I absolutely love how well you did this. Gave me full confidence to do it to the one I just got. Very detailed. This is the type of stuff I need as I’m trying to learn more.
I have a 2002 Civic that was very noisy so I watched your video I must say it is one of the best most informative Do It Yourself video I've ever watched I tackle that job with complete confidence after watching your video and celebrated success thank you very much for such a thorough video much appreciated car runs great again nice and quiet
@@hondaresource hey bud I'm stuck. Lol 2005 civic lx coupe 1.7 . What is the filler gage like .010 or ect thanks bud please respond can't find this anywhere
Clear, step-by-step instructions. I've been watching several vids to prep myself for starting this on my 02 Civic EX, 155k, and your vid is by far the clearest explanation. Thank you. Two questions: with the high mileage, It's probably a good idea to just do the valve cover gasket as a matter of course, would you agree? 2. You're not using a torque wrech when putting the valve cover back on, any tips on feel for how tight to go? Thanks again.
They are very easy to strip, use a torque wrench if at all possible. If they do strip you have to drill out and helicoil it: be super careful of letting any shaving fall down into the engine.
@@8.6GivenAdqVacSysm hey Jon g, thanks for the reply. Funny enough, when I did change the head gasket out 2 years back, the first thing I did was strip one of those valve cover bolts ! Added about 4 hours to the job taking the head to a shop having the bolt machined out etc... Won't make that mistake again. Cheers
My mom’s 04 Civic could definitely use an adjustment. Question, what eventually happens when you need an adjustment but you don’t do it? I know the car burns oil but I’m not sure if this has anything to do with it.
I like the video a lot thank you but I was wondering how do you know you need it other than mileage wise because I'm experiencing a certain noise and I think that may be it but I'm not sure so I was wishing you would have showed a before and after noise
I happen to come across this video and was wondering if without this adjustment being done, will the car have any type of misfire? I ask because I'm dealing with a problem on a 2005 honda civic ex where theres a misfire on the number 4 cylinder. I've changed the spark plugs. Ive changed the coils as well, the car runs fine but still throws out the p0304 code after driving it for a few. The car has has a new fuel filter, new gas cap, etc. The injectors show no signs of being clogged either. Not sure what else i can do for the check engine light to go away
Wonder how tricky it is to do with the timing cover on...the bolt by the cam sensor is rounded right off and theres barely enough room to get a hand in there nevermind an extractor
Love the detail of the video but man let me tell you how much a pain that cam position sensor is to remove if you have ABS. The entire assembly is right in front or it 😂
Once in TDC cylinder-1 position, can you adjust valves for cylinder-4 or must you adjust in 1-3-4-2 order? Isn’t there a way to set to TDC cylinder-3 by using the marks on the pulley? It seems like a pain to be turning the crank from below and watching the screwdriver height in the cylinder when you don’t have another person to guide you. Another tech said to rotate the pulley until the arrow is level with the top of the forward-edge of the head. Removing the plugs to make it easier to turn the crank is a good idea. Anyone doing this job should consider replacing their TDC sensor if they’re having a slightly rough idle when warm at a stop. Clean the EGR, replace EGR gasket, replace the valve cover plug that tends to leak on D17s. Consider replacing spark plug tube seals. Basically, replace/clean as much as you can while the valve cover is off. The parts are relatively inexpensive.
Another great video man! Can the valve lash be adjusted with the head OFF the vehicle? My timing belt broke this past Sunday and for various reasons I ended up getting a rebuilt head which will come assembled but with the valves loose, hence the reason for my question. Last question, that's a bit off topic any preference on aftermarket head gaskets? Love your channel, you've saved my bacon so many times now I've lost count. These 7th gen engines are gonna be the death of me. IN other news... I had no idea they made a tool for doing the adjustments before this evening. I worked out how to do the adjustments AND get the nuts torqued to spec (insert eyeroll) without changing the setting with a set of flare nut crows foot wrenches from my local harbor freight store and my inch pound torque wrench. Oh well... I won't complain about getting a new toy. LOL
Late to the party, you can but you gotta be careful that you arent adjusting a valve thats part way open. IMO its easier with the head off because you dont have to dick around finding TDC, but you do gotta be aware of potential complications.
I have failed at this 4 times already. I was adjusting to .008 for intake and .010 for exhaust. Keep hearing a ticking when I turn it on. The drag on the feeler gauge is what I don't know how to determine. Should it barely grab it or should it be difficult to get the feeler gauge through?
