"Cadet McClain, I noticed you did not participate in Hell Night. Why?" "Well, sir, I didn't really like it when it was done to me and I didn't want to do it to anyone else."
@@stevesteve5804 lemme guess you’re over the age of 30, a boomer, and constantly uses the word woke. Shit Is getting cringe atp also this is citadel , not the marine corps
Yeah I actually really liked the way he had a firm tone but remained polite and respectful. That's how it should be since you really don't need to be screaming and going on power trips to control freshmen.
@@BurtonGuster57 Basically, people who haven’t done shit or dick yelling at other people who haven’t done shit or dick either. At least on the enlisted side (And OCS) we are trained by people who’ve deployed, served their country and experienced the military.
@@mac001texas Pretty sure this is for normal 18-19 year olds that want some form of discipline. Not veterans that already went through boot camp/basic training and know basic military bearing and discipline
I saw a pic from West Point about 10 years ago of a cadet with a CIB and Airborne wings and of course probably around 6 ribbons....If I was an upper classman i would have been intimidated by him deep down as i was yelling at him due to me knowing i was a drug store cowboy yelling at a true blue bas ass
Trying to raise strong kids here. If you are soft they will be soft. This school is not for everyone. As a mom of a cadet, I know my son is tough, but I hope they make him tougher. In this world one must be strong to survive.
Its used as a term of hierarchy. The individual that used it has been there in their shoes. The Knob is like a baby, not knowing anything going on. Its not meant to be disrespectful.
Cadet Tiberghien, keep up the great attitude, maintain the warm smile and never, ever forget how you started... I hope you reach as high as possible and bring about a positive change... US Army veteran
This is how it's been for generation. My grandfather went there with this type of welcome, as did my dad 30 years later. I never even thought of attending. It creates outstanding Cadets.
Cadet Tiberghien keep up your awesome awesome attitude when you become an officer you’re already a gentleman and everyone under your command will appreciate that
I'm still surprised my brother made it through 4 years of this and still am not completely clear on what happened toward the end of high school that made him think, "yeah, this is what I want." But I respect it. He was a completely different person after knob year. Ever since he's been straight laced, buff, deep voiced, no nonsense, hard working model of a soldier and citizen.
Ties to the Confederacy? No shit. It's located in Charleston, SC -- you know, that place where the secessionist movement began. The entire South had ties to the Confederacy.
Partially correct. Citadel Cadets manning Ft Moultrie at the entrance to the Charleston Harbor fired on The Star of The West, a Union supply ship that was attempting to reach Ft. Sumter to resupply and bolster it's garrison of Union troops. These were the shots that started the Civil War. The action is commemorated by a gold star on one side of the Band of Gold, the ring that Citadel Graduates earn.
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. Cadet Tiberghien, if you go on to serve as an officer in the US military, your attitude will cause people to follow you into hell and I'm sure that with your training and education, you will be able to bring them back home, one way or an other. USA!
“I’m not your friend don’t say thank you to me” has to be one of the most stupid statements I heard in this video. That seems like a direct conflict with what they’re teaching there & basically saying don’t be respectful to your peers or higher ups.
Yeah I agree, I would find it more respectful if someone says thank you. That's usually how it is in our society anyway, not saying thanks just comes off as rude.
I was Rat at VMI this past August. I was there for 10 days. Sounds pretty weak, i know. Made it through hell week just fine but that about did it for me. Being a student in a top-notch education system coupled with the challenges of life on the Rat line was more than what I was prepared to deal with. Hats off to the guys and gals who stick with it and make it through, because these schools are no joke.
Were/Are you both planning to go into the military after? Because I do not understand why anyone would pay college tuition to be treated like that when you can go to a regular college and actually have fun or go to West Point and not pay. I do not understand why someone would pick VMI.
People get military scholarships to go to these schools. So, it isn't usually people just coming here paying full cost to not join. Also, these schools have great academics and alumni networks. VMI is the #5 public school in the nation. It certainly isn't for everyone, but people have different priorities and passions. Some people say it keeps them focused as well, instead of partying and females everywhere.@@NikkiDoesStufff
As an alumnus, I laughed at the part where the Commandant said that hazing would result in expulsion. If that were the case, very few members of the Corps of Cadets would remain. Also, I doubt that alumni protested against the Confederate flag being in the chapel.
This entire video takes place during the first 2 days of challenge week. They meet there cadre the next morning, that is when they bring the intensity. This video does not represent the school well because there is no cadre.
I can’t imagine how this must have felt to the combat veterans going here to go mustang. Imagine being an actual war fighter getting yelled at by these college kids 😂
It reminds me of the fact that Audie Murphy briefly considered attending West Point after the war. That would be a sight - seeing a cadet chewing him out with a Medal of Honor around his neck.
Rarely, if ever, have prior military attend as Cadets. There us a robust veteran day program where they attend class with Cadets, but are not in the Corps. Navy and Marines also send Enlisted Commissioning Program active duty, but while they wear their service uniform l, they are also day students.
It should be noted, none of these cadets are acting as cadre, this is an in processing day followed by two days of orientation. Cadre period was not mentioned or really shown here.
