years ago and yes i keep replacing parts on the front suspension but i dont care its a gen X toy, and it makes me smile when i do i burnout in reverse 😂 or take a corner very fast and i can feel the exact moment when im about to loose traction thanks to the manual steering, just plain rack & pinion, i love simplicity, its small, very small, it is not comfortable, it's not supposed to be, its very low to the ground, not isolated , ypu hear everything, its snappy, and cheap! I can repair it with very little money, no computer crap, no scanner.