I'm of the opinion that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be held financially and legally responsible for anyone who becomes ill or dead that come in contact with the child.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know people whose unvaccinated kids caught whooping cough from a vaccinated kid. That vaccinated kid spread whooping cough all around his school. The state health department even admitted that that was not an unusual occurrence. I guess his parents should have been given all the medical bills and arrested, huh?
@@AS-yz2iz Yes, they should have. It’s like leaving a gun in a locked safe with the safety on vs on the table safety-off. A child might be able to get into that safe and a accident,y shoot themselves…but do you really consider it the same negligence as the person that left it on the table?
@@Orinatl There are thousands of children who don't get vaccinated and don't die of these childhood illnesses. You're being ridiculous. The mortality rate for measles dropped to almost 0 BEFORE the vaccine was introduce. Most of the eradication of those diseases is due to better sanitation improved diets, and advancements in medical treatment. Almost nobody does if they contract these diseases nowadays.
@@AS-yz2iz You do know that even a vaccinated person can spread the disease without knowing it, right? The vaccine helps (in most cases) fight off the disease better. And lowers the chance you can transmit the virus, but it does not remove you as a carrier 100%. Now, if the kid's parents, from your story, sent him to school knowing he was contagious, then they should receive some sort of punishment. But good luck proving the intent. Or negligence. Prior to Covid, in my country, there were cases every year when parents sent their kids with high temperatures and coughing to school. Even clear signs of childhood diseases. Not to mention lice.
You're right he shouldn't have spoken to you that way. Now if you will excuse me I need to get tested for the same virus that your kid and their teacher have
Absolutely, but it's more the system than the parents. In Australia, it's free and universal. But in America, one shot that costs less than a dollar can be up to $60; more if it's a compound-shot. This anti-vax movement is really just parents who would rather spend $10 on essential oils than hundreds of dollars in vaccination. It's shit but true.
@@lorihopkins6328 indeed some hospitals even have viruses Immune to drugs in their environment but because nearly everybody has bean vaccinated their mostly safe you brought a cave man or somebody like an unvaccinated kid in and the spend a few weeks their they would get it and be violently ill it depends on the virus tho.
Will is right … “you don’t want your child to be vaccinated so your child could be safe but it’s ok for you to put everyone else around your child at risk”. For the first time, Will hit the point.
I love the fact that the parents can act like smartasses without consequence but as soon as will did it right back it’s “unprofessional” and the parents play the victim, ppl like that piss me off!
So, if someone bullies someone to the point that the bullied kid bring a gun at school followed by everyone saying he is a monster for doing that, do you think they are being smartasses?
I find it funny how u dont understand the power of study. Ive been ti doctors who didnt even find out what my health issues was until I did myself. Yall think doctors arent wrong well they are at many times. Vaccines dont do shit but harm u. So lets stop the u need to vaccinate type of shit cause to each their own. And he was very unprofessional talking that way to the parents in the end.
@@norajeffry7368 yeah but these parents had no respect so what gives them the right to speak about medicine when they don’t know how vaccines work either vaccine or don’t vaccine don’t put a child’s life at risk
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww i dont think the doctors are the parents either. And as well is having a vaccine gonna help here here or medecine. Like why jump to vaccines? If a vaccine is sepose to save this childs life then maby yes I can agree but if there other options then lets jump to that. And I didnt say risk a life I dont agree with risking a life
"left alone, the body has a perfectly good immune system" says the man currently watching his child die of a preventable illness because the body's immune system left alone isn't enough to fight off the infection
@@nicholerubes2959 More specifically they don't improve the immune system but they allow the immune system to skip the early phases of the illness, where it's trying to figure out what the illness is, and just go straight to fighting it. It's like giving the immune system an educational flier. That early phase is also where the illness is easiest to overcome and hasn't done as much damage yet, so your immune system has the best chance of fighting it off then, but the immune system itself isn't any "better", just forewarned.
@@LyingTube Actuactly having the information of what to attack at the early stages does improve the immune system. The more the immune system knows the better chances it has to naturally fight back
The thing is, he's right. If you don't do anything to the immune system, it's an incredible machine for controlling malignant microbes, fungi, and particles (viruses are a very odd existence). Vaccination is not messing with the immune system, it's updating its' enemies list.
"Left alone, the body has a perfectly good immune system". Before vaccinations the average life spam of a human being was 28 years according to Greek records. That's the perfectly good immune system at work.
As a kindergarten teacher, the scissors are dull and probably have bits of playdoh gunking them up. We do have a box cutter, but knowing what that’s been used for, that’s the last resort of last resorts. 🤦🏻♂️
@@LunaGrape thats a dangerous path, what if I made detailed threats about how I wanted to kill someone? should threatening to kill someone be free speech? Should racially vilifying someone be free speech? No? then stop going on about unlimited speech
@@avgfree21 criminal threats are actually not protected under free speech in the US, but there is freedom of expression and opinion. We can believe whatever we want, but we cannot threaten violence
I heard a story of a woman who refused to vaccinate her child against tetanus. The child caught tetanus and died. This is serious. The average lifespan used to be 40 not because people lived half as long, but because half them died from preventable childhood illness before widespread vaccination.
Here’s a better one a family chose not to vaccinate their child from tetanus. He got a serious cut from a farm implement. They still would not vaccinate him. He got lockjaw. Was hospitalized for a months at a cost of a 1/2 million dollars. After he got out of the hospital they still refused to give him the second shot of the vaccine.
I worked at a Halloween scare trail as a car crash victim. One time I was pounding on the wooden fence to scare some people and ended up hitting a rusty nail. It went right into the side of my hand. The doctors said I was extremely lucky to have had the vaccine.
Parent : " we won't Vaccinate our child because we don't know what's in those Vaccines or what the long term effects are" Child ends up in the hospital with something they could have been Vaccinated against Parent "Please help our child" Doctor :" Well, there is a Medication that we would normally give, however we cannot give it to your child " Parent:" Why?!?" Doctor:"Oh because we don't Know exactly whats in it or what long term effects could be caused by giving it, sorry"
Exactly. I don't get how people think they know better about health to refuse vaccination (bonus on not being immunocompromised), yet expect doctors with better knowledge on health and medication to help them.
@@kikikaichan true but vaccines don't prevent illnesses just lessens the chance of them becoming sick. However if your child does get sick you shouldn't have them around other kids.
an alternative would be. ow we have the fancy Medication that can cure them however you child is not Immune to the virus that cure said illness soo sorry. if they got the Immunity said cure would work and have ether short term illness or nothing wrong and they would get better. but the fault solely lies with them.
I've met plenty of anti vax parents who gave me the exact same look, didn't work though I still told them they are bad parents and reported them to social services for child neglect
I don't understand parents who don't want to protect their kids and all other kids they come in contact with it's absolutely disgusting. I am not a parent, but I do have a degree in early childhood education and this makes me so angry.
@@kimberleyike2168 but it puts other kids and other people at risk. There are people who can’t get vaccinated because they are immunocompromised or allergic to something in the vaccine. People need to get vaccinated to get herd immunity and protect the people who can’t. The more people who vaccinate the better.
@@rachelcookie321 there is risks to vaccinating and risks to not vaccinating. The parent needs to make that decision on what’s best for their child. To some the risks outweigh the benefits and vise versa.
@@rachelcookie321 or just get sick and get over it to get herd immunity. Vaccines have side effects. Ive never got a flu shot and have never gotten sick from the flu even after taking care of people who testes positive for the flu. The last time i got sick was from a vaccine
@@slyfox4564 the risks of getting ill greatly outweigh the risks from the vaccine. You can get immunity by getting the illness but that means you have to go through being sick first and risking passing it to other people. Many vaccines work by having a bit of the illness inside it but removing the contagious part, that way your body learns how to fight it off better. It just boosts your immune system.
I find it both funny and annoying how parents like that think, "We don't want to vaccinate our kids, they have a perfect immune system without it" and all I can think of is uh yeah so perfect that they got sick from an easily prevented illness and the fact that those type of parents are vaccinated themselves
true tho their is merit as they may end up with a stronger Immunity then other kid tho it a trial by fire and stupid action on their part most children vaccines are viruses or similar in order to create herd immunity for those that don't have immunity.