One thing I wonder about is whether all the students really want to be there. It's not hard to imagine parents telling a troublemaking teen that the only way they'll pay for college is if he goes to the Citadel, in the hopes that the discipline might straighten him out.
Only the cadets that are there actually want to be there. Nobody can force someone to go and successfully graduate. The people that can't or don't want to do it, leave.
@@R32R38 It's possible, when I was there though, I only ever met 1 guy during hell week that was there that was just on the fence about being there. Wasn't even forced but just wasn't sure that's where he really wanted to be. It is more often than not people who can't take the mental and physical strain hell week takes on your body and mind. It's like being put into a pressure cooker. "Artificial Stress" is the word to use. If you're on the fence about being there, or forced to be there you aren't there for long. No amount of outside pressure will keep you there. You have to want it yourself.
I don’t blame that kid for laughing at him. I would’ve laughed too. He sounds as scary as a chihuahua. I wouldn’t have put him in the front lines he’s not intimidating at all just annoying.
As a 1979 graduate, it's pretty obvious a number of those commenting immaturely on the video needed this type of structure and discipline when they were younger. Kudos to my alma mater. It has changed but everything evolves. It stays true to its mission.
Teaching the students to not look at instructors and stare straight forward was very effective for me. It encouraged me to stop judging people so much. If America converts all public and private schools into a military academy structure like this, would it help everyone grow up better? Less laziness? Less bullying? Less school shootings? More willing to work when they become adults? Outwork the disciplined Chinese work force? What do you all think? Students with learning disabilities would be placed into a separate unit with more flexibility and attention. Students with autism can surprisingly be successful as well. What do you all think?
When I went to the Citadel for a task with the Marine Corps, I found the environment rather strange. 1. I’ve never been on a college campus so I had no clue where things would be, definitely took some time to get used to. 2. The craziest thing to me was that the barracks doors were all unlocked. We had no keys, so unless someone was in the room all of our belongings were left unattended. I hope they give their “knobs” and other cadets keys to their rooms. The food was rather subpar. I spent a lot of money on DoorDash. And the weather, 95 degrees with 90% humidity at 9am. Thank god we were inside most of the day
@@Simone-oo2ibpeople do all of those things there. It’s just about not getting caught nowadays. And if you do get caught, you gotta hope that the person doesn’t pull you. The honor code’s a joke at this school.
@@eyebrawler6567 That falls on the leadership. The only reason l can see to be a cadet now is if you’re a contract. There’s so many c/o 2027 non-contract that aren’t going back. I was just told a TAC is an alcoholic and drinks on campus. There can’t be honor if there’s failing leadership at the top. The Cadre has really failed them.
Just remember it's nothing personal and the upperclassmen may seem harsh but they are your advocate to groom you for success and help get you through this. If you survive the freshman year you'll understand completely or you won't be there.
@@kenyazboston8958 I'm pretty much old enough to be to be these kid's father. I'm not seeking their approval or buying into their authority for the sake of it. That's kind of my point. Inside their bubble this stuff works. And that's fine if that's what they want to do. But when dealing with grown adults who think and have life experience, it just doesn't have an effect.
@@airline_peanutsThink and have life experience isn’t exactly what the esteemed US Armed forces is looking for, but for what they want this works fine.
Thanks for this video. My son is 16 and asked about The Citadel. I showed him this video and within the first 5 seconds saw that little girl yelling a the new cadet “why are you smiling” he was like “Nope, I’m good”. At any other college, this behavior would be considered hazing.
I receive nonstop humor when cadets order other cadets at military academies. After commissioning, if they actually complete final training, reality is revealed.
As a mom of a fourth year cadet, and this years Regimental Deputy Commander, I can tell you that knob year was awfully hard… but he has learned he has no limits to what he can endure. He has learned to manage his time, his work and people. He has had a whole world opened to him of mentorship and opportunities. It’s a challenging environment but it creates principled leaders in the end.
He is? The stress the cadets are subjected to helps them make good decisons when the real stress shows up... Combat. You think people should be soft to everyone and not prepare them for what they will face? I'd rather go to war with folks who thrived in stressful situations. Join a Country Club if you're looking for friends.
Citadel cadets go thru as much fuss and fumble as Annapolis, if not worse. A Citadel graduate can become a very fine Navy officer. Might retire at Rear Admiral or better. Excellent education by a long shot.
Anyone could become a excellent Navy officer. The Cadets at the Citadel going through more unnecessary fuss and fumble if that's what you mean. But I would question the judgment of someone that thinks playing pretend military for four years is a better idea than at least being in the actual military at a service academy. Even if, of course, the academies are not the full picture of what being in the military is like.
Wait what!? There’s a military academy we’re you DONT have to serve after graduation!? What sick SOB would purposely put themselves through this lol dafuq!?
Maybe kids that need that discipline in their life without having to go through the real active duty hassle I dunno I’m spit balling here I’m just a dumb Jarhead
Charleston PD only hires from here. I'm a college grad with a degree in CJ and experienced in Security and Corrections. Went to an interview and was told I didn't have the experience they wanted. I told them oh ok but you are sitting here interviewing these kids who haven't even graduated yet😂🤔 interesting. I told them thanks for wasting my time.
