I never understood how people can’t understand the value of an original pressing. There’s nothing cooler than finding a NM pressing of a record that’s over half a century old, a fragile piece of plastic enveloped in paper that’s survived decade after decade unscathed until finally making its way into your collection where it’s safe. It’s like music archeology.
One of my favourite finds recently was The Who pinball wizard single because it was a magazine copy totally disposable thin flimsy bit of plastic that def will sound gross, but it survived all this time
Hey, many times when I see an album, I picture seeing it in a frame hanging on a wall in a gallery. I have a Dick Dale album for years now(since 1967) the record itself ended up somewhere else but the cover photo's are great. Helps that I'm a gear head. I own, I don't know how many albums, most were my wife Leslie's. Since she died I have been playing the records and shows we shared. I want to pass these along before I'm gone. Leslie traveled the world and bought or traded for music from everywhere. This is 1960's and early 70's, one of the best is The Monkees singing in Italian? Petula Clark in Dutch for don't sleep in the subway! Maybe you could point a direction for sharing all of this history. Thanks ANB
The LZ I test pressing story is by far the best record story you’ve shared. Just based on the actual historical relevance of that specific record. Amazing.
The first time I've watched one of your videos, I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of good information. I liked the point that you made of record buyers needing to collect what's meaningful to themselves, not to try and impress anyone else. Or, don't collect something just because it's collectable. Do it only if you like it and want it. Good advice.
I have two copies of Dark Side of the Moon. One of them is a first run Harvest copy that has all the original posters and stickers in it, very cool piece of my collection. The other is my dad's original copy from 1973 when he was a kid. It's stayed in my collection because well, it started the whole thing. I will not get rid of it even if i sell everything tomorrow, just having that one record to remember him by is worth more than anything in this world.
I love test pressings! My prized ones are my Van Halen test, pressings. I have the 1978 S/T actually, the test pressing was done in Dec. 1977 and it’s signed by Eddie on the white cover.
You are spot on. Also, everyone should play the records they buy! My brother asked me the other day if he should open and play a limited edition record (only 500copies). I said ABSOLUTELY! Open it, play it, and enjoy it.
Just came across your channel. I enjoyed watching and listening to your perspective on why you collect. I used to collect comic books (meaning that I don’t buy them any more but I still have my collection) I don’t collect vinyl, but I was a DJ hobbyist (80’s + 90’s) single 12’’ freestyle and house which I still own along with my equipment. To those who collect albums, buy the music you want to hear and enjoy listening to. True what is said that no one outside the hobby cares what you have. As a guy who grew up around and buying vinyl, I am delighted that this medium has made a comeback.
Tripped across your vid here, great watch. I could definitely sit and talk vinyl with you for hours. Great info and perspective. I’ll definitely be buying something from you soon!
Just found your channel. Subscribed to a fair few others, don’t know how I’ve missed yours. Fantastic, love your passion and knowledge, sense of humour and knowledge. Big fan, look forward to hearing heaps more. Cheers from Australia.
On the topic of Blue Note, it is worth mentioning that many 60’s & 70’s reisssues were produced with the same stampers as the first press, sonically an identical product and much more accessible price point for what is still a vintage copy.
Great Video! You keep it real, so true to the hobby as well. Been collecting my favorites since early 1980s and didn’t really start playing them till recently, due to having kids and family, now the 1980 Pioneer system is up and running with a new cartridge and it’s all new again! I been looking for some new records I will check out your site, Happy New Year 😎
100% agree ... I can never own everything that I want ... but I can try😁 I love the hunt, I love the albums and, as you said, I love the "history". It's a great hobby and an expensive one, but I love it.
Thanks for this video, Dillon, a great analysis and discussion of reissues vs OPs. Also, thanks for talking about the Wara LP you've reisued! Heard it online, loved it, and just ordered a copy from your site. Sounds really great for a late-night listen! Also neat that you've reissued this- there's so much great music buried out there that most of us will never hear, but it's always great when we find it
There is nothing more inspiring than listening to someone who is passionate and supremely knowledgable about what they do. A very enjoyable video, thanks very much indeed.
Thanks for another great video. I started collecting vinyl again 3 yrs ago. Even as a 59 yr old, you have opened my eyes and ears to so much music that I didnt know existed. There is nothing better than seeking out vinyl that you have recommended like Amanaz, Mcphee and Elias Hulk. I really need to check out your exclusives (Wara). Keep sharing your passion and knowledge.
Originals to me times out of 10 has more air and sound more natural. Grew up in the 70s buying US, UK and Japanese copies and never sold my vinyl - pristine. Got back into vinyl in 2001. You could pick up incredible rare records for hardly anything. Wish I had bought even more Classic Records releases then. I like your shirt - I had one from that tour 4/30/1077 Pontiac Silverdome Love your - nobody cares about your collection but you Trying to get off the “have to have the best pressing” or “compare the very latest reissue” train
When buying a record your first thought should be to get a good sounding version, it doesn’t matter what edition, it’s the music that counts and is always best if it sounds good. After you’ve bought that and you like it, then you can always go after the original. Remember, it’s all about the music
I’m 67. About 30 years ago, I bought CD versions of most all of my LPs, thinking that these would be superior replacements for my “outdated” records. The good news is that I packed my old LPs away, but never got rid of them, thank goodness I didn’t! I still collect CDs, their sound is incredible, but I will never part with my LPs. I also still have my 1978 Sony Turntable.
You were definitely flexing with those zep1 albums. AS YOU SHOULD!! To have both of those is just awesome. Flex away! BTW just found your channel and subscribed. Great video
Hi Dillon. Interesting video 🤔 As OG prices/value increase, there will always be ppl wanting OG pressings. Currently, Led Zeppelin 1 Turquoise UK pressing is selling between $1K and $3K. That’s quite a bit of money for one record (and it’s not even the best sounding version of Led Zeppelin 1)?! 😬 From my 20+ experience, most record collectors are insular, insufferable, & socially awkward ppl, but some are very insightful, friendly, & passionate. 👍🏼 My recommendation for ppl getting into the vinyl hobby: make friends with collectors who have amazing collections. Listen to the records together: talk about them & enjoy them. ✌🏼
I'm in my 60s and I've held on to my albums since I bought in my teens and the past 10 years I've been buying more originals and represses I was trying to get only AAA albums but it's getting harder and harder great video Dylan.
