Hell yeah man. I felt incredibly empowered during Helene and Milton with our Tesla’s and EVs even helped rescue folks while everyone else was out of gas. I will always choose a good EV for these instances. Home backup, reliable transport and plenty more lol.
He’s not. Just providing slightly different points of view that make the claims sound like lies. Charging infrastructure and available charging stations that actually work, and at a reasonable charge rate, aren’t at an acceptable level for most. And charging at home? Only if you own your house, don’t live in an apartment block and/or don’t have a large battery that won’t charge overnight.
He pointed the simple facts these EV’s have FAR more dilemma issues than Tesla FRAUD bias media purveys. Their countless issues still WORSEN daily. Self Ignite and re-ignite batteries. ETC, the list is Lengthy EV’s have. Worse resale BIGGEST loss in value then ALL items on American soil.
@@cristiovanniI guess you missed the news that Tesla has had the highest brand loyalty of any auto brand in the US for three years running. Highest by a wide margin.
Used EV are so cheap and in such great demand...that the US government will discount them with a rebate. It's a great deal considering they're mandating the demise of ICE vehicles.
it will happen - but the main point for me is the toxicity, speed and ferocity of EV fires. They can not be put out in about 30 minutes like a full on ICE fire. They need hundreds of gallons more water and re-ignite spontaneously as well. NONE of which ICE fires do.
@@suecharnock9369 ICE fires don't spontaneously reignite?! LoL I've never seen a vehicle fire that wasn't catastrophic, including my neighbors in their backyard. It's hard to be more catastrophic than completely catastrophic. It's like being more afraid of falling 100 stories instead of falling 20.
In Sarasota Florida after both hurricanes. The only people that didn't have range anxiety was EV drivers. There was no gas anywhere a week after the hurricane passed. No services dependent on gas worked either. Uber Eats, any delivery service all down. Only delivery services was Amazon in their electric Rivian Van. Gas was a complete failure when everyone need it at the same time.
@VortexVibe634 EV’S and ICE vehicle market has changed forever. EV prices will behave more like a consumer electronic than a typical vehicle of the past. More like computers, phone, etc. Because it is more of a computer than a ICE engine vehicle. The prices will continue to drop as the range and power rises. Once EV price and range are the same, ICE will die. RIP
@@OasisAmps yes and with manufacturers backing out of off the EV craze that would be in 300 years, btw Im considering getting an EV truck in the future cause for my line of works it makes a lot of sense, I need a truck but I typically drive about 30-40 miles per day
The issue is not the Getting damage and not Working, the issue is continue to Work as normal however burning the all house when you attempt to charge it 🤷 I m not sure how frequent it happens however it has been reported
@@niceboy60 it happens, but it happens more often with petrol cars. It is so much more common that it doesn’t get reported. Insurance claim statistics don’t lie.
@@jgreen9361 sadly it's irrelevant and not comparable because Combustion car fires can easily be put Down, the Prospect of fires which can't be stopped raises new Fear levels
@@niceboy60 Tell that to the 1600 vehicle owners who lost their cars in the 1100 degree inferno at the Liverpool multi story when it burnt down due to a petrol car catching fire, or all the people who lost 1200 cars in the inferno at Luton airport when a diesel Range Rover caught fire. Or the owners of dozens of classic cars that where destroyed in Dublin back in April 2024 when fuel caught fire, or the collection of classic cars destroyed in Palmerston, or the ICE vehicle inferno in Palermo….. or… shall I go on.
Tesla is second only to Ford for recalls. Tesla also has an entire department to discourage warranty claims and cancel warranty service appointments. Great company. Musk is a con man.
@@aussie2uGA Correct. So, to be safe, just ensure you buy a car that has no electronics. Oh. Are you somehow suggesting that one drivetrain is generally more susceptible to post-saltwater immersion than others? If so, please cite your data.
@aussie2uGA no that's not correct, it's also because salt water gets into the transmission vent, the front axle, the differential, the carpet, seats inside the doors , wheel bearings , steering gear and up the tail pipe into the engine etc etc etc, it's all bad for every car. It will also get into the fuel system in a gas car.
I was driving an ice vehicle which caught on fire. I got out before the flames completely destroyed my car. Also my late father in law had his garage burn to the ground from an ice vehicle fire. Further more I sold a Harley 1200 to a friend in the sixties. He had it in his father’s garage while adjusting the carburetor, it caught on fire, destroying his father’s garage. I have never seen an EV on fire in all my years.
@@richardweyland116 how is that? My 2019 model 3 costs me less than 3 cents per mile and I had one repair for the GPS antenna at $125 and new tires after 45k miles. No oil changes, no belts replaced, no battery failure, no alignment needed so far at nearly 60k miles.
@@RonBme 6 inches of water stopped no ICE from driving. Maling up complete bullshit to attempt to deflect from the Tesla that self immolated as soon as water touched the underside fools nobody except Elon fluffers.
@@RonBme post-flooded ICE vehicles *can* run, they just won't run well at best, depending on the damage, which is why after events where vehicles get flooded, you have to be careful with the used car market. It'll look OK for a while, but all that corrosion sets in and the car will rot away and electrical gremlins will drive you nuts even if they don't brick the car. With EVs, if you have saltwater intrusion in the battery pack, yeah, not good on the possible thermal runaway side of things, all the other corrosion issues will be there to haunt the car just as is the case with ICE vehicles. Still with EVs, the main issue is also that they "burn different" when they do catch fire, both can catch fire, but EVs are a tad more... extreme... with some gasses that you REALLY don't want to breath in, not that you want to breath in fumes from any vehicle on fire.
@@yarrik701 "With EV's, if you have saltwater intrusion in the battery pack", you have a defective "something". Most battery packs today are sealed from water entry and the CyberTruck can even "positive pressure" the battery pack. You did catch the clip of the Rivian that got submerged and pushed down stream then driven away?
which is fine - until there is no electric and you have no generator! storing some spare gas canisters just takes up room in your garage/ outside area.
@@suecharnock9369 Get two containers that each hold enough. Fill from them on rotation. Take each for a fill up when it's empty. Just make sure you don't end up with stale fuel that you can't use. Unless you know how to recondition it.
Solar and batteries are the game changer for EVs. Those good old Florida boys, like 90% of humans, live in areas where, averaged over ten years, it costs less to power your home with solar and batteries than to buy expensive electricity from your corrupt, local utility monopolies. For the self reliant and intelligent Americans who are home energy independent, it is a small step to buy an EV. You can then become mostly vehicle energy independent too, and stop funding Exxon climate change disinformation and Saudi terrorism. As worldwide demand for electricity (data storage, crypto, AI, electrification of everything) and gas (the world population is still growing which is increasingly causing resource shortages and conflicts), prepared people will generate and store their own energy.
I live a little south of these geniuses in Florida. It's amazing the bs you can see on social media and people believe it. Thanks for the fud fighting!!
