Sold me on the MK2 cab with this. I was already strongly considering it but this mod tutorial really did it. Thank you for putting your time into such a great walkthrough!
As a builder and owner of an actual mame arcade machine. Simply meaning a actual full size arcade with CRT monitor etc running mame and all other consoles in native refresh rates and resolutions via groovymame mame and switch res . I can appreciate and respect this build and the time went into this video. Dont listen the clowns here and morons that want to complain about a machine that does what it was intended to do and nothing more..great vid man...
Thanks Robert! I’d love a real cabinet lol, I don’t have enough room. I know this won’t be for some people, I’m pleased with it and it’s as close as I can get with the space and skill limitations I have. This point was to show it can be done on a budget but still get some of the real feel. I’ve been lucky with this channel so far, TH-cam commenters can be vicious but most have been cool.
Thank you so much for making such a detailed video. This must have been extremely time consuming to make. You explain everything with such great detail. I purchased the 12-1 cab and wanted to convert it in a bad way. Now I can play my 7k games from MAME. Thanks again.
Thanks for this, it did take FOREVER to make this video lol. I'm someone who likes a lot of detail when watching a tutorial so I made sure to offer as much detail as possible.
Stumble across this video, can’t wait to try this with my MK cabinet! If it works or not we we’ll see but appreciate the detail you put in on this video
Personally I think the Mortal Kombat button layout would drive me nuts for other fighting games. I like the idea of a case less computer in the cabinet. Cool video guy!
I only used it for games that have the exact layout like War Gods, WWF WrestleMania. I have another machine with the 6 button layout for general emulation. These steps can be applied to any button config though.
Morning KAG, my questions have slowed down a bit due to the fact that I am making a new control panel and clear protective top. The new control board came out great and I love it more than original. Don't you worry, the questions will be back. haha Thanks!
I’m glad to hear that! I tried to be sure to strike a balance of keeping it as brief as possible but still give enough information. I personally like a lot of detail when doing an expensive project like this. I wouldn’t want to get stuck at a point and have to hope someone could help me in the comments. If anyone has questions I do my best to answer or help with odd issues that may come up. I also try to reply to everyone’s comments on this channel.
If you're even remotely interested in running Killer Instinct, NFL Blitz or other late 90's arcades you should use a PC. The PC in my cabinets can't run Blitz, I'm about to buy this Core i5 Dell Optiplex from eBay. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338450036&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue I know it will run the Blitz series.
Finally did my happ controls today bro thanks to ur video ya i had the blue and white cords tested out the sticks and mame on mk everything is good now to hook up my 20 inch monitor and bezel and I'm all set I also have the same subwoofers you got
Dang. I just wanna visit the old days of waiting in line to play ultimate mk and ki 1 lol. If I was knew tech savvy stuff I’d def do this. But I can’t even build my guitar pedals with instructions in front of me haha.
I know how you feel, I’m the same way with fixing cars lol. I shouldn’t even bother haha! I think the hardest part of this build is the software stuff. If you’re not great with Windows or comfortable with messing around with MAME (which isn’t very user friendly) you won’t enjoy doing this build. There’s an account on Instagram I know of that mods these cabinets and sells them. I have no idea if he ships them though. instagram.com/upstatearcademods?igshid=1863547exk3ur
I just want to let you know I mod my MK2 Cabinet following your instruction to have my dream cabinet and it's awesome. Thank you very much for putting such detailed instruction, The only part I wish I could have more detailed is on the frontend software which I still were not able to make it work and control properly with the buttons. Maybe you could do a video only for this part more indept. Anyway Big big thanks on your videos you doing a great job
That’s awesome! Which version of Windows did you try to use? I’m finding Maximus doesn’t work on Windows 10. I have another video planned to release within the next month to show people how to set up LaunchBox/BigBox and that has worked great on my Windows 10 PC.
this is what i did with my arcade1up, , my pc specs are Athlon 3000g and RX570 and it runs pretty good, at a later date im going to put a Ryzen 5 3600x in my system. once the 4000 series comes out (in my main rig i have 3900x and the 3600x is my wifes, TLDR - gonna give her my 3900 once i get my 4000 series CPU and take out the athlon 3000g and save it as a backup incase a CPU dies. also make sure you have a LOT of Ram, 32gb max
That's going to be a nice processor for emulating most arcade games. I'm starting to look in to Teknoparrot for those newer arcade games but I don't have dedicated GPUs in any of my cabinets.
Finally! I've been waiting for an MK2 1up mod video. I've seen mods for the street fighter machine, but since the control panel is different on the mk2, this video really helps. I am using pandoras box, however. Still helpful,Thanks!
I really appreciate you showing me how to finally do it right I got a raspberry pi 3 b+ already in it and try with the PC but the button layout was not coming out right and I greatly appreciate you showing us how to do it I'm going to stay subscribing to your channel and supporting it and telling all my friends
I'm a bit confused on how I would go about using the controls/sticks-&-buttons the cabinet originally came with, rather than swapping them out. I got the Marvel Superheroes Special Edition, that came with Sanwa controls, and so I'd like to keep them. Do I need a different encoder board/Is there one that simply plugs in where the old one did? Or do I need to open it up and rewire some things (Like, to connect the controls as a separate player1/player2 set of buttons, I need to rewire things?)?... Sorry if the question is a bit odd, love the tutorial, and just trying to make my dream arcade machine. (Also, I assume placing the whole PC box in the empty cardboard back is okay if it fits)
You can use the original controls but you will need a USB encoder board to plug them in to. The joysticks probably have a single connector to plug right into the board for each one. Each button has to be plugged into the new boards like I show in the video. The power switch and volume switch won't work without some modifying of the wiring. I wouldn't recommend messing with that, I'd just use a power strip like I did. You can just put the whole PC in if it fits. I just bought one of the Dell Optiplex PC's I link to for a new build and it fits without removing it from the case.
@@KillerArcadeGames Fair enough, I assume I should then use the Sanwa usb encoder, given the controls are Sanwa? (Also any small tips and tricks for the wiring not mentioned in the video, this'll be my first dive into hardware-modding aside from some Arduino/soldering ) Thanks for the reply, and the help!
Wow thanks so much. Why didnt i hear about you until today? LoL. I dont own an arcade 1 up machine but I own a bartop arcade and id love to swap out the pandoras box and throw in a MAME software running on windows 10!. But firstly i need to know how to setup mame! Suscribed!
After looking at the raspberry 3 and retropie issues I'm looking to copy your design and go with a computer inside my Arcade1up. Not to familiar with what all Im talking about just yet but im getting there lol. Your games like Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat look like they run flawlessly. Anyways my question is how many MAME games do you think I could download and run clean going with the computer you recommended below? I was looking at your list on your system and while very impressed with whats on there, i was hoping I could get a few more like Pit Fighter, Tekken, and a few more. Great job on your build!
I think the PC is always going to be more reliable. If you choose to replace the hard drive with an SSD it will have no moving parts other than the fans. I run hard drives in mine right now and its still fine but those are the weak points for longevity in these. I've heard of Pi's overheating, not being able to emulate high demand games and other weird issues. They aren't for me. The PC I linked could absolutely run Pit Fighter, it should be fine with the early Tekkens. Tekken 4 and beyond may have trouble but I don't know for sure as I've never emulated them. It would be easier to tell you which games it definitely can't run, like, Mortal Kombat 4, NBA Showtime, Racing games like SF Rush games, Hydro Thunder (which can't be emulated by anything currently) and most games made after 1999ish. If you have any other's in mind just leave the comment and I'll see if I can get an answer. Thanks for checking it out!
@@KillerArcadeGames thanks for the info. I am looking to basically have all the games you have MK1,2,3, KI, KI2, different Street fighter verisons, maybe tekken 1,2,3, Pit-fighter, NBA Jams and a few others I can think of at the moment. And of course a few classics like Pacman, frogger, donkey kong, etc. I know the old games I wont have any trouble with but I guess my question is, will the computer you recommended in the comments below be able to take on 30-50 games and have all of them run smoothly like your does? Is 3.40 GHz a fast enough processor to support those? Will I be able to store that many games in one cabinet? Noob here lol.
I have trying to make my cabinet like your and it it coming along great so far, 75% complete or so but I did run into an issue. If you run the 3mm audio cable from the amp to the computer, where are you plugging in your computer speakers into? Also letting you know that the amp you listed doesnt have a 3mm plug, wondering if that was a mistake or am I missing something to go forward with the built. Cant thank you enough for your help.
Great video and thank you! I'm just getting into modding cabinets and am wondering if you would recommend replacing the LCD monitor to a CRT monitor for better graphics? Keep up the great work!
Thanks! I have an updated version of this video uploading now and expected to be up Wednesday. Its more for Windows 10 and Launchbox front end users. I also link to the exact PC Ive been using in all of my cabinets now. I found a great one that's reasonably priced. The CRT would be better but I think Ive only seen one that was put into these cabinets. The weight would be a bit much for the cab, or at least that's what I'd think lol.
Not super computer inclined. But has Terrordrome rise of the boogie Men tried with this mod to run on the mk arcade . Playing a horror fighter on this would be sick !
