Hey I was looking into this bike along with several others. I had several questions and concerns but there was no response. The website doesn’t answer my questions. I guess they want you to check out reviews instead of trying to help answering questions. You have a good review tutorial.
@@eMotoPortland I haven’t done it yet but I saw on the Pedal Facebook group that you need to buy shock risers since most aftermarket shocks are not an exact fit. One guy used these with success: a.co/d/3kJwqGc
Thanks for the review! I'm shocked to hear about the rear shocks- I've been researching this purchase for several months and this is the first I'm hearing about it. Also sad to hear about the customer service and the motor grease issue, but I appreciate the in-depth details! Overall, would you recommend buying this bike, or, would you suggest waiting a year or two to see if they do another refresh to fix some of the problems you mentioned? Also, how do you feel about the add-ons that they sell, like the baskets and racks? They seem incredibly expensive (their metal basket is listed for $250) and they don't seem worth it at all IMO
@@mgsv_morbidslinky The customer service seems to be the case for a lot of big manufacturers. I see people complaining about super 73 and ride1up customer support all the time in their Reddit subs. It’s just frustrating to deal with. It’s more so for those that aren’t the hands on type. Personally, I don’t think waiting a year will change much in that regard. Maybe they’ll upgrade the suspension but you can always get aftermarket with a spacer. They’ve been around long enough to have a few generations of bikes by now so the lack customer support is probably not going anywhere. Overall the bike is a blast so if you’re into the e-moped style of bike and are comfortable doing your own maintenance (motor greasing, tightening spokes, cleaning drive train and chain etc) then I’d say it’s worth it. I will say this though if you plan on getting a second e-bike for a partner, I’d get a different brand. That way you’re not dealing with Pedals customer support on two bikes. I plan on doing that for my gf. I can’t speak for the other eco system parts but I do like the in frame basket. I keep one of those heavy kryptonite chains in it as well as a water bottle when riding. I’ve also stashed a hoodie in it when it’s hot so it’s definitely useful. The in frame is nice because you don’t ruin the aesthetics by loading up the cargo rack in the back or strapping a bag to it.
@@jthecrew It’s pretty straightforward. First remove the battery (put a rag down on the ground to protect the display) and flip the bike upside down on the handlebars. Then take a picture of the orientation of each wheel, specifically the lock washers (it’s the closest piece to the hub) to reference later. Disconnect the cables that go to each motor. Then take a wheel off and unscrew the bolts to the cover plate of the hub motor. For the front wheel, the cover plate is on the opposite side of the brake rotor. The back wheel, the cover plate is on the same side as the rotor so you’ll need a longer Allen wrench. Once you have a wheel off and the bolts to the cover plate removed, bang the axel on the opposite side of the cover plate with a mallet (you can also pick up the wheel and bang the axel on the ground too) until the motor starts sliding out of the housing. Once removed, rub a good amount of automotive grease inside the drum of the empty housing then wipe grease with your finger around the planetary gears (there’s 3) and axle. Then put it back together, screw the bolts back in and put the wheel back on. That’s all there is to it. Start with the front wheel since it’s easier and you’ll know what the motor looks like. The back wheel is trickier because you have to weave the axel and derailleur through the bike chain to get the wheel off. The derailleur is connected to the rear hub motor so it will come off with the wheel and stay connected. If using the ground instead of a mallet, pick up the rear wheel and bang the derailleur side of the axel onto the ground until the cover plate and break rotor comes off revealing the motor. Then grease it like you did the front. Once you put the wheel back on reconnect the wires and you’re all done. I’ll try and film a video of the process in the near future.
Hey brother, could you please show us how to do the speed unlocking. 🙏🏽 My AWD won’t even let me get past 25…when they literally marketed it max speed 36 smh
@@TheMoanaWay Do you have the AWD S? It might be different depending on the model. I can put up a video on how to do it. I’ve been busy with work so I’ll try and get one uploaded by the end of the week.
Hey dude! Greetings from Irvine. I am not a tinkerer but not afraid of trying. Would it be a mistake to buy? Looks like the only moped style big enough to fit me while pedaling at 6 4
@@charlesizdead4242 It’s pretty easy if you’re willing to try. Just take pictures of the layout before you pull the wheels off. There’s a lock washers that slides over the axel on each side. Just remember the orientation when you put it back together. I’d also grab a set of long Allen wrenches with a handle to make removing bolts easier. I stripped some of the bolts with the Allen wrenches they gave me and had to dremel a slot in the button head so I could use a flathead screwdriver.
