I got into tanking during DF and i had a blast. It was so much fun to be honest. I even said to myself that from now on i will always main a tank. But then this expansion happened...I dont know whats wrong but its just wrong... Tanks are too weak atm and mob dmg is just way unbalanced. It would be totally understandable that if you made a mistake on high end content you die fast, its supposed to be a challenge after all, but right now i see tanks getting deleted by mobs even on low keys and no one can prevent it.. It doesnt matter if healer is good because they cant do anything when tank literally dies in a single global from even small packs. Having to constantly fight for your life even on low keys is just broken.
I'm hearing this a lot by people that run keys I wonder why Blizz isn't really taking action yet. Tanks seem to be in dire need of survivability buffs, is that right?
@@prymuzgaming I think they need to balance how much dmg we recieve... Feels like we are all glass cannons... Its not just the tanks, way too often it happens that someone gets one one shot from random damage. I am okay if someone stands/walks into some aoe pool and dies, but its totally different story when that pool spawns below your feet and you die before you can even walk out... Lets say that average human reaction time is like 0.2~0.5 seconds, but there are mechanics that spawn under your feet and by the time you get to react you already took damage, and half a second later it will tick again and you will have to pop defensives and run for your life... Add to that obscene amounts of knockbacks, mechanics, stuns, debufs etc and healers having to focus tanks like crazy so people end up dead too easily.
I just started tanking last year. I love it. I prepare a few macros that say things in chat like “Thank you healer”, “Nicely done”, etc. it’s amazing how that little thing helps people have more fun.
It's really hard to say because the balancing of tanking is difficult, you can't buff them too much so that they can do m+ alone, like in Schadowlands, let alone like in Cata, that they can tank and deal damage like a whole raid group together, But I think a start would be to slightly revise the tank classes separately, not like they currently did, which felt like they were being adjusted for everyone at the same time
@@prymuzgaming Exactly, I don't know how all tanks work to be honest. But what I got is that they all play almost the same, the only exception is the monk because he has to work with your damage delay, but otherwise every class is basically the same, only in one other skin the mechanics are the same self healing damage reduction nothing more some work more with healing others with reducing the damage taken example warrior and blood Dk's representative of damage reduction and self healing maybe I see this wrong can also be a good thing
@@prymuzgaming The tank could have special tank mechanics, I'll give the druids an example. What I'm saying may sound very strange, but I would COMPLETELY take away heal from the druid itself and focus his skills more on reducing the damage he takes and armor and put his ability more on reflecting damage like with the thorn skill when tree bark is active, paladins could e.g. Group healers will not be able to use healing per se, but when the holy power is full their skill will heal group members, but not twice in a row, so they are forced to trigger other effects (I know that wouldn't be easy to balance either, but it would be a possibility to make tanks unique)
@Grodarados I like this. But I guess they would have to tune them differently for solo play then. I recall some tanks not really being good to play around Wotlk and probably earlier as they lacked some healing ( not all of them ) So that they don't depend on others while leveling /open world gaming I think. But all in all I really like this approach, I tend to tinker and ponder a lot about ideas for classes and mechanics 😀
The responsibility is real. But the role has gotten more demanding, but the real problem is the frustration with the continue nerfs to all tank specs. Tanks need a tool kit to gather and control mobs. Then they need tools for sustainability. All of these tools have been nerves to a point of major frustration.
i had one guy in an mmo who looked like a tree, named Ent King, was a tank, had a macro that said "Hey (enemies name)!!! Only YOU can prevent forest fires!!" and other little quirky comments. was fun to team with him.
