@@citizensauto No idea! To me it seems the US is beyond repair...too many guns & too much glamorization of violence ingrained into the culture. I don't see any solution other than more cops, unless there's a drastic reduction in poverty & a firearm amnesty, & probably legalisation of drugs (none of which will happen).
@@citizensauto Better educational opportunities in K-12 for underprivileged communities. That’s the long term solution. Short term: I’m as stumped as you
Big salaries to walk around the hood and pretend to do something while the cameras roll. In the mean time gang violence is skyrocketing. Must be the easiest money the “ex-gang-members” have ever made
@John Sno everybody brings up isolated police shootings but then ignored the countless killing everyday from gangs and the music all day telling people to participate in this . We’ve tried this stuff before it was called cease fire , and it was marked by corruption and inefficiency
defunding the police means to use the money in stuff like schools. if kids stay in school they won't need to do crime or have the time to get involved with gangs. police only come WHEN the crime happens edit: i was using school as an example. there are many industries under the government that can use the money
@@janaekelis They do plenty of community policing, but a lot of these kids are taught no to trust the police to start with so I'd say the fix to the problem starts at home, not with the police.
I live in Chicago and it will never change with the people we have in charge.The city needs aggressive police and harsher sentences for violent offenders.
teach them properly as kids... but now the gangsters breed so fast that the kids aspire to be like daddy who is usually dead by this time... but yh go ahead and defund police n watch hells gate open
@@williambishop4737 just a question, do you feel bad for the kids, teens, and young adults(the ones that just aged out of teen hood.) in these environments? I would like to hear your thoughts.
@@mrtrel9232 you act like they cant do anything to not be a gangster, we all have choices we just gotta make the right ones, no one makes you take another's life not even your environment, its a personal choice you gotta make, yea we are all killers and have the capabilities of it, but these "kids" don't have the moral compass to choose between self defense and murder.
@@bobvanderbuilt7680 There are no violent Republican ran cities in America. Look at the most deadly and crime riddled cities. They all have Democratic leadership.
@@rachelquaye-asamoah5386 That couldn't be more true. I was watching this black conservative who was being quite critical of CRT, and the black leftists started calling him ''Uncle Tom'' and all kinds of shitty names. But at the end of the day, who cares? Those black leftists are uneducated (most of the time), they don't have any historical knowledge, nor do they have any developed critical thinking (they're not even trying to develop it). It's sad to see.
@@brodik6207 A sickness that caused the whole country to shut down, making people getting locked at home, who in turn develop stress/mental issues and in turn are more likely to resort to violence. It's not the sickness that cause increase in crime, but rather the butterfly effect it caused. This affect people with low income a lot because they are the most vulnerable population.
@@vanlao6367 understandable, but wouldn’t the lack of a police presence also tie into the increase of crime ??. I’m not saying an authoritarian appearance is ideal, but you need some authority ??.
@@brodik6207 Surprisingly, all police officers are also human, meaning they also care about their own life before their duty. You can increase or decrease police funding, but if no officers dare to patrol poor/ghetto neighborhoods, then it's still a waste of money in the end. How can a regular cop dare to patrol poor neighborhood every day, when even his/her chief won't do so ? The top has to make an example, but when even they are scared of going on patrol, then the rest also follow suit. And statistics proved that officers who patrol in the ghettos has lower life expectancy than their colleagues.
@Noah Bodze Wrong, what they are saying is she's an angel walking like the term "Dead man walking" This woman wants to make a positive change but the more conflicts she puts herself in the middle of the greater her chances are of her dying of a gun shot wound.
@Noah Bodze 🤣😂 That's your comeback? I swear you people deflect so much & refuse to see what is in front of you & the actual facts. She is a dead woman walking. As if she is walking the line, death row & she never knows when it's coming. That's why she was shaking. Until it is a stray bullet that lands in your parents head, your brother, sister or family members head, only then will it matter, mean something & suddenly you will want something done & some justice. I don't speak lies & those who are offended by my words only get offended because it's the damn truth.
Police or no police the violence runs incredibly deep and is a very complicated issue. Politicians on both sides always act like they know the answers when they don't know the first thing about street politics. I applaud this woman and pray for her safety because we need real leaders that truly understand these conflicts in order to make real change. Her way of doing it won't stop all the violence of course but it's the fact that she's trying that matters. No one has the right answer you only need the right effort that comes from the heart
@@emanueljames7801 could be any number of reasons who really knows at this point. It's like Romeo and Juliette where you have to warring factions that have hated each other for generations and lose sight of the real reason they're fighting. But with Chicago it's like 100 different gangs, that have different issues with each other, and it's kind of hard to convince someone not to hate the opposition when a lot of these kids have lost family members to gun violence before they were even born.
I had to move out Chicago with my parents, due to the gang violence. I literally lost all my child hood friends due to cross fires and gang activity. I’m only 21, and at that time I was 6-9yrs old. Sadly I believe there will never be peace in Chicago.
I think they should open more boxing and mma gyms in Chicago. It will give kids something to do besides gang life and I think it will lead to people using their fists to solve their problems instead of picking up guns to solve their problems
I don’t think that will work. Gun control in Chicago is out of control. You can purchase guns with no stress. It’s that simple. The violence gets to deep till the point, one another wants to kill each other.
She doesn’t want a hug. She wants the men to protect and provide for her in the community. Blk men don’t care who die on the frontlines. I could never .
I can agree to that. However how are you going to stop the current vicious circle of Kids getting drafted into gangs, becoming violent offenders and going to jail, just for the next generation to have no valid role models and become drafted into gangs again, etc. You need to break that, and even if it won't be pretty, you need a police with the necessary authority for that.
I wouldn't believe any of this was real if they had used names and gone running up to film people. The fact that we got sky shots and whatshisname is why a kept watching.
I really love how the people behind violence prevention do recognize that the two professions (policing and violence prevention) compliment one another and wouldn’t work if the other didn’t exist.
@@qriosity9265 Every society has had a form of policing. It as essential a function as farming and construction. The Romans had the Praetorian Guard (who performed many functions outside of policing and were notoriously corrupt), the Athenians had the Hoplites (loose bands of citizens hired to maintain order and patrol public areas), the Spartans had the Homoioi (basically their military), the European societies of the Middle Ages had bailiffs, reeves, and yeomen (all of which are titles still used today), and Feudal Japan had the Samurai (the lesser samurai would often patrol their liege-lords estates and police the local farms and villages). Police exist for a reason. Though often authority becomes easily corrupted, it is an essential role in society because humans are social animals and therefore need social structure (like wolves, chimpanzees, and gorillas). While good people can be found everywhere, like those in violence prevention programs, so can bad people, like those who kill over petty gang feuds and those who abuse authority. Not all police are bad, but not all are good. Not all criminals have evil intent, but neither are all doing it merely as a means to survive. As long as humans wrong and abuse another, a system of reprimanding offenders needs to exist. Policing is the most obvious solution, but because police officers are human, they cannot be perfect either. Get what I am saying yet (I’ve reiterated it three times now)?
@@THISDICFOO It would have been good if the documentary had gone into what that extra funding would’ve done for the violence prevention program. The reason they compliment another is because violence prevention can be the preventive measure taken to avoid violence, but once violence has already began, then police need to be involved (instead of unarmed negotiators).
@@boolosboi7503bro you just said "not all criminals have evil intent, but neither are doing it as a means to survive" But.there are hundreds of criminals who have long history criminal track record which needs to be checked. Immediate crimes, short crimes and even dangerous crimes all need policing to be ckecked. Without which the society will be anarchic. The police are the most important foundation of first line defence. If there's no police entire society would be in a mess. Suppose you have murder and robbery at your home, you would need immediate professional assistance from someone specialised. You won't have anytime to figure out the intention of criminals and yada yada but your immediate thought would be to protect your family.