I just don’t understand how these companies continue to sell 48 V bikes for so much money and expect to remain competitive in a market where bike starting to come out with 60 V for half the price
@@SwervinAround I’ve spent the last few month anticipating the purchase of a wired freedom, but now I’m about to buy a 2 year old onyx cty2 instead! Both bikes are 60v m, and I currently own an onyx cty2 and I just love onyx bikes so much, that I just have to have another one! I found one for a decent price with about 200 miles on it. If it’s anything like the one I own, it should top out at about 54mph. From what I’ve read in the paperwork, it appears as if it was manufactured just two months prior to the one I have now.
@@SwervinAround I’ve like the pedal bike for awhile now, and didn’t understand the differences between 48v and 52v etc until just recently. I would love to own one, if you do end up deciding to sell yours. I certainly couldn’t afford it if it were new, but maybe I could afford yours depending on how much you evened up wanting for it. That is, if you even want to sell it at all. You said you were eyeballing another bike no, so I figured you may be considering getting rid of your pedal bike. I apologize if that’s not the case!
@@jcolt84 I’m certainly not opposed to selling. If I had the space I’d keep the bike and get a second. UnfortunateIy I don’t have room in my garage for 3 e bikes (my gf wants one too) so if I get another for myself I would have to sell this one for the room. You local to OC?
@@meyergomes go buy a good set of long hex wrenches with a handle first. It makes a world of difference. I stripped a few of the bolts using the factory Allen wrenches that I ended up having to Dremel a slot in the button head to use a flathead screw driver haha. Once you start hearing noise again, it’s usually time to tighten the spokes and then it goes away. Don’t be afraid to really grease it. I’ve done it twice now because first time wasn’t enough. Put a coat around the outside drum and another around the motor that goes inside the drum. I’d also lightly dab some throughout the teeth of the gears.
Hey I was looking into this bike along with several others. I had several questions and concerns but there was no response. The website doesn’t answer my questions. I guess they want you to check out reviews instead of trying to help answering questions. You have a good review tutorial.
@@josephpuchel6497 thanks, man! If you have any questions feel free to let me know. I’ll answer anything I know the answer to haha.
Excellent honest review, refreshing. Thank you.
@@eMotoPortland Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.
@@SwervinAround Have you looked into upgrading the rear shocks? Seems like a simple mod.
@@eMotoPortland I haven’t done it yet but I saw on the Pedal Facebook group that you need to buy shock risers since most aftermarket shocks are not an exact fit. One guy used these with success: a.co/d/3kJwqGc
Thanks for the review! I'm shocked to hear about the rear shocks- I've been researching this purchase for several months and this is the first I'm hearing about it. Also sad to hear about the customer service and the motor grease issue, but I appreciate the in-depth details!
Overall, would you recommend buying this bike, or, would you suggest waiting a year or two to see if they do another refresh to fix some of the problems you mentioned? Also, how do you feel about the add-ons that they sell, like the baskets and racks? They seem incredibly expensive (their metal basket is listed for $250) and they don't seem worth it at all IMO
@@mgsv_morbidslinky The customer service seems to be the case for a lot of big manufacturers. I see people complaining about super 73 and ride1up customer support all the time in their Reddit subs. It’s just frustrating to deal with. It’s more so for those that aren’t the hands on type. Personally, I don’t think waiting a year will change much in that regard. Maybe they’ll upgrade the suspension but you can always get aftermarket with a spacer. They’ve been around long enough to have a few generations of bikes by now so the lack customer support is probably not going anywhere. Overall the bike is a blast so if you’re into the e-moped style of bike and are comfortable doing your own maintenance (motor greasing, tightening spokes, cleaning drive train and chain etc) then I’d say it’s worth it.
I will say this though if you plan on getting a second e-bike for a partner, I’d get a different brand. That way you’re not dealing with Pedals customer support on two bikes. I plan on doing that for my gf.
I can’t speak for the other eco system parts but I do like the in frame basket. I keep one of those heavy kryptonite chains in it as well as a water bottle when riding. I’ve also stashed a hoodie in it when it’s hot so it’s definitely useful. The in frame is nice because you don’t ruin the aesthetics by loading up the cargo rack in the back or strapping a bag to it.
Where did you get your new seat? Awesome review, the back shocks suck.
@@parkergunderson4562 I got it on ebay. If you search Pedal Electric seat the sellers name is Hippo something.
Video on how to grease the motor, please?
