@@amandahugankiss4110 im in the chicken part of the debate, and yet im describing a comparison on how it'll be a similar problem to the chicken-and-egg problem
Something horrendous to do with ai happened to me and my friends recently. A friend of ours died suddenly and it was really difficult for us, we went online to see if an obituary had been published and there were tons that had all been written by AI that were nothing to do with our friend but had his name and picture on them. It was genuinely disgusting
@@cessposter Bots. I understand literally nothing about programming but seems fairly easy to automate. Get all online official listings for death, have a template website page, and also have access to easily found online photos of the person, wich is usually found at government officially and publicly released obituaries (you could also use photos of them by buying stolen data from any company owned by meta) and then have an automatic program running prompts on chatgpt with the name and publicly available informations of the person. Then you just need to make a pipeline 1: bot gets information and photos, sends photo to template and infos to chatgpt bot 2: chatgpt bot prompts the generic "write an obituary for this person (the information sent by the first program) and then another program hets the prompt result and sends to template and when this happens the page is automatically posted. It probably happens multiple times a second and has possibly already been made a github page for a free to use code with that exact order, so a bunch of websites are doing that. Reason why: other than being easy, these people have 0 morals and really want a quick buck, and generative AI just so happens to be the next big thing in techbro space, the people who say they will never be replaced by their creation while being desperate for pennies from clicks by people mourning a loved one's passing.
I was working at a music conference earlier this year, and people were pointing out how "AI" has been used in the music industry for years but they just didn't call it "AI". Ultimately the best thing that came out of it was an artist used an AI software to try to smooth over the vocal track of his uncle (who had died a few years ago) so that he could fit it into his own music.
AI generated media is so unbelievably inferior in quality to actual human creative force, what's really depressing is the fact that there's a certain,large, audience whose standards and expectations for entertainment are so low that AI content seems perfectly acceptable to them.
That was a sad realisation I had recently too, the reason so many artists are going to be put out of a job isn't because the people in charge think that the AI will do better, just that it'll do good enough and nobody will really notice or care
Heres an example of where AI content is acceptable for me. I run a TTRPG. All the maps and tokens have to be drawn or otherwise obtained. The budget is 0. AI is a godsend for my players not having basic shapes for their gameplay.
@@KudosREAL Dude you literally stated you used generative ai to touch up your videos. I'd so much rather see a shitty photoshop job for thumbnails than whatever you're 'creating'. It's that small bit-by-bit creeping into our daily lives that's going to have us lose any right to create anything on a large scale. You are a part of this problem.
FR. It's like saying a computer is AI powered. Like it """"Is"""" but it would sound very stupid because no it's just maths, just like "AI" in klaus and spiderverse is space recognition (in case of spiderverse one of the AI things is just a fucking hand made filter lol)
Fun Fact: DeviantArt gave a person who generated an art piece for a contest money because they won said contest. Not the actually hand made art peices the AI Generated image. Not to mention they steal peoples art to let people generate it in there AI image generation thing.
Nice, another channel to watch when i cant sleep and yt-binge. Many kudos to you and take it slow if you feel, you need a break. Doing only what you enjoy is a wise step forward. Your addendum on the "worst steam games" vid hit quite close to me (i've been in and out of clinics due to servere depression, putting me on sickleave for over two years... fortunately, over here in germany that doesn't additionally put you in a financial crisis because yeah... Healthcare and such...)... I've been working in IT before and after those two years decided to make something completely different. So now i'm a postman 4 days a week (which is awesome) and work every sunday in a wonderfull bar right at the beach of the beautiful baltic sea while living on an island myself.... So yeah, i will never drive a Porsche but I'm happy with what i am doing and i'm happy that you decided to do the same! Thanks for all your work, it's much appreciated (i suppose those of us who do usually don't use the comment section... this might even be my first comment since creating this account around 2012) So yeah, just wanted to say thanks and you are not alone ;) All the best to you, @Kudos! (i'm no native so please forgive any mistakes i've made)
I have someone in a friend’s discord server who unironically uses an AI generated profile picture and credits the AI that made it. Only on the internet man.