I was about to go here for college and enlisted in the Marines instead in the early 2010s. Glad I just enlisted tbh and actually got to have the full military experience. At least I got hazed and fucked with by people with experience.
You made the right choice, I'd rather have someone with true military experience scream in my face than some 20 year old who thinks they know what they're talking about. I'm sorry but the power really does get to the heads of the upperclassmen, I know several people who went to military colleges and they all say the arrogance and egotistical attitude of the upperclassmen was the worst part besides the physical challenges.
@devonspain620 I did. And I can tell you one thing. Well, more than that but one thing is certain above any other piece of knowledge. 15th Finance Battalion at Fort Hood (0r whatever they're calling it now) is the most incompetent organization on earth
@devonspain620- no kidding. I did recruit training at Great Lakes in 1981. I don’t recall it being a “pleasant” experience, especially being only seventeen. I survived though and went on to serve six years. No regrets. 😉
@devonspain620 - oh yeah. I was there for almost a year completing Electronics Technician training after boot camp. Being from Southeastern Virginia, I will wholeheartedly state that Chicago winters suck. They don’t suck nearly as bad as NATO exercises above the Artic Circle in January though ! 🥶
I went to one of these pretend military colleges (Mass Maritime). Having actually served in the real military, the “regiment” is an absolute joke. The vast majority of the students never serve in the military. The type of people these schools attract are typically those that want to ride on the coattails of the military but lack the fortitude to actually serve. Needless to say, this type of environment has absolutely no benefit or application in the civilian world.
Some cadets claim that the reason that they joined The Citadel was to build their character, especially discipline instead of slacking off at a normal college. I don't know about Mass Maritime though, and what happened there.
I’ll never understand how cadets/midshipmen get hazed by their peers. Like these upperclassmen act like drill instructors. I could never take someone that’s like a year older than me seriously vs a 12 year GySgt Sergeant Instructor. It just does not compare
I agree, I'd laugh in the upperclassman's face and tell him off. It's one thing to be yelled at by someone with true experience and it's easier to respect that too, someone who is a year or two with no experience yelling at me wouldn't go well and I would probably get kicked out for that reason.
The funniest part is that people on the outside never understand the true molding process that is the Citadel. They see it as college students yelling at college students. Wannabe military. That’s not what the Citadel is about. It’s about creating better citizens and instilling leadership values. The Citadel takes individuals from all walks of life which means they have to break them down to be moldable like clay and create them anew as disciplined and trained citizens of our nation. The military aspect is there as a stressor to help cadets learn to handle complex and stressful environments without crumbling as soon as many would. All in all, it’s an experience few outside would understand the difficulty but also the pride that comes with being a Citadel cadet and eventually alumni.
Yeah, no. It is the pretend military. And not only that, you get to pay for the pleasure of going to that school. At least the real service academies pay you a monthly stipend while providing you with actual military experiences.
Citadel Cadet here. Yeah no it’s a wannabe military college where once you’re no longer a knob you learn how to 60% bully future knobs then 40% actually teach them shit that’s not even useful outside of the school. Standards practically don’t exist for anyone that’s not a freshmen. If I could go back in time I’d just go to a normal college or enlist like I originally wanted to do before my parents sent me here. This place makes you tougher, but also makes you even less likely to put up with people’s shit due to how many power tripping 20 year olds you have to deal with. The whole “Growing in leadership and discipline” thing is just a mask that covers up what actually happens. I’ve had cadet *officers* in my company lose rank for hazing and bringing alchohol into battalion. If anything it’s made some people bigger d heads or turn out more aggressive than they were before they came to the school. Very few actually change for the better. And Alumni just become cocky a holes that talk about “How hard I had it when I was a cadet!”.
@@eyebrawler6567 As a Citadel Alumni, I’m not saying it’s going to be the best thing ever. You’re going to have a lot of examples of bad leadership. But you’ll also have plenty of examples of good leadership. Outside of Disneyland, you have good, bad and mediocre leadership all around you wherever you go. In the “simulation” that is the Citadel, it allows you to make mistakes and work on your leadership skills. Not everybody improves them. Some get worse. But others, who genuinely seek to get something out the experience, work on themselves. A lot of the discipline you find at the Citadel starts your knob year when you get set on a schedule. It’s up to you the rest of your time there to keep up and improve your self discipline after a framework has been given. Some companies didn’t put up shit and others didn’t care. Luck of the draw on that unfortunately. It’s a good experience regardless to help you improve yourself and learn what not to do as well as what to improve on before you get into the real world where mistakes mean lives, time, and money rather than cons or tours.
Have you ever done or would you ever make a video about creating a coast guard drill instructor? Similar to the other branches? Just a suggestion, no pressure.
I had to turn up the volume because I couldn't hear the people giving instructions. I yell louder than these cadets to my patients while I scan them so they stay still. There is nothing stressful about this.
Why does everything have to be about race with Insider? The cadets all say we are just cadets we are all the same and the producers have to throw race back into it. 🙄
How is it any different from a frat house? 2/3 never join the military, so it's basically a big taxpayer-funded frat house that primarily functions to create a network of unearned privilege.
respect to the cadet at the end that wanted to try and help the cadets ease into their first year
Leadership comes in many different forms and styles. It takes a tremendous amount of courage for that leader to take a different approach.
