another banger man, thank you! Here's what I did when I released 52 songs last year, in case someone finds it useful: I went into my laptop and went to the folder with all my projects. Filtered by date created. Started with earliest date, and did not move on to next project until that project was done. It did not matter if it was good or bad, it was about finishing. I had become a chronic starter. Starting projects and ideas, and couldn't get myself to finish them. By setting the boundary of not moving on to the next project until I finished this one, gave me a sense of relief. The constrictions bred creativity, and songs I thought that would be crap became some of my favorite songs. We all have the capacity to finish great music once we get to a certain skill level. It's just a matter of seeing it all the way through for each project. Your genuine self as an artist will not allow the song to sound bad. Trust that, push through, and you'll surprise yourself!
@@HowardCharlesUK it was a jam packed year that's for sure : ) Felt very weird and almost sad releasing your best songs amongst so many others. There was always this "what if" the world heard my BEST songs. I was holding that in my back pocket as some sort of excuse to myself that that was why I wasn't as big as I wanted to be. Then when you release them and they don't do that well you realize you can do better. Then you actually get better because you broke through that psychological barrier of letting go your most precious babies
Finishing bad ideas you dont feel is not a good idea in my opinion. Making an idea that moves your body and evokes emotion THAT will make your track by it self. Strive for perfect melodies and top lines, only there i find relief.
I've being making sample tapes(not tapes anymore) for years, listen to the ideas on my travels and pick what resonates with me in that moment. i still go back to stuff from 10yrs ago , as i have that many folders of ideas. It's amazing what pops out to you later that you didn't think was all that. The art of finishing is a fine art . great vid!
Google "pareto principle" It means that 80 lercent of your fi ished songs will come out of 20 percent of the time you spend producing. Its a general statistical trend accross many different disciplines. 80 lercent of results are the product of 20 percent of the activity in any given domain.
@@FDSREWQ Or you can understand it, in this example, that 20% of whole time spent on producing gives 80% of finished song. The 80% of producing is just small details you spend way too much time for
I love hearing how he talks about it’s okay to not have a project be perfect. For the longest time every track I did would just go in my trash folder because I stressed too much, and then I just reinforced to have fun accept how things sound and be confident with the decisions I make and projects not only get done faster but I enjoy every part of it.
honestly there are a lot of takes on your channel where im like "eeh works for some but its not necessarily the way" but this one is just exactly what ive been feeling for about 3 years now. luckily im not worried about money but people keep telling me i am holding myself back.
We all hold ourselves back more than we realize, including me, and what a bad way to lose the battle (fighting ourselves)! Best of luck with your music
Finally! Making music has little to do with music itself. It has more to do with discipline and focus than anything else. Making music, in that sence, is more a sport than an art!
Literally, I’ve just stepped away from my computer because I told myself I’m kidding myself and I’m not getting any where and this was the first video I saw when I opened TH-cam…literally just what I needed. DON’T STOP!!❤️
Tried it this week and I already have a folder with like ten ideas. Actually ideas come pretty fast but the way you deal with them defines your productivity. This method will maybe do wonders for me!
I recorded demo songs for years but the worst thing I ever did was play them over and over because I became attached to them. Now when I go in and record them for real i constantly compare to the demo and i'm never satisfied.
... Yeah, I love doing what I'm doing and no matter what others think! Most exquisite pieces of art are never undestood by most or starting to be that after death of a painter, artist... look at the history! Do what you love, improuve, we'll all die, but with one difference - what we'll remember before the last moment..
awesome video!!! i feel like this A LOT! I've found what works for me is having like 20 or more tracks im working on at the same time so i dont get too frustrated with one song. I know that this sort of thing doesn't work for everyone but for me spending hours at a time grinding on the same track takes the fun out of it.
The band Phoenix have been making music in a similar way: they'd just record short snippets of ideas and then later pick their favourite ones and make a song from them. That's how they made most of their album Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix.
This is so important and so relevant. Been having similar thoughts about analysis paralysis as well. You fear making the wrong choice or not doing something to the best of your ability that you don't get down to doing the action necessary to make progress and create.
That's so funny I also had this epiphany moment just today! As I was saving my 112th folder (past few weeks worth just jamming out ideas) and was annoyed I hadn't really finished a lot of them. Tbh a lot of them are boring, but it's those little nuggets - 1 in every 10 beats - that actually have potential and the aim was to make a folder of out of them to finish with a Fresh mind later. Love that
That's a very frank, and quite vulnerable answer. Im going to really take on that method and see how it works for me. I really think the conversation around how many ideas are binned, is one that's only ever briefly touched upon. New producers these days seem to think that the song that's released is one that was made in a day in one shot. When in reality it's 10s or 100s of ideas, tweaks, and months of work on the 37th idea of the week. Thank you for this.