Hey Dylan, love your take and philosophy on record collecting. Coolest thing is sharing my experiences with my daughter as she is getting into vinyl. Can't wait to give her her first turntable for the holidays.
Your absolute love for music stands out like beacon, I’ve added some of these to my Spotify library to listen too as I’ve not heard of them before. I saw Robert Plant in Aberystwyth, Wales recently, he was superb. I was a long haired, hippy art student when those led zeppelin albums came out here in the uk, so they are always in my collection. Brilliant vid👍🇬🇧
I bought Led Zeppelin III when It first came out in the UK when I was 16 my first album. then went on to be a record dealer for 43 years, great video mate.
Another informative and enjoyable video Dylan- cheers. Ive been following your channel for about a year or so now. I think this is my first comment- you do a great job and I've learnt so much. Even though I'm far away in Leeds UK I'd still like to wish you and all the staff at Noble Records a very happy Christmas and best wishes for the New Year.
I am 68 years of age and have been listening to Vinyl Records since I was a young boy growing up in Arkansas. I live in Thomasville, NC now and have approximately 350 albums. I also list to CD’s and I stream music over my Sonos system. I have around 2000 ITunes on my phone. I think that maybe because of my age not many people listen to the kind of music that I do. I don’t collect music I play it. I play , Country, Southern Rock, Jazz, Gospel, and Blues. 70 percent of my music is Country and Southern Rock. Almost all of my music is from the 70’s going back to 1939. I grew up less than an hour from Johnny Cash and Levon Helm. My favorite artist of all time is Johnny Cash mainly because l lived some of the songs he sings. I picked cotton and worked in the fields that often flooded . We were dirt farmers and very poor. I left Arkansas as soon as I could and never looked back. I absolutely do not like hard rock. I am not a Beatles fan at all. I do watch a lot of your videos and I highly doubt you would have anything in your store like the music I listen to. I do continue to purchase albums. I purchased this month another album from The Band, Ramble at the Ryman CD, another Johnny Cash album and a Eagle’s album. The Band Album was purchased at Acoustic Sounds.
I really appreciate your idea of how that exact piece of vinyl was influencing future artists of California. Never looked at a test pressing like that. Only the allure of a record peeling off a brand new stamper, all details intact.
It’s all subjective. And, when people ask me they want to dive in… I warn them. It’s a crazy passion, they take a lot of room and “$”. But, most of all they need a decent system. On a side note I just ordered 4 of your Noble Exclusives. Can’t wait. Great price & no tax! I’ve also ordered thee Andromeda & a few others in the past. Wonderful, beautifully packaged records! Thanks!!!
After watching this video, I listened to 13th Floor and Wara (I’m a big psychedelic and prog fan). Both were amazing but Wara was absolutely killer! It’s great that I can still discover 1960s/1970s music. Thanks for the suggestions!
Love your opinion and attitude towards collecting! I've been collecting since the late 60's and have sold aa previous collection. I so relate and agree with you! Love your channel!
Hey Brother! Zeppelin is my favorite band as well!!! My holy grail is my Led Zeppelin 2 RL SS hot mix that is VG+ to M- Great video! I would love your test pressing and UK 1st! Happy Spinning and Merry Christmas!
Fascinating topic Dillon and great to hear your perspective. I love to get hold of first pressings of the music I grew up with (‘90s stuff), like this is an actual copy I might have picked up if I’d had the money and foresight to walk into a record store and grab it when I was 16. I also get the ‘artefact’ aspect of it you were talking about. I have a 1956 pressing of the first Elvis album Rock’n’Roll on the HMV label (so a UK pressing), the one where they wrote on the sleeve notes that Elvis was this new star in jazz because the genre that Elvis was part of was literally being invented by this very record and nobody knew how to describe it yet. And when I listen to the music coming out of those grooves it is highly meaningful to me that in 1956 people were listening to those very same grooves and hearing rock music for the very first time. It’s like the genesis of my entire music collection. Thanks for the great video, greetings from London
Nice one Dylan! Yes, the bottom line is collect what makes you happy. I had 12 different copies of ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition from different countries (even from countries where the quality control is suspect) because I love ELP. Then last year when they issued it on white vinyl, I bought a 13th copy. My friends don't see it, but is has meaning to me - and as you said "that's what matters." Cheers from Central California!
Great video! For me, if I can find an original that I can afford, I go for it, if not, I just buy the reissue. This being said, I love the 'historical fact' of having the originals and imagine how they could arrive after so many years to my hands, also if they have an story behind, that the previus owner can tell me, its just awesome! As you said, I cant explain that feeling... But again, I buy lots of reissues also, just because of the crazy pricess that some originals get, Thanks for the video!!
This is a great video! Unfortunately, some of us have gone as far as looking as to where it was pressed. Some plants just didn’t have great quality control and now I look for the best non digitally remastered press. And if possible from original tape. Always enjoy your videos!
My thinking since I started seriously collecting has shifted greatly. I used to not care about what pressing it was, just as long as I could get it cheap. However, as with anything I start collecting, I started thinking about what I should be looking for that will retain or grow value most over time. Obviously the popularity of vinyl waxes and wanes, but there will always be that core of collectors out there. The real die hard collectors. A lot of the time, what they want, is your original pressings, your top condition copies. So my thinking is by focusing on getting those original top copies, I can have a collection of great music that plays incredibly, and it will also retain more value in a soft market than it would if I collected reissues.
@@noblerecords So years ago I used to own an RL Led Zeppelin II and stupidly sold it (the story of my life). Fast forward to 2023 and I recently scored a plum/red UK copy which sounds *unbelievable* . I assume you have heard both and would love your opinion on how they compare.
Love your thoughts on building your collection for your own taste. Also started listening to King Crimson after one of your videos. I find a lot of good music through you. Thanks for that!
I bought the Wara on your recommendation, it was a good price from your store. I am having a little trouble navigating your site. I was looking for an a new copy of Kansas: Song For America. I like playing my records by myself. I recently had a friend over and he bump into by turn table, I was upset but had to get over it. I had just broke the seal so we could listen for the first time together. And all of a sudden the needle bounce across the record. .
