Try sleeving vinyl records this way and you will never go back

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  • I got a question from a viewer, asking my why I sleeve vinyl records the way I do. Here is the explanation.
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  • @paulb111
    @paulb111 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The main thing I don't like about having the record on the outside of the jacket is, you don't get to see the back cover art.

  • @davidbindert
    @davidbindert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Some may take exception to this but I have always felt the vinyl belongs in the jacket (it is there to protect the vinyl), inner sleeve opening facing up and outer clear sleeve facing up. Unless you’re a DJ easy access shouldn’t be an issue, the added steps to remove the record are just part of the ritual of vinyl record listening.

    • @DC-xx4kv
      @DC-xx4kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve made adjustments that are based on the protective clear sleeve sliding partially off like Frank showed. You have a good point however as yes that’s the design and process of playing records. Yet it’s okay to see if we can improve as we go. But a point well taken. ☮️

    • @mercurialmagictrees
      @mercurialmagictrees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The big exception for me is if I have old jackets that have seam splits/wear. I prefer to have the record outside because I don't want to damage it further.

    • @MetalSamantha
      @MetalSamantha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It can be difficult to get the record in and out, though, and it can cause needless damage to the sleeve

    • @antstep1030
      @antstep1030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I do it to protect against seam splits and ring wear. I stored my LPs in the jackets until I started noticing rings on the sleeves of records I bought just 5 years ago.

    • @mercurialmagictrees
      @mercurialmagictrees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antstep1030 oh wow that's a bummer, I'm surprised. It might be due to the pressure of so many on the same shelf too. I thought plastic outer sleeves prevented that.

  • @Distance-Productions
    @Distance-Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is why I wish record covers would open from the top instead of the side. You would be able to use a sleeve, keep the records inside the jacket, and still see the artist/album on the spine when put on the shelf. It just makes so much more sense!

    • @Spock105
      @Spock105 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a few of such albums ( Stone Flower from Antonio Carlos Jobim f.i. ) . But then you can have situations when pulling it out of the shelf that through friction between the plastic covers ....it slides out ....unless you have high quality plastic covers that are very tight.

  • @nick_vee
    @nick_vee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I’m kind if a traditionalist. Inner sleeve (Diskeeper 2.0 from Sleeve City) holds the record with the opening on the top and that plus any lyric sheets or custom lyric inner sleeves goes into the outer sleeve. Then the whole package slides into the outer sleeve with the opening on top to prevent the album from slipping out the side on the shelf as you showed. I don’t mind pulling out the jacket to get to the record and storing everything in the jacket protects the whole package, plus I can enjoy the back of the jacket since it’s not being covered by the record. I feel the front and back artwork needs to be enjoyed as a whole.

    • @joet_swbo101
      @joet_swbo101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the same sleeve and album protectors. Love sleeve city. The best IMHO.

    • @bradt.3555
      @bradt.3555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree with putting record back in sleeve. The idea of the record being exposed bothered me the first time I saw that method. The first outer plastic I ever used I realized the opening needed to be at the top.

    • @davidbarnes3232
      @davidbarnes3232 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vinyl Storage Solutions dual pocket is the way to go. I changed all my sleeves including Sleeve City over to VSS. Keeps the jacket and the record separate with both sealed to protect them

  • @cedricsimonakafrozenjazz
    @cedricsimonakafrozenjazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My collection is really small.. but when I started to get some interest in vinyls, and bought my first turntable, it appeared that most enthusiasts (like yourself :) ) enjoyed this method, so I tried it and loved it. :)

  • @chriswitt202
    @chriswitt202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The main reason I don’t store my record in the original outer sleeve is to reduce ring wear

  • @ThatVinylChannel
    @ThatVinylChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have the outer sleeves the same way for the same reason with the opening facing up however I keep any special inner sleeve (like with lyrics) inside the cover to protect it. The record goes in a plastic inner sleeve as you have but I turn opening on its side instead of leaving it facing up like the outer sleeve. Dust gets into the record inner sleeve if you leave the opening facing up.