Yet you don't stop to think that in the Amazon rain Forrest there are untouched unvaccinated tribes who've never vaccinated their children and they are perfectly fine. 🥰
@@jazzluva3437 it's actually Middle Kills Day, it's Blackfoot. But my father does shorten his to just Day most of the time because he doesn't feel like saying the whole thing lol
I had a 17 year old patient once who came in to pick up his vaccine record for college. It was quite a scene when he started freaking out on his mother when he realized that he had not been vaccinated for everything. “Mom ARE YOU NUTS?! Why didn’t you tell me about this?!” Yikes. 🤭
Actually I'm glad that 17 year old scolded his mom for keeping something this important information from him because he understands the consequences of his Mom's actions and thinking its ok to not give him the medical treatment that he was supposed to get to protect his health
Thank goodness the next generation of that family won't be a bunch of anti-vaxxers. Good on the kid. That mother was incredibly reckless. It's one thing to not vaccinate but why keep it from the person who isn't getting the vaccinations. He might have done something assuming he was vaccinated and gotten seriously ill. What is wrong with these people? The problem is you can't prove it when it works. If it works nothing will happen. The problem is that with most other people getting vaccinated it also means anti-vaxxers will think they're right not to do it since they can't get sick if everyone around them has their shots up to date. But you just know if they actually get sick it'll be because of anything but their negligence. I can't stand it!
@@AS-yz2iz having a healthcare provider tell someone like this the stupidity and risk of anti-vax? Yes they do! Now more than ever! And parents like this end up with either a dead child or having their children taken away by social services…it’s more or less the same as not letting us treat your child because of some backwards views,”oh well my child has cancer but you can’t treat it,that’s poison,it’ll go away with wheatgrass and ginger”(and no I’m not making this scenario up,wish I was)
@@buffya8012 First of all, I was talking about the specific scenario of the show, im not the talk by the Drs. Secondly, I know a lot of parents who don't vaccinate. Their children haven't died, gotten any sicker with childhood diseases than vaccinated children, and they certainly haven't had their children taken away by social services! Lol. What world are you living in? Fantasy Land? It is nothing like child abuse as there is a statistically low chance of getting there diseases any more, let alone dying from them.
@@hblake5213 they know an unvaccinated child can kill others and themself. If they refuse to acknowledge it tbst doesn’t mean it’s not murder. Still is.
@@amuletteastynomia2571 yes it does, murder is a specific crime in which you intend to kill the other person. knowing something can lead to someone's death and letting happen anyway doesn't actually fall in that category.
If someone is hurt when a routine vaccine could have prevented it, the parents should be held responsible. If you don’t give your children the vaccine, you’ll risk criminal charges if your gamble doesn’t pay off.
Doctors have to deal with this quite often in real life, I have so much respect for them. The restraint that it takes to continue being polite and professional is extremely impressive.
It's very rare and hard to find luckily the anti vax and flat earthers are almost gone unfortunately it's been replaced by these crazy blue haired terrorists destroying property and attempting to take control of areas.
anti vaxxers are also narcissists cause they think they're right and that they alone know more than someone who has done year and I mean years of research on bacteria and viruses and how to fight them
Some counties in the US require them to be in public school but parents like these ones have their holistic healthier doctors forge vaccine cards so their kids can go to school and then those kids infect other kids and staff. Malaria has reared its ugly head in the states again after being wiped out decades ago because of parents like them.
@E Sanford16 like the doctor said you just want everyone else to get the vaccination but y'all don't then when you come across someone's helpless child who hasn't reach the age yet to get the vaccination you infect them.
Assuming the premise that "a parent has the right to choose not to vaccinate their children" is true, then public school funding need not teach their children. We all pay into that, we all want our kids as safe as medically possible. Also, gotta love how these parents are anti-vaxx but came to a hospital for treatment, where are their essential oils now?
"We've done our research" That's great, we have doctors who go through years and years of higher education and experience to prove to you that you are wrong.
Absolutely, and that poses an issue for people who cannot get vaccinated. Like the chronically ill and poverty line. In Australia, it's free and universal. But in America, one shot that costs less than a dollar can be up to $60; more if it's a compound-shot. This anti-vax movement is really just parents who would rather spend $10 on essential oils than hundreds of dollars in vaccination. It's shit but true.
@@katherinegeorge2400 no, they look up studies to confirm their information. All doctors double check to make sure of their diagnosis as there can be many different issues presenting the same. So your doctor wants to make sure there isn’t new information available. You on the other hand googled until you found something that matched what you wanted, regardless of the fact that it was completely out of context or an out right lie and proclaimed that you were smrter than doctors.
It's always interesting in the cases where parents who don't want their children to be vaccinated were actually vaccinated as a children, so they're moreover safe from the very diseases they don't want their kids to be exposed to. Idk if this is the case for this fictional couple, but like......how many anti vaxxers are out here vaccinated or at least had been vaccinated (and therefore, safe) in their youth while they potentially endanger their children (and other people)?
Look into the History of medicine and you won't be saying that. Doctors have been wrong a multitude of times..they do NOT know all. They DO harm..many people. Their Hippocratic oath means nothing to most of them.
My answer: Do you have better alternatives? Like it or not, you came to this hospital, you heard the answer, and refused. It's either your daughter healthy and alive. Or a risk of a counts of many deaths by one if your own.
Maybe we should start with making it mandatory for adults first! They can catch and spread diseases as easily as children. What makes over 18 any safer? Oh right, we can't force an adult like we can a child!
When I moved from the Midwest to Florida my old high school gave my parents a packet with everything ( including my vaccinations paperwork) and they even looked through it to be sure everything was there. A week into the school year after moving I was stopped on a Thursday and told they didn’t have my vaccinations paperwork and if They didn’t get it then I’d be kicked out till they did the school even called my parents saying the same thing. That Friday my parents called my old high school in Indiana and asked them if they put my vaccinations paperwork in the packet and they did I believe the same day my old high school called the high school I was going to and the next week on Monday I was stopped again and told by a complete miracle they found my vaccinations paperwork in the packet my parents gave them from my high school in Indiana. Vaccinate your kids parents! Don’t want to ruin their education or homeschool them.
2 things too say: 1.I think it should be illegal to deny vaccination if it’s Easy to spread. 2.if the parents/guardians speak to doctors in a mean way the doctor can respond with aggressive language if necessary and the parents with the patient safely transported to a different hospital or be provided with a different doctor
I'd love to see how confident the parents are in antivaxing if presented with, "Okay, let's take your kid off the machines keeping them alive and see how their natural immune system does".
That female doctor has no right to defend the parents as she yelled almost the exact same thing to the parents of an unvaccinated boy in an earlier or a later episode
Legally she’s supposed to. Its a the law to be able to deny anything you don’t want don’t medically. Doctors only are taught modern medicine I think if one decides to make the choice not to vaccinate they should know another approach of how to heal tho. Research is key.
@@Melaninkumi the kid got antibiotics. That's the treatment. Vaccines aren't treatments, they are prophylaxis. And parents who don't vaccinate their children should have their parental rights revoked
Well if the natural immune system is so wonderful, how come your kid is sick? Why does anyone get sick? Have them arrested for child neglect and have the kids put in care.
My rule, if your kid is unvaccinated and it’s not due to a medical reason your rights as a parent are terminated because you’ve shown your incapable of properly caring for a child
Agreed that there should be mandatory vaccines for specific diseases, but if you think Polio and Covid are on the same level, you are sadly delusional.
I struggle to understand people who are anti vaccination but will go too the hospital and seek medical help. Surely if you don't trust what's in medicines or drugs for your children as babies why would you go too a doctor and allow them to put drugs into your child now.
The answer is because they actually care about their children. And in their warped mind not vaccinating them is the best thing for them. But of course when they’re sick and dying, they think hospital. Many won’t accept the fact that they’re wrong. Remember anti-VAX or‘s and the distrust of the medical system and the government into their conspiracy theory.