My collection is my own plain and simple. I have many originals back in 70s when I was a teenager but beat them to hell. Im happy to have a reissued album and my collection is growing again. I do it for the nostalgia; gives me great joy like many of you.
A few days ago I heard a song on one of the college stations here in Chicago thinking it was Janis Joplin, but when I shazamed it, it turned out to be "Monkey Island" Elevators. After seeing you bring that record up, I put it on from the Web. Now I want a copy. Found CDs and some I'm guessing audiophile pressings with a different cover. I think I'll keep an eye out for the original cover. The Led Zep? Oh yeah, I can see how cool they are. I saw Led Zep three times including the infamous Jimmy passing out on stage, that was a few months before I graduated high school. I would love footage of that. I probably have the ticket stubs from the show.
Dude I got turquoise letters on my Led Zep 1... However some knob wrote their name on it in bottom left front with Magic marker. Is it possible to remove black magic marker from the cover ? Otherwise it's an NM Copy. WHAT CAN I DO BRO ?????
Love your videos! I'm pretty new in this hobby started this years April (after 17years of dreaming). Own mostly new ones and few older, absolutely love the colored vinyl's
Great video and some juicy selections. That teal Zep 1 is friggin rare as heck. Honestly and quite simply, I buy records because I’m guaranteed to listen to the whole album . The temptation to skip with cds and streaming is just too much. Also I collect out of habit . Growing up in the 80s, I thought records were just so cool. I know how they’re made and pressed, it’s quite simple tech, but I still find it magical somehow. It’s my preferred format although I know the dynamic range is significantly lower than a cd or blu ray audio, which I also collect. I found over the passed 20 years , it’s not really original or repress that defines what I buy. It’s particular pressings I want . For instance, Herbie Hancock - Headhunters . The originals sound just fine but the 2015 Analogue Productions pressing can’t be beat . I own that OMR of Zeppelin 2 as well, 1981 pressing. The Bob Ludwig is amazing but louder. These 2 cuts along with the Classic Recordings are my favorite pressings . Did you know the master tapes for “In the Court of the Crimson King” were lost in the 1969? All the pressings for all formats suffered generational loss and distortion from improper eq and compression applied. Thankfully, the masters were found in 2002. The vinyl repressing in 2009 and the blu ray multichannel mixed by Steven Wilson under Robert Fripp’s supervision are incredible. One other thing I find interesting or just yet another variable are the mixes of 60’s and 70’s albums. The US stereo mixes of Beatles I find to be crap . Doesn’t hit as hard as the mono mixes of the UK pressings. But the Uk mastering , the drums are buried for the same reason the Bob Ludwig mastering of Zep 2 was rejected. People’s record stylus would jump out. Ringo Starr’s first comment about the remastered 2018 White Album was, “You can finally hear my drums!” And during the 70’s, there were mixing decisions based on the whole stereo cabinet setup most people had. So the spectrum was narrower. Some people like that sound and are used to it. Others like a real wide spectrum. I personally think the Steven Wilson mix of the Yes catalogs and Jethro Tull Aqualung are far superior with a wider spectrum. But hey, the only thing that matters is the music on whatever format you choose. That’s all cds, dvd-a, blu ray audio, Sacd, vinyl, cassette, and streaming are. Just formats .
Hey, great video. I like your enthusiasm and honesty. I have been collecting for decades. I collect simply for sound quality. Always chasing that dragon for the definitive best sound. I have found that 90% of the time first press and country of origin are going to be the best. But I am always open to a newer version to take the crown. A great example would be the new Pink Floyd Animals. I have never heard that album sound so good and I’ve had many different pressings over the years. Conversely, nothing can touch my A2/B2 UK press of DSOTM. It’s funny that you bring up King Crimson ITCOTCK, for years, my best sounding press was the UK press. But the Steven Wilson remix has just become my new best press. Also, everyone wants the first press, pink label copy of ITCOTCK. But I found the best sounding copy was the very short run third UK press. The third press came out in early 1970 and was the first press on the pink rim island uk label. It was also the only version cut by George Peckham, better known in the dead wax as Porky Pecko. It wasn’t even pressed for a full year because EMI took over pressing and distribution of the island label and a forth press was issued. Cheers.
You killed me when you pulled out Nevermind. I have a whole heap of original pressings I got from my dad, and Nirvana are one of my all time favourite bands, and it was one of the first albums I got (but on CD). I want an original pressing of it and I looked up the prices of them recently, but there's no way I can afford one :(
Great video Dillon! I certainly can appreciate the historical significance of the LZI test pressing. I grew up in So Cal and K.M.E.T was my favorite radio station! They always had zeppelin on the airwaves …. Occasionally they would do a Led Zeppelin A-Z weekend, where they would play every Zeppelin tune in alphabetical order … great times!
Really interesting topic Dillon. I am 71 and have been buying records of all kinds since I was a radio DJ in the 70s. I have settled into mostly jazz over the years & I do have more interest in originals or early pressings. The historical character appeal is hard to explain but I think you hit the right points. I do think if you are just starting, pressings like Tone Poets are the way to go, but at this stage I mostly am trying to fill holes and grails I want and go for the OGs or early pressings. I find that I can eventually find early presses or OGs that sound great to me. For example, RSD I am generally only interested in the previously unreleased material.
Great content, have subscribed! Recently started building a small vinyl collection, for investment I confess, although my resolve may weaken over time so I end up playing them! Had records but sold the big hitters a few years back for the money, and regretted ever since. My love is classic punk, mainly UK. Bought a few original presses, but then you get quality issues and silly prices. Then realised could buy some really nice limited reissues on coloured vinyl for reasonable prices, plus mint sealed copies. Started with Sex Pistols 7 inch single reissues, then got a NMTB 35th anniversary and went from there. Have built a collection of almost every classic I owned but sealed. Those reissues in many cases are increasing in value, my collection according to Discogs already has a top value of almost £1600 for around 35 records. Really enjoying collecting again. Just looking at a US rerelease of Do It Dog Style by Slaughter and the Dogs on orange vinyl, and watching a blue vinyl The Scream by Siouxsie and the Banshees! Keep up the great work!!!!