  • @machiel5888
    @machiel5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for explaining your reasoning! At first I thought it made no sense, but then I realized you were preventing the sleeve from slipping, which I hate! Now I'm going to do the same!

  • @danamellerio5833
    @danamellerio5833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a great idea! Since I’m just beginning my collection, I’m still operating out of boxes so it’s much easier to retrieve albums with the outer sleeve opening at the top. I will take the advice of several here and store the inner album sleeve with the opening on the right. Since my collection is small, this will be an easy new habit to create.

  • @tca83
    @tca83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just ordered the double pocket sleeves and the gatefold sleeves with rice paper inner sleeves for my small collection. Thank you for showing your method of storing the records.

  • @stephenjerome4135
    @stephenjerome4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting video Frank. I too had the same issue when storing my record jackets in the sleeves with the open ends matching. Good for convenience to take the vinyl out of the covers but it was a real pain when the sleeves would slip off while sliding them onto the shelves. So I now insert the record jacket in with the open end inside and the outer sleeve opening at the top. It solved the issue perfectly. Great video Frank.

  • @royceinthehouse842
    @royceinthehouse842 ปีที่แล้ว

    So right about sleeve placement. I've switched mine over to the opening on top.

  • @sascha3036
    @sascha3036 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i recently started collecting vinyl and these entertaining videos have helped me a lot to keep my collection in order. I have so far almost exclusively German hip-hop in my collection and own only about 10 albums but it is still a nice hobby to listen to his favorite music :)

  • @douggordon9225
    @douggordon9225 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have adopted this method for my vinyl collection and it has made my life much easier. It also eliminated bunching on corners which slowed down insertion or if someone else not putting away properly.

  • @andyshacks7812
    @andyshacks7812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I put my records in the cover/jacket then slide the cover vertically into the outer sleeve. I find it helps keep a lot of dust off my records. Very interesting video Frank. I’m going to give your way a try too. Thanks 🙏

  • @Fran-rc9dd
    @Fran-rc9dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first I wasnt so sure about it.But Now I have switch my vinyl storage method,it now looks better and more easy to get record out.And Showing off diffrent pressings are another benefit.

  • @psychedelicpunkster6840
    @psychedelicpunkster6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers Frank im glad someone questioned you on outter sleeve storage , interesting topic. I to store my lps in that fashion. I top load my lps in the outter sleeve just as you do , and the vinyl is stored with the inner sleeve behind the cover as you were demonstrating. Makes life easier with easy access to your lps. Not only protecting cover from wear and tear every time you pull the record out it protects your LP from the dreaded paper sleeves And wring wear i think its the professional way to protect precious record collections

  • @themasterjinn
    @themasterjinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have adopted this method myself, it has made my life so much easier. I have only just started buying records after nearly 40+ years. I have to say with the advent of CD / DVD / Blu-Ray audio one can (With the right equipment) can get a true studio experience. Though buying Bat out of Hell & Bad for Good on LP versus the CD format was satisfying. With the full sized art & lyric sheets in my hands, I feel vary connected to the music.

  • @joekoesters3463
    @joekoesters3463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I store on shelves versus bins, I like the sleeve opening up top to eliminate the slipping off as you demonstrated. I do like the VSS double
    Pocket sleeves for their clarity and the additional pocket. Now I just need to make time to clean and sleeve all of my vinyl. #SetGoals

  • @davidruff8574
    @davidruff8574 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is totally how I store mine, and it came about the same way. I started with them sleeved to side, but had the same issue with it sliding off. When I changed to the top load method, it made my storage so much better.
    I haven't tried the double pocket sleeve yet, but I'm definitely going to look into them now. Just as long as they are polyethylene and not pvc.

  • @grahambiggs9822
    @grahambiggs9822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I only used to cover the album cover with a protective cover. Since watching Channel 33 RPM, I copy your method now and use the inner sleeves as well. Particularly good at protecting those inner paper sleeves with the lyrics and notes !! I've learnt plenty from this channel !! thank you !!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Graham! I'm glad you found value in the vids. Cheers.

