@@francisgilbert3941 I have not but see no reason why it wouldn’t fit. My only concern would be the pitch of their nozzle. I believe it to be too shallow.
@@NAK3DDesigns thanks for the fast answer. When i will receive it will be something to try on my own if nobody try it before. Hope this kickstarter will not do the same as the cr6-se.
@@NAK3DDesigns There is a design on thingiverse already that I use on my ender 3 pro and it works with the extruder that is on that printer: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3816051
0.100 : Hundred thou 0.010 : Ten thou 0.001 : One thou 0.0001 One tenth Big difference friends, if something has a +/-.0001 accuracy it's extremely accurate, but if something was only +/- .010 it wouldn't really be accurate. I just wanted to inform you guys that tenths aren't 0.010 and that tenths are 0.0001.
So, I got my CR30 recently, and had some serious issues with pla bed adhesion out of the box. With lots of effort, I believe I've finally found slicer settings that work right. When the prints don't fail, the quality is epic.
@@fefy9465 I could share my settings, but the problem is that unless you live next door to me, there's very little chance that they'll have the same effects on your model. Unfortunately, 3D printing is subject to the local environment as much as the individual differences in manufacturing. Your best option is to start with what has worked best for you so far, then making small adjustments to a single setting at a time. Each individual change can have an enormous impact on the outcome of your prints. Different problems require different changes to your slicer settings. Layer adhesion problems can be solved with a higher fan speed at 1st layer (I set mine to 10%). Problems with parts being pried off the belt can be solved either by adding a leading edge and using a raft (1mm thick is enough), or by adjusting the z-steps on your firmware (if the printer head is prying them off the belt). It also depends on what material you use. PLA would require different temps than PETG is different from ABS, etc.
I think this is a great first large-scale commercial attempt to bring this style printer to market, and it has the potential to spark a lot of new innovation. If it was economically viable at this time, I think this is certainly a kick starter that I could get behind.
See this is why I love the makers community. Where everyone help grow each other’s sub count by guiding us fans to the right content providers. Thank you guys
4:57 if one of your belts is bending the shaft on a stepper motor you have some kind of steel cable and not a rubber belt. Literally the shaft is hardened tool grade...bending that w/o serious force should be impossible.
Backed it for a two pack with my buddy. Looking forward to getting it and tinkering. Hopefully will make some advancements and post about them for the community. I think this machine is one of those inflection points where this will get better and more available from here and it is exciting to be a part of that.
If you are worried about deflection/time for that motor shaft, you could always make either a cone spacer or add a plate to support the other end of the shaft.
Naomi gave you the CR-30 in trade for reviews. Glad to see 1:14 your modification on the rollers. I took a lot of backlash when I recommended a flat surface instead of rollers. We tested the CR-30 at 200mm/s and it skipped cogs on the belt. We had to run the printer pretty slow.
On the Z belt? Or on the CoreXY belts? If it's the Z, then you can still set the print speed at 200mm/s, but just limit the Z in the firmware. The machine will only make Z transitions at the lower speed, but will have a high speed during the extrusions.
"If machines of this quality are dilivered to thousands of backers around the world..." ...there's gonna be A LOT of game and anime swords printed, lol!
The wheel fur is the wheels wearing down I had that on my ender 3 in bought in 2018. It seems mostly harmless but after awhile the wheels wore down into the V-grooves, after maybe 5k hours of printing. I think the wheels were too tight.
Cheers for the review mate. Watching the prints jump off the end with the Wilhelm Scream cracked me up. And it also made me realize how perfect the machine would be for my needs.
Hi Joel, Great review of the CR-30 printmill! I did back this Kickstarter campaign because I believe in this awesome project and supporting the ones that made this happen
BTW @Joel I think you need to up scale( hight ) the fixsomedude to print it at the 45 angle I think The nozzle has to come up on x/y to make the print look good
If you mill out a channel in the sword if possible, that runs the length of the body minus half an inch from each tip, and glue in a small metal pipe (doesn't matter if hollow or not) and glue the entire unit together you can have a more "functional" solid prop that's ready for painting. Also I have a general question regarding it. How well does it handle helmets?
Great video Joel! I was curious to learn more about the bed material and how it holds up with durability and with print adhesion. Both seem fantastic and look forward to seeing how the new material holds up!