I'm 40 sec in. Sound is why to buy a original. There's a certain sound vs a re pop. And if they have to ask they will never understand. Not being rude ... I love the original sound cause you travel to a time by sound. Best thing in the universe!
The quality of any record pressing varies within the issue, (1st issue, 2nd issue, reissue etc...). My buddy used to own a record store and we would sit and grade the quality of the pressing, regardless of the issue. He would then value the record based on the issue and the quality of the pressing.
I like original vinyl records because there is a story to be told about the disc that can be told....or maybe thought about. There is nothing more pleasing than finding a gem of a vintage record. 😊
I can understand why you would want an original. I've gone out of my way to collect certain originals myself. Sometimes albums are remastered and remixed, and you can't get a new copy that isn't. A good example for me was Real Gone by Tom Waits. The newer remixed remaster isn't bad at all, but if you've ever heard the original before, then it is a noticeably HUGE difference. It's worth hunting for the originals if you can.
The remaster is more than a remaster. It changes the music significantly. Real gone was my first Tom Waits album. The remaster is interesting for fans, but the original is better for sure.
I've only recently got into vinyl and have a mixture of both, i've picked up old one partly because they're usually cheap (i picked up a copy of dark side of the moon, Rock the nation, status quo, and joe cocker) for under £50, and partly because i love browsing the stores and the idea thar someone decades before me has a whole entire history with each disc. I buy new copies for 3 reasons, 1: I like the guarantee that it a fresh undamaged copy 2: because it's a release that's new 3: because it keeps the record industry going. They only started producing them in number again because they became a popular fad and now the fad's moved on to CD's if the people that love them don't buy them they'll fade away and stop being made again. I do have 1 regret though, The shop the i bought the dark side of the moon also had an original 05 copy for £75, God i wish i picked it up instead.
Am a fan of and a sucker for the OG pressings- wondering the hands it’s passed through, what it’s seen or what it’d say if it could talk. Part of what makes vinyl great (or physical media) is the wear on it that tells its own story. (Yes, I know I sound ridiculous)
It's very interesting to hear and read about Original pressings as i can only afford reissues and honestly, theres just so much music to discover out there that for me it's just about experiencing as much music as i can afford. Also, most equipment that's affordable to most of us, very difficulty to hear the small nuances between pressings. I could be wrong though.
As a 50-year record collector and the prices today of original issue vinyl, I think your viewpoint is very sensible and it's a good way of looking at collecting vinyl. Like you said, with the amount of Music out there to experience and enjoy, it only makes sense to keep your costs down so you can collect as much as you want to. Have fun collecting.
I don’t think you need high end equipment to hear the difference in an audiophile record. Listen to the mofi copy of American Beauty and then listen to an OG. You’re going to hear a difference. I think you’d notice a difference on a Crosley
I got my Zeppelin 1 1972 issue for £18 VG + rating on discogs and a new copy is about £25 to £30 in the uk , I’m not understanding the pricing on new vinyl, love your channel.
Wise words at the end...don't collect to impress anyone but yourself!
Thank you!
Well said
I never understood how people can’t understand the value of an original pressing. There’s nothing cooler than finding a NM pressing of a record that’s over half a century old, a fragile piece of plastic enveloped in paper that’s survived decade after decade unscathed until finally making its way into your collection where it’s safe. It’s like music archeology.
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Exactly!!
And also is the best quality both sound wise and graphically wise ( for the most part).
One of my favourite finds recently was The Who pinball wizard single because it was a magazine copy totally disposable thin flimsy bit of plastic that def will sound gross, but it survived all this time
@@Destide love stuff like that. The fact that it’s flimsy and probably doesn’t sound the best makes it all the much better 😂👍🏼
Dylan, like you I can not explain why I collect. I’m a 61 yo addict. Spent $500 yesterday
I would do that if I had that kind of money
Hahaha I’m with you man 🤣
I spend $300 to $400 Monthly
Good to have another hobby other than the vinyl obsession
@@Matasky2010 nah
Hey, many times when I see an album, I picture seeing it in a frame hanging on a wall in a gallery. I have a Dick Dale album for years now(since 1967) the record itself ended up somewhere else but the cover photo's are great. Helps that I'm a gear head. I own, I don't know how many albums, most were my wife Leslie's. Since she died I have been playing the records and shows we shared. I want to pass these along before I'm gone. Leslie traveled the world and bought or traded for music from everywhere. This is 1960's and early 70's, one of the best is The Monkees singing in Italian? Petula Clark in Dutch for don't sleep in the subway! Maybe you could point a direction for sharing all of this history. Thanks ANB
Hello! I would just take them to your nearest record store! Good luck!
In the end only YOU will care about your collection, is a great statement.
Thanks! So true!
Spot on, love the closing: “no one cares about your collection but you”.
The LZ I test pressing story is by far the best record story you’ve shared. Just based on the actual historical relevance of that specific record. Amazing.
Yeah it’s special to me! Thanks for watching! 🙏
The first time I've watched one of your videos, I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of good information. I liked the point that you made of record buyers needing to collect what's meaningful to themselves, not to try and impress anyone else. Or, don't collect something just because it's collectable. Do it only if you like it and want it. Good advice.
Thanks so much!
I have two copies of Dark Side of the Moon. One of them is a first run Harvest copy that has all the original posters and stickers in it, very cool piece of my collection. The other is my dad's original copy from 1973 when he was a kid. It's stayed in my collection because well, it started the whole thing. I will not get rid of it even if i sell everything tomorrow, just having that one record to remember him by is worth more than anything in this world.
I love test pressings! My prized ones are my Van Halen test, pressings. I have the 1978 S/T actually, the test pressing was done in Dec. 1977 and it’s signed by Eddie on the white cover.
Wow that’s incredible!
Goddamit, that was the best video ive seen for years and days, you formulated my own thoughts better than I could myself
Hey that means a lot! Thanks!
You are spot on. Also, everyone should play the records they buy! My brother asked me the other day if he should open and play a limited edition record (only 500copies). I said ABSOLUTELY! Open it, play it, and enjoy it.