I came here after watching your AI video with Internet Historian that just dropped. When you mentioned you've been outspoken about AI art in the past, I wanted to check it out. As an artist myself I'd just like to thank you for standing with us. It genuinely means the world to see non-artists rallying around this fight, it's very easy to feel like we're completely alone here. It gets very draining with a lot of pro-ai bros actively celebrating when news of layoffs drops or doing some crazy mental gymnastics to try and portray us as some kind of priviledged class when most artists I know are barely scraping by or working multiple jobs. It's like the centuries of the 'starving artist' stereotype has just been wiped from their collective consciousness. This genuinely meant a lot, so thank you.
This for sure isn't the point but muskrat isn't the richest man that's ever lived, that's mansa musa from the 14th century. Man crashed entire economies when he rolled intontown
hm, no, he didn't, and his' assets weren't worth much comparatively to what they can buy. This narrative was needed during the political agenda and need for a "black wealthy man in history" type thing. Do research into it.
Even if OpenAI takes measures so people can know what has been generated using their services, that doesn't stop any other company from doing their own generative AI software without any similar measures. To prevent that there should be national or international laws and policies that force these companies to put measures in place (maybe it already exists, idk). But it will ultimately not work because these laws could maybe be applied to let's say the US and the EU, but other countries like China for example wouldn't need to apply these. The misuse of generative AIs is inevitable, we can only hope to limit the effects of these misuses by informing people and limiting the ways someone could effectively misuse them.
I've been getting recommended videos lately that are AI generated and it makes me very angry. I do not want to listen to a computer talk I want to listen to real people but apparently TH-cams algorithm can't understand that.
As I keep saying, AI will always have less "skill" than someone doing it manually, but many jobs don't need skill. It also saves a ton on time and monotony which for many jobs is pretty big.
In fairness it's just the latest addition of the questions round automisation that have been around since the dawn of the industrial age and as ever the question is if it's used for private profit or the public good?
I hate that something defaming to a politician or celebrity needs to happen before laws and action take place instead of putting safe guards beforehand to prevent things like misinformation, copyright, and stealing, which I would think is common sense. However, if this is true, AI as a problem didn’t even occur to Joe Biden before watching the newest Mission Impossible movie
You mean, unless they say for example "this is a Picasso", or if they make promotion in their names, or if they fake the artist's signature or identity in some way to make profits. Right?
kinda funny like after i saw kwebbelkops video on twitter of hes bot was playing minecraft while just saying random shit i gotten ALOT more videos from really small channels, channels with 1k or less subs with only 100 views on each videos
So usually Im not much of a commenter, but I wanted to give you some extra kudo's where its due (pun intended) Love watching your videos, as someone who is just starting to learn how to edit I admire how you make it look so effortless. Only now that Im learning it myself do I see how much work is put into making videos like yours. I wonder how many jokes you think of in the script vs how many you create in post production? Anyways, take as much time as you need to recover before you compeletely burn out, me and lots of others will be watching your new stuff whenever it comes out! Cheers
I'm more impressed that whatever AI is behind TH-cam's profanity filter is able to detect your pronunciation of the word _"negativity"_ as something other than a... racial slur of some kind 🙄
See with the gaming example, this is why I exclusively use the game's wiki, be it official or fanmade....that or I just straight up ask other players lmao
The biggest issue with cracking down on ways to identify AI generated videos is that it will directly improve the quality of AI generated videos in order to to make them appear more real. By focusing on what is missing/extra/borked you will make the tool better at fixing them.