Even with the police there’s still a lot of shootings and violence going on. 25% of murders are solved in Chicago. It’s not because the police is defunded. But be stupid.
Chicago needs to open up more boxing and mma gyms for the youth. That way people will be more likely to settle their differences with their fists instead of settling their differences with guns
Every person in power claims to do so yet have we seen any results? Have we seen any education programs? No. These people along with government officials are fools if they don’t see that
Feminism and left week politics in general have been poison. They don’t want to hear about the family unit. They definitely don’t want to hear about cultural issues.
I love the fact she is taking responsibility for her community and her actions, I just hope the nature of her work does not lead to her demise. She seems like good people. Need more like her.
Honestly, what do you think would happen if we just legalized drugs. What would these gangs even fight over? You and I have the common sense not to take ecstasy ever morning and die from a heart attack, so why do we care if the government enforces this or not? In my opinion, the amount of money going into policing and the growth lost from this violence is not worth it. Rather have a 2% of the population be legal addicts than 2% of the population slinging crack and turning the country into Chiraq.
@@senanb1 ah yes, once people have money they will all sit around and sing kumbaya. *Newsflash* bad people will always exist in every facet of society, rich, poor, black, white, etc.
We as Chicagoans need to work together to make our neighborhoods safe. Enough is enough people. We can’t let gangs or corrupt politicians get the better of us. Vote in people who care about this city and it’s people.
You are correct, but Chicago is determined to be another Detroit. It’s sad, what was a beautiful city just a few years ago now is almost all ghetto. It’s not safe to go anywhere there. The democrats have nothing to offer except failure
We need more police, not less. We need tougher cops out there ensuring the peace, doing stop-and-frisk, and punishing the criminals a lot more harshly, in addition to forcibly taking all the guns of known or suspected criminals. The people who don't speak up about suspected criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, without the possibility of parole.
Like how principals always claim fights in school are almost non existent, when all the real fights happen at a park down the street. Where there is no security or teachers to break it up.
@@alerios5110 Well, not really. Even according to their own posted data during the video violent crime rates have kept growing during their time spent doing it. That is generally a clue that things are not working as planned when the statistical data is doing the exact opposite of what your program intended for it to do.
Chicago's history has been filled with a lot of crippling social conditions due to segregation, racial tensions, and A LOT of gun proliferation. In order for meaningful change in Chicago, there needs to be a crucial wartime effort to develop the local economy, education, property, social programs, and mental health care to help them cope with the trauma. The police also have a vital role as well. Yet more importantly, we have to accept that the gangs there are too ingrained in Chicago's identity to be fully dispersed, thus they need to be integrated in the community in some form or fashion. So much work needs to be done.
@@joseureste8257 I have my own laundry list of pros and cons with the democrats, but one thing I can say is that the dems from 50 years ago were much different from modern democrats of today before the party platform switch during the Nixon convention in the late 60s. Ironically, much of the segregation and red zoning policies implemented back in the day were done by the old school democrats. The important thing now is to come up with new methods and thinking to address the endemic violence.
There is no feasible way to integrate the gangs, in there current form they are literally just young people teaming up and inheriting old beefs and once they lose people it's not even about whatever it was once about. Maybe back then, when the gangs had structure integrated them into a community was feasible. The way I see it, a good majority of older youth are probably too far gone. They will beef until there dead or the cops catch them, probably mass arrest for older known gang members but this alone would do nothing, conditions have to be better. But one cannot happen without the other.
@@TheBucketSkill exactly, and to be honest I was quite hesitant to even throw that point across. A lot of the old heads from the GDs, Black P Stones, and Vice Lords, have been done away with. Now like you said, the gangs now are too young and splintered. It's possible for integration, but the mental health and beef hurdles are very big challenges to overcome. But I like your input though.
This is actually the best video I've seen from Vice in a while. These members of the community are doing what they can to de-escalate situations and trying to intervene in violent situations WITHOUT the power dynamic. FUND THESE PEOPLE. Make it "financially worthwhile" to be a violence interrupter. The idea of replacing police with social workers is a great one, but do you have any idea how much social workers get paid on average? Not very much, and those who do it "don't do it for the money" which is sad but true. These community members are putting their lives on the line every day to interrupt violent situations, some of which the police would probably never even respond to. Make it worthwhile for them. Don't turn these heroes into martyrs. The only way to expand non-violent social services is to incentivize people to become involved.
Bless this woman. The "Crook" County court system is a revolving door joke. Violent career criminals are given a slap on the wrist and allowed to terrorize and victimize the people in the communities with impunity.
@@chaotickreg7024 or it’s the fact that they know if they interviewed people outside the organization they would say it’s not doing much since yk shootings are at an all time high and from 2003 to 2016. More people have been murdered in Chicago alone then the amount of soldiers killed in the Iraq war and Afghanistan war combined within the same years
Then you don’t know what “defunding the police” actually means. Hint: it has zero to do with preventing police from doing their actual jobs as law enforcement.
@@BlownMacTruck No, you don't. At its most basic, "defund the police" means reallocating money from policing to other agencies funded by local municipalities. Advocates are split on the question of how far it should go: whether to reduce funding and reform some aspects of policing, or completely abolish police forces as we know them. ALL OF THIS prevents the police from doing their job. They can't protect people if they aren't armed. Criminals won't stop using guns, knives, bombs, fists, whatever they can use to harm people. That's what they do. Disarming the police, removing funding, and abolishing policing all together is the single most STUPID idea to ever have been though of. Until you can remove violence from human nature (you can't) you're gonna need police. It works. Is there collateral? Yes, and we need to work on that. But defunding the police IS about abolishing policing at its fundamental core. Don't start this false rhetoric that Defunding the Police is about better policing.
That’s what they wanted! They voted her in. Let them live with it. I don’t feel sorry for one person in Chicago. They are getting exactly what they wanted.
@@tobiisiba1641 that is why I also said investment into the community which gives the opportunities for kids to stay out of that life. You need both in order for the situation to get better.
@@tobiisiba1641 violence and crime is correlated with poverty more than anything else. community reform would do more for the people than more policing
I hope what they are trying to do works. It’s crazy all the violence in Chicago. It takes some courageous people to do this. I applaud for everyone involved in this project. Good luck and be safe.
I as a backer of police see these programs in high risk areas as an asset. as long as people know that violence intervention is not a replacement for law enforcement. Im actually not sure why this has so many dislikes, maybe Vice haters? if you disagree with these programs what is your reasoning, im curious to know
their needs to be a well funded agency that deals with violence de-escalation, abuse issues, mental health conflicts, and other sensitive scenarios. Not some bubble gum thing, but actual people who are trained to deal with certain situations. Have police on standby, but actually let people who can de-escalate possibly with a nurse or EMT on hand.
@@TheLazyass111 I agree with this. Some departments have implemented special police branches that do descalation and other minor things, the nice thing is that they are fully funded and have the equipment and trianing that could help them be more effective. That being said, there is an argument for having an entirely separate entity lime the ones shown here specifically for descalation. This is because I would assume somone not wearing a badge could be more relatable, the worst thing to do in these situations is to sit on your high horse and be disconnected.
@@TheLazyass111 its called the police. nobody wants to do it because they are at risk of death everytime they are out there. matter of fact why don't you do it.
The system hardly exists, stop encouraging barbarity, and maybe people and businesses will start building economic job opportunities in your areas. Also quit calling people racist just because they don’t consent to getting pillaged, by not constructing a building that’s gonna get raided and terrorized most likely.
Can we just hire like a small group of experienced Taliban fighters to do some contracting work in Chicago. They'd eliminate the problem in less than a week.
Basically what i got was take money from police and give it to people who are acting like police. Good idea. Why not, hear me out, just join the damn police.
