Mr Hoovie, I too own a classic Jaguar. A 1967 420 Saloon. I spent hundreds of thousands having a frame off restoration. And yet it still leaks fluids. Jaguars are large wild cats, therefore they must mark their territory. Get used to it.
@@chris-gh4cd it's something you won't get until you own one. I got an S Type, and while it's not the most beautiful Jag ever made, it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
Hoovie, on the E-type 20w-50 oil. Fill to middle between marks on dipstick. Check oil breather screen on front of head to see that it’s clean, and the breather tube to the air cleaner must be internally clean, or oil will be blown out of the crank seals. Take a look at the oil feed line at the back of the head; these crack at the joints after 50 years and the leak looks just like a rear main seal leak. Make sure all six copper seal rings are visible on this oil line. (From a long -time E-type hooptie owner. )
That is definitely a car you should do a full restoration on. That project would generate a ton of content that I would thoroughly enjoy watching. What a beautiful auto!
I tried to warn you and the wizard about that rope seal. You need Jaguar tool JD-38 to properly size the seal and it's a crankshaft out job. The rope seal is actually very effective when installed properly and can last as long as a lip seal. Take it from someone who has restored several Jaguars. There are no shortcuts with these cars.
I almost bought a Buick Grand National that had a rear main seal leak and the guy said "it just needs a new rope seal, no big deal..." They are a big deal.
Also, that rust ain't "just starting" - once you can see a hole like that, it's well underway - once they start stripping the paint off that panel, it's going to look like swiss cheese.
Hoovie, I've owned about a dozen classic Jags over the years. Most, but not all, leaked oil from the rear main. As you say, the rope seals are just antiquated,-old-school technology and installing them is as much art as science. I would recommend buying an oil-drip pan, as you suggested, and driving and enjoying the car for now. You can always restore it later when you get the urge to make it perfect.
The problem is not limted to his garage, that is only the dripping after he drives it. It will also drip while driving an that is an environmental issue as well as the danger of someone slipping (i.e. bikers)
@@Heidelaffe Environmental issue??? BWAHAHAHAAAA Go visit India and watch how engines and ships are repaired and dismantled then talk to Americans about "environmental" disasters! What a ridiculous thing to say about small drips,
Hoovie, that is the best vehicle you have ever owned. It does deserve a complete restoration. It has lasting charm and style that has not been equaled. It is simply a timeless piece of art, give it what it deserves. Many cars will come a go, this is one you should take seriously and keep for the long haul.
the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@@fgb3126 Pristine except the rust forming underneath. I've been doing auto body repair since 1999 and rust doesn't just stop on it's own. If there are holes from rust then it is spread a lot farther than that. It is similar to cancer in that way. A car is much more than just the drivetrain and a drivetrain is nothing without a good chassis to propel. It's like having an expensive home theater system in a shack that's falling apart.
@@fgb3126 Nah not even close to pristine - that scuttle panel alone has a hole right through it - guarantee once you take a angle grinder to it, it'll look like swiss cheese. There will be a LOT of hidden rust in this, probably a lot of filler too, it's going to need a pile of new metal - but it's probably still worth doing.
@@jonathonsanders2508 Agree, once they start stripping the paint off this it's going to reveal all kinds of horrors. Bet it's got a pile of filler in it too. Still would be worth doing though.
@@Beer_Dad1975 I agree. People that have done this kind of work can easily spot the issues and challenges of doing it right. No telling what you may find beneath the paint but the car would totally be worth the attention.
Do the best repair for the leak, maybe a carb refresh, repair the rust and that's it. Enjoy it for a while and then you can decide if you like it to the point where you want a full restoration or if you leave it as is.
He already says to fix some of issues engine would have to go out anyways might as well get it all done or it's more money and time to take engine out another time just to get more parts fixed when yiu can do it all at once
@@treyhale8063 You need to draw the line somewhere, and the mistake was to save a little money in a big job, you can't save money in a big job, you need to do it properly or not do it at all. If you know that a better solution exists, do it.
Hoovie is doing a great service when he shares how much it costs to properly maintain many of his great classic cars. It helps educate the viewers who are thinking of taking the plunge into buying a classic. What a beautiful Jaguar.
I've been working aircraft both military and civilian since 1983. The military aircraft I first worked on used turbojet engines and we serviced all four engines with one case of oil after a flight. Many of the older mechanics I worked with had experience with radial recip engines and they serviced them with a 55 gallon drum, so...Now I work on modern turbofans, but when I started working on the leaking Rolls Royce engines, I was taught any leak you can jump over is ok.
Maybe not a concours restoration, but definitely a restoration. I think that by far, this is the sexiest and most visually stunning vehicle in your fleet, and getting to see more videos on the progress of repainting, an engine rebuild, and interior reupholstering would be a very interesting series to develop, especially given the already very great condition of the vehicle.
@@alanblanes2876 then you will never drive it. I would rather a really good usable condition car. Then I could drive it mid to days. Concourse cars are museum pieces. They cars were made to be driven. Hard.
The Jag will always be a work in progress whether you restore it or not. With that in mind, best do as you thought, get a drip tray, drive and enjoy it until you think you can keep your hands off it for a while. (There are lots of resto / show queen jobs out there, no need to join the parade unless that's your thing.) Then do as little as is sensible to keep it in good nick. As you point out the parts support is amazing and I can't think of any part that is truly unobtainable. Not bad for a 60+ year old design. Pity my 60+ "human body" design isn't as easily restored 🤣
When you get to 70, you will look back at 60 and say "Damn, I was in good shape back then". My advice young man...buy a good PPO Medicare advantage plan, the 'free' HMO plans suck when you are hospitalized.
The Jag and the Targa are the reasons I love this channel. Non-perfect examples that just put a smile on your face. Tyler, you are an inspiration. And if I had the money, time, and space there is no doubt I would be doing the same things (all be it, maybe I'd be avoiding a lot of the GM stuff you buy personally). But what I really can't wait to see, is the 911 SC.
Non perfect but running and driving examples. CLASSIC reason this channel is the best! Pebble Beach my a** , you do you and drive what makes you smile!
The E-Type is a rolling piece of art! In my opinion it deserves a full restoration. Plus, if you get someone local who can do it it will be more content for us for the next year or two or three at least!
If it were me, I'd just put a drip pan under it when I parked it. The oil leak isn't horrible, just refill it before driving it. But I would fix the other lesser problems, like the rust, the interior, etc. Not to concours spec (unless you want it pristine and take it on tours), but respectable and driveable. If it's too perfect, as you said, you won't want to risk driving it around, and that'd be a shame. But wow, what a beaut!
agree- that's just how old cars were although the Jag is borderline excessive. Modern cars are so well sealed up we now have very little tolerance for even a tiny drip coming out of them.
If you can get your money back on the Jag by going full resto style - you should! You are saving it from the eventual trash pile, which is priceless too. I'd like to watch it done.