  • @kana4114
    @kana4114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your tips. I’ve learned over time to use the album jacket to store the record while pointing the opening of the inner sleeve upward (not open to the opening of the jacket). Then, as you’ve shown, I outer-sleeve the jacket upward so it is easier to put the whole item in a cubby or a storage box.
    It also gives me peace of mind that the inner-sleeved record will not inadvertently slide out while handling the whole unit.

  • @vinylrecordplayer
    @vinylrecordplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Monster tip here, brother. I have been battling the crappy dust cover bunching for quite a while. Great stuff!

  • @elvisway1
    @elvisway1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your suggestion for putting the album in with the opening at the top is a top priority! I've been doing it that way for years.

  • @woodfireguitar
    @woodfireguitar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been “top loading” for a few years. I don’t separate the vinyl like you do, but so much easier to slide the LP’s in and out of the shelf. It drove me nuts too!

  • @virgilseaman9786
    @virgilseaman9786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember you addressed this issue many videos ago as I took your recommendation to heart and re-sleeved all of my LPs over time (550+ LPs).

  • @beatleman69
    @beatleman69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use to run into that where my plastic outer sleeve would slide off as you shelve them. I also top load my albums and my double albums as well. This is good advice.

  • @MrNevilleRandom
    @MrNevilleRandom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the dual pocket sleeves and I put every vinyl I have in them and I keep extras on hand for when I get new ones

  • @yungvarg2301
    @yungvarg2301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna thank you so much for putting me onto this method of storing records

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to be of assistance.

  • @mat.b.
    @mat.b. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question: By having the sleeve & record on the rear, have you noticed any ring wear against the front of the record behind it? With this method it sticks out more and then has a circle pressing against a flat cover, versus having the record inside the cover

  • @tompatchak8706
    @tompatchak8706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do this. Took the time to do all my records. Haven’t had any problems

  • @derekpye4141
    @derekpye4141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome video! I've been sleeving this way for years too Frank, I find it better for the reasons you have mentioned. One other thing I do by habit now is turn the inner sleeve 90 degrees so the opening is to either side preventing dust from settling in the inner sleeve!

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point on turning the record 90 degrees. I try to do this when I remember, but old habits die hard :)

    • @batman.darthmaul
      @batman.darthmaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I put the opening to the outer sleeve on the left-hand side so no dust can get to the jacket or anything else.

    • @BlondeReaganite
      @BlondeReaganite ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do the same thing.. That way dust doesn't get in from the top 👍

    • @batman.darthmaul
      @batman.darthmaul ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlondeReaganite Exactly.

  • @drekskater74
    @drekskater74 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my god! You just made my day!! Now I have to go home and re-sleve al my records…

  • @Jay-ow8rm
    @Jay-ow8rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frank because of your channel,I now use the Vinyl storage solution sleeves for my Prince vinyl,they look great👍🇬🇧

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome. Glad to hear!

  • @cardnut
    @cardnut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vinyl Storage Solutions are the best. They are the only ones I use. Thanks Frank!

  • @LeighStLouis
    @LeighStLouis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just coming across your video now but I too got sick of the sleeves sliding off and changed to this same sleeves up way. Super convenient for me as well. Cheers!

  • @brandxreviews
    @brandxreviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the exact same issue and came up with the exact same solution. Great video man... been following you since 2015.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2015!!!! Wow!!! Thanks for sticking around!

  • @darrens7040
    @darrens7040 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vinyl Storage solutions are awesome his solutions work perfectly the gatefold is awesome Ive had 2 deliveries now down here in Australia and I can't fault the quality or the service.

  • @zeprls
    @zeprls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have been enjoying records since the 70’s and never used outer sleeves. I find storage or lack there of or mis-treatment is the biggest cause of wear and tear not lack of an outer sleeve.

