My late father in law would have enjoyed this v much. He was on the original and v small design team working with Geoffrey de Havilland on the Mosquito. He used to cycle everyday from Hatfield to Salisbury Hall. His first job was designing the crew entry door.
@@PeoplesMosquito he talked at length about it and I was v interested. I applied to the RAF for pilot training but was turned down, eyesight. I eventually got a PPL and IMC. My wife’s family, father, uncle and brother were career RAF officers. I live 15 miles from Hastings and until I saw your video on TH-cam this morning didn’t know of your existence.
Only just found this channel, glad I have! One of my bestest fave planes of all time n the sound of those planes on wood :) TFS 'thanks for sharing, GB :)
I just read how a Mosquito was painstakingly rebuilt in New Zealand and featured in this month's (Dec. '21) Popular Mechanics. It was a fantastic article. What is takes to restore a wooden frame aircraft was impressive.
I was exhausted just watching! A great insight into the 'effort' required. Looking forward to the next video. My Mother was a Leading Aircraftwoman in the RAF in WW2 and could disassemble and rebuild a Merlin Engine and did work on Mosquitoes along with Spits, Hurricanes and Lancaster Bombers. I remember her saying she had reservations about the wooden construction at the time.
Thanks guys! Grand work, my (deceased) brother would be proud of all your work, he used to 'brag' about when his planes or chisels were sharp he would gently shave the top layer of his skin on his finger!! Anyway, fantastic work and wishing you well and stay safe there too!!
Yes a neighbour was a Navigator in one of these Master Pieces ... and was priviledged to be able to take Photos of its first public display flights with my Hasselblad and 500mm lens on a Monopod . Absolutely amazing if not Menising view of the Siloette as it first came into view attacking Aerodrome at High speed especially with the howl of the merlins at max normal power setting ... Amazing good luck with your Build ...
I so wish I had given you the money I spent becoming a Silver shareholder in the ‘Canberra to the Sky’ project. The irony is that they had proven themselves with ‘Vulcan to the Sky’ and had an airframe to start with, so you seemed the more risky. However you are getting on and doing things. They don’t seem to be.
@@charlesbarbour2331 We appreciate there are several projects out there all asking for support. Delighted to be showing you some solid progress - more to come!
It is a lot of work to build up the 'plug' by completly filling the space between stations/formers. I guess the force that will be applied on the plug to bond/form the wood skins would be too great to simply have use longerons instead ? . That being said nice work and looking forward to see the project progress !
These videos are great! My grandfather worked for Boeing in Vancouver, BC, Canada on the Mosquito tailplane assembly. It's interesting to see this being brought to life now. I've got some old memos from his time there, if you're interested.
alexjh47 Hi Alex, thanks for the great feedback and for the context about your grandfather. We’d be most interested in seeing copies of those memos you mentioned! Feel free to drop the team a line via info@peoplesmosquito.org.uk - they might be of interest to our build partner, Retrotec!
I'm curious to know just how fine the craftsmanship could have been in the midst of a war, when there was an urgency to producing aircraft. I suppose once the mold is made, there could be some kind of production line set up. Nice to see the work taking shape!
This is very interesting to watch, but it does explain why it took so long to get the moulds made. The project needs to get a professional site carpenter to give tips on how to speed up the process e.g. have 2 cordless drills, one with the drill bit and the other with a countersunk bit, or a combined drill/countersink, also use screws in a strip, not individually inserted.
Yes, basically the same process from wartime production, although we'll be using modern glues to comply with 21st Century UK CAA regulations. Progress is of course subject to funding, but, subject to funding, we're looking at a five year restoration.
5:10 Ta-Da! Maybe the camera angle, that looks not quite straight to me....and that's not a countersink drill bit, it's either just a countersink or a rose countersink...
i have heard that there are alot of metal "fittings" for the mossie.... do you have any info or video on the resoration of those items please btw i will renew my annual PM sub soon.
Hi Fraser, apologies for the late reply. More updates coming including some work you might be interested in. Naturally, the majority of our work is focused on the moulds at the moment. Airframe first, but we’re working in other aspects of the restoration in the background.