I'm British and nearing retirement age. In the 60s, when I was a kid, my two dream cars were a James Bond DB5 with full spy spec and a Jaguar E type. I remember my father, who was an engineer and car enthusiast, always maintaining that the E-Type was like a Marilyn Monroe, or a Sophia Loren, a Michelangelo and DaVinci rolled into one. A thing of beauty, art and engineering, but like any woman or artist, sometimes temperamental and unrealible. Of course, I still desired JB's DB5, I imagined settling lots of scores at school with the machine guns and driving my crush home in it, but eh, we can all dream. What I'm trying to say in a long-winded way Hoovie, is restore it and keep it. You and that car deserve each other and belong together.
You didn’t ask but I too like Aston Martins and Jaguars and the E type was my favorite as a kid. Now I’d choose a DB, whatever DB. The E type has strong shapes to my taste. It’s still awesome, of course, but because I’m not, I’d choose the DB because it’s a bit more discreet but still very cool. One can dream, right?
the best thing about the SC is that you can enjoy it and not worry about it. it runs flawlessly and the paint isn’t perfect. the best type of daily driver
PLEASE restore it. that would definitely pay off for you. I mean. I cant soeak for all of the internet but i can tell you it would definitely be a series id be all over. Ive watched every one of your videos tbh and I’ve loved every single one. DO IT TYLER! DO ITTTTT!
Those 'rust spots' will be the tip of the iceberg - once you can see holes in a panel like that, you really need to replace the whole panel - AND there will almost certainly be frame rust too. It'll cost tens of thousands to properly restore this car - anything less and it'll just keep deteriorating. It's worth doing though, IMO.
Sir, we can't thank you enough for bringing this kind of car back to life, we dreamed of it and it remains cool in all our memories, if it's possible and if you had the opportunity to be able to do it, it's unique and beautiful
Jag XKR bonnet has a service position. Unpop the struts and lift to vertical. Then line up the hinges and see the hole to plug with a bolt and wing nut
The Targa turned out great! I had an air cooled ‘82 Outlaw that I converted to PMOs and sometimes I regret selling it but it just didn’t make sense for Tampa. Drive it like you stole it!
I totally understand just wanting to enjoy the car the way it is, but I will say when I was at the Peterson Auto Museum there was a perfect E type on display and it truly a work of art. I say enjoy it for a while driving it around and maybe restore it in about 2 years or so. Keep up the good work.
As my father used to always say to me 'There are things in life that are more fun to want than to have.' I think the XKE falls into that category. I wanted a Norton Commando since I was 12. I got one in my 30s. Did a total restoration on it, won a few shows and sent it down the road. It needed constant attention, cannot help but think the Jag will always need something.
And don't forget the old saying "There are things you can buy and get views on TH-cam and make big bucks with that make no sense for normal people to buy". I think Einstein said that.
Tyler ive been a subscriber for a long time and even though youll never get your money back from the targa that concept is what your channel was based on, bringing hoopties back from the dead to live another life, to enjoy until it went on to the next person. and so this content with the jag, with the targa is exactly the content i love!
You’ve got some amazing connections in the industry. It would be an interesting exercise to watch you navigate a restoration. I am on my second year of a 1973 Firebird restoration and I’ve learned a lot. Participating in managing the project more than I had anticipated, however. the estimate was $60,000 and I believe we are approaching six figures at this point. However, I have committed to modern drivetrain suspension all without losing the charm. I hope. Great channel. Found you on the TH-cam’s by accident.🎉
It has always been my dream to do the same to a 79-81 T-top T/A I could only imagine that kinda driving experience. I had a 72 Camero that ran & looked great but had a rusted out broken frame that I sold for next to nothing at $400 in 1994 because of a grey 79 T-top T/A with a 403 olds engine I fell in love with. I found by accident sitting at an impound yard belonging to the owner of the impound yard that had some brake & timing issues the owner couldn't figure and I couldn't say no at $700. I'll never forget the moment I had the brakes and timing dialed in and felt that power it's hands down the funnest car I've ever owned. That 403 and posi rear end was constantly lighting those tires up with ease at least untill a legally blind guy wearing coke bottle glasses t-boned me as he was coming out of a side street.😭😭
Hoovie as you will see is an accident, one of my favorites remains him doing a burnout in a green MB wagon and all the lights came on thousands later he sells it.
I have a 69 E type with a 64 triple carb head conversion and restoration paid for by me a few years back. My English dad bought it when I was 16 and I am now 66 , so we have owned it for over 50 years! It is beautiful and a unique experience to drive. I also use rosin paper under a full length drip pan to catch the drips.
Hoovie, at a minimum, I would do the retrofit on the rear main seal. Put a modern one in and make sure it seals up. What you don't want happening, is running low on oil in that motor. If that happens, a rebuild is going to be much more expensive, if even possible with lack of availability of parts.
@@jeremystevenson9503 I meant parts being not really available here in the states. He said some parts already sat in customs for a good period of time.
to change the rear main seal to a modern style would require basically a full engine rebuild as the entire block needs to be stripped down to be machined for the new seals
The 2 piece rope seal is very effective and long lasting if installed properly, to the point that retrofitting a lip seal is really pointless. But the rope seal must be bed in properly using a special sizing tool from Jaguar. That's where they went wrong. I've dealt with this on Jaguar engines several times.
Love that you saved the 911 Hoovie, the targa is so much nicer than the cut job that was done to it before! E type .... it's arguably the ultimate Jaaaaaaag, enjoy it for now, but if any car would be deserving of a restoration, surely its an E type?
its a dream car for me , i see fully restored cars going around 225 to 250 and they'll keep going up . Definitely worth it and would love to watch the progress
But back to the owner, Tyler you are living the dream of every kid from my generation. When this thing came out it was...how to put it, well, a dream. Today it still is some, what? 56 years later. FIFTY-SIX YEARS? That's impossible. Now I really do feel old! I was 18 years old in 1966. I distinctly remember standing in the Jaguar dealer's showroom one day in Dallas (no Jaguar dealer in Midland) and asking my Dad to buy it for me. This was probably 1964 or 65. He actually paused for a few moments, before at last saying "no". Now that I am myself even older than my Dad was then, I know exactly what he was thinking during that pause. I imagine at the top of the list of things he was seeing in his mind's eye was me wrecking it and killing myself. Anyhoo, memories. They really come back so easily now. I still wish I had an E-type, or even the Stingray of the same era. You have both. So you get to really live my dream. And I actually think you really DO understand that. Taking it and making a unique TH-cam channel of it is really genius.
But David the car is in basically pristine condition outside now and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
Hoovie! The Jag is working perfectly! It is leaking and it was never meant to drive with the top up. You can park it with the top up but please don't drive it with the top up!! Great video as usual, thank you.
Have you considered using a straight weight oil in it until the rope seal seals? I might be mistaken but multi grade oils came onto the market after the car was built which might be the cause of the leak. Wizard might have an opinion.
Buick used rope rear main seals (with great success!) until corporate engines took over. I just used a dab of silicone between the ropes. I suspect an insufficient slinger design may be the culprit.
Failed repair, and a pity it's a garage queen you cannot take anywhere nice until it's fixed. It's rather difficult to imagine David/Car Wizard went along with cheaping out on the seal replacement once he had the engine completely out. Is the seal mating surface on the crank deeply scored? Was sleeving it his recommendation and did you balk?
