Orange Pi 5: Excellent RK3588S Octa Core SBC

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  • Orange Pi 5 SBC review, including hardware specifications, with demos running Ubuntu and Debian, and applications that include Chromium, GIMP, LibreOffice, Blender and Kdenlive. There is also discussion of the differences between an RK3588 and RK3588S system on a chip (SoC), with tests to show the implications for the speed of an M.2 NVMe SSD.
    At the time of uploading this video (Jan 14th 2023), the 4GB Orange Pi 5 was selling on Amazon.com for $82.99 -- amzn.to/3IOe2li Note that this is an affiliate link, and that as an Amazon Associate I earn a commission from any qualifying purchases you may make.
    The Orange Pi 5 featured in this video was purchased on pre-release from AliExpress in November 2022 for £53.03 plus taxes and shipping, which came to £74.35 delivered. At the time of making this video (in the second week of January 2023) the 4GB model with no accessories included was selling on AliExpress for $75.00. But as I say in the video, Orange Pi prices seem to change very regularly, and the board is sold in a lot of different packages.
    You can learn more about the Orange Pi 5, and download operating system images, from its web page here: www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare...
    Please note that the above is not an affiliate or otherwise sponsored link, and that I have no association with Orange Pi.
    My previous review of the Rock 5B is here:
    • Rock 5B: Powerful RK35...
    My previous review of the Orange Pi 800 ARM keyboard computer is here:
    • Orange Pi 800: ARM Key...
    If you are interested in comparing the RK3588 and RK3588S SoCs, you can review information as follows:
    RK3588 datasheet:
    www.rock-chips.com/uploads/pd...
    RK2588S Datasheet:
    www.cnx-software.com/pdf/data...
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:50 Unboxing & Specs:
    07:19 Ubuntu
    12:05 NVMe Speed Test
    14:55 Debian & Applications (inc Kdenlive render test)
    20:33 Wrap
    #OrangePi5 #RK3588S #explainingcomputers
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  • @TheGregEgg
    @TheGregEgg ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was really disappointed to see the board isn't orange in color.

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana5142 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Jumped out of bed to be here with everybody! Keep your eyes averted!

  • @Chris.Wiley.
    @Chris.Wiley. ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Thanks for demonstrating the difference between the RK3588 and RK3588S. That is very helpful!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I thought it was worth highlighting, as they are often equated . . .

    • @mctt
      @mctt ปีที่แล้ว +5

      14:08 NVMe Speed difference is substantial. (For anyone else who just want the answer).

    • @m8hackr60
      @m8hackr60 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, definitely above and beyond the call of duty.

    • @ThePantygun
      @ThePantygun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cut to the NPU testing. @@ExplainingComputers

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +206

    The main thing Orange Pi is doing that *could* differentiate themselves from the rest of the Pi clone crowd is maintaining their own Orange Pi OS.
    I wish them luck, and hope that the OS is well maintained. Having a first party OS that "just works" would be a huge advantage compared to the "here are 6 OSes that all work... more or less (usually less)" which is the status quo in the space :(

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Hi Jeff -- I agree. We just need on well-supported OS. So it is strange that Orange Pi OS has been late to the table for both the Orange Pi 800 and Orange Pi 5.

    • @Remigrator
      @Remigrator ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Then you should start developing that operating system right away! I will check on your progress tomorrow. 😁

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ExplainingComputers I feel that they don't see how much of a competitive advantage it would be to have their OS be maintained to a similar degree as Pi OS.
      As it is, industries and organizations (where Pi sells like hotcakes) are loathe to start adopting those boards mostly because of that lack of support.
      I won't hold my breath, but I really do wish they would do better!

    • @hiiaminfi
      @hiiaminfi ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Remigrator very interesting take:
      Person A: Well there is this problem with product X
      Person B: Why don't YOU fix that problem?
      Just a little food for thought: If they want a community backing such an OS they will have to prove to a group of people that it is actually worth sinking time into a first party OS for OrangePi's instead of ... you know buying a RPI, flasing RPI OS on it and calling it a day

    • @horseradishpower9947
      @horseradishpower9947 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JeffGeerling I agree. One of the things I look at when SBC reviews appear is what the OS/software support is like. And this is where they invariably fail to motivate me to buy their product.
      The only one that is a notable exception is the Rock 5B, which looks great on the hardware and software side of things.