This is great advice. One thing I would add that I’ve personally found helpful is not to compare yourself to others. Just do your best and put it out there.
Very very valuable - I'm my own worst enemy too., consistency and dedication is what gets us where we want so this 3x30 rule method is great. I might try 2x30 with my life haha but I will continue forever.
For me, this is the most open and honest thing I've heard about electronic music making, probably because it resonates so much with me. I have hundreds of snippets / riffs sitting on my hard drive that could potential be made into songs but I just don't have that extra drive / desire to take that next step with any of them because I don't believe they're good enough. This short interview has given me hope. Thanks.
Great video, it's really about the flowstate, stop bickering too much and just accepting the stage of your own skills, while also having fun with it! - A lot of my tracks that are released are actually where I went back to those potential wips and put together 1-3 of them, sometimes just rendering the bits from one and trying it with something else can give you that result that you didnt know existed.
I typically only have time to invest in one idea a day, but I try my best not to get too bogged down in the details. I go right for the jugular in the idea, as this will be the core (better than starting with the intro, which I used to do). I also heavily rely on presets and loops to get the idea down, as I don’t want to invest too much time in creating a fancy drum beat or in sound design. So, I heavily rely on Splice for content to get close to what I want, and then maybe tweak a little bit to make it more unique (no more than about 5-10 mins on any one sound though). I’ll also use a reference track to get the main ideas of the song down quickly, as I plan to go back and edit the track later. Also key, I’ll try to create a 4-bar idea, and then just start making unique patterns off of that idea to add variation quickly. And I’ll do this in a different arrangement within the project so I don’t screw with the song structure. And, yes, I rely on FL Studio to do this, as it’s the most freeing DAW I’ve ever used.
whoa I found it at a perfect time. haven't finished music in months, even took a few months break. came back because I couldn't keep not making music and even now after the break I can't seem to enjoy anything I make. I'm so stuck it's hard to even try.
What if you just try to have fun making music? This helps me, as does going into a session focused on "exploring a plugin" instead of "finishing something brilliant".
@@SolStateMusic That's what I figured I'm going to do. I had a pretty fun session yesterday, had a blast! Also, thank you for what you do, that video popping up on my feed helped a lot!
Hey Sol state can you please make a video on market trends and how to find out whoch genre is trending and how to find out the next trend so that we can extend it
Yo solstate do you still have the video where wolfgang gartner showed off his drum techniques? not the video thats availible now but the one where he shows off his layering and shaker techniques? I watched it 7 million years ago and now that Im a more experienced producer I feel like it could actually help a ton
Duke Dumont is using some principles of scrum theory in his work. He's his own scrum master and developer. whatever the approach, make more music. thanks.
@@TC-lk2ev Just looked it up. No, haven't heard that one, but it's not a genre I listen to. I'm not hating, I'm just amazed by how much success a person can have within a niche.
Tbh I can’t do that. It’s like a drug for me to finish what I start I don’t know if it’s because im a classically trained pianist and from my teachings I had to finish a piece and perfect it as much as possible (perfection is not possible obviously) I just can’t move into another idea without finishing the one i started sometimes it takes a week. Sometimes two. But it does get done. I’m very good at that. I don’t get bogged down on one small snippet, I learned to make it even if it doesn’t sound that great and then go back to it later when my project is more established then change it to what it should sound like. Everyone is different. I can’t imagine having a million Ideas in a folder. I will maybe have 1 or even 2. I don’t believe there is a magic formula. It’s just about focus and discipline for your craft. I’ll work 6 hours a day on music. I also learned to take breaks. A lot of them between your sessions. It helps keep your mind fresh from staring at a computer screen constantly. Listen to another genre. Chill, read a book. Go for a walk do whatever but in the end if you really want your music to get there it will find it’s way.
👀Duke Dumont's "Need U 100%" is one of my favorite music videos ever: th-cam.com/video/FnJIb4A-DuY/w-d-xo.html
another banger man, thank you! Here's what I did when I released 52 songs last year, in case someone finds it useful:
I went into my laptop and went to the folder with all my projects. Filtered by date created. Started with earliest date, and did not move on to next project until that project was done. It did not matter if it was good or bad, it was about finishing. I had become a chronic starter. Starting projects and ideas, and couldn't get myself to finish them. By setting the boundary of not moving on to the next project until I finished this one, gave me a sense of relief. The constrictions bred creativity, and songs I thought that would be crap became some of my favorite songs.