4:05 "He has no right to speak to us like that." (What I wish Natalie had said) "And you have no right to absolve yourselves of blame, but here we are."
Also another reason why I couldn't I be a doctor dealing with people like this I legit would probably lose my job too quickly because I have to deal with people who are like this
Personally, I am allergic to several things. And when the time comes (twice a year) to have influenza vaccine, we need to fill the questionnaire. If there are allergens in it, I can choose to have it later, or going to hospital to have it, or forego the vaccine altogether. In Japan, there are several options of simple influenza vaccines. But with many allergic or restricted people, we can always choose which one is the best.
To be honest we need to research allergic reactions from vaccines more because I think I remember those being the bad reactions that caused the most problems but also maybe see if a vaccine can interact with certain commonly used meds
@@cdeer17 Vaccines aren’t drugs you see (in the sense that drugs activate receptors in the body or cause liver or kidney problems in large amounts so they need to be checked for drug interactions) but simply either antibodies, pieces of a bacteria/virus, or a whole weakened bacteria/virus. So theoretically, you don’t expect those components to react to drugs (tho vaccines DO interact with each other: 2 live vaccines must be administered simultaneously or the next one will have to be administered 4 weeks after since once the immune response has started, the development of immunity to the 2nd vaccine can be impaired). Allergic responses tho are very typical and can happen with all medications but since vaccines literally inject materials to stimulate an immune response and allergies are an overactive immune response, it’s what is most often screened for.
@@raphaelledesma9393 but. That's not actually true the screening part and I for a fact many doctors aren't just trying their hardest to get this stuff administered to try and stim the chances of major amounts of people getting the virus with high problem rates among other things the reality is they are not looking close enough to see if anything being used in this set of vaccines is able to cause allergy responses I can tell because it should be really the only reason why so many issues are happening with the vaccine is because people are having severe allergic responses and it's being pretty bad or even lethal for some which is in it's self making people think that is what the vaccine is meant to do and turning people in to paranoid conspiracy theorists
@@cdeer17 IDK how it is wherever you are (and even in my country it’s not always followed) but when someone receives a vaccine for the first time (as a child or baby for instance) they need to be monitored in the waiting area for 30 minutes. Then even if they go home, they should be educated on the signs of severe and mild allergic reaction (severe proceeds to ER right away, mild can be scheduled with a doctor for some antihistamines) and should be noted for succeeding vax attempts. But in reality, vaccines are required to undergo clinical trials (approved by FDA) showing that they don’t cause enough allergic reactions in the population to be dangerous. So before it’s released to the general public, they are already tested in a sample consisting of a wide variety of people. The truth is that vaccines are not 100% safe (like cars or planes aren’t 100% safe) and no medication is. But the benefit of avoiding the infections protected by vaccines are worth the much smaller risks of their rare side effects. This is how polio complications are now rare, why smallpox is eradicated, and why epiglottitis due to H influenzae b is also rare.
But you are protected because other people without allergens can take it and protect you through heard immunity. However people deciding not to take it because what some celebrity said ruins heard immunity and puts people like you who can't get the vaccine at risk
Those parents, who unvaxx their child, should come to the 3rd country like mine, where polio, smallpox and many other diseases are still present. I want to know their reactions when they kids have polio.
@@lucyndanu5352 Yeah there’s no reason to vaccinate against chickenpox. Every got it growing up in the UK. It’s practically a right of passage. When someone in the class gets chickenpox you try and have your kid get it because it’s easily treatable as a kid but a nightmare as an adult.
I’ve met at least 3 parents that don’t believe in vaccines. When certain people in my work place at the time found out I had been vaccinated, I got yelled at and degraded. This mother stopped me and looked at me and told me I was probably chipped and being followed by the government. Parents that don’t vaccinate their children are on the road to a very sad life
Thats a stupid comment. If vaccines are supposed to protect people against illnesses then why should unvaccinated people not be free do do as they wish? Oh wait, they just changed the vaccine definition last year so now they dont provide immunity
My main issue is yes if you can't get vaccinated don't. Though when people say it's our choice not to as Americans. You know what that does, let's say you don't get vaccinated and get one of those illness okay then it could mutate into a new virus which could cause a pandemic which could be worse than the coronavirus
@Kimi Timoskainen I don't trust nothing what these people tell me, if you want to be experiment go right ahead and can't sue if you have side effects down the road, I hope you picked a good plot.
I would not want my kids to go to school with students who are not vaccinated. If those people love their "freedom" that much, why don't they open their own school or switch to homeschooling.
In some countries a child without all vaccinations cannot attend school regardless of their family 's beliefs ( religion, science etc) for reasons shown in this video
As a baby and as a child I was vaccinated against everything that was required because my mother gave a damn. When I became an adult and got pregnant with my first child my OB asked me had I ever been vaccinated!?! I told her yes but she insisted on seeing proof. I went and got her proof and what I got told shocked me! None of my vaccinations took. I was completely vulnerable and pregnant. The day I left the hospital after having my baby they revaccinated me. I believe we should all do our part to protect ourselves and others. Yes my children were vaccinated as children and are now healthy adults.
@@superdupercooper I think doctors can test your antibodies to see which vaccines you have had and which ones you haven't. This same test can also tell if vaccines were ineffective. The OP must not have had any antibodies for the vaccinated diseases. I think this happens when the body does not react strongly enough to a vaccine.
@@superdupercooper in my country, can’t speak for the US, the MMR was given out too young for people my age (mid 30’s) and it was before the booster. So when they did my blood test the first time I had a baby I was not immune. Thankfully due to generations getting the vaccine I have been protected by them I was also not immune for chickenpox, even though I had had it as a child. The vaccine came out like a year after my whole class caught it. If you have too mild of a case for some viruses you also don’t get that immunity. Despite what anti-vaxxers claim, “natural immunity” is a joke. You have no idea if you’re actually immune unless exposed again. I have a friend that caught the chickenpox twice. And it’s likely we’re going to get shingles, since shingles is just the chickenpox after it buried itself in your nervous system for like 50 years. Ugh, I am not looking forward to needing shingles vaccines when I’m old
@@Nevertoleave with chicken pox, if you have it bad enough the first time, then you rarely get it a 2nd time. But everyone who has had chicken pox carries shingles and it stays dormant. Certain things can lead to a shingles outbreak, like too much stress right after surgery, etc. Im 32 and have had chicken pox once, and shingles 3 times. 2 of those times close together right after hup surgery. Being my age, I can't get the shingles vaccine yet until I'm older so I deal. I have 2 autoimmune diseases so I'm more likely to have an outbreak
She was gonna talk to them later. After Will and her left, he asked her "You're just gonna let them off the hook?" to which she replied: "They're scared to death right now. It is not the time to push. I will talk to them again later, okay?"
My school in the Midwest gave my parents a packet with my vaccinations paperwork in it a week into school I got stopped and told I had to get the paperwork or I’d be kicked out till they had it my parents called my old school asked then then they called the school I was going to and the next week on Monday I got stopped again and by a miracle they found it in the packet. That was in 2013.
dr. manning really frustrates me. whenever she has personal issues affecting her she sorta just lets it out on her patients (like when she went off on the single working mom whose kid got scurvy). but when other doctors have points that are really important and valid that challenge patients' worldviews (like here, or when student dr. curry wanted to save the life of the mother who had an ectopic pregnancy but refused to get treatment) she's all disapproving and apologetic
That’s why most children are properly vaccinated in Singapore as our government makes it mandatory and compulsory to have certain vaccines for children when they come to a particular age and also at birth.
Doctor: *goes through 8-10+ years of medical school, training, and residency to learn about human biology, medicines, chemistry, etc and take the test to become Board certified in the state to practice medicine.* Parent who used Google once: "You don't know what you're talking about."
This happened when my older brother was a baby in the NICU at CHLA. An unvaccinated little girl with whooping cough and her family came to the hospital to visit a relative on the same floor as the NICU and 5 to 8 babies died from whooping cough. Luckily, my brother was somewhere else at the time this happened (I don't remember that part, sorry). It was incredibly devastating for my parents to hear that so many little babies were taken away from their families. And all because someone thought it was okay to bring an unvaccinated sick child (who was coughing openly and wasn't wearing a mask) into an area of the hospital where babies were already fighting to live. Just horrible 😞.