I live on the East coast of Massachusetts where coastal flooding, unfortunately, is becoming common. I was driving along an ocean front road and was confronted with a few flooded areas. My depth estimation was at least 2 feet deep. I just went ahead and drove my Model 3 right through it. No problem. One bit of advice, if your car (or anything mechanical) is immersed in salt water, give it a good rinse with your garden hose or hit the car wash.
A good advise would be to NEVER drive thru water that you can't see the bottom of You don't know whats down there. The road could be flushed away and you sink with your car in to ab 20 foot abyss. You could get hit by a tree floating down with the current. Or just something simple as an open man hole
I own 2 Teslas. I only care about saving money, not being ripped off by dealers and ICE cars that get less reliable and more expensive to maintain every year. In California, gas is $1.5/gallon higher than the national average. The car bargain of the century is a 2-3 year old model 3 from Tesla(they inspect the cars) for around $25,000. There is still a long battery warranty and the car stays current with the constant software updates. Amazing!
I live in Central Fl and own a 2013 Tesla Model S with only 22k miles on it. I went out driving one night after the storm and took a different route home and on a dark road going around a corner I ended up in a pretty high flooded area and ended up getting the 12v battery warnings might not restart. I need a 12v battery replacement and have one on the way hopefully will be here this week sometime. Things would've probably been fine otherwise just dumb luck. I still love my EV and have no plans on returning to ICE vehicles, just waiting for my Aptera reservation to be ready!
Australia had "gas" (petrol) rationing in the 80s to deal with strikes by tanker drivers. You need to see the queues outside gas stations when there's a tanker driver strike in the UK. It's hilarious. An example of what happens when everyone tries to refuel at the same time....the infrastructure can't cope. Sound familiar? 😂
It’s happened once in my 40 years of driving in the U.K - even during the strike I didn’t run out of fuel , despite my 80 mile daily commute. I just drove slower and added fuel in smaller quantities when available, in all it lasted one week , total queue time about 20 minutes.
Hey @Ben, I just purchased a used EV and an important note about the tax rebate is that it is based on your income. If you have a family income above 150,000 (or single income about 75,000) you do not qualify.
Exactly. It was probably exactly like this 130 years ago, when the horseless carriage first appeared, threatening the use of horses for transport. In fact here in Britain at the time, some wealthy landowning types (some of who had huge interests in horse breeding) formed committees to lobby the government at the time. And they actually succeeded in getting a new law passed, requiring someone to walk in front of a motor car waving a red flag.... Ultimately it made no difference, as you can't halt progress. However, it isn't simply progress that's the issue. There is also the matter of depleting oil reserves. Oil is a finite resource, and will run dry one day. Some say within 25 to 30 years.
I remember Paris in the '90s when there were air quality alerts. They'd only allow even # plates one day and odd # plates the next. That was back when they still sold leaded gas, scooters were 2 stroke and diesels where everywhere. Jammed up the subways, but the buses ran faster and what a huge drop in noise and stink!
Ben, I am so glad that you make these videos. I have sent them to several different people in my life so far because of how they talk with limited knowledge about EV’s how bad they are for us. The video you made about cobalt being used in the manufacturing EV batteries I’ve used the most and the one about how it makes more carbon to create an EV vehicle than it does a gasoline vehicle I sent that one out too😆👍🏼
Also, BEFORE the hurricanes hit, the gas pumps were empty as people were filling up to evacuate while the grid was still fine, so could charge up EV without a [problem and then evacuate.
Typical FUD. Such pe'trolls always resort to extreme claims: "They" are gonna "take away" your gas car… your gas stove… your hamburgers… your guns. And people actually swallow such exaggerations hook, line, and sinker.
The best part is they don't gaf about GM forcing on the entire country car dependancy - that's just fine and dandy. Speak up against it and it's another culture war. Meanwhile, thousands of ppl bitch every day about traffic on I-4 in fl, and all the other roads, and accept it.
If everything had been labeled a culture war, maybe we'd still be breathing brown air in Southern California. Government is not going to make me be smart and save money
deep ball there...but on one level I agree. I just got back from Europe and rarely took a car for transport. Walking, biking, and subway are by far the easiest ways to get around when a city is properly designed. But alas, that ship has already sailed...
Public transport takes years, maybe decades of full commitment of running unprofitable for people to change culturally when it comes time to buy a new car. Buying a lot of groceries and going to the gym on the way home from work at night is a different thing using public transport.
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 so the better solution is to stay dependant on that same govt to allow you access to the fuel because no way they would abuse that right?(in Australia the govt wants to open their own fuel stations)
A brougham (pronounced Bro-M) is a 19th century four-wheeled carriage drawn by a single horse. It was named after the politician and jurist Lord Brougham, who had this type of carriage built to his specification. Another point is when they were complaining about the EVs being close to salt water, the picture of the Tesla in water on fire was due to the owner trying to jack up his Tesla out of the water (NOT using the jacking points) and puncturing the battery case, which caught fire when saltwater entered the now-damaged battery pack!
Source please, that would make sense if true. But I could also see a failed gasket being the culprit. Can't seem to find a source on it being jacked up. They used the air suspension to raise it is all I can find. Had to have been a really bad/nonexistent seal, the water was barely touching the bottom of the car. Guess that's Tesla's QC for you. Sometimes great, sometimes not so much. Or it had a repair done and wasn't put back together right. A couple inches of water pressure won't even break a wet paper bag.
@@BenSullinsOfficial There were a couple mentions that he had tried to jack up the Tesla in advance of the storm, but hadn't looked up the proper jacking points, and punctured the battery pack case. But looking back to the posted articles, those comments have been removed. My guess is that maybe they were looking at the huge liability of being responsible for burning down their home, and omitted the jacking mishap. To be fair, it could have also been a comment by a rabid Tesla fan, pretending to be in the know.
14:54 - I’m guessing he’s rambling from a vague recollection of when GM (not Ford) was still diagnosing the Bolt fires, and suggested owners not park in their garages, along with a few other measures. Of course, that issue has been solved now.
I was talking to my boss on Tesla. He was trying to talk me out of it lol. Telling me i can full my car in 5 mins. True, but we can start with a full battery every morning with home charging. Had to educate him all on what he heard from the Media. He's still skeptical about it. I was him at one time. Until i educate myself on EV's Hoping within couple of months i'll have a Tesla Model 3 in my garage. Love your channel
Another good debunk, keep it coming. I would much rather have my EV after a big natural event. The car battery would already be full and no gas station lines or rationing required. I also have solar so would keep the car battery top off each day in a grid down scenario. Just need to prevent the battery from getting immersed with salt water as a preparation task.
Fun memory of the OPEC Oil Embargo and even/odd gasoline fueling: My father had purchased two AMC Hornets. One was a sedan, the other a coupe. Interestingly, he was able to obtain sequential license plates for them. That meant that we were able to fuel one of our vehicles on any day of the week. Sweet!