I have a question about the ground screw.... can I use the same screw from the old card and screw the monitor controllers and ground cable on the wood panel just below the monitor? Practically, ground screw from the old card --> ground cable --> monitor controller card --> wood, this way nothing is moving.
Yeah that should work fine. Some monitors don’t have enough length to the cables to reach the wood. I prefer putting it on the wood below the monitor when possible.
Killer Arcade Games thank you for the answer, I was curious because everyone is using bolt and nuts and I was wondering if screwing directly on the wood was a problem
I made a mame cabinet back in '08. Really wanted Hyperspin, but got Maximus. Good front end! It can be a pain to add more roms to it. Would recommend putting every game you want on it during setup.
It was probably the exact same in 08 as it is now lol. It does the job. I don’t keep my cabinets on the front end screen. I always have them running whatever game matches the cabinet by default. Hyper spin is really good looking but it’s so much more difficult to install now.
Can you do the joysticks only? I got suckered into the Sanwa JLF clone which isn't any different than the stock MKII set with the exception of having LED buttons, which admittedly, I like.
Hello KAG, I just started to set up the joystick and buttons but I am a little confused. I figured out how to set up the joy sticks but not sure how to specifically set up the 6 main buttons like the game. High attack , low attack buttons. Is button 1 called button 1, button 2 called 2, etc? Is it that simple? Cause on your vid you did not go through entire input button set up. I just don't want to mess it up. :) Thanks!
In MAME? It depends on the game. But most games will go from top to bottom, left to right. So for Killer Instinct, its 1 is quick punch, 2 is medium punch, 3 is fierce punch, 4 is quick kick..etc. It's hard for me to say on each game. Mortal Kombat is difficult but I do go over those in the video at 31:00. The best advice I can give is to set your buttons on games you're not sure of, then test them. If they're wrong, take note of which ones aren't right, go back to the control set up menu is MAME (press tab, then select Controls (This game)) and change them. If you're really stuck on a game's set up you might try Google. I had some luck doing that when I set mine up.
@@KillerArcadeGames I happen to play your video again saw what you marked for P1 button 1 . After messing with buttons I figured it out by pressing the that certain to give me what i needed based on my wire set up. I will keep you posted. Thanks
Hey KAG! Just curious, did you have to drill holes for the joystick? and if you did what drill bit did you use? I got my HAPP joysticks from tornado terrys yesterday and I can line it up with the original holes..
I’ve never had to drill a hole for the joysticks. I just used the existing holes. If you need to drill a hole for one, it’s the same sized hole as the buttons. I’ve used this bit from Amazon: amzn.to/2ITwTuJ
@@KillerArcadeGames Thank you responding to me. For some reason, I cannot line up the joystick 4 big holes with the premade holes from the previous joystick..
Hello Chris, looks like I have to call tech support for maximus. Keep getting error and I can't figure it out. I did want to ask you about the lower button set up. I know that your lower left button is for coins which is selected in the input section under "coin 1" most likely . When it came to the lower right button used for "end and esc menu " which title did you designate the lower right button too? Thanks
Hmm, are you able to launch MAME games fro Maximus? I’m wondering if you need to double check the path to the MAME exe and ROM folder. Hopefully they’ll be helpful if that doesn’t fix it. You’re right about the left button being set to coin 1. You’ll set the lower right button in the Maximus settings. I set it to the “Quit executable” option in Maximus’ controller tab.
Hello KAG, I am still messing with set up. For some reason the set up is working opposite. for example P1 LEFT works when it's JOY 1 RIGHT . Not JOY 1 LEFT . Is it the wires , I have no clue? As if things have to be set opposite to work. Other problem I have is I can't get the 1st top left fight button to work for player 1 and 2 . By the way I still have to install the last 2 lower front buttons for coin and exit. Ran short of supplies. Thanks
This stick issue is probably the wiring. When you put the stick left, it presses the right switch in the joystick. You may have wired it backwards since its confusing when looking at it underneath. As far as the button goes...I'm not sure. I'd start by plugging the button into a different port on the board and see if it works. It's strange its happening to both player 1 and 2, I'm assuming P1 and P2 are separate boards. Did they not give you enough cables with the boards to connect the buttons? I noticed they did that to me with the MK2 cabinet. When I alerted them they said they'd correct it for future orders.
@@KillerArcadeGames The way you explained the joystick issue totally makes sense. I am glad that is all sorted out. I do have another question for you. I have noticed when first starting up my PC, I get a message that pops up saying : the following emulators have invalid media and executable locations. MAME The item listed above will not be available until the executable and media locations are fixed. Would you like to fix the settings? I assume this is because I don't have maximus completed yet? Thanks
Great Video. Helped me set up my own. I was able to get Blitz up and running, but cant get Blitz 99 or Blitz 2000 to work. Did you have any trouble? They both boot up and can go to pick a team, but when its time to take the field its frozen. Any help?
Hmm..that's interesting that Blitz works but not the newer ones. It's possible your PC is just not quite fast enough for the newer ones. I've been told by many that this PC works great for all 3 blitz games. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338450036&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue Does your working Blitz stutter or have sound issues while running?
is it possible to put PC games on here as well? I'm thinking specifically of games like Overcooked. That wouldn't be able to run through MAME though, I don't think. Is there a way to make it to where you can jump from MAME to the games without going to Windows directly? Sort of how Retropi will let you jump from multiple emulators? Or is that way too complicated/not possible?
Definitely! I had Mortal Kombat 4 (PC version) on this cabinet. I no longer use Maximus Arcade but when I did I just made a batch file that would essentially launch the game through the front end. Launchbox is what I use now, I have not tried setting up a PC game in it but I know it's possible. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you're using Maximus Arcade, Google how to create a batch file (its very easy) and set it up in Maximus.
Thanks. I’ve heard newer versions favor higher end PCs. That could be incorrect. I just happened to find this romset and it works well for my needs so I just stuck with it.
Can you also just leave the buttons and joystick or doesnt that work? And make the joystick stronger with a 4LB 1,8Kg Tension Spring voor Sanwa JLF & compatible Joystick?
Good afternoon, easy question today. Did you by chance upgrade your monitor on your K I build? By the way, I dropped another question on ya late last night regarding a pop up message. Not sure if you caught it? Thanks tremendously!
I’m using the stock monitor in all of my cabinets. I’m not sure about the pop up messages. I’d just keep going through the process and see if that fixes it.
@@KillerArcadeGames Very cool, I really do appreciate all the help on this K I build. Been wanting this game for a couple decades. If you are ever in need of a new car like a Jeep ,Dodge, Ram, or Chrysler, let me know. I would be able to get you an employee discount. I work in automotive design.
Too much lol. After shipping and buying all the parts it could easily be near $1k which seems crazy. This is only the second time I've done it. Both times took many hours to pull it off. I would be stressed trying to make a build look as good as possible for a buyer. I have considered making kits for easy modding but that's a long way off if I do it. For now, I'd say search Craigslist, I've seen several sellers offering modding services.
I would think this power button should turn on the pc as well, acting the same as if it were a power switch on a pc case. I am going to try to configure it this way. At 145 CFM, the usb fan is a beast, but you do fine without an exhaust fan?
It does work that way. I just don't need to boot my PC with the button since I set it to start up as soon as power is received. The cooling is the weakest point of this design, an exhaust fan is ideal in a set up like this. That said, the fan seems to do just fine with keeping the cabinet cool. My house is almost never warmer than 75 degrees, I don't run the cabinets 24/7 but when I've let them run for hours they never get too hot. I used my temperature gun on the outside of the cabinet and the highest I've recorded was maybe 90-95 degrees when shooting it near the motherboard's location. The funny thing is the hottest point is always the top of the cabinet where the light up marquee's LED strip is stuck. That gets to like 110F lol. But the PC is always at the bottom where its cooler.
@@KillerArcadeGames After some pondering I decided that a healthy dose of Orchid boob flash fatalities would necessitate the need of good cooling. I am going to put two 120mm fans over the bottom vents as exhaust, and two 140mm fans blowing air across the board. I think this should be more than adequate. Ideally, the exhaust vents should be at the top of the cabinet but getting power up there is the real challenge.
So i ordered the zero delay encoder with the pins. I tried to install my raspberry pi model 3+ with the pc. I was able to use player 1 side to get it connected to the retopie prgram. It configured all the buttons but the analog joystick i was not able to do. It has a 4 pin layout from the board. On the usb encoder i was sent it has a 5 pin layout to only plug into. The joystick on the arcade 1up looks like it has 2 of the 4 pin plug connection that will not plug anywhere on the usb zero delay i bought. Please give me an idea to get it so i can use the dragonrise controller i already have for the arcade 1up. Thanks.
Hmm..I'm not all that familiar with Pi's or even joysticks other than Happ. Did you buy the USB encoder boards that come with the blue and white wires?
Killer Arcade Games yes i did i think its the wrong type. It came with the blue and white wires. I need the type to wire for the drsgonrise default arcade 1up type
@@bwright5481 I did some research and it looks like they all have those 5 pin joystick ports now. When I first started modding these, I would get different boards but they've updated them all to be these black boards. You might try asking the people on this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/2768572869834975. Or just buy a 5 pin joystick.