@@joshuawargo3333 these people go in without guns and talk to both sides to try to descalate the situation. That's literally the opposite approach of police. They want to avoid violence and police bring the violence, get it now?
@@shoecar89 and this is the problem. In my mind if i was armed planning to meet someone i have a problem with, im expecting there to be conflict (which is why i am armed). Say if i were to kill the other person the first thing i would look for is witnesses. Which in this case is homegirl, which is unarmed. Im not sure about you or her but i know i cant fist fight a bullet. This is why police are armed, not just to desk pop in the office or gun down random people. Nobody wants the police until they need the police. Im not saying the idea doesnt have good intention but how many many of these people trying to de escalate the issue are going to have to get injured before we go back to where we are now?
@@shoecar89 wow it’s almost like having one woman, who was at one point a gang boss, that has experience can’t control and deescalate all violent interactions in chicago. She is unique, and you cannot train someone to operate and like she does. Police are necessary, and anyone who would say otherwise has never lived without them. I think an incredible example of this is New York in early 2020: any theft of goods under 1000$ would not be investigated, pursued or responded to by police. W Do you think the citizens of New York were happy with it? You guessed it, they hated it. If there are no police, what is the alternative deterrent? Deescalation is possible in certain cases, but to simply remove police entirely in favour of deescalation units is laughable at best and dangerous at worst.
@@joshuawargo3333 I don't disagree with everything you're saying here but it's irrelevant to the point in your original comment that was way off the mark, and you're still missing the point. This program in Chicago is happening along with traditional policing. It's a newly funded (but not entirely new idea as the video said) approach that no one thinks is going to fully replace policing.
I think there are positives and negatives, just like living anywhere else. There are 2.7 million people who live in Chicago, and it's filled with many kind and good people. I would have never met them if I didn't move here.
@@SlightlyTarded Doesn't have to be formal education - just awareness, knowledge, empathy & aptitude. I do not have an undergrad but have a decent job, friends, fam and a social network. No degree required for these things..
Anyone notice the lack of comments on the role of parents? If anything has changed since the 70s, it’s the complete lack of personal responsibility and parenting. Rewarding neighborhoods through shifting revenues removes the incentive/disincentive function of society.
Just a quick reminder that Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. And even with those laws, Chicago still has some of the most gun related crimes in the nation. Restrictions on guns only makes matters worse. Obviously
Gun laws don't matter if you're a criminal you can always get your hands on them. So no I don't think the gun laws have anything to do with the crimes in Chicago.
Wow you really stopped thinking after that point, didn't you? Even with strict gun laws, the fact that guns are legal and easily acquired across the nation means the black market is absolutely full of them. Black markets always exist, but the supply that the black market has depends on your neighbors. Good old "opiod Ohio" basically means you can drive a state over, buy the gun legally, then sell it or use it illegally in Chicago without big issue.
@@adoe2305 lol no, your point only fuels my narrative. My point is, Gun laws are absolutely ridiculous and only hurt lawful gun owners. Gun laws do not prevent crime. Period.
Hopeful thoughts but it's going to take police and community coming together to make this issue better. Unfortunately doesn't look like that'll happen.
Chicago needs to open up more boxing and mma gyms for the youth so that way they are more likely to settle their differences with their fists instead of picking up a gun to settle their differences
Well she is so awesome we need more people like this a lot more and all the other people that are there helping to stand that really made my day watching this thanks viceland really
Sounds like so successful! 48 shootings and 4 killed last weekend. I guess this gunman has a real bad marksmanship, only 9% killing rate. He needs more training and more range time. Even a social worker can shoot better than him.
@@Rolando_Cueva in fact especially in Chicago with today's media in such small confined community,they diss each other in rap or on social media then go down the street and blast at each other
@@ferrychomer1551 it’s not just Chicago. Everyone else is influenced by it and Chicago is setting a standard. Rules are being laid outZ. Religion is basically be created by Record execs
Police can’t defend you off the drop, you are already required to defend yourself. So that begs the question : if the police can’t defend from shooters at all , why even have them
@@chupacabra304 police aren’t a private contractor, they are supposed to uphold the law. Shooting people is against the law. You’re a pretty optimistic person if you think a world without police would function more smoothly.
Even in this imperfect world we don’t need militarized police, that’s the point Police don’t even lower the crime, the only thing they can do is attempt to ensure that the governments end of the social contract is upheld , and they do that poorly. Since the drug war began the % of cases successfully solved has dropped because its easier for police to bully stoners than to actually prevent any white collar crime. Don’t even get me started on illegal forfeitures and theft by police exceeding all burglaries in our shitty country
@Pecker Dúnlaing Space Dolphin Brigada she may have watched that boy grow up she cares about him unlike you who has never met him and the cops who dont know him either. He could be dead if she didn't step in to save him and others.
Lady, you ROCK!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!! To use your knowledge , respect and your own personal power to do such good. I wish you so many blessings… 🙏❤️🙏
Some of the major problems are: poverty, no job opportunities, bad parenting or no parenting, violent gangster rap music and lack of birth control. You can't just wish the problems to go away, unless you get to the real root of the problems. You need to give communities real hope, not just empty platitudes and more policing.
Far to many Blacks refuse to admit you need a father and mother in raising their kids in the ways they should go. Because the woman don;t need a man those kids need both parents, without it an embalance sets in.
This is an excuse. The right leaning do-gooders claim it's a lack of fathers, the left claim it's a lack of education. The reality is some people just have a greater propensity for violence and cannot live in an orderly cohesive society. The slums of Chicago, Haiti, Brazil, Somalia have one thing in common and it ain't a lack of fathers.
It’s sad that a women have to physically place themselves in harm’s way for men who don’t think twice about them before opening fire in concentrated areas.
Its not sad its inspiring and hopefully more people can join her in this endeavor also don't make this a gender thing all black people need to come together on this male and female
I have an idea. Each illegal gun you find give them 5+ years in prison, even if the weapon is new. Add 15+ if it’s been used. These loose laws make criminals think it’s a badge of honor to go to jail.
Or we could try to reverse the effects of the crack epidemic, redlining, and inequality but your idea makes people from outside the community feel better so let's do that
@@hunterflowerson4460 in Chicago you get 2 - 5 years if caught with an illegal gun. That’s way to loose. All these years with crime through the roof nobody asked how are they getting in the city? Instead of defunding the police how about put more funding in Highway search’s for illegal cross state firearm sales.
Bless this lady in the beginning of the video for trying. Unfortunately, she doesn’t realize that her efforts will be futile. You can’t fix a complex systemic issue of violence and crime in the hood. She makes small wins, but she can’t change a generational mindset that’s been ingrained in the heads of the ignorant.
Yep black folks keep it up they're going to defund and dismantle and you're going to have to figure out something for your own safety. That's going to be a miserable time in a place like Chicago. I commend people who are genuine in trying to improve the situation I've heard seen documentaries on The Interrupters I think most of them are black women which is sad where are the men the tired of seeing it it's old and frankly a waste of time I wouldn't waste my energy on these people I would just get the hell up out of Chicago.
How have the millions they get every year never gone to training? How does that work? Only thing that money has funded is body cams that they can turn off
@Anonymous that’s such bs.... why can Latinos and Asians come here in droves and pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make a living? I’ll tell you why, because instead of being out pretending to be gangsters the vast majority have father figures, discipline, and are taught right from wrong. I agree that there’s a cultural problem, but it seems to me that it’s more of an American Black problem than “blaming the system.”
The thing is that police officers are a reflection of our society, there are all types of people working in police forces, and what personally worries me is that I don't know what type of person will be wearing that uniform, this is what makes me mistrustful and it takes some time to get past that and understand what type of person I am dealing with. The way I see it, those violence interrupters have the huge advantage of being known, of having relationships with the people they are trying to help and this accelerates the trust that is required to defuse situations. If they are willing to risk themselves to help people then the city has every obligation to support their efforts.