I owned a new Jeep Scrambler that caught on fire as I pulled into work and one time I pulled a man out of his ice vehicle that caught on fire I had to brake his window and pull hem out his doors wouldn't open his car was full of smoke he was completely out of it no doubt i saved his life when he came around he was very grateful over the years I've seen several cars on the side of the road burning they were all ICE vehicles so far I've never seen a EV vehicle burning I'm not saying it couldn't happen though
I love those evs which have VTH, so in case of a black out you can use the battery of the car to heat up or cool down your house or charge all your devices. This feature could be life saving. 😊
Great video, Ben. It’s crucial we don’t get sidetracked by the EV vs. ICE debate, especially in crisis situations like post-flood scenarios. The real takeaway here should be how these events highlight the vulnerabilities in our centralized power systems. Instead of pointing fingers at EVs for needing electricity, let’s pivot the conversation towards promoting decentralized power grids. Decentralization can dramatically increase our resilience against such disruptions. Imagine if every home, neighborhood, or small community had the capability to generate, store, and share energy independently. This isn’t just about technology; it’s deeply rooted in American values: • Freedom: Freedom from reliance on a single, potentially failing power source. • Independence: Energy independence where we aren’t at the mercy of natural disasters or centralized grid failures. • Security: Enhanced security for our nation’s energy infrastructure, reducing risks of widespread blackouts. Let’s rally behind these values by advocating for policies that encourage solar panels on rooftops, community microgrids, and personal energy storage solutions. By focusing on these aspects, we not only bolster our energy security but also empower individuals and communities, fostering a more resilient and independent America. Thanks for bringing this up, Ben. It’s a conversation we need to push forward, not just for the EV community but for all Americans looking for stability, security, and sustainability in our energy future.
Lol, my chargers are installed outside as my garage is usually full of bikes, toys, and crap. So the idea that you can't charge even if you had to park out of the garage is laughable
Also the fact more EV's are moving to LFP batteries, the risk of fire is reducing even further. I also agree something else must have gone wrong with the Tesla bursting into flames in that garage.
I found this site recently and after watching a couple of videos I thought it was a good idea to subscribe. Excellent information backed up with facts and not just someone's personal opinion. Keep up the good work. FYI I currently drive a Land Rover Defender so I'm currently on the dark side but hope to move over to the green soon 🙂
Ben-first let me say that I love your YT site. It’s right up there with Electric Viking, Farzad and Futuraza. Every time I see an anti EV video from Scotty Kilmer, I right away scan for your rebuttals! I love Kilmer but sometimes he’s over the top w/ his anti EV bias. Keep up the great work!
It is a strange lie about the ev charging days. The ~17 oil refineries in California dont shut down during the high energy demand times. When each is using about 4kwh per gallon produced.
Ford recalled 180,000 EVs? Wow thats bad, not nice and friendly like the F-150 ignition switch recall 20 years ago when 7,000,000 F-150s were spontaneously combusting.
EV fires are nasty but they’re FAR less likely than ICE car fires. Look up the Edmunds article "Electric Car Fires: What You Should Know.” Really, look at the numbers in the reports they cite. Meanwhile I have solar and battery backup on my house, and I no longer have to worry about longer power outages, I just have to be smart about switching off loads. A Cybertruck with power sharing can add an additional 123kWh depth to a solar/battery system-equivalent to NINE Tesla Powerwall batteries-and I expect that other EVs will have similar features soon.
That IRS $4000 "rebate" only applies to used cars from dealers, and only once for the life of the car. It's a rebate at the point of sale. The law is a gift to dealers. The ones that know about it, already factor it into the price of the car, which since that price is always on par with private sellers, means they're simply pocketing the extra profit. If they don't know about it, good luck getting them to do the paperwork for you.
Ben, thank you so much! Sent your video to some of my friends who are literally fearful after seeing that Model X video catching fire (and caught on video)!
I live in Florida and seen the car fire in the garage several times. Watching your video taught me that the batteries should be waterproof. I had no other information beforehand. The more you know!
Ben-re concerning driving EVs in salt water…for one thing it is unquestionably DUMB to drive any vehicle in salt water, regardless of its power source! Salt corrodes things. That’s why cars of all types have rust and corrosion problems in snowy climates because salt is used to clear the roads after a snowstorm. In short, unless you really have to, avoid driving your EV or ICE car in deep water, or risk damage later on from corrosion. 😊
I've been a Tesla owner for 10 years and I think we ought to get over this notion of EVs not being for everybody. I can't think of one instance (NOT ONE) of an ICE vehicle not being able to be replaced successfully by an EV. I know they can be expensive but so is the environment, safety, AND convenience. If people think that security of gasoline is important remember that no one is going to be pumping anything if the power goes off. So that is of little condolence. And if the power is on that's no guarantee that gas stations will have the product--like in a hurricane that you demonstrated. So full stop on EVs not being for everybody. Just an example: The findings of a government report underscore that most fatal motor-vehicle related CO poisonings occur in northern states and during the colder months (1,4 8). The CO in motor-vehicle exhaust accounts for the most poisoning deaths in the United States caused by a single agent (8). Of the 11,547 unintentional CO deaths during 1979 1988, 57% were caused by motor-vehicle exhaust; of these, 83% were associated with stationary vehicles (1). Most motor-vehicle related CO deaths in garages have occurred even though the garage doors or windows have been open (6), suggesting that passive ventilation may not be adequate to reduce risk in semi-enclosed spaces. Deaths also have occurred in working or living quarters adjacent to enclosed garages with vehicular sources of CO. (bit.ly/40dQKxS) Not a common occurrence but it does happen. This will NOT happen to an EV family. I have lots more examples but it can be argued that EVs are over all SAFER than a gasoline car. So let's stop this about EVs not being for everyone. Safety should be for EVERYONE.
Unfortunately long distance towing is not there yet. We need infrastructure to be built with pull through spots. Serious hybrids might be the future for some people.
@@nathanielthelin1051there's nothing wrong with long distance EV towing, there are even many unique benefits. EV semis are on the road already. The problem is infrastructure - both that accommodate towing and that can accommodate the reduced range that extra weight and (more importantly) reduced aerodynamics can bring. But again, that's an infrastructure problem. I don't disagree that hybrids will likely be relevant for a long time, but I think it should be only a very niche technology used in places where electrifying isn't profitable. And then you think... Once I have solar and other distributed energy generation and a battery, I don't have to truck in fuel anymore.. Might actually work for those really rural areas.
Then we need more charging ASAP. I live in rural MN that's had a Model 3 for 4 years, I can't make it to Warroad or other areas up in there in the winter time. There are no charging options at all. We have to take my friends gas truck up there. I also like to take road trips to national parks, that's been real rough at times. I'd like a plug in hybrid truck like the RAMCHARGER that's coming out. That will likely be too expensive, but I love the idea. ~200mi of electric only range and a generator to kick in when I can't charge or for towing. Maybe a smaller Ranger size with a smaller generator and battery. As long as it gets ~150mi electric and can pull 2-3000lb on the generator alone. And if a gas station has gas, but no power, a generator could solve that if they already have one or could source one to at least get 1 pump going. At least until they run out. It's why I want solar at my next house that way I can charge if everything else goes down, barring a big hail storm doesn't damage them. We've had tennis ball size hail in the area this year, I got lucky and only got marble size those times.