Just curious; why are you using such an old version of MAME? They are in the 200s now. Are there not much difference in the MAME updates? Or roms just easier to source for 0.139?
This ROMset was much easier to find in my case. Once every game I wanted worked with it I just stuck with it. I've also heard that newer versions of MAME need more modern PC specs...that could be incorrect though. My next build will either be NFL Blitz or a shooter cabinet like Area 51. Both of those need higher end PCs to emulate those games and newer versions of MAME. I'll have to give it a shot then.
@@KillerArcadeGames thanks for the reply! One more quick question. Have you seen anything on the Costco Mortal Kombat machines as far as a video encoder that will work for the new monitor?
@@KillerArcadeGames I followed your excellent video and have MAME running perfectly on my desktop PC. However, I feel that scanlines would probably make games like Killer Instinct look a little smoother and more like they originally did in the arcade. There are other videos about HLSL on TH-cam but I like the way you present information better. Keep up the good work!
I will definitely try again soon. I bought a scan line generator but it actually made my USB ports stop working! I removed it quickly haha. Thanks for the compliment! I really appreciate that. I know I like a lot of information and minimal unnecessary info when watching tutorials so I attempt to make videos like that.
@@KillerArcadeGames Finally got HLSL to work but I had to switch to a newer version of MAME. The results are well worth it, though, because the games look MUCH better now. Presently I'm using the settings included in this video but I'm going to tweak them a little because I prefer a slightly brighter image. th-cam.com/video/8GdA657DZIw/w-d-xo.html
They don't play much different but the graphics do look better. The A1U hardware makes them look pixelated where the MAME/PC makes it look smoother and higher resolution.
I got the buttons configured correctly. some things I just simply missed, other was trial and error dealing with the USB encoder. As for the left,right ,up,down. its correct now but . Just have to set up maximus completely. Im calling it a night.
Nice! This can be a frustrating process. I made the video but still ran into weird stuff when doing this. This was my second build but still made mistakes! haha. I'm about to start another one soon...I'm sure I'll screw something up again haha!
I abolutely love your videos and tgis sold me on building a mame arcade since i am a huge ki fan. Maybe a stupid question but if i follow your link to the roms i can only see a complete list till the letter p so ni sfiii 😣. could you please post a link to the rest of them?.
Thanks Jeff! I don't know why you can't see beyond P...maybe try another browser? If not, you can try this ROM set, I use it for my newer PC builds now. It's MAME 202 so you'll need to grab that version: MAME .202 github.com/mamedev/mame/releases/download/mame0203/mame0203s.zip ROMs: mega.nz/#F!FfgijKqC!51MDp_BKVGoPYQsO7H_jiw CHDs: mega.nz/#F!8a4iVYqR!4WLns0myl2pJoTfLjb9xyQ
Thanks! You won’t need a special video card. Just get a decent processor. For reference, my AMD 4200+ 2.3ghz (it’s 8 years old) runs both KI1&2 with no issues.
Is there a way to mod an Arcade1Up to output the video to an external monitor as well as the internal screen? I'm interested in setting one up for game-night competitions but I'd need the video routed to an external monitor(s) so the audience can see what's going on.
If you're running a modded cabinet with a PC or Raspberry Pi you should be able to use this: amzn.to/2O2wfiQ It will split the HDMI signal to another monitor. I haven't tried that specific one but I've used similar one years ago for my Rock Band set up.
I only have one coin button. It works for both sides. It probably won’t work well if you’re trying to play 4 player games like TMNT where you’re required to insert coins in a specific slot to play a character. But, you can just get a 2 player version of most of those 4 player games, then it won’t matter which “coin slot” you give a credit to. You just select your character after inserting the coin.
Morning KAG, when looking to download a certain ROM game. A lot of times you will see several versions to download. For example, you may see several ROM versions of MK. How do you know which is the best one to download? Is it the 1st version/older date or do you choose the latest and greatest version? Does it depend if you are using a PC or PI? Thanks
That’s one of those things that will be tough to answer. I know for the MK games, I downloaded the ones that just said MK it MK2 since they’re the most commonly used versions. if you’re unsure, you can google the file name and you might find some info on it. Maybe try “MK.zip MAME” for example. I’m not home or I’d check my versions. I won’t be back until late today.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thanks for the info. Your quick responses has been very helpful. It allows me to keep working at a reasonable pace. Thanks again until next question.😁
Do you know if the control panel for the different cabinets are interchangeable? For example, will the Mortal Kombat control panel fit into the Atari Deluxe Edition cabinet? I own the Deluxe cabinet, but it doesn't have a joystick, so it will be pretty useless to mod it as-is for a MAME cabinet.
Yeah, it should fit just fine! Just about all of the cabinets are the same except for the newer ones like TMNT, Golden Tee and Star Wars. If you want to customize it more you could always order a custom control deck from here: www.tulsaarcades.com/arcade1upcontrol.html#/
Morning! I have a question regarding the 2 buttons on the front lower. I don't know if I missed it, but where do the wires from the 2 buttons get connected to in order to work? Thanks!
You can plug them in to either USB board, in any slot. You’ll be assigning the coin/exit stuff so it really doesn’t matter which port they go in. I just plugged them in to the closest point since the wires are short. They can even go into the same board, they aren’t player specific.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thanks once again for the quick response. The cabinet mod is coming along. I have my new control panel board and also a new clear cover to go over it. I cut out all the new holes on the clear cover. It looks great. Had to be careful on that material. Having the correct tools helped tremendously.😁
@@KillerArcadeGames I used almost the same cutter as you did but the teeth were shaped slightly different. But.... the main thing is to use something that can spin that cutter fast enough, like a drill press. Still have to take your time on setup ,etc. Easy to possibly mess up if you don't.
Dumb question - When you turn your PC off with the power button on top, wouldn't it just boot right back up since the power strip is still on or is there some type of delay there so you have time to flip the switch on the surge protector?
@@KillerArcadeGames Got it! So if my MAME front end offers a shut down option, I can just use that to shut down the machine, flip the surge protector to off. Next time I want to play, I just flip the surge protector to on and I'm ready to go! Thanks for the reply. I just wasn't sure how the motherboard would see the power and react, really appreciate the reply!
That should work just fine. As long as your motherboard is set up to turn on when power is restored. I’m pretty sure that part is covered in this video. Almost all motherboards I’ve used have that option, but not all are set to that by default so you may need to check that option.
@@KillerArcadeGames ok i’m getting a marvel vs capcom one tomorrow and i’m good with pcs; so im doing everything in this video most likely, what would i need for the stock arcade joy sticks to connect to the pc, thanks again im loving this im subscribed and following your journey, another new hobby lol
@@LVL100RED I’m not exactly sure which encoder board you’d need. I haven’t seen a newer gen A1U. I believe the joysticks connect like Sanwa sticks though. Most encoder board can accommodate that. I also recommend watching my newer video. I learned a little more and made an updated version: th-cam.com/video/wQgUvAtRVnA/w-d-xo.html
I like this computer: Amazon: amzn.to/2SECThf Ebay option: ebay.to/3owKNai I use these PCs on every build of mine now! Also, be sure to check out the new version of this video. I talk about this PC I use.
Ok yo I’m actually upset. I plugged all my things into the usb encoders like you said but my joystick only recognizes up, when I plug it back into street fighter to see if it was a wiring problem, everything works fine again?? Please help
Hmm...are you using the Arcade1Up joysticks? As far as I know, it should work just fine on the encoders. Are both boards/sticks doing the same thing when you plug them in?
Killer Arcade Games they were doing the same thing yes. I thin figured out the stupid devs who made my usb encoders put the joysticks adapter on wrong, so I pulled the apdapter off the board and turned it around and now it works good. Now I’m just waiting for my hdmi converger board! Thanks!!
I believe you can use the stock controls. I've never tried but I know for sure the buttons will work. The joysticks have different connections than Happ controls though.
Hi thanks for this video so I’m done my mod and have i5 4570 3.2ghz 240ssd. Everything works great, the only thing is the boot time, it takes almost a minute to boot up now it was once at 30seconds.. I took out explorer.exe and put bigbox direct startup, no internet connected. Works great tho just slow startup. Any ideas?
@@KillerArcadeGames yes I’m going to try to update the driver for the monitor I think that might be the issue. I have nothing loading other than windows 10 which is bare
That’s a truly weird problem. I can’t think of anything that would be causing it. I used to be huge in to Windows PCs but I really let myself slack on the knowledge after making Macs my main computers almost 10 years ago. I had to learn Windows 10 when I started using these new PCs and I can tell I’m not nearly as good as I was. I hate to even suggest this, but if it isn’t resolved you might back everything up and reinstall the OS. You should be able to drop everything back in place and have minor work to get it running again. You sound like you’re pretty good with PCs so you may get it before going that extreme.