@@hondaresource I test to make sure the next size up not fit but it has not worked for me. 5th times the charm hopefully. Would a bent valve cause this ticking as well?
I was able to get rid of the ticking sound but now the vehicle feels like it lost power. Can' take off as quickly as I used to (manual transmission). Did I make them too tight?
@@purodesmadre713 I drive a manual as well. Hmm... my car hasn't had the same pick up either. I do hear a ticking sound, so hopefully it's just a valve adjustment. A mechanic told me to just add 10w-30 Penz oil & Lucas. I do have some oil burning, but oil is so cheap I can just top off. Would you say most engine noise/ticking from our D17 engine's come from just valve being out of time? Thanks bro.
@@dbzownz12345 The error I was making was using a screwdriver in the cylinder to determine top dead center. I switched back to using the timing marks and I was able to fix the ticking issue. Intake was adjusted to .008 and Exhaust to .010. So yes, the ticking went away once I realized my mistake, the engine was timed correctly, the issue was me not using the timing marks to determine top dead center for each cylinder. Hope that helps.
Hello, I am desperately looking for the right valve lash values for my Civic over here in Europe. It's an EP1 which was built in the UK. It has a D14Z6 engine. Are the values all the same for the D-engines? The engine in your video looks very similar to mine. I would appreciate it if you could help me out. :-)
You probably have found those long time ago but if anyone is still looking: I've got D14Z6 and according to manual it's 0,18-0,22mm intake, 0,23-0,27 exhaust. I have to finally adjust those looking at timing marks but man, that ABS module is really making it hard to reach and unplug a sensor and belt cover off.
@@RoboMikro Thank you! I did the adjustment a year ago and it was actually pretty straightforward. I didn't completely remove the timing belt cover, only enough to see the TDP mark. I adjusted the valves and checked the clearances a couple of times in between. When I was finished, I checked all of the valves yet again, put everything back on and the engine ran perfectly. It still does and the loudness of the ticking sounds have neither decreased nor increased. It's relatively quiet and sounds similar to hydraulic valve lifter engines. However, the whole process took me about four hours, so put on some good music and prepare for muscle soreness the day after. ;-)
@@hondaresource The mechanic shop changed my valve cover gasket when I received the car back the engine have a ticking noise. He told me the valves needs adjustment shouldn’t he had adjusted it when I changed the valve cover gasket?
@@devon582 it's not standard to adjust valves when replacing the gasket. I would say it's standard to replace the gasket when adjusting the valves though 🤟
@@hondaresource What noise determines a "valvetrain noise" If possible can you direct me with a video providing this noise. I'm not 100% sure my noise is from the valves needing adjustment, or a clogged fuel injector. I know a borescope would help, but I just want to go based off noise to start, thanks!
Can you make a video or do you have a video for replacing CV axels on a 2004 Civic LX? You are very through and I think I’d like to see your process in doing it. Also do you have a timing belt/water pump video? Thanks! Great videos too!
@@hondaresource Thanks man! What’s a good starter set of pneumatic tools would be? I can’t afford the battery ones now and I’m just trying to keep my Honda alive. Thanks again!
Yes it won't work with automatic, but I think you got the point I made. Try it out next time, it is much less pain to put engine in possition you need.
You’re the 3rd-4th person that was missing a 3rd bolt on the upper timing belt cover. Haven’t checked mine yet. Seems like shops aren’t putting them back after a timing belt service.
Most reasonable and very clear instructions I have seen of 5+ videos covering the same topic.
Thank you
I absolutely love how well you did this. Gave me full confidence to do it to the one I just got. Very detailed. This is the type of stuff I need as I’m trying to learn more.
Thank you
I have a 2002 Civic that was very noisy so I watched your video I must say it is one of the best most informative Do It Yourself video I've ever watched I tackle that job with complete confidence after watching your video and celebrated success thank you very much for such a thorough video much appreciated car runs great again nice and quiet
Thank you! I'm glad you were able to get it fixed up!
@@hondaresource hey bud I'm stuck. Lol 2005 civic lx coupe 1.7 . What is the filler gage like .010 or ect thanks bud please respond can't find this anywhere
Very well illustrated proces. Truly appreciate your video
Thank you
Bro Thanks for the video it took me 2 hours but now there are no noises in the engine thanks again.