Not one instance? Not too bright then, are you? I can tell you several situations right off the top of my head that EVs are not suitable for. Working in forestry, mineral exploration, search and rescue, game warden, forest ranger, or any other job that takes you hundreds of miles off the beaten path. Living anywhere in northern Canada where the nearest fast charger is several hundred, or even more than one thousand, miles away. Plowing snow after a major storm, where the truck can be going non stop for 30 hours.
Do people forget that we have electric boats and every modern boat has a crap ton of electric wiring - and probably quite a few batteries to boot... Yea, don't drop a naked battery in the ocean, but this is definitely misinformation gone wild
It isn't that expensive to go to Pebble Beach for the Concours, either. I went several years ago, got a room at the aLoft in Cupertino (which was like checking into a iPhone). Lucid had a exhibit set up outside the event that year. Now if I could find that hat...
Imagine a motorhead club trashing on EV's. Shocking(no pun intended)............................. Ben you are rapidly becoming my favorite yoootooober. Amazing how facts crash so many narratives.
The problem with solar and wind oversupply is that, by definition, it happens when you *_don't_* need the power. Solar & wind have a nasty tendency to stop producing power just when you need them the most. They don't provide reliable baseload power, and they are not dispatchable. In fact, both wind and solar output often drop to near zero around dusk, which is right in the middle of that 4-9 PM peak demand period that you mentioned at around 7:18. That makes the energy they produce much less valuable than energy from reliable baseload and dispatchable sources.
I was just thinking wouldn’t there be a crowd of people at the gas stations before the storm? Then you showed that line and holy smokes you can charge your car for over an hour and still beat that line. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of those trucks got an extra 40gallons tank too so that’s an even longer wait
"Brougham" is a hamlet in Cumbria, northern England. A very picturesque place on the River Eamont with a well preserved castle. It is pronounced "Broom".
Might also be talking about how some parking lots with block heater receptacles in parking lots run on an alternating programming - 20min, 20 min off or something like that. Except that these guys are in Florida so would they even know what a block heater is? Hopefully this makes people question, why do parking lots have receptacles for block heaters? Apartment buildings, of course for through the night. But even schools and businesses have parking lot receptacles with huge power requirements. Why? I don’t know why this is made a priority given modern cars?? Then, there’s diesel trucks which many plug in from September to May where I live.
I drove a Nissan Leaf for 12 years and zero mechanical issues. 1 set of shocks and brakes and many sets of tires. No oil changes, no transmission services and always full in the morning. Bought a Tesla a couple months ago hoping for a good 12 years out of it too.
I'm glad your back bro! I mean that! When I see you holding a laugh with Elon and commenting to his post on X I'll know things are back to norm.. love you bro keep going!!🍻
Hell yeah man. I felt incredibly empowered during Helene and Milton with our Tesla’s and EVs even helped rescue folks while everyone else was out of gas.
I will always choose a good EV for these instances. Home backup, reliable transport and plenty more lol.
Good stuff!
Watch out for deep water they don't float
@CYBRLFT for the first time in mankind's history we can have our home and vehicles off the grid. That's the goal.
And what you think about the Yang Wang U8 that can float on water and cruise on it ?
This is awesome !
@CYBRLFT can I interview you on my channel? Sarasota resident.
You're doing a great job debunking these lies! Nicely done Mr Sullins
He’s not. Just providing slightly different points of view that make the claims sound like lies. Charging infrastructure and available charging stations that actually work, and at a reasonable charge rate, aren’t at an acceptable level for most. And charging at home? Only if you own your house, don’t live in an apartment block and/or don’t have a large battery that won’t charge overnight.
He pointed the simple facts these EV’s have FAR more dilemma issues than Tesla FRAUD bias media purveys.
Their countless issues still WORSEN daily.
Self Ignite and re-ignite batteries. ETC, the list is Lengthy EV’s have. Worse resale BIGGEST loss in value then ALL items on American soil.
You're doing a great job shilling these crappy vehicles! Nicely done Mr Sullins
@@cristiovanniI guess you missed the news that Tesla has had the highest brand loyalty of any auto brand in the US for three years running. Highest by a wide margin.
Used EV are so cheap and in such great demand...that the US government will discount them with a rebate. It's a great deal considering they're mandating the demise of ICE vehicles.
As a trial lawyer I have litigated cases where ICE cars caught fire in a garage and burned the house down.
Exactly. ICE cars are 13 time more likely to catch fire than an EV, and hybrids are far worse. Anti-EV proponents like to ignore these facts.
@@joewhip9303 were any of them the Ford F150 cruise control recall issue? I'm wondering how many people that affected.
@@chunkychuck I do not recall the exact models.
it will happen - but the main point for me is the toxicity, speed and ferocity of EV fires. They can not be put out in about 30 minutes like a full on ICE fire. They need hundreds of gallons more water and re-ignite spontaneously as well. NONE of which ICE fires do.
@@suecharnock9369 ICE fires don't spontaneously reignite?! LoL
I've never seen a vehicle fire that wasn't catastrophic, including my neighbors in their backyard. It's hard to be more catastrophic than completely catastrophic.
It's like being more afraid of falling 100 stories instead of falling 20.
In Sarasota Florida after both hurricanes. The only people that didn't have range anxiety was EV drivers. There was no gas anywhere a week after the hurricane passed. No services dependent on gas worked either. Uber Eats, any delivery service all down. Only delivery services was Amazon in their electric Rivian Van. Gas was a complete failure when everyone need it at the same time.
Yessir. Been driving all over Sarasota before during and after. Love my model 3.
EVs are nice and all but that’s why you refuel before a storm, also if possible get some more to run a generator in case you lose power.
EVs are better.
Proceeds to show how much an EV depreciate 😮.
@VortexVibe634 EV’S and ICE vehicle market has changed forever. EV prices will behave more like a consumer electronic than a typical vehicle of the past. More like computers, phone, etc. Because it is more of a computer than a ICE engine vehicle. The prices will continue to drop as the range and power rises. Once EV price and range are the same, ICE will die. RIP
@@OasisAmps yes and with manufacturers backing out of off the EV craze that would be in 300 years, btw Im considering getting an EV truck in the future cause for my line of works it makes a lot of sense, I need a truck but I typically drive about 30-40 miles per day
Any car submerged for a significant amount of time will be ruined….gas, diesel, or EV no matter
Except the new U8 that FLOATS...^^
The issue is not the Getting damage and not Working, the issue is continue to Work as normal however burning the all house when you attempt to charge it 🤷 I m not sure how frequent it happens however it has been reported
@@niceboy60 it happens, but it happens more often with petrol cars. It is so much more common that it doesn’t get reported. Insurance claim statistics don’t lie.