Hoovie, this would make for an AWESOME video series. How it may even be enough to pay for the restoration. Absolutely do full restoration, and please video every step along the way. Kind of like the guys did at robby laytons shop with Ed’s golden nugget. I would love to watch that
Do it!!!! and drive it, you keep it for 50 yrs and then one of your adult by then kiddos can take over and keep driving and loving it Tyler. Plus, youtoobs are paying for the resto, and you have always wanted to do one, can't wait for the updates and the final result. Love the restoration vids that harry does and imagine yours the same w out the brit accent...
I had a 1967 E-Type FHC Series 1.5 and had none of the "normal" issues that seem to plague other Jags. No overheating, no electrical problems, very little failure to contain. In the 9 years I had it I did replace the clutch (engine out) and replaced the prop shaft u-joints (rear subframe out). I loved that car and wish I still had it.
There really is no problem with the rope seal design and the retrofit upgrade has mixed reviews. My advice would be to ship the engine and transmission to an XKE specialist and have them sort it. I did the same repair on an E-Type a couple of years ago and it really isnt difficult if done with care and appreciation for the engineering.
But Mark the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@@fgb3126 Did you watch the video? He said there is lots that could be done like paint work as rust showing and the roof needs replacing. So a full restoration would make a nice car into a show car which would be what that car deserves. The leaks can be sorted whilst the engine is out for the restoration. Then all will be good and he will have a perfect dream car that will be worth a loads and something to be very proud of.
Love the Targa and it’s so good that it was rescued from certain death. I would maybe do a light cosmetic refresh on the jag but the beauty of owning cars like that is the freedom to drive and enjoy them and you seem to really enjoy driving the e-type. That joy would disappear with a full resto. Keep up the good work, been following since the first Apollo 911 vids!
The garage I used to work at specialised in Jaguar cars and the only way that we found to stop the rear main from leaking was to machine the crankshaft and it's journals/bearings to modern close tolerances, this stopped the crank from 'floating around in the block and gave the rope seal it's best chance to seal as intended and as a bonus, it also improved the oil pressure. It seems that Jaguars came from the factory with excessive bearing clearance, probably because of the treacle they used to call oil in the '50's/60's.
Drive and enjoy the Jag as is. Take care of it, and you can always do a resto down the road. Although it would be cool to do a series on a complete restoration.
I'm helping a friend fix many of these issues on a 67 E type roadster right now. He tore down the engine and is fitting a new rear seal design and much more, in a standard 2 car garage.
It'd be a fun change of speed to follow along with a proper restoration on this channel. Hope you end up doing one eventually, a Jag like that would seem a good opportunity.
Imo these old jags are among the most beautiful cars ever made. Had an xj6 series II with the 4.2. at 100 mph the loudest thing in the car was the clock ticking in the dash. Lovely car
I think if you did a page from Tavarish's builds on following up the restoration process with the interior, the exterior, the engine and even the milling process that you're probably going to get more views.I know your schedule is pretty busy, but if you did a hand off to either the shops for exposure or a camera man helper? I feel you should do it right. Take care Tyler and thanks for sharing your journey with us. 😎👍
One of the most iconic British cars of all time. Definitely full restoration would be a good project I'm sure many people will enjoy and if you're going to do some you may as well do all with such a iconic car.
But Kelly! the car is in basically pristine condition outside and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@fgb3126 you didn't listen to his list of problems beyond the leaks clearly. To fix the leaks needs the engine out, and to fix it with a more modern solution would require a rebuild, at which point you may as well restore the carbs and other engine parts. Then there is the poor roof and rust coming through on the arches and not the original paint, plus the interior is not original either.
Mr Hoovie, I have the solution. No big problem. Just re-do the rope seal. Dont give up on it. I know it is not what you want to do at the moment, but the engine only takes a day to remove and a day or two to put back again, so the car will be quite usable in a week or so. Mr Wizard will help you out a bit with the price too I am sure. It will require hardly any parts, just a few gaskets. These cars are different in the way they come apart, but they do come apart quickly and Mr Wizard now knows how to do it. These cars use a rope seal, as did millions of cars back then, there is nothing wrong with it from a design point of view. They might leak the odd drip but not much, if anything, if the seal is correctly sized when fitted. For your car to be leaking as it is, the new seal has not been sized correctly, or the crank has a small ridge that can be addressed then the sump is off. There is no design fault in the seal. I have rebuilt 6 XK engines in the last 3 years, using the rope seal and also the modern seal conversion. The modern seal conversion is OK but that can leak too. It is also quite expensive. A correctly fitted rope seal is fine, I am sure that is where your problem lies. So run the car back to the wizards and persuade him to do it again. Make sure the new seal is fitted correctly. Then you will have your car back and all should be fine for a few years before you take the plunge with the big restoration. Just two other things to check. Make sure the sump has not been overfilled. Drop the oil and check. Halfway up the dipstick is enough. Sometimes the wrong dipstick is fitted, check it has an "E" stamped on the bottom of it. Make sure the oil system is not being pressurized with blow by. The breather should be plugged back into the carbs and the bauze should be clear on the cylinder head.
Tyler it's such a cool car getting the car was a great thing. Tyler I think you got a great deal for what you had done. At this point I wouldn't going any farther, I keep driving car as is.
I say keep it as a driver. Do the seals on the convertable top, maybe do the rear main, but not worry as much about the paint or interior until you get ready to sell it.
Series III XJ6 owner for nearly 15 years as a mostly daily driver. Never had a car that drove better, the driving experience especially on rolling 2 lane roads was sublime. Same engine and rear suspension as your E-type. It would however just spontaneously leak sometimes large quantities of coolant/oil/trans fluid/brake fluid take your pick. I wasn't especially expensive to maintain but it by design the it required continuos maintenance. Wish I could have kept it. Good luck with the HVAC system.
Would love to see a restoration series, something like Harry's Garage has done here in the UK with his Espada etc, however I understand it may not pull in the viewing figures. Sometimes best to listen to the heart rather than the finances however.
I agree. Seeing Harry's Espada, Jag XJ coupe and Lancia all restored was fascinating. Sadly, looking at Harry's summary video, restoration videos don't get the views. I must confess, I don't understand why this is.
Hell no, this isn't the channel for that and Tyler will be forced to sell most of his other cars to support the project, as more and more things get added along the way.
Agree - no need to go full restore - turn it into a super nice driver. Engine is going to need to be rebuilt at some point if Hoovie keeps it (and it sounds like he will) so why not do the full engine now (convert to better main seal) so you can enjoy it with as few mechanical snafus are possible. Pricey hooptie - but so is that Porsche.... :)
@@jimbosc Yes it's hard to see where you can go wrong by sorting the engine on a car like that, if you have the money that is!!! Definitely a good investment for a future sale, and I guess he won't put many miles on it anyway. Getting rid of that oil leak will probably help out the motorcyclists as well. :)
I have a 67 E convertible and had it totally restored 7 years ago. If you can afford the restoration go for it, you will enjoy the car more and save it for another generation. Love the show by the way all the best from England.
