We have 2000+ hours on our X7. It has had quite a number of problems but it has also been great to use. The unlocked control has been a game changer for us and the fine surface finish is impressive. You get what you pay for. This machine is all of the potential quality without the service to get it there. I wish that we could have paid support. Chen is great! but time is money. They need USA stock of parts. Here is a list of production stopping problems that we have had so far: -Swing arm position sensor was not secure and caused a crash. -Spindle was missing a gasket and rusted out the bearings after a 1000 hours. -Tool release button, and piston position sensors stopped working after 500 hours. -The pull stud claw needed replacement at 1200 hours. -The enclosure sprung a leak. -The X axis ball nut was missing screws from the factory. -We also ground the spindle flange flat to get rid of a harmonic at 7200 RMP. Just an observation: Nerdly's machine is a bit too clean if you know what I mean. One would expect the buttons on the control to have a bit more wear and for the paint to look like chips have chipped away at it. Overall, we are happy with the machine. These are so cheap for what they are. Mr. Chen has really innovated with the machine design. They just need better QA and USA part stocking.
Thank you for your comment, I will check these things and other general tightening, etc. When I get my X9, I think bang for buck these are a great machine 😊
Yeah, I will think Titans will help bring the machines and service to new hights. they possible have taken the previous distributor into their portifolio, and/or some main guys from there that already knows the machines well. Will be exiting to follow.@@Thorhian
Great review. It would be great to hear more about your experience with tolerances, surfacing accuracy, surface finish, control options, macros, and other important machining aspects of this brand. Performance is really more important than size and price when you're making parts for a living.
I've only had experience with Mazak, Korean VMC of various brand and Doosan product. As I'm shopping for a 40x20x20 mill I saw these X11 model but I don't even think they are in production in shops anywhere. I'm afraid to spend so much money on basically a fix-it-yourself machine which is the main reason I want to depart from my old Eagle Yang SMV-1000. My machine runs 40 hours a week at maximum rpm, would you be comfortable doing this with your X7? I also have a smaller 24x12x15 VMC that is equiped with Fanuc controller/servo/spindle that I would even consider replacing for an X7 if the machine can sustain daily production without falling apart.
@@rickstard73 Hi mate. Yep …. 100%. With our WOKE governments off-shoring all of our industries at a rate of knots 🤬🤬, the growth of ‘cottage’ scale industries is the way to go. Robert (Sydney)
Thanks for doing this 2 year video. Really appreciate all the content you put out.... just wish for more. And what happened to you idea of doing training videos or classes?
It's overkill for that, and depending on the spindle speed it might be unsuitable. For hardwood you don't need that much stiffness. Get a gantry style CNC, or better yet, DIY it. You will get better performance for your use (more area) for like $3000.
what kind of hardwood sculptures? This is WAY overkill for almost everything wood I can imagine, except maybe if you want to make ornate chess pieces? For it to make any sense, your product would have to very intricate and even then you'll almost certainly be better off with a smaller 5 axis machine
@@NerdlyCNC Awesome! I don't think I've seen a single TH-cam channel that does in-depth videos of it, just machining demos. It will be great to see some real content on that machine.
@@kevind1865 Agreed, we have a new M560 in our shop in about a month... it really is a challenge to find any in-depth content. @nerdly808 would love to see more of your M560 if you ever get a chance!
? I think the height syil gives is when spindle is at up position. I have been thinking about getting one. I have space that is mostly really low at height but there is few spaces that connect to second floor. I would still need to move mashine trough low spaces. So how high is the syil x7 when spindle is down.
Very good review. I really like those machines for price and quality. I may look into one after seeing your reviews. The support is a tough one for me. We have 14 machines now and some of the best support, with current work load we have no time for outside support that charges while they Learn your machine if that makes sense.
I love my hurcos. I didnt try syil or any other chinese brand vmc because I think they are overpriced at the moment. I do preffer purchase couple years used machine than new chinese vmc
@@swordfish2089 I think haas is little bit light machine.For milling aluminium is ok,but for more heavy cuts hurco is better choice.Anyway is your decision what to choose.Good luck
Syil sells a T5 and T7 machines . They are tap drill centers . Huge travels x600,x700 compared to S7 , Rapids are 48m/min. .i know they wont luimp off metal as well as a T7 though. Did they ever sell any anywhere ?? Searched for vids there is nothing except by syil itself. M/C weights are wrong in their own adverts 4500kg is not 4500 lbs. Communications with China is not good. I asked about unlocked parameters and was told the if door unlocked the program will stop . hmmm
Spoiler alert, THK makes cheap ways and blocks, the price goes up as you increase the accuracy, and by quite a lot. Same with screws and nuts. If you ever pull the way covers off, and we all should at least every year to make sure the lube system is fine, please do a video showing the construction details. PS, my Kitamura takes issue that all BT30 machines are weak and shouldn't run 5/8" or bigger tools.