It's more poverty breeds desperation to desperation breeds crime but you do have to make the conscious decision to go to crime instead of something else so maybe it's a cultural thing and it's a situational thing honestly as a black man in America I say it's both but you know it could be either or depending on the person
They have to much hope in the criminals themselves. Always after every shooting it’s “please turn yourself in” like I doubt the guy who is shooting the in a public place is even watching the news to hear the message
Ever heard the phrase "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"? Housing, food, water, education, after school programs, job training, arts/enrichment programs, libraries, maker spaces, community centers, transportation = prevention. Police = cure. Lots of cities spend half their budget on police, when all those other programs go unfunded and overlooked and would make far more impact on whether people turn to crime in the first place. Police have a purpose, but they can't be the only thing we try.
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This feels like trying to put out a forest fire with a water pistol
What other better solutions could you implement?
@@citizensauto No idea! To me it seems the US is beyond repair...too many guns & too much glamorization of violence ingrained into the culture. I don't see any solution other than more cops, unless there's a drastic reduction in poverty & a firearm amnesty, & probably legalisation of drugs (none of which will happen).
@@citizensauto Better educational opportunities in K-12 for underprivileged communities. That’s the long term solution. Short term: I’m as stumped as you
@@citizensauto guilani style
@@citizensauto shoot them.
*That $23 millions fundings went straight into the pockets of those who said they were gonna fix the community*
And that’s *no capping*
Right. If it didn't, let us see where the 23 million dollars went.
Yup
Big salaries to walk around the hood and pretend to do something while the cameras roll. In the mean time gang violence is skyrocketing.
Must be the easiest money the “ex-gang-members” have ever made
@John Sno everybody brings up isolated police shootings but then ignored the countless killing everyday from gangs and the music all day telling people to participate in this . We’ve tried this stuff before it was called cease fire , and it was marked by corruption and inefficiency
Defunding the police isn’t going to help
defunding the police means to use the money in stuff like schools. if kids stay in school they won't need to do crime or have the time to get involved with gangs. police only come WHEN the crime happens
edit: i was using school as an example. there are many industries under the government that can use the money
@@janaekelis All the money in schools already, not dong anything. I do feel industrial arts starting in Jr. High could help.
@@janaekelis the schools already have money . Teachers unions actually get too much money . You clearly don’t know what your talking about .
@@janaekelis They do plenty of community policing, but a lot of these kids are taught no to trust the police to start with so I'd say the fix to the problem starts at home, not with the police.
@@joefran619 i totally agree
I live in Chicago and it will never change with the people we have in charge.The city needs aggressive police and harsher sentences for violent offenders.
Vice news does not support this statement
Yea as crazy as that sounds rap music has for sure destroyed these communitys
Saying that black people will threaten you and call you a coon
@@brendendavis8596 no crack did
@@kaymelinarap fueled.Less people think of being thugs as cause of music videos and guns and flexing money
It’s damn near impossible to stop another man from pulling a trigger. God bless them
They love their jobs...
teach them properly as kids... but now the gangsters breed so fast that the kids aspire to be like daddy who is usually dead by this time... but yh go ahead and defund police n watch hells gate open
@@williambishop4737 just a question, do you feel bad for the kids, teens, and young adults(the ones that just aged out of teen hood.) in these environments? I would like to hear your thoughts.
@@mrtrel9232 you act like they cant do anything to not be a gangster, we all have choices we just gotta make the right ones, no one makes you take another's life not even your environment, its a personal choice you gotta make, yea we are all killers and have the capabilities of it, but these "kids" don't have the moral compass to choose between self defense and murder.
@@jayyvonkush1941 Yea
One at a time is better than none at a time.
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@@oathraw2135 shut up bro 😂😂😂😂
So simple yet so hard.
@Todd Nichol tf
I live here.. not 1 neighborhood is getting better at a time.. Daily getting worst
She's trying to protect a Vice camera crew that's probably been to 3+ warzones by now. Wholesome.
that doesent mean they cant get shot lol
Chicago is a war zone everyone got a gun.
@@Dakidpepe Nah, it's dangerous, but it ain't a warzone.
@@YouViolatedTheNAP like which reporters? I wanna learn about it, was it in a war?
No she was trying to keep them away so they can’t be on camera and feds see what was gonna happen and see who got them guns with proof
Another year, another Chicago documentary on gun crime
Correction: Gang crime
Vote republican and stop the violence
@@theyreeegggreat8963 yes voting republican will definitely solve everything
They only need another 200 million to stop shooting each other. Complete grift. EventuLly some brave soul in the media will figure it out.
@@bobvanderbuilt7680 There are no violent Republican ran cities in America. Look at the most deadly and crime riddled cities. They all have Democratic leadership.
She literally votes for the people that allow this to happen.
that's because her mom most likely voted democrat and if she doesn't she would be an outcast.
@@rachelquaye-asamoah5386 That couldn't be more true. I was watching this black conservative who was being quite critical of CRT, and the black leftists started calling him ''Uncle Tom'' and all kinds of shitty names. But at the end of the day, who cares? Those black leftists are uneducated (most of the time), they don't have any historical knowledge, nor do they have any developed critical thinking (they're not even trying to develop it). It's sad to see.
Chicago has a 100 years worth of violence ... republican or Democrat doesn’t matter ... just like any other city.
@@ThatLegendRicoKing Democrats have literally had control of $hitcago since the late 20' early 30's.
@@calvinwinner2039 Democrats back then were conservatives but they did have a Republican during Al Capone last days. Homicide rate was just as bad.
I wish them luck, but so far the violence is increasing.
It’s been an increase across the US though mainly due to Covid
@@Avogadros_number Mainly due to covid?. how does a sickness start causing violence?.
@@brodik6207 A sickness that caused the whole country to shut down, making people getting locked at home, who in turn develop stress/mental issues and in turn are more likely to resort to violence. It's not the sickness that cause increase in crime, but rather the butterfly effect it caused. This affect people with low income a lot because they are the most vulnerable population.
@@vanlao6367 understandable, but wouldn’t the lack of a police presence also tie into the increase of crime ??. I’m not saying an authoritarian appearance is ideal, but you need some authority ??.
@@brodik6207 Surprisingly, all police officers are also human, meaning they also care about their own life before their duty. You can increase or decrease police funding, but if no officers dare to patrol poor/ghetto neighborhoods, then it's still a waste of money in the end.
How can a regular cop dare to patrol poor neighborhood every day, when even his/her chief won't do so ? The top has to make an example, but when even they are scared of going on patrol, then the rest also follow suit. And statistics proved that officers who patrol in the ghettos has lower life expectancy than their colleagues.
Angel walking, May she be blessed so she can continue to bless.
She isn't blessing anyone she just recieves money from the city for walking around and standing by.
@@TheAdekrijger so basically a Police ?
@Noah Bodze Wrong, what they are saying is she's an angel walking like the term "Dead man walking" This woman wants to make a positive change but the more conflicts she puts herself in the middle of the greater her chances are of her dying of a gun shot wound.
@Noah Bodze 🤣😂 That's your comeback? I swear you people deflect so much & refuse to see what is in front of you & the actual facts. She is a dead woman walking. As if she is walking the line, death row & she never knows when it's coming. That's why she was shaking. Until it is a stray bullet that lands in your parents head, your brother, sister or family members head, only then will it matter, mean something & suddenly you will want something done & some justice. I don't speak lies & those who are offended by my words only get offended because it's the damn truth.
@Noah Bodze 😂🤣
We cannot keep killing our brothers and sisters over stupid things like that.
We will only jesus will stop it upon his return not a moment before!