There are absolutely risks associated with getting vaccinations ... however, the benefits outweigh the risks by a lot. As someone that works for an anti-vaxxer, I hear the rhetoric regularly, and even agree with some of the information I've been given but it wouldn't stop me from vaccinating my kids. Both my children had adverse reactions to the MMR but I still gave them their second doses and kept their vaccinations up to date. We were able to deal with the issues using holistic therapies, and my kids are protected.
So let me understand this... Your kids had reactions to their shots right? Yet you still decided to give them their second dose? If they had a reaction, shouldn't that tell you that there is something wrong with that vaccination?
@@ilovemywiggy8436 There absolutely was something wrong with the vaccine, however, I looked at the reaction they had and compared it with the potential dangers of not getting the MMR. As a parent, I wanted my kids protected ... as all parents want for their kids. My version of protection may be different than someone elses, but that's my decision. Fortunately, I had access and funds to reverse the side effects of the shot with a wonderful homeopath.
@@ilovemywiggy8436 Of course not, there is the risk of adverse reactions with any treatment or medication, that does not mean there is anything wrong with it. Risk free medicine does not exist. What we do know is that your chances of complications are much, much lower with vaccines than the real illnesses. If they weren't, child death would not be considered rare in developed countries.
@@8bennaboo If my child had, say, a seizure from a medication, I would NEVER give them that medication again. So why should I with a vaccine? You pro-vaxxers keep screaming about "herd immunity"...aren't kids who have bad reactions and would be better off not getting at least that vaccine again one group that herd immunity is supposed to protect??
Things like this are why I’ll never forgive Andrew Wakefield. This lunatic did a flawed experiment and typed up some random paper in the press all so he could sell his own version of it. The journal took his paper down but the damage was done.
"He has no right to speak to us like that," And YOU have no right to put everyone who's around your children at risk of serious illness or death, and yet here we are.
I'm of the opinion that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be held financially and legally responsible for anyone who becomes ill or dead that come in contact with the child.
Absolutely. It they need to find a charge similar to assault. For those who willingly endanger other people’s lives.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know people whose unvaccinated kids caught whooping cough from a vaccinated kid. That vaccinated kid spread whooping cough all around his school. The state health department even admitted that that was not an unusual occurrence. I guess his parents should have been given all the medical bills and arrested, huh?
@@AS-yz2iz Yes, they should have. It’s like leaving a gun in a locked safe with the safety on vs on the table safety-off. A child might be able to get into that safe and a accident,y shoot themselves…but do you really consider it the same negligence as the person that left it on the table?
@@Orinatl There are thousands of children who don't get vaccinated and don't die of these childhood illnesses. You're being ridiculous. The mortality rate for measles dropped to almost 0 BEFORE the vaccine was introduce. Most of the eradication of those diseases is due to better sanitation improved diets, and advancements in medical treatment. Almost nobody does if they contract these diseases nowadays.
@@AS-yz2iz You do know that even a vaccinated person can spread the disease without knowing it, right? The vaccine helps (in most cases) fight off the disease better. And lowers the chance you can transmit the virus, but it does not remove you as a carrier 100%.
Now, if the kid's parents, from your story, sent him to school knowing he was contagious, then they should receive some sort of punishment. But good luck proving the intent. Or negligence.
Prior to Covid, in my country, there were cases every year when parents sent their kids with high temperatures and coughing to school. Even clear signs of childhood diseases. Not to mention lice.
"You're right, he shouldn't have spoken to you that way. But it's true" is what she should have said
I'm sure she was thinking it but didn't want to say anything
Surprising given the fact that nat goes off at a another patient fir being antivax
She should have said "First Amendment is a bitch get over it"
I wouldn’t have apologized
You're right he shouldn't have spoken to you that way. Now if you will excuse me I need to get tested for the same virus that your kid and their teacher have
it makes me laugh when parents don't believe in vaccinations but go to a hospital and seek their help and their medicine.
complete hypocrisy, never trust a hypocrite
If you want your child’s immune system to beat it, then don’t take up a hospital bed. It’s not fair for the children either. Terrible situation
Absolutely, but it's more the system than the parents.
In Australia, it's free and universal.
But in America, one shot that costs less than a dollar can be up to $60; more if it's a compound-shot.
This anti-vax movement is really just parents who would rather spend $10 on essential oils than hundreds of dollars in vaccination.
It's shit but true.
@@lorihopkins6328 indeed some hospitals even have viruses Immune to drugs in their environment but because nearly everybody has bean vaccinated their mostly safe you brought a cave man or somebody like an unvaccinated kid in and the spend a few weeks their they would get it and be violently ill it depends on the virus tho.
Vaccinations aren't a belief system. You either acknowledge or not acknowledge it.
Will is right … “you don’t want your child to be vaccinated so your child could be safe but it’s ok for you to put everyone else around your child at risk”. For the first time, Will hit the point.
Yep exactly
Why would "everyone around" be at risk if they are all vaccinated??
Makes no sense.... only unvaccinated are at risk, their choice.
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Yeah it's so funny to see Will admit everyone's vaccines don't work
Yes because the ones we love will always be more important to us than strangers.
I can understand that 100%
I love the fact that the parents can act like smartasses without consequence but as soon as will did it right back it’s “unprofessional” and the parents play the victim, ppl like that piss me off!
I get the "how dare he be rude to a customer" vibe
Welcome to the life of healthcare workers.
@@cmq23 Actually welcome to the life of any customer service professional (I am also including health care workers in the statement) 😅
Practically every human being is like that,duh! Human race is at its core hypocrit, amongst other things.
So, if someone bullies someone to the point that the bullied kid bring a gun at school followed by everyone saying he is a monster for doing that, do you think they are being smartasses?
I find it funny when parents think they know better about medicine than the doctors who actually study it
They don’t have the experience that doctors have because they don’t understand how the body works
Exactly
I find it funny how u dont understand the power of study. Ive been ti doctors who didnt even find out what my health issues was until I did myself. Yall think doctors arent wrong well they are at many times. Vaccines dont do shit but harm u. So lets stop the u need to vaccinate type of shit cause to each their own. And he was very unprofessional talking that way to the parents in the end.
@@norajeffry7368 yeah but these parents had no respect so what gives them the right to speak about medicine when they don’t know how vaccines work either vaccine or don’t vaccine don’t put a child’s life at risk
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww i dont think the doctors are the parents either. And as well is having a vaccine gonna help here here or medecine. Like why jump to vaccines? If a vaccine is sepose to save this childs life then maby yes I can agree but if there other options then lets jump to that. And I didnt say risk a life I dont agree with risking a life
"left alone, the body has a perfectly good immune system" says the man currently watching his child die of a preventable illness because the body's immune system left alone isn't enough to fight off the infection
Vax actuactly improve the natural immune system too. Not harm. But improve it
@@nicholerubes2959 More specifically they don't improve the immune system but they allow the immune system to skip the early phases of the illness, where it's trying to figure out what the illness is, and just go straight to fighting it. It's like giving the immune system an educational flier. That early phase is also where the illness is easiest to overcome and hasn't done as much damage yet, so your immune system has the best chance of fighting it off then, but the immune system itself isn't any "better", just forewarned.
@@LyingTube Actuactly having the information of what to attack at the early stages does improve the immune system. The more the immune system knows the better chances it has to naturally fight back
The thing is, he's right. If you don't do anything to the immune system, it's an incredible machine for controlling malignant microbes, fungi, and particles (viruses are a very odd existence). Vaccination is not messing with the immune system, it's updating its' enemies list.
"Left alone, the body has a perfectly good immune system". Before vaccinations the average life spam of a human being was 28 years according to Greek records. That's the perfectly good immune system at work.
The most unlikely part of this is finding sharp, clean classroom scissors 😬
Or sharp scissors ✂️ at a elementary school...
It didn't have to be sharp. With the strength she stabbed her throat, anything would've seemed sharp lol.