@@NerdlyCNC Listen to the part where you talk about mechanical components... And you know as well as 99% of internet you're blowing up Xushuo's arse... Syil is just another Chinese machine...only thing special going about it is TH-cam sluts singing it undue praises
He said the way covers are arguably the best in the shop. I did not hear him say it was better. That would be a stretch of the imagination. Pay attention.
We have 2000+ hours on our X7. It has had quite a number of problems but it has also been great to use. The unlocked control has been a game changer for us and the fine surface finish is impressive. You get what you pay for. This machine is all of the potential quality without the service to get it there. I wish that we could have paid support. Chen is great! but time is money. They need USA stock of parts.
Here is a list of production stopping problems that we have had so far:
-Swing arm position sensor was not secure and caused a crash.
-Spindle was missing a gasket and rusted out the bearings after a 1000 hours.
-Tool release button, and piston position sensors stopped working after 500 hours.
-The pull stud claw needed replacement at 1200 hours.
-The enclosure sprung a leak.
-The X axis ball nut was missing screws from the factory.
-We also ground the spindle flange flat to get rid of a harmonic at 7200 RMP.
Just an observation: Nerdly's machine is a bit too clean if you know what I mean. One would expect the buttons on the control to have a bit more wear and for the paint to look like chips have chipped away at it.
Overall, we are happy with the machine. These are so cheap for what they are. Mr. Chen has really innovated with the machine design. They just need better QA and USA part stocking.
Thank you for your comment, I will check these things and other general tightening, etc. When I get my X9, I think bang for buck these are a great machine 😊
Well, Titans of CNC just announced that they are now the USA distributor for Syil, so maybe there is a chance for better part stocking?
Yeah, I will think Titans will help bring the machines and service to new hights. they possible have taken the previous distributor into their portifolio, and/or some main guys from there that already knows the machines well. Will be exiting to follow.@@Thorhian
yeah they said they'll store parts in texas@@Thorhian
Thanks for the above report . Makes me appreciate my 20yo Robodrill even more.
Great review. It would be great to hear more about your experience with tolerances, surfacing accuracy, surface finish, control options, macros, and other important machining aspects of this brand. Performance is really more important than size and price when you're making parts for a living.
yes, is there a video yet?
I've only had experience with Mazak, Korean VMC of various brand and Doosan product. As I'm shopping for a 40x20x20 mill I saw these X11 model but I don't even think they are in production in shops anywhere. I'm afraid to spend so much money on basically a fix-it-yourself machine which is the main reason I want to depart from my old Eagle Yang SMV-1000. My machine runs 40 hours a week at maximum rpm, would you be comfortable doing this with your X7?
I also have a smaller 24x12x15 VMC that is equiped with Fanuc controller/servo/spindle that I would even consider replacing for an X7 if the machine can sustain daily production without falling apart.
Still love the X7… wish it was in my shop… it would be on YT much more with that beauty:)
I think a straight up "Yes I would buy it again" or "No I wouldn't" would've been the best conclusion to leave...
Thanks for your honest appraisal Jason.
And goodonya for championing a growing US manufacturing sector.
Regards
Robert
( Australia)
I kust ordered one, X9 and L2 (lathe) now lets wake up the Australian Manufacturing sector 🙂
@@rickstard73
Hi mate. Yep …. 100%.
With our WOKE governments off-shoring all of our industries at a rate of knots 🤬🤬, the growth of ‘cottage’ scale industries is the way to go.
Robert
(Sydney)
Thanks for doing this 2 year video. Really appreciate all the content you put out.... just wish for more. And what happened to you idea of doing training videos or classes?
A Syil review sponsored by Syil. Gee. 🤣
Ill give a positive review if they send me an x7 as well 😊
Nicely presented, Thanks for sharing!
I’m really eager to see if they make a 5 axis the size of the 7 or 11
im interested in this machine. But I would use it for cutting hardwood sculptures. Do you think it would be an issue?