I’ve tank mained for 12 years. Took 2-4 years off( briefly came back during dragon flight). Came back this round and it just feels horrible. Trying to do plus 2 as a tank and people just talking crap the whole time/ wtf tank. You don’t know the route? They talk crap instead of just taking 30 seconds to explain what I did wrong. The breaking point was during first boss of city of echoes I think where the tank needs to keep the big spider away from the ads. As a tank I naturally just wanted to grab ads so they don’t attack dps. Instead of saying this is the only time you’ll not want to grab ads they say wtf is your problem tank. lol. So I’ve been dpsing since then. It’s a game. Why the fuck should I have to do homework before a fight not to have toxic behavior. You people run off every tank and healer and wonder why queue times are so long. Sitting in keys with 3 dps waiting for a tank and healer to queue
I think my greatest problem is simple the fact to not hold. Aggro fast enough and die to fast I mean I used to play tank Pala. Back in wod and half way through legion but even with gear I was often like paper :/
@@prymuzgaming I've currently changed my class, I'm currently a dot a lot warlock but in DF I was a guardian dudu and when War within came out I quickly noticed that my self-heal had dropped because the damage I ate was basically 10x I also tried to tank in dungeons but there was too much damage, not enough self-healing and I even had some problems with the aggro. That doesn't mean I'm giving up on tanking completely. I've created a new paladin because I'm leveling up again so I can get the feeling back
@Grodarados sad to hear you want to quit tanking. I feel this is a problem on Blizzards end tho , seems they broke tanks for anything m+ related. Mitigation seems completely broken in a bad way, are you enjoying warlock alot? 🙂
@@prymuzgaming well maybe i come back to tanking like i said i created a paladin again to relearn it step by step but at the moment i enjoy a another class i never touched before ^^
The community treats tanks like shit for years so everyone stops playing them then the same people make videos crying about the lack of tanks. Interesting.
@ where does the fear or apprehension come from mostly? The community. I understand where he’s coming from and I wasn’t calling him out for doing this. I was just making a point. Being a tank running normals and heroic isn’t too bad. Anything after that is a sh*tshow.
@@Grodarados thanks that's exactly what I'm aiming for 😊 it seems that a lot of folks get called out in dungeons nowadays I feel like that needs to be addressed.
@@boneheded2819true M+ in particular I feel is a real breeding ground for people being super bad toward one another. Mostly in Random groups most likely!
I leveled a monk as a tank and really like the playstyle and spec. I geared up in delves and quests to get 580ish. Did 2 dungeons had the worst experience of everyone just scattering and pulling stuff themselves then complaining when they now have a group of 5 running at them because i wasntnrunning that way. The juggle of dealing eith idiots and trying to do your job just feels bad, and then theres the toxicity
@@Roan0ke Been there way too often. This has been a thing ever since the LFG tool was released at least. But these things happen and I hope you won't let this ruin your tanking fun 😊🍀🍀🍀
I always played with a group of friends, and as a DPS I decided to level up a tank and started doing timewalking. I noticed that the mentality of DPS players is very strange. We went to fight Mr. Smite (Deadmines) and two patrols came along. Instead of killing them, everyone focused all their damage on the boss. When we were hit by Smite Stomp, a 10-second stun for the whole party, I died. After being resurrected, they kept hitting the boss, which caused him to use the skill again. The healer and I died, and the group kicked me. I was playing as a monk and didn't have many defensive skills at the time, but after that, I gave up on the character! In that kind of situation, I would have focused on killing the adds as quickly as possible because I know it takes the pressure off the tank and healer. In a few seconds, the two adds would be dead and the fight would be only against the boss!
The first thing you have to learn when picking up a tank is to realize most dps are brainless apes who have no responsibilities but deal out all the blame.
no front or nothing, but the higher content you gonna play the more this BDK talents will hold you back, Purgatory is an absolute must, duo to the fact that BDk is VERY likely to get killed inbetween globals, thats your safety net. Mark of Blood seems nice but in reality it hinder's you to get more dancing rune weapons which is your bread and Butter in the end duo to Insatiable Blade, Tombstone and Bonestorm, both use up to 5 charges of your boneshield which equals to 25+sec each cd reduction on your weapon.. Furthermore Building runic power in order to spend it on deathstrike is basicly 85% of what you do therefore are Heartbreaker+Ossuary extremely valueble, just a few points. Red Thirst is also extremely valueble even if you dislike Umbillicious Eternus, Rune Tap the higher content you run, your are morelikely to be in need of trading a dmg reduction CD to live Tankbusters
@@Krolot0101 I hear what you're saying, however I feel your argument is coming from an M+ point of view right? I focus on anything prior to that in this video, as I try to speak to folks who suffer from tanking anxiety, which I presume means most wouldn't do much M+ at all. Or perhaps they tried it and might have stepped back from it after some bad experiences. Of course for (higher) keys I wouldn't just run into it with a spec like this. 🙂
@@seansherburne9535 If you consider leveling up by tanking you might actually learn that it doesn't have to be this difficult and toxic for yourself. Eventually it will become easier and after that it might just become second nature 🙂
@@mikesgamer12 Just referring to the mechanics/routes in raids and inis and how you have to watch hours of videos, take notes, use dungeon guides while playing. You can know how to play your character, but wrong placement, use of cd’s, or group pulls can lead to a quick wipe.