Kill the oppressors. Wypipo are the real enemy
@@chaosXP3RT wtf
But YALL do consistently
@@chaosXP3RT Nope white folks ain't making hoods fight that's an internal conflict which is worse.
Police or no police the violence runs incredibly deep and is a very complicated issue. Politicians on both sides always act like they know the answers when they don't know the first thing about street politics. I applaud this woman and pray for her safety because we need real leaders that truly understand these conflicts in order to make real change. Her way of doing it won't stop all the violence of course but it's the fact that she's trying that matters. No one has the right answer you only need the right effort that comes from the heart
It’s a battle against angry ppl and somewhat of an ideology. That’s a steep hill to overcome.
@@JaysBestDeals exactly, that's war for you. The same reasons Isreal and Palestine has no easy answer to stop the violence is the same concept here
@@jrdnlove why are they fighting? There are many reasons but we can't help them unless we know what the problem is.
@@emanueljames7801 either the illegal drug market or plain revenge.
@@emanueljames7801 could be any number of reasons who really knows at this point. It's like Romeo and Juliette where you have to warring factions that have hated each other for generations and lose sight of the real reason they're fighting. But with Chicago it's like 100 different gangs, that have different issues with each other, and it's kind of hard to convince someone not to hate the opposition when a lot of these kids have lost family members to gun violence before they were even born.
I had to move out Chicago with my parents, due to the gang violence. I literally lost all my child hood friends due to cross fires and gang activity. I’m only 21, and at that time I was 6-9yrs old. Sadly I believe there will never be peace in Chicago.
I think they should open more boxing and mma gyms in Chicago. It will give kids something to do besides gang life and I think it will lead to people using their fists to solve their problems instead of picking up guns to solve their problems
I don’t think that will work. Gun control in Chicago is out of control. You can purchase guns with no stress. It’s that simple. The violence gets to deep till the point, one another wants to kill each other.
I honestly miss my city so much & the people I’ve met throughout growing up. Even though I visit hear and there. I’m better off living in TX.
That's God saying you have a bigger purpose that still must be discovered. God didn't take you off that dangerous path for nothing. God bless
@@noize934 They don’t want it to change. In many ways people make their living off the violence both legally and illegally.
really hope y'all gave her a huge hug, on behalf of everyone watching this.
She doesn’t want a hug. She wants the men to protect and provide for her in the community. Blk men don’t care who die on the frontlines. I could never .
@@fosthedoll daaaamn calm down boo..
A hug for pocketing funding for "crime intervention"? Lmao
You do not only need violence interruption. You need violence prevention. Education is the key. Give people a perspective.
According to democrats education is racist.
@@hahynbornbornhahyn9857 that might be the most idiotic thing i've ever heard...
I can agree to that. However how are you going to stop the current vicious circle of Kids getting drafted into gangs, becoming violent offenders and going to jail, just for the next generation to have no valid role models and become drafted into gangs again, etc.
You need to break that, and even if it won't be pretty, you need a police with the necessary authority for that.
@@gijs_k3737 I agree
The schools aren't teaching anymore. They're teaching Protest 101.
"what is name and what is name" "oh God! I gotta go deal with this!"
Talking in code
I wouldn't believe any of this was real if they had used names and gone running up to film people. The fact that we got sky shots and whatshisname is why a kept watching.
My cousin is on it!
I really love how the people behind violence prevention do recognize that the two professions (policing and violence prevention) compliment one another and wouldn’t work if the other didn’t exist.
No police are needed in a society
@@qriosity9265 Every society has had a form of policing. It as essential a function as farming and construction. The Romans had the Praetorian Guard (who performed many functions outside of policing and were notoriously corrupt), the Athenians had the Hoplites (loose bands of citizens hired to maintain order and patrol public areas), the Spartans had the Homoioi (basically their military), the European societies of the Middle Ages had bailiffs, reeves, and yeomen (all of which are titles still used today), and Feudal Japan had the Samurai (the lesser samurai would often patrol their liege-lords estates and police the local farms and villages). Police exist for a reason. Though often authority becomes easily corrupted, it is an essential role in society because humans are social animals and therefore need social structure (like wolves, chimpanzees, and gorillas). While good people can be found everywhere, like those in violence prevention programs, so can bad people, like those who kill over petty gang feuds and those who abuse authority. Not all police are bad, but not all are good. Not all criminals have evil intent, but neither are all doing it merely as a means to survive. As long as humans wrong and abuse another, a system of reprimanding offenders needs to exist. Policing is the most obvious solution, but because police officers are human, they cannot be perfect either. Get what I am saying yet (I’ve reiterated it three times now)?
I don't know about the last part there. It's about scale of resources. Cops have $1.6bil to prevent where as the program has $17mil budget.
@@THISDICFOO It would have been good if the documentary had gone into what that extra funding would’ve done for the violence prevention program. The reason they compliment another is because violence prevention can be the preventive measure taken to avoid violence, but once violence has already began, then police need to be involved (instead of unarmed negotiators).
@@boolosboi7503bro you just said "not all criminals have evil intent, but neither are doing it as a means to survive" But.there are hundreds of criminals who have long history criminal track record which needs to be checked. Immediate crimes, short crimes and even dangerous crimes all need policing to be ckecked. Without which the society will be anarchic. The police are the most important foundation of first line defence. If there's no police entire society would be in a mess. Suppose you have murder and robbery at your home, you would need immediate professional assistance from someone specialised. You won't have anytime to figure out the intention of criminals and yada yada but your immediate thought would be to protect your family.
God Bless Patricia for she is out there doing the Lords work.
As much as I love what Patricia is doing, her organization CANNOT replace police. It helps “subsidize” it.
How’s that whole defund the police thing working out? 🤦♂️
Even with the police there’s still a lot of shootings and violence going on. 25% of murders are solved in Chicago. It’s not because the police is defunded. But be stupid.
As long as culture glorifies dealing, pimping, thuggish behavior we won’t solve this
Starts at home ..home is the foundation
Chicago needs to open up more boxing and mma gyms for the youth. That way people will be more likely to settle their differences with their fists instead of settling their differences with guns
@@noize934 yes! This is a great idea.
Agreed
Are you referring to rap music?
People hate the truth - the solution lies with the family unit, education & overall investment in the individual.
If you invest in enough individuals, you'll end up investing in community.
Every person in power claims to do so yet have we seen any results? Have we seen any education programs? No. These people along with government officials are fools if they don’t see that
No 200 million will fix it
Feminism and left week politics in general have been poison. They don’t want to hear about the family unit.
They definitely don’t want to hear about cultural issues.
I love the fact she is taking responsibility for her community and her actions, I just hope the nature of her work does not lead to her demise. She seems like good people. Need more like her.
She taking bout being a chief...if she was, she'd have bodies galore n should be in the clink.
I'm with you!
@@Morgans_Mom Unfortunately it will. Untrained people in the wrong place at the very wrong time.
Judging by the increase in violent crime in Chicago, this is working well
VICE is such a joke. Glad the company is going under.
People have to look at themselves to stop all the violence. Unfortunately, that's NOT gonna happen.
Honestly, what do you think would happen if we just legalized drugs. What would these gangs even fight over?
You and I have the common sense not to take ecstasy ever morning and die from a heart attack, so why do we care if the government enforces this or not?
In my opinion, the amount of money going into policing and the growth lost from this violence is not worth it. Rather have a 2% of the population be legal addicts than 2% of the population slinging crack and turning the country into Chiraq.
@@honkhonk8009 Seattle and Portland are hellholes now that they decriminalized drugs. I don't know what the solution is but we haven't found it yet
@@terintiaflavius3349 How are they hell holes? What makes you say that?
@@honkhonk8009 There is more violence over Social media than drugs. Shooting and killing is a badge of honor to them. That's just the truth
@@terintiaflavius3349 thats for a whole different reason. Stop blaming drugs already
Unfortunately, I don’t think this will end the violence.