When bonding the fuselage, the mould is placed under considerable pressure and with limited tolerance foam would be too prone to compression. Hard wood has all the engineering properties we need and allows the team to adjust profile to within 10,000ths of an inch.
Sadly, the remnants of Paul Allen's project would not be airworthy, so of no use to our project. The wooden airframe needs to be new to comply with UK CAA requirements.
NO WAY are they building this fuselage like the original Mosquito fuselage. The original was planked with thin plywood strips glued to the framework and held with secured metal straps till the glue dried. The method they are using here will make the plane too heavy if they intend to fly.
My late father in law would have enjoyed this v much. He was on the original and v small design team working with Geoffrey de Havilland on the Mosquito. He used to cycle everyday from Hatfield to Salisbury Hall. His first job was designing the crew entry door.
Thanks for sharing that family memory David. Did he ever talk his time at Salisbury Hall at all - we're interested in hearing more.
@@PeoplesMosquito he talked at length about it and I was v interested. I applied to the RAF for pilot training but was turned down, eyesight. I eventually got a PPL and IMC. My wife’s family, father, uncle and brother were career RAF officers. I live 15 miles from Hastings and until I saw your video on TH-cam this morning didn’t know of your existence.
It’s like a huge AirFix model kit lol. Keep up the good work! I cannot wait to see this beauty flying again.
Keep those video’s coming!
We’re trying! Progress is dictated by the availability of funds. Hopefully we’ll be able to share more updates soon.
I used Jelutong to carve a rocking horse. It is soft enough to work (and carve), has no annoying grain, yet is strong and really light!
Yes and it is also on the sustainable wood list too, Retrotec chose this wood for the exact properties you quote John :-)
Brilliant work on such an important part of our history. Well done! Can’t wait to see more. Thank you for sharing.
Only just found this channel, glad I have! One of my bestest fave planes of all time n the sound of those planes on wood :) TFS 'thanks for sharing, GB :)
THE CRAFTSMANSHIP IS OUTSTANDING AND AN INSPIRATION
Rarely seen skills in aviation these days - well done !
Boody marvelous...my father always spoke of the methods employed by the cabinet makers and carpenters :) Greetings from down under :)
I just read how a Mosquito was painstakingly rebuilt in New Zealand and featured in this month's (Dec. '21) Popular Mechanics. It was a fantastic article. What is takes to restore a wooden frame aircraft was impressive.
"After an exhaustive days planing"......... literally and figuratively
Great video!
Takes me back to my wooden boatbuilding days! Can just imagine making these moulds if I was around during WW2.
And once the mould profile was established, DH could then use concrete moulds for their other factories at home and in the dominions?
Superb guys! What a brilliant project! Good luck with it!
I was exhausted just watching! A great insight into the 'effort' required. Looking forward to the next video. My Mother was a Leading Aircraftwoman in the RAF in WW2 and could disassemble and rebuild a Merlin Engine and did work on Mosquitoes along with Spits, Hurricanes and Lancaster Bombers. I remember her saying she had reservations about the wooden construction at the time.
Brilliant got any pics to share of your Mum?
Thanks guys! Grand work, my (deceased) brother would be proud of all your work, he used to 'brag' about when his planes or chisels were sharp he would gently shave the top layer of his skin on his finger!! Anyway, fantastic work and wishing you well and stay safe there too!!
Very similar skills used by boatbuilders at the Lighthouse craftsmen in St. Augustine Florida. Always a pleasure to watch.
Very similar. One of our wood workers helps build beautiful handcrafted coachwork for Bentley.
Yes a neighbour was a Navigator in one of these Master Pieces ... and was priviledged to be able to take Photos of its first public display flights with my Hasselblad and 500mm lens on a Monopod .
Absolutely amazing if not Menising view of the Siloette as it first came into view attacking Aerodrome at High speed especially with the howl of the merlins at max normal power setting ... Amazing good luck with your Build ...
As a lifetime member I am so glad I seem to have invested my money in the right project
Thanks for the incredible support Charles. It's thanks to our members and public support that these moulds are now taking shape beautifully.
I so wish I had given you the money I spent becoming a Silver shareholder in the ‘Canberra to the Sky’ project.
The irony is that they had proven themselves with ‘Vulcan to the Sky’ and had an airframe to start with, so you seemed the more risky. However you are getting on and doing things. They don’t seem to be.
