For all the crap people give artosis there is a reason why Snow praises Artosis for being one of the best Foreigner starcraft players. He wont ever win an ASL but none matches the passion and love Artosis has for the game. Incredible game
@@eulogp9888 except i never said he was likable. What im saying is that a lot of people gripe about his inability to expand sooner or controlling his units. My point is that Snow isnt dumb. There is a reason why one of the best Starcraft players praises Artosis for being ONE of the BEST SC FOREIGNERS and people dont seem to comprehend why.
@@eulogp9888 Falcon is an exellent caster, but his analysis of was is happening in game is actually bad, many of his calls are wrong, artosis on the other hand is very accurate
The rage inducing moments for Terran are somewhat due to the Terran player's performance. There was like 7 seconds of goliaths just wildly shooting at interceptors instead of the carriers.
Haven’t been around much lately but this was such a great game to come back to as my first Falcon cast in awhile. I thought our guy RT lost when he left the top right instead of just flying factories up, but that was awesome!
I do this all the time take a super fast expansion and they usually take a 3rd faster than me lol but it's easy to fall into the trap thinking you're ahead which you are but you have to stay on top of it. If you getting no pressure just take a 3rd lol
Both players are crazy. Protoss should wait and group 12 Carriers before any attack; and always build 3 batteries to recharge the carriers. The Terrans should keep upgrading the units. The
@@misn100Athosis is a pro player. And I don't like his style. 1. He keeps cursing while playing 2. He rage quit the game without say GG in his live game session. I really don't like to watch his style in playing Broodwar. Not gentleman at all
So if the templars get their storms off and don't die you just turn them to archons. And if you then just mostly fight with air army the archons don't die that fast either and more and more of them starts to appear into your composition. Also sometimes you end up being very gas heavy and light on minerals so then you fire up bunch of templars and every protoss player knows there's a limit to how much storm you manage to cast out in a battle especially if you don't really have meat in your army but the comp is basically all templar. So you just turn some of them to archons to get at least some use out of them. I don't know which one was the reason why Semih had so much archons but those are the 2 main reasons why archons ever appear in PvT.
Why there is not a lot more battery shield when a fleet of carriers are produced. I mean carriers can take enormous damage, could quickly be restored if the Protos player had a few battery shield to recharge the retreating carriers, forwarding them back into the melee, once fully recharged. Also, why a few templar are not created to make sacrificial illusions of carriers followed by the real thing.
if you have templar with your army, you'd rather storm the goliath. You dont see battery much cause you are aupposed to engage disengage a lot, so flying home isnt too possible and shield recharge naturally accross all your carriers at one
@@eriks2962in offense, half of the templar never reach their destination to cast their spell, and once they do half of them are kill before they can retreat into safety. But if they stay in the rear as defense, near those batteries, they can be use as formidable defense, patiently accumulating energy, and once the carriers retreat to recharge their shield, the templars can add a few sacrificial illusion carriers at ZERO COST to better deceive their enemies, and mount a new assault where the enemy don't expect them.
@@PopeBenedictXVIHollyman hallucinations of carriers are not that good. the hallucination only stays up for a minute they have no armor and take double damage from everything. So really the gallucination saves you from the damage of a single volley of a control group of goliath. (a 3/3 goliath does 2 shot of 16 damage. carrier is 300/150. So a goliath does 64 damage per volley to hallucinations. So it is 8 goliath volley.) you have to research hallucination which cost 150 gas. I am not convinced. Though with carriers protoss oftens as a excess of gas that goes into making archons who die fairly quickly, so maybe keeping a couple for hallucinations would be fine at that stage.
@@eriks2962 hallucinations cost zero. Let's say 6 Carriers are preceded by 6 hallucinated ones to attack 12 Goliaths. By the time the hallucinations are destroyed, at least 6 Goliaths would have been taken down by the real Carriers, with their hull relatively intact, before retreating to the battery shields array and repeating the tactic.