It’s not gonna reduce violence. In an age of “ I’m a Queen “ 🥴 these kids have no father figures
@@senanb1 ah yes, once people have money they will all sit around and sing kumbaya. *Newsflash* bad people will always exist in every facet of society, rich, poor, black, white, etc.
Let me guess - more guns will 🤨
Its a start.
@@incognito96 you first
They haven't addressed the big issue...... POVERTY!
supersayianjim which leads to...? Poverty, dont be dense and stop trying to blame one side when it takes two parents to make a human
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@supersayianjim Ives seen some seriously poor rundown white areas if single white woman it doesn't have anything to do with race
Part of it. I’d argue lack of fathers in the homes and generally broken homes is a much bigger issue.
We as Chicagoans need to work together to make our neighborhoods safe. Enough is enough people. We can’t let gangs or corrupt politicians get the better of us. Vote in people who care about this city and it’s people.
no u need dads to discipline u
the situation will always be the same when the people who needs help become in the power
I admire your goals, but as long as people hate anyone that tries to enforce safety, it won’t get better.
You are correct, but Chicago is determined to be another Detroit. It’s sad, what was a beautiful city just a few years ago now is almost all ghetto. It’s not safe to go anywhere there. The democrats have nothing to offer except failure
We need more police, not less.
We need tougher cops out there ensuring the peace, doing stop-and-frisk, and punishing the criminals a lot more harshly, in addition to forcibly taking all the guns of known or suspected criminals. The people who don't speak up about suspected criminals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, without the possibility of parole.
Sweet woman. Always felt bad for chicagoans, I’ve never been there without hearing at least one gunshot nightly.
Update: Not working
She may postpone things, but they may meet up at night to do what they want.
Like how principals always claim fights in school are almost non existent, when all the real fights happen at a park down the street. Where there is no security or teachers to break it up.
it’s better than nothing
If they had funding, a night shift would seem like a decent idea.
@@alerios5110 Well, not really. Even according to their own posted data during the video violent crime rates have kept growing during their time spent doing it. That is generally a clue that things are not working as planned when the statistical data is doing the exact opposite of what your program intended for it to do.
Well these moron want to defund the police so
Chicago's history has been filled with a lot of crippling social conditions due to segregation, racial tensions, and A LOT of gun proliferation. In order for meaningful change in Chicago, there needs to be a crucial wartime effort to develop the local economy, education, property, social programs, and mental health care to help them cope with the trauma. The police also have a vital role as well. Yet more importantly, we have to accept that the gangs there are too ingrained in Chicago's identity to be fully dispersed, thus they need to be integrated in the community in some form or fashion. So much work needs to be done.
It’s the fact that a democrat has ran Chicago for 50 years
I hate to say it, but ever heard of the purge? Other countries do that, even for immoral reasons like discrimination and religion differences
@@joseureste8257 I have my own laundry list of pros and cons with the democrats, but one thing I can say is that the dems from 50 years ago were much different from modern democrats of today before the party platform switch during the Nixon convention in the late 60s. Ironically, much of the segregation and red zoning policies implemented back in the day were done by the old school democrats. The important thing now is to come up with new methods and thinking to address the endemic violence.
There is no feasible way to integrate the gangs, in there current form they are literally just young people teaming up and inheriting old beefs and once they lose people it's not even about whatever it was once about. Maybe back then, when the gangs had structure integrated them into a community was feasible. The way I see it, a good majority of older youth are probably too far gone. They will beef until there dead or the cops catch them, probably mass arrest for older known gang members but this alone would do nothing, conditions have to be better. But one cannot happen without the other.
@@TheBucketSkill exactly, and to be honest I was quite hesitant to even throw that point across. A lot of the old heads from the GDs, Black P Stones, and Vice Lords, have been done away with. Now like you said, the gangs now are too young and splintered. It's possible for integration, but the mental health and beef hurdles are very big challenges to overcome. But I like your input though.
This is actually the best video I've seen from Vice in a while. These members of the community are doing what they can to de-escalate situations and trying to intervene in violent situations WITHOUT the power dynamic. FUND THESE PEOPLE. Make it "financially worthwhile" to be a violence interrupter. The idea of replacing police with social workers is a great one, but do you have any idea how much social workers get paid on average? Not very much, and those who do it "don't do it for the money" which is sad but true. These community members are putting their lives on the line every day to interrupt violent situations, some of which the police would probably never even respond to. Make it worthwhile for them. Don't turn these heroes into martyrs. The only way to expand non-violent social services is to incentivize people to become involved.
It's just that rn we will have people abuse that system, but overall I do agree one day gotta let pigs out the cage
@@jimgravesus the only person in America who thinks that gun violence in Chicago is "staged". The money would be justified if what you say is true.
Bless this woman. The "Crook" County court system is a revolving door joke. Violent career criminals are given a slap on the wrist and allowed to terrorize and victimize the people in the communities with impunity.
God bless Patricia for turning her life around , and God protect her in her mission for non-violence.
I would like to thank people as her for making positive productive constructive difference within her communities in chicago.
Notice how they didn’t talk to a single kid
Putting kids on camera requires more paperwork and money, plus kids are not fun to work with.
@@chaotickreg7024 they have done it before. But nice excuse
@@georgej973 different project, different directors, different crew, different preferences, different time
@@chaotickreg7024 or it’s the fact that they know if they interviewed people outside the organization they would say it’s not doing much since yk shootings are at an all time high and from 2003 to 2016. More people have been murdered in Chicago alone then the amount of soldiers killed in the Iraq war and Afghanistan war combined within the same years
Because they might get shot
As a African American, I cannot with good conscience go out there to protest about defunding the police
I sure as hell can knowing that prevention of crime is a better solution than intervention.
Then you don’t know what “defunding the police” actually means. Hint: it has zero to do with preventing police from doing their actual jobs as law enforcement.
@@BlownMacTruck It only means taking the funds they waste on robot dogs and grenade launchers and putting it towards crime prevention.
@@0mg1tsbatman87 That’s part of it yes. Why are you telling me this?
@@BlownMacTruck No, you don't. At its most basic, "defund the police" means reallocating money from policing to other agencies funded by local municipalities. Advocates are split on the question of how far it should go: whether to reduce funding and reform some aspects of policing, or completely abolish police forces as we know them. ALL OF THIS prevents the police from doing their job. They can't protect people if they aren't armed. Criminals won't stop using guns, knives, bombs, fists, whatever they can use to harm people. That's what they do. Disarming the police, removing funding, and abolishing policing all together is the single most STUPID idea to ever have been though of. Until you can remove violence from human nature (you can't) you're gonna need police. It works. Is there collateral? Yes, and we need to work on that. But defunding the police IS about abolishing policing at its fundamental core. Don't start this false rhetoric that Defunding the Police is about better policing.
Blessings to this sister
The defunded police money needs to add thousand more "No Gun Zone" signs and more SWAT (Social Worker Action Teams).
Not working. Arrest the gang members
Failing miserably 😂 getting rid of beetlejuice would be a start
Stop acting like this politicians care about the people you blind 🐑 bet y'all republican voter.? And you ain't from Chicago
@@MOBHITMOBHIT go argue with your wife G
That’s what they wanted! They voted her in. Let them live with it. I don’t feel sorry for one person in Chicago. They are getting exactly what they wanted.
What we need is police reform and heavy investment into the community. Give kids the opportunity to have a better life.
unfortunately they dont use the resources in fear of looking lame. also they dont wanna walk there they might get shotz
@S K I’m not talking about BLM or trump. What are you on?
Police reform in Chicago?? How about a gang reform? You know since they are the onces doing the killing.
@@tobiisiba1641 that is why I also said investment into the community which gives the opportunities for kids to stay out of that life. You need both in order for the situation to get better.