    • @BlondeReaganite
      @BlondeReaganite ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you wash your hands everytime you touch the sleeve you are getting oils and dirt from your hands that are wearing on your sleeves.. If you don't collect records and just listen to them or doesn't matter but having the least amount wear to the sleeve is part of the value of the record.. To keep the value you must protect the sleeve

  • @jimb2416
    @jimb2416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Frank as usual again. I'm beginning to store my records the last way you mentioned. Vinyl Storage Solutions actually had a nice sale on this weekend so I placed another order for more inner and outer sleeves as well as some record dividers. I've been searching for some inexpensive ones for a while now. While these ones are not cheap the sale made them a deal.
    Keep on spinning Frank 👍

  • @geraldchristensen2826
    @geraldchristensen2826 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The major reason records are shipped outside the jacket, especially with used, is to prevent seam splits on the jacket, or keep them from getting worse during transit. As far as how you choose to store your records, that's entirely up to you, It's OK to shelve inside the jackets, and it's OK not to use an outer sleeve around the jacket. Just NEVER use PVC sleeves or album covers, they will destroy your records. The PVC modified to be transparent and flexible will migrate to the surface of the stable PVC LP surface and leave permanent splotches, streaks and "stains" that can not be cleaned away. The PVC sleeves can bubble, wrinkle and glue themself to the jacket. Sometimes a damaged record will play through, but that's rare. Suspect any used record in "plastic" sleeves. If there is a smell of "fruit" or petroleum (VOC's, or volatile organic compounds), then you most likely have PVC. Use only ARCHIVAL types of material. Responsible sellers of LP storage products will state, or respond to an inquiry, that their products are archival quality. I use a record cleaning system (not the same as cleaning for play, maybe once or twice a year deep clean) and replace the inner sleeve at every cleaning with archival paper or non PVC poly products labeled as archival. enjoy the vinyl life

  • @Missy_Dawling
    @Missy_Dawling ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy peazy 🥰 i store mine this this too :) super convenient for listening😀

  • @JimmyV1530
    @JimmyV1530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frank you're a genius!! 🙂 I say that because I store all my vinyl the same way as you do 😉

  • @russputin6294
    @russputin6294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to schoolboy science dust and dirt, the traditional scourge of vinyl records and the very substances we are using a vinyl cover as protection against, will fall vertically, straight into the upwards facing opening and into the pocket now formed by the plastic covering sleeve. Cold, hard fact. Just rotate the vinyl cover on the sleeve 180 degrees from the traditional position (or 90 degrees anti-clockwise from where you have it)and you have, in combination with the jacket spline, an almost hermetic seal that won't slide off when inserting records onto your shelf. Perfect. Granted. you have extra effort to remove the sleeve to access the record but that's cheaper than a gym membership

  • @VMX1.
    @VMX1. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sleeves from VSS....great episode Frank. All the best and be safe.

  • @batman.darthmaul
    @batman.darthmaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mother had a small vinyl collection with all the jacket protectors facing up, like shown here. It sat like that in a box for years (no lid) and dust got into the protective sleeves because of the top opening, and it wasn't just a tiny bit, either. For that reason, I orient all my outer sleeves with the opening on the left.

  • @gilbycoyote
    @gilbycoyote 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I adopted the record behind the sleeve since you randomly mentioned it on another video, it’s the best. I store the inner sleeves opening to the side though. I found outer sleeves on german amazon that are big enough to accommodate a two disc album, but i have two three disc albums that i did not find a solution yet.

  • @junkyardvinyl4811
    @junkyardvinyl4811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I typically put my record back in the sleeve with the outer protective sleeve pointed up. However if it is a 50’s or early 60’s (and some later) sleeve I will store with the record out as those early sleeves are tighter and more susceptible to seam splitting while trying to stuff a record with a latter day inner sleeve.

  • @troyhenry447
    @troyhenry447 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use crates to get that record store flipping feel when I’m looking for something to listen to and I see the art instead of spines on a shelf. Because of how I flip through them and how they have a little bit of a lean in the crates, I keep my records inside the static sleeves inside of the album jacket, to keep the record protected while flipping through them and to also keep the jackets from getting crushed. I just pull the outer sleeve off and put it back on sideways so I can slide the records out of the jacket. Those nice paper backed inner sleeves allow them to slide in and out pretty smoothly

  • @jameschant2740
    @jameschant2740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got a great system for storing your records Frank. Your records and the jackets got a better chance to be free of things like ring-worm scaring. Those top quality sleeves will avoid paper decay issues that could harm the jacket and record. Unfortunately my own collection isn't as well maintained. A driver behind it was that less plastic and there's more space on the stand so I didn't use outer-jacket sleeves. I do have the same inner sleeves as yours though because they're top notch.