As a kindergarten teacher, the scissors are dull and probably have bits of playdoh gunking them up. We do have a box cutter, but knowing what that’s been used for, that’s the last resort of last resorts. 🤦🏻♂️
@@AndrewBarsky I spit laughed. Keep telling truth!
my friend cut the tip of her finger off in kindergarten with safety scissors theyre sharp enough to cut so they're sharp enough to stab 😂
"He has no right to speak to us that way" But those parents have the right to risks everyone's health for their untrue theories. Just no!
Besides, freedom of speech? All people have every RIGHT to say whatever they want to anyone.
@@LunaGrape thats a dangerous path, what if I made detailed threats about how I wanted to kill someone? should threatening to kill someone be free speech? Should racially vilifying someone be free speech? No? then stop going on about unlimited speech
@@avgfree21 criminal threats are actually not protected under free speech in the US, but there is freedom of expression and opinion. We can believe whatever we want, but we cannot threaten violence
@@odeleya1768 I'm aware of that, i'm referencing Luna's "whatever they want to anyone" comment by pointing out its stupidity
He literally spoke to them the same way they were speaking to him
This video really highlights how people really try to coddle anti vaxxers from receiving harsh criticism.
They need to be heavily criticized and called out for their crazy
@@amila_ you are wrong.sub humans need to be hazed.
Now I want house to see unvaccinated children
@@Yoru-cake There is an episode where he deals with an antivax mother
@@kaleido457 _"Firetruck red..."_
I heard a story of a woman who refused to vaccinate her child against tetanus. The child caught tetanus and died. This is serious. The average lifespan used to be 40 not because people lived half as long, but because half them died from preventable childhood illness before widespread vaccination.
Here’s a better one a family chose not to vaccinate their child from tetanus. He got a serious cut from a farm implement. They still would not vaccinate him. He got lockjaw. Was hospitalized for a months at a cost of a 1/2 million dollars. After he got out of the hospital they still refused to give him the second shot of the vaccine.
And also Tetanus is awfully painful.
@@neilkurzman4907 I wouldn't be surprised if they had a life insurance policy out on him. That sounds like his parents were hoping he'd die
I worked at a Halloween scare trail as a car crash victim. One time I was pounding on the wooden fence to scare some people and ended up hitting a rusty nail. It went right into the side of my hand. The doctors said I was extremely lucky to have had the vaccine.
Most of the infections not being tetanus
Parent : " we won't Vaccinate our child because we don't know what's in those Vaccines or what the long term effects are"
Child ends up in the hospital with something they could have been Vaccinated against
Parent "Please help our child"
Doctor :" Well, there is a Medication that we would normally give, however we cannot give it to your child "
Parent:" Why?!?"
Doctor:"Oh because we don't Know exactly whats in it or what long term effects could be caused by giving it, sorry"
Haha Irony!
Exactly. I don't get how people think they know better about health to refuse vaccination (bonus on not being immunocompromised), yet expect doctors with better knowledge on health and medication to help them.
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@@kikikaichan true but vaccines don't prevent illnesses just lessens the chance of them becoming sick. However if your child does get sick you shouldn't have them around other kids.
an alternative would be.
ow we have the fancy Medication that can cure them however you child is not Immune to the virus that cure said illness soo sorry.
if they got the Immunity said cure would work and have ether short term illness or nothing wrong and they would get better. but the fault solely lies with them.
Great job for the negligent parents' actors. They really nailed the creepy lunatic stare.
I've met plenty of anti vax parents who gave me the exact same look, didn't work though I still told them they are bad parents and reported them to social services for child neglect
Art3mis haha I like you.
Arrogant lunatic stare
I don't understand parents who don't want to protect their kids and all other kids they come in contact with it's absolutely disgusting. I am not a parent, but I do have a degree in early childhood education and this makes me so angry.
So. I dont understand people like you. It's not your kids so get real and grow up. #ANTIVAX
@@kimberleyike2168 but it puts other kids and other people at risk. There are people who can’t get vaccinated because they are immunocompromised or allergic to something in the vaccine. People need to get vaccinated to get herd immunity and protect the people who can’t. The more people who vaccinate the better.
@@rachelcookie321 there is risks to vaccinating and risks to not vaccinating. The parent needs to make that decision on what’s best for their child. To some the risks outweigh the benefits and vise versa.
@@rachelcookie321 or just get sick and get over it to get herd immunity. Vaccines have side effects. Ive never got a flu shot and have never gotten sick from the flu even after taking care of people who testes positive for the flu. The last time i got sick was from a vaccine
@@slyfox4564 the risks of getting ill greatly outweigh the risks from the vaccine. You can get immunity by getting the illness but that means you have to go through being sick first and risking passing it to other people. Many vaccines work by having a bit of the illness inside it but removing the contagious part, that way your body learns how to fight it off better. It just boosts your immune system.
I find it both funny and annoying how parents like that think, "We don't want to vaccinate our kids, they have a perfect immune system without it" and all I can think of is uh yeah so perfect that they got sick from an easily prevented illness and the fact that those type of parents are vaccinated themselves
true tho their is merit as they may end up with a stronger Immunity then other kid tho it a trial by fire and stupid action on their part most children vaccines are viruses or similar in order to create herd immunity for those that don't have immunity.
Especially since we are all imperfect, bodies and personalities
Yet you don't stop to think that in the Amazon rain Forrest there are untouched unvaccinated tribes who've never vaccinated their children and they are perfectly fine. 🥰
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 Hi Nikki Day, I'm also Nikki Day. That's cool.
@@jazzluva3437 it's actually Middle Kills Day, it's Blackfoot. But my father does shorten his to just Day most of the time because he doesn't feel like saying the whole thing lol
I had a 17 year old patient once who came in to pick up his vaccine record for college. It was quite a scene when he started freaking out on his mother when he realized that he had not been vaccinated for everything. “Mom ARE YOU NUTS?! Why didn’t you tell me about this?!” Yikes. 🤭
@@Jules45678 if his mother loved him she would have vaccinated him
Actually I'm glad that 17 year old scolded his mom for keeping something this important information from him because he understands the consequences of his Mom's actions and thinking its ok to not give him the medical treatment that he was supposed to get to protect his health
Thank goodness the next generation of that family won't be a bunch of anti-vaxxers. Good on the kid. That mother was incredibly reckless. It's one thing to not vaccinate but why keep it from the person who isn't getting the vaccinations. He might have done something assuming he was vaccinated and gotten seriously ill. What is wrong with these people? The problem is you can't prove it when it works. If it works nothing will happen. The problem is that with most other people getting vaccinated it also means anti-vaxxers will think they're right not to do it since they can't get sick if everyone around them has their shots up to date. But you just know if they actually get sick it'll be because of anything but their negligence. I can't stand it!
So proud of Will. Those pricks needed to talked to like that
Those parents definitely deserve to go out slowly and painfully.
What an idiotic statement. Scenarios like this don't happen in real life.
@@AS-yz2iz having a healthcare provider tell someone like this the stupidity and risk of anti-vax? Yes they do! Now more than ever! And parents like this end up with either a dead child or having their children taken away by social services…it’s more or less the same as not letting us treat your child because of some backwards views,”oh well my child has cancer but you can’t treat it,that’s poison,it’ll go away with wheatgrass and ginger”(and no I’m not making this scenario up,wish I was)
@@AS-yz2iz yes, they do.
@@buffya8012 First of all, I was talking about the specific scenario of the show, im not the talk by the Drs. Secondly, I know a lot of parents who don't vaccinate. Their children haven't died, gotten any sicker with childhood diseases than vaccinated children, and they certainly haven't had their children taken away by social services! Lol. What world are you living in? Fantasy Land? It is nothing like child abuse as there is a statistically low chance of getting there diseases any more, let alone dying from them.
He was right and at this point it should be illegal. They should be charged with murder or attempted murder.
Not murder as that implies intent to kill, but definitely reckless endangerment and child neglect.
@@hblake5213 they know an unvaccinated child can kill others and themself. If they refuse to acknowledge it tbst doesn’t mean it’s not murder. Still is.