@@PopeBenedictXVIHollyman No! That clearly does not work and isn't true. Hallucinations cost you something, you have to research hallucination which cost quite a bit of mineral and gas (150/150). And they cost energy on templar. 6 hallucinated carriers is 300 templar energy, which is also known as 4 storms. So no it does cost something. Now, I am a potato so I float a lot, and I could probably have a few templars just for hallucinations. But pros are much better than that. Also, you CAN NOT go from 6 carriers to 12 carriers with hallucination. It doesn't work, because players know the production rate of the protoss army, if you expect 6 carriers and 12 show up, either you missed 4 stargates or it is hallucinations. And hallucinations dispel when hit by any spell. So the only thing that having 6 hallucinated carrier would do is to bait EMP. And, ok. Maybe baiting EMP and have science vessels not have energy for D-matrix is useful. But terran normally do EMP carriers from time to time. They prefer D-matrix, but they do use EMP from time to time So I don't think they'll be massively sad to use EMP. And they will probably already have EMP researched becasue they normally keep a science vessel to spot DTs and have EMP to cast on high templars. And maybe them casting EMP on the carriers force the science vessel to go forward and that gives you a better shot at sniping them. I still think you'd rather have templars with your dragoons and blanket storm.
Falcon says ASLs do it differently, here we can do what we want Artosis is known for casting ASLs with a helper caster so its a 2 man job Falcon begins casting ASL level games by himself at home Falcon casts Artosis and doesnt miss a thing happening on the map, also noticing Artosis had idle workers everywhere....lol Good game tho
There is a humungous difference between watching a replay and playing a game. I can tell you how many times i notice idle workers in a replay yet when im doing it live, they are everywhere lol.
Awful carriers control (so many carriers lost), weak harass, mass archons... This protoss deserved to lose. A lot of bad decisions and bad micro. Achons vs vultures final battle was cool though.
The carrier screw ups were bad enough he should have just stopped making em. I mean he flew right over the goliaths several times, you just cannot do that. And you're right the archons are really a WTF type of thing to do vs Terran. All it takes is one EMP to complete ruin them too.
These are a far cry from noobs, but they look like crap against Korean pros. Then again who do we have outside Korea who is anywhere near that level of skill? Dewalt?
what a game.... wonderful ❤❤❤❤❤❤
For all the crap people give artosis there is a reason why Snow praises Artosis for being one of the best Foreigner starcraft players. He wont ever win an ASL but none matches the passion and love Artosis has for the game. Incredible game
Artosis Is the reason i returned to the game after 20 years. AND not Only that. Is the Only game i care about
His awful biased and arrogant style might be the reason why some dislike him. Falcon gets lots of crap in his channel for no reason.
@@eulogp9888 except i never said he was likable. What im saying is that a lot of people gripe about his inability to expand sooner or controlling his units. My point is that Snow isnt dumb. There is a reason why one of the best Starcraft players praises Artosis for being ONE of the BEST SC FOREIGNERS and people dont seem to comprehend why.
If he wasn't so stubborn he could be ASL tier, the mans game knowledge is unreal, but he just has some bad habits he refuses to shake....
@@eulogp9888 Falcon is an exellent caster, but his analysis of was is happening in game is actually bad, many of his calls are wrong, artosis on the other hand is very accurate
now imagine Artosis won that game with all the screeching TTS in the world.
I was there, it was during the Montreal Lan
The "carrier control" by Semi made me want to eat my keyboard
Lol...that was a nice hybrid opening but artosis had way better micro
That was an insane game! So happy I watched it live! Thanks for casting it
@@eriks2962 No problem!
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Nicely done, Artosis
That was a truly EPIC game! The back and forth! I did not expect that final gg! Thank you for the host Galu ❤ (hehe, kept it spoiler free)
Great game for sure!
Falco: What is goin on? We don't get bugs in Starcraft.
Zergkind : What the f*ck u talkin bout?
The epic tag needs an epic tag for that. Never quit, never surrender.
That looping music was truly strange...and unprecedented
RIGHT? No idea what's going on.
The rage inducing moments for Terran are somewhat due to the Terran player's performance. There was like 7 seconds of goliaths just wildly shooting at interceptors instead of the carriers.
Would love to see you and Artosis do a stream together some time
I LOVE scrappy endings, and this was one of the best so far!
ooh im early for an epic tag! lets go
Haven’t been around much lately but this was such a great game to come back to as my first Falcon cast in awhile. I thought our guy RT lost when he left the top right instead of just flying factories up, but that was awesome!
@@HappyChillmore Hey, glad to see you! Great game for sure!
That was even more interesting than korean games =))) Thx Paladin !