@@tobiisiba1641 violence and crime is correlated with poverty more than anything else. community reform would do more for the people than more policing
She's a good lady takes a lot of heart to put yourself into situations like that
I hope what they are trying to do works. It’s crazy all the violence in Chicago. It takes some courageous people to do this. I applaud for everyone involved in this project. Good luck and be safe.
I as a backer of police see these programs in high risk areas as an asset. as long as people know that violence intervention is not a replacement for law enforcement. Im actually not sure why this has so many dislikes, maybe Vice haters? if you disagree with these programs what is your reasoning, im curious to know
their needs to be a well funded agency that deals with violence de-escalation, abuse issues, mental health conflicts, and other sensitive scenarios. Not some bubble gum thing, but actual people who are trained to deal with certain situations. Have police on standby, but actually let people who can de-escalate possibly with a nurse or EMT on hand.
@@TheLazyass111 I agree with this. Some departments have implemented special police branches that do descalation and other minor things, the nice thing is that they are fully funded and have the equipment and trianing that could help them be more effective. That being said, there is an argument for having an entirely separate entity lime the ones shown here specifically for descalation. This is because I would assume somone not wearing a badge could be more relatable, the worst thing to do in these situations is to sit on your high horse and be disconnected.
Easy. 20 years and violence at a peak. Next question?
@@logicrules4033 its like that in more places than Chicago specially with covid affecting economies all over the world.
@@TheLazyass111 its called the police. nobody wants to do it because they are at risk of death everytime they are out there. matter of fact why don't you do it.
Legalize recreational drugs and stop arresting youth for non violent offences.
It would help, yes... but I don't think that would stop the majority of shootings
That is gonna do absolutely nothing to stop shootings. I agree drug laws can be overly harsh. But what we need now is more enforcement not less.
@Pecker Dúnlaing Space Dolphin Brigada keep it illegal so we can continue with gang violence and shootings across North America!
Good idea dimwit
Bless this lady!! Stopping what the system started
"the system" started gang violence?
@@TheSwayzeee they were created to protect people while killing each other 🤣🤣
@@CHAS1422 where do the guns come from??
The system hardly exists, stop encouraging barbarity, and maybe people and businesses will start building economic job opportunities in your areas.
Also quit calling people racist just because they don’t consent to getting pillaged, by not constructing a building that’s gonna get raided and terrorized most likely.
@@TheSwayzeee what does white people being racist have to do with black people killing each other?
She’s so brave
Can we just hire like a small group of experienced Taliban fighters to do some contracting work in Chicago. They'd eliminate the problem in less than a week.
Based
I will watch news just for that.
I would vote for you as mayor of chicago
@@ironaddicted Thanks man! I would force convert the thugs into good little Imam boys who will love their family and community.
@@aryanpashtun416 but please dont teach them how to have sex with donkeys ok?
Defund the police and give all that money to me, and I will go and end gun violence. Pinky promise lmao.
Basically what i got was take money from police and give it to people who are acting like police. Good idea. Why not, hear me out, just join the damn police.
@@joshuawargo3333 these people go in without guns and talk to both sides to try to descalate the situation. That's literally the opposite approach of police. They want to avoid violence and police bring the violence, get it now?
@@shoecar89 and this is the problem. In my mind if i was armed planning to meet someone i have a problem with, im expecting there to be conflict (which is why i am armed). Say if i were to kill the other person the first thing i would look for is witnesses. Which in this case is homegirl, which is unarmed. Im not sure about you or her but i know i cant fist fight a bullet. This is why police are armed, not just to desk pop in the office or gun down random people. Nobody wants the police until they need the police. Im not saying the idea doesnt have good intention but how many many of these people trying to de escalate the issue are going to have to get injured before we go back to where we are now?
@@shoecar89 wow it’s almost like having one woman, who was at one point a gang boss, that has experience can’t control and deescalate all violent interactions in chicago. She is unique, and you cannot train someone to operate and like she does. Police are necessary, and anyone who would say otherwise has never lived without them.
I think an incredible example of this is New York in early 2020: any theft of goods under 1000$ would not be investigated, pursued or responded to by police. W
Do you think the citizens of New York were happy with it? You guessed it, they hated it. If there are no police, what is the alternative deterrent? Deescalation is possible in certain cases, but to simply remove police entirely in favour of deescalation units is laughable at best and dangerous at worst.
@@joshuawargo3333 I don't disagree with everything you're saying here but it's irrelevant to the point in your original comment that was way off the mark, and you're still missing the point. This program in Chicago is happening along with traditional policing. It's a newly funded (but not entirely new idea as the video said) approach that no one thinks is going to fully replace policing.
So glad I live where I do. In Montana, in the country. Never understood why anyone would wanna live in any city.
I think there are positives and negatives, just like living anywhere else. There are 2.7 million people who live in Chicago, and it's filled with many kind and good people. I would have never met them if I didn't move here.
I hope she stays safe.
Only a vice reporter would think this stuff works
*Stopping without police.*
Yeah you guys are doing a bang up of a job.
The educated differ from the uneducated as much as the living from the dead.
That’s one of the most powerful statements I’ve ever heard. Thank you
How does refraining from shooting someone involve education?
@@SlightlyTarded street smarts
You can’t really teach that, it’s more lived experience that plays a key role
@@SlightlyTarded Doesn't have to be formal education - just awareness, knowledge, empathy & aptitude. I do not have an undergrad but have a decent job, friends, fam and a social network. No degree required for these things..
They shoot anyone and anything. 2am or 2pm. This guy has balls
Lord plz keep her protected through every step!
Anyone notice the lack of comments on the role of parents? If anything has changed since the 70s, it’s the complete lack of personal responsibility and parenting. Rewarding neighborhoods through shifting revenues removes the incentive/disincentive function of society.
If only the political leaders in Chicago were as brave and transparent as this woman.
You get what you vote for. People of Chicago this is on you.
Just a quick reminder that Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. And even with those laws, Chicago still has some of the most gun related crimes in the nation. Restrictions on guns only makes matters worse. Obviously
Correlation =/= causation
Gun laws don't matter if you're a criminal you can always get your hands on them. So no I don't think the gun laws have anything to do with the crimes in Chicago.
Wow you really stopped thinking after that point, didn't you? Even with strict gun laws, the fact that guns are legal and easily acquired across the nation means the black market is absolutely full of them.
Black markets always exist, but the supply that the black market has depends on your neighbors. Good old "opiod Ohio" basically means you can drive a state over, buy the gun legally, then sell it or use it illegally in Chicago without big issue.
@@adoe2305 lol no, your point only fuels my narrative. My point is, Gun laws are absolutely ridiculous and only hurt lawful gun owners. Gun laws do not prevent crime. Period.
@@monsieurdorgat6864 I think you misinterpreted. Lol
I was a gang leader, I was a gang cheef, I was their queen🙄🙄🙄🙄 OHKAY 😂😂😂😂
I'm From London, UK I Can't Imagine Living In Chicago Seems So Scary! 🤦♀️
Chicago's youth need their fathers.
Hopeful thoughts but it's going to take police and community coming together to make this issue better. Unfortunately doesn't look like that'll happen.
The cops are not willing to do this. If a cop saw those guys with guns it's likely people would have died.
@@emanueljames7801 Tell them there's drug money involved they'll show up in a heartbeat.
@@emanueljames7801 Good
Chicago needs to open up more boxing and mma gyms for the youth so that way they are more likely to settle their differences with their fists instead of picking up a gun to settle their differences
tbh i dont think cops are the solution.
Well she is so awesome we need more people like this a lot more and all the other people that are there helping to stand that really made my day watching this thanks viceland really
These people are delusional. Both are needed! Not one or the other
Yeah.....it won't work
23 million could have been used towards small business investment or trade schools you can’t follow grown men around 24/7 crime breeds poverty
All heroes don't wear capes they just have to show braveness
Def not these jokers
Come on scholars And academia have known for generations that crime is directly related to poverty.