"Cadet McClain, I noticed you did not participate in Hell Night. Why?" "Well, sir, I didn't really like it when it was done to me and I didn't want to do it to anyone else."
Give me a break. You think the enemy is going to cut any breaks. Stop with the woke garbage. It's not about feelings.
@@stevesteve5804 lemme guess you’re over the age of 30, a boomer, and constantly uses the word woke. Shit Is getting cringe atp also this is citadel , not the marine corps
Yeah I actually really liked the way he had a firm tone but remained polite and respectful. That's how it should be since you really don't need to be screaming and going on power trips to control freshmen.
It looks like a bunch of 20 year olds yelling at 18 year olds.
It is. And it’s awesome
Explain?
@@BurtonGuster57 Basically, people who haven’t done shit or dick yelling at other people who haven’t done shit or dick either. At least on the enlisted side (And OCS) we are trained by people who’ve deployed, served their country and experienced the military.
@@highlordfragbag7912 So in this situation these kids and instructors haven’t done shit lol?
@@BurtonGuster57 no
hats off to any enlisted veteran that goes to a military college and manages to put up with these guys trying to haze them.
Yea theyd be silly to subject themselves to this from 19 year olds after being in the real world/real military. Just go to any normal college lol.
@@mac001texas
Pretty sure this is for normal 18-19 year olds that want some form of discipline. Not veterans that already went through boot camp/basic training and know basic military bearing and discipline
@@rusty7984 It's a bit of both the citadel has a large and well-put-together ROTC program.
I saw a pic from West Point about 10 years ago of a cadet with a CIB and Airborne wings and of course probably around 6 ribbons....If I was an upper classman i would have been intimidated by him deep down as i was yelling at him due to me knowing i was a drug store cowboy yelling at a true blue bas ass
Not sure why a vet would want to go to the Citadel for school.
The guy at the 20 minute mark is gold. What an amazing young man. His parents should be proud. He is world changer.
Because in war the enemy is going to be so kind and polite. Right?
I want men to be tough, nothing can break them. Not even if you hurt his feelings. 🙄
@@Evyeve6582I dunno why you’re assuming cadre should be your enemy.
AS an officer myself, Cadet Tiberghien, you are going places!! Duty, honor and respec. No need to yell
That’s his job, “Artificial Stress”… he’s awesome!
Trying to raise strong kids here. As a mom of a cadet. I expect them to be tough, because my son is tougher. In war, no one will break him. ❤
Trying to raise strong kids here. If you are soft they will be soft. This school is not for everyone. As a mom of a cadet, I know my son is tough, but I hope they make him tougher. In this world one must be strong to survive.
Respectfully, sir, if you really are an officer. You shouldn't be advertising yourself as an officer on the internet. OPSEC.
@@breadknight2259 oh shut up dork
Calling somebody son, when you are barely older is ridiculous
lmfaooo its some Lord of the Flies shit
I laughed at that also, along with his theatre like command presence. No wonder why the knob was smiling at him.
Its used as a term of hierarchy. The individual that used it has been there in their shoes. The Knob is like a baby, not knowing anything going on. Its not meant to be disrespectful.
LMFAOOOO I SAID THE SAME SHI. 🤣
You would have to be there to understand before you reply to a bs video
If only they could ever discipline their horrendous football team this well….citadel football needs a lot of work
Can’t be losing to VMI of all people
The racism was the secret sauce
Lmao😂
gee, not like WePo is a football powerhouse
In USA highest paid person at university is normally football Coach
The “find your name” guy talking about shock and awe is fairly funny
I love Mr. Temple. He was in my company, last year!
Also this is an old reupload
@@SlowedBloom9188 smack
Cadet Tiberghien, keep up the great attitude, maintain the warm smile and never, ever forget how you started...
I hope you reach as high as possible and bring about a positive change...
US Army veteran
2:55 😂😂😂 Bro was hitting it one last time 😂😂
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I laughed when I saw those eyes 🤣
That eyes got me
Lmao he had to hit the Penjamin one more time 😂
Him and Snoop Dogg had one final outing!
This is how it's been for generation. My grandfather went there with this type of welcome, as did my dad 30 years later. I never even thought of attending. It creates outstanding Cadets.
It creates the biggest chach officers in the army
Cadet Tiberghien keep up your awesome awesome attitude when you become an officer you’re already a gentleman and everyone under your command will appreciate that
....He was in my company....He didn't go into the military
@@Jake_the_lad man I hope he’s doing amazingly in his career he deserves it.
I'm still surprised my brother made it through 4 years of this and still am not completely clear on what happened toward the end of high school that made him think, "yeah, this is what I want." But I respect it. He was a completely different person after knob year. Ever since he's been straight laced, buff, deep voiced, no nonsense, hard working model of a soldier and citizen.
he sounds like a complete tool
I cringed watching this😊
Ties to the Confederacy? No shit. It's located in Charleston, SC -- you know, that place where the secessionist movement began. The entire South had ties to the Confederacy.
Yeah sure, but it has more ties to the confederacy than many other Southern schools.
Yeah. I guess it could have given more context for people who were unfamiliar with why there were some race issues.
Here's a fact that most people didn't know: Citadel cadets fired the first shots to start the Civil War.