LPs are made to be played not to collect dust 😎.
Just came across your channel. I enjoyed watching and listening to your perspective on why you collect. I used to collect comic books (meaning that I don’t buy them any more but I still have my collection) I don’t collect vinyl, but I was a DJ hobbyist (80’s + 90’s) single 12’’ freestyle and house which I still own along with my equipment. To those who collect albums, buy the music you want to hear and enjoy listening to. True what is said that no one outside the hobby cares what you have. As a guy who grew up around and buying vinyl, I am delighted that this medium has made a comeback.
Tripped across your vid here, great watch. I could definitely sit and talk vinyl with you for hours. Great info and perspective. I’ll definitely be buying something from you soon!
Just found your channel. Subscribed to a fair few others, don’t know how I’ve missed yours.
Fantastic, love your passion and knowledge, sense of humour and knowledge.
Big fan, look forward to hearing heaps more. Cheers from Australia.
On the topic of Blue Note, it is worth mentioning that many 60’s & 70’s reisssues were produced with the same stampers as the first press, sonically an identical product and much more accessible price point for what is still a vintage copy.
Yes! True!
Great Video! You keep it real, so true to the hobby as well. Been collecting my favorites since early 1980s and didn’t really start playing them till recently, due to having kids and family, now the 1980 Pioneer system is up and running with a new cartridge and it’s all new again! I been looking for some new records I will check out your site, Happy New Year 😎
100% agree ... I can never own everything that I want ... but I can try😁
I love the hunt, I love the albums and, as you said, I love the "history".
It's a great hobby and an expensive one, but I love it.
Yes I agree as well!
Thanks for this video, Dillon, a great analysis and discussion of reissues vs OPs. Also, thanks for talking about the Wara LP you've reisued! Heard it online, loved it, and just ordered a copy from your site. Sounds really great for a late-night listen! Also neat that you've reissued this- there's so much great music buried out there that most of us will never hear, but it's always great when we find it
No way, I didn’t know King Crimson had a pressing on Swirl. That’s mad man. That won’t be easy to come by.
Great video man. Love the two LZ.’s. 🤙
THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE , it was on my mind for a minute . you explain everything to the dot. thank you
Thanks for watching! 🙏
There is nothing more inspiring than listening to someone who is passionate and supremely knowledgable about what they do. A very enjoyable video, thanks very much indeed.
Thanks for another great video. I started collecting vinyl again 3 yrs ago. Even as a 59 yr old, you have opened my eyes and ears to so much music that I didnt know existed. There is nothing better than seeking out vinyl that you have recommended like Amanaz, Mcphee and Elias Hulk. I really need to check out your exclusives (Wara).
Keep sharing your passion and knowledge.
Yes! Check them out! I only do exclusives on things I really love! Noblerecordstore.com/store
You hit the nail on the head Dillon...only collect what you like and means something to you!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Originals to me times out of 10 has more air and sound more natural.
Grew up in the 70s buying US, UK and Japanese copies and never sold my vinyl - pristine. Got back into vinyl in 2001. You could pick up incredible rare records for hardly anything. Wish I had bought even more Classic Records releases then. I like your shirt - I had one from that tour 4/30/1077 Pontiac Silverdome
Love your - nobody cares about your collection but you
Trying to get off the “have to have the best pressing” or “compare the very latest reissue” train
Fantastic channel. Congrats for your work, albuns and excelents coments. Regards from Brasil !
First vid I've watched from your channel. Subscribed.
Jar of Flies 🔥
Awesome! Thanks so much!!!!
Love this channel man
@@noblerecordscongrats on 100k btw
When buying a record your first thought should be to get a good sounding version, it doesn’t matter what edition, it’s the music that counts and is always best if it sounds good. After you’ve bought that and you like it, then you can always go after the original. Remember, it’s all about the music
I really loved this! I learned a ton! I also like what you said at the end. Get what you love.
haha... "Im not trying to flex or anything". That should be on the t-shirt of every collector of anything ever😆Great video dude👍
Hahahahha 💪💪💪
I’m 67. About 30 years ago, I bought CD versions of most all of my LPs, thinking that these would be superior replacements for my “outdated” records. The good news is that I packed my old LPs away, but never got rid of them, thank goodness I didn’t! I still collect CDs, their sound is incredible, but I will never part with my LPs. I also still have my 1978 Sony Turntable.
Awesome! Pull them back out!
You were definitely flexing with those zep1 albums. AS YOU SHOULD!! To have both of those is just awesome. Flex away!
BTW just found your channel and subscribed. Great video
Hi Dillon. Interesting video 🤔
As OG prices/value increase, there will always be ppl wanting OG pressings.
Currently, Led Zeppelin 1 Turquoise UK pressing is selling between $1K and $3K. That’s quite a bit of money for one record (and it’s not even the best sounding version of Led Zeppelin 1)?! 😬
From my 20+ experience, most record collectors are insular, insufferable, & socially awkward ppl, but some are very insightful, friendly, & passionate. 👍🏼
My recommendation for ppl getting into the vinyl hobby: make friends with collectors who have amazing collections. Listen to the records together: talk about them & enjoy them. ✌🏼
Great perspective! I agree!
Good words of wisdom collect for your heart, soul and taste.
I'm in my 60s and I've held on to my albums since I bought in my teens and the past 10 years I've been buying more originals and represses I was trying to get only AAA albums but it's getting harder and harder great video Dylan.
Hey Dylan, love your take and philosophy on record collecting. Coolest thing is sharing my experiences with my daughter as she is getting into vinyl. Can't wait to give her her first turntable for the holidays.
Thanks as always Dylan! Will look for your store this spring! Planning an eastern seaboard trip…
Awesome! Hope to see you!
I have pondered this question many a time. Thanks for weighing in. I like both, too.
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Great video man! always enjoy watching your channel!
Your absolute love for music stands out like beacon, I’ve added some of these to my Spotify library to listen too as I’ve not heard of them before. I saw Robert Plant in Aberystwyth, Wales recently, he was superb. I was a long haired, hippy art student when those led zeppelin albums came out here in the uk, so they are always in my collection. Brilliant vid👍🇬🇧
I bought Led Zeppelin III when It first came out in the UK when I was 16 my first album. then went on to be a record dealer for 43 years, great video mate.