I tried to back it. Got confused by the HK pricing in the rush to order. At the time they did not list the US $ pricing. I see now they do. I ended up pledging on just the Belt itself. By the time I realized it the lower prices pledges were all taken. Ended up cancelling the pledge I had because having just the belt wasn't what I wanted, even though I know I could reproduce the design using openbuilds and such. I still want one of the printers but now it cost just under a $1000. They says it is $688 but they are not mentioning the shipping fees which pops up when paying for it. For example. That belt that I mistakenly pledge for was like $41 US dollars. The shipping was over $100. Can't remember the exact amount off the top of my head but it was high. The shipping for the actual printer brings it to just about $1000 which is basically the finale retail price they are suggesting it will be. So you are basically buying the printer at retail price with free shipping. If it ever gets sold on Amazon, Prime Members will more than likely get free shipping anyways. So the only benefit for getting it now would be to just get it earlier. Like a year earlier. Which to many is worth it. I know I would like to have it right away For me I have two things are now stopping me from buying it. 1st is the fact that I recently got burned by a kickstarter pledge type deal. I purchased the Early Bird of the Elegoo Saturn but received a machine with one issue after another. I've had it for 4 months and have yet to print one thing with it. Currently I am waiting for a replacement control board from Elegoo. I've ended up buying my own control board from Chitu Systems which already arrive. Why they can ship this fast without issue but Elegoo take a few attempt and months at a time is beyond me since they are coming from the same area. Anyways... Hopefully today I can install it and get it working. 2nd is just being able to afford it. Like many here in the rural areas of the country we have been struggling financially. Even before the pandemic our economy sucked and we have been loosing businesses left and right. Now it's even worse with this pandemic. My spur of the moment excitement for the 3DPrintMill made me initially try to pledge for it and would have put me in debt more but I would have gone through with it. Now I look at it more cautiously. I think I'm personally better off waiting until I actually can afford it. Like I hinted I still want the CR-30 3DPrintMill but I think it's best if I just wait. Who knows. Maybe in my spare time ill design my own in Fusion360 & just go that route of building my own to save me a lot of money. But for now I'm content with waiting. 🥴
Thanks for another great and honest review! I'm a backer of the CR6 Max. Haven't got it yet. But from what I have seen it seems like most backers are actually getting good printers. And if you pay as little as you do for creality printers then you shouldn't be surprised if the quality isn't at the same level as a $3000 printer. I have read that there's a Bondtech print head for the CR30 the works. So things look promising.
Joel, Another great video many thanks. I am thinking that this may be a good addition to my mini print farm as I am very familiar with Creality components and have a particular product I manufacture (currently in 2 halves) which would suit perfectly the build dimensions this machine offers. However you mention the maximum temperature of 240°c, I print (almost exclusively PETG) with a 0.8 nozzle and then they are upholstered so visual finish isn't the number one priority. At 0.8 on my Max and CR10s Pros I run them at 245-248°c to cope with the filament flow rate, with this in mind do you think the print mill will be able to handle a 0.6 or 0.8 nozzle with PETG at 240°c without having to run at a snail's pace? It sounds like the hot end is Ender3 Style, so presumably a Micro Swiss all metal hot end will be a straight swap? Regardless it's certainly an interesting product and looks to be reasonably well priced. Thanks again, James
Got mine. No success yet. Trying to print petg using a .8mm nozzle. Filament just curls right up and sticks to the nozzle rather than the bed. Any recommendations?
Great review. We've always wanted 3D printer manufacturers to reach out to and collaborate with the community BEFORE they release a production printer. I chose not to buy one at this time (it was sooooo hard not to pull the trigger). I am supporting and watching from the sidelines as the belt printers evolve so if I do find that I need one in my arsenal it will be there.
Great video, watching that cube print was so cool! I would LOVE to own one, but cant justify the expense just so I could every sword available, which I would definitely do! lol Now to order some of that outstanding cherry red filament!
The idea is soo gooood. But my currency is 8 times less than usd. So trying to buy this machine will cost me 3 of minimum wage. I will supoort the project with designs.
I feel seen and heard after that cardboard story and the masking tape. I once just asked for duct tape for Christmas because I was making wallets and action figure terrain and what not. Awesome review and I hope to get a CR-30 one day. The Ender 5 is doing it's job but this thing is just too cool!