Do it Tyler. This is a slice of automotive perfection, and there are already too many others gone forever. With your contacts and your passion, this could become one of the best in the USA.
Tyler why not do something in the middle? do a mechanical rebuild make her perfect mechanically and let her be patina'd so you can enjoy it without fear of driving it.
That Targa is just too cool. I am glad you saved it. Leonard is also just too cool. Being from Fayetteville, I will have to hop over to Eureka and see if he is running around. His collection is amazing. With the Jag, just retro fit the main seal and forget about it. Maybe do the seals on the top and fix the window, then call it a day. If you can fix the rust go for it, but it has such a nice petina even if it is from the 80's.
I owned an old 944 for a number of years. I kept it mechanically sorted and enjoyed the heck out of driving it. Now I have an old 911 with a TON of miles. I plan to do the same with it. No cosmetic work. Just keeping it roadworthy. I recommend you do the same with both the Jag and the 911. Enjoy!
If you've always wanted to do it, and you plan on keeping it forever, go for the full resto. The peace of mind alone is worth it. Plus, if push comes to shove, like you said, you could easily recoup the money in a sale. I'd love to see the Jag perfect. It's one of my halo cars.
But CAAARL the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
"But Seriously" nailed it. This is a keeper. I hope the recent flurry of sales has not affected this jewel! Keep it, use it,drive it. ..wind noise? C'mon !! Top Down...now that's wind noise :)
Hoovie you're killing me 😂 just drive your cars if they work man. And get Wizard to put some better oil in the E Type while you're at it because 10w30 is way too thin for what's basically a vintage racing engine and it's probably gonna spin a bearing.
Yes it beats me why Americans are obsessed with piss-thin oil that they change every 3000 miles. It needs Vintage 20/50 oil with all the old addives and minerals. Jaguar built hundreds of thousands of XK engines over a long period and they didn't all dump oil and get criticised.
@@johnmoruzzi7236 unfortunately they do at least have a constant mist of oil around them, I do agree 10w30 is the wrong oil and the comment about checking the breathers was spot on
@@fgb3126 Depends on how you interpret the word pristine. I meant it as being perfect, close to or better than new, and then the answer to your question is "all of it". Even when using the other meaning of the word it is far from pristine. Repainted, not original interior...
If you look at old Photos from the Jaguar Factory in Coventry, you'll notice that the Site, where they put the new Cars for picking up, was covered with Oilspots. They were even leaking when Factorynew.
Dear Hoovie After having owned 5 Jags, the issue is not the car. it's who you take it to. Unless the mechanic grew up with Jaguars, they just won't understand how it works and what it needs. If you find one such person, they are reliable and work dependably. If there is no such person where you live, then send it to the UK to get it restored or import the Jag mechanic from the UK and bring him there on a holiday. You have first class people working for you. It is just one of those things. Can't explain it but that has been my experience.
Mr Hoovie, I too own a classic Jaguar. A 1967 420 Saloon. I spent hundreds of thousands having a frame off restoration. And yet it still leaks fluids. Jaguars are large wild cats, therefore they must mark their territory. Get used to it.
Sounds like a terrible way to waste hundreds of thousands
You know what they say
A jag that doesn't leak is one without fluids
@@chris-gh4cd not when your looking outside and see that beautiful jaguar sitting their..
@@departedgardens9262 leaking all over your garage.. sounds so cool tbh
@@chris-gh4cd it's something you won't get until you own one. I got an S Type, and while it's not the most beautiful Jag ever made, it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
Hoovie, on the E-type 20w-50 oil. Fill to middle between marks on dipstick. Check oil breather screen on front of head to see that it’s clean, and the breather tube to the air cleaner must be internally clean, or oil will be blown out of the crank seals. Take a look at the oil feed line at the back of the head; these crack at the joints after 50 years and the leak looks just like a rear main seal leak. Make sure all six copper seal rings are visible on this oil line. (From a long -time E-type hooptie owner. )
It is the coolest thing when people know these details in the comments.
WOW! Great experience on Jags!!!
I wonder if he'll even read the comments
Why does this not have twice the likes of an incorrectly written joke?
Great info
You obviously know this model very well. I would have done the modern rear seal personally instead of the more traditional rope one though!
That is definitely a car you should do a full restoration on. That project would generate a ton of content that I would thoroughly enjoy watching. What a beautiful auto!
I agree. Not necessarily to Pebble Beach level, keep it usable...
I tried to warn you and the wizard about that rope seal. You need Jaguar tool JD-38 to properly size the seal and it's a crankshaft out job. The rope seal is actually very effective when installed properly and can last as long as a lip seal. Take it from someone who has restored several Jaguars. There are no shortcuts with these cars.
Sounds convincing to me. Personally I think its going to leak again anyway, am I wrong. Its just the nature of the beast. They mark their territory!
If only someone told Jaguar that at the factory
@@Grom-rl8bm 🤣
I almost bought a Buick Grand National that had a rear main seal leak and the guy said "it just needs a new rope seal, no big deal..." They are a big deal.
I forgot one crucial step- you MUST let the rope seal soak in oil overnight before installation and bedding in/sizing.
If it isn't leaking it empty.
It’s British after all.
This is the comment I was looking for
Also, that rust ain't "just starting" - once you can see a hole like that, it's well underway - once they start stripping the paint off that panel, it's going to look like swiss cheese.
@@62jape Harley Davidson's are known for the same joke. ;)
As an MG owner, I came here to say this, but you beat me to it
Hoovie, I've owned about a dozen classic Jags over the years. Most, but not all, leaked oil from the rear main. As you say, the rope seals are just antiquated,-old-school technology and installing them is as much art as science. I would recommend buying an oil-drip pan, as you suggested, and driving and enjoying the car for now. You can always restore it later when you get the urge to make it perfect.
The problem is not limted to his garage, that is only the dripping after he drives it. It will also drip while driving an that is an environmental issue as well as the danger of someone slipping (i.e. bikers)
@@Heidelaffe Get real. The sort of minor oil leak he has now isn't an environmental issue or a danger to anyone.
@@boilerbonz Half a liter of oil on the floor after you park anywhere for a while is not an environmental issue or a danger to anyone?
@@Heidelaffe Environmental issue??? BWAHAHAHAAAA Go visit India and watch how engines and ships are repaired and dismantled then talk to Americans about "environmental" disasters! What a ridiculous thing to say about small drips,
Hoovie, that is the best vehicle you have ever owned. It does deserve a complete restoration. It has lasting charm and style that has not been equaled. It is simply a timeless piece of art, give it what it deserves. Many cars will come a go, this is one you should take seriously and keep for the long haul.
the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@@fgb3126 Pristine except the rust forming underneath. I've been doing auto body repair since 1999 and rust doesn't just stop on it's own. If there are holes from rust then it is spread a lot farther than that. It is similar to cancer in that way. A car is much more than just the drivetrain and a drivetrain is nothing without a good chassis to propel. It's like having an expensive home theater system in a shack that's falling apart.