Really appreciate the education--from Athens, GA. Hope to visit your store some day.
Please do! Not too far!
Another informative and enjoyable video Dylan- cheers. Ive been following your channel for about a year or so now. I think this is my first comment- you do a great job and I've learnt so much. Even though I'm far away in Leeds UK I'd still like to wish you and all the staff at Noble Records a very happy Christmas and best wishes for the New Year.
Awesome Video 👍
Thanks man!
I am 68 years of age and have been listening to Vinyl Records since I was a young boy growing up in Arkansas. I live in Thomasville, NC now and have approximately 350 albums. I also list to CD’s and I stream music over my Sonos system.
I have around 2000 ITunes on my phone.
I think that maybe because of my age not many people listen to the kind of music that I do. I don’t collect music I play it.
I play , Country, Southern Rock, Jazz, Gospel, and Blues.
70 percent of my music is Country and Southern Rock.
Almost all of my music is from the 70’s going back to 1939.
I grew up less than an hour from Johnny Cash and Levon Helm.
My favorite artist of all time is Johnny Cash mainly because l lived some of the songs he sings.
I picked cotton and worked in the fields that often flooded .
We were dirt farmers and very poor.
I left Arkansas as soon as I could and never looked back.
I absolutely do not like hard rock.
I am not a Beatles fan at all.
I do watch a lot of your videos and I highly doubt you would have anything in your store like the music I listen to.
I do continue to purchase albums.
I purchased this month another album from The Band, Ramble at the Ryman CD, another Johnny Cash album and a Eagle’s album.
The Band Album was purchased at Acoustic Sounds.
I love that you mentioned Townes in your favorite list . I absolutely love him and have slowly been collecting his original pressings!
INSANE pieces my friend!!!
Outstanding amount of work you have done . Appreciate your knowledge .
Another great video Dylan!! I have a few on my want list Thanks....
I really appreciate your idea of how that exact piece of vinyl was influencing future artists of California. Never looked at a test pressing like that. Only the allure of a record peeling off a brand new stamper, all details intact.
It’s all subjective. And, when people ask me they want to dive in… I warn them. It’s a crazy passion, they take a lot of room and “$”. But, most of all they need a decent system. On a side note I just ordered 4 of your Noble Exclusives. Can’t wait. Great price & no tax! I’ve also ordered thee Andromeda & a few others in the past. Wonderful, beautifully packaged records! Thanks!!!
Thanks so much! I hope you love them!
Thanks I do collect what I like new and old and will check out your exclusives.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I'm currently rebuilding my collection on Vinyl and this is great food for thought.
After watching this video, I listened to 13th Floor and Wara (I’m a big psychedelic and prog fan). Both were amazing but Wara was absolutely killer! It’s great that I can still discover 1960s/1970s music. Thanks for the suggestions!
Thanks for this. I'm about to start collecting vinyl and this confirmed a lot of what I was thinking.
Love your opinion and attitude towards collecting! I've been collecting since the late 60's and have sold aa previous collection. I so relate and agree with you! Love your channel!
Hey Brother! Zeppelin is my favorite band as well!!! My holy grail is my Led Zeppelin 2 RL SS hot mix that is VG+ to M- Great video! I would love your test pressing and UK 1st! Happy Spinning and Merry Christmas!
Fascinating topic Dillon and great to hear your perspective. I love to get hold of first pressings of the music I grew up with (‘90s stuff), like this is an actual copy I might have picked up if I’d had the money and foresight to walk into a record store and grab it when I was 16. I also get the ‘artefact’ aspect of it you were talking about. I have a 1956 pressing of the first Elvis album Rock’n’Roll on the HMV label (so a UK pressing), the one where they wrote on the sleeve notes that Elvis was this new star in jazz because the genre that Elvis was part of was literally being invented by this very record and nobody knew how to describe it yet. And when I listen to the music coming out of those grooves it is highly meaningful to me that in 1956 people were listening to those very same grooves and hearing rock music for the very first time. It’s like the genesis of my entire music collection. Thanks for the great video, greetings from London
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Nice one Dylan! Yes, the bottom line is collect what makes you happy. I had 12 different copies of ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition from different countries (even from countries where the quality control is suspect) because I love ELP. Then last year when they issued it on white vinyl, I bought a 13th copy. My friends don't see it, but is has meaning to me - and as you said "that's what matters." Cheers from Central California!
Thanks so much!
Great video! For me, if I can find an original that I can afford, I go for it, if not, I just buy the reissue. This being said, I love the 'historical fact' of having the originals and imagine how they could arrive after so many years to my hands, also if they have an story behind, that the previus owner can tell me, its just awesome! As you said, I cant explain that feeling... But again, I buy lots of reissues also, just because of the crazy pricess that some originals get,
Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for watching! 🙏 I agree with your approach!
Well said, well reasoned, WELL DONE, Man. 👍🤘
I'm both also. Best of both worlds 👍 I love the video about that collection. Great story 🥰
This is a great video! Unfortunately, some of us have gone as far as looking as to where it was pressed. Some plants just didn’t have great quality control and now I look for the best non digitally remastered press. And if possible from original tape. Always enjoy your videos!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
My thinking since I started seriously collecting has shifted greatly. I used to not care about what pressing it was, just as long as I could get it cheap. However, as with anything I start collecting, I started thinking about what I should be looking for that will retain or grow value most over time. Obviously the popularity of vinyl waxes and wanes, but there will always be that core of collectors out there. The real die hard collectors. A lot of the time, what they want, is your original pressings, your top condition copies. So my thinking is by focusing on getting those original top copies, I can have a collection of great music that plays incredibly, and it will also retain more value in a soft market than it would if I collected reissues.
Very good perspective! They aren’t making any more 1st pressings!
@@noblerecords So years ago I used to own an RL Led Zeppelin II and stupidly sold it (the story of my life). Fast forward to 2023 and I recently scored a plum/red UK copy which sounds *unbelievable* . I assume you have heard both and would love your opinion on how they compare.