@@charlesbarbour2331 We appreciate there are several projects out there all asking for support. Delighted to be showing you some solid progress - more to come!
People's Mosquito yes and if I come to have more money to donate it is coming to you.
Well done guy and his team for all there hard work i take my hat to you all
I've been waiting for an in-depth video like this... fantastic, really fantastic. Enjoyed it very much.
Keep 'em coming please!
Glad you enjoyed it James! Thanks for the support and input. As we've said, if there's anything you'd like to see in a future update, just ask!
It is a lot of work to build up the 'plug' by completly filling the space between stations/formers. I guess the force that will be applied on the plug to bond/form the wood skins would be too great to simply have use longerons instead ? . That being said nice work and looking forward to see the project progress !
These videos are great! My grandfather worked for Boeing in Vancouver, BC, Canada on the Mosquito tailplane assembly. It's interesting to see this being brought to life now.
I've got some old memos from his time there, if you're interested.
alexjh47 Hi Alex, thanks for the great feedback and for the context about your grandfather. We’d be most interested in seeing copies of those memos you mentioned! Feel free to drop the team a line via info@peoplesmosquito.org.uk - they might be of interest to our build partner, Retrotec!
Thanks Alex for what you sent over - very very interested
Fantastic progress guys. Love these kind of video's teaching us how it's done.
I'm curious to know just how fine the craftsmanship could have been in the midst of a war, when there was an urgency to producing aircraft. I suppose once the mold is made, there could be some kind of production line set up. Nice to see the work taking shape!
When the Canadians were building their moulds they used concrete, which was plastered with fabric reinforcement, makes moving it a bout a bit tricky.
Fascinating stuff thanks for uploading 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Remember, if anyone has any questions, or would like to see something specific, we'll try to accommodate in a future update.
nice job guys ! with you in spirit
Wonderful,just wonderful,thankyou so much for this video.
mike pocock Cheers Mike! All thanks to the guys at Retrotec 👏🏻 beautiful to see these moulds taking shape!
Jolly good looks great
This is very interesting to watch, but it does explain why it took so long to get the moulds made. The project needs to get a professional site carpenter to give tips on how to speed up the process e.g. have 2 cordless drills, one with the drill bit and the other with a countersunk bit, or a combined drill/countersink, also use screws in a strip, not individually inserted.
How long is it expected to take before a mosquito appears?
is this the same procedure as was done to build them during the war?
Yes, basically the same process from wartime production, although we'll be using modern glues to comply with 21st Century UK CAA regulations. Progress is of course subject to funding, but, subject to funding, we're looking at a five year restoration.
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5:10 Ta-Da! Maybe the camera angle, that looks not quite straight to me....and that's not a countersink drill bit, it's either just a countersink or a rose countersink...
i have heard that there are alot of metal "fittings" for the mossie....
do you have any info or video on the resoration of those items please
btw i will renew my annual PM sub soon.
Hi Fraser, apologies for the late reply. More updates coming including some work you might be interested in. Naturally, the majority of our work is focused on the moulds at the moment. Airframe first, but we’re working in other aspects of the restoration in the background.
why not use foam to fill the gaps? It's only a mold right?
When bonding the fuselage, the mould is placed under considerable pressure and with limited tolerance foam would be too prone to compression. Hard wood has all the engineering properties we need and allows the team to adjust profile to within 10,000ths of an inch.
You folk's should try and acquire paul allans project for 175000 US
Sadly, the remnants of Paul Allen's project would not be airworthy, so of no use to our project. The wooden airframe needs to be new to comply with UK CAA requirements.
@@PeoplesMosquito thats correct sadly.. but it would make a nice project as static
How are you getting on with the Hornet?
Hi Simon the Hornet is an altogether different challenge - we are focused on the Mosquito. There is a Kiwi project for the Hornet, sadly not us.
Thanks for the reply John.
But, this is another guess that this is just a mold to make a fiberglass mold and make the fuselage out of fiberglass.
NO WAY are they building this fuselage like the original Mosquito fuselage. The original was planked with thin plywood strips glued to the framework and held with secured metal straps till the glue dried. The method they are using here will make the plane too heavy if they intend to fly.