@@jgreen9361 sadly it's irrelevant and not comparable because Combustion car fires can easily be put Down, the Prospect of fires which can't be stopped raises new Fear levels
@@niceboy60 Tell that to the 1600 vehicle owners who lost their cars in the 1100 degree inferno at the Liverpool multi story when it burnt down due to a petrol car catching fire, or all the people who lost 1200 cars in the inferno at Luton airport when a diesel Range Rover caught fire. Or the owners of dozens of classic cars that where destroyed in Dublin back in April 2024 when fuel caught fire, or the collection of classic cars destroyed in Palmerston, or the ICE vehicle inferno in Palermo….. or… shall I go on.
And on a day when Honda announced the recall of 700,000 Civics, Accords, and CR-Vs … because they can catch on fire because of faulty fuel pumps.
wow, what timing!
I bet mguy won’t report that!
Tesla is second only to Ford for recalls. Tesla also has an entire department to discourage warranty claims and cancel warranty service appointments. Great company. Musk is a con man.
As a retired technician I can assure you the last car you want to purchase is ANY CAR OF ANY DRIVETRAIN that was submerged in saltwater.
True, but remember, thats because of what it does to electronics.
Not always, saltwater isn't great for differentials and u-joint either.
Flood cars have been a thing since about 2 weeks after the Model T started rolling out the door.
@@aussie2uGA Correct. So, to be safe, just ensure you buy a car that has no electronics. Oh. Are you somehow suggesting that one drivetrain is generally more susceptible to post-saltwater immersion than others? If so, please cite your data.
@aussie2uGA no that's not correct, it's also because salt water gets into the transmission vent, the front axle, the differential, the carpet, seats inside the doors , wheel bearings , steering gear and up the tail pipe into the engine etc etc etc, it's all bad for every car. It will also get into the fuel system in a gas car.
I was driving an ice vehicle which caught on fire. I got out before the flames completely destroyed my car. Also my late father in law had his garage burn to the ground from an ice vehicle fire. Further more I sold a Harley 1200 to a friend in the sixties. He had it in his father’s garage while adjusting the carburetor, it caught on fire, destroying his father’s garage. I have never seen an EV on fire in all my years.
You need to watch Stacey dash training . You also need to watch my guy Australia who lists out everyday or two problems with EVS.
@@davidclemens1578 That Australia guy is joke.
Not for much longer ;)
ICE cars start on fire all the time. A friend of mine lost her Subaru when it started on fire a couple years ago.
what are you lot doing? in the UK I have seen five ICE fires in over 30 years! and the majority of those have been BMWs
Wow. I have a model 3 and a Y, both bought new. Neither cost us $50K.
The best thing about EV's is that they identify idiots.
@@richardweyland116 how is that? My 2019 model 3 costs me less than 3 cents per mile and I had one repair for the GPS antenna at $125 and new tires after 45k miles. No oil changes, no belts replaced, no battery failure, no alignment needed so far at nearly 60k miles.
Teo in a few years lol
@@richardweyland116 Yeah because it identifies the charlatans that are stuck in the past and scared of the future.
Apparently saltwater and EVS don't mix. Last time I checked apparently water and gas powered cars don't mix either
Never saw a gas car burst into flame in 6 inches of salt water.
@@TroySavary but U never saw it drive again either.. u also hav a lot of them the just spontaneous combust without warning
@@RonBme 6 inches of water stopped no ICE from driving. Maling up complete bullshit to attempt to deflect from the Tesla that self immolated as soon as water touched the underside fools nobody except Elon fluffers.
@@RonBme post-flooded ICE vehicles *can* run, they just won't run well at best, depending on the damage, which is why after events where vehicles get flooded, you have to be careful with the used car market. It'll look OK for a while, but all that corrosion sets in and the car will rot away and electrical gremlins will drive you nuts even if they don't brick the car. With EVs, if you have saltwater intrusion in the battery pack, yeah, not good on the possible thermal runaway side of things, all the other corrosion issues will be there to haunt the car just as is the case with ICE vehicles.
Still with EVs, the main issue is also that they "burn different" when they do catch fire, both can catch fire, but EVs are a tad more... extreme... with some gasses that you REALLY don't want to breath in, not that you want to breath in fumes from any vehicle on fire.
@@yarrik701 "With EV's, if you have saltwater intrusion in the battery pack", you have a defective "something". Most battery packs today are sealed from water entry and the CyberTruck can even "positive pressure" the battery pack. You did catch the clip of the Rivian that got submerged and pushed down stream then driven away?
I love all of the EV haters who start by saying “I don’t hate EVs but….” It’s like saying “I’m not racist but…”
Great take
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Blue state vibes
@@GWinvader101 what's that mean?... Lol pointless.
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I wonder how many of them people in that gas line had a change of heart about EVs when they saw those Teslas charging up.
which is fine - until there is no electric and you have no generator! storing some spare gas canisters just takes up room in your garage/ outside area.
@@suecharnock9369 Get two containers that each hold enough. Fill from them on rotation. Take each for a fill up when it's empty. Just make sure you don't end up with stale fuel that you can't use. Unless you know how to recondition it.
Solar and batteries are the game changer for EVs. Those good old Florida boys, like 90% of humans, live in areas where, averaged over ten years, it costs less to power your home with solar and batteries than to buy expensive electricity from your corrupt, local utility monopolies. For the self reliant and intelligent Americans who are home energy independent, it is a small step to buy an EV. You can then become mostly vehicle energy independent too, and stop funding Exxon climate change disinformation and Saudi terrorism. As worldwide demand for electricity (data storage, crypto, AI, electrification of everything) and gas (the world population is still growing which is increasingly causing resource shortages and conflicts), prepared people will generate and store their own energy.
I live a little south of these geniuses in Florida. It's amazing the bs you can see on social media and people believe it. Thanks for the fud fighting!!
FUD Busting makes me feel good!
I live on the East coast of Massachusetts where coastal flooding, unfortunately, is becoming common. I was driving along an ocean front road and was confronted with a few flooded areas. My depth estimation was at least 2 feet deep. I just went ahead and drove my Model 3 right through it. No problem. One bit of advice, if your car (or anything mechanical) is immersed in salt water, give it a good rinse with your garden hose or hit the car wash.
A good advise would be to NEVER drive thru water that you can't see the bottom of
You don't know whats down there. The road could be flushed away and you sink with your car in to ab 20 foot abyss. You could get hit by a tree floating down with the current. Or just something simple as an open man hole
Extremely bad idea to immerse in saltwater
I learned two things by watching these guys: 1. Florida is on the east coast. 2. Florida is near the ocean.
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3. Flooding wrecks all cars, just like it wrecks all houses.
4. Don’t live in Florida.
Thank you Ben for fighting against the liars and ignoramuses.
And don’t forget “Luddites”.
I own 2 Teslas. I only care about saving money, not being ripped off by dealers and ICE cars that get less reliable and more expensive to maintain every year. In California, gas is $1.5/gallon higher than the national average. The car bargain of the century is a 2-3 year old model 3 from Tesla(they inspect the cars) for around $25,000. There is still a long battery warranty and the car stays current with the constant software updates. Amazing!