Would you rather have a NM original pressing or a VG+ second pressing, like a repress from the same or following year?
Unless you’re buying Taylor Swift or Harry Stiles.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls I'll usually accept an early repress in place of an OG, until I can find a pristine OG.
love your enthusiasm and excitement when you talk about the records
I love what you do and say
A great video Dylan, kinda hits on everything and for everyone. Sometimes the story about getting a record is better then the record itself.
Yeah it’s a combo for me! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Love your thoughts on building your collection for your own taste. Also started listening to King Crimson after one of your videos. I find a lot of good music through you. Thanks for that!
You’re welcome! That means a lot! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I bought the Wara on your recommendation, it was a good price from your store. I am having a little trouble navigating your site. I was looking for an a new copy of Kansas: Song For America. I like playing my records by myself. I recently had a friend over and he bump into by turn table, I was upset but had to get over it. I had just broke the seal so we could listen for the first time together. And all of a sudden the needle bounce across the record. .
Hey! Thanks for grabbing wara. I really only sell my exclusives on my website right now, all the collections I get go into the shop!
I just managed to get a Led Zepp1 NZ press that was done at Grey Lynn at the laundry sharing the steam .same place the King Crims came from
Very cool!
I did get the Three Led Zepp Records from Japan with the posters They hang on my wall.The Led Zepp 3 Poster is a must have. @@noblerecords
My collection is my own plain and simple. I have many originals back in 70s when I was a teenager but beat them to hell. Im happy to have a reissued album and my collection is growing again. I do it for the nostalgia; gives me great joy like many of you.
Nostalgia for your youth and enjoyment; that's what it's about.
Great video, very informative and balanced. 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching! 🙏
So, where could a fella find a copy of "the mysterious flying orchestra" I would love to have one and don't know how to look for it
I’d check discogs.com
@@noblerecords word, apparently I'm a space cadet. Haven't thought about discogs in ages!
It’s about the history. What an honor to own an original pressing that was out in that moment in history 🤘
A few days ago I heard a song on one of the college stations here in Chicago thinking it was Janis Joplin, but when I shazamed it, it turned out to be "Monkey Island" Elevators. After seeing you bring that record up, I put it on from the Web. Now I want a copy. Found CDs and some I'm guessing audiophile pressings with a different cover. I think I'll keep an eye out for the original cover. The Led Zep? Oh yeah, I can see how cool they are. I saw Led Zep three times including the infamous Jimmy passing out on stage, that was a few months before I graduated high school. I would love footage of that. I probably have the ticket stubs from the show.
Dude I got turquoise letters on my Led Zep 1...
However some knob wrote their name on it in bottom left front with Magic marker.
Is it possible to remove black magic marker from the cover ? Otherwise it's an NM Copy.
WHAT CAN I DO BRO ?????
Rubbing alcohol!
@@noblerecords I AM TERRIFIED !!!! LOL... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
New subscriber. Really liking your videos.
Hi! Great info! Thanks
Love your videos! I'm pretty new in this hobby started this years April (after 17years of dreaming). Own mostly new ones and few older, absolutely love the colored vinyl's
Very good advice indeed and well received.
Thanks mark!
Great video and some juicy selections. That teal Zep 1 is friggin rare as heck.
Honestly and quite simply, I buy records because I’m guaranteed to listen to the whole album . The temptation to skip with cds and streaming is just too much.
Also I collect out of habit . Growing up in the 80s, I thought records were just so cool. I know how they’re made and pressed, it’s quite simple tech, but I still find it magical somehow. It’s my preferred format although I know the dynamic range is significantly lower than a cd or blu ray audio, which I also collect.
I found over the passed 20 years , it’s not really original or repress that defines what I buy. It’s particular pressings I want . For instance, Herbie Hancock - Headhunters . The originals sound just fine but the 2015 Analogue Productions pressing can’t be beat . I own that OMR of Zeppelin 2 as well, 1981 pressing. The Bob Ludwig is amazing but louder. These 2 cuts along with the Classic Recordings are my favorite pressings .
Did you know the master tapes for “In the Court of the Crimson King” were lost in the 1969? All the pressings for all formats suffered generational loss and distortion from improper eq and compression applied. Thankfully, the masters were found in 2002. The vinyl repressing in 2009 and the blu ray multichannel mixed by Steven Wilson under Robert Fripp’s supervision are incredible.
One other thing I find interesting or just yet another variable are the mixes of 60’s and 70’s albums. The US stereo mixes of Beatles I find to be crap . Doesn’t hit as hard as the mono mixes of the UK pressings. But the Uk mastering , the drums are buried for the same reason the Bob Ludwig mastering of Zep 2 was rejected. People’s record stylus would jump out. Ringo Starr’s first comment about the remastered 2018 White Album was, “You can finally hear my drums!”
And during the 70’s, there were mixing decisions based on the whole stereo cabinet setup most people had. So the spectrum was narrower. Some people like that sound and are used to it. Others like a real wide spectrum. I personally think the Steven Wilson mix of the Yes catalogs and Jethro Tull Aqualung are far superior with a wider spectrum.
But hey, the only thing that matters is the music on whatever format you choose. That’s all cds, dvd-a, blu ray audio, Sacd, vinyl, cassette, and streaming are. Just formats .
Comes right in with the heat… my man! ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
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🤣 thanks man!
I found a Lightin Hopkins Something Blue test pressing a few months ago. It sounds great
Very nice!
Hey, great video. I like your enthusiasm and honesty. I have been collecting for decades. I collect simply for sound quality. Always chasing that dragon for the definitive best sound. I have found that 90% of the time first press and country of origin are going to be the best. But I am always open to a newer version to take the crown. A great example would be the new Pink Floyd Animals. I have never heard that album sound so good and I’ve had many different pressings over the years. Conversely, nothing can touch my A2/B2 UK press of DSOTM. It’s funny that you bring up King Crimson ITCOTCK, for years, my best sounding press was the UK press. But the Steven Wilson remix has just become my new best press. Also, everyone wants the first press, pink label copy of ITCOTCK. But I found the best sounding copy was the very short run third UK press. The third press came out in early 1970 and was the first press on the pink rim island uk label. It was also the only version cut by George Peckham, better known in the dead wax as Porky Pecko. It wasn’t even pressed for a full year because EMI took over pressing and distribution of the island label and a forth press was issued.