Awesome!
Awesome video thank you for all the info,I was worried that I was going to mess up the job but you gave me great confidence!
ty for this! doing this tonight & with the timing belt, idler & water pump r&r
Great video you saved me some money, I will be doing mine tomorrow. Thanks alot
I'm not doing this till later because of not having the tools but I get what your saying .Thank you for your help !
You sir have earned yourself a new subscriber I’m referring everyone to your channel 👍🏾🔥
Thank you man
yep, heck of a lot easier adjusting the valves on an old VW bug. Nice instructions.
Best video on this subject on youtube
thank you for the kind words!
Clear and to the point, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, impressive video!! I love how I'm not doing any of this...but pretending I can do this....
😂😂😂 hey at least you know what it takes
Thank you so much for sharing, greetings from Mexico.
Thank you too!
Holy shit thank you, you are an incredible instructor
glad to help!
Clear, step-by-step instructions. I've been watching several vids to prep myself for starting this on my 02 Civic EX, 155k, and your vid is by far the clearest explanation. Thank you. Two questions: with the high mileage, It's probably a good idea to just do the valve cover gasket as a matter of course, would you agree? 2. You're not using a torque wrech when putting the valve cover back on, any tips on feel for how tight to go? Thanks again.
Thanks. It definitely wouldn't hurt to replace the gasket. The valve cover bolts torque to 8.7 ft/lb. I usually just snug them
@@hondaresource Thanks again, Honda Resource.
They are very easy to strip, use a torque wrench if at all possible. If they do strip you have to drill out and helicoil it: be super careful of letting any shaving fall down into the engine.
@@8.6GivenAdqVacSysm hey Jon g, thanks for the reply. Funny enough, when I did change the head gasket out 2 years back, the first thing I did was strip one of those valve cover bolts ! Added about 4 hours to the job taking the head to a shop having the bolt machined out etc... Won't make that mistake again. Cheers
Just trolling here Mr. Babb lol. Reminds me of doing it on my d16y8 turbo. I miss it 😢
Thanks for the video, helped me out a lot. Anyone who did this, what positive changes did you experience? Did it magically regained any power?
My mom’s 04 Civic could definitely use an adjustment. Question, what eventually happens when you need an adjustment but you don’t do it? I know the car burns oil but I’m not sure if this has anything to do with it.
Good video, I would suggest you use the marks in the timing belt pulley when moving from one cylinder to the next vice the screwdriver method.
True. The screwdriver is a good visual tool for the video though
Can you explain the method using the timing belt pulley marks?
Awesome job!
Great video. Learned so much....should I take my 2001 to shop or do it myself...but don't have these tools.
buy the tools and do it!
2001 honda civic ex. What are the adjustment for intake and exhaust. Again great video...
Same as in this video. I dont remember off the top of my head, but they are in this video.
I like the video a lot thank you but I was wondering how do you know you need it other than mileage wise because I'm experiencing a certain noise and I think that may be it but I'm not sure so I was wishing you would have showed a before and after noise
Oftentimes it'll have a little bit of chatter in the top end.
Very helpful buddy 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😃
Thank you very much
Thanks man, that’s awesome! I have a 2004 Civic (not the VTEC) is it the same procedure?
Yes
Excellent video clear instructions (no rambling on)... Curious how you diagnosed the valve gap? Is it a noticeable noise?
Sometimes it's noticable. I'd recommend doing it everytime you replace the timing belt (100k miles)
great job man
I happen to come across this video and was wondering if without this adjustment being done, will the car have any type of misfire? I ask because I'm dealing with a problem on a 2005 honda civic ex where theres a misfire on the number 4 cylinder. I've changed the spark plugs. Ive changed the coils as well, the car runs fine but still throws out the p0304 code after driving it for a few. The car has has a new fuel filter, new gas cap, etc. The injectors show no signs of being clogged either. Not sure what else i can do for the check engine light to go away
It could. I would recommend it.
How much will you charge for valve adjustment same engine!
I wish everyone could get on the same page about what the valve clearance specs are.
I just went off what I found on d series. Org these don't have the specs on the under hood stickers like most.
when youre done ajusting them and ready to put it all back together do you have to bring it back to TDC?