Have you ever had an issue where when you go to open a game it seems to instantly crash? I can’t seem to get carnevil or the killer instincts to open. Mk 4 also runs very sluggishly despite my specs being good. I used the most recent version of mame
@@KillerArcadeGames I found out it was because I didn’t have the chd files for those games! They’re opening now I just need to figure out how to get carnevil controls to work lol. Mk4 is still slow though The cpu is amd fx 8370 which I know is a little bottlenecked. Gpu 1080ti and 16 gigs of ram
@@KillerArcadeGames that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I love the content; reignited my love for these games and the arcade world. Keep doing your thing
It can run console games. You'll have to find the console's emulators and ROMs, then set it up in the front end (Maximus Arcade). It's similar to setting up MAME though. So you could have an "Ultimate MK cabinet" by adding all of the console versions to it! If you want to run MK Gold from Dreamcast, you'll need a decent PC. Nothing too high end, the one I link to in the description should have plenty of power to run it. I've never had much luck running Dreamcast emulation but I haven't tried very hard either. The N64 emulator is very easy to setup.
That's a difficult one to answer. Since they're technically illegal, you have to explore some interesting areas of the internet lol. If you Google, you'll likely find what you need. Just beware of fishy links.
You can do it with any cabinet really. But you'll be limited in the games you can play with that PacMan joystick. If you just want to do it to add more PacMan games, it will work fine.
You wouldn’t have to change the controls, you’d still need to add a USB controller board to plug them into so you can connect it to a PC. The main reason I change them is I prefer the quality of the HAPP controls. They are far superior in my opinion.
Hey killer, i just purchase maximus arcade and after following your exact setup everything loads up fine games show up etc but as soon as i load a game it says loading then initializing then screen stays black and nothing happens from there. Ive tried everything. Any suggestions? Thx!
When you're in the Maximus configuration tab, select MAME from the drop down box, then go down to the bottom right of the screen. There should be a drop down box that says "Path to media" next to it. It's probably set to "short" trying changing it to "Long". See if that does it.
You can. I would suggest not removing the motherboard, just put the whole laptop in the cabinet. You won't be able to start the laptop with the button I link to but you could use a wireless mouse and just let it sleep.
I don't use those. You can wire them up but I'm not sure how to do it. I didn't want someone to be able to turn off my cabinet without properly shutting it down. I actually remove them on cabinets that I plan to reskin. That way the new art covers the holes.
@@KillerArcadeGames why can’t just wire it up to properly shutdown pc? Also you mentioned the same about volume but volume switch should change volume, not turn it off :)
@@KillerArcadeGames I know you can but on 38:09 they doesn’t look to be hidden... I can see them perfectly there. It will be easier if you would just say that you either don’t know how to do it or don’t have enough skills. If you’ve purchased cab that is 1/2 in size but still pretends that it’s full size cab because you have 17” screen and pretends that those power and volume switch don’t do anything like in real arcade cabinet then please explain what is your approach?
Nice modd. On my you tube channel iv done a bar top set up with 8000 games all with bezels and fully working. Let me know what you think. Im going to modd it soon and add a xbox one into the unit so i can switch between retro and new games all in one cab
Hello again, the MAME link you provided. once I clicked on it, it said be careful, site may contain malware etc. Did you skip that link and use the ROMS download link instead? Should I just goto the main MAME website and download the mame0139s.zip? Thanks!
@@KillerArcadeGames Well.... I have the MAME and the K. I . Zip file copied and pasted to the ROMS folder. My next question is , I went to the kinst.chd and when I clicked on it. Windows asked for what method I wanted to use to open it? I am not familiar with a chd file and what is best to open it. Thanks
I don't know of anywhere you can take it. Some sellers online offer premodded kits to retrofit your cabinet. You will still need to open it up and plug some stuff in. I'd always suggest just doing your own mod, especially if you have a specific theme in mind. Most of these sellers will only offer Sanwa (at best) controls instead of Happ (what was in almost every American arcade) controls. You'll likely be stuck with a Raspberry Pi which is fine if you only want to play much older games. IF you want Killer Instinct, you won't be able to run it on any Pi without some graphic/sound/overheating issues.
I mainly did it to add MK4 and a few other games, but also to make this video...and I hated the joysticks that came stock. It’s not for everyone, my way may not be how someone wants to mod the cabinet. But you can apply a lot of the important steps to whatever build you’re trying to do.
For reference, I use a PC that I built in 2008 for gaming. Its an AMD 4200+ Dual Core 2.3 Ghz with 2GB ram. It runs both KI 1&2 smoothly. If you need to buy one, this one on eBay has been pretty popular. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575465257&toolid=10001&campid=5338450036&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue
@@KillerArcadeGames Thank you so much for the info. Don't be surprised if you hear from me periodically, with questions. I am serious about making this build. Thanks again!
It’s an onboard GPU. MAME uses the CPU to emulate the original arcade’s hardware and hardly uses the GPU at all. If you’re building a PC for a MAME set up, I’d devote most of the money to the CPU.
Sold me on the MK2 cab with this. I was already strongly considering it but this mod tutorial really did it. Thank you for putting your time into such a great walkthrough!
Thanks!
As a builder and owner of an actual mame arcade machine. Simply meaning a actual full size arcade with CRT monitor etc running mame and all other consoles in native refresh rates and resolutions via groovymame mame and switch res . I can appreciate and respect this build and the time went into this video. Dont listen the clowns here and morons that want to complain about a machine that does what it was intended to do and nothing more..great vid man...
Thanks Robert! I’d love a real cabinet lol, I don’t have enough room. I know this won’t be for some people, I’m pleased with it and it’s as close as I can get with the space and skill limitations I have. This point was to show it can be done on a budget but still get some of the real feel. I’ve been lucky with this channel so far, TH-cam commenters can be vicious but most have been cool.
Jygutyfrrdse I’m planning on building my first Mame cabinet & im trying to do it as cheap as possible. Any advice?
Thank you so much for making such a detailed video. This must have been extremely time consuming to make. You explain everything with such great detail. I purchased the 12-1 cab and wanted to convert it in a bad way. Now I can play my 7k games from MAME. Thanks again.
Thanks for this, it did take FOREVER to make this video lol. I'm someone who likes a lot of detail when watching a tutorial so I made sure to offer as much detail as possible.
Stumble across this video, can’t wait to try this with my MK cabinet! If it works or not we we’ll see but appreciate the detail you put in on this video
It's worked for quite a few (thankfully) so you should be fine lol. Thanks for checking it out!
I forgot how funny the Mortal Kombat 4 sound effects were. Also nice build!
MK4 is great hahah Thanks man!
Personally I think the Mortal Kombat button layout would drive me nuts for other fighting games. I like the idea of a case less computer in the cabinet. Cool video guy!
I only used it for games that have the exact layout like War Gods, WWF WrestleMania. I have another machine with the 6 button layout for general emulation. These steps can be applied to any button config though.
i bought a 8 button layout for each player for my mk cabinet
Morning KAG, my questions have slowed down a bit due to the fact that I am making a new control panel and clear protective top. The new control board came out great and I love it more than original. Don't you worry, the questions will be back. haha Thanks!
Hahah sounds interesting! Send me pictures when you get it all set up. KillerArcadeGamesYT@gmail.com
@@KillerArcadeGames Will do! 👍
so informative im glue to this video despite of the duration
I’m glad to hear that! I tried to be sure to strike a balance of keeping it as brief as possible but still give enough information. I personally like a lot of detail when doing an expensive project like this. I wouldn’t want to get stuck at a point and have to hope someone could help me in the comments. If anyone has questions I do my best to answer or help with odd issues that may come up. I also try to reply to everyone’s comments on this channel.
Great one. Even that can be done on a My Arcade Bad Dudes one as long all MAMEs use a joystick and 2 buttons only as an explanation.
That’s true!
I am digging these ideas.. Now I don't wanna put a raspberrypi in my Street fighter cab..
If you're even remotely interested in running Killer Instinct, NFL Blitz or other late 90's arcades you should use a PC. The PC in my cabinets can't run Blitz, I'm about to buy this Core i5 Dell Optiplex from eBay. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338450036&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue I know it will run the Blitz series.
Finally did my happ controls today bro thanks to ur video ya i had the blue and white cords tested out the sticks and mame on mk everything is good now to hook up my 20 inch monitor and bezel and I'm all set I also have the same subwoofers you got
Nice! I'm glad it helped.
Killer Arcade Games lol had to order more buttons tho lol
Dang. I just wanna visit the old days of waiting in line to play ultimate mk and ki 1 lol. If I was knew tech savvy stuff I’d def do this. But I can’t even build my guitar pedals with instructions in front of me haha.
I know how you feel, I’m the same way with fixing cars lol. I shouldn’t even bother haha! I think the hardest part of this build is the software stuff. If you’re not great with Windows or comfortable with messing around with MAME (which isn’t very user friendly) you won’t enjoy doing this build. There’s an account on Instagram I know of that mods these cabinets and sells them. I have no idea if he ships them though. instagram.com/upstatearcademods?igshid=1863547exk3ur
Great job!!!👍....now I'm going to start on my arcade1up lol.
Nice!!
VERY NICELY DONE!!
Really thorough video. Thanks for spending time to do this. Wish I could give you 100K thumbs up.