It's overkill for that, and depending on the spindle speed it might be unsuitable. For hardwood you don't need that much stiffness. Get a gantry style CNC, or better yet, DIY it. You will get better performance for your use (more area) for like $3000.
what kind of hardwood sculptures? This is WAY overkill for almost everything wood I can imagine, except maybe if you want to make ornate chess pieces? For it to make any sense, your product would have to very intricate and even then you'll almost certainly be better off with a smaller 5 axis machine
I think I already have an idea of what your opinion on this would be, but how would you compare this to a tricked out Tormach 770MX?
Thanks for your content! Super helpful and entertaining. You recommending the Mitsubishi ASX 445 helped me!
Very nice review. I know nothing about these machines but it looks like a really nice unit.
WHERE CAN I JOIN THE SYIL COMMUNITY? I WANNA JOIN :)
Thanks for the follow up review!
Did you get rid of your M560V? You did 3 videos and I haven't seen it mentioned again.
No I have it and still love it. I’ll make some content soon.
@@NerdlyCNC Awesome! I don't think I've seen a single TH-cam channel that does in-depth videos of it, just machining demos.
It will be great to see some real content on that machine.
@@kevind1865 Agreed, we have a new M560 in our shop in about a month... it really is a challenge to find any in-depth content. @nerdly808 would love to see more of your M560 if you ever get a chance!
Nice review! Thanks for the feedback!
? I think the height syil gives is when spindle is at up position. I have been thinking about getting one. I have space that is mostly really low at height but there is few spaces that connect to second floor. I would still need to move mashine trough low spaces. So how high is the syil x7 when spindle is down.
I don't remember the height exactly with the z axis lowered, but I fit it under my 7' garage door no problem
Very good review. I really like those machines for price and quality. I may look into one after seeing your reviews.
The support is a tough one for me. We have 14 machines now and some of the best support, with current work load we have no time for outside support that charges while they Learn your machine if that makes sense.
I love my hurcos. I didnt try syil or any other chinese brand vmc because I think they are overpriced at the moment. I do preffer purchase couple years used machine than new chinese vmc
I am stuck between Hurco and Hass for my startup shop. Any advise or thoughts?
You know Hurcos are produced in Taiwan right?
@@swordfish2089 I think haas is little bit light machine.For milling aluminium is ok,but for more heavy cuts hurco is better choice.Anyway is your decision what to choose.Good luck
@@philipstephan4511 Yes I know
@@philipstephan4511 That's a good thing these days.
Syil sells a T5 and T7 machines . They are tap drill centers . Huge travels x600,x700 compared to S7 , Rapids are 48m/min. .i know they wont luimp off metal as well as a T7 though. Did they ever sell any anywhere ?? Searched for vids there is nothing except by syil itself. M/C weights are wrong in their own adverts 4500kg is not 4500 lbs. Communications with China is not good. I asked about unlocked parameters and was told the if door unlocked the program will stop . hmmm
Great review love your videos
really wondering why you took down your tormach video?
Spoiler alert, THK makes cheap ways and blocks, the price goes up as you increase the accuracy, and by quite a lot. Same with screws and nuts. If you ever pull the way covers off, and we all should at least every year to make sure the lube system is fine, please do a video showing the construction details.
PS, my Kitamura takes issue that all BT30 machines are weak and shouldn't run 5/8" or bigger tools.
If controls are unlocked why it is not possible to speed up tool changer!?
Did you crashed the machine? How bad was it?
Would be nice if the can get a polygon shaft on this..
I came here because of the Okuma content. What happened?
Do noy buy chicom machines
they are expensive.
but x7 has 3 phase electricty.. this is very bad to manage for start up
It has a community support!?? Wow, Syil must be a great brand 😂😂😂😂
Better than an Okuma!??? 😂😂😂 You are an embarrassment to this trade!
Who said this machine was Better than a 18,000lb Japanese VMC ?
@@NerdlyCNC Listen to the part where you talk about mechanical components... And you know as well as 99% of internet you're blowing up Xushuo's arse... Syil is just another Chinese machine...only thing special going about it is TH-cam sluts singing it undue praises
He said the way covers are arguably the best in the shop. I did not hear him say it was better. That would be a stretch of the imagination. Pay attention.
He never said anything like the syil is better than an okuma, Asshole (A is capital).
seems you hate syil machines