We all have the capacity to finish great music once we get to a certain skill level. It's just a matter of seeing it all the way through for each project. Your genuine self as an artist will not allow the song to sound bad. Trust that, push through, and you'll surprise yourself!
52 songs in a year is epic
@@HowardCharlesUK it was a jam packed year that's for sure : ) Felt very weird and almost sad releasing your best songs amongst so many others. There was always this "what if" the world heard my BEST songs. I was holding that in my back pocket as some sort of excuse to myself that that was why I wasn't as big as I wanted to be. Then when you release them and they don't do that well you realize you can do better. Then you actually get better because you broke through that psychological barrier of letting go your most precious babies
Finishing bad ideas you dont feel is not a good idea in my opinion. Making an idea that moves your body and evokes emotion THAT will make your track by it self. Strive for perfect melodies and top lines, only there i find relief.
Respect! As you said "The constrictions bred creativity"
That last line is awesome.
That's exactly what i do. Create Multiple ideas, then go back through and at least one is usually worth finishing and investing more time into.
Thanks Drake, very cool!
Ye i agree with u but if u go thorugh past ideas thas been made a long time a go u will lose the vibe of that idea
when you lose the vibe then the idea is not good enough maybe 🤷🏼♂️
Mike Monday calls them the splurge sessions.
Is that you Drake,?
I've being making sample tapes(not tapes anymore) for years, listen to the ideas on my travels and pick what resonates with me in that moment. i still go back to stuff from 10yrs ago , as i have that many folders of ideas. It's amazing what pops out to you later that you didn't think was all that. The art of finishing is a fine art . great vid!
Thanks for mentioning this. Crazy that work you did 10 years ago can still be helpful.
I highly recommend using Paretto's Effect:
20% of time spent on producing
gives
80% of finished track
Explain
Explain
Google "pareto principle"
It means that 80 lercent of your fi ished songs will come out of 20 percent of the time you spend producing. Its a general statistical trend accross many different disciplines.
80 lercent of results are the product of 20 percent of the activity in any given domain.
@@FDSREWQ Or you can understand it, in this example, that 20% of whole time spent on producing gives 80% of finished song. The 80% of producing is just small details you spend way too much time for
me right now. 2 yrs snoozing this has motivated me to put out all my ideas and organize them. Sol State you a gem for this content ❤️
2:00 "My worst enemy is myself"
This is so true!!!
One of my favorite lines too ;)
I love hearing how he talks about it’s okay to not have a project be perfect. For the longest time every track I did would just go in my trash folder because I stressed too much, and then I just reinforced to have fun accept how things sound and be confident with the decisions I make and projects not only get done faster but I enjoy every part of it.
Never heard him speak before so didn't expect him to be so well spoken and philosophical. Good knowledge
'Burning desire and detachment from outcome'. Be in the flow and enjoy the process
honestly there are a lot of takes on your channel where im like "eeh works for some but its not necessarily the way" but this one is just exactly what ive been feeling for about 3 years now. luckily im not worried about money but people keep telling me i am holding myself back.
We all hold ourselves back more than we realize, including me, and what a bad way to lose the battle (fighting ourselves)! Best of luck with your music
Same bro
This man dropped the formula for greatness.
Wow ! I m a producer since 1993 and i can honestly say … this guy absolutely nailed it !!
Finally! Making music has little to do with music itself. It has more to do with discipline and focus than anything else. Making music, in that sence, is more a sport than an art!
Well said
I love that he's doing this with what looks like a SM58 ❤
Literally, I’ve just stepped away from my computer because I told myself I’m kidding myself and I’m not getting any where and this was the first video I saw when I opened TH-cam…literally just what I needed.
DON’T STOP!!❤️
We've all been there man! As you said, "don't stop" :)
Tried it this week and I already have a folder with like ten ideas. Actually ideas come pretty fast but the way you deal with them defines your productivity. This method will maybe do wonders for me!
I recorded demo songs for years but the worst thing I ever did was play them over and over because I became attached to them. Now when I go in and record them for real i constantly compare to the demo and i'm never satisfied.
Be here is the most underrated and best Duke Dumont song.
There’s a course course called Automatic Music Machine from Make Music Your Life that teaches everything in this video ✅
... Yeah, I love doing what I'm doing and no matter what others think! Most exquisite pieces of art are never undestood by most or starting to be that after death of a painter, artist... look at the history! Do what you love, improuve, we'll all die, but with one difference - what we'll remember before the last moment..