Thanks, I wish you could too haha
I just want to let you know I mod my MK2 Cabinet following your instruction to have my dream cabinet and it's awesome. Thank you very much for putting such detailed instruction, The only part I wish I could have more detailed is on the frontend software which I still were not able to make it work and control properly with the buttons. Maybe you could do a video only for this part more indept. Anyway Big big thanks on your videos you doing a great job
That’s awesome! Which version of Windows did you try to use? I’m finding Maximus doesn’t work on Windows 10. I have another video planned to release within the next month to show people how to set up LaunchBox/BigBox and that has worked great on my Windows 10 PC.
I install Windows 7 64 bits. I would love to see your video on how to setup a front end.
Love your vids and mods!!! Its inspiring. Thanks for sharing!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you!
Great job. Thanks for the work you put into making the video. Very cool.
Thanks!
this is what i did with my arcade1up, , my pc specs are Athlon 3000g and RX570 and it runs pretty good, at a later date im going to put a Ryzen 5 3600x in my system. once the 4000 series comes out (in my main rig i have 3900x and the 3600x is my wifes, TLDR - gonna give her my 3900 once i get my 4000 series CPU and take out the athlon 3000g and save it as a backup incase a CPU dies.
also make sure you have a LOT of Ram, 32gb max
That's going to be a nice processor for emulating most arcade games. I'm starting to look in to Teknoparrot for those newer arcade games but I don't have dedicated GPUs in any of my cabinets.
Great video really enjoy your content keep up the good work
Thanks Jason!
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing
Thanks!
Finally! I've been waiting for an MK2 1up mod video. I've seen mods for the street fighter machine, but since the control panel is different on the mk2, this video really helps. I am using pandoras box, however. Still helpful,Thanks!
Hi, what's the title to your new build? You have a lot of new content, mostly curious about the PC you'd recommend. Thanks!
Here’s a link th-cam.com/video/wQgUvAtRVnA/w-d-xo.html
I really appreciate you showing me how to finally do it right I got a raspberry pi 3 b+ already in it and try with the PC but the button layout was not coming out right and I greatly appreciate you showing us how to do it I'm going to stay subscribing to your channel and supporting it and telling all my friends
Thanks for sharing and support this!
Perfect!!!!! It was hard to find your video but it's exactly what you needed. I'm riding one from scratch.
Nice! I'm not happy about it being hard to find lol.
I'm a bit confused on how I would go about using the controls/sticks-&-buttons the cabinet originally came with, rather than swapping them out.
I got the Marvel Superheroes Special Edition, that came with Sanwa controls, and so I'd like to keep them. Do I need a different encoder board/Is there one that simply plugs in where the old one did?
Or do I need to open it up and rewire some things (Like, to connect the controls as a separate player1/player2 set of buttons, I need to rewire things?)?...
Sorry if the question is a bit odd, love the tutorial, and just trying to make my dream arcade machine.
(Also, I assume placing the whole PC box in the empty cardboard back is okay if it fits)
You can use the original controls but you will need a USB encoder board to plug them in to. The joysticks probably have a single connector to plug right into the board for each one. Each button has to be plugged into the new boards like I show in the video. The power switch and volume switch won't work without some modifying of the wiring. I wouldn't recommend messing with that, I'd just use a power strip like I did. You can just put the whole PC in if it fits. I just bought one of the Dell Optiplex PC's I link to for a new build and it fits without removing it from the case.
@@KillerArcadeGames Fair enough, I assume I should then use the Sanwa usb encoder, given the controls are Sanwa?
(Also any small tips and tricks for the wiring not mentioned in the video, this'll be my first dive into hardware-modding aside from some Arduino/soldering )
Thanks for the reply, and the help!
Yeah, I’d get that bundle.
No special tips I can think of. It’s going to be easier since you’re using the stock controls.
Wow thanks so much. Why didnt i hear about you until today? LoL.
I dont own an arcade 1 up machine but I own a bartop arcade and id love to swap out the pandoras box and throw in a MAME software running on windows 10!.
But firstly i need to know how to setup mame!
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After looking at the raspberry 3 and retropie issues I'm looking to copy your design and go with a computer inside my Arcade1up. Not to familiar with what all Im talking about just yet but im getting there lol. Your games like Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat look like they run flawlessly. Anyways my question is how many MAME games do you think I could download and run clean going with the computer you recommended below? I was looking at your list on your system and while very impressed with whats on there, i was hoping I could get a few more like Pit Fighter, Tekken, and a few more. Great job on your build!
I think the PC is always going to be more reliable. If you choose to replace the hard drive with an SSD it will have no moving parts other than the fans. I run hard drives in mine right now and its still fine but those are the weak points for longevity in these. I've heard of Pi's overheating, not being able to emulate high demand games and other weird issues. They aren't for me. The PC I linked could absolutely run Pit Fighter, it should be fine with the early Tekkens. Tekken 4 and beyond may have trouble but I don't know for sure as I've never emulated them. It would be easier to tell you which games it definitely can't run, like, Mortal Kombat 4, NBA Showtime, Racing games like SF Rush games, Hydro Thunder (which can't be emulated by anything currently) and most games made after 1999ish. If you have any other's in mind just leave the comment and I'll see if I can get an answer. Thanks for checking it out!
@@KillerArcadeGames thanks for the info. I am looking to basically have all the games you have MK1,2,3, KI, KI2, different Street fighter verisons, maybe tekken 1,2,3, Pit-fighter, NBA Jams and a few others I can think of at the moment. And of course a few classics like Pacman, frogger, donkey kong, etc. I know the old games I wont have any trouble with but I guess my question is, will the computer you recommended in the comments below be able to take on 30-50 games and have all of them run smoothly like your does? Is 3.40 GHz a fast enough processor to support those? Will I be able to store that many games in one cabinet? Noob here lol.
I have trying to make my cabinet like your and it it coming along great so far, 75% complete or so but I did run into an issue. If you run the 3mm audio cable from the amp to the computer, where are you plugging in your computer speakers into? Also letting you know that the amp you listed doesnt have a 3mm plug, wondering if that was a mistake or am I missing something to go forward with the built. Cant thank you enough for your help.
Thanks a bunch. I appreciate you
Thanks Curtis!
Great video and thank you! I'm just getting into modding cabinets and am wondering if you would recommend replacing the LCD monitor to a CRT monitor for better graphics? Keep up the great work!
Thanks! I have an updated version of this video uploading now and expected to be up Wednesday. Its more for Windows 10 and Launchbox front end users. I also link to the exact PC Ive been using in all of my cabinets now. I found a great one that's reasonably priced. The CRT would be better but I think Ive only seen one that was put into these cabinets. The weight would be a bit much for the cab, or at least that's what I'd think lol.
I can't wait to do this. 🤘
Let me know how it goes!
Not super computer inclined. But has Terrordrome rise of the boogie
Men tried with this mod to run on the mk arcade . Playing a horror fighter on this would be sick !
Hey Steven, I'm sorry but I don't know if that would work with these type of cabinet. I had to Google the game, I'd never heard of it before.
Nice video very thorough
Thanks buddy!
great video. thanks for the info.
Thanks
I have a question about the ground screw.... can I use the same screw from the old card and screw the monitor controllers and ground cable on the wood panel just below the monitor?
Practically, ground screw from the old card --> ground cable --> monitor controller card --> wood, this way nothing is moving.
Yeah that should work fine. Some monitors don’t have enough length to the cables to reach the wood. I prefer putting it on the wood below the monitor when possible.
Killer Arcade Games thank you for the answer, I was curious because everyone is using bolt and nuts and I was wondering if screwing directly on the wood was a problem
You’ll know if it’s an issue, you’ll see noise on the screen. Lines and other stuff popping up.
i have mame running on my older pcs about 8 pcs and no need for Arcade1Up
You and eta prime are the best so far, but I’ll use your dDesign
Thanks! I originally used ETA Prime's instructions but changed things how I wanted it. I knew no one had done a PC build video yet so I made it.
I made a mame cabinet back in '08. Really wanted Hyperspin, but got Maximus. Good front end!
It can be a pain to add more roms to it. Would recommend putting every game you want on it during setup.
It was probably the exact same in 08 as it is now lol. It does the job. I don’t keep my cabinets on the front end screen. I always have them running whatever game matches the cabinet by default. Hyper spin is really good looking but it’s so much more difficult to install now.
Can you do the joysticks only? I got suckered into the Sanwa JLF clone which isn't any different than the stock MKII set with the exception of having LED buttons, which admittedly, I like.
I think that would work just fine. I'm pretty sure the Sanwa buttons plug in just the same as the Happ buttons do.
Hello KAG, I just started to set up the joystick and buttons but I am a little confused. I figured out how to set up the joy sticks but not sure how to specifically set up the 6 main buttons like the game. High attack , low attack buttons. Is button 1 called button 1, button 2 called 2, etc? Is it that simple? Cause on your vid you did not go through entire input button set up. I just don't want to mess it up. :) Thanks!
In MAME? It depends on the game. But most games will go from top to bottom, left to right. So for Killer Instinct, its 1 is quick punch, 2 is medium punch, 3 is fierce punch, 4 is quick kick..etc. It's hard for me to say on each game. Mortal Kombat is difficult but I do go over those in the video at 31:00. The best advice I can give is to set your buttons on games you're not sure of, then test them. If they're wrong, take note of which ones aren't right, go back to the control set up menu is MAME (press tab, then select Controls (This game)) and change them. If you're really stuck on a game's set up you might try Google. I had some luck doing that when I set mine up.