@@fgb3126 Nah not even close to pristine - that scuttle panel alone has a hole right through it - guarantee once you take a angle grinder to it, it'll look like swiss cheese. There will be a LOT of hidden rust in this, probably a lot of filler too, it's going to need a pile of new metal - but it's probably still worth doing.
@@jonathonsanders2508 Agree, once they start stripping the paint off this it's going to reveal all kinds of horrors. Bet it's got a pile of filler in it too. Still would be worth doing though.
@@Beer_Dad1975 I agree. People that have done this kind of work can easily spot the issues and challenges of doing it right. No telling what you may find beneath the paint but the car would totally be worth the attention.
Do the best repair for the leak, maybe a carb refresh, repair the rust and that's it. Enjoy it for a while and then you can decide if you like it to the point where you want a full restoration or if you leave it as is.
This should be at the top. Do the bare minimum to preserve and enjoy the Jag.
He already says to fix some of issues engine would have to go out anyways might as well get it all done or it's more money and time to take engine out another time just to get more parts fixed when yiu can do it all at once
@@treyhale8063 You need to draw the line somewhere, and the mistake was to save a little money in a big job, you can't save money in a big job, you need to do it properly or not do it at all. If you know that a better solution exists, do it.
It will leak forever. Even if it were "fully restored." That is the nature of it.
Cool fiesta as your profil Picture! : D
Hoovie is doing a great service when he shares how much it costs to properly maintain many of his great classic cars. It helps educate the viewers who are thinking of taking the plunge into buying a classic. What a beautiful Jaguar.
I've been working aircraft both military and civilian since 1983. The military aircraft I first worked on used turbojet engines and we serviced all four engines with one case of oil after a flight. Many of the older mechanics I worked with had experience with radial recip engines and they serviced them with a 55 gallon drum, so...Now I work on modern turbofans, but when I started working on the leaking Rolls Royce engines, I was taught any leak you can jump over is ok.
My cousin is a chinook CH47 mechanic and he always said if there ain't oil under it, there aint oil in it
Maybe not a concours restoration, but definitely a restoration. I think that by far, this is the sexiest and most visually stunning vehicle in your fleet, and getting to see more videos on the progress of repainting, an engine rebuild, and interior reupholstering would be a very interesting series to develop, especially given the already very great condition of the vehicle.
Concours would be better.
@@alanblanes2876 then you will never drive it. I would rather a really good usable condition car. Then I could drive it mid to days. Concourse cars are museum pieces. They cars were made to be driven. Hard.
The Jag will always be a work in progress whether you restore it or not. With that in mind, best do as you thought, get a drip tray, drive and enjoy it until you think you can keep your hands off it for a while. (There are lots of resto / show queen jobs out there, no need to join the parade unless that's your thing.) Then do as little as is sensible to keep it in good nick. As you point out the parts support is amazing and I can't think of any part that is truly unobtainable. Not bad for a 60+ year old design. Pity my 60+ "human body" design isn't as easily restored 🤣
When you get to 70, you will look back at 60 and say "Damn, I was in good shape back then".
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The Jag and the Targa are the reasons I love this channel. Non-perfect examples that just put a smile on your face. Tyler, you are an inspiration. And if I had the money, time, and space there is no doubt I would be doing the same things (all be it, maybe I'd be avoiding a lot of the GM stuff you buy personally). But what I really can't wait to see, is the 911 SC.
Exactly. If he wants stuff that breaks (for more content) he should avoid the gms
Non perfect but running and driving examples. CLASSIC reason this channel is the best! Pebble Beach my a** , you do you and drive what makes you smile!
So you enjoy and embrace idiocy, stupidity and the like...'Cuz that is all this guy does...
The E-Type is a rolling piece of art! In my opinion it deserves a full restoration. Plus, if you get someone local who can do it it will be more content for us for the next year or two or three at least!
I second that. It would be great to have a radically upgraded restoration with all modern acoutraments.
If it were me, I'd just put a drip pan under it when I parked it. The oil leak isn't horrible, just refill it before driving it. But I would fix the other lesser problems, like the rust, the interior, etc. Not to concours spec (unless you want it pristine and take it on tours), but respectable and driveable. If it's too perfect, as you said, you won't want to risk driving it around, and that'd be a shame. But wow, what a beaut!
🏁Fixing a leak on a vintage car is like playing a game of Wac-A-Mole it never ends 😂
LLol Had to look up what that game was 😂😂😂😂 true
@@justinfarmer6635 yeah it’s never ending fix one another leak springs 🆙
WAC -A -M🕳LE 🤓🤪
Old cars are just endless money pits 😂
That's why you always leave 1 leak, that way another doesn't show up lol.
Leaking oil in an old car is like a design feature, as rust prevention. You can fix one source of leak, to then discover another one.
more and more rationalizations 👎
Sorta like a Bentley?
agree- that's just how old cars were although the Jag is borderline excessive. Modern cars are so well sealed up we now have very little tolerance for even a tiny drip coming out of them.
@@jedwin4816 some times it's just better to don't change some seals in old cars, if they aren't leaking yet.
Ha!
If you can get your money back on the Jag by going full resto style - you should! You are saving it from the eventual trash pile, which is priceless too. I'd like to watch it done.
The “F” my face at 3:43 was great. 😆😆😆
Hope you’re Ok.
Yeah, hoovie left the old f bomb in! I feel like he's quite good at getting those in editing
I'm British and nearing retirement age. In the 60s, when I was a kid, my two dream cars were a James Bond DB5 with full spy spec and a Jaguar E type. I remember my father, who was an engineer and car enthusiast, always maintaining that the E-Type was like a Marilyn Monroe, or a Sophia Loren, a Michelangelo and DaVinci rolled into one. A thing of beauty, art and engineering, but like any woman or artist, sometimes temperamental and unrealible.
Of course, I still desired JB's DB5, I imagined settling lots of scores at school with the machine guns and driving my crush home in it, but eh, we can all dream.
What I'm trying to say in a long-winded way Hoovie, is restore it and keep it. You and that car deserve each other and belong together.
You didn’t ask but I too like Aston Martins and Jaguars and the E type was my favorite as a kid. Now I’d choose a DB, whatever DB. The E type has strong shapes to my taste. It’s still awesome, of course, but because I’m not, I’d choose the DB because it’s a bit more discreet but still very cool. One can dream, right?
the best thing about the SC is that you can enjoy it and not worry about it. it runs flawlessly and the paint isn’t perfect. the best type of daily driver
I'd say rebuild the engine top to bottom then enjoy it, then if you really fall in love with it, then do the restoration.
As one of the people who begged for the saving of this Porsche, I’m elated. Excited to see more of the 911 in action. Great work!
PLEASE restore it. that would definitely pay off for you. I mean. I cant soeak for all of the internet but i can tell you it would definitely be a series id be all over. Ive watched every one of your videos tbh and I’ve loved every single one. DO IT TYLER! DO ITTTTT!
I'd fix the rust spots at the very least but it would be awesome to watch some progression on a partial restoration
Those 'rust spots' will be the tip of the iceberg - once you can see holes in a panel like that, you really need to replace the whole panel - AND there will almost certainly be frame rust too. It'll cost tens of thousands to properly restore this car - anything less and it'll just keep deteriorating. It's worth doing though, IMO.