@seansherburne9535 what? You don't have to spend hours doing any of that. If your doing the top end of keys everyone has to know. But up to 10s you can go in and just learn mechanics just by playing the game blind. You don't have to spend hours watching videos or reading wowhead
I was a top ranking tank until MOP, got out of the game sinse then. this christmas I've played a bit on my brother's account, imediatly reactivated my account, but just dps, because I was definetly scared of tanking again after so many years (I do remember the pressure of being the dungeon "master").... after watching your first video this morning, I just loged into my (newly made and fresh leveled) paladin, respec to prot and.... I had a blast, even when I got sort of lost on a dungeon, it was absolutelly fun, I had a great time tanking again, don't believe I'll be top ranking again anytime soon, but I hope I can get good enought to at least start mithic+
@ondamixtape very often with paladins they take too much damage,when their shield of the righteous is not up. And it's a buff you need to keep up 24/7 as much as possible, trying to up Haste for this purpose is quiet feasible! Then use all the defensive CD's at your disposal. Ardent Defender is quit good cause it has a low CD. But all of them are good. Doing high DPS is not really their prio tho. If you like , check out my other tanking anxiety video , I show some things for protection paladins there. But it's by no means a "real" Paladin guide 🙂🙂🍀🍀 Good luck friendo!
To overcome tanking anxiety you must master this 1:Don't care what anyone says, even if it's an insult. Just smile don't care and keep going :) 2:watch youtube guides on each dungeon to learn common routes and dungeon mechanics/. 3:that's it.
@prymuzgaming agreed! You can learn it by doing it. When you jump into mythic Plus a lot of people might expect you to already know, and you might get some flame for that, and not knowing which packs to pool. But if you're okay with that you can certainly learn that way!
@@timleahy488 This is very true, I feel like it helps to take some time off the game sometimes to kind of relax from that and / or do some other things in game that you might not have considered yet. Or just play something else for a few days etc. At least it helps me when I feel like everything is overwhelmingly bad right now.
@@timleahy488 Yeah as I said , someone kinda tried to push me to PULL BIGGER!!!!! and it resulted in a wipe. It's not always easy staying YOUR course but it's worth trying imo 🤔🍀🍀
eh i disagree, doesnt even matter what TF others say, stay realistic be true to your self, was it your fault ? mostlikely not to kill a key it usually needs more then the tank pulling too little, what im trying to say is, compare with other tanks ( VoD's/Streams/Guide's) if you are running a route that works in a lets say +1 higher key (or even plenty higher) then it surely will work with the toxic peeps that cant even handle it, in the end 1 key doesnt matter 1 mistake doesnt matter 1 brick doesnt matter, all that matters is that you learn to stay tanky, pull accordingly to your Deff's aswell as DPS Offensive CD's, and up to the point of 15 16, small and safe is better then big and Brick no matter who say's it :D....and what IF your ARE the problem? who care's aslong you work on it? watch your own gameplay back if your are uncertain, cause no matter how good or close to 0,1% you are there will never be a run where anyone will play picture perfect, so uncap your Caps LOCK, breath and get better step by step
@@Krolot0101 One should always strive to improve right? That's never been in doubt of course. But in order to improve in these competitive game modes one should start feeling comfortable and confident in the general tanking world before being even remotely able to do so. That's why I focus on all content prior to mythic dungeons here. 😊
The follower dungeons are made for this Get your practice in learn the maps before jumping in with real people Join groups running world bosses pretty low stakes
@@pokeball976 actual good tip‼️ I was considering adding follower dungeons in this video but I might actually do another installment with this included, we'll see. But this is actually a super viable tip to practice!