Was a bit apprehensive about another commentary focused side channel but your use of editing to keep the pace puts it above basically any equivalent Outside the topic of the video: You’re lookin really good!
dude awesom video spun to my head!!! yeah thats what chat gpt game me for excited comment. Well, im waiting for AI that wipes my ass so until we have that I'll just explain it to chat gpt so if it ever gets arms im stoked. Also, love these videos love the content
10:45 There are already channels completely automated. Kyle Hill made a video about it nearly a year ago "TH-cam’s Science Scam Crisis" th-cam.com/video/McM3CfDjGs0/w-d-xo.html
Oh fk I used to watch jordi until he went off the deep end, I had no idea how much he fell off. I feel like people can definitely see heavily phoned in bullshit and move on, so maybe that’s what happened.
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this guy looks like manny kudos
Holy shit, ManyKudos! whats a big channel like you doing here? 😏
wow I like that manfred kudos guy
He looks more like Josh Strife Hayes to me
Not really
This guy fucking wishes he was manykudos
My first AI plays a game, so my second AI can react to it, while I react to my fourth AI eating a mukbang... I am the third AI.
So this creates a chicken-and-egg problem, is the third AI the first one because it created the first or is the third AI the third?
@@lucss21a chickens hatch from eggs. chicken comes first. is a stupid debate.
@@amandahugankiss4110 im in the chicken part of the debate, and yet im describing a comparison on how it'll be a similar problem to the chicken-and-egg problem
"That's broke boy mindset" is something I would believe Elon would say
Something horrendous to do with ai happened to me and my friends recently. A friend of ours died suddenly and it was really difficult for us, we went online to see if an obituary had been published and there were tons that had all been written by AI that were nothing to do with our friend but had his name and picture on them. It was genuinely disgusting
jfc man hope you can find the emotional energy to write an obituary for your friend that does him justice because that''s just so wrong
I don't think I understand - why/how would an AI write an obituary for your friend? (Genuine question)
@@DodgyDaveGTXanything for the clicks. It's really unfortunate that content mills are willing to stoop that low.
@@ShermTank7272 but why and who prompted this
@@cessposter Bots. I understand literally nothing about programming but seems fairly easy to automate. Get all online official listings for death, have a template website page, and also have access to easily found online photos of the person, wich is usually found at government officially and publicly released obituaries (you could also use photos of them by buying stolen data from any company owned by meta) and then have an automatic program running prompts on chatgpt with the name and publicly available informations of the person. Then you just need to make a pipeline
1: bot gets information and photos, sends photo to template and infos to chatgpt bot
2: chatgpt bot prompts the generic "write an obituary for this person (the information sent by the first program) and then another program hets the prompt result and sends to template and when this happens the page is automatically posted.
It probably happens multiple times a second and has possibly already been made a github page for a free to use code with that exact order, so a bunch of websites are doing that.
Reason why: other than being easy, these people have 0 morals and really want a quick buck, and generative AI just so happens to be the next big thing in techbro space, the people who say they will never be replaced by their creation while being desperate for pennies from clicks by people mourning a loved one's passing.
I was working at a music conference earlier this year, and people were pointing out how "AI" has been used in the music industry for years but they just didn't call it "AI".
Ultimately the best thing that came out of it was an artist used an AI software to try to smooth over the vocal track of his uncle (who had died a few years ago) so that he could fit it into his own music.
Saying you definitely aren’t an ai is exactly what an ai would say
AI generated media is so unbelievably inferior in quality to actual human creative force, what's really depressing is the fact that there's a certain,large, audience whose standards and expectations for entertainment are so low that AI content seems perfectly acceptable to them.
That was a sad realisation I had recently too, the reason so many artists are going to be put out of a job isn't because the people in charge think that the AI will do better, just that it'll do good enough and nobody will really notice or care
It largely appeals to companies that want to cut costs and the most uncreative people imaginable.
Heres an example of where AI content is acceptable for me. I run a TTRPG. All the maps and tokens have to be drawn or otherwise obtained. The budget is 0. AI is a godsend for my players not having basic shapes for their gameplay.
THIS!!! *****
@@KudosREAL Dude you literally stated you used generative ai to touch up your videos. I'd so much rather see a shitty photoshop job for thumbnails than whatever you're 'creating'. It's that small bit-by-bit creeping into our daily lives that's going to have us lose any right to create anything on a large scale.