  • @Kalprog
    @Kalprog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always been a traditionalist when it comes to vinyl storage, having the album and sleeve in the dust jacket with the poly bag opening at the top. I always have enough room in each storage module to get my whole hand in. Packing too tight is never good a thing and having too big of a lean is also a potential warping issue. If you alphabetize it also helps to have spare space available for those inevitable new additions instead of constant shifting. It's good to see that there have been advances like gatefold and oversize poly bags to accommodate double and even triple albums, something that didn't exist when I was a kid just getting into vinyl. 👍

    • @Ross1966
      @Ross1966 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know other collectors new to the he hobby have started storing their records this way. I’m not crazy about having the record outside the sleeve other than for shipping purposes.

  • @ExplosiveAction
    @ExplosiveAction 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I house mine 'traditional' but with the opening at the top, and use crystal clear Blake sleeves which make the art pop. This solves the slip issue you demonstrated, but I still keep everything inside the LP jacket so that I can see the rear cover without removing the record. I use round botter inner sleeves, but I imagine if I had square bottom ones like yours I would do what you do.

  • @spaztekwarrior
    @spaztekwarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tip for the dual pocket vinyls sleeves here in Canada 🇨🇦
    Will check it out and get some :)

  • @richardanderson1484
    @richardanderson1484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again Frank for a great video. I learned this from you many months ago. Boy it was a lot of fun taking all my albums and converting them to your method. The only thing I do different is the opening of the inner sleeve, I make sure mine is not up but to the side I guess because a dust. Please keep up the great videos I always look forward to Sunday.

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good tip Richard. Thanks for watching!

  • @MauriceHotblack
    @MauriceHotblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started buying records over 40+ years ago. I always used a clear outer sleeve. You could only get much thicker sleeves in the old days and they never slid off. They're still available but admittedly at a premium price compared to the very thin ones.

  • @MykeWinters
    @MykeWinters 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I personally use the duel pockets and those inner sleeves you use for those that aren’t factory sealed and the resealable ones for the factory sealed. So far after years, I have not had any issues with my vinyl collection. It’s beautiful, love touching them and looking at them…oh and of course I love the music on them 🙂🤘

    • @reaperofburgers
      @reaperofburgers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just started collecting (only have 9 atm) but I immediately started with the dual pockets and I have to say I love it, I'm mostly collecting for me and I want my jackets to stay pristine, so for me they were a no brainer

    • @MykeWinters
      @MykeWinters 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reaperofburgers Hey there, 9, thats ok, we all start from somewhere. I bet they are 9 good ones. Which ones do you have? Wish you all the best in your collecting adventure. I started with a cassette of Deep purple, then my boss gave me his Deep Purple "Machine Head" first press and it went from there, a cassette and an album :)

    • @reaperofburgers
      @reaperofburgers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MykeWinters I've got
      All That Remains - The Fall of Ideals
      AVOID - Cult Mentality (Coloured)
      The Devil Wears Prada - Color Decay (Limited Tour Edition) (Coloured)
      Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
      Linkin Park - Meteora
      Nickelback - All the Right Reasons
      Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
      Zebrahead - II EP (Signed) (Coloured) and
      Zebrahead - III EP (Coloured)
      So far I'm a big fan of coloured vinyl which might end up being my main collecting point in the future.

  • @passqualecaiazza7728
    @passqualecaiazza7728 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your old way. See my over 2000 records are in crates. Either on 4 desk or on rolling carts that slide under the desk. This way I go through records like you do in record stores. You fan through them. Plus I have dividers between different kinds of music or record labels. It is what works for me

  • @norrieclark5217
    @norrieclark5217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got some like that if they are hard to stuff in sleeve or if the sleeve is split but I prefer it the "normal" way so you can see the track list without pulling the record

  • @jamieingram4998
    @jamieingram4998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Frank. After seeing the sealable dual pocket sleeves from VSS, I have been changing my collection over. He owes you some free product from all the business you threw his way....lol. I haven't seen anything I like for my gatefolds. Thanks for sharing and keep on spinnin....