I do this all the time take a super fast expansion and they usually take a 3rd faster than me lol but it's easy to fall into the trap thinking you're ahead which you are but you have to stay on top of it. If you getting no pressure just take a 3rd lol
Arty can't expand to third, it's a mental block.
@@doltBmB same
I wish more games came down to this late scarcity phase.
Both players are crazy.
Protoss should wait and group 12 Carriers before any attack; and always build 3 batteries to recharge the carriers.
The Terrans should keep upgrading the units.
The
@@calvinfoo theyre not pro level players it seems. one of the sloppiest games ever shown on this channel
@@misn100Athosis is a pro player. And I don't like his style.
1. He keeps cursing while playing
2. He rage quit the game without say GG in his live game session.
I really don't like to watch his style in playing Broodwar. Not gentleman at all
@@calvinfooThat's exactly why we love him. If you don't rage quit or cursing in game, you are not a true gamer.
That vulture micro at the end though...
"I'd rather micro 2 vultures"
This is from the 2024 Montreal LAN. Semih won the series 3-1 IIRC
@23:09 "Big surprise! Quelle surprise!" I love how you sometime integrate some french in your videos haha!
@@giantpedro 🇫🇷
So if the templars get their storms off and don't die you just turn them to archons. And if you then just mostly fight with air army the archons don't die that fast either and more and more of them starts to appear into your composition. Also sometimes you end up being very gas heavy and light on minerals so then you fire up bunch of templars and every protoss player knows there's a limit to how much storm you manage to cast out in a battle especially if you don't really have meat in your army but the comp is basically all templar. So you just turn some of them to archons to get at least some use out of them. I don't know which one was the reason why Semih had so much archons but those are the 2 main reasons why archons ever appear in PvT.
Crazy game. The throw at the and make it to 90 yards.
I want to watch my two fav starcraft commenter fight a match. Artosis vs falcon. Lets go!!!
HA Artosis can hit S rank on ladder, I'm at least C-rank. It'd be no fun to watch, I promise. :D
You maybe a C rank player but you are a conceptual S rank player in out hearts
if RNG didn't exist Startosis would be #1 ranked T player in the galaxy!
Curious do you have any carriers vs zerg games, Falcon?
I sure do!
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@@FalconPaladin thank you
Congratulations artosis. Thanks falcon paladin .gg🐻👍🏽☕
Hahahah. Calling it at 3:45. Oh the pain. 😅
How'd your prediction go? :)
@@FalconPaladinnot good! GG!!
Caster curse again
Wow, Artosis! He played nicely today. What an epic game! He deserved this victory!
I'm a simple man, I see carriers against Artosis, I click.
Why there is not a lot more battery shield when a fleet of carriers are produced. I mean carriers can take enormous damage, could quickly be restored if the Protos player had a few battery shield to recharge the retreating carriers, forwarding them back into the melee, once fully recharged.
Also, why a few templar are not created to make sacrificial illusions of carriers followed by the real thing.
if you have templar with your army, you'd rather storm the goliath.
You dont see battery much cause you are aupposed to engage disengage a lot, so flying home isnt too possible and shield recharge naturally accross all your carriers at one
@@eriks2962in offense, half of the templar never reach their destination to cast their spell, and once they do half of them are kill before they can retreat into safety.
But if they stay in the rear as defense, near those batteries, they can be use as formidable defense, patiently accumulating energy, and once the carriers retreat to recharge their shield, the templars can add a few sacrificial illusion carriers at ZERO COST to better deceive their enemies, and mount a new assault where the enemy don't expect them.
@@PopeBenedictXVIHollyman hallucinations of carriers are not that good. the hallucination only stays up for a minute they have no armor and take double damage from everything. So really the gallucination saves you from the damage of a single volley of a control group of goliath. (a 3/3 goliath does 2 shot of 16 damage. carrier is 300/150. So a goliath does 64 damage per volley to hallucinations. So it is 8 goliath volley.)
you have to research hallucination which cost 150 gas. I am not convinced.
Though with carriers protoss oftens as a excess of gas that goes into making archons who die fairly quickly, so maybe keeping a couple for hallucinations would be fine at that stage.
@@eriks2962 hallucinations cost zero.
Let's say 6 Carriers are preceded by 6 hallucinated ones to attack 12 Goliaths. By the time the hallucinations are destroyed, at least 6 Goliaths would have been taken down by the real Carriers, with their hull relatively intact, before retreating to the battery shields array and repeating the tactic.