  • @antoniosandoval8383
    @antoniosandoval8383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love when you call Mr. Scissors, brings me calm feelings, like if I was watching a Mr. Rogers episode. Great show! Love your content!

  • @david78212
    @david78212 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I know Raspberry does off-production making of their chips to keep costs down. But, they had better consider the repercussions of having the Pi out of the retail(?) environment for so long. There are dozens of "Raspberry Pi" alternative videos out already and I have moved on to a board that is powered directly by 12v, mostly because I am NOT going to pay $260 from scalpers for a Pi and directly powered by 12v makes what I am doing easier on me. Pi will still have its following, but a lot of others have moved on. Even printer companies have started making their own powered by 12/24v to make installation easier. Raspberry is not going to have the following they had for so long the longer this keeps being the norm.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree, using a phone charger through usb cable to power up a computer is sketchy idea as hell, and it should be avoided long time ago. Only good reason is low cost and ability to sell its own Raspberry power supply (which needs to output 5.1V for RPI to work properly, which proves my point). DC barrel jack with at least 12V input for next RPI would be ideal solution, it does not cost arm and leg, allows for proper input power management and can handle higher current. Other solution would be a quick charge / power delivery usage for power up. Shame on Raspberry for such unreliable solution.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am not sure I understand the logic of your argument.
      The Raspberry Pi is an "anomaly" - I don't think Eben Upton and the Foundation had any idea originally that the Pi would be taken up by the hobbyist community anywhere near as much as it has been - clearly, the original board was aimed at education to bring computer skills into schools in as low cost a manner as possible. In order to pursue that aim, the Foundation had to make commitments to industry to supply boards to them also on the basis that they put up some of the money.
      The fact that the Pi has taken off so well has meant that there's more money for better support can be given for its primary OS but, of course, that has created supply issues, especially during "the thing that cannot be mentioned". That has created this anomalous scenario.
      Personally I'd estimate that Raspberry Pi as an SBC probably occupies 75-80% of the hobbyist market, with all other SBCs competing for the remaining 20-25%, as other manufacturers have "followed suit" and released their own boards.
      So there's the problem, in a nutshell - everyone is setting too high expectations on other manufacturers who are supposed to provide as much support as the Raspberry Pi Foundation does but with less market share, smaller user bases and less income.
      To me, that's a "user problem" with too many people wanting it all too easy. A "hobby" is a past-time that, by definition, an individual puts in a lot of effort to getting pleasure and enjoyment from it - SBCs are no different because nothing stops you learning Linux well and then having a go at customising your own builds yourself to get the best out of the hardware you are running it on. But that means time and effort on the user's part, no different to a hobbyist custom car builder or someone that sails their own boat for pleasure. If you are not willing to put in that time and effort, then maybe it's time for a different hobby?
      In simple terms, the success of the Raspberry Pi is entirely the wrong benchmark to measure other SBCs by because the success of the Pi was an anomaly.

    • @david78212
      @david78212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 That's part of what I meant, there is so much "ready made" stuff out there for a Pi, people don't really have to do anything. There are alternatives for the Pi already and the Raspberry Foundation is screwing up giving people so much time to figure that out. I have an alternative for what I needed it for, natively runs on 12v instead of a buck converter. The Raspberry Foundation is giving too many people too much time to figure out that there are alternatives out there already. It's a faster processor and supports eMMC. I get that they are trying to stick to a "price point", but, it's going to cost them in the long run. Instead of "making" something, they are simply assembling off-the-shelf parts to make what they wanted.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@david78212 But you're over-simplifying the situation - it's not just about profit making, there is also a commitment to the charitable works of the Raspberry Pi Foundation and to industry, that presumably put in the original investment.
      You're simply not comparing "like for like" and I am not shilling for Raspberry Pi either, especially as my competence with Linux (since 1996) means that I am perfectly capable of making the best of non-RPi boards with custom Gentoo Linux builds.
      Only this morning I have received my new Banana Pi BPI-P2 Zero board and I have an Orange Pi 800 and Orange Pi 5 on order.
      But to get the best out of any of those boards you need to invest time and effort to do your own kernel compilations and builds.