@@RukkuHeizen yes unfortunately 😔 It's crazy. Had it happen like twice when I was afk quickly during a run and was getting kicked the moment I returned. :-/
@ Mythic+ content by design assumes that the higher the difficulty, the more responsibility each player has. Strong and well-coordinated groups that are assembled taking into account the synergy of classes show wonders in Mythic Dungeons International. But even a group that has assembled through the LFG system can ensure a smooth passage of the M+ 10 key, if each player uses the entire arsenal of his class to achieve victory. It's just that now people often do not understand that m +10 is like m+ 20 a year and a half ago. and just standing in a puddle of fire and pressing 3 rotation buttons is not enough.
@cyberbanshee so it's all just coming down to coordination? People are being scared to tank is mostly connected to the social component of the game imo, so you might be on to something. But this is only assuming m+ people wouldn't tank anything leading up to m+ either 🤔
i think the main problem is tanking and healing beeing just a support role and because they are support roles there is tons of downtime. tanking feels like passing the ball to the dps people so they can score/have fun. for example in the dungeon grim batol there are 4 dangerous monster types you have to be aware of as a tank. the rest of the dungeon is gather, have aggro,kick and wait for the other people to have fun. healing has tons of downtime aswell where you just follow dispell and cast chain lightning. aslong as those roles are just support roles less people will be interested in them.
@@hanspeter1910 that's an interesting take. So basically tanks and healers need more action or more to do during said down time? Not just doing a generic rotation?
@@prymuzgaming as a dps i feel like i have to prove myself on every pull in dps. i even have 2 other dps to compete with. but as a tank the dungeons feel like a shore. im playing usually with 4 friends and we have one guy who loves healing so thats great for us but we switch the tank every 3 dungeons because noone wants to tank for the whole evening. if the rotation would be abit harder and tanks would deal the same dmg as a dps but the dungeon would restrict you from bringing more than one tank spec. i think in that case you would compete with the other 3 dps and that would solve the problem for me personally
@hanspeter1910 I kind of agree, I just think blizzard is not quite capable to tune this damage option enough so it's not too high or too low. We've seen this in cata with the Vengeance buff. Hopefully they figure something out soon. I like tanking as long as it's not about being competitive personally
Good video! I wait more videos about tanking, it's really interesting topic
@@Reltarek Thank you! I will most likely cover more tanking stuff in the future, but it's not my main sole focus 😁
I got into tanking during DF and i had a blast. It was so much fun to be honest. I even said to myself that from now on i will always main a tank. But then this expansion happened...I dont know whats wrong but its just wrong... Tanks are too weak atm and mob dmg is just way unbalanced. It would be totally understandable that if you made a mistake on high end content you die fast, its supposed to be a challenge after all, but right now i see tanks getting deleted by mobs even on low keys and no one can prevent it.. It doesnt matter if healer is good because they cant do anything when tank literally dies in a single global from even small packs. Having to constantly fight for your life even on low keys is just broken.
I'm hearing this a lot by people that run keys I wonder why Blizz isn't really taking action yet.
Tanks seem to be in dire need of survivability buffs, is that right?
@@prymuzgaming I think they need to balance how much dmg we recieve... Feels like we are all glass cannons... Its not just the tanks, way too often it happens that someone gets one one shot from random damage. I am okay if someone stands/walks into some aoe pool and dies, but its totally different story when that pool spawns below your feet and you die before you can even walk out... Lets say that average human reaction time is like 0.2~0.5 seconds, but there are mechanics that spawn under your feet and by the time you get to react you already took damage, and half a second later it will tick again and you will have to pop defensives and run for your life... Add to that obscene amounts of knockbacks, mechanics, stuns, debufs etc and healers having to focus tanks like crazy so people end up dead too easily.
I quit doing mythics this patch content and do other things. I still love to tank and do time walking.
I just started tanking last year. I love it. I prepare a few macros that say things in chat like “Thank you healer”, “Nicely done”, etc. it’s amazing how that little thing helps people have more fun.