Your lucky, gas in the UK is more than $1.50/litre.
@@od5699 u need to re-read what he said
Amazing!!
I live in Central Fl and own a 2013 Tesla Model S with only 22k miles on it. I went out driving one night after the storm and took a different route home and on a dark road going around a corner I ended up in a pretty high flooded area and ended up getting the 12v battery warnings might not restart. I need a 12v battery replacement and have one on the way hopefully will be here this week sometime. Things would've probably been fine otherwise just dumb luck. I still love my EV and have no plans on returning to ICE vehicles, just waiting for my Aptera reservation to be ready!
Australia had "gas" (petrol) rationing in the 80s to deal with strikes by tanker drivers. You need to see the queues outside gas stations when there's a tanker driver strike in the UK. It's hilarious.
An example of what happens when everyone tries to refuel at the same time....the infrastructure can't cope. Sound familiar? 😂
It’s happened once in my 40 years of driving in the U.K - even during the strike I didn’t run out of fuel , despite my 80 mile daily commute. I just drove slower and added fuel in smaller quantities when available, in all it lasted one week , total queue time about 20 minutes.
@@bordersw1239I remember that too. We did car sharing at work to help save total fuel use.
Hey @Ben, I just purchased a used EV and an important note about the tax rebate is that it is based on your income. If you have a family income above 150,000 (or single income about 75,000) you do not qualify.
Also second hand, not third hand
The place for EV's is everywhere as soon as possible !🤔👍👍👍
Apparently there have been hidden nomadic Societies in the United States who travel over 300 miles a day
Jonathan Swift quotes from around 1700 seem so fitting these days.. “You cant reason someone out of an opinion they didn’t reason themselves in to”..
Great work once again Ben! Thank you!
I love how Electric cars catching fire are big concerns when there's a regular a car fire roughly every five minutes in America.
The NTSB recorded 180'000 ICE car fires during 2022. Around 6 diesel powered school buses catch fire in the US each day...
Change is scary. EVs are change. They feel threatened. That must be really hard for them. They should each get a cookie.
even post-saltwater submerged bicycles are ruined.
Exactly. It was probably exactly like this 130 years ago, when the horseless carriage first appeared, threatening the use of horses for transport. In fact here in Britain at the time, some wealthy landowning types (some of who had huge interests in horse breeding) formed committees to lobby the government at the time. And they actually succeeded in getting a new law passed, requiring someone to walk in front of a motor car waving a red flag.... Ultimately it made no difference, as you can't halt progress. However, it isn't simply progress that's the issue. There is also the matter of depleting oil reserves. Oil is a finite resource, and will run dry one day. Some say within 25 to 30 years.
their dads were likely involved in boycotting Japanese cars. same old shit.
Or maybe they buy vehicles with us corporate branding that are manufactured out of the country
I remember Paris in the '90s when there were air quality alerts.
They'd only allow even # plates one day and odd # plates the next.
That was back when they still sold leaded gas, scooters were 2 stroke and diesels where everywhere.
Jammed up the subways, but the buses ran faster and what a huge drop in noise and stink!
Did you see any large cities during the COVID lockdowns? The clean air was glorious.
My neighbor's house was burned to the ground by a Ford F-150 with the bad brake pressure sensor that was part of the cruise control.
Keep up the good work Ben cheers from Sydney Australia
Ben, I am so glad that you make these videos. I have sent them to several different people in my life so far because of how they talk with limited knowledge about EV’s how bad they are for us. The video you made about cobalt being used in the manufacturing EV batteries I’ve used the most and the one about how it makes more carbon to create an EV vehicle than it does a gasoline vehicle I sent that one out too😆👍🏼
Also, BEFORE the hurricanes hit, the gas pumps were empty as people were filling up to evacuate while the grid was still fine, so could charge up EV without a [problem and then evacuate.
Exactly. But for some strange reason, the EV doubters seem to feel you have to charge an EV up every day.
Typical FUD. Such pe'trolls always resort to extreme claims: "They" are gonna "take away" your gas car… your gas stove… your hamburgers… your guns. And people actually swallow such exaggerations hook, line, and sinker.
The best part is they don't gaf about GM forcing on the entire country car dependancy - that's just fine and dandy. Speak up against it and it's another culture war.
Meanwhile, thousands of ppl bitch every day about traffic on I-4 in fl, and all the other roads, and accept it.
If everything had been labeled a culture war, maybe we'd still be breathing brown air in Southern California.
Government is not going to make me be smart and save money
deep ball there...but on one level I agree. I just got back from Europe and rarely took a car for transport. Walking, biking, and subway are by far the easiest ways to get around when a city is properly designed. But alas, that ship has already sailed...
Public transport takes years, maybe decades of full commitment of running unprofitable for people to change culturally when it comes time to buy a new car. Buying a lot of groceries and going to the gym on the way home from work at night is a different thing using public transport.
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 so the better solution is to stay dependant on that same govt to allow you access to the fuel because no way they would abuse that right?(in Australia the govt wants to open their own fuel stations)
I just went through hurricane Milton. Gas stations were empty and I charged my Tesla Model Y off my own DIY solar.
It is so refreshing to listen to a channel that stays grounded in factual analysis and stays away from the emotional shark baiting rhetoric.
Exactly. Science doesn't care about your feelings, just about the (accurate) data.
A brougham (pronounced Bro-M) is a 19th century four-wheeled carriage drawn by a single horse. It was named after the politician and jurist Lord Brougham, who had this type of carriage built to his specification. Another point is when they were complaining about the EVs being close to salt water, the picture of the Tesla in water on fire was due to the owner trying to jack up his Tesla out of the water (NOT using the jacking points) and puncturing the battery case, which caught fire when saltwater entered the now-damaged battery pack!
Wait really? Do we have evidence of that?
Source please, that would make sense if true. But I could also see a failed gasket being the culprit.
Can't seem to find a source on it being jacked up. They used the air suspension to raise it is all I can find. Had to have been a really bad/nonexistent seal, the water was barely touching the bottom of the car. Guess that's Tesla's QC for you. Sometimes great, sometimes not so much. Or it had a repair done and wasn't put back together right. A couple inches of water pressure won't even break a wet paper bag.
@@BenSullinsOfficial There were a couple mentions that he had tried to jack up the Tesla in advance of the storm, but hadn't looked up the proper jacking points, and punctured the battery pack case. But looking back to the posted articles, those comments have been removed. My guess is that maybe they were looking at the huge liability of being responsible for burning down their home, and omitted the jacking mishap. To be fair, it could have also been a comment by a rabid Tesla fan, pretending to be in the know.
Thanks!
Incredible thank you! 🙏
I just bought my 1st EV it's a 25 Nissan leaf sv and im loving it. Charging is like 10 bucks every time and it's once a week
14:54 - I’m guessing he’s rambling from a vague recollection of when GM (not Ford) was still diagnosing the Bolt fires, and suggested owners not park in their garages, along with a few other measures. Of course, that issue has been solved now.