@@PopeBenedictXVIHollyman No! That clearly does not work and isn't true.
Hallucinations cost you something, you have to research hallucination which cost quite a bit of mineral and gas (150/150). And they cost energy on templar. 6 hallucinated carriers is 300 templar energy, which is also known as 4 storms. So no it does cost something. Now, I am a potato so I float a lot, and I could probably have a few templars just for hallucinations. But pros are much better than that.
Also, you CAN NOT go from 6 carriers to 12 carriers with hallucination. It doesn't work, because players know the production rate of the protoss army, if you expect 6 carriers and 12 show up, either you missed 4 stargates or it is hallucinations. And hallucinations dispel when hit by any spell. So the only thing that having 6 hallucinated carrier would do is to bait EMP.
And, ok. Maybe baiting EMP and have science vessels not have energy for D-matrix is useful. But terran normally do EMP carriers from time to time. They prefer D-matrix, but they do use EMP from time to time So I don't think they'll be massively sad to use EMP. And they will probably already have EMP researched becasue they normally keep a science vessel to spot DTs and have EMP to cast on high templars.
And maybe them casting EMP on the carriers force the science vessel to go forward and that gives you a better shot at sniping them.
I still think you'd rather have templars with your dragoons and blanket storm.
epic!
Artosis is THEE WORST zerg player in the Pro Scene!
Go blue missiles, go!
13:05
My terran heart is crying blood
Take heart!
DAYUM!
What an epic match
For the algorithm
carrier control was quite sloppy 🤣
Este protoss es un mancazo, no sabe que hacer con los carriers y encima saca high templar para llevarlos a la muerte xD
Nice
Well played Artois
ARTOSIS ILYSM
Great game but make a shield battery for carriers my goodness. I feel like they're huge in SC2 (I get that overcharge is a thing but still)
Hi Falcon do you know where is Semih from? Name sounds Turkish
@@The100suz American! Probably has ancestry from somewhere around Turkey. Or not!
Semih is a Turkish name. It is very widely used.
@@FalconPaladin thanks a lot
Semih is my brother
We are American with German ancestry
It’s out last name backwards
@@erichimes6716 Good to know! Thanks for stopping by! Crazy game!
Wow what a game
Falcon says ASLs do it differently, here we can do what we want
Artosis is known for casting ASLs with a helper caster so its a 2 man job
Falcon begins casting ASL level games by himself at home
Falcon casts Artosis and doesnt miss a thing happening on the map, also noticing Artosis had idle workers everywhere....lol
Good game tho
There is a humungous difference between watching a replay and playing a game. I can tell you how many times i notice idle workers in a replay yet when im doing it live, they are everywhere lol.
Wow!
I like artosis, but there was NO reason he should have won that game. What a comeback
Too many archons and bad carrier micro did it
zerg?
Absolutely insane 😂
Awesome game.
Wow
The classic "N" scout
somedaya i feel like i have 8hp..
Me, too, man.
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Who is this Semih dude? Is he Turkish?
Semih threw so many times, especially with carriers
look carefully near end... SCV kills archon 1v1
Nice work, SCV! Very brave. :)
Awful carriers control (so many carriers lost), weak harass, mass archons... This protoss deserved to lose. A lot of bad decisions and bad micro.
Achons vs vultures final battle was cool though.
The carrier screw ups were bad enough he should have just stopped making em. I mean he flew right over the goliaths several times, you just cannot do that. And you're right the archons are really a WTF type of thing to do vs Terran. All it takes is one EMP to complete ruin them too.
Hi falcon
@@chaddunn6334 Hola!
worst carriers control I've ever seen
Insane! Just kill that 3 SCVs and reign... but you just don't know they R the last ones and no money to produce )
T v P
2 in a row Falcon. What's going on? ;)
if you have 3 playable races the probability of this happening after a while is pretty high
No Koreans allowed? lol what a joke
SPOILERS
How did artosis pull that one off? 😂😂😂 only god knows
2 noobs hanging there..
These are a far cry from noobs, but they look like crap against Korean pros. Then again who do we have outside Korea who is anywhere near that level of skill? Dewalt?
wowwwww what a way to spend 45 minutes.... incredible