Thanks joe. I am Going to back it. I would like to see some sort of print like the Godzilla prints out there. From what I am staring to see is this one is getting better up front which is promising. I backed the cr6se and did have a failure on the main board but creality did get me a replacement
I think I would really enjoy this printer, but I am only 2 weeks into my first printer of a Ender 3 v 2. So I am in a pretty steep learning curve now. I do hope the campaign is successful and I have followed Naomi for a while so this is really exciting to see a creator take the next step and develope a product. For me this is just the tip of the iceberg.
How about printing a model rocket? How many size G model rocket engines can you combine into one engine mounted on the bottom of a rocket printed on this beast?
That repeat feature will be great. I am hoping for some queuing software that allows us to continue to print one thing till we need to add 1 of something else then go back to the repeat model. I hadn't had a big order in a while but this would had been great where I had an order for 20 of one part and 20 of a second. I had to keep waking up to clear my plate.
1:48 I'm accustomed to X being left/right, Y being up/down, and Z being forward/backward. I still get confused with the axes being rotated in 3D printing sometimes. 😅
thank you... finally... it just makes more sense. X & Y should be moving in 2 dimensions and Z is a 3rd dimension. If you hold a piece of paper in front of you, you can draw X & Y, but you can't draw depth so of course towards you and away from you would be depth and therefore the 3rd dimension.
of course we think like that because the medium we work in is often 2D as well, looking at a screen in front of us we have to plot out 2 dimensions X & Y, in a digital screen space the third dimension came afterwards. 3D printing is coming from an analogue time where people drew on graph paper, on desks, at 90 degree's to their body... like a cave man.
It all comes from perspective. Some 3D software use Z as height, other use Z as depth, the only difference is the default orientation, and usually this is customizable. You can understand it better if you look this way: a paper is on the table, you look at it from the top and you draw on it using the XY plane... then you step backwards to gain some perspective and use a magic to make your drawing into something, it raises from the paper, gaining a 3D form by rising on the Z axis.
Hey Joel love the videos and the reviews. I feel that Naomi has put a massive amount on time and resources into this machine, I have backed it, besides who doesn't want to print a sword in one?
Can you print multiple rows of an item? Is there a setting like a Xerox for the number of parts to print? It Would be interesting to tell it you want thirty pieces four rows wide or something like that. Maybe there would not be an advantage to that though. I was just thinking that it looks like an awful lot of unused work space if some kind of micro production is required.
Oh man. I ran into you a month or so ago outside of the UPS store there in MLT (hidey-ho neighbor!) and said hey... At the time (you may not have noticed) I was wearing my Thundercats hoodie. Now you're printing THE SWORD OF OMENS! You are my hero!!!
@@3DPrintingNerd its a plastic board that goes under the wheels of a car when you get bogged. if you google maxtrax or recovery tracks tou should see them, im curious how big it could print them
I'm hoping to be in a position by the end of the kickstarter to get one, the main selling point for me is the amount of items I normally print that because of the 45 degree angle wouldn't need support. My (Omerod 2) already has a 400mm Z axis, so the infinite length is less of a selling point, as I've rarely found I need to go beyond that, and I' never leave a printer going overnight, just in case....
1:48 Before I got into the confusion of 3D printing I would have absolutely said front to back is the Z axis. Then things got flipped. Now I have to go back to the old way of thinking.
I backed it. One my of my clients has already showed some interest in utilizing it's capabilities for a future project. If it turns out to work like it did with you it'll be a great addition.
Regarding S3D - I still prefer S3D's interface over any other slicer. It remains the most intuitive and easiest slicer for me to use since I started printing and I get great results in most cases even with the CR-6 se. I'm still cheering for them from the sidelines (an emotional favorite?). In my perfect world I would have many of the newer features of Cura but with S3D's user interface.
Yes, they makr the best slicer I have used to date. Hope they will release their updated software soon though. It's starting to get ridiculous. They could at least give us some progress updates...
Try using a new micro sd card It will fix the crashing issue Both the micro sd cards sent to me from creality were faulty. My prints kept crashing and stopping mid print. After using new micro sd cards (not from creality), I haven’t had any more crashes.