I was talking to my boss on Tesla. He was trying to talk me out of it lol. Telling me i can full my car in 5 mins. True, but we can start with a full battery every morning with home charging. Had to educate him all on what he heard from the Media. He's still skeptical about it. I was him at one time. Until i educate myself on EV's Hoping within couple of months i'll have a Tesla Model 3 in my garage. Love your channel
Another good debunk, keep it coming.
I would much rather have my EV after a big natural event. The car battery would already be full and no gas station lines or rationing required. I also have solar so would keep the car battery top off each day in a grid down scenario. Just need to prevent the battery from getting immersed with salt water as a preparation task.
Fun memory of the OPEC Oil Embargo and even/odd gasoline fueling: My father had purchased two AMC Hornets. One was a sedan, the other a coupe. Interestingly, he was able to obtain sequential license plates for them. That meant that we were able to fuel one of our vehicles on any day of the week. Sweet!
You could get great deals on Cadillacs and other fat pigs then
I owned a new Jeep Scrambler that caught on fire as I pulled into work and one time I pulled a man out of his ice vehicle that caught on fire I had to brake his window and pull hem out his doors wouldn't open his car was full of smoke he was completely out of it no doubt i saved his life when he came around he was very grateful over the years I've seen several cars on the side of the road burning they were all ICE vehicles so far I've never seen a EV vehicle burning I'm not saying it couldn't happen though
Another great FUDbusting video!
12:40 Good thing "the whole house burnt down" but the video camera and footage survived.
Most brands will record to the cloud real time nowadays.
@@andrewt9204 ya was a Nest cam.
I love these videos. Keep it up!
When someone says the pizza delivery guy has to buy a $50k EV, you know he is an EV hater.
@@orionbetelgeuse1937an inexpensive EV. It’s that easy. You didn’t watch the video, right?
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 used Tesla with good few years of battery warranty still available
@@orionbetelgeuse1937Steaw man argument also at the moment. Ic cars will be around for a long time.
@@chrispapanastasopoulos9192 Until people realize they cost more to run.
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 Why, plenty of 2019 Teslas driving around, battery warranty still good for 3 years unless it has huge amount of miles on it
Another great video Ben!
Ben. I’m so glad you’re fighting the seemingly endless FUD on EVs. Great work!
I love those evs which have VTH, so in case of a black out you can use the battery of the car to heat up or cool down your house or charge all your devices.
This feature could be life saving. 😊
Great video, Ben. It’s crucial we don’t get sidetracked by the EV vs. ICE debate, especially in crisis situations like post-flood scenarios. The real takeaway here should be how these events highlight the vulnerabilities in our centralized power systems.
Instead of pointing fingers at EVs for needing electricity, let’s pivot the conversation towards promoting decentralized power grids. Decentralization can dramatically increase our resilience against such disruptions. Imagine if every home, neighborhood, or small community had the capability to generate, store, and share energy independently. This isn’t just about technology; it’s deeply rooted in American values:
• Freedom: Freedom from reliance on a single, potentially failing power source.
• Independence: Energy independence where we aren’t at the mercy of natural disasters or centralized grid failures.
• Security: Enhanced security for our nation’s energy infrastructure, reducing risks of widespread blackouts.
Let’s rally behind these values by advocating for policies that encourage solar panels on rooftops, community microgrids, and personal energy storage solutions. By focusing on these aspects, we not only bolster our energy security but also empower individuals and communities, fostering a more resilient and independent America.
Thanks for bringing this up, Ben. It’s a conversation we need to push forward, not just for the EV community but for all Americans looking for stability, security, and sustainability in our energy future.
Lol, my chargers are installed outside as my garage is usually full of bikes, toys, and crap. So the idea that you can't charge even if you had to park out of the garage is laughable
Do people put cars in garages, that's crazy
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My charger is outside. It is bolted to the side of my house. I use my garage for storage.
@@Brian-om2hhas it should be
Also the fact more EV's are moving to LFP batteries, the risk of fire is reducing even further. I also agree something else must have gone wrong with the Tesla bursting into flames in that garage.
Awesome work, Ben.
Well said. Thanks for the reality check.
Great video !! Always great to see fud compared to actual facts.
I found this site recently and after watching a couple of videos I thought it was a good idea to subscribe. Excellent information backed up with facts and not just someone's personal opinion. Keep up the good work. FYI I currently drive a Land Rover Defender so I'm currently on the dark side but hope to move over to the green soon 🙂
Excellent video thanks Ben
The internet seems not to have been made solely for the consumption of porn, but almost certainly for the production of FUD.
And cat videos.
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And streamers, which does sometimes fall into that first category, lol.
Great video mate. Keep up the good work. Love your FUD busting videos.
Ben-first let me say that I love your YT site. It’s right up there with Electric Viking, Farzad and Futuraza. Every time I see an anti EV video from Scotty Kilmer, I right away scan for your rebuttals! I love Kilmer but sometimes he’s over the top w/ his anti EV bias. Keep up the great work!
You know Jay Leno has a 1909 baker EV. I love Evs and I'm a fan of turning classic vehicles into EVs.❤❤
I think some people really like the smell of gasoline.
Oh look, a troll! Isn't it cute!
In Norway and Denmark, EVs are the most sold cars - and the charging infrastructure is in place - so no problem :D
Moreover, EVs are cheap to operate
Yeah? No. Tesla does not provide a 22ft cable. You have to buy it.
It is a strange lie about the ev charging days. The ~17 oil refineries in California dont shut down during the high energy demand times. When each is using about 4kwh per gallon produced.
Ford recalled 180,000 EVs? Wow thats bad, not nice and friendly like the F-150 ignition switch recall 20 years ago when 7,000,000 F-150s were spontaneously combusting.
EV fires are nasty but they’re FAR less likely than ICE car fires. Look up the Edmunds article "Electric Car Fires: What You Should Know.” Really, look at the numbers in the reports they cite. Meanwhile I have solar and battery backup on my house, and I no longer have to worry about longer power outages, I just have to be smart about switching off loads. A Cybertruck with power sharing can add an additional 123kWh depth to a solar/battery system-equivalent to NINE Tesla Powerwall batteries-and I expect that other EVs will have similar features soon.
That IRS $4000 "rebate" only applies to used cars from dealers, and only once for the life of the car. It's a rebate at the point of sale.
The law is a gift to dealers. The ones that know about it, already factor it into the price of the car, which since that price is always on par with private sellers, means they're simply pocketing the extra profit. If they don't know about it, good luck getting them to do the paperwork for you.
Thanks again Ben for this great correction of myths
Ben, thank you so much! Sent your video to some of my friends who are literally fearful after seeing that Model X video catching fire (and caught on video)!
Good job fighting the FUD Ben, keep it going ;)
I live in Florida and seen the car fire in the garage several times. Watching your video taught me that the batteries should be waterproof. I had no other information beforehand. The more you know!