A Citadel graduate did not fire the first shot...Citadel Cadets fired the first shot on Ft. Sumpter.
Partially correct. Citadel Cadets manning Ft Moultrie at the entrance to the Charleston Harbor fired on The Star of The West, a Union supply ship that was attempting to reach Ft. Sumter to resupply and bolster it's garrison of Union troops. These were the shots that started the Civil War. The action is commemorated by a gold star on one side of the Band of Gold, the ring that Citadel Graduates earn.
Exactly.... I lmao the guy graduated from West Point. Smh journalism is a joke.
4:15 "Your disrespecting a future US Army Soldier" when he grew up
He really does give that vibe 😂
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. Cadet Tiberghien, if you go on to serve as an officer in the US military, your attitude will cause people to follow you into hell and I'm sure that with your training and education, you will be able to bring them back home, one way or an other. USA!
Common tibs dub
The black badge over his left pocket denotes that he is Army Scholarship/Contract. So he will serve in the Army after graduation.
Lots of people here are army contracts
Interviewed the most relaxed bat in the corps.
“I’m not your friend don’t say thank you to me” has to be one of the most stupid statements I heard in this video. That seems like a direct conflict with what they’re teaching there & basically saying don’t be respectful to your peers or higher ups.
Their* and that’s all part of the first class system. They are feed artificial stress.
He's inducing stress with wordplay.. that is his duty. Cadets will eventually learn to thrive in stressful situations.. that is the goal.
Yeah I agree, I would find it more respectful if someone says thank you. That's usually how it is in our society anyway, not saying thanks just comes off as rude.
Hats off to that guy who spoke Japanese
We got a good chunk of Taiwanese and Thai cadets at the school that come here to do their cadet stuff
It would be pretty scary being screamed at in Japanese while another guy sticks a carrot up your butt
I was Rat at VMI this past August. I was there for 10 days. Sounds pretty weak, i know. Made it through hell week just fine but that about did it for me. Being a student in a top-notch education system coupled with the challenges of life on the Rat line was more than what I was prepared to deal with. Hats off to the guys and gals who stick with it and make it through, because these schools are no joke.
which company were you? i’m a rat at vmi rn
@@unclelo05I was with India
Were/Are you both planning to go into the military after? Because I do not understand why anyone would pay college tuition to be treated like that when you can go to a regular college and actually have fun or go to West Point and not pay. I do not understand why someone would pick VMI.
People get military scholarships to go to these schools. So, it isn't usually people just coming here paying full cost to not join. Also, these schools have great academics and alumni networks. VMI is the #5 public school in the nation. It certainly isn't for everyone, but people have different priorities and passions. Some people say it keeps them focused as well, instead of partying and females everywhere.@@NikkiDoesStufff
@@rileyalfonso6091 interesting. Fair enough.
Congratulations to my son Ryan for completing is knob year with strength and determination. So very proud of how strong he is. ❤
As an alumnus, I laughed at the part where the Commandant said that hazing would result in expulsion. If that were the case, very few members of the Corps of Cadets would remain. Also, I doubt that alumni protested against the Confederate flag being in the chapel.
As former enlisted, It is really fun to watch this LARP.
Yeah it's crazy they think they're scary or something my drill sergeants in 2005 were about 500x more intimidating
These kids will be successful, it’s good to test yourself and to go against the grain to better your character
This entire video takes place during the first 2 days of challenge week. They meet there cadre the next morning, that is when they bring the intensity. This video does not represent the school well because there is no cadre.
I can’t imagine how this must have felt to the combat veterans going here to go mustang. Imagine being an actual war fighter getting yelled at by these college kids 😂
It reminds me of the fact that Audie Murphy briefly considered attending West Point after the war. That would be a sight - seeing a cadet chewing him out with a Medal of Honor around his neck.
Rarely, if ever, have prior military attend as Cadets. There us a robust veteran day program where they attend class with Cadets, but are not in the Corps. Navy and Marines also send Enlisted Commissioning Program active duty, but while they wear their service uniform l, they are also day students.
Doesnt happen
@@LuvSubbin I don't think that would have happened, Murphy was a war hero on the front of every newspaper, every man in the country respected him
@@LuvSubbinActually Audie Murphy's wounds prevented him from attending West Point...
citadel grad here, I can assure you it gets significantly worse once things happen about 10 hours after this.
You know when you call someone a "Knob" in the UK or Australia they aren't referring to a door knob.
So what? The Citadel isn't in the UK or Australia. The meaning of a term somewhere else is completely irrelevant.
But also the swear word knob.
That’s probably the real meaning. ‘Door knob’ is just the cover story.
As a graduate of the citadel I can confirm that “doorknob” isn’t the real meaning
As an American, the first thing I thought of was the UK meaning of the word “knob.” Hilarious 😂
THEY GOT MY BOY ON THE THUMBNAIL
"Permission to touch?" "Sir no sir" " Aaaight"
Out of all of the mil academy officers I worked with. I enjoyed the Citadel and VMI guys the most. Definitely more down to earth than the others.
It should be noted, none of these cadets are acting as cadre, this is an in processing day followed by two days of orientation. Cadre period was not mentioned or really shown here.