Damn this is so so relatable. Kinda do this on a micro scale , will spend a week on ideas then pick my favourites and develop. Takes that pressure off
awesome video!!! i feel like this A LOT! I've found what works for me is having like 20 or more tracks im working on at the same time so i dont get too frustrated with one song. I know that this sort of thing doesn't work for everyone but for me spending hours at a time grinding on the same track takes the fun out of it.
If it works for YOU, great. I've seen many other producers work this way. As soon as progress slows, onto "that other track".
Sol state, thank you for your tireless work of gathering gems for producers all around the world
The band Phoenix have been making music in a similar way: they'd just record short snippets of ideas and then later pick their favourite ones and make a song from them. That's how they made most of their album Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix.
i miss this channel!! best content in utubeª!!!! huge fann!
This is so important and so relevant. Been having similar thoughts about analysis paralysis as well. You fear making the wrong choice or not doing something to the best of your ability that you don't get down to doing the action necessary to make progress and create.
Exactly! Worry doesn't create musical output
One of the best ones i've seen!
That's so funny I also had this epiphany moment just today! As I was saving my 112th folder (past few weeks worth just jamming out ideas) and was annoyed I hadn't really finished a lot of them. Tbh a lot of them are boring, but it's those little nuggets - 1 in every 10 beats - that actually have potential and the aim was to make a folder of out of them to finish with a Fresh mind later. Love that
Keep up the good work :)
This video is amazing, great advice that I plan to start doing right away
That's a very frank, and quite vulnerable answer. Im going to really take on that method and see how it works for me. I really think the conversation around how many ideas are binned, is one that's only ever briefly touched upon. New producers these days seem to think that the song that's released is one that was made in a day in one shot. When in reality it's 10s or 100s of ideas, tweaks, and months of work on the 37th idea of the week. Thank you for this.
I do the exact same thing... found out that worked for my thankfully years ago! GO ON DUKE! give us more music!
Gotta love Duke.
Really needed this. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
This was great! Much of what was said here resonates with me.
He's not lying. Also this is very good advice.
This is great advice. One thing I would add that I’ve personally found helpful is not to compare yourself to others. Just do your best and put it out there.
Wow I really needed to hear this! Thank you for this
I feel like I sometimes take away more from these broader, more conceptual videos than I do the technical ones
Very very valuable - I'm my own worst enemy too.,
consistency and dedication is what gets us where we want so this 3x30 rule method is great. I might try 2x30 with my life haha but I will continue forever.
For me, this is the most open and honest thing I've heard about electronic music making, probably because it resonates so much with me. I have hundreds of snippets / riffs sitting on my hard drive that could potential be made into songs but I just don't have that extra drive / desire to take that next step with any of them because I don't believe they're good enough. This short interview has given me hope. Thanks.
Amazing advice, Duke is a legend.
Love your break downs Sol State. Thanks man!
This is my situation..really great video! thanks sol state! huge love from korea!
Great video, it's really about the flowstate, stop bickering too much and just accepting the stage of your own skills, while also having fun with it!
- A lot of my tracks that are released are actually where I went back to those potential wips and put together 1-3 of them, sometimes just rendering the bits from one and trying it with something else can give you that result that you didnt know existed.
Then we end up literally moving all the ideas we like, into the working folder. Then bam, we're at square one again.
dang every point in this video struck with me, thanks for putting this out
I typically only have time to invest in one idea a day, but I try my best not to get too bogged down in the details. I go right for the jugular in the idea, as this will be the core (better than starting with the intro, which I used to do). I also heavily rely on presets and loops to get the idea down, as I don’t want to invest too much time in creating a fancy drum beat or in sound design. So, I heavily rely on Splice for content to get close to what I want, and then maybe tweak a little bit to make it more unique (no more than about 5-10 mins on any one sound though). I’ll also use a reference track to get the main ideas of the song down quickly, as I plan to go back and edit the track later.
Also key, I’ll try to create a 4-bar idea, and then just start making unique patterns off of that idea to add variation quickly. And I’ll do this in a different arrangement within the project so I don’t screw with the song structure. And, yes, I rely on FL Studio to do this, as it’s the most freeing DAW I’ve ever used.
whoa I found it at a perfect time. haven't finished music in months, even took a few months break. came back because I couldn't keep not making music and even now after the break I can't seem to enjoy anything I make. I'm so stuck it's hard to even try.