No
Wonder how tricky it is to do with the timing cover on...the bolt by the cam sensor is rounded right off and theres barely enough room to get a hand in there nevermind an extractor
What can I do if I might have turned the cam clockwise to attempt to straighten out the timing? Do I have to redo the timing?
It's fine as long as it didn't jump teeth
At what mileage they recommend to do this adjustment?
I have an 04 but it’s 5 speed, and my brake actuator is right next to ps res, so this should be fun…valve specs should be the same tho right ?
Yessir.
HELP ME ALOT THX
Love the detail of the video but man let me tell you how much a pain that cam position sensor is to remove if you have ABS. The entire assembly is right in front or it 😂
Yep, less than ideal
Awesome video. thank you
Glad you liked it!
Thank You Very Much Sir!
I hope you find it helpful🤟
Thank you, much appreciated! Oh, and subbed with a 👍🙂
Awesome! I appreciate it
do you adjust these on a hot or cold engine?
Always cold
What happens if you rotate cam clockwise when doing firing order during adjustment ?. You still get the same firing order.
You run the risk of jumping timing if you turn it clockwise, but to answer your question, firing order would be backwards
The first air box you removed does not have to be removed in order to remove the valve cover.
I just find it easier than fighting for clearance.
One of my valves ( valve 3) have no compression, would this fit it?
Burnt valve or bent valve most likely
Thank you!
Welcome!
Once in TDC cylinder-1 position, can you adjust valves for cylinder-4 or must you adjust in 1-3-4-2 order? Isn’t there a way to set to TDC cylinder-3 by using the marks on the pulley? It seems like a pain to be turning the crank from below and watching the screwdriver height in the cylinder when you don’t have another person to guide you. Another tech said to rotate the pulley until the arrow is level with the top of the forward-edge of the head. Removing the plugs to make it easier to turn the crank is a good idea. Anyone doing this job should consider replacing their TDC sensor if they’re having a slightly rough idle when warm at a stop. Clean the EGR, replace EGR gasket, replace the valve cover plug that tends to leak on D17s. Consider replacing spark plug tube seals. Basically, replace/clean as much as you can while the valve cover is off. The parts are relatively inexpensive.
You have to adjust in order.
Two thumbs up
What did it sound like prior?
not really too bad. Just slight ticking when cold. Figured it wouldn't hurt to knock it out.
When you align cylinder 1 tdc ..... are the exhaust and intake valves both tdc ?
Thanks
They will both be closed, do it as shown in the video and you'll be golden👍
@@hondaresource thank you
Is there a reccomend time frame or milage you should do this at? I'm at 139xxx thanks!
I would probably go ahead and do it. Some motors are different than others. Generally if you hear a little ticking when you it cold starts, it's time.
Another great video man! Can the valve lash be adjusted with the head OFF the vehicle? My timing belt broke this past Sunday and for various reasons I ended up getting a rebuilt head which will come assembled but with the valves loose, hence the reason for my question. Last question, that's a bit off topic any preference on aftermarket head gaskets? Love your channel, you've saved my bacon so many times now I've lost count. These 7th gen engines are gonna be the death of me. IN other news... I had no idea they made a tool for doing the adjustments before this evening. I worked out how to do the adjustments AND get the nuts torqued to spec (insert eyeroll) without changing the setting with a set of flare nut crows foot wrenches from my local harbor freight store and my inch pound torque wrench. Oh well... I won't complain about getting a new toy. LOL
I don't think it can be properly spec'd off the car
@@hondaresource Ok, cool, thank you. I appreciate you getting back to me.
Late to the party, you can but you gotta be careful that you arent adjusting a valve thats part way open. IMO its easier with the head off because you dont have to dick around finding TDC, but you do gotta be aware of potential complications.
I have failed at this 4 times already. I was adjusting to .008 for intake and .010 for exhaust. Keep hearing a ticking when I turn it on. The drag on the feeler gauge is what I don't know how to determine. Should it barely grab it or should it be difficult to get the feeler gauge through?
You should be able to get it through but not get the next size up through
@@hondaresource I test to make sure the next size up not fit but it has not worked for me. 5th times the charm hopefully. Would a bent valve cause this ticking as well?
I was able to get rid of the ticking sound but now the vehicle feels like it lost power. Can' take off as quickly as I used to (manual transmission). Did I make them too tight?