@@amuletteastynomia2571 yes it does, murder is a specific crime in which you intend to kill the other person. knowing something can lead to someone's death and letting happen anyway doesn't actually fall in that category.
Negligent homicide
@@romantic_hippie intended murder.
If someone is hurt when a routine vaccine could have prevented it, the parents should be held responsible. If you don’t give your children the vaccine, you’ll risk criminal charges if your gamble doesn’t pay off.
People like you deserve to be locked up
@@slyfox4564 Vaccines don’t kill people
Agreed
I will understand if the child is allergic to the vaccine but still people need to get it it protect you
I’d rather risk being allergic to the vaccine or getting infected from the vaccine then actually getting sick from the illness without the vaccine
Doctors have to deal with this quite often in real life, I have so much respect for them. The restraint that it takes to continue being polite and professional is extremely impressive.
It's very rare and hard to find luckily the anti vax and flat earthers are almost gone unfortunately it's been replaced by these crazy blue haired terrorists destroying property and attempting to take control of areas.
As the legends say
"Don't argue with stupid people they will make to fall to their level then beat you with experience"
I always liked “Don’t weep for the stupid, you’ll be crying all day”
anti vaxxers are also narcissists cause they think they're right and that they alone know more than someone who has done year and I mean years of research on bacteria and viruses and how to fight them
@@Longtail626 goes for virtue signing assholes too
I like "Don't argue with stupid people, they have far more experience with it than you."
Someone needs to be telling them off.
I think unvaccinated children shouldn’t be allowed in school and should have to be home schooled.
You'd be glad to know that is the case in some countries,
Some counties in the US require them to be in public school but parents like these ones have their holistic healthier doctors forge vaccine cards so their kids can go to school and then those kids infect other kids and staff. Malaria has reared its ugly head in the states again after being wiped out decades ago because of parents like them.
In my country to be allowed in school you vaccine card is needed to get in.
Why? If everyone else is "protected" then why shouldnt they be able to go to school?
@E Sanford16 like the doctor said you just want everyone else to get the vaccination but y'all don't then when you come across someone's helpless child who hasn't reach the age yet to get the vaccination you infect them.
Assuming the premise that "a parent has the right to choose not to vaccinate their children" is true, then public school funding need not teach their children. We all pay into that, we all want our kids as safe as medically possible. Also, gotta love how these parents are anti-vaxx but came to a hospital for treatment, where are their essential oils now?
Essential oils are fine but anti-vaxxers should live in total isolation & not be hypocrites & selfish about their ideology.
The fact that they say "You don't knwo it's SHILOH'S (the CHILD'S) fault". You're right dad, it's not hers- it's yours and your wife's.
"you docs think you know it all"
THATS THE POINT
“You docs you think you know it all.” Maybe because they went to 8+ years of school for this 💀
"We've done our research"
That's great, we have doctors who go through years and years of higher education and experience to prove to you that you are wrong.
Absolutely, and that poses an issue for people who cannot get vaccinated.
Like the chronically ill and poverty line.
In Australia, it's free and universal.
But in America, one shot that costs less than a dollar can be up to $60; more if it's a compound-shot.
This anti-vax movement is really just parents who would rather spend $10 on essential oils than hundreds of dollars in vaccination.
It's shit but true.
They probably googled for all that "research"
@@_safur_3259 doctors google all the time when I am in my appointment.
@@katherinegeorge2400 omg Rlly? What kind of doctors are you going to I get doing research but google?!?!
@@katherinegeorge2400 no, they look up studies
to confirm their information. All doctors double check to make sure of their diagnosis as there can be many different issues presenting the same. So your doctor wants to make sure there isn’t new information available.
You on the other hand googled until you found something that matched what you wanted, regardless of the fact that it was completely out of context or an out right lie and proclaimed that you were smrter than doctors.
It's always interesting in the cases where parents who don't want their children to be vaccinated were actually vaccinated as a children, so they're moreover safe from the very diseases they don't want their kids to be exposed to. Idk if this is the case for this fictional couple, but like......how many anti vaxxers are out here vaccinated or at least had been vaccinated (and therefore, safe) in their youth while they potentially endanger their children (and other people)?
It’s hilarious when you see anti-vaxxers proudly proclaim they’ve never been vaccinated only for their parents to go, yes you were.
90 % of adults are not up to date on their adult vaccinations...are you?
If not, why not.
You must realize a vaccine is not forever..right?
I never understood such idiot moronic parents that act all high and mighty to think they are strong to resist anything.
Theoretically.
@ 3:14
“You don’t know that this was Shilo’s fault!”
He should’ve responded with,
“No it’s not her fault, it’s yours.”
Yeah. He should've. And also throw in "Where's your source" at them too.
He has no right to talk to us like that!
Correct answer: His 8-10 years of medical school say otherwise!
Look into the History of medicine and you won't be saying that.
Doctors have been wrong a multitude of times..they do NOT know all.
They DO harm..many people.
Their Hippocratic oath means nothing to most of them.
My answer: Do you have better alternatives? Like it or not, you came to this hospital, you heard the answer, and refused. It's either your daughter healthy and alive. Or a risk of a counts of many deaths by one if your own.
Medical school is only 4 years. Residency is another 3-4 years. And then a fellowship can add on 1-2 years.
Vaccinations need to be MANDATORY for children
Maybe we should start with making it mandatory for adults first!
They can catch and spread diseases as easily as children.
What makes over 18 any safer?
Oh right, we can't force an adult like we can a child!
@@moosehead1183 You've got a point, let's make them mandatory for everyone
When I moved from the Midwest to Florida my old high school gave my parents a packet with everything ( including my vaccinations paperwork) and they even looked through it to be sure everything was there. A week into the school year after moving I was stopped on a Thursday and told they didn’t have my vaccinations paperwork and if They didn’t get it then I’d be kicked out till they did the school even called my parents saying the same thing. That Friday my parents called my old high school in Indiana and asked them if they put my vaccinations paperwork in the packet and they did I believe the same day my old high school called the high school I was going to and the next week on Monday I was stopped again and told by a complete miracle they found my vaccinations paperwork in the packet my parents gave them from my high school in Indiana. Vaccinate your kids parents! Don’t want to ruin their education or homeschool them.
@@NoName-hg6cc let s also put people that don t want them in camps
@@justanaverage1762 No, let's just put in a city where they live by themselves. See in a year how many survived the epidemics
2 things too say:
1.I think it should be illegal to deny vaccination if it’s Easy to spread.
2.if the parents/guardians speak to doctors in a mean way the doctor can respond with aggressive language if necessary and the parents with the patient safely transported to a different hospital or be provided with a different doctor
I'd love to see how confident the parents are in antivaxing if presented with, "Okay, let's take your kid off the machines keeping them alive and see how their natural immune system does".
That female doctor has no right to defend the parents as she yelled almost the exact same thing to the parents of an unvaccinated boy in an earlier or a later episode
Legally she’s supposed to. Its a the law to be able to deny anything you don’t want don’t medically. Doctors only are taught modern medicine I think if one decides to make the choice not to vaccinate they should know another approach of how to heal tho. Research is key.
@@Melaninkumi the kid got antibiotics. That's the treatment. Vaccines aren't treatments, they are prophylaxis. And parents who don't vaccinate their children should have their parental rights revoked
That episode with her yelling about the unvaccinated boy was in season 3, this is season 1
She didn't defend them, she's just trying to maintain professionalism
That’s apart of their job, buddy. They don’t want angry people in the building.
Well if the natural immune system is so wonderful, how come your kid is sick? Why does anyone get sick? Have them arrested for child neglect and have the kids put in care.
Doctors should be allowed to tell patients what they need to hear and be forced to do it.
My rule, if your kid is unvaccinated and it’s not due to a medical reason your rights as a parent are terminated because you’ve shown your incapable of properly caring for a child
Agreed that there should be mandatory vaccines for specific diseases, but if you think Polio and Covid are on the same level, you are sadly delusional.
So glad the top comment was this. I don't feel so alone anymore.