The cadets here are the cadre. The 4th class system does not start the first day.
One thing I wonder about is whether all the students really want to be there. It's not hard to imagine parents telling a troublemaking teen that the only way they'll pay for college is if he goes to the Citadel, in the hopes that the discipline might straighten him out.
Only the cadets that are there actually want to be there. Nobody can force someone to go and successfully graduate. The people that can't or don't want to do it, leave.
@@besteffortint I would not be surprised if the cadets who drop out early are disproportionately the forced-to-go ones.
@@R32R38 It's possible, when I was there though, I only ever met 1 guy during hell week that was there that was just on the fence about being there. Wasn't even forced but just wasn't sure that's where he really wanted to be. It is more often than not people who can't take the mental and physical strain hell week takes on your body and mind. It's like being put into a pressure cooker. "Artificial Stress" is the word to use. If you're on the fence about being there, or forced to be there you aren't there for long. No amount of outside pressure will keep you there. You have to want it yourself.
Sum are either offered a court sentence order or this
@@UmissedThis1I believe your mistaking us with the army and marines. The citadel does not receive juvenile offenders.
19:40 the way my boy tibby got rejected lmfao
9:14 Lmao! 🤣 There's always someone who can't help themselves and smile like an idiot. They'll learn or get roasted in front of everyone endlessly 😆
Honestly he probably heard someone say something funny and started laughing. That laugh dissolved very quickly though lol.
2:55 that dude had a very deep and saturated weekend 😂
The 1SG’s tone at 9:27 was more annoying than stress inducing. But it’s good to see that the corps is still tough!
This is an old reupload
@@kishascapeno it isn't. I'm a knob here and some of those people are literally in my company.
yeah that dude is nauseating
He’s from band company originally so
I don’t blame that kid for laughing at him. I would’ve laughed too. He sounds as scary as a chihuahua. I wouldn’t have put him in the front lines he’s not intimidating at all just annoying.
5:56 The disappointment in "You showed up in slides?" 😂
"you know where you're at son?"
Bro you're the same age lmfao
Yeah I found that weird. I would've sarcastically been like nope lol.
That guy at the end in the store definitely acts the most military out of anyone there
As a 1979 graduate, it's pretty obvious a number of those commenting immaturely on the video needed this type of structure and discipline when they were younger. Kudos to my alma mater. It has changed but everything evolves. It stays true to its mission.
"At Dawns Early Light," a great Colombo episode was filmed here. Gives a good historical account of what the school was like in the 70s.
That ginger Alex guy is so adorable and pleasant. May he become a big cheese and shape the school with his kind heart and wisdom.
Teaching the students to not look at instructors and stare straight forward was very effective for me. It encouraged me to stop judging people so much. If America converts all public and private schools into a military academy structure like this, would it help everyone grow up better? Less laziness? Less bullying? Less school shootings? More willing to work when they become adults? Outwork the disciplined Chinese work force? What do you all think? Students with learning disabilities would be placed into a separate unit with more flexibility and attention. Students with autism can surprisingly be successful as well.
What do you all think?
Kid named Civil Liberties: 😮
Why don't you move to North Korea?
That kid at 2:54 looks high AF lol
When I went to the Citadel for a task with the Marine Corps, I found the environment rather strange. 1. I’ve never been on a college campus so I had no clue where things would be, definitely took some time to get used to. 2. The craziest thing to me was that the barracks doors were all unlocked. We had no keys, so unless someone was in the room all of our belongings were left unattended. I hope they give their “knobs” and other cadets keys to their rooms. The food was rather subpar. I spent a lot of money on DoorDash. And the weather, 95 degrees with 90% humidity at 9am. Thank god we were inside most of the day
“A cadet does not lie, cheat, or steal nor tolerate those who do” is literally on the wall on a bronze plaque
@@Simone-oo2ibpeople do all of those things there. It’s just about not getting caught nowadays. And if you do get caught, you gotta hope that the person doesn’t pull you. The honor code’s a joke at this school.
@@eyebrawler6567 That falls on the leadership. The only reason l can see to be a cadet now is if you’re a contract. There’s so many c/o 2027 non-contract that aren’t going back. I was just told a TAC is an alcoholic and drinks on campus. There can’t be honor if there’s failing leadership at the top. The Cadre has really failed them.
Just remember it's nothing personal and the upperclassmen may seem harsh but they are your advocate to groom you for success and help get you through this. If you survive the freshman year you'll understand completely or you won't be there.
10:49 had me laughing 😂😂
He has 0 expressions
NPC
Bro got sent there by his parents 😂
"I just got randomly selected, sir."
Not randomly selected, you got voluntold, Cadet Joerger.
Permission to touch is the best. Props to that guy for being nice
i deliver here for doordash all the time these guys look dead all day lol
Boy, when that single bead of sweat ran down the poor ginger's face... I felt that.
This type of stuff only works on 18 yr old kids who have never left home.
You should go and apply
@@kenyazboston8958 I'm pretty much old enough to be to be these kid's father. I'm not seeking their approval or buying into their authority for the sake of it. That's kind of my point. Inside their bubble this stuff works. And that's fine if that's what they want to do. But when dealing with grown adults who think and have life experience, it just doesn't have an effect.