That is a wonderful approach! Loving the of those macros.
Do you Tank Mythics as well or heroics and Raids?
@ I’m not doing mythics this patch. I did in season 4 of DF. I play to have fun, not to be punished. 😀
@litebkt haha I feel this SOOOO much ‼️‼️
My fav quote: "I'd play m+ but I don't hate myself enough to do it " 😂
Love the video mate!!
@@unscheduled_gaming cheers mate! Thanks for the kind words 🙏🏻😊
Thank you great vid
@@jcf3996 thanks a lot , I'm trying my best 🙏🏻😊😊
What is YOUR opinion on the current tanking situation?
How can we make lives easier for tanks so that we are more comfortable? 🤔🍀🍀🍀
It's really hard to say because the balancing of tanking is difficult, you can't buff them too much so that they can do m+ alone, like in Schadowlands, let alone like in Cata, that they can tank and deal damage like a whole raid group together, But I think a start would be to slightly revise the tank classes separately, not like they currently did, which felt like they were being adjusted for everyone at the same time
@Grodarados interesting do you mean like giving them different strengths they excel at? Like one is more mobile ,the other does more damage etc..?
@@prymuzgaming Exactly, I don't know how all tanks work to be honest. But what I got is that they all play almost the same, the only exception is the monk because he has to work with your damage delay, but otherwise every class is basically the same, only in one other skin the mechanics are the same self healing damage reduction nothing more some work more with healing others with reducing the damage taken example warrior and blood Dk's representative of damage reduction and self healing maybe I see this wrong can also be a good thing
@@prymuzgaming The tank could have special tank mechanics, I'll give the druids an example. What I'm saying may sound very strange, but I would COMPLETELY take away heal from the druid itself and focus his skills more on reducing the damage he takes and armor and put his ability more on reflecting damage like with the thorn skill when tree bark is active, paladins could e.g. Group healers will not be able to use healing per se, but when the holy power is full their skill will heal group members, but not twice in a row, so they are forced to trigger other effects (I know that wouldn't be easy to balance either, but it would be a possibility to make tanks unique)
@Grodarados I like this. But I guess they would have to tune them differently for solo play then. I recall some tanks not really being good to play around Wotlk and probably earlier as they lacked some healing ( not all of them )
So that they don't depend on others while leveling /open world gaming I think.
But all in all I really like this approach, I tend to tinker and ponder a lot about ideas for classes and mechanics 😀
The responsibility is real. But the role has gotten more demanding, but the real problem is the frustration with the continue nerfs to all tank specs. Tanks need a tool kit to gather and control mobs. Then they need tools for sustainability. All of these tools have been nerves to a point of major frustration.
i had one guy in an mmo who looked like a tree, named Ent King, was a tank, had a macro that said "Hey (enemies name)!!! Only YOU can prevent forest fires!!" and other little quirky comments. was fun to team with him.
@@TheHelionOmega lol that actually sounds like a lot of fun was that US or EU ? 😊
I’ve tank mained for 12 years. Took 2-4 years off( briefly came back during dragon flight). Came back this round and it just feels horrible. Trying to do plus 2 as a tank and people just talking crap the whole time/ wtf tank. You don’t know the route? They talk crap instead of just taking 30 seconds to explain what I did wrong. The breaking point was during first boss of city of echoes I think where the tank needs to keep the big spider away from the ads. As a tank I naturally just wanted to grab ads so they don’t attack dps. Instead of saying this is the only time you’ll not want to grab ads they say wtf is your problem tank. lol.
So I’ve been dpsing since then. It’s a game. Why the fuck should I have to do homework before a fight not to have toxic behavior. You people run off every tank and healer and wonder why queue times are so long. Sitting in keys with 3 dps waiting for a tank and healer to queue
Same here Pissed off and frustrated about the DPS community in general who expect to gear up off the hard pre-work of the tank.
I think my greatest problem is simple the fact to not hold. Aggro fast enough and die to fast I mean I used to play tank Pala. Back in wod and half way through legion but even with gear I was often like paper :/
@@Grodarados maybe you can adjust your spec a little, what are you playing M+ ?