I wasn’t vaccinated due to religious reasons until I was 14. I was also homeschooled. I never got sick or got anyone sick. Just my experience
@@hannahtorres5028 How do you know you never got anyone sick?
@@CycocelVocalist brainwashed robot 🤖
Irresponsible as f*** and completely unwilling to recognize their errors. They have NO excuse!!
She shouldn't of defended the parents. Will had every legal & medical right to say it. She should of supported Will
I struggle to understand people who are anti vaccination but will go too the hospital and seek medical help. Surely if you don't trust what's in medicines or drugs for your children as babies why would you go too a doctor and allow them to put drugs into your child now.
🙌🏾 I had the same thought!!! Go online and do your own “research” and cure yourself that way since you know best.
The answer is because they actually care about their children. And in their warped mind not vaccinating them is the best thing for them. But of course when they’re sick and dying, they think hospital. Many won’t accept the fact that they’re wrong. Remember anti-VAX or‘s and the distrust of the medical system and the government into their conspiracy theory.
4:05 "He has no right to speak to us like that."
(What I wish Natalie had said) "And you have no right to absolve yourselves of blame, but here we are."
And if the girl dies, they got no one to blame but themselves. Not the ones who did what they could and told them.
For me Natalie should have been supporting her colleague instead of apologizing for him, but that's just my opinion.
I wish doctors were more honest like this
They couldn't have been more honest than this.
He's a tyrant!
@@moosehead1183 He's a doctor and he was smart to give his profesional opinion.
A round of applause to the actors playing the anti-vaxxer parents you know they are good in what they do when you end up despising them so much. 👏👏👏👏
Also another reason why I couldn't I be a doctor dealing with people like this I legit would probably lose my job too quickly because I have to deal with people who are like this
Remove custody.
Wow, they are so entitled!
Personally, I am allergic to several things. And when the time comes (twice a year) to have influenza vaccine, we need to fill the questionnaire. If there are allergens in it, I can choose to have it later, or going to hospital to have it, or forego the vaccine altogether.
In Japan, there are several options of simple influenza vaccines. But with many allergic or restricted people, we can always choose which one is the best.
To be honest we need to research allergic reactions from vaccines more because I think I remember those being the bad reactions that caused the most problems but also maybe see if a vaccine can interact with certain commonly used meds
@@cdeer17 Vaccines aren’t drugs you see (in the sense that drugs activate receptors in the body or cause liver or kidney problems in large amounts so they need to be checked for drug interactions) but simply either antibodies, pieces of a bacteria/virus, or a whole weakened bacteria/virus. So theoretically, you don’t expect those components to react to drugs (tho vaccines DO interact with each other: 2 live vaccines must be administered simultaneously or the next one will have to be administered 4 weeks after since once the immune response has started, the development of immunity to the 2nd vaccine can be impaired). Allergic responses tho are very typical and can happen with all medications but since vaccines literally inject materials to stimulate an immune response and allergies are an overactive immune response, it’s what is most often screened for.
@@raphaelledesma9393 but. That's not actually true the screening part and I for a fact many doctors aren't just trying their hardest to get this stuff administered to try and stim the chances of major amounts of people getting the virus with high problem rates among other things the reality is they are not looking close enough to see if anything being used in this set of vaccines is able to cause allergy responses I can tell because it should be really the only reason why so many issues are happening with the vaccine is because people are having severe allergic responses and it's being pretty bad or even lethal for some which is in it's self making people think that is what the vaccine is meant to do and turning people in to paranoid conspiracy theorists
@@cdeer17 IDK how it is wherever you are (and even in my country it’s not always followed) but when someone receives a vaccine for the first time (as a child or baby for instance) they need to be monitored in the waiting area for 30 minutes. Then even if they go home, they should be educated on the signs of severe and mild allergic reaction (severe proceeds to ER right away, mild can be scheduled with a doctor for some antihistamines) and should be noted for succeeding vax attempts. But in reality, vaccines are required to undergo clinical trials (approved by FDA) showing that they don’t cause enough allergic reactions in the population to be dangerous. So before it’s released to the general public, they are already tested in a sample consisting of a wide variety of people. The truth is that vaccines are not 100% safe (like cars or planes aren’t 100% safe) and no medication is. But the benefit of avoiding the infections protected by vaccines are worth the much smaller risks of their rare side effects. This is how polio complications are now rare, why smallpox is eradicated, and why epiglottitis due to H influenzae b is also rare.
But you are protected because other people without allergens can take it and protect you through heard immunity. However people deciding not to take it because what some celebrity said ruins heard immunity and puts people like you who can't get the vaccine at risk
What I find the most hypocritical about anti-vax parents is they are often fully vaccinated themselves.
Same thing happened those refuse covid vaccines were first one to sign up
that likely not on their part, their parent where smarter then them.
@@CommanderM117 you'd think it'd make them more reasonable, "like hey, I'm fully vaxxed and nothing terrible happened to me 30 years ago."
That’s because the parents of the parents had different options and the parents were too young to choose for themselves, r u dum??
I don't think those two may last for months if they'd continue that way of thinking.
Medical drama are wild man... the Dr went straight to mouth to mouth, no chest compressions or nothing
Chest compressions are for the heart.
They wouldn’t help breathing.
"He has no right to speak to us like that"
Well clearly someone should have
These parents make me mad😡
Those parents, who unvaxx their child, should come to the 3rd country like mine, where polio, smallpox and many other diseases are still present. I want to know their reactions when they kids have polio.
Smallpox is internationally eradicated
Smallpox has been eradicated though. We still vaccinate but that one is gone thanks to vaccinations
@@101spacemonkey I think he/she meant chickenpox, it's still doing its rounds in many of the third world countries
@@lucyndanu5352 chickenpox is in the UK. We dont vaccinate against it.
@@lucyndanu5352
Yeah there’s no reason to vaccinate against chickenpox. Every got it growing up in the UK. It’s practically a right of passage. When someone in the class gets chickenpox you try and have your kid get it because it’s easily treatable as a kid but a nightmare as an adult.
Brother at the end was PREACHING
Call CPS!
"You trot out this pseudoscience but what you really want is for every other kid to be vaccinated so your kid can be safe." This.
Child protective care should be called
Some people you just can’t reason with
I’ve met at least 3 parents that don’t believe in vaccines. When certain people in my work place at the time found out I had been vaccinated, I got yelled at and degraded.
This mother stopped me and looked at me and told me I was probably chipped and being followed by the government.
Parents that don’t vaccinate their children are on the road to a very sad life
They should be in an institution
It's a crime to neglect your child's health now on the basis of region thank Goodness.
😢 this is just sad, risk, and death are both two very different things. But these days are not a good thing to lift under feelings
I agree with Will!
Vaccinations are required to live in a society, one should be free to not get those as long as he/she's prepared to live outside of the community.
Thats a stupid comment. If vaccines are supposed to protect people against illnesses then why should unvaccinated people not be free do do as they wish? Oh wait, they just changed the vaccine definition last year so now they dont provide immunity
My main issue is yes if you can't get vaccinated don't. Though when people say it's our choice not to as Americans. You know what that does, let's say you don't get vaccinated and get one of those illness okay then it could mutate into a new virus which could cause a pandemic which could be worse than the coronavirus
Fuck society then
@Kimi Timoskainen yup including people who currently have cancer and have no immune system
@Kimi Timoskainen I don't trust nothing what these people tell me, if you want to be experiment go right ahead and can't sue if you have side effects down the road, I hope you picked a good plot.
I would not want my kids to go to school with students who are not vaccinated. If those people love their "freedom" that much, why don't they open their own school or switch to homeschooling.
"He should not have spoken to us that way"
My response, "Doesn't mean he's wrong though."
This makes me think that un-realistic facts should be removed from the internet search. Deleted and unable to be published.
When do we call cps for child endangerment
In some countries a child without all vaccinations cannot attend school regardless of their family 's beliefs ( religion, science etc) for reasons shown in this video
Why in the hell are you at the hospital then?
"The body has a perfectly good immune system"
Yes but as you can see by the dying child on the bed...somtimes it need help
Kind of hoping those kids get saved by those parents getting ill and dying. There kids would be safer that way.