Cheers.
Hi DevilDart, have you checked the SACD 50th Anniversary re-issue of Pink Floyd’s DSOTM?
You killed me when you pulled out Nevermind. I have a whole heap of original pressings I got from my dad, and Nirvana are one of my all time favourite bands, and it was one of the first albums I got (but on CD). I want an original pressing of it and I looked up the prices of them recently, but there's no way I can afford one :(
That’s the fun thing about records, you can sometimes get lucky with them!
Great video Dillon! I certainly can appreciate the historical significance of the LZI test pressing. I grew up in So Cal and K.M.E.T was my favorite radio station! They always had zeppelin on the airwaves …. Occasionally they would do a Led Zeppelin A-Z weekend, where they would play every Zeppelin tune in alphabetical order … great times!
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Really interesting topic Dillon. I am 71 and have been buying records of all kinds since I was a radio DJ in the 70s. I have settled into mostly jazz over the years & I do have more interest in originals or early pressings. The historical character appeal is hard to explain but I think you hit the right points. I do think if you are just starting, pressings like Tone Poets are the way to go, but at this stage I mostly am trying to fill holes and grails I want and go for the OGs or early pressings. I find that I can eventually find early presses or OGs that sound great to me. For example, RSD I am generally only interested in the previously unreleased material.
I agree on RSD! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Great content, have subscribed! Recently started building a small vinyl collection, for investment I confess, although my resolve may weaken over time so I end up playing them! Had records but sold the big hitters a few years back for the money, and regretted ever since. My love is classic punk, mainly UK. Bought a few original presses, but then you get quality issues and silly prices. Then realised could buy some really nice limited reissues on coloured vinyl for reasonable prices, plus mint sealed copies. Started with Sex Pistols 7 inch single reissues, then got a NMTB 35th anniversary and went from there. Have built a collection of almost every classic I owned but sealed. Those reissues in many cases are increasing in value, my collection according to Discogs already has a top value of almost £1600 for around 35 records. Really enjoying collecting again. Just looking at a US rerelease of Do It Dog Style by Slaughter and the Dogs on orange vinyl, and watching a blue vinyl The Scream by Siouxsie and the Banshees! Keep up the great work!!!!
I'm 40 sec in. Sound is why to buy a original. There's a certain sound vs a re pop. And if they have to ask they will never understand. Not being rude ... I love the original sound cause you travel to a time by sound. Best thing in the universe!
I feel very fortunate to own original pressings of all three Mandrake Memorial albums!
The quality of any record pressing varies within the issue, (1st issue, 2nd issue, reissue etc...). My buddy used to own a record store and we would sit and grade the quality of the pressing, regardless of the issue. He would then value the record based on the issue and the quality of the pressing.
Well there’s a lot of factors. Source material, mastering, all that. It’s a case by case deal! Thanks for watching! 🙏 happy new year!
I like original vinyl records because there is a story to be told about the disc that can be told....or maybe thought about. There is nothing more pleasing than finding a gem of a vintage record. 😊
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I can understand why you would want an original. I've gone out of my way to collect certain originals myself. Sometimes albums are remastered and remixed, and you can't get a new copy that isn't. A good example for me was Real Gone by Tom Waits. The newer remixed remaster isn't bad at all, but if you've ever heard the original before, then it is a noticeably HUGE difference. It's worth hunting for the originals if you can.
The remaster is more than a remaster. It changes the music significantly.
Real gone was my first Tom Waits album.
The remaster is interesting for fans, but the original is better for sure.
I've only recently got into vinyl and have a mixture of both, i've picked up old one partly because they're usually cheap (i picked up a copy of dark side of the moon, Rock the nation, status quo, and joe cocker) for under £50, and partly because i love browsing the stores and the idea thar someone decades before me has a whole entire history with each disc.
I buy new copies for 3 reasons, 1: I like the guarantee that it a fresh undamaged copy 2: because it's a release that's new 3: because it keeps the record industry going. They only started producing them in number again because they became a popular fad and now the fad's moved on to CD's if the people that love them don't buy them they'll fade away and stop being made again.
I do have 1 regret though, The shop the i bought the dark side of the moon also had an original 05 copy for £75, God i wish i picked it up instead.
Am a fan of and a sucker for the OG pressings- wondering the hands it’s passed through, what it’s seen or what it’d say if it could talk. Part of what makes vinyl great (or physical media) is the wear on it that tells its own story. (Yes, I know I sound ridiculous)
You get it!! 🙏🙏
Hi. Nice. An off-topic question… I have original releases and wondering how to clean these high mileage albums, in your opinion. Thanks.
I say, clean as needed. I don’t clean them unless they are actually dirty but that’s just me.
Simple answer...I've compared pressings of Zep II from the RL to the Page remaster. The RL stomps every other pressing.
I have all RL led Zeppelin and yes, they do sound better.
It's very interesting to hear and read about Original pressings as i can only afford reissues and honestly, theres just so much music to discover out there that for me it's just about experiencing as much music as i can afford. Also, most equipment that's affordable to most of us, very difficulty to hear the small nuances between pressings. I could be wrong though.
I totally agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
As a 50-year record collector and the prices today of original issue vinyl, I think your viewpoint is very sensible and it's a good way of looking at collecting vinyl. Like you said, with the amount of Music out there to experience and enjoy, it only makes sense to keep your costs down so you can collect as much as you want to. Have fun collecting.
I don’t think you need high end equipment to hear the difference in an audiophile record. Listen to the mofi copy of American Beauty and then listen to an OG. You’re going to hear a difference. I think you’d notice a difference on a Crosley
Many great words of record collecting wisdom here. Thank you for all the great content Dillon! Greetings from Sweden🤘
Thanks for watching! 🙏
I got some pretty cool reissues. But I love originals. Of all genres mainly metal and punk for me. Nice video man
I got my Zeppelin 1 1972 issue for £18 VG + rating on discogs and a new copy is about £25 to £30 in the uk , I’m not understanding the pricing on new vinyl, love your channel.