Are you in higher keys?
@@prymuzgaming I've currently changed my class, I'm currently a dot a lot warlock but in DF I was a guardian dudu and when War within came out I quickly noticed that my self-heal had dropped because the damage I ate was basically 10x I also tried to tank in dungeons but there was too much damage, not enough self-healing and I even had some problems with the aggro. That doesn't mean I'm giving up on tanking completely. I've created a new paladin because I'm leveling up again so I can get the feeling back
@Grodarados sad to hear you want to quit tanking. I feel this is a problem on Blizzards end tho , seems they broke tanks for anything m+ related. Mitigation seems completely broken in a bad way, are you enjoying warlock alot? 🙂
@@prymuzgaming well maybe i come back to tanking like i said i created a paladin again to relearn it step by step but at the moment i enjoy a another class i never touched before ^^
The community treats tanks like shit for years so everyone stops playing them then the same people make videos crying about the lack of tanks. Interesting.
He wasn't crying about the lack of tanks... He is trying to take the fear of tanking away from. People so more tanks are coming back...
@ where does the fear or apprehension come from mostly? The community. I understand where he’s coming from and I wasn’t calling him out for doing this. I was just making a point. Being a tank running normals and heroic isn’t too bad. Anything after that is a sh*tshow.
@@Grodarados thanks that's exactly what I'm aiming for 😊 it seems that a lot of folks get called out in dungeons nowadays I feel like that needs to be addressed.
@@boneheded2819true M+ in particular I feel is a real breeding ground for people being super bad toward one another. Mostly in Random groups most likely!
I leveled a monk as a tank and really like the playstyle and spec. I geared up in delves and quests to get 580ish. Did 2 dungeons had the worst experience of everyone just scattering and pulling stuff themselves then complaining when they now have a group of 5 running at them because i wasntnrunning that way.
The juggle of dealing eith idiots and trying to do your job just feels bad, and then theres the toxicity
@@Roan0ke Been there way too often. This has been a thing ever since the LFG tool was released at least.
But these things happen and I hope you won't let this ruin your tanking fun 😊🍀🍀🍀
I always played with a group of friends, and as a DPS I decided to level up a tank and started doing timewalking. I noticed that the mentality of DPS players is very strange. We went to fight Mr. Smite (Deadmines) and two patrols came along. Instead of killing them, everyone focused all their damage on the boss. When we were hit by Smite Stomp, a 10-second stun for the whole party, I died. After being resurrected, they kept hitting the boss, which caused him to use the skill again. The healer and I died, and the group kicked me. I was playing as a monk and didn't have many defensive skills at the time, but after that, I gave up on the character!
In that kind of situation, I would have focused on killing the adds as quickly as possible because I know it takes the pressure off the tank and healer. In a few seconds, the two adds would be dead and the fight would be only against the boss!
The first thing you have to learn when picking up a tank is to realize most dps are brainless apes who have no responsibilities but deal out all the blame.
no front or nothing, but the higher content you gonna play the more this BDK talents will hold you back, Purgatory is an absolute must, duo to the fact that BDk is VERY likely to get killed inbetween globals, thats your safety net. Mark of Blood seems nice but in reality it hinder's you to get more dancing rune weapons which is your bread and Butter in the end duo to Insatiable Blade, Tombstone and Bonestorm, both use up to 5 charges of your boneshield which equals to 25+sec each cd reduction on your weapon.. Furthermore Building runic power in order to spend it on deathstrike is basicly 85% of what you do therefore are Heartbreaker+Ossuary extremely valueble, just a few points. Red Thirst is also extremely valueble even if you dislike Umbillicious Eternus, Rune Tap the higher content you run, your are morelikely to be in need of trading a dmg reduction CD to live Tankbusters
@@Krolot0101 I hear what you're saying, however I feel your argument is coming from an M+ point of view right?
I focus on anything prior to that in this video, as I try to speak to folks who suffer from tanking anxiety, which I presume means most wouldn't do much M+ at all. Or perhaps they tried it and might have stepped back from it after some bad experiences.