  • @bradt.3555
    @bradt.3555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny from the day I started using outer plastic sleeves on some stuff I never even thought of matching opening. Alway's put opening at top. I figured less dust could get inside the jacket too. I have quite q few RCA Living Stereo LP's that were my Gramp's that he got when he got RCA's first stereo console. Around 1958. They spent most of their lives in a paper sleeve in the jacket, no outer plastic and the ones that weren't played to death still sound like NEW.

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I generally do this. I either use an outer sleeve where I can or need it, otherwise I just leave the shrink wrap, then bung the inner sleeve outside the cover but within the outer sleeve. And I've done this for years and it absolutely saves a few things. It keeps inadvertent scratches down (I also use a vaccum cleaner - an Okki Nokki) and it stop wear and tear on the sleeve.
    Basically, I find it to be easy to access and easy to keep things pristine as you can and easily so.

  • @TheMrMoosy
    @TheMrMoosy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Mylar for 80% of my records. When you go to slide a record into the shelf, the outer sleeve doesn't slide off. The sleeves (not cheap) are made of polyester and are more rigid than polypropylene/polyethylene. A little tight for gatefolds but I've never damaged any of my jackets. Mylar sleeves allow me to keep the opening on the side and therefore keep my records free of dust particles. Mylar also lets outer album artwork truly shine, it is actually stunning. I've had quality issues with the pricey gatefold sleeves that you discussed in your video and I can't stand the sealable or resealable products, I've had issues with those as well. I've recently tried the MOFI outer sleeves and love them, the value for money is hard to beat.

  • @paulf.5261
    @paulf.5261 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also wondered about this myself 😁👍
    Love that Black Sabbath and Bohren album ❤❤

  • @JorgeBarraza
    @JorgeBarraza หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice! Thanks. You just gave me a new project to kill some hours with. Re-sleeving all my records! 🙏😆

  • @brunogolsen2302
    @brunogolsen2302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kind of do it this way too, though I started a while ago only to use gatefold outer sleeves, even for non-gatefold jackets and single record albums. Then the one "pocket" of the gatefold sleeve is used for the jacket, the other for the record and if there's lyrics on the original inner sleeve it goes there as well. Otherwise the original inner sleeve goes back into the jacket empty

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting way of doing it. I never thought of this.

  • @SiloSoundStudios
    @SiloSoundStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats how ive done my collection, so therefore, you are correct.

  • @glennsmusicchannel
    @glennsmusicchannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never gotten over the personal need to keep the record itself inside the jacket. I'll usually keep lyric sheets and printed inner sleeves inside as well, but if that gives the jacket any stress, I remove those and keep them outside of the jacket. I've dedicated new outer sleeves just to interior items, particularly with multi-record sets.
    This may drive some folks crazy, but I also place the record so that you can slide it right out of the jacket without having to move much of the inner protective sleeve. The outer sleeve always points up, so the record doesn't come out until the outer sleeve is removed. I love this because then I can just remove the outer sleeve and put the record on quickly. I also like being able to handle the jackets and read all the details on them. There's something about the tactile experience. I want to know what material they used to make the jackets, because that's sometimes part of the album experience.
    Great idea for a video.

  • @timotheous2815
    @timotheous2815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have always sleeved my records behind the jacket. It protects the jacket from seam splitting ring wear, edge wear etc. If you have outer protective sleeves that aren't baggy and fit the sleeve properly you don't need to drop in vertically, its also better at creating a dust proof seal between the opening of the mofi or whatever archival inner sleeve from dust if you slide them in sideways. I invested in a large amount of protective sleeves and mofi inners quite some years ago and re sleeved my whole collection (2500 ish at the time) I now have a stock of them and everything that comes in gets cleaned, listened to and sleeved up then filed into the collection.