@@airline_peanutsThink and have life experience isn’t exactly what the esteemed US Armed forces is looking for, but for what they want this works fine.
2:55 bro is in another dimension 😂
5:57 you showed up in slides had me rolling
Lmao the “Ballin Hustle” kid at 11:49
Thanks for this video. My son is 16 and asked about The Citadel. I showed him this video and within the first 5 seconds saw that little girl yelling a the new cadet “why are you smiling” he was like “Nope, I’m good”.
At any other college, this behavior would be considered hazing.
The smile dissolved quick
I like these kinda places, I was a sea cadet and did boot camp. It was a good life lesson!
The most unmotivated sounding guy “ you are the most motivated speaker you motivate me.”
"Artificial stress"??? I still remember my basic in the mid 90's and there was nothing artificial about the stress. Lmao!
I receive nonstop humor when cadets order other cadets at military academies. After commissioning, if they actually complete final training, reality is revealed.
Ngl i haven’t seen the stars and bars on campus or in the chapel, the got rid of the flags a few yrs back
5:57 You gotta be kidding me !!!! You got accepted to a military school and showed up in slides. SMH
I’m sure he paid for that mistake!
Honestly even I was wondering how he made a blunder like that and how he was able to walk that far without being caught.
It'd be cool to see one on the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy.
Kappa Pi Sigma
How refreshing it is to be on a college campus where respect of your country, faculty and fellow students is pervasive throughout.
As a mom of a fourth year cadet, and this years Regimental Deputy Commander, I can tell you that knob year was awfully hard… but he has learned he has no limits to what he can endure. He has learned to manage his time, his work and people. He has had a whole world opened to him of mentorship and opportunities. It’s a challenging environment but it creates principled leaders in the end.
"Don't you ever get that close to me"
*smiles and steps closer*
I think he was messing with her. It looked deliberate to me.
@@rem-0515 I know right 😂
The way his eyes lit up when the cadet started speaking Korean was pretty cool. Beat army
bro it was mentioned like seven times that he was speaking Japanese, wtf
Do the Virginia Tech Corps of cadets!!!! They do this in the middle of a civilian college!! Much more interesting!!!!
I would go to war with Tiberghien, he's a leader...
He is? The stress the cadets are subjected to helps them make good decisons when the real stress shows up... Combat. You think people should be soft to everyone and not prepare them for what they will face? I'd rather go to war with folks who thrived in stressful situations. Join a Country Club if you're looking for friends.
Citadel cadets go thru as much fuss and fumble as Annapolis, if not worse. A Citadel graduate can become a very fine Navy officer. Might retire at Rear Admiral or better. Excellent education by a long shot.
Anyone could become a excellent Navy officer. The Cadets at the Citadel going through more unnecessary fuss and fumble if that's what you mean. But I would question the judgment of someone that thinks playing pretend military for four years is a better idea than at least being in the actual military at a service academy. Even if, of course, the academies are not the full picture of what being in the military is like.
Much respect. Gig’em 👍🏻 L-2 ‘84
Rough Tough .. Real Stuff
LOOOOOOOOL those interviews... good lord
Wait what!? There’s a military academy we’re you DONT have to serve after graduation!? What sick SOB would purposely put themselves through this lol dafuq!?
Maybe kids that need that discipline in their life without having to go through the real active duty hassle I dunno I’m spit balling here I’m just a dumb Jarhead
Proud Citadel Grad here, nice to see someone notice the school.
I’m very interested in this. (Not to attend but it’s cool to learn) Is it ok if I ask how it was and where you are now?
Charleston PD only hires from here. I'm a college grad with a degree in CJ and experienced in Security and Corrections. Went to an interview and was told I didn't have the experience they wanted. I told them oh ok but you are sitting here interviewing these kids who haven't even graduated yet😂🤔 interesting. I told them thanks for wasting my time.
For good reason
@@Memerino-ly7yr good reason what?
The guy handin out pts, i could tell that hes so happy for these folks, prolly was in their shoes just a bit ago
The narrators voice 😂 as if this is the next Marvel movie or something
I was about to go here for college and enlisted in the Marines instead in the early 2010s. Glad I just enlisted tbh and actually got to have the full military experience. At least I got hazed and fucked with by people with experience.
You made the right choice, I'd rather have someone with true military experience scream in my face than some 20 year old who thinks they know what they're talking about. I'm sorry but the power really does get to the heads of the upperclassmen, I know several people who went to military colleges and they all say the arrogance and egotistical attitude of the upperclassmen was the worst part besides the physical challenges.
respect to anyone who goes 4 years at Citadel or VMI or any non-academy military school, because why tf would you do that to yourself lol
Mad respect to everyone. Could not do this myself
2:55 bro stoned 💀
Looks a lot easier than my time at Navy boot camp in July to September 1973.
Navy 💀
@devonspain620 I did. And I can tell you one thing. Well, more than that but one thing is certain above any other piece of knowledge. 15th Finance Battalion at Fort Hood (0r whatever they're calling it now) is the most incompetent organization on earth
@devonspain620- no kidding. I did recruit training at Great Lakes in 1981. I don’t recall it being a “pleasant” experience, especially being only seventeen. I survived though and went on to serve six years. No regrets. 😉
@devonspain620 - oh yeah. I was there for almost a year completing Electronics Technician training after boot camp. Being from Southeastern Virginia, I will wholeheartedly state that Chicago winters suck. They don’t suck nearly as bad as NATO exercises above the Artic Circle in January though ! 🥶
God bless these young men and women!