Sir, we can't thank you enough for bringing this kind of car back to life, we dreamed of it and it remains cool in all our memories, if it's possible and if you had the opportunity to be able to do it, it's unique and beautiful
Do it! Do it! A full concourse restoration series would be fun to watch!
If any car deserves it, it's this one!
Jag XKR bonnet has a service position. Unpop the struts and lift to vertical. Then line up the hinges and see the hole to plug with a bolt and wing nut
Weird. Jags are usually right up there with Toyota and Honda when it comes to long term reliability. Who knew.
Where you get that information from
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ROFL .... hope that was a sarcastic remark.
The Targa turned out great! I had an air cooled ‘82 Outlaw that I converted to PMOs and sometimes I regret selling it but it just didn’t make sense for Tampa. Drive it like you stole it!
I totally understand just wanting to enjoy the car the way it is, but I will say when I was at the Peterson Auto Museum there was a perfect E type on display and it truly a work of art. I say enjoy it for a while driving it around and maybe restore it in about 2 years or so. Keep up the good work.
As my father used to always say to me 'There are things in life that are more fun to want than to have.' I think the XKE falls into that category. I wanted a Norton Commando since I was 12. I got one in my 30s. Did a total restoration on it, won a few shows and sent it down the road. It needed constant attention, cannot help but think the Jag will always need something.
And don't forget the old saying "There are things you can buy and get views on TH-cam and make big bucks with that make no sense for normal people to buy". I think Einstein said that.
I still own both of my Commandos….they do require a bunch of attention.
Tyler ive been a subscriber for a long time and even though youll never get your money back from the targa that concept is what your channel was based on, bringing hoopties back from the dead to live another life, to enjoy until it went on to the next person. and so this content with the jag, with the targa is exactly the content i love!
There are very few cars I would consider doing a crazy restoration on, but an E-Type must be on that list for sure.
You’ve got some amazing connections in the industry. It would be an interesting exercise to watch you navigate a restoration. I am on my second year of a 1973 Firebird restoration and I’ve learned a lot. Participating in managing the project more than I had anticipated, however. the estimate was $60,000 and I believe we are approaching six figures at this point. However, I have committed to modern drivetrain suspension all without losing the charm. I hope. Great channel. Found you on the TH-cam’s by accident.🎉
It has always been my dream to do the same to a 79-81 T-top T/A I could only imagine that kinda driving experience.
I had a 72 Camero that ran & looked great but had a rusted out broken frame that I sold for next to nothing at $400 in 1994 because of a grey 79 T-top T/A with a 403 olds engine I fell in love with. I found by accident sitting at an impound yard belonging to the owner of the impound yard that had some brake & timing issues the owner couldn't figure and I couldn't say no at $700.
I'll never forget the moment I had the brakes and timing dialed in and felt that power it's hands down the funnest car I've ever owned. That 403 and posi rear end was constantly lighting those tires up with ease at least untill a legally blind guy wearing coke bottle glasses t-boned me as he was coming out of a side street.😭😭
Hoovie as you will see is an accident, one of my favorites remains him doing a burnout in a green MB wagon and all the lights came on thousands later he sells it.
With parts support, do it.
They say that for a restoration project, double the estimated cost and triple the time to complete it.
@@williamosgood3565 Wow! Another reason I don’t have one or two.
I have a 69 E type with a 64 triple carb head conversion and restoration paid for by me a few years back. My English dad bought it when I was 16 and I am now 66 , so we have owned it for over 50 years! It is beautiful and a unique experience to drive. I also use rosin paper under a full length drip pan to catch the drips.
It deserves to be given all it needs, such a beautiful car.
that's basically what Tyler did Calvin
It's an E-Type! Do what you gotta do
Hoovie, at a minimum, I would do the retrofit on the rear main seal. Put a modern one in and make sure it seals up. What you don't want happening, is running low on oil in that motor. If that happens, a rebuild is going to be much more expensive, if even possible with lack of availability of parts.
No lack of availability of parts for that engine, but I agree with you regarding the oil seal retrofit.
@@jeremystevenson9503 I meant parts being not really available here in the states. He said some parts already sat in customs for a good period of time.
to change the rear main seal to a modern style would require basically a full engine rebuild as the entire block needs to be stripped down to be machined for the new seals
The 2 piece rope seal is very effective and long lasting if installed properly, to the point that retrofitting a lip seal is really pointless. But the rope seal must be bed in properly using a special sizing tool from Jaguar. That's where they went wrong. I've dealt with this on Jaguar engines several times.
I say just put on lots of Flex Seal .... Nice and thick .... Save about $2K. What could go wrong ..? lol
Love that you saved the 911 Hoovie, the targa is so much nicer than the cut job that was done to it before!
E type .... it's arguably the ultimate Jaaaaaaag, enjoy it for now, but if any car would be deserving of a restoration, surely its an E type?
Go all the way! You said yourself you’d keep it for a lifetime if you did so, and we can tell how much you love this car.
its a dream car for me , i see fully restored cars going around 225 to 250 and they'll keep going up . Definitely worth it and would love to watch the progress
Put a little thicker oil in, use a drip tray, and drive/enjoy it. Leaks on a '60's Jaguar seem like "situation normal"
hello 👋 👋 there Good morning how are you feeling today?hope all is good?GOD BLESS YOU!!!
But back to the owner, Tyler you are living the dream of every kid from my generation. When this thing came out it was...how to put it, well, a dream. Today it still is some, what? 56 years later. FIFTY-SIX YEARS? That's impossible. Now I really do feel old! I was 18 years old in 1966.
I distinctly remember standing in the Jaguar dealer's showroom one day in Dallas (no Jaguar dealer in Midland) and asking my Dad to buy it for me. This was probably 1964 or 65. He actually paused for a few moments, before at last saying "no". Now that I am myself even older than my Dad was then, I know exactly what he was thinking during that pause. I imagine at the top of the list of things he was seeing in his mind's eye was me wrecking it and killing myself.
Anyhoo, memories. They really come back so easily now. I still wish I had an E-type, or even the Stingray of the same era. You have both. So you get to really live my dream. And I actually think you really DO understand that. Taking it and making a unique TH-cam channel of it is really genius.
Your twin brother must have lived down the street from me in the early 80's. He always had a driveway full of xke's.
Go for the full restoration! You can afford it and it would make a cool series.
Better yet, ship it to Tavarish and have him do the restoration.
@@mitchellfenton3982 Tavarish doesn't like old cars.
@@mitchellfenton3982 I like Tavarish, but I don't think he has this kind of expertise. It's not really up his street.
But David the car is in basically pristine condition outside now and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
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He's a hack. He would just wash it with his boobs.
Hoovie! The Jag is working perfectly! It is leaking and it was never meant to drive with the top up. You can park it with the top up but please don't drive it with the top up!! Great video as usual, thank you.
Have you considered using a straight weight oil in it until the rope seal seals? I might be mistaken but multi grade oils came onto the market after the car was built which might be the cause of the leak. Wizard might have an opinion.