@@KillerArcadeGames I happen to play your video again saw what you marked for P1 button 1 . After messing with buttons I figured it out by pressing the that certain to give me what i needed based on my wire set up. I will keep you posted. Thanks
Hey KAG! Just curious, did you have to drill holes for the joystick? and if you did what drill bit did you use? I got my HAPP joysticks from tornado terrys yesterday and I can line it up with the original holes..
I’ve never had to drill a hole for the joysticks. I just used the existing holes. If you need to drill a hole for one, it’s the same sized hole as the buttons. I’ve used this bit from Amazon: amzn.to/2ITwTuJ
@@KillerArcadeGames Thank you responding to me. For some reason, I cannot line up the joystick 4 big holes with the premade holes from the previous joystick..
Hmm...can’t line up as in centering it? You can always email me pictures at killerarcadegamesyt@gmail.com
Hello Chris, looks like I have to call tech support for maximus. Keep getting error and I can't figure it out. I did want to ask you about the lower button set up. I know that your lower left button is for coins which is selected in the input section under "coin 1" most likely . When it came to the lower right button used for "end and esc menu " which title did you designate the lower right button too? Thanks
Hmm, are you able to launch MAME games fro Maximus? I’m wondering if you need to double check the path to the MAME exe and ROM folder. Hopefully they’ll be helpful if that doesn’t fix it. You’re right about the left button being set to coin 1. You’ll set the lower right button in the Maximus settings. I set it to the “Quit executable” option in Maximus’ controller tab.
Hello KAG, I am still messing with set up. For some reason the set up is working opposite. for example P1 LEFT works when it's JOY 1 RIGHT . Not JOY 1 LEFT . Is it the wires , I have no clue? As if things have to be set opposite to work. Other problem I have is I can't get the 1st top left fight button to work for player 1 and 2 . By the way I still have to install the last 2 lower front buttons for coin and exit. Ran short of supplies. Thanks
This stick issue is probably the wiring. When you put the stick left, it presses the right switch in the joystick. You may have wired it backwards since its confusing when looking at it underneath. As far as the button goes...I'm not sure. I'd start by plugging the button into a different port on the board and see if it works. It's strange its happening to both player 1 and 2, I'm assuming P1 and P2 are separate boards. Did they not give you enough cables with the boards to connect the buttons? I noticed they did that to me with the MK2 cabinet. When I alerted them they said they'd correct it for future orders.
@@KillerArcadeGames The way you explained the joystick issue totally makes sense. I am glad that is all sorted out. I do have another question for you. I have noticed when first starting up my PC, I get a message that pops up saying : the following emulators have invalid media and executable locations.
MAME
The item listed above will not be available until the executable and media locations are fixed. Would you like to fix the settings? I assume this is because I don't have maximus completed yet? Thanks
Question? At 9:01 when you hook up the new video encoder couldn’t you just use a hdmi wire instead of the vga cable?
You can, as long as your video board has HDMI. I used to always use VGA since I had the cables and my old PCs didn't have HDMI.
Killer Arcade Games You should have a port on your graphics card but I guess you don’t have one in every arcade can.
Great Video. Helped me set up my own. I was able to get Blitz up and running, but cant get Blitz 99 or Blitz 2000 to work. Did you have any trouble? They both boot up and can go to pick a team, but when its time to take the field its frozen. Any help?
Hmm..that's interesting that Blitz works but not the newer ones. It's possible your PC is just not quite fast enough for the newer ones. I've been told by many that this PC works great for all 3 blitz games. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338450036&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue Does your working Blitz stutter or have sound issues while running?
Give me some more videos!! Good stuff man
Thanks!
is it possible to put PC games on here as well? I'm thinking specifically of games like Overcooked. That wouldn't be able to run through MAME though, I don't think. Is there a way to make it to where you can jump from MAME to the games without going to Windows directly? Sort of how Retropi will let you jump from multiple emulators? Or is that way too complicated/not possible?
Definitely! I had Mortal Kombat 4 (PC version) on this cabinet. I no longer use Maximus Arcade but when I did I just made a batch file that would essentially launch the game through the front end. Launchbox is what I use now, I have not tried setting up a PC game in it but I know it's possible. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you're using Maximus Arcade, Google how to create a batch file (its very easy) and set it up in Maximus.
Awesome video! Why do you not use the latest version of Mame?
Thanks. I’ve heard newer versions favor higher end PCs. That could be incorrect. I just happened to find this romset and it works well for my needs so I just stuck with it.
@@KillerArcadeGames Ahh I see. Thanks for the clarification!
Can you also just leave the buttons and joystick or doesnt that work? And make the joystick stronger with a 4LB 1,8Kg Tension Spring voor Sanwa JLF & compatible Joystick?
You should be able to. They're just plug-n-play with the new Usb encoder boards. I had a guy recently tell me he used them and it worked fine.
Good afternoon, easy question today. Did you by chance upgrade your monitor on your K I build? By the way, I dropped another question on ya late last night regarding a pop up message. Not sure if you caught it? Thanks tremendously!
I’m using the stock monitor in all of my cabinets. I’m not sure about the pop up messages. I’d just keep going through the process and see if that fixes it.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thanks! , by the way, what is your next mod going to be?
NFL Blitz! And the other sports games.
@@KillerArcadeGames Very cool, I really do appreciate all the help on this K I build. Been wanting this game for a couple decades. If you are ever in need of a new car like a Jeep ,Dodge, Ram, or Chrysler, let me know. I would be able to get you an employee discount. I work in automotive design.
No problem Dwayne! Thanks for the offer, that sounds like a cool job! I just bought a new truck...damn haha.
Nice Video! How much would you charge to mod a cabinet?
Too much lol. After shipping and buying all the parts it could easily be near $1k which seems crazy. This is only the second time I've done it. Both times took many hours to pull it off. I would be stressed trying to make a build look as good as possible for a buyer. I have considered making kits for easy modding but that's a long way off if I do it. For now, I'd say search Craigslist, I've seen several sellers offering modding services.
I would think this power button should turn on the pc as well, acting the same as if it were a power switch on a pc case. I am going to try to configure it this way. At 145 CFM, the usb fan is a beast, but you do fine without an exhaust fan?
It does work that way. I just don't need to boot my PC with the button since I set it to start up as soon as power is received. The cooling is the weakest point of this design, an exhaust fan is ideal in a set up like this. That said, the fan seems to do just fine with keeping the cabinet cool. My house is almost never warmer than 75 degrees, I don't run the cabinets 24/7 but when I've let them run for hours they never get too hot. I used my temperature gun on the outside of the cabinet and the highest I've recorded was maybe 90-95 degrees when shooting it near the motherboard's location. The funny thing is the hottest point is always the top of the cabinet where the light up marquee's LED strip is stuck. That gets to like 110F lol. But the PC is always at the bottom where its cooler.
@@KillerArcadeGames After some pondering I decided that a healthy dose of Orchid boob flash fatalities would necessitate the need of good cooling. I am going to put two 120mm fans over the bottom vents as exhaust, and two 140mm fans blowing air across the board. I think this should be more than adequate. Ideally, the exhaust vents should be at the top of the cabinet but getting power up there is the real challenge.
So i ordered the zero delay encoder with the pins. I tried to install my raspberry pi model 3+ with the pc. I was able to use player 1 side to get it connected to the retopie prgram. It configured all the buttons but the analog joystick i was not able to do. It has a 4 pin layout from the board. On the usb encoder i was sent it has a 5 pin layout to only plug into. The joystick on the arcade 1up looks like it has 2 of the 4 pin plug connection that will not plug anywhere on the usb zero delay i bought. Please give me an idea to get it so i can use the dragonrise controller i already have for the arcade 1up. Thanks.
Hmm..I'm not all that familiar with Pi's or even joysticks other than Happ. Did you buy the USB encoder boards that come with the blue and white wires?
Killer Arcade Games yes i did i think its the wrong type. It came with the blue and white wires. I need the type to wire for the drsgonrise default arcade 1up type
@@bwright5481 I did some research and it looks like they all have those 5 pin joystick ports now. When I first started modding these, I would get different boards but they've updated them all to be these black boards. You might try asking the people on this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/2768572869834975. Or just buy a 5 pin joystick.
Just curious; why are you using such an old version of MAME? They are in the 200s now. Are there not much difference in the MAME updates? Or roms just easier to source for 0.139?
This ROMset was much easier to find in my case. Once every game I wanted worked with it I just stuck with it. I've also heard that newer versions of MAME need more modern PC specs...that could be incorrect though. My next build will either be NFL Blitz or a shooter cabinet like Area 51. Both of those need higher end PCs to emulate those games and newer versions of MAME. I'll have to give it a shot then.
@@KillerArcadeGames thanks for the reply! One more quick question. Have you seen anything on the Costco Mortal Kombat machines as far as a video encoder that will work for the new monitor?
Have you done a video on HLSL settings yet?
I haven't. I still haven't messed with them much. The one time I tried, it didn't work. I would like to get some scanlines going soon.