I absolutely backed it! And hearing that slicer settings specially tuned for it will be included, is great. My only regret is that it looks unlikely that the Kickstarter reaches the 5 million USD where Creality promised they'd opensource the hardware :(
We have ours so far its been a leveling night mare but sat along with our c10 v2 its just so right. Please can you show your way how to level this beast
Let's see if you or anyone here can give me a hand. I set up my Reality CR30 in my office and everything is square and I zeroed. When initially prints a line for cleaning the extruder it does it in the correct height and when ever is gonna start printing is way too hight. In the slicer everything looks ok so I have no idea what can be creating this issue.
This looks very useful for people that do small production runs for 3d printed parts, just copy the part a bunch of times and let them drop into a bucket at the end. Also time lapses are now super easy to do.
Great review, Joel! While you have the roller assembly dismantled, how feasible does it seem to change the tilt angle? Dropping to 35° might improve the leading edge quality. I wonder if those slicing oddities would improve.
“It can take the full Joel” “It is still a little wiggly” “Let’s stiffen this up a little bit” “It’s just a sword machine” Michael Scott, formerly of Dunder Mifflin Paper Company had a stroke upon seeing the end of this video.
I would like to see how print quality holds up over time as far as keeping in spec with a belt. Usually, belts & mills don't mix well due to material stretch but as long as it's not used in reciprocal motion it SHOULD hold true, appears to be a variable speed thats set in a continuous direction but leveling looks like a real pain
That's a dapper looking shirt good sir!
Love the video. Thanks again for the shout-out. FYI I’m already working on an upgrade for that stepper and a Direct Drive as well. Stay tuned!!!
Did you try or know if it is possible to put the micro swiss all metal hotend on it?
@@francisgilbert3941 I have not but see no reason why it wouldn’t fit. My only concern would be the pitch of their nozzle. I believe it to be too shallow.
@@NAK3DDesigns thanks for the fast answer. When i will receive it will be something to try on my own if nobody try it before. Hope this kickstarter will not do the same as the cr6-se.
@@francisgilbert3941 no problem, Naomi is on top of this one.. She'll make sure they keep things straight this time.
@@NAK3DDesigns There is a design on thingiverse already that I use on my ender 3 pro and it works with the extruder that is on that printer: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3816051
100.02 would be 2 hundreds off, not 2 tenths
wich is insanely accurate...
That's in the range of repeatability variance for the measuring device.
He could measure again and it come out exact or .02 low or .04 high.
*hundredths*
I agree! The only reason I checked the comments was to see if someone else had already pointed it out.
Yeah I misspoke and totally took away from the accuracy. I APOLOGIZE
0.100 : Hundred thou
0.010 : Ten thou
0.001 : One thou
0.0001 One tenth
Big difference friends, if something has a +/-.0001 accuracy it's extremely accurate, but if something was only +/- .010 it wouldn't really be accurate.
I just wanted to inform you guys that tenths aren't 0.010 and that tenths are 0.0001.
So, I got my CR30 recently, and had some serious issues with pla bed adhesion out of the box. With lots of effort, I believe I've finally found slicer settings that work right. When the prints don't fail, the quality is epic.
Hi! I just purchased this printer but still have settings problem! :( can you please share your best settings with us? Thank you
@@fefy9465 I could share my settings, but the problem is that unless you live next door to me, there's very little chance that they'll have the same effects on your model. Unfortunately, 3D printing is subject to the local environment as much as the individual differences in manufacturing. Your best option is to start with what has worked best for you so far, then making small adjustments to a single setting at a time. Each individual change can have an enormous impact on the outcome of your prints. Different problems require different changes to your slicer settings. Layer adhesion problems can be solved with a higher fan speed at 1st layer (I set mine to 10%). Problems with parts being pried off the belt can be solved either by adding a leading edge and using a raft (1mm thick is enough), or by adjusting the z-steps on your firmware (if the printer head is prying them off the belt). It also depends on what material you use. PLA would require different temps than PETG is different from ABS, etc.
I think this is a great first large-scale commercial attempt to bring this style printer to market, and it has the potential to spark a lot of new innovation. If it was economically viable at this time, I think this is certainly a kick starter that I could get behind.