You are a part of this problem.
Kinda weird how 'Pics or it didn't happen' has morphed into 'Pics, so it didn't happen'.
AI in Klaus and Spider-Verse have nothing to do with Nova, OpenAI or any other company like those. AI it's just a catch all term to sell whatever.
FR. It's like saying a computer is AI powered. Like it """"Is"""" but it would sound very stupid because no it's just maths, just like "AI" in klaus and spiderverse is space recognition (in case of spiderverse one of the AI things is just a fucking hand made filter lol)
The bigger question, what would a Minion taste like?
Bananas, I imagine. But the even bigger question, do they taste like bananas, or like banana flavor?
Popcorn-flavored jellybeans, but even shittier.
Chicken
Sherbet Lemons.
@@nixel1324 Neither - It's distinctly banana, but a species that went extinct before the banana flavor species did.
I hate how many people are starting to blindly accept AI
It feels like the world is changing too fast and we were only invited to witness in silence.
Fun Fact: DeviantArt gave a person who generated an art piece for a contest money because they won said contest. Not the actually hand made art peices the AI Generated image. Not to mention they steal peoples art to let people generate it in there AI image generation thing.
I just realised the backdrop is not real. Good work on that stuff, quite realistic!
1:43 they are actually implied to be genetically engineered from corn in the first movie haha.
Love this second channel man. Great shit. Feels like I'm hanging out with my old sweaty kiwi college roommate again.
Nice, another channel to watch when i cant sleep and yt-binge. Many kudos to you and take it slow if you feel, you need a break. Doing only what you enjoy is a wise step forward. Your addendum on the "worst steam games" vid hit quite close to me (i've been in and out of clinics due to servere depression, putting me on sickleave for over two years... fortunately, over here in germany that doesn't additionally put you in a financial crisis because yeah... Healthcare and such...)... I've been working in IT before and after those two years decided to make something completely different. So now i'm a postman 4 days a week (which is awesome) and work every sunday in a wonderfull bar right at the beach of the beautiful baltic sea while living on an island myself.... So yeah, i will never drive a Porsche but I'm happy with what i am doing and i'm happy that you decided to do the same!
Thanks for all your work, it's much appreciated (i suppose those of us who do usually don't use the comment section... this might even be my first comment since creating this account around 2012)
So yeah, just wanted to say thanks and you are not alone ;)
All the best to you, @Kudos!
(i'm no native so please forgive any mistakes i've made)
I have someone in a friend’s discord server who unironically uses an AI generated profile picture and credits the AI that made it.
Only on the internet man.
Dont call it Insane, dont call it crazy, dont call it wild
Call it what it is, SAD and STUPID, quite being polite and have the gonads to call it out
Thank you for blessing us with this human-produced content daddy kudos.
Anything for you burger king
The minion behind the ChatGPT getting the Greg prompt: *cracks fingers* 👹👺
Kwebblekop is definitely just producing a library of reactions to train his next AI lol
I love the chill vibes of this channel it's like a calm conversation/discussion really nice can't wait to see more and hope your feeling well :)
I came here after watching your AI video with Internet Historian that just dropped. When you mentioned you've been outspoken about AI art in the past, I wanted to check it out.
As an artist myself I'd just like to thank you for standing with us. It genuinely means the world to see non-artists rallying around this fight, it's very easy to feel like we're completely alone here. It gets very draining with a lot of pro-ai bros actively celebrating when news of layoffs drops or doing some crazy mental gymnastics to try and portray us as some kind of priviledged class when most artists I know are barely scraping by or working multiple jobs. It's like the centuries of the 'starving artist' stereotype has just been wiped from their collective consciousness.
This genuinely meant a lot, so thank you.