Or is it that the rich write the law and are therefore never on the wrong side of it.
Let’s be straight up honest here, the no police idea is stupid on an epic level.
Facts 💯
Sounds like so successful! 48 shootings and 4 killed last weekend. I guess this gunman has a real bad marksmanship, only 9% killing rate. He needs more training and more range time. Even a social worker can shoot better than him.
She saw a bunch of illegal guns and did nothing. Really effective.
This is good and all but I’d rather see resources go to fixing the root of the problem, which is the people, the mentality that leads to violence.
Yeah, there is a mentality that goes along with mass crime. The feeling of hopelessness, stuck, left behind, etc...
Dats racist.
Attack the rap music. They are literally swimming upstream Against the it.
tf does rap music have to do with violence? 😂
Tom Macdonald but u know no gangsta in Chicago listening to him
@@Rolando_Cueva in fact especially in Chicago with today's media in such small confined community,they diss each other in rap or on social media then go down the street and blast at each other
@@ferrychomer1551 it’s not just Chicago. Everyone else is influenced by it and Chicago is setting a standard. Rules are being laid outZ. Religion is basically be created by Record execs
@Jordan Wolfe rolando was joking
How to deal with a shooter?
Ask them nicely.
Police can’t defend you off the drop, you are already required to defend yourself. So that begs the question : if the police can’t defend from shooters at all , why even have them
@@chupacabra304 police aren’t a private contractor, they are supposed to uphold the law. Shooting people is against the law. You’re a pretty optimistic person if you think a world without police would function more smoothly.
@@chupacabra304 In a perfect world, we wouldn’t need a police force, but we have crime.
Which means it can’t work.
Even in this imperfect world we don’t need militarized police, that’s the point
Police don’t even lower the crime, the only thing they can do is attempt to ensure that the governments end of the social contract is upheld , and they do that poorly. Since the drug war began the % of cases successfully solved has dropped because its easier for police to bully stoners than to actually prevent any white collar crime.
Don’t even get me started on illegal forfeitures and theft by police exceeding all burglaries in our shitty country
@Pecker Dúnlaing Space Dolphin Brigada she may have watched that boy grow up she cares about him unlike you who has never met him and the cops who dont know him either. He could be dead if she didn't step in to save him and others.
Why didn't the film crew follow her to record her doing exactly what they were there to film? Shoddy journalism.
One year later, this hasn't aged well, sadly.
How's that police defunding going? Any problems?
We need more police
Lady, you ROCK!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
To use your knowledge , respect and your own personal power to do such good. I wish you so many blessings… 🙏❤️🙏
Some of the major problems are: poverty, no job opportunities, bad parenting or no parenting, violent gangster rap music and lack of birth control. You can't just wish the problems to go away, unless you get to the real root of the problems. You need to give communities real hope, not just empty platitudes and more policing.
Too late, death or prison now. No chance for Chicago youth.
It’s the culture.
Oh this has not aged well...i mean i appreciate her efforts...but this has not aged well
Far to many Blacks refuse to admit you need a father and mother in raising their kids in the ways they should go. Because the woman don;t need a man those kids need both parents, without it an embalance sets in.
This is an excuse.
The right leaning do-gooders claim it's a lack of fathers, the left claim it's a lack of education.
The reality is some people just have a greater propensity for violence and cannot live in an orderly cohesive society.
The slums of Chicago, Haiti, Brazil, Somalia have one thing in common and it ain't a lack of fathers.
@@code20tv keyword "slum"
It’s sad that a women have to physically place themselves in harm’s way for men who don’t think twice about them before opening fire in concentrated areas.
Its not sad its inspiring and hopefully more people can join her in this endeavor also don't make this a gender thing all black people need to come together on this male and female
I have an idea. Each illegal gun you find give them 5+ years in prison, even if the weapon is new. Add 15+ if it’s been used. These loose laws make criminals think it’s a badge of honor to go to jail.
Or we could try to reverse the effects of the crack epidemic, redlining, and inequality but your idea makes people from outside the community feel better so let's do that
@@verlinjoseph5438 if you ask civilians in the community what are they more afraid of police or the gangs I guarantee you it’s the gangs.
Uh, what loose laws in Chicago my guy?
@@malignm1857Even if so people fear both a lot
@@hunterflowerson4460 in Chicago you get 2 - 5 years if caught with an illegal gun. That’s way to loose. All these years with crime through the roof nobody asked how are they getting in the city? Instead of defunding the police how about put more funding in Highway search’s for illegal cross state firearm sales.
The only way to stop the violence is to stop the poverty, every poor area of the world since man has existed has had high violent crime.
“Violence interrupter” OMFG lol what a joke
Bless this lady in the beginning of the video for trying.
Unfortunately, she doesn’t realize that her efforts will be futile.
You can’t fix a complex systemic issue of violence and crime in the hood.
She makes small wins, but she can’t change a generational mindset that’s been ingrained in the heads of the ignorant.
Could u imagine how bad the violence would get if they defunded the police and there wasn't barley any cops in the southside, it'd be the purge
Yep black folks keep it up they're going to defund and dismantle and you're going to have to figure out something for your own safety. That's going to be a miserable time in a place like Chicago. I commend people who are genuine in trying to improve the situation I've heard seen documentaries on The Interrupters I think most of them are black women which is sad where are the men the tired of seeing it it's old and frankly a waste of time I wouldn't waste my energy on these people I would just get the hell up out of Chicago.
We don’t know until we’ve tried it
Defund the police only helps criminals. We say that police need more training but we also want to take away their budget. How does that work?
How have the millions they get every year never gone to training? How does that work? Only thing that money has funded is body cams that they can turn off
Republicans that's why. They want to keep defunding cities which they need to money to pay police. Quite sad. 😢
Don’t listen to insane leftist rhetoric.
@Anonymous that’s such bs.... why can Latinos and Asians come here in droves and pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make a living? I’ll tell you why, because instead of being out pretending to be gangsters the vast majority have father figures, discipline, and are taught right from wrong.
I agree that there’s a cultural problem, but it seems to me that it’s more of an American Black problem than “blaming the system.”
The thing is that police officers are a reflection of our society, there are all types of people working in police forces, and what personally worries me is that I don't know what type of person will be wearing that uniform, this is what makes me mistrustful and it takes some time to get past that and understand what type of person I am dealing with.
The way I see it, those violence interrupters have the huge advantage of being known, of having relationships with the people they are trying to help and this accelerates the trust that is required to defuse situations. If they are willing to risk themselves to help people then the city has every obligation to support their efforts.
Hey, just checking in Chicago. How's that stopping shootings thing working out?
what a great lady....
We let guns and poverty run rampant, and then we wonder why there’s violence.
It's more poverty breeds desperation to desperation breeds crime but you do have to make the conscious decision to go to crime instead of something else so maybe it's a cultural thing and it's a situational thing honestly as a black man in America I say it's both but you know it could be either or depending on the person
Exactly
They have to much hope in the criminals themselves. Always after every shooting it’s “please turn yourself in” like I doubt the guy who is shooting the in a public place is even watching the news to hear the message
actually they do watch the news ... to hide and get the dl on what is going on but no maybe not all will turn themselves in
What a hero! Now back her with strong politicians that care about the victims of crime and declare war on the perpetrators. And fund more police...
Ever heard the phrase "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"? Housing, food, water, education, after school programs, job training, arts/enrichment programs, libraries, maker spaces, community centers, transportation = prevention. Police = cure. Lots of cities spend half their budget on police, when all those other programs go unfunded and overlooked and would make far more impact on whether people turn to crime in the first place. Police have a purpose, but they can't be the only thing we try.