Oh yeah baby always enjoy seeing a good DIY HOS
Glad to see you here. The 3d printing community is so connected
See this is why I love the makers community. Where everyone help grow each other’s sub count by guiding us fans to the right content providers. Thank you guys
* me choking on my drink. "It can easily take the FULL JOEL "
It sounds like a wrestling move =D
You could say it goes... Joels Deep
4:57 if one of your belts is bending the shaft on a stepper motor you have some kind of steel cable and not a rubber belt. Literally the shaft is hardened tool grade...bending that w/o serious force should be impossible.
I backed this kickstarter and really appreciate all that are reviewing the CR-30 so maybe I'll have an easier time using this printer when it arrives.
Yes, the new belt is working quite well (I got my pre-production one 3 days ago)
will we see a video on it?
@@claytonsmith9170 Yes, if you are fine with french reviews :)
@@PolyWorkshop I don't speak French, but could be fun to watch.
Backed it for a two pack with my buddy. Looking forward to getting it and tinkering. Hopefully will make some advancements and post about them for the community. I think this machine is one of those inflection points where this will get better and more available from here and it is exciting to be a part of that.
what about the another ifactory belt printer
If you are worried about deflection/time for that motor shaft, you could always make either a cone spacer or add a plate to support the other end of the shaft.
Naomi gave you the CR-30 in trade for reviews. Glad to see 1:14 your modification on the rollers. I took a lot of backlash when I recommended a flat surface instead of rollers. We tested the CR-30 at 200mm/s and it skipped cogs on the belt. We had to run the printer pretty slow.
On the Z belt? Or on the CoreXY belts? If it's the Z, then you can still set the print speed at 200mm/s, but just limit the Z in the firmware. The machine will only make Z transitions at the lower speed, but will have a high speed during the extrusions.
@@williamsteele CoreXY belts
"If machines of this quality are dilivered to thousands of backers around the world..."
...there's gonna be A LOT of game and anime swords printed, lol!
How does the other major Belt 3D printer on kickstarter, the iFactory One,8 compare?
The wheel fur is the wheels wearing down I had that on my ender 3 in bought in 2018. It seems mostly harmless but after awhile the wheels wore down into the V-grooves, after maybe 5k hours of printing. I think the wheels were too tight.
Great Video Joel, I didn't back it , no funds at this time. But one of these days, hopefully I'll own one. I'll repost this on my Facebook group.
Cheers for the review mate. Watching the prints jump off the end with the Wilhelm Scream cracked me up. And it also made me realize how perfect the machine would be for my needs.
Hi Joel, Great review of the CR-30 printmill! I did back this Kickstarter campaign because I believe in this awesome project and supporting the ones that made this happen
BTW @Joel I think you need to up scale( hight ) the fixsomedude to print it at the 45 angle
I think The nozzle has to come up on x/y to make the print look good
If you mill out a channel in the sword if possible, that runs the length of the body minus half an inch from each tip, and glue in a small metal pipe (doesn't matter if hollow or not) and glue the entire unit together you can have a more "functional" solid prop that's ready for painting. Also I have a general question regarding it. How well does it handle helmets?
WHAT THE HECK?! HOW DID I MISS THIS?!?!!
Thank you so much for the feature Joel!!
Hahahah, love the little RepBox lemming part commentary 😂
Good review. Seems like a fair eval to me. Cant wait to see how the final version does.
That being said, another great fair honest video Joel.
Really? I just think "pre-production machine" is a way of hiding flaws on the machine. Like Creality ever does anything with customer complaints
I've backed the CR-30 including extension bracket kit and looking forward to test it out when it arrives
Great video Joel! I was curious to learn more about the bed material and how it holds up with durability and with print adhesion. Both seem fantastic and look forward to seeing how the new material holds up!
I ordered one of these for my prop making. Im really looking forward to seeing what all it can do
@Chris ...and still no one has answered if 2 sword halves glue togheter well enough to save us from 100s of sanding hours.... :/
‘No word yet from simplify3d’
thats because their still deciding how much to charge for it
S3D: You got $700 for a new printer, you should have $100 for "new" software.