I work in a casino, I can't imagine how annoyed a patron would be if I used the broke boy line lol
My hair never looks that good when I wear headphones
awesome video manny kubos, sums up a lot of my feelings way more kiwishly (and earnestly) than i ever could
Black tank top and gold chain. Is Kudos an Italian from New Jersey?
I wish man, if there was a good deli near me that I could get a fresh Italian sub at I'd be there every day
@@KudosREAL Di Chiera Brothers in North Perth was legit stuff. I'm sure there are some still around
I laughed out loud so hard a couple times during this that i had coughing fits. Do more of this!
Alright boys, time to see what our dad has to say about ai
I'd say little bro for me because I'm way too old
This for sure isn't the point but muskrat isn't the richest man that's ever lived, that's mansa musa from the 14th century. Man crashed entire economies when he rolled intontown
Either him or Crassus would be my wager.
hm, no, he didn't, and his' assets weren't worth much comparatively to what they can buy. This narrative was needed during the political agenda and need for a "black wealthy man in history" type thing. Do research into it.
Even if OpenAI takes measures so people can know what has been generated using their services, that doesn't stop any other company from doing their own generative AI software without any similar measures.
To prevent that there should be national or international laws and policies that force these companies to put measures in place (maybe it already exists, idk).
But it will ultimately not work because these laws could maybe be applied to let's say the US and the EU, but other countries like China for example wouldn't need to apply these.
The misuse of generative AIs is inevitable, we can only hope to limit the effects of these misuses by informing people and limiting the ways someone could effectively misuse them.
Subbed! I expect more great work from you, mister!
Some of us are still at the bar to this day, waiting...
Only just noticed how mad the posters are
'I've always wanted to eat one' had me rolling. That's it, no context.
Enjoying this new channel x
Welcome to FewerKudos.
While this is all kinds of messed up, super happy to have more Kudos to watch! Please keep it up!
Love the video man👍🏼
All the best with the new channel ❤️
Thanks Jay! Wait, is that the 5th edition guild artisan artwork in your pfp?
@@KudosREAL you know it 😎 always had a soft spot for the halfling boys😂
I've been getting recommended videos lately that are AI generated and it makes me very angry. I do not want to listen to a computer talk I want to listen to real people but apparently TH-cams algorithm can't understand that.
So im guessing this is just the second of his many kudos? Looking forward to seeing all the rest of them!
This dude is channeling DarkViperAU style today
I really liked him for a while but like a year ago he seemed like a bit of an asshole so hadn’t thought about him for a while! you’re right though lol
Many kudos? Nah, single kudo.
I'm glad youre making these videos too.
As I keep saying, AI will always have less "skill" than someone doing it manually, but many jobs don't need skill. It also saves a ton on time and monotony which for many jobs is pretty big.
3d gooning is my favorite content creator
Ai gooning when
I like the new channel dude
I miss early 2000s internet when it was fairly new
I wouldn't call the tool used to make Klaus AI, its just a computer algorithm. We've been making and using them for a long time now
Is the lighting thing AI? Isn't that just how every video game mimics light sources?
In fairness it's just the latest addition of the questions round automisation that have been around since the dawn of the industrial age and as ever the question is if it's used for private profit or the public good?
love how people were fine with artists jobs getting steamrolled but now that youtubers money is at risk it isnt okay anymore lmao, such a shit world
Good to see AI playing videogames, might finally get through my backlog if I can outsource it to a bot.
Manny Kudos watches CT and TAFS confirmed
I hate that something defaming to a politician or celebrity needs to happen before laws and action take place instead of putting safe guards beforehand to prevent things like misinformation, copyright, and stealing, which I would think is common sense. However, if this is true, AI as a problem didn’t even occur to Joe Biden before watching the newest Mission Impossible movie
7:45 because it's not possible to copyright an art style in the US, only individual pieces of art. So legally they have nothing to worry about.
Issue is the AI learns the style by copying the art illegally. The only reason why it hasn't been stopped yet is congress is fucking slow.
You mean, unless they say for example "this is a Picasso", or if they make promotion in their names, or if they fake the artist's signature or identity in some way to make profits. Right?