@@jthecrew It’s pretty straightforward. First remove the battery (put a rag down on the ground to protect the display) and flip the bike upside down on the handlebars. Then take a picture of the orientation of each wheel, specifically the lock washers (it’s the closest piece to the hub) to reference later. Disconnect the cables that go to each motor. Then take a wheel off and unscrew the bolts to the cover plate of the hub motor. For the front wheel, the cover plate is on the opposite side of the brake rotor. The back wheel, the cover plate is on the same side as the rotor so you’ll need a longer Allen wrench. Once you have a wheel off and the bolts to the cover plate removed, bang the axel on the opposite side of the cover plate with a mallet (you can also pick up the wheel and bang the axel on the ground too) until the motor starts sliding out of the housing. Once removed, rub a good amount of automotive grease inside the drum of the empty housing then wipe grease with your finger around the planetary gears (there’s 3) and axle. Then put it back together, screw the bolts back in and put the wheel back on. That’s all there is to it. Start with the front wheel since it’s easier and you’ll know what the motor looks like. The back wheel is trickier because you have to weave the axel and derailleur through the bike chain to get the wheel off. The derailleur is connected to the rear hub motor so it will come off with the wheel and stay connected. If using the ground instead of a mallet, pick up the rear wheel and bang the derailleur side of the axel onto the ground until the cover plate and break rotor comes off revealing the motor. Then grease it like you did the front. Once you put the wheel back on reconnect the wires and you’re all done. I’ll try and film a video of the process in the near future.
Hey brother good video. Dont firget to mention there are upgrades coming to the bikes soon.
Hey brother, could you please show us how to do the speed unlocking. 🙏🏽 My AWD won’t even let me get past 25…when they literally marketed it max speed 36 smh
@@TheMoanaWay Do you have the AWD S? It might be different depending on the model. I can put up a video on how to do it. I’ve been busy with work so I’ll try and get one uploaded by the end of the week.
@@SwervinAround yeah I have the AWD S, with the same display unit you have. Ok sounds awesome man, looking forward to that vid 👌🏽thank u
🙌🏼Thank you🙌🏼
Hey dude! Greetings from Irvine. I am not a tinkerer but not afraid of trying. Would it be a mistake to buy? Looks like the only moped style big enough to fit me while pedaling at 6 4
@@charlesizdead4242 It’s pretty easy if you’re willing to try. Just take pictures of the layout before you pull the wheels off. There’s a lock washers that slides over the axel on each side. Just remember the orientation when you put it back together. I’d also grab a set of long Allen wrenches with a handle to make removing bolts easier. I stripped some of the bolts with the Allen wrenches they gave me and had to dremel a slot in the button head so I could use a flathead screwdriver.
Swerve, where did you get your new seat?
@@parkergunderson4562 on eBay. Search Pedal Electric sear and sellers name is Hippo something.
Where did you get the seat?
@@explooge222 I ordered it on eBay. The sellers name is hippo something.
Did you find out where to the new Seat for the pedal bike?
@@parkergunderson4562 www.ebay.com/itm/226303263526?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=WEWFl7XVSVK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Q-T6l1oRTLu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@explooge222 www.ebay.com/itm/226303263526?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=WEWFl7XVSVK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Q-T6l1oRTLu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Yes the customer service is horrible!
I just don’t understand how these companies continue to sell 48 V bikes for so much money and expect to remain competitive in a market where bike starting to come out with 60 V for half the price
@@jcolt84 yeah all the manufacturers are moving fast with updates I noticed. I’m already eying another bike haha.
@@SwervinAround I’ve spent the last few month anticipating the purchase of a wired freedom, but now I’m about to buy a 2 year old onyx cty2 instead! Both bikes are 60v m, and I currently own an onyx cty2 and I just love onyx bikes so much, that I just have to have another one! I found one for a decent price with about 200 miles on it. If it’s anything like the one I own, it should top out at about 54mph. From what I’ve read in the paperwork, it appears as if it was manufactured just two months prior to the one I have now.
@@SwervinAround I’ve like the pedal bike for awhile now, and didn’t understand the differences between 48v and 52v etc until just recently. I would love to own one, if you do end up deciding to sell yours. I certainly couldn’t afford it if it were new, but maybe I could afford yours depending on how much you evened up wanting for it. That is, if you even want to sell it at all. You said you were eyeballing another bike no, so I figured you may be considering getting rid of your pedal bike. I apologize if that’s not the case!
@@jcolt84 I’m certainly not opposed to selling. If I had the space I’d keep the bike and get a second. UnfortunateIy I don’t have room in my garage for 3 e bikes (my gf wants one too) so if I get another for myself I would have to sell this one for the room. You local to OC?
@@SwervinAround Orange County? No, unfortunately I’m not. I live in Southern Illinois, so that’s quite a long ways away from you.
Yeah im gonna grease the motors...that was me
@@meyergomes go buy a good set of long hex wrenches with a handle first. It makes a world of difference. I stripped a few of the bolts using the factory Allen wrenches that I ended up having to Dremel a slot in the button head to use a flathead screw driver haha. Once you start hearing noise again, it’s usually time to tighten the spokes and then it goes away. Don’t be afraid to really grease it. I’ve done it twice now because first time wasn’t enough. Put a coat around the outside drum and another around the motor that goes inside the drum. I’d also lightly dab some throughout the teeth of the gears.