Of course for (higher) keys I wouldn't just run into it with a spec like this. 🙂
@@prymuzgaming wow has a major toxic problem . dps need to be more considerate to to tanks and healers
Yes you do. Unless you are willing to study and take notes on every instance/ raid and learn all boss mechanics before ever stepping foot in them.
@@seansherburne9535 If you consider leveling up by tanking you might actually learn that it doesn't have to be this difficult and toxic for yourself.
Eventually it will become easier and after that it might just become second nature 🙂
You say that like you have to sit there and spend hours doing all that lol
@@mikesgamer12 Just referring to the mechanics/routes in raids and inis and how you have to watch hours of videos, take notes, use dungeon guides while playing. You can know how to play your character, but wrong placement, use of cd’s, or group pulls can lead to a quick wipe.
@seansherburne9535 what? You don't have to spend hours doing any of that. If your doing the top end of keys everyone has to know. But up to 10s you can go in and just learn mechanics just by playing the game blind. You don't have to spend hours watching videos or reading wowhead
I was a top ranking tank until MOP, got out of the game sinse then. this christmas I've played a bit on my brother's account, imediatly reactivated my account, but just dps, because I was definetly scared of tanking again after so many years (I do remember the pressure of being the dungeon "master").... after watching your first video this morning, I just loged into my (newly made and fresh leveled) paladin, respec to prot and.... I had a blast, even when I got sort of lost on a dungeon, it was absolutelly fun, I had a great time tanking again, don't believe I'll be top ranking again anytime soon, but I hope I can get good enought to at least start mithic+
tanking is very hard
@@ondamixtape what is giving you particular trouble?
Of course practicing helps 🙂
@@prymuzgaming i am pal tank. I take too much dmg and i deal no damage.
@ondamixtape very often with paladins they take too much damage,when their shield of the righteous is not up.
And it's a buff you need to keep up 24/7 as much as possible, trying to up Haste for this purpose is quiet feasible!
Then use all the defensive CD's at your disposal.
Ardent Defender is quit good cause it has a low CD.
But all of them are good. Doing high DPS is not really their prio tho.
If you like , check out my other tanking anxiety video , I show some things for protection paladins there. But it's by no means a "real" Paladin guide
🙂🙂🍀🍀 Good luck friendo!
@@ondamixtape So you are the opposite of all the pala tanks out there lol
Tank from launch to BFA never again… not worth it.
@@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons do you refer to M+ ?
Or heroics and raids as well?
Had a bad experience?
To overcome tanking anxiety you must master this
1:Don't care what anyone says, even if it's an insult. Just smile don't care and keep going :)
2:watch youtube guides on each dungeon to learn common routes and dungeon mechanics/.
3:that's it.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk well said ! Thanks for summarizing it like this ☺️
However I feel like you can learn the routes by doing it as well🙂
@prymuzgaming agreed! You can learn it by doing it. When you jump into mythic Plus a lot of people might expect you to already know, and you might get some flame for that, and not knowing which packs to pool.
But if you're okay with that you can certainly learn that way!
You simply can't hekili your way to being a tank.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE GAME IS THE TOXIC PEOPLE IT WILL DRIVE ME AWAY AGAIN SO SAD
BIGGER PULLS FASTER FASTER DON'T DO IT UR THE PROBLEM
@@timleahy488 This is very true, I feel like it helps to take some time off the game sometimes to kind of relax from that and / or do some other things in game that you might not have considered yet.
Or just play something else for a few days etc.
At least it helps me when I feel like everything is overwhelmingly bad right now.
@@timleahy488 Yeah as I said , someone kinda tried to push me to PULL BIGGER!!!!!
and it resulted in a wipe.