@@KillerArcadeGames I followed your excellent video and have MAME running perfectly on my desktop PC. However, I feel that scanlines would probably make games like Killer Instinct look a little smoother and more like they originally did in the arcade. There are other videos about HLSL on TH-cam but I like the way you present information better. Keep up the good work!
I will definitely try again soon. I bought a scan line generator but it actually made my USB ports stop working! I removed it quickly haha. Thanks for the compliment! I really appreciate that. I know I like a lot of information and minimal unnecessary info when watching tutorials so I attempt to make videos like that.
@@KillerArcadeGames Finally got HLSL to work but I had to switch to a newer version of MAME. The results are well worth it, though, because the games look MUCH better now. Presently I'm using the settings included in this video but I'm going to tweak them a little because I prefer a slightly brighter image. th-cam.com/video/8GdA657DZIw/w-d-xo.html
Do the games play better than the original Arcade 1 up games? I figured yes since the pc is more powerful.
They don't play much different but the graphics do look better. The A1U hardware makes them look pixelated where the MAME/PC makes it look smoother and higher resolution.
I got the buttons configured correctly. some things I just simply missed, other was trial and error dealing with the USB encoder. As for the left,right ,up,down. its correct now but . Just have to set up maximus completely. Im calling it a night.
Nice! This can be a frustrating process. I made the video but still ran into weird stuff when doing this. This was my second build but still made mistakes! haha. I'm about to start another one soon...I'm sure I'll screw something up again haha!
I abolutely love your videos and tgis sold me on building a mame arcade since i am a huge ki fan.
Maybe a stupid question but if i follow your link to the roms i can only see a complete list till the letter p so ni sfiii 😣.
could you please post a link to the rest of them?.
Thanks Jeff! I don't know why you can't see beyond P...maybe try another browser? If not, you can try this ROM set, I use it for my newer PC builds now. It's MAME 202 so you'll need to grab that version:
MAME .202 github.com/mamedev/mame/releases/download/mame0203/mame0203s.zip
ROMs: mega.nz/#F!FfgijKqC!51MDp_BKVGoPYQsO7H_jiw
CHDs: mega.nz/#F!8a4iVYqR!4WLns0myl2pJoTfLjb9xyQ
When i download the mk.zip file it just shows up as a folder with a zipper unlike yours shows a different icon
That should still be fine. It may be because of the software I have installed. Have you tried running the game yet?
u da mann, sir!!
Thank you sir!
I like your project! Do I need video card to play killer instinct?
Thanks! You won’t need a special video card. Just get a decent processor. For reference, my AMD 4200+ 2.3ghz (it’s 8 years old) runs both KI1&2 with no issues.
Is there a way to mod an Arcade1Up to output the video to an external monitor as well as the internal screen? I'm interested in setting one up for game-night competitions but I'd need the video routed to an external monitor(s) so the audience can see what's going on.
If you're running a modded cabinet with a PC or Raspberry Pi you should be able to use this: amzn.to/2O2wfiQ It will split the HDMI signal to another monitor. I haven't tried that specific one but I've used similar one years ago for my Rock Band set up.
Great !
Isn't the return to the game select screen button the player 2 coin button?
I only have one coin button. It works for both sides. It probably won’t work well if you’re trying to play 4 player games like TMNT where you’re required to insert coins in a specific slot to play a character. But, you can just get a 2 player version of most of those 4 player games, then it won’t matter which “coin slot” you give a credit to. You just select your character after inserting the coin.
Can i use my PC without taking it apart? I have a really nice gaming PC I want to install but Id rather leave it outside the cabinet And fully use it
Morning KAG, when looking to download a certain ROM game. A lot of times you will see several versions to download. For example, you may see several ROM versions of MK. How do you know which is the best one to download? Is it the 1st version/older date or do you choose the latest and greatest version? Does it depend if you are using a PC or PI? Thanks
That’s one of those things that will be tough to answer. I know for the MK games, I downloaded the ones that just said MK it MK2 since they’re the most commonly used versions. if you’re unsure, you can google the file name and you might find some info on it. Maybe try “MK.zip MAME” for example. I’m not home or I’d check my versions. I won’t be back until late today.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thanks for the info. Your quick responses has been very helpful. It allows me to keep working at a reasonable pace. Thanks again until next question.😁
What usb encoders did you use for the happ controls? I'm getting my set from tornado Terry to mod my mk cabinet only using a raspberry pi mod.
These should work great. I just ordered some last night and got them today! amzn.to/2S60qWB
Do you know if the control panel for the different cabinets are interchangeable? For example, will the Mortal Kombat control panel fit into the Atari Deluxe Edition cabinet? I own the Deluxe cabinet, but it doesn't have a joystick, so it will be pretty useless to mod it as-is for a MAME cabinet.
Yeah, it should fit just fine! Just about all of the cabinets are the same except for the newer ones like TMNT, Golden Tee and Star Wars. If you want to customize it more you could always order a custom control deck from here: www.tulsaarcades.com/arcade1upcontrol.html#/
For the HAPP Joystick/buttons, you HAVE to use a USB Encoder? You cannot use them on the stock board of the Arcade1Up correct?
Right, the Happ sticks use different wiring.
Morning! I have a question regarding the 2 buttons on the front lower. I don't know if I missed it, but where do the wires from the 2 buttons get connected to in order to work? Thanks!
You can plug them in to either USB board, in any slot. You’ll be assigning the coin/exit stuff so it really doesn’t matter which port they go in. I just plugged them in to the closest point since the wires are short. They can even go into the same board, they aren’t player specific.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thanks once again for the quick response. The cabinet mod is coming along. I have my new control panel board and also a new clear cover to go over it. I cut out all the new holes on the clear cover. It looks great. Had to be careful on that material. Having the correct tools helped tremendously.😁
What tool did you use to cut the cover?
@@KillerArcadeGames I used almost the same cutter as you did but the teeth were shaped slightly different. But.... the main thing is to use something that can spin that cutter fast enough, like a drill press. Still have to take your time on setup ,etc. Easy to possibly mess up if you don't.
Dumb question - When you turn your PC off with the power button on top, wouldn't it just boot right back up since the power strip is still on or is there some type of delay there so you have time to flip the switch on the surge protector?
It won’t turn back on without pressing the button again, or until you turn the power strip off and back on again.
@@KillerArcadeGames Got it! So if my MAME front end offers a shut down option, I can just use that to shut down the machine, flip the surge protector to off. Next time I want to play, I just flip the surge protector to on and I'm ready to go! Thanks for the reply. I just wasn't sure how the motherboard would see the power and react, really appreciate the reply!
That should work just fine. As long as your motherboard is set up to turn on when power is restored. I’m pretty sure that part is covered in this video. Almost all motherboards I’ve used have that option, but not all are set to that by default so you may need to check that option.
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Thanks!
do you have to change the controls? can use you stock with your pc and maybe an adapter ?
You don’t have to. I always do because I don’t like the controls.
@@KillerArcadeGames ok i’m getting a marvel vs capcom one tomorrow and i’m good with pcs; so im doing everything in this video most likely, what would i need for the stock arcade joy sticks to connect to the pc, thanks again im loving this im subscribed and following your journey, another new hobby lol
@@LVL100RED I’m not exactly sure which encoder board you’d need. I haven’t seen a newer gen A1U. I believe the joysticks connect like Sanwa sticks though. Most encoder board can accommodate that. I also recommend watching my newer video. I learned a little more and made an updated version: th-cam.com/video/wQgUvAtRVnA/w-d-xo.html
What computer should i get? I want to run the games smooth, especially killer instinct and blitz seem to give people problems. Thanks
I like this computer: Amazon: amzn.to/2SECThf
Ebay option: ebay.to/3owKNai I use these PCs on every build of mine now! Also, be sure to check out the new version of this video. I talk about this PC I use.
Ok yo I’m actually upset. I plugged all my things into the usb encoders like you said but my joystick only recognizes up, when I plug it back into street fighter to see if it was a wiring problem, everything works fine again?? Please help
Hmm...are you using the Arcade1Up joysticks? As far as I know, it should work just fine on the encoders. Are both boards/sticks doing the same thing when you plug them in?
Killer Arcade Games they were doing the same thing yes. I thin figured out the stupid devs who made my usb encoders put the joysticks adapter on wrong, so I pulled the apdapter off the board and turned it around and now it works good. Now I’m just waiting for my hdmi converger board! Thanks!!
So i dont need to drill new holes to change put the buttons
Right, the button holes are standard sized.
@@KillerArcadeGames other people told me i would have to have 2 holes for a player 1 and 2 select button
I suppose you would need extra buttons in that case. I thought you were asking if the holes would fit different buttons. Sorry!
@@KillerArcadeGames its ok fam i got the mortal kombat arcade machine i wanna mod it because yo set is so fucking dope!!!
Would you have to swap out the controls or can you use the Arcade 1Up provided ones?
I believe you can use the stock controls. I've never tried but I know for sure the buttons will work. The joysticks have different connections than Happ controls though.