    • @BlondeReaganite
      @BlondeReaganite ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do that exactly the same way.. No dust ever gets in you Mofi sleeves when you turn then sideways 👍 wish more people knew that

  • @STEVEHEROLD
    @STEVEHEROLD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thumbs up for vinyl copy of Your Filthy Little Mouth in back. I love that record got it on vinyl as well back in my VH/Dave collecting days. You’re braver than me though, I never even picked up Diamond Dave on CD much less that new vinyl that was released.

  • @johnworthington8996
    @johnworthington8996 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also load it from the top. I keep everything inside the jacket so I can get a visual of the front and back of the album.

  • @MsSmokestack
    @MsSmokestack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Frank. Hello from Texas. I do prefer to keep my record inside the sleeve so I can see the back and it protects the record. On really old ones I'll put it on the outside to prevent splitting. I do like your idea of the opening on the top though cuz that does really bug me where it bunches up as you slide it in. For some reason I never thought of that but now that's what I'm going to do. Thanks

  • @happyhippythevinylguy
    @happyhippythevinylguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll learn this trip from you about 4 years ago and that's how I store all my albums... It does make it super easier! Now I do have about one crate of Records maybe more better not slaved anyway because the covers were beat up anyway because I'm not sure when I keep the albums...lol. Great video Frank

    • @Channel33RPM
      @Channel33RPM  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense, Rod. Not every album needs a sleeve. I have some beat up ones as well.

  • @NoWaveVideo
    @NoWaveVideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vinyl storage solutions products are amazing!

  • @brianlewis5042
    @brianlewis5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Frank. I just order some more sleeves from Vinyl Storage Solutions. I use the dual pocket type. As a matter of fact I just ordered some more. I a pinch, I also have the MoFi outer sleeves also.

  • @kevinvitale8980
    @kevinvitale8980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!!!

  • @mikeyhodge6191
    @mikeyhodge6191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do this too! Much more convenient, especially for albums that have multiple LP's

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a "bulk lot" of Mo-fi sleeves for my entire collection, use the vertical outer sleeve method and use an anti-friction treatment on my records.

  • @rickdrake9850
    @rickdrake9850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frank, I put my LPs into upgraded inner sleeves if they don't come in them. These go back in the jacket. I want the jacket to provide protection to the LP. I put them in outer sleeves with the opening at the spine. This is the best way I found to keep dust out and not have any issues with the outer sleeve slipping as I insert into it’s shelf spot. All my albums are arranged in the order they are listed in my Discogs database.

  • @Fuddyface
    @Fuddyface 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vinyl storage solutions all the way thanks to this channel. All my records are duel pocket when applicable.

  • @michaelproctor8777
    @michaelproctor8777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there Frank, Greetings from the U.K. What you say in your video makes sense. Also, you should add that your outer album cover doesn't get damaged as much if you put the vinyl behind. I have a lot of old second hand vinyl and have some sleeve's that are a little worn due to age and how previous owners have stored and used them. I try my best to preserve the records that I have, as some are very hard to replace now.
    As always, keep up the good work.

  • @rickjett6538
    @rickjett6538 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First very informative video I've always stored my records with the vinyl inside and outside protector jacket up where the whole album does not slide out still do I love the double gatefold protector that's awesome by the way need that CJ Ramone album lol

  • @megadisc1991
    @megadisc1991 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's the best way to make a (ring)wears on non-laminated/not-shirinked back cover!

  • @stevenimeson902
    @stevenimeson902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep on spinnin' frank!

  • @nigeltaylor8041
    @nigeltaylor8041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi just seen this video and I found it helpful and I'm thinking of doing the seem for my one disc vinyl. A question I have is can it cause a crushing of the outer sleeve because the record isn't in it ?

  • @Rick_Schott
    @Rick_Schott 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use two outer sleeves. First one goes on with opening facing away from the spine, then the second goes over that with opening facing up. Allows the record plus inner sleeve to slide in behind the jacket between outer sleeve layers.

  • @helgar791
    @helgar791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the Vinyl Storage Solution double pocket resealables. I then place my record into rice paper, put the record into a plain white record cover, then place the record into the back pocket of the Vinyl Storage Solution outer sleeve. This way I can clearly see the record cover without ever having to touch it again, while the record itself is doubly protected. I also use Sleeve City's Ultimate Inner Sleeve, which are easily the best rice paper sleeves on the market. None other comes close.