@@purodesmadre713 I drive a manual as well. Hmm... my car hasn't had the same pick up either. I do hear a ticking sound, so hopefully it's just a valve adjustment. A mechanic told me to just add 10w-30 Penz oil & Lucas. I do have some oil burning, but oil is so cheap I can just top off. Would you say most engine noise/ticking from our D17 engine's come from just valve being out of time? Thanks bro.
@@dbzownz12345 The error I was making was using a screwdriver in the cylinder to determine top dead center. I switched back to using the timing marks and I was able to fix the ticking issue. Intake was adjusted to .008 and Exhaust to .010. So yes, the ticking went away once I realized my mistake, the engine was timed correctly, the issue was me not using the timing marks to determine top dead center for each cylinder. Hope that helps.
Do you have to buy a new valve cover gasket, after you adjust the valve cover gasket? ??? Anyone please answer!!
Really depends on the condition of your old gasket. I would suggest it if your gasket is older.
@@hondaresource thanks
Hello, I am desperately looking for the right valve lash values for my Civic over here in Europe. It's an EP1 which was built in the UK. It has a D14Z6 engine. Are the values all the same for the D-engines? The engine in your video looks very similar to mine. I would appreciate it if you could help me out. :-)
I would assume the same as any other d15/d16. We don't have the d14 here in the states
You probably have found those long time ago but if anyone is still looking: I've got D14Z6 and according to manual it's 0,18-0,22mm intake, 0,23-0,27 exhaust.
I have to finally adjust those looking at timing marks but man, that ABS module is really making it hard to reach and unplug a sensor and belt cover off.
@@RoboMikro Thank you! I did the adjustment a year ago and it was actually pretty straightforward. I didn't completely remove the timing belt cover, only enough to see the TDP mark. I adjusted the valves and checked the clearances a couple of times in between. When I was finished, I checked all of the valves yet again, put everything back on and the engine ran perfectly. It still does and the loudness of the ticking sounds have neither decreased nor increased. It's relatively quiet and sounds similar to hydraulic valve lifter engines. However, the whole process took me about four hours, so put on some good music and prepare for muscle soreness the day after. ;-)
Awesome
didn't know BJ Penn was into Hondas
the more you know🤔🤣
My engine sticker says no valve adjustment needed???
I usually only do them when I've removed the head or if I'm getting some valvetrain noise.
@@hondaresource The mechanic shop changed my valve cover gasket when I received the car back the engine have a ticking noise. He told me the valves needs adjustment shouldn’t he had adjusted it when I changed the valve cover gasket?
@@devon582 it's not standard to adjust valves when replacing the gasket. I would say it's standard to replace the gasket when adjusting the valves though 🤟
@@hondaresource What noise determines a "valvetrain noise" If possible can you direct me with a video providing this noise. I'm not 100% sure my noise is from the valves needing adjustment, or a clogged fuel injector. I know a borescope would help, but I just want to go based off noise to start, thanks!
Suppose to be counter clockwise
I meant clockwise sorry
Can you make a video or do you have a video for replacing CV axels on a 2004 Civic LX? You are very through and I think I’d like to see your process in doing it. Also do you have a timing belt/water pump video? Thanks! Great videos too!
I have a video for the timing belt and water pump, I can make one for the axle. I just got to get one up here.
@@hondaresource Thanks man! What’s a good starter set of pneumatic tools would be? I can’t afford the battery ones now and I’m just trying to keep my Honda alive. Thanks again!
@@mikestribling7574 you can get usable tools at harbor freight for good prices. They would hold up in a personal garage pretty well
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I just don't get why you turn crank when you can put in gear and spin the wheel. That is like 90% faster and easier
I'm not sure what motor you are working on, but that wont work on a Honda with both front wheels off the ground.
@@hondaresource that is the thing, you just pull up left wheel, works on all cars with fwd
I doubt it would work with an auto or a car with an open diff
Yes it won't work with automatic, but I think you got the point I made. Try it out next time, it is much less pain to put engine in possition you need.
Did it fix the Problem, sucky vid!
Can't finish the video...barking is to annoying...But a great vid other wise.
Sorry man. I didn't realize it would be picked up like that by the mic. Live and learn.
@@hondaresource you are great at making these vids. Keep it up! And get the dog a toy to keep it busy on productions days...hahah. Cheers!
You’re the 3rd-4th person that was missing a 3rd bolt on the upper timing belt cover. Haven’t checked mine yet. Seems like shops aren’t putting them back after a timing belt service.