Love your work. Last I heard that video of the Tesla in a garage on fire was also faked. Your comments are all spot on as usual though!
love the "hate to whore myself out" clip at the end, too perfect!
After the Tesla caught fire in the garage, look at all the debris in the garage like there was a much higher flood line prior to Fire
A couple of true MORUNS.
You are a fabulous resource
Good stuff, as always!
Ben-re concerning driving EVs in salt water…for one thing it is unquestionably DUMB to drive any vehicle in salt water, regardless of its power source! Salt corrodes things. That’s why cars of all types have rust and corrosion problems in snowy climates because salt is used to clear the roads after a snowstorm. In short, unless you really have to, avoid driving your EV or ICE car in deep water, or risk damage later on from corrosion. 😊
Great video I hope more people see this!
I've been a Tesla owner for 10 years and I think we ought to get over this notion of EVs not being for everybody. I can't think of one instance (NOT ONE) of an ICE vehicle not being able to be replaced successfully by an EV. I know they can be expensive but so is the environment, safety, AND convenience. If people think that security of gasoline is important remember that no one is going to be pumping anything if the power goes off. So that is of little condolence. And if the power is on that's no guarantee that gas stations will have the product--like in a hurricane that you demonstrated. So full stop on EVs not being for everybody.
Just an example: The findings of a government report underscore that most fatal motor-vehicle related CO poisonings occur in northern states and during the colder months (1,4 8). The CO in motor-vehicle exhaust accounts for the most poisoning deaths in the United States caused by a single agent (8). Of the 11,547 unintentional CO deaths during 1979 1988, 57% were caused by motor-vehicle exhaust; of these, 83% were associated with stationary vehicles (1). Most motor-vehicle related CO deaths in garages have occurred even though the garage doors or windows have been open (6), suggesting that passive ventilation may not be adequate to reduce risk in semi-enclosed spaces. Deaths also have occurred in working or living quarters adjacent to enclosed garages with vehicular sources of CO. (bit.ly/40dQKxS)
Not a common occurrence but it does happen. This will NOT happen to an EV family.
I have lots more examples but it can be argued that EVs are over all SAFER than a gasoline car.
So let's stop this about EVs not being for everyone. Safety should be for EVERYONE.
Unfortunately long distance towing is not there yet. We need infrastructure to be built with pull through spots. Serious hybrids might be the future for some people.
@@nathanielthelin1051there's nothing wrong with long distance EV towing, there are even many unique benefits. EV semis are on the road already.
The problem is infrastructure - both that accommodate towing and that can accommodate the reduced range that extra weight and (more importantly) reduced aerodynamics can bring. But again, that's an infrastructure problem.
I don't disagree that hybrids will likely be relevant for a long time, but I think it should be only a very niche technology used in places where electrifying isn't profitable. And then you think... Once I have solar and other distributed energy generation and a battery, I don't have to truck in fuel anymore.. Might actually work for those really rural areas.
Then we need more charging ASAP. I live in rural MN that's had a Model 3 for 4 years, I can't make it to Warroad or other areas up in there in the winter time. There are no charging options at all. We have to take my friends gas truck up there. I also like to take road trips to national parks, that's been real rough at times.
I'd like a plug in hybrid truck like the RAMCHARGER that's coming out. That will likely be too expensive, but I love the idea. ~200mi of electric only range and a generator to kick in when I can't charge or for towing. Maybe a smaller Ranger size with a smaller generator and battery. As long as it gets ~150mi electric and can pull 2-3000lb on the generator alone.
And if a gas station has gas, but no power, a generator could solve that if they already have one or could source one to at least get 1 pump going. At least until they run out. It's why I want solar at my next house that way I can charge if everything else goes down, barring a big hail storm doesn't damage them. We've had tennis ball size hail in the area this year, I got lucky and only got marble size those times.
Not one instance? Not too bright then, are you? I can tell you several situations right off the top of my head that EVs are not suitable for. Working in forestry, mineral exploration, search and rescue, game warden, forest ranger, or any other job that takes you hundreds of miles off the beaten path. Living anywhere in northern Canada where the nearest fast charger is several hundred, or even more than one thousand, miles away. Plowing snow after a major storm, where the truck can be going non stop for 30 hours.
@@TroySavary plow truck would be a real big ask for a ev.
Do people forget that we have electric boats and every modern boat has a crap ton of electric wiring - and probably quite a few batteries to boot... Yea, don't drop a naked battery in the ocean, but this is definitely misinformation gone wild
It isn't that expensive to go to Pebble Beach for the Concours, either. I went several years ago, got a room at the aLoft in Cupertino (which was like checking into a iPhone). Lucid had a exhibit set up outside the event that year. Now if I could find that hat...
Imagine a motorhead club trashing on EV's. Shocking(no pun intended)............................. Ben you are rapidly becoming my favorite yoootooober. Amazing how facts crash so many narratives.
Hey, that's my Wawa.
That was my experience as well.
The problem with solar and wind oversupply is that, by definition, it happens when you *_don't_* need the power. Solar & wind have a nasty tendency to stop producing power just when you need them the most. They don't provide reliable baseload power, and they are not dispatchable. In fact, both wind and solar output often drop to near zero around dusk, which is right in the middle of that 4-9 PM peak demand period that you mentioned at around 7:18. That makes the energy they produce much less valuable than energy from reliable baseload and dispatchable sources.
Very well done! 👏👏👏👏
I was just thinking wouldn’t there be a crowd of people at the gas stations before the storm? Then you showed that line and holy smokes you can charge your car for over an hour and still beat that line. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of those trucks got an extra 40gallons tank too so that’s an even longer wait
"Brougham" is a hamlet in Cumbria, northern England. A very picturesque place on the River Eamont with a well preserved castle. It is pronounced "Broom".
Or brome, or at least the cars
Holden Brougham.... Australia😊
Might also be talking about how some parking lots with block heater receptacles in parking lots run on an alternating programming - 20min, 20 min off or something like that. Except that these guys are in Florida so would they even know what a block heater is? Hopefully this makes people question, why do parking lots have receptacles for block heaters? Apartment buildings, of course for through the night. But even schools and businesses have parking lot receptacles with huge power requirements. Why? I don’t know why this is made a priority given modern cars?? Then, there’s diesel trucks which many plug in from September to May where I live.
I drove a Nissan Leaf for 12 years and zero mechanical issues. 1 set of shocks and brakes and many sets of tires. No oil changes, no transmission services and always full in the morning. Bought a Tesla a couple months ago hoping for a good 12 years out of it too.
I was just in Rochester NY and a pizza restaurant there had two Bolt EVs for their delivery cars.
Nice video
Thx for FUD Fighting!
Thanks Ben! BTW jay leno has one of those classic EVs from the early 1900s
I'm glad your back bro! I mean that! When I see you holding a laugh with Elon and commenting to his post on X I'll know things are back to norm.. love you bro keep going!!🍻
I just learned that everyone in Florida can throw a football into the ocean.
Half the population, probably more, of the United States has lost the ability to think properly. How long is it going to take to correct this?