It's not always easy staying YOUR course but it's worth trying imo 🤔🍀🍀
eh i disagree, doesnt even matter what TF others say, stay realistic be true to your self, was it your fault ? mostlikely not to kill a key it usually needs more then the tank pulling too little, what im trying to say is, compare with other tanks ( VoD's/Streams/Guide's) if you are running a route that works in a lets say +1 higher key (or even plenty higher) then it surely will work with the toxic peeps that cant even handle it, in the end 1 key doesnt matter 1 mistake doesnt matter 1 brick doesnt matter, all that matters is that you learn to stay tanky, pull accordingly to your Deff's aswell as DPS Offensive CD's, and up to the point of 15 16, small and safe is better then big and Brick no matter who say's it :D....and what IF your ARE the problem? who care's aslong you work on it? watch your own gameplay back if your are uncertain, cause no matter how good or close to 0,1% you are there will never be a run where anyone will play picture perfect, so uncap your Caps LOCK, breath and get better step by step
@@Krolot0101 One should always strive to improve right? That's never been in doubt of course.
But in order to improve in these competitive game modes one should start feeling comfortable and confident in the general tanking world before being even remotely able to do so.
That's why I focus on all content prior to mythic dungeons here. 😊
The follower dungeons are made for this
Get your practice in learn the maps before jumping in with real people
Join groups running world bosses pretty low stakes
@@pokeball976 actual good tip‼️ I was considering adding follower dungeons in this video but I might actually do another installment with this included, we'll see.
But this is actually a super viable tip to practice!
you get deserter if you're kicked now? i dont pug
@@RukkuHeizen yes unfortunately 😔
It's crazy. Had it happen like twice when I was afk quickly during a run and was getting kicked the moment I returned.
:-/
Not scared to Tank, just don't need the idiotic BS from players that have no life and think this GAME is worth being an asshole over!
Alredy 2500 io in Guardian druid and prot pala , must say this exp and seasion was the worst one
@@diogotrindade982 well gz tho ! I guess that was quite a bit of work eh?
@prymuzgaming miss the days when we were so dependent on the healers
@diogotrindade982 I kinda like being self sufficient tho, but I hear you, 😉
The problem with tanking is that the content is too difficult for most players.
@@jasonweiss3160 which one?
M+ ? I've not tanked anything Mythic this season myself.
No, it’s not so difficult. Ppl (mostly DDs) just don’t want to kick the casts and use some of their defensive abilities.
@cyberbanshee you.think people need to be more attentive in these situations then ? 🤔
@ Mythic+ content by design assumes that the higher the difficulty, the more responsibility each player has. Strong and well-coordinated groups that are assembled taking into account the synergy of classes show wonders in Mythic Dungeons International. But even a group that has assembled through the LFG system can ensure a smooth passage of the M+ 10 key, if each player uses the entire arsenal of his class to achieve victory. It's just that now people often do not understand that m +10 is like m+ 20 a year and a half ago. and just standing in a puddle of fire and pressing 3 rotation buttons is not enough.
@cyberbanshee so it's all just coming down to coordination?
People are being scared to tank is mostly connected to the social component of the game imo, so you might be on to something. But this is only assuming m+ people wouldn't tank anything leading up to m+ either 🤔
i think the main problem is tanking and healing beeing just a support role and because they are support roles there is tons of downtime. tanking feels like passing the ball to the dps people so they can score/have fun. for example in the dungeon grim batol there are 4 dangerous monster types you have to be aware of as a tank. the rest of the dungeon is gather, have aggro,kick and wait for the other people to have fun. healing has tons of downtime aswell where you just follow dispell and cast chain lightning. aslong as those roles are just support roles less people will be interested in them.
@@hanspeter1910 that's an interesting take. So basically tanks and healers need more action or more to do during said down time? Not just doing a generic rotation?
@@prymuzgaming as a dps i feel like i have to prove myself on every pull in dps. i even have 2 other dps to compete with. but as a tank the dungeons feel like a shore. im playing usually with 4 friends and we have one guy who loves healing so thats great for us but we switch the tank every 3 dungeons because noone wants to tank for the whole evening. if the rotation would be abit harder and tanks would deal the same dmg as a dps but the dungeon would restrict you from bringing more than one tank spec. i think in that case you would compete with the other 3 dps and that would solve the problem for me personally
@hanspeter1910 I kind of agree, I just think blizzard is not quite capable to tune this damage option enough so it's not too high or too low.
We've seen this in cata with the Vengeance buff. Hopefully they figure something out soon.
I like tanking as long as it's not about being competitive personally