  • @stevebiesiadabada6669
    @stevebiesiadabada6669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video frank,I sleeve my records as you do, I’ve seen the gate fold sleeve but didn’t know where to purchase them, but you say they are expensive maybe I’ll buy a few, question, how would I sleeve box sets? Thank You , Steve

  • @toddswisher
    @toddswisher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My record shelves are similar to yours and the outer poly always does that! So annoying! I am going to start storing mine like this with the opening on top, etc. It'll be a fantastic change! Thx!

  • @baronsaturday951
    @baronsaturday951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Frank, with time, do you prefer dual pocket outer sleeves resealable or with tuckable flap ? Great video and channel for vinyl lovers !

  • @kevystead
    @kevystead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sleeve my records like that too Frank. It cut's down on ring wear of the jacket :)

  • @bigedhaaheo
    @bigedhaaheo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aloha Frank,
    Thanks for sharing how you use your vinyl protector sleeves And the reasons behind them.
    I also do the same that way I don't have ring wear on my jackets & definitely easy access and those rice paper sleeves really are great.
    I used to purchase mofi brand sleeves, but I found that Hudson, has their own and they're very inexpensive if you buy them in bulk. I need to check out that double compartment sleeve your showing, as for my outer sleeves used to used 3 mil sleeves not when I can get them I'll buy 4 mil outer sleeves.
    Thanks again Frank for another interesting video.
    Looking forward to seeing your next video.
    Mahalo Ed

  • @jayurban8282
    @jayurban8282 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use 12 5/8 clear plastic sleeves for single albums and small gatefolds. For double albums and larger gatefolds I use 12 15/16 plastic sleeves. I also remove the record from its original printed inner sleeve, place it in a new inner and store it between the cover and outer clear plastic sleeve. It’s nice when the vinyl record company prints a two sided lyric/information sheet and sends the vinyl in one of those rice paper/clear inners.

  • @grahamschannel7575
    @grahamschannel7575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi it’s Graham from the U.K. love the video and advice. I’ve started using either spin care inner sleeves or MoFi However….Some records come new in good quality card sleeves with a smooth inner. Metallica and Iron maiden 180g discs. I’ve kept the records in them for a number of years and they seem fine. I’m unsure on whether to put them into the MoFi or Spincare inner sleeves. What would you advice?

  • @stevelibby6852
    @stevelibby6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only thing I do differenly is turn the record protector sleeve sideways so record will not spill out of the top. It requires another step to remove the record, maybe some dust protection also.
    Also, no substitute for the Kallax. So versatile. I use the 4 x 4, 4 x 2, and 4 x1--you can stack on top to expand inventory when needed, too.

  • @klandersen42
    @klandersen42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outer Sleeves I have always used with opening no top, never the "traditional" way of opening matching cover opening. I knew from the beginning that was an issue.
    I have yet to do the having the disc behind the cover instead of in the cover. For me it is so I can see the back which is usually where the track listings are for when I'm just listening to individual songs rather than a whole album.

  • @Dan-77
    @Dan-77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve put my Diamond Dave into a gatefold sleeve with the hype sticker tucked into the inside

  • @jonathansilva9848
    @jonathansilva9848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the VSS double pocket, dual flaps! What do you suggest for triple LP sets?

  • @warrenhill4601
    @warrenhill4601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Frank interesting video as always👍. One drawback with your method for me is not being able to see the tracking listings. When you have plenty of albums it can be hard to remember what songs are on each lp. Keep up the great videos

  • @gregm7976
    @gregm7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Frank! I just converted approx. 1,000 records to this way of storage. It took some time but well worth it. Much easier to gain access to the record without pulling the outer sleeve in and out of the poly. As someone mentioned in the comments, it does increase the storage space slightly. I use the sealable sleeves from Clearbags but I'm thinking about upgrading to the dual pocket sleeves from Vinyl Storage Solutions.

  • @chrisrees7054
    @chrisrees7054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I place the inner sleeve in sideways so the records are easy to get out. Works for me!