    • @icraftcrafts8685
      @icraftcrafts8685 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt that. The eco system of the pi is complete. Others take a very long time to even get to basics of install in some cases. Unfortunately pi will be even bigger when they fully restock. They will probably come along with some surprise version or price and the market will be flooded with non pi

  • @andrewd4906
    @andrewd4906 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have a 16GB version and have been very impressed. I added a USB wifi dongle and that sorted the lack of onboard allowing an nvme drive to be used. I run Ubuntu. I was also impressed by the online manual. As always excellent video. Thanks

  • @allmac7504
    @allmac7504 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was/am considering buying so firstly thanks! I’m going to watch this a few times ,as usual you cram in so much important relevant info I need time to revisit and figest.

  • @NJHewitt
    @NJHewitt ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Chris, another good video! I've had one of these myself for a few weeks now, and after installing the panfork gpu driver, to get proper hardware accel, it's screaming quick! - far snappier in UI response with lots of web tabs open than my 2015 Macbook Pro, which would have cost well over twenty times as much. (granted, a laptop includes a display, keyboard, speakers, battery, etc)
    I do wish you'd tried that webGL test again with the hw-accel enabled - I doubt your audience who might buy SBCs are intimated by adding a PPA repo.

  • @BillyRazOr2011
    @BillyRazOr2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very excitement of Orange Pi 5! Great job Chris! And also Happy Lunar New Year! 👍🏻

  • @chriskaye1997
    @chriskaye1997 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dear Chris, I really like your content and delivery, it brings back memories of the BBC when it used to provide amazing programming like Tomorrow’s World many years ago.

  • @drummindog
    @drummindog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your awesome content. I was watching on a phone and got a chuckle. Those apples looked like green peppers. Keep up the good work, sir!

  • @johncundiff7075
    @johncundiff7075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Mr. Barnatt!! Keep up the excellent work!!!!!

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Once again, another Orange Pi product that is impressive with it’s early software not being disappointing! I like the way SBC,s are heading, Really looking forward to your “Raspberry Pi 4 Alternatives” video. I’m very interested in how software development has improved on some of the boards you have reviewed in the past. Looking forward to your next video!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Greetings Perry. There certainly seems to have been a sea change when it comes to software at Orange Pi.

    • @perrymcclusky4695
      @perrymcclusky4695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Hoping to see that change continue.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. ปีที่แล้ว

      What is an SPC?

    • @perrymcclusky4695
      @perrymcclusky4695 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Okurka. LOL I’ll have to correct that! It must stand for Stupid Person at a Computer.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExplainingComputers I'd love to see a video about software support and compatibility, especially a few years after release. For a while it seemed like SBCs would have a flurry of reviews at release, report OS issues but that the mfgr was working on it, and then you'd never hear about the board again. At least a few years ago, that meant maybe two or three good software updates, and then the company would be working on the next board and you were on your own.

  • @anthonyfmoss
    @anthonyfmoss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I realise this is a somewhat off the wall comment. In times past, countless English people used to go to Evensong at church and hear the vicar dressed in black intone the familiar words of the service. They knew the exact form of the words and where they would come. This was a source of great comfort to many. Nowadays, I an Englishman - and many others across the world - go to TH-cam on a Sunday evening to watch and listen to a man dressed in black, with a serious face and glasses intone very familiar words each week. We know whereabouts in the liturgy they come, especially the "blessing" at the end of the "service": "Thats it for another.........very soon". Am I the only one to find this very comforting? I particularly like the "sermons" on SBCs Rev Barnatt. Good one tonight vicar!

  • @theodorechryssanthidis
    @theodorechryssanthidis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this review Christopher!!! It is about time for the SOCs to get a market share of the desktop! Not all of us need to keep on having such huge desktops!!! Very good point to show us the I/O throughput difference with the RK3588 chip! Waiting for your Raspberry Pi 4 Alternatives video!

  • @emailuser3869
    @emailuser3869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ExplainingComputers thanks for your thorough videos. This is an excellent resource for SBC facts.

  • @pccsrr
    @pccsrr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, I'm a big fan of these videos with SBC.

  • @horseradishpower9947
    @horseradishpower9947 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this video. Your Raspberry Pi alternative video is one I am looking forward to. I am sure you will give us some very thought provoking alternatives to consider.

  • @walterpark8824
    @walterpark8824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ywt another excellent review, with swlwxt detail of essential comparisons. Thanks!