What if you just try to have fun making music? This helps me, as does going into a session focused on "exploring a plugin" instead of "finishing something brilliant".
@@SolStateMusic That's what I figured I'm going to do. I had a pretty fun session yesterday, had a blast! Also, thank you for what you do, that video popping up on my feed helped a lot!
i miss these videos so much!!!
I put a track out 10 years ago that did ok and got me signed… Haven’t released a track since, it’s life crippling.
This is refreshing to hear!
this one a gem!
Hey Sol state can you please make a video on market trends and how to find out whoch genre is trending and how to find out the next trend so that we can extend it
Love to hear shit like that! Needed that today
Glad to hear, go get em :)
We all needed to hear this advice 😼
Great video. Gonna give that 3x30 idea a go.
Me too. That's a lot of ideas by the end of the month
Let us know how it goes! Good luck
Really needed this today
Just what needed. Thx!
Going through exactly the same thing, feel the strain of it but I'll get my tracks done. 💯😎
Awesome- will try this for sure!
Brilliant advice again. Loved this
Thx, i needed this.
Omg this is exactly what I've needed thank you so much
I dont even do edm but i couldnt agree more with this 🔥
I love this channel
Pure gold. 💎⭐️🙌
Holy shit I didn’t realize how much I needed to hear this. Thanks.
Thanks foe the video Sol State 🤘
What was the quiet storm music playing in the background?
The mic just picked up some water noise, wasn't intentional
This just summed up my 30 plus year career 😫.... You kind of know that others feel this way. It's just good to see and hear sometimes ya know😁
Don't worry, just go for it now and do something great 🙏🏼
@@richochet 🙏🏽
Hi what is this original video of him speaking? Thanks! Love the video
What's that piano melody towards the end? I feel like its from a song...
What about chucking 5 ideas in a folder and never listening to them again?
🙌🙌🙌 Thank you so much!
Wow, great advice!
Really cool. Honest and true.
Brilliant videos 👏
Anyone know the background song starting @2:43?
Super dope
Yo solstate do you still have the video where wolfgang gartner showed off his drum techniques? not the video thats availible now but the one where he shows off his layering and shaker techniques? I watched it 7 million years ago and now that Im a more experienced producer I feel like it could actually help a ton
Yo, unfortunately that's not available anymore, but the coolest tip was using super pumpy SC compression on a send. Try it :)
What podcast or interview is this taken from? I’m sure that’s been asked already but I couldn’t find it...
check description
Duke Dumont is using some principles of scrum theory in his work. He's his own scrum master and developer. whatever the approach, make more music. thanks.
very humble.
I start something that I'll love.
Hour or two later. I hate it haha.
Yes! 2023!
Can anyone tell me what track is going in the background in "start with yourself" chapter? Thank you in advance!
i need that too
I’ve been doing this without even realizing that already exist
"rather than procrastinating on that high hat" why you gonna call me out like this
last time I came this fast, we broke up
Great advice
Well I feel validated
Never even heard of this guy. Wild how many musicians there are out there.
You’ve probably heard his song I got U. It’s a certified banger
@@TC-lk2ev Just looked it up. No, haven't heard that one, but it's not a genre I listen to. I'm not hating, I'm just amazed by how much success a person can have within a niche.
@@user82938 Yeah that's fair enough. I think that tropical house genre is pretty much dead now anyway, but still, that song is a hummer.
Where is the og interview?
In description under "Pat Lok"
Was he coached by Mike Monday? Because it sounds like he was
pure facts.
holy shit this hits close
thanks
Tbh I can’t do that. It’s like a drug for me to finish what I start I don’t know if it’s because im a classically trained pianist and from my teachings I had to finish a piece and perfect it as much as possible (perfection is not possible obviously) I just can’t move into another idea without finishing the one i started sometimes it takes a week. Sometimes two. But it does get done. I’m very good at that. I don’t get bogged down on one small snippet, I learned to make it even if it doesn’t sound that great and then go back to it later when my project is more established then change it to what it should sound like. Everyone is different. I can’t imagine having a million Ideas in a folder. I will maybe have 1 or even 2. I don’t believe there is a magic formula. It’s just about focus and discipline for your craft. I’ll work 6 hours a day on music. I also learned to take breaks. A lot of them between your sessions. It helps keep your mind fresh from staring at a computer screen constantly. Listen to another genre. Chill, read a book. Go for a walk do whatever but in the end if you really want your music to get there it will find it’s way.
That's me in a nutshell