I went to one of these pretend military colleges (Mass Maritime). Having actually served in the real military, the “regiment” is an absolute joke. The vast majority of the students never serve in the military. The type of people these schools attract are typically those that want to ride on the coattails of the military but lack the fortitude to actually serve. Needless to say, this type of environment has absolutely no benefit or application in the civilian world.
Some cadets claim that the reason that they joined The Citadel was to build their character, especially discipline instead of slacking off at a normal college. I don't know about Mass Maritime though, and what happened there.
I’ll never understand how cadets/midshipmen get hazed by their peers. Like these upperclassmen act like drill instructors. I could never take someone that’s like a year older than me seriously vs a 12 year GySgt Sergeant Instructor. It just does not compare
I agree, I'd laugh in the upperclassman's face and tell him off. It's one thing to be yelled at by someone with true experience and it's easier to respect that too, someone who is a year or two with no experience yelling at me wouldn't go well and I would probably get kicked out for that reason.
The funniest part is that people on the outside never understand the true molding process that is the Citadel. They see it as college students yelling at college students. Wannabe military. That’s not what the Citadel is about. It’s about creating better citizens and instilling leadership values. The Citadel takes individuals from all walks of life which means they have to break them down to be moldable like clay and create them anew as disciplined and trained citizens of our nation. The military aspect is there as a stressor to help cadets learn to handle complex and stressful environments without crumbling as soon as many would. All in all, it’s an experience few outside would understand the difficulty but also the pride that comes with being a Citadel cadet and eventually alumni.
“Wannabe military” that’s exactly what it is.
Yeah, no. It is the pretend military. And not only that, you get to pay for the pleasure of going to that school. At least the real service academies pay you a monthly stipend while providing you with actual military experiences.
Citadel Cadet here. Yeah no it’s a wannabe military college where once you’re no longer a knob you learn how to 60% bully future knobs then 40% actually teach them shit that’s not even useful outside of the school. Standards practically don’t exist for anyone that’s not a freshmen. If I could go back in time I’d just go to a normal college or enlist like I originally wanted to do before my parents sent me here. This place makes you tougher, but also makes you even less likely to put up with people’s shit due to how many power tripping 20 year olds you have to deal with.
The whole “Growing in leadership and discipline” thing is just a mask that covers up what actually happens. I’ve had cadet *officers* in my company lose rank for hazing and bringing alchohol into battalion. If anything it’s made some people bigger d heads or turn out more aggressive than they were before they came to the school. Very few actually change for the better. And Alumni just become cocky a holes that talk about “How hard I had it when I was a cadet!”.
@@eyebrawler6567 As a Citadel Alumni, I’m not saying it’s going to be the best thing ever. You’re going to have a lot of examples of bad leadership. But you’ll also have plenty of examples of good leadership. Outside of Disneyland, you have good, bad and mediocre leadership all around you wherever you go. In the “simulation” that is the Citadel, it allows you to make mistakes and work on your leadership skills. Not everybody improves them. Some get worse. But others, who genuinely seek to get something out the experience, work on themselves. A lot of the discipline you find at the Citadel starts your knob year when you get set on a schedule. It’s up to you the rest of your time there to keep up and improve your self discipline after a framework has been given. Some companies didn’t put up shit and others didn’t care. Luck of the draw on that unfortunately. It’s a good experience regardless to help you improve yourself and learn what not to do as well as what to improve on before you get into the real world where mistakes mean lives, time, and money rather than cons or tours.
Have you ever done or would you ever make a video about creating a coast guard drill instructor? Similar to the other branches? Just a suggestion, no pressure.
Coast Guard boot camp is brutal. much worse than the Marines. At least the Marine DI's want you to succeed.
I had to turn up the volume because I couldn't hear the people giving instructions. I yell louder than these cadets to my patients while I scan them so they stay still. There is nothing stressful about this.
7% attrition rate in the first year??? Geezum crow, that’s worse than West Point and Naval Academy. And many are paying for this crap too!!!
The irony is they show up to the unit and get shit on as LTs 😂😂😂 first and last time these “upper class men” get to try hard.
Why does everything have to be about race with Insider? The cadets all say we are just cadets we are all the same and the producers have to throw race back into it. 🙄
lets use our critical thinking here!!
Fuckin so proud of these humans. Even just showing up. Good on them
DUde at 9:22 this guy doesn't realize West Point even harder to get through
From my understanding, I think West Point may be the hardest military college to get into and the hardest to graduate from.
The Cadet at 11:48 lmfao 💀💀💀💀💀💀
15:55 He's a knob polisher lol
Haha! 😂
Oh good lord as a post grad from a senior military college… its so funny to see cadets
How is it any different from a frat house? 2/3 never join the military, so it's basically a big taxpayer-funded frat house that primarily functions to create a network of unearned privilege.
60k per year with a 4th class system is nothing like a Frat house.