  • @brianthorburn4957
    @brianthorburn4957 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great review , the normal standard from Chris ..very professional , great detail

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always like the SBC features. Thanks for another great video Chris. 👍

  • @SusanAmberBruce
    @SusanAmberBruce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Chris, for another Sunday video, Great stuff!
    I especially like your tutorial videos to help us actually use this stuff if we are fortunate to have it, yesterday for example I watched your video about setting up Open Media Vault on a Raspberry Pi and I used the information you gave to set up Open media Vault on an Atomic Pi (bit of an old SBC) it was collecting dust in the cupboard because it's not quite up to running a desktop but for Open Media Vault it does fine for a simple home NAS system.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Susan, great to hear this. I can imagine that OMV runs great on an Atomic Pi. A good use for it! :)

  • @thewiirocks
    @thewiirocks ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for reviewing this board Chris! I do think you should have highlighted the different memory configurations a bit more. Having a 16GB version available for such an incredibly low price is a real game changer. In many ways, I think this is far more important for real-world use than having a faster NVMe drive. There's a point past which more NVMe performance doesn't do anything useful if the rest of the system can't keep up.
    Altogether, I love the starch out of this board. It's fantastic out of the box with excellent software support. Community support is ramping up quickly with Armbian providing their own OS image *with* 3D acceleration support. The system has enough grunt to be a daily driver desktop, but also makes an excellent server platform with some truly impressive thermals despite the incredible power of the system!
    At times like this, I'm reminded of how the quad core Banana Pi was simply uncoolable, managing to burn myself on my attempts. Apparently they have a giant heatsink for the tiny board now that I'd like to try out. But you compare that to the Orange Pi 5 which is software decoding TH-cam without a heatsink or fan. That is *impressive* to say the least!

    • @darkobelisk4076
      @darkobelisk4076 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree. I don't think I've ever been bottlenecked by I/O, just inconvenienced on the rare occasion I move a big bunch of files around. Eagerly watching Discord to see when it's ready for prime time as potentially a great home server.

  • @merthyr1831
    @merthyr1831 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting choice to ship Debian AND Ubuntu, especially with both using XFCE.
    As for performance, I'm very impressed! My Raspberry Pi 4B costed upwards of £100 just to get the 8GB model (before we consider heatsinks and external peripherals) and runs Plex Media Server, Sonarr, Radarr, Qbittorrent, Nextcloud all concurrently with no issues using DietPi Linux (Which I think you should do a video on sometime, Chris! it's a beast beginner homeserver OS).
    This is cheaper and is a big step up in CPU performance out of the gate. Even without GPU acceleration it could easily become a homebrew netflix setup without making a peep of sound from cooling (the main downside of x86 boards is their noisiness and power draw imo). Looking forward to more RISC-V and ARM excellence this year!

  • @peterfrisch8373
    @peterfrisch8373 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Chris, I just have to tell you that you did not put apples in that GIMP project, but bell peppers.
    Also I am one that uses PoE to power my RPis, so I am most interested in SBCs that have that ability. I have seen that a number of DBC manufacturers say that their boards do have that ability, but do not specify the HAT/unit that will do it.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, peppers . . .

    • @TzaraDuchamp
      @TzaraDuchamp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bell peppers to paprikas to peppers, it's all apples to apples.

    • @OtterlyInsane
      @OtterlyInsane ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never have the apple pie at Chris'

  • @rootpotato
    @rootpotato ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent review, from the master . . . Thank you Dr. Chris!

  • @dang48
    @dang48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. They keep getting better.
    And when you mention Audacity, it reminded me of a project I did in college. We took a song, adapted it and I really like the result.

  • @liontuga155
    @liontuga155 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Chris. Very thorough, as always.

  • @maxdiamond55
    @maxdiamond55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Chris , really in depth review.
    Exactly what we like 👍🏿

  • @sylvainlathuy2702
    @sylvainlathuy2702 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own an Orange Pi 5. It is now November 2023 and I tested the following Linux images: Orange Pi OS, Debian, Ubuntu. Here is what I found out: None of these are 100% functional right after install. The best right now is the Debian because it is the most fluid interface with GPU acceleration properly enabled and it makes a huge difference on my 4K display. The best environment is XFce and best browser Chromium. Gnome and Firefox are painfully slow in comparison. I tested the power consumption: around 7W when browsing the web with many tabs and videos open. ~10 Watts when recording 2 HD streams (set at 15fps) from v4l USB 4K cameras with "motion" + watching youtube at the same time. Impressive! Perfectly usable as an every day computer if you are not afraid to fix a few configuration issues yourself...