Clips of Chicago Med keep popping up, should I start watching it?
At times like these.. I wish Dr. House would just magically reappear
Glad I was vaccinated for childhood diseases.
I know it’s just a tv and they acting but it still piss me off knowing that someone like that exist in real life
they should pay that teachers medical bill
Natalie does same she speaks to patients parents like that way dr Halstead did so she cant complain compare that
As a baby and as a child I was vaccinated against everything that was required because my mother gave a damn. When I became an adult and got pregnant with my first child my OB asked me had I ever been vaccinated!?! I told her yes but she insisted on seeing proof. I went and got her proof and what I got told shocked me! None of my vaccinations took. I was completely vulnerable and pregnant. The day I left the hospital after having my baby they revaccinated me. I believe we should all do our part to protect ourselves and others. Yes my children were vaccinated as children and are now healthy adults.
What do you mean the vaccinations never took? How did they know?
@@superdupercooper I think doctors can test your antibodies to see which vaccines you have had and which ones you haven't. This same test can also tell if vaccines were ineffective. The OP must not have had any antibodies for the vaccinated diseases. I think this happens when the body does not react strongly enough to a vaccine.
@@vioveo7440 yes, that could be the case!
@@superdupercooper in my country, can’t speak for
the US, the MMR was given out too young for people my age (mid 30’s) and it was before the booster. So when they did my blood test the first time I had a baby I was not immune. Thankfully due to generations getting the vaccine I have been protected by them
I was also not immune for chickenpox, even though I had had it as a child. The vaccine came out like a year after my whole class caught it. If you have too mild of a case for some viruses you also don’t get that immunity. Despite what anti-vaxxers claim, “natural immunity” is a joke. You have no idea if you’re actually immune unless exposed again. I have a friend that caught the chickenpox twice. And it’s likely we’re going to get shingles, since shingles is just the chickenpox after it buried itself in your nervous system for like 50 years. Ugh, I am not looking forward to needing shingles vaccines when I’m old
@@Nevertoleave with chicken pox, if you have it bad enough the first time, then you rarely get it a 2nd time. But everyone who has had chicken pox carries shingles and it stays dormant. Certain things can lead to a shingles outbreak, like too much stress right after surgery, etc. Im 32 and have had chicken pox once, and shingles 3 times. 2 of those times close together right after hup surgery. Being my age, I can't get the shingles vaccine yet until I'm older so I deal. I have 2 autoimmune diseases so I'm more likely to have an outbreak
This just shows how amazing dr manning is!! She almost caught a dangerous disease just so she could ave a patient😃😃 love dr manning
Wasn't Mannings yelling at an anti Vax dad in a different Chicago med episode? Why is she so fine with this family?!
She was gonna talk to them later. After Will and her left, he asked her "You're just gonna let them off the hook?" to which she replied: "They're scared to death right now. It is not the time to push. I will talk to them again later, okay?"
That's what I asked as well
Man can't stand the parents they acted like they knew everything and could not be their fault. Kudos to the actor and actress who played them.
Parents that refuse vaccination for their kids should lose custody of their children.
I grew up in the 1980s and 1990s and you had to be immunized to be allowed to attend school. No vaccination, no going to school.
I was also vaccinated before I was allowed to go to school back in the late 60's.
There are now vocal anti vaxxers during the pandemic. Shameful.
My school in the Midwest gave my parents a packet with my vaccinations paperwork in it a week into school I got stopped and told I had to get the paperwork or I’d be kicked out till they had it my parents called my old school asked then then they called the school I was going to and the next week on Monday I got stopped again and by a miracle they found it in the packet. That was in 2013.
I also grew up in the 80s and 90s and there were no vaccination exemptions. I think that might have stared in the early 2000s.
@@tmreed truth is we had less vaccinations back then. No varicella or Hep or Meningitis or some others.
@@NH-tb2sm I had three Hep B vaccinations when I was a teenager. I don’t remember Meningitis vaccines, though.
Whoever you are, though I have not seen your face, nor even heard your voice, know that I love you.
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@@alexlaxson3261 we love you Alex. Love you. L.O.V.E YOUOOOOO
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A part of me wishes that after the teacher gets better, she forbids the child from coming back to class until he's vaccinated.
Oh they so deserved to be spoken to that way.
Yes Ma'am the DOCTOR does have every right to spit them uncomfortable facts in your face.
I bet the patents are fully vaccinated. What hypocrits.
Because their parents and grandparents lived in a time where kids died young of preventable diseases that we wiped out. How quickly we forget.
In my opinion it's a free country you do what you want but don't expect me to give a damn what happens to you.
Yet there’s still no real study that exists
dr. manning really frustrates me. whenever she has personal issues affecting her she sorta just lets it out on her patients (like when she went off on the single working mom whose kid got scurvy). but when other doctors have points that are really important and valid that challenge patients' worldviews (like here, or when student dr. curry wanted to save the life of the mother who had an ectopic pregnancy but refused to get treatment) she's all disapproving and apologetic
The actors of the annoying parents are GOOD! Especially when they were trying to "prove" their stand.
That’s why most children are properly vaccinated in Singapore as our government makes it mandatory and compulsory to have certain vaccines for children when they come to a particular age and also at birth.
Doctor: *goes through 8-10+ years of medical school, training, and residency to learn about human biology, medicines, chemistry, etc and take the test to become Board certified in the state to practice medicine.*
Parent who used Google once: "You don't know what you're talking about."
hmm this seems familiar...can't imagine what I'm being reminded of.
This happened when my older brother was a baby in the NICU at CHLA. An unvaccinated little girl with whooping cough and her family came to the hospital to visit a relative on the same floor as the NICU and 5 to 8 babies died from whooping cough. Luckily, my brother was somewhere else at the time this happened (I don't remember that part, sorry). It was incredibly devastating for my parents to hear that so many little babies were taken away from their families. And all because someone thought it was okay to bring an unvaccinated sick child (who was coughing openly and wasn't wearing a mask) into an area of the hospital where babies were already fighting to live. Just horrible 😞.
There are absolutely risks associated with getting vaccinations ... however, the benefits outweigh the risks by a lot. As someone that works for an anti-vaxxer, I hear the rhetoric regularly, and even agree with some of the information I've been given but it wouldn't stop me from vaccinating my kids. Both my children had adverse reactions to the MMR but I still gave them their second doses and kept their vaccinations up to date. We were able to deal with the issues using holistic therapies, and my kids are protected.
So let me understand this...
Your kids had reactions to their shots right? Yet you still decided to give them their second dose?
If they had a reaction, shouldn't that tell you that there is something wrong with that vaccination?
@@ilovemywiggy8436 There absolutely was something wrong with the vaccine, however, I looked at the reaction they had and compared it with the potential dangers of not getting the MMR. As a parent, I wanted my kids protected ... as all parents want for their kids. My version of protection may be different than someone elses, but that's my decision.
Fortunately, I had access and funds to reverse the side effects of the shot with a wonderful homeopath.
@@GoddessWoman1 I can't change your mind but that doesn't stop me from disagreeing
@@ilovemywiggy8436 Of course not, there is the risk of adverse reactions with any treatment or medication, that does not mean there is anything wrong with it. Risk free medicine does not exist. What we do know is that your chances of complications are much, much lower with vaccines than the real illnesses. If they weren't, child death would not be considered rare in developed countries.
@@8bennaboo If my child had, say, a seizure from a medication, I would NEVER give them that medication again. So why should I with a vaccine?
You pro-vaxxers keep screaming about "herd immunity"...aren't kids who have bad reactions and would be better off not getting at least that vaccine again one group that herd immunity is supposed to protect??
Things like this are why I’ll never forgive Andrew Wakefield. This lunatic did a flawed experiment and typed up some random paper in the press all so he could sell his own version of it. The journal took his paper down but the damage was done.
All my homies hate Andrew Wakefield
"He has no right to speak to us like that,"
And YOU have no right to put everyone who's around your children at risk of serious illness or death, and yet here we are.
Those parents are stupid idiots.