Buick used rope rear main seals (with great success!) until corporate engines took over. I just used a dab of silicone between the ropes. I suspect an insufficient slinger design may be the culprit.
Good point michael!
how about teflon packing from the marine world of prop shaft seals?
Failed repair, and a pity it's a garage queen you cannot take anywhere nice until it's fixed. It's rather difficult to imagine David/Car Wizard went along with cheaping out on the seal replacement once he had the engine completely out. Is the seal mating surface on the crank deeply scored? Was sleeving it his recommendation and did you balk?
Hoovie, this would make for an AWESOME video series. How it may even be enough to pay for the restoration. Absolutely do full restoration, and please video every step along the way. Kind of like the guys did at robby laytons shop with Ed’s golden nugget. I would love to watch that
Hell… maybe have it be a mash up between you and Robby Layton. 🤷♂️
Do it!!!! and drive it, you keep it for 50 yrs and then one of your adult by then kiddos can take over and keep driving and loving it Tyler. Plus, youtoobs are paying for the resto, and you have always wanted to do one, can't wait for the updates and the final result. Love the restoration vids that harry does and imagine yours the same w out the brit accent...
I had a 1967 E-Type FHC Series 1.5 and had none of the "normal" issues that seem to plague other Jags. No overheating, no electrical problems, very little failure to contain. In the 9 years I had it I did replace the clutch (engine out) and replaced the prop shaft u-joints (rear subframe out). I loved that car and wish I still had it.
you should have kept it but I know how these things go
My dad had an E-type like this, he took it into a workshop and had them work on it until it had the issues
I feel the same way about my now-departed '67 Jaguar 3.8 Mark 2. And today, I have the available garage space in which it could have lived forever.
There really is no problem with the rope seal design and the retrofit upgrade has mixed reviews. My advice would be to ship the engine and transmission to an XKE specialist and have them sort it. I did the same repair on an E-Type a couple of years ago and it really isnt difficult if done with care and appreciation for the engineering.
That car deserves a full restoration. I think they are one of the best looking car's ever made.
But Mark the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@@fgb3126 Did you watch the video? He said there is lots that could be done like paint work as rust showing and the roof needs replacing. So a full restoration would make a nice car into a show car which would be what that car deserves. The leaks can be sorted whilst the engine is out for the restoration. Then all will be good and he will have a perfect dream car that will be worth a loads and something to be very proud of.
Love the Targa and it’s so good that it was rescued from certain death. I would maybe do a light cosmetic refresh on the jag but the beauty of owning cars like that is the freedom to drive and enjoy them and you seem to really enjoy driving the e-type. That joy would disappear with a full resto.
Keep up the good work, been following since the first Apollo 911 vids!
You should absolutely go all-in on that Jag, it's a fine piece of automotive art.
Hovie my man that car is a rolling work of art. Go all in with the restoration.
This is your chance man. Restore it to your entire satisfaction, as the car properly deserves. Thank you for your videos, they’re awesome!
I agree, it deserves that restoration to Hoovies satisfaction
Is that Jaguar blood?
Exactly. Do it. On your death bed are you going to say, "Man, I'm glad I didn't restore that Jag."
The garage I used to work at specialised in Jaguar cars and the only way that we found to stop the rear main from leaking was to machine the crankshaft and it's journals/bearings to modern close tolerances, this stopped the crank from 'floating around in the block and gave the rope seal it's best chance to seal as intended and as a bonus, it also improved the oil pressure. It seems that Jaguars came from the factory with excessive bearing clearance, probably because of the treacle they used to call oil in the '50's/60's.
Drive and enjoy the Jag as is. Take care of it, and you can always do a resto down the road. Although it would be cool to do a series on a complete restoration.
Do the restoration!!! It will be so cool to see the journey
I'm helping a friend fix many of these issues on a 67 E type roadster right now. He tore down the engine and is fitting a new rear seal design and much more, in a standard 2 car garage.
I'm so amazed as to how beautiful that car is! It's worth the time to redo it.
It'd be a fun change of speed to follow along with a proper restoration on this channel. Hope you end up doing one eventually, a Jag like that would seem a good opportunity.
Imo these old jags are among the most beautiful cars ever made. Had an xj6 series II with the 4.2. at 100 mph the loudest thing in the car was the clock ticking in the dash. Lovely car
I think if you did a page from Tavarish's builds on following up the restoration process with the interior, the exterior, the engine and even the milling process that you're probably going to get more views.I know your schedule is pretty busy, but if you did a hand off to either the shops for exposure or a camera man helper? I feel you should do it right. Take care Tyler and thanks for sharing your journey with us. 😎👍
That sounds more appropriate for the Car Wizard’s channel but yeah that would be cool
One of the most iconic British cars of all time. Definitely full restoration would be a good project I'm sure many people will enjoy and if you're going to do some you may as well do all with such a iconic car.
But Kelly! the car is in basically pristine condition outside and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
@@fgb3126 they didn't do an engine overhaul. Just replaced the rear main seal and some gaskets.
@fgb3126 you didn't listen to his list of problems beyond the leaks clearly. To fix the leaks needs the engine out, and to fix it with a more modern solution would require a rebuild, at which point you may as well restore the carbs and other engine parts.
Then there is the poor roof and rust coming through on the arches and not the original paint, plus the interior is not original either.
I love that Targa. Not a penny wasted. Driveable, enjoyable classic that actually looks the cool side of ratty.
Mr Hoovie, I have the solution. No big problem.
Just re-do the rope seal. Dont give up on it. I know it is not what you want to do at the moment, but the engine only takes a day to remove and a day or two to put back again, so the car will be quite usable in a week or so.
Mr Wizard will help you out a bit with the price too I am sure. It will require hardly any parts, just a few gaskets.
These cars are different in the way they come apart, but they do come apart quickly and Mr Wizard now knows how to do it.
These cars use a rope seal, as did millions of cars back then, there is nothing wrong with it from a design point of view.
They might leak the odd drip but not much, if anything, if the seal is correctly sized when fitted.
For your car to be leaking as it is, the new seal has not been sized correctly, or the crank has a small ridge that can be addressed then the sump is off.
There is no design fault in the seal.
I have rebuilt 6 XK engines in the last 3 years, using the rope seal and also the modern seal conversion. The modern seal conversion is OK but that can leak too. It is also quite expensive. A correctly fitted rope seal is fine, I am sure that is where your problem lies.
So run the car back to the wizards and persuade him to do it again. Make sure the new seal is fitted correctly.
Then you will have your car back and all should be fine for a few years before you take the plunge with the big restoration.
Just two other things to check.
Make sure the sump has not been overfilled. Drop the oil and check. Halfway up the dipstick is enough. Sometimes the wrong dipstick is fitted, check it has an "E" stamped on the bottom of it.
Make sure the oil system is not being pressurized with blow by. The breather should be plugged back into the carbs and the bauze should be clear on the cylinder head.
So, if you redo he rope seal, it will still leak. Give it 6 months or so. It is what it is.
Go for the full restoration! That car is definitely worth it, plus a series of videos will help with the restoration bill. An eternal beauty!!! 👌🏻
If it is given a top notch restoration it would be a preserved art piece for all time.