  • @MobiusHorizons
    @MobiusHorizons ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very helpful video! I had been wondering how the orange pi 5 was so much cheaper than the Rock 5B, and your overview helps evaluate that difference. Thanks very much!

  • @climbeverest
    @climbeverest 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great hairstyle! What a lovable guy! Thanks! Love the knowledge you disseminate, I love your intonation!

  • @joeg3950
    @joeg3950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content. I look forward to your RPi Alternatives video. All the best!

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very cool. I was able to score a couple of those 16G versions on Amazon before they went out of stock a couple weeks ago. I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd review it!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mine got stuck in customs for about three weeks! But it arrived in the end.

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExplainingComputers Yeah, customs is always a pain!

  • @alanthornton3530
    @alanthornton3530 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Chris for the Rock Pi 5 video, it's an interesting board at a reasonable price & Ubuntu seemed to run well on it. At the end of the day it's all about the manufacturers support that makes or breaks it! I'm looking forward to seeing the revisit of Raspberry Pi 4 alternatives, a nice desktop replacement would make my day 😊.

  • @amcadam26
    @amcadam26 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Living near Cambridge, I want to support the raspberry Pi foundation by sticking with the "official" pi SBCs, but given they've messed around home users for so long now and not kept the technology up with demand, allowing competitors to pull ahead, my allegiance is sliding to any company that can provide good products and this one looks great.

    • @bossu2005
      @bossu2005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm done with RPIs - The $40 - $50 - $60 computer that costs you $200 by the time you buy all the things that a computer needs. Cases, heat sinks, fans, power supplies,a clock,a BIOS and bootloader that is accessible and visible and not secret/cryptic. E-Waste.

    • @joshuarowe8410
      @joshuarowe8410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bossu2005 you purchase a BIOS and bootloader?? This board costs $83 USD according to the video description as well so it's not like you're getting some super cheap device

    • @bossu2005
      @bossu2005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshuarowe8410 It is cheap in a way - junk

  • @Digithalis
    @Digithalis ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for demonstrating Captain! 🙂

  • @MicrobyteAlan
    @MicrobyteAlan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative review. It's so interesting to see all the different SBC's being tested. Thanks as always. 👍👍

  • @cliff_hewitt
    @cliff_hewitt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Painting some apples at 17:26. Awesome. 😉

  • @pondellojonez
    @pondellojonez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the review .

  • @mikefinn2101
    @mikefinn2101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nicely done I hope Raspberry Pi can catch up I am using the Pi-400 as my main computer and love it. I hope to upgrade soon. Like the keyboard and mouse combo.
    considering a Orange Pi. Thanks again for sharing I always enjoy watching your videos. can't wait for more.

  • @paullandry6573
    @paullandry6573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! Thanks Chris!

  • @OW79
    @OW79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you on the placement of that NVME connector, very counter intuitive and impractical!

  • @Urosaurus
    @Urosaurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are getting fast! Cheers.

  • @ncm0815
    @ncm0815 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great video as usual. Thank you your effort!
    I have one suggestion for a topic you could address in a separate video, and that is the difference between the interfaces for displays, cameras and other peripherals un SBCs. Or perhaps I overlooked a video from you on that topic?
    But it would be interesting so see the differences for example on display interfaces so one can find the right display for a project right away. the same goes for cameras. It doese not have to go in every detail, but I could not imagine anyone better that you for a general overview.

  • @aaroncisneros6044
    @aaroncisneros6044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the information

  • @JorgenHenningsen
    @JorgenHenningsen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought this product also and the one thing which impresses me is how cold it is running. I would very much like to see tests for the power usage.

  • @ChrisHalden007
    @ChrisHalden007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Thanks

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! Just had a coworker order one and do some investigation too, though more bleeding edge and graphics focused. Rather strange the Debian issue you had with Kdenlive... Might take a look when I likely get one for work purposes sooner or later.

  • @rigorobles3991
    @rigorobles3991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings and salutations from México, huge fan of the channel Chris, you always have the best reviews :)

  • @roberts.3712
    @roberts.3712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got mine up and running. A very promising board at a good price point. 😀

  • @nandingpanelo
    @nandingpanelo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. Happy new year

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What an interesting board. It gives me great hope for what might come to the market in 2023. Although as you say, the M.2 connector alignment is more than just unfortunate.
    Overall I agree, this is an impressive performance SBC - therefore an acceptable desktop. With that exception of no hardware graphics support under Linux. So far this is the Achilles heel on many boards/SoCs.
    Considering this Chris, when you are doing those Raspberry Pi 4 alternatives comparisons, please specifically test for this support.