@@Par-Crom obviously, impersonating someone else, pretending art they did not create was created by a famous artist, etc. is just simple fraud
It was so cool having a drink at the bar with Many Kudos after this vid, what a down to earth guy and definitely not AI generated.
kinda funny like after i saw kwebbelkops video on twitter of hes bot was playing minecraft while just saying random shit i gotten ALOT more videos from really small channels, channels with 1k or less subs with only 100 views on each videos
You had me at you don't have to suffer 🤙🏼
Omg can't believe that ghost gum finally revealed his face!1!!
So usually Im not much of a commenter, but I wanted to give you some extra kudo's where its due (pun intended) Love watching your videos, as someone who is just starting to learn how to edit I admire how you make it look so effortless. Only now that Im learning it myself do I see how much work is put into making videos like yours. I wonder how many jokes you think of in the script vs how many you create in post production? Anyways, take as much time as you need to recover before you compeletely burn out, me and lots of others will be watching your new stuff whenever it comes out! Cheers
I'm more impressed that whatever AI is behind TH-cam's profanity filter is able to detect your pronunciation of the word _"negativity"_ as something other than a... racial slur of some kind 🙄
Kudos I went to the bar and you weren't there and I cried inconsolably in front of everyone 😢
"adam friedland"? i see youre one of us
meat space will always be more interesting that microchip space
See with the gaming example, this is why I exclusively use the game's wiki, be it official or fanmade....that or I just straight up ask other players lmao
Minions are mutated corn. Hope this helps.
Is that part of the minions lore
Can we get a gooncave tour king?
That's a spooky hamburger.
You should really push this channel more on your other channel cause I completely missed that this channel even existed
The biggest issue with cracking down on ways to identify AI generated videos is that it will directly improve the quality of AI generated videos in order to to make them appear more real.
By focusing on what is missing/extra/borked you will make the tool better at fixing them.
Was a bit apprehensive about another commentary focused side channel but your use of editing to keep the pace puts it above basically any equivalent
Outside the topic of the video:
You’re lookin really good!
Creepy.
HAMBURGER!!??!?!??!?!?
Yes
I'm sick of that broke boy mindset, causing me to lose my house
HE BROUGHT IT UP! THE RECIPEE AND THE AUTHORS POINTLESS LIFE STORY! AS SOMEONE WHO ENJOYS COOKING I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE!
10:11
Dude, it's been five months. Are you coming to the bar or not?
I’ll take all the kudos I can get
I give this video a small handful of kudos, not quite many but more than a few.
If Mario, then only Bros! 🔥
that's broke boy mindset
People still rock tank tops? I love it.
Bad decade to be an artist.
AI is “machine learning” but “machine learning” isn’t AI
8:21 that's what an AI would say ngl
I’m at the bar where are you
I'm at the bar. Where r u
Typical Gregg & his slurs.
Wow! This bot sure is a funny fella!
08:19 That sounds like something a bot would say.
Ai is just so pathetic
Omg, I wasn't expecting a CumTown reference. I love you even more now (because I'm gay).
dude awesom video spun to my head!!! yeah thats what chat gpt game me for excited comment. Well, im waiting for AI that wipes my ass so until we have that I'll just explain it to chat gpt so if it ever gets arms im stoked. Also, love these videos love the content
10:45 There are already channels completely automated. Kyle Hill made a video about it nearly a year ago "TH-cam’s Science Scam Crisis" th-cam.com/video/McM3CfDjGs0/w-d-xo.html
Who is this guy in the tank top and chain?????? Emily is a lucky lady
Yo! New vid!
Oh fk I used to watch jordi until he went off the deep end, I had no idea how much he fell off. I feel like people can definitely see heavily phoned in bullshit and move on, so maybe that’s what happened.
I'm edging
"It saves me as an artist time" If you can't remove stuff from a pic yourself, you're not an artist.
Imagine being this brain dead
I TO WANT BELEVE