DO IT!!! This car deserves a full blown restoration - and a first for Hoovie, so much interest for the fans - GO FOR IT!!!
Tyler it's such a cool car getting the car was a great thing. Tyler I think you got a great deal for what you had done. At this point I wouldn't going any farther, I keep driving car as is.
I say keep it as a driver. Do the seals on the convertable top, maybe do the rear main, but not worry as much about the paint or interior until you get ready to sell it.
Series III XJ6 owner for nearly 15 years as a mostly daily driver. Never had a car that drove better, the driving experience especially on rolling 2 lane roads was sublime. Same engine and rear suspension as your E-type. It would however just spontaneously leak sometimes large quantities of coolant/oil/trans fluid/brake fluid take your pick. I wasn't especially expensive to maintain but it by design the it required continuos maintenance. Wish I could have kept it. Good luck with the HVAC system.
Once again, without "drama" there's no Hoovie. Go, Harry.
Would love to see a restoration series, something like Harry's Garage has done here in the UK with his Espada etc, however I understand it may not pull in the viewing figures. Sometimes best to listen to the heart rather than the finances however.
I agree. Seeing Harry's Espada, Jag XJ coupe and Lancia all restored was fascinating. Sadly, looking at Harry's summary video, restoration videos don't get the views. I must confess, I don't understand why this is.
Tyler needs to send it to swallows racing in the UK, they'd do a proper job with it.
Hoovie isn't that person. Hoovie should stick to the modern stuff that doesn't need a true craftsman to bring it back to life.
Hell no, this isn't the channel for that and Tyler will be forced to sell most of his other cars to support the project, as more and more things get added along the way.
@@Rover200Power Says you?
It Absolutely deserves a full restoration. Beautiful car and it will be worth a lot more after 👍
I'd get the rust mechanicals and upgraded main seal/roof seals sorted out and leave it at that. :)
Agree - no need to go full restore - turn it into a super nice driver. Engine is going to need to be rebuilt at some point if Hoovie keeps it (and it sounds like he will) so why not do the full engine now (convert to better main seal) so you can enjoy it with as few mechanical snafus are possible. Pricey hooptie - but so is that Porsche.... :)
@@jimbosc Yes it's hard to see where you can go wrong by sorting the engine on a car like that, if you have the money that is!!! Definitely a good investment for a future sale, and I guess he won't put many miles on it anyway. Getting rid of that oil leak will probably help out the motorcyclists as well. :)
Full restauration would be very cool to see! And will be an amazing result.
I have a 67 E convertible and had it totally restored 7 years ago. If you can afford the restoration go for it, you will enjoy the car more and save it for another generation. Love the show by the way all the best from England.
A full restoration of an E-type would be awesome. Harry Metcalf's restoration vids have been brilliant.
His channel is awesome. His XJC restoration was very enjoyable
Only do a full restoration if you can take us along for the journey like Harry Metcalfe and Ian Terrell do. BTW, the 911 sounds great.
Do it Tyler. This is a slice of automotive perfection, and there are already too many others gone forever. With your contacts and your passion, this could become one of the best in the USA.
I’ve been waiting for a hoovies garage upload. My week doesn’t feel right without a video or 2
So down to see an E-type restoration. Do it Tyler!
Tyler why not do something in the middle? do a mechanical rebuild make her perfect mechanically and let her be patina'd so you can enjoy it without fear of driving it.
I'd love to see a full restoration of the Jag.. and if it's trailer queen it will fit perfectly on the best towing review channel on TH-cam
That Targa is just too cool. I am glad you saved it. Leonard is also just too cool. Being from Fayetteville, I will have to hop over to Eureka and see if he is running around. His collection is amazing. With the Jag, just retro fit the main seal and forget about it. Maybe do the seals on the top and fix the window, then call it a day. If you can fix the rust go for it, but it has such a nice petina even if it is from the 80's.
I owned an old 944 for a number of years. I kept it mechanically sorted and enjoyed the heck out of driving it. Now I have an old 911 with a TON of miles. I plan to do the same with it. No cosmetic work. Just keeping it roadworthy. I recommend you do the same with both the Jag and the 911. Enjoy!
I would love to watch a complete restoration of an E-Type, document it well and it would be a video series people come back to watch for reference
There are load of E TYPE restoration videos
@@russcooke5671 I know, but none of them with Hoovie's or Wizard's charm
If you've always wanted to do it, and you plan on keeping it forever, go for the full resto. The peace of mind alone is worth it. Plus, if push comes to shove, like you said, you could easily recoup the money in a sale. I'd love to see the Jag perfect. It's one of my halo cars.
But CAAARL the car is in basically pristine body condition and they just did a complete engine/trans overhaul. What more would a "full restoration" do to fix the leaks?
"But Seriously" nailed it. This is a keeper. I hope the recent flurry of sales has not affected this jewel! Keep it, use it,drive it. ..wind noise? C'mon !! Top Down...now that's wind noise :)
Would love to see a full restoration on that jag eventually
That means it's working.
No leaks = No oil
Hoovie you're killing me 😂 just drive your cars if they work man. And get Wizard to put some better oil in the E Type while you're at it because 10w30 is way too thin for what's basically a vintage racing engine and it's probably gonna spin a bearing.
I was thinking that 10w30 didn’t seem right
Yes it beats me why Americans are obsessed with piss-thin oil that they change every 3000 miles.
It needs Vintage 20/50 oil with all the old addives and minerals. Jaguar built hundreds of thousands of XK engines over a long period and they didn't all dump oil and get criticised.
@@johnmoruzzi7236 unfortunately they do at least have a constant mist of oil around them, I do agree 10w30 is the wrong oil and the comment about checking the breathers was spot on
@@gordonmcgregor6431 Yes a good call on the breathers, I remember Wheeler Dealers had a similar thing on a Mk2 they restored.
Go for it! I would love to see that thing in pristine condition!
What part of the car is not pristine now?
@@fgb3126 Depends on how you interpret the word pristine. I meant it as being perfect, close to or better than new, and then the answer to your question is "all of it".
Even when using the other meaning of the word it is far from pristine. Repainted, not original interior...
Hoovie,
I am a Brit, born in the 50's. DO IT, ALL OF IT!!!
You are a custodian of pure quality - jealous!
What's the old saying about classic British motors?
"If there ain't any oil under em' there ain't any oil in em'."
I was impressed with how much that Jag could tow!
Very well known for its towing capabilities, that Jag!
If you look at old Photos from the Jaguar Factory in Coventry, you'll notice that the Site, where they put the new Cars for picking up, was covered with Oilspots. They were even leaking when Factorynew.
3:43 Only if you take me out to dinner first.
A leaking Jaguar? Shocking!
Dear Hoovie
After having owned 5 Jags, the issue is not the car. it's who you take it to. Unless the mechanic grew up with Jaguars, they just won't understand how it works and what it needs. If you find one such person, they are reliable and work dependably. If there is no such person where you live, then send it to the UK to get it restored or import the Jag mechanic from the UK and bring him there on a holiday. You have first class people working for you. It is just one of those things. Can't explain it but that has been my experience.