    • @martinbone
      @martinbone ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Armbian is available for the Orange Pi 5 with GPU support. It might not be 100% finished ... but already works pretty well.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinbone Good to know. Thank you.

  • @MichaelOlsonJr
    @MichaelOlsonJr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review, I suggest adding some discussion of mainline kennel support. Most regrets people have with these boards are because they end up stuck with old releases and/or have flaky kernels.

  • @avejst
    @avejst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video as always 👍
    Good find

  • @seguramlk
    @seguramlk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, is the SBC scene looking good.
    Powered by 🐧
    Awesome video, Chris 👍

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Things in the SBC space are getting very interesting now. It won't be long, until there'll be maker boards with Cortex A77 and A78. These have enough performance for use as an every day PC :D

  • @AndrewJackson2000
    @AndrewJackson2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn...This is the most accurate tutorial on the entire platform on TH-cam...thank you Chris. (I especially writing with one S)

  • @domsau2
    @domsau2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect specs!

  • @IanRoss-dt1xg
    @IanRoss-dt1xg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    [17:30] They're not apples. They're green peppers

  • @ulrichcordes375
    @ulrichcordes375 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your demonstration of Orange PI 5. I have RebornOS installed on my PI4 (4G) and searched now a good replacement for my old laptop computer. Your Video helped me to decide to purchase a 8GB Orange PI 5 from AliExpress with a big cooling fan heat sink. I will try to install RebornOS, which is also available for the Orange PI 5 an will install it on a NVMe drive. Go on with you videos, I am impressed of your detailed work. Thank you 👍. Greeting from good (c)old Germany.

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely an interesting SBC. I'm glad you pointed out the differences between the RK3588 and the S version.

  • @peanut71968
    @peanut71968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good one, Chris! Cheers!

  • @novantha1
    @novantha1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting thought: Could you do a video on a simple ARM SBC cluster for code compilation, or perhaps common OpenCL tasks like blender renders? It would be a pretty affordable way to get a very efficient, fairly high core count system going, and is a probably not a huge jump in price once you've already got at least one SBC set up already.

  • @PeterJasper
    @PeterJasper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review of the Orange Pi 5 excellent RK3588S SBC ... very impressive and great that it has software support. I think you may have been painting green capsicums rather than apples in GIMP 🙂

  • @screamengine
    @screamengine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great little machine for a headless server/gateway! I think there will be a massive demand just for this purpose alone!

  • @m8hackr60
    @m8hackr60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello again, Chris!
    I really wish they'd integrated Wi-Fi, but I can understand that in many (probably most) cases, this is simply not required. It would have been nice to have a second M.2 for using both of NVMe and Wi-Fi.
    Looks like I have a board to get on order.
    Thank you for thorough review!

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of the best reviews of the Orange Pi 5 as you explained the difference between the RK3588 and slimmer S variant perfectly so thanks 👍 I hope to see a future review of the Rock 5A that was just announced with hope's it's as good if not better than the Pi 5...? 🤞

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for this feedback. The Rock 5A does indeed look like a great board that I will certainly look at on the channel. :) Due to ship Q2 2023 (which probably means Q2 or Q3 in today's world!).

  • @jaffarbh
    @jaffarbh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's really cool. It can be used as a web server or a file server for a home or a small office.

  • @sbc_tinkerer
    @sbc_tinkerer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew you would like this board. Some compromises but more than well worth the price.
    I'm not sure but at 17:28 those "apples" looked more like green peppers. :)
    Stay well my friend! Until next Sunday... I bid you adieu.

  • @vicmac3513
    @vicmac3513 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Finally a daily drive-ready sbc! Hopefully hospitals, schools etc are moving into these and nerds start building AIO's for their elders.
    Hopefully Risc V and RasPi can strike back before the end of the year.
    And pure quality video, as always!

    • @MartinBogomolni
      @MartinBogomolni ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If only it was at the CORRECT price point of a Pi4 4Gb/8Gb. I'd pay that. Cost effective replacement for a Pi4 for industrial computing would be very welcome.

    • @fredrik241
      @fredrik241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eben said they won't do a '5' this year but I think probably during 2024.
      Iv'e just ordered an Orange Pi 5 to tinker with.