Hi thanks for this video so I’m done my mod and have i5 4570 3.2ghz 240ssd. Everything works great, the only thing is the boot time, it takes almost a minute to boot up now it was once at 30seconds.. I took out explorer.exe and put bigbox direct startup, no internet connected. Works great tho just slow startup. Any ideas?
That’s interesting. I’ve never had that happen. It’s being shut down properly, right?
@@KillerArcadeGames yes I’m going to try to update the driver for the monitor I think that might be the issue. I have nothing loading other than windows 10 which is bare
That’s a truly weird problem. I can’t think of anything that would be causing it. I used to be huge in to Windows PCs but I really let myself slack on the knowledge after making Macs my main computers almost 10 years ago. I had to learn Windows 10 when I started using these new PCs and I can tell I’m not nearly as good as I was. I hate to even suggest this, but if it isn’t resolved you might back everything up and reinstall the OS. You should be able to drop everything back in place and have minor work to get it running again. You sound like you’re pretty good with PCs so you may get it before going that extreme.
Bro nothing happens when I press the buttons, only some of them configure. Need help pls
Have you ever had an issue where when you go to open a game it seems to instantly crash? I can’t seem to get carnevil or the killer instincts to open. Mk 4 also runs very sluggishly despite my specs being good. I used the most recent version of mame
I haven't had that issue. What are your PC specs?
@@KillerArcadeGames I found out it was because I didn’t have the chd files for those games! They’re opening now I just need to figure out how to get carnevil controls to work lol. Mk4 is still slow though
The cpu is amd fx 8370 which I know is a little bottlenecked. Gpu 1080ti and 16 gigs of ram
Oh yeah, those CHD files are confusing. MK4 isn't emulated well so it may just be that.
@@KillerArcadeGames that makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I love the content; reignited my love for these games and the arcade world. Keep doing your thing
I’m new to this type of thing be I am very interested. Will this mod also be able to run games like MK Trilogy, or only arcade games?
It can run console games. You'll have to find the console's emulators and ROMs, then set it up in the front end (Maximus Arcade). It's similar to setting up MAME though. So you could have an "Ultimate MK cabinet" by adding all of the console versions to it! If you want to run MK Gold from Dreamcast, you'll need a decent PC. Nothing too high end, the one I link to in the description should have plenty of power to run it. I've never had much luck running Dreamcast emulation but I haven't tried very hard either. The N64 emulator is very easy to setup.
Noice, thanks... where is a good spot to get good emulators and roms?
That's a difficult one to answer. Since they're technically illegal, you have to explore some interesting areas of the internet lol. If you Google, you'll likely find what you need. Just beware of fishy links.
Can I run Maximus arcade emu’s in raspberry pi 4? I put retropie in it but none of the emu work.
for the 30 day trial, could you just use different emails each time the trial runs out or are they better about that??
You probably could. They don't seem to support this much anymore. I'd personally just pay the $5...and I'm pretty cheap haha.
Can you do tbis with tbe pacman 40th anniversary machine?
You can do it with any cabinet really. But you'll be limited in the games you can play with that PacMan joystick. If you just want to do it to add more PacMan games, it will work fine.
Do you have to change the controls or can you keep the controls that came with the machine?
You should be able to keep them with no issues. But you will still have to buy the USB encoder boards to plug them into a PC.
Would a Dell I5 Run Killer instinct and PlayStation games ok?
An I5 is over kill for KI. I can't say for sure if the Playstation stuff will work since I've never tried. If its PS1, I'd assume it will work great.
im not electrical literate, why you need to change the conroller if you gonna put the same button again?
You wouldn’t have to change the controls, you’d still need to add a USB controller board to plug them into so you can connect it to a PC. The main reason I change them is I prefer the quality of the HAPP controls. They are far superior in my opinion.
@@KillerArcadeGames oic. thanks
Hi I have a question can I put only the games I want?
Yep! Just add the ROMs for the games you want and that's all you'll have on there.
How about using linux ? I dont have any windows authentication codes.you tried using batocera or recalbox?
I’ve never used Linux but I’m sure you can make it work. I don’t know if Maximus Arcade works for Linux though.
Run windows in shell mode and you wont have issues of popups and it will immediately boot to mame
I'll look into this. Does shell mode still require a clean shut down?
Hey killer, i just purchase maximus arcade and after following your exact setup everything loads up fine games show up etc but as soon as i load a game it says loading then initializing then screen stays black and nothing happens from there. Ive tried everything. Any suggestions? Thx!
Hmm...Can you load MAME and start games without using the front end?
@@KillerArcadeGames yup. Man dude i have tried everything. Ive been messing around with this all day. So frustrating.
When you're in the Maximus configuration tab, select MAME from the drop down box, then go down to the bottom right of the screen. There should be a drop down box that says "Path to media" next to it. It's probably set to "short" trying changing it to "Long". See if that does it.
@@KillerArcadeGames did that too and still nothing lol
Man...the last thing I can say is move your MAME folder somewhere else on your PC. Then update it's location on your Maximus software.
Attempting to do this........🤞😁
You got it!
I have a question couldnt you just use a laptop instead of a PC?
You can. I would suggest not removing the motherboard, just put the whole laptop in the cabinet. You won't be able to start the laptop with the button I link to but you could use a wireless mouse and just let it sleep.
And what about power and volume switches?
I don't use those. You can wire them up but I'm not sure how to do it. I didn't want someone to be able to turn off my cabinet without properly shutting it down. I actually remove them on cabinets that I plan to reskin. That way the new art covers the holes.
@@KillerArcadeGames why can’t just wire it up to properly shutdown pc? Also you mentioned the same about volume but volume switch should change volume, not turn it off :)
I think you could. I just want those controls to be hidden. I know it’s dumb but I’d like it to function a lot like a real arcade.
@@KillerArcadeGames I know you can but on 38:09 they doesn’t look to be hidden... I can see them perfectly there. It will be easier if you would just say that you either don’t know how to do it or don’t have enough skills. If you’ve purchased cab that is 1/2 in size but still pretends that it’s full size cab because you have 17” screen and pretends that those power and volume switch don’t do anything like in real arcade cabinet then please explain what is your approach?
Nice modd. On my you tube channel iv done a bar top set up with 8000 games all with bezels and fully working. Let me know what you think. Im going to modd it soon and add a xbox one into the unit so i can switch between retro and new games all in one cab
Thanks. Bar top was the route I was going to go before the A1U cabinets came out. I’ll check it out!
Hello again, the MAME link you provided. once I clicked on it, it said be careful, site may contain malware etc. Did you skip that link and use the ROMS download link instead? Should I just goto the main MAME website and download the mame0139s.zip? Thanks!
🧐 that’s interesting. I’m out and can’t try it on my computer. You can just go grab it directly. I’ll have to see what’s up with that link later.
@@KillerArcadeGames Thank you for such quick responses. I am sure this won't be my last question.😁
No problem!
@@KillerArcadeGames Well.... I have the MAME and the K. I . Zip file copied and pasted to the ROMS folder. My next question is , I went to the kinst.chd and when I clicked on it. Windows asked for what method I wanted to use to open it? I am not familiar with a chd file and what is best to open it. Thanks
No need to open the Chd file. Just paste it in the ROMs folder.
Just purchased final fight arcade, where can I take it to get it modified ? I’m in southern San Diego
I don't know of anywhere you can take it. Some sellers online offer premodded kits to retrofit your cabinet. You will still need to open it up and plug some stuff in. I'd always suggest just doing your own mod, especially if you have a specific theme in mind. Most of these sellers will only offer Sanwa (at best) controls instead of Happ (what was in almost every American arcade) controls. You'll likely be stuck with a Raspberry Pi which is fine if you only want to play much older games. IF you want Killer Instinct, you won't be able to run it on any Pi without some graphic/sound/overheating issues.
I would never do this to the mk cab.
I mainly did it to add MK4 and a few other games, but also to make this video...and I hated the joysticks that came stock. It’s not for everyone, my way may not be how someone wants to mod the cabinet. But you can apply a lot of the important steps to whatever build you’re trying to do.
Exactly, besides that its not a mod its a conversion as its no longer running the Arcade1up system.
Is there a way to use the stock joystick and buttons?
I think you can. They should just plug right into the USB encoder board.
You mentioned that a PC is needed instead of the Pi. Could you please tell me what type of PC and it's requirements needed to do my K I build? Thanks
For reference, I use a PC that I built in 2008 for gaming. Its an AMD 4200+ Dual Core 2.3 Ghz with 2GB ram. It runs both KI 1&2 smoothly. If you need to buy one, this one on eBay has been pretty popular. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575465257&toolid=10001&campid=5338450036&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F332719658669%3Ful_noapp%3Dtrue
@@KillerArcadeGames Thank you so much for the info. Don't be surprised if you hear from me periodically, with questions. I am serious about making this build. Thanks again!
@@KillerArcadeGames Do you have a preference when it comes to Windows 7 or 10 for this build?
I don’t have a lot of experience with Windows 10 so I’d say Windows 7.
No problem, ask away!
Wheres your gpu?? Installed at or is it board gpu
It’s an onboard GPU. MAME uses the CPU to emulate the original arcade’s hardware and hardly uses the GPU at all. If you’re building a PC for a MAME set up, I’d devote most of the money to the CPU.