    • @vicmac3513
      @vicmac3513 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I listened to his interview, but I just jope these other releases makes them to invest money for production. Hopefully CM4 comes back to stock before they're lost in competition too.
      Hopefully RasPi5 has Risc-V with in-house production in Wales.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MartinBogomolni Economies of scale only go so far. RPi and OPi aren't all _that_ far off on the price/performance curve, but it's a steep part of the curve. That said, if you're worried, just wait n*18 months and price will come down as much as you want.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would LOVE to see RISC-V take a big position in the MCU and SBC markets so we finally get some for-real OSHW. That, an open source GPU/NPU, and an open source FPGA. Plus toolchains. It's insane that x86's all run a whole second OS at the firmware level with absolutely no transparency whatsoever. That said, the real issue is OS/software support. Both at release and in future years. Raspberry Pi has been brilliant about supporting even their legacy hardware for a very long time. I'll take a hit in performance or pay a little more in price, but the moment you need your own developers just to keep existing stuff working, it starts being more cost effective to dump the whole thing and switch to a better-supported platform.

  • @WalterW
    @WalterW ปีที่แล้ว +20

    SBCs just keep getting better. One of my goals is to have all my computers as SBCs. So far about half of them are.
    Thanks for bringing all the wonderful information on SBCs!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A cool goal. :)

    • @WalterW
      @WalterW ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExplainingComputers thank you. The big one will be my FX and compositing computer.

  • @voodooyam
    @voodooyam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty amazing board!

  • @keithmiller9665
    @keithmiller9665 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Chris, interesting video. Nice to see Kdenlive working in Ubuntu. Definitely worth considering. Lack of GPU hardware video encoding / decoding (e.g. h264) is a problem.

    • @NJHewitt
      @NJHewitt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      HW decoding is available. Chromium, Kodi, vlc and mpv etc, all perfectly smooth after installing a gpu driver, which wasn't done in this video.
      Encoding... is technically available, but the makers don't officially support ffmpeg, apparently due to some licence reason. They want users to use gstreamer 🤢
      h265 and h264 real time encoding do work, but i'll wait til a community solution comes up and I can pipe to ffmpeg, and not wrestle with gstreamer.

  • @zbigniewkrajewski7536
    @zbigniewkrajewski7536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I waited quite abit of time to see Mr Scissors back in action on Your channel, thank you mr Chris :) I wonder about that 16gb variant of Orange Pi, thats alot ram for sbc :O

  • @jayodea503
    @jayodea503 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks a nice board! I have just preordered the 16gb ram version and it cost less than a 4gb RPi4. happy days!

  • @wertperch
    @wertperch ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Chris, I enjoy your content, always have. But given the seemingly unending numbers of SBCs, I'd love to see more on what their advantages might be. This one for example, has 6 NPUs and is dripping with monitor and camera interfaces and I'd love to hear your thoughts as to *why* the architects of the system have gone down this route. Even better would be a simple demonstration of specific capabilities of a particular board.
    As it stands these presentations are getting predictable and even a little dull to me. I' feel you're missing out on explanations if you're not digging a little deeper into some board specifics such as the *use* of the board.

    • @ThePantygun
      @ThePantygun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Expecting something else is a waste of time when it says NPU.

  • @energymarketchile
    @energymarketchile ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, as usual...

  • @MrMesospheric
    @MrMesospheric ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 4A power supply requirement for SBCs is a bit of a shot in the foot; it makes things considerably more difficult for field use off a 5V USB battery. Lovely video, as always.

    • @billkelly6981
      @billkelly6981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am powering my orange pi 5 with the official raspberry pi power supply and it is fine. There is a card in the orange pi 5 box that says do not use a power supply over 2 amps

    • @pieterhartman-66
      @pieterhartman-66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe it is an idea to include some power consumption tests in the compaison?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      To be honest, even my Raspberry pi 3a+ is sometimes going over 4A, although only in short spikes and i have it overclocked to 1,5GHz... Would rather have higher power input than brown outs...

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:39 - I really appreciate this warning (in addition to the whole video).

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks good. It's interesting they have a 16MGB option.

  • @juanignacioaschura9437
    @juanignacioaschura9437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of all people, YOU kind sir were the only one who bothered to tell the differences between the two Rockchip RK3588 variants. Not even handheld gaming console tech TH-camrs were able to report on this, and other Linux channels that covered the FydeTab Duo also omitted the details. Thank you so so much.

  • @neilthomas6042
    @neilthomas6042 ปีที่แล้ว

    An interesting video, I’ve seen the Orange Pi in AliExpress and wondered what it was like and you gave an answer. Been caught out on a couple of items on AliExpress, so a bit wary of buying stuff on the site. If I do get some extra cash, I could buy one in the future.

  • @qzorn4440
    @qzorn4440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered 1 orange pi 5 to run some astronomy software that works on the raspberry pi 4. Mmm. Now for a touch-screen and case. Then deal with the nuisance Bluetooth Wi-Fi issue maybe by March when it is to be delivered orange pi will have the rest of the product accessories. 🤔 thank you and nice benchmark info.

  • @123anonymous456
    @123anonymous456 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @ExplainingComputers: Given the current energy price hikes, it would be *very interesting* to see the typical required wattage for different systems (both when idle and under heavy load), especially since you already have _numerous_ (similar) SBC to compare!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! I did a video on energy use more broadly (including some SBCs) last year -- with relatively little interest: th-cam.com/video/rGUnsiivqeU/w-d-xo.html

  • @JudgeD-hc9vw
    @JudgeD-hc9vw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes.....Mr Scissors always makes a video better.....

  • @zakaria-_1154
    @zakaria-_1154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    اشتقت لفديوهاتك القديمة في بداياتك❤💙💙
    old subscriber
    thank's for all your explaining

  • @Promilus1984
    @Promilus1984 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    OrangePi 4 was already using RK3399 with decent support but was kind of overgrown, Opi5 just fits nicely, has great support, great performance and all-round features for fairly inexpensive ARM SBC. Turning attention towards Rockchip which has fairly good Linux support (instead of Allwinner which only has decent Android support) was a way to go. Those guys learned their lessons. I'm with Orange Pi boards since their OrangePi Zero series (which was very cheap but had to wait few years to get proper linux support for H2+). Made one detour with NanoPi M4 (as waiting for OPi to support RK3399 was taking too long and the result wasn't what I expected). But it seems I might be all way back to OrangePi with RK3588S.

  • @ffieditor
    @ffieditor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i real like this board. I don't like there no BT or missing Network but it still a well built made SBC. made the top 100 again!

  • @voneschenbachmusic
    @voneschenbachmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good performance - seems like the first ~80$ SBC that has good 1080p playback.

    • @stefanp4258
      @stefanp4258 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong!
      It just needs careful optimized software and drivers to use all the potential of cheap SBC's hardware video decoder. Some mediaplayer distributions do that very well, like libreelec, or coreelec.

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nobody send Christopher a picture of a green bell pepper, it’ll blow his mind. 😄

  • @FroggyTWrite
    @FroggyTWrite ปีที่แล้ว +4

    there are drivers out now that allow for gpu acceleration which makes a big difference

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe so, but they are not included in the software images made available by the manufacturer of the board.

    • @LeonardoMuttoni
      @LeonardoMuttoni ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be nice to make another video testing this new GPU driver.

  • @farazhassan6417
    @farazhassan6417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely, I have already an Orange PI 5 with 16G & Armbian on NVME, already set to replace with X86 Desktop . . .

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, I must try out Armbian on this board.

    • @gern0tk
      @gern0tk ปีที่แล้ว

      How about GPU acceleration on Armbian?

    • @johnvijver3815
      @johnvijver3815 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armbian got also updated i see a new image file.

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah man my favorite day and it's about a mini computer a Orange Pi 5 have a nice week

  • @brianwood5220
    @brianwood5220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Chris. I know where not playing spot the difference, but the item you pictured @ 17:28 was a Green Pepper (Not an apple). Ha Ha. These comparisons are really helpful. Thanks for sharing

  • @IppodoTea327
    @IppodoTea327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always like the blue color motherboard.

  • @MCallsen
    @MCallsen ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much :)

  • @pasqualesorrentino4472
    @pasqualesorrentino4472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Believe it or not, in the exact moment the video came out, I was searching for a video about this board

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spooky!

    • @Furzkampfbomber
      @Furzkampfbomber ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do I have the X-Files melody stuck in my head now? Well, at least it comes along with a mental image of Scully. :)

  • @1George2
    @1George2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool SBC! may be now with better SW support as well....