@@imbw267 , and it won’t be going to S3D’s bank account
@@stinkyham9050 the joke is that s3d hasn't released a major version for years other then some minor tweaks
I tried to back it. Got confused by the HK pricing in the rush to order. At the time they did not list the US $ pricing. I see now they do. I ended up pledging on just the Belt itself. By the time I realized it the lower prices pledges were all taken. Ended up cancelling the pledge I had because having just the belt wasn't what I wanted, even though I know I could reproduce the design using openbuilds and such. I still want one of the printers but now it cost just under a $1000. They says it is $688 but they are not mentioning the shipping fees which pops up when paying for it. For example. That belt that I mistakenly pledge for was like $41 US dollars. The shipping was over $100. Can't remember the exact amount off the top of my head but it was high. The shipping for the actual printer brings it to just about $1000 which is basically the finale retail price they are suggesting it will be. So you are basically buying the printer at retail price with free shipping. If it ever gets sold on Amazon, Prime Members will more than likely get free shipping anyways. So the only benefit for getting it now would be to just get it earlier. Like a year earlier. Which to many is worth it. I know I would like to have it right away
For me I have two things are now stopping me from buying it.
1st is the fact that I recently got burned by a kickstarter pledge type deal. I purchased the Early Bird of the Elegoo Saturn but received a machine with one issue after another. I've had it for 4 months and have yet to print one thing with it. Currently I am waiting for a replacement control board from Elegoo. I've ended up buying my own control board from Chitu Systems which already arrive. Why they can ship this fast without issue but Elegoo take a few attempt and months at a time is beyond me since they are coming from the same area. Anyways... Hopefully today I can install it and get it working.
2nd is just being able to afford it. Like many here in the rural areas of the country we have been struggling financially. Even before the pandemic our economy sucked and we have been loosing businesses left and right. Now it's even worse with this pandemic. My spur of the moment excitement for the 3DPrintMill made me initially try to pledge for it and would have put me in debt more but I would have gone through with it. Now I look at it more cautiously. I think I'm personally better off waiting until I actually can afford it. Like I hinted I still want the CR-30 3DPrintMill but I think it's best if I just wait.
Who knows. Maybe in my spare time ill design my own in Fusion360 & just go that route of building my own to save me a lot of money. But for now I'm content with waiting. 🥴
Thanks for another great and honest review!
I'm a backer of the CR6 Max. Haven't got it yet. But from what I have seen it seems like most backers are actually getting good printers. And if you pay as little as you do for creality printers then you shouldn't be surprised if the quality isn't at the same level as a $3000 printer.
I have read that there's a Bondtech print head for the CR30 the works. So things look promising.
This is a game changer for batch making 3D printing enthusiasts. I hope it comes to market as I could use one of these!
Joel, Another great video many thanks.
I am thinking that this may be a good addition to my mini print farm as I am very familiar with Creality components and have a particular product I manufacture (currently in 2 halves) which would suit perfectly the build dimensions this machine offers.
However you mention the maximum temperature of 240°c, I print (almost exclusively PETG) with a 0.8 nozzle and then they are upholstered so visual finish isn't the number one priority. At 0.8 on my Max and CR10s Pros I run them at 245-248°c to cope with the filament flow rate, with this in mind do you think the print mill will be able to handle a 0.6 or 0.8 nozzle with PETG at 240°c without having to run at a snail's pace?
It sounds like the hot end is Ender3 Style, so presumably a Micro Swiss all metal hot end will be a straight swap?
Regardless it's certainly an interesting product and looks to be reasonably well priced.
Thanks again,
James
Backed it, Received it, Love it! Everything is tight, well built, and the belt is awesome. And yes, I printed a sword as well :D
And about bed heating? How is it made in belt printers?
Got mine. No success yet. Trying to print petg using a .8mm nozzle. Filament just curls right up and sticks to the nozzle rather than the bed. Any recommendations?
Great review. We've always wanted 3D printer manufacturers to reach out to and collaborate with the community BEFORE they release a production printer. I chose not to buy one at this time (it was sooooo hard not to pull the trigger). I am supporting and watching from the sidelines as the belt printers evolve so if I do find that I need one in my arsenal it will be there.
Great video, watching that cube print was so cool! I would LOVE to own one, but cant justify the expense just so I could every sword available, which I would definitely do! lol Now to order some of that outstanding cherry red filament!
The idea is soo gooood. But my currency is 8 times less than usd. So trying to buy this machine will cost me 3 of minimum wage. I will supoort the project with designs.
*sobs in unstable economy*
@@buraksivri5639 öyle deme stabil şekilde düşüyor tl
I feel seen and heard after that cardboard story and the masking tape. I once just asked for duct tape for Christmas because I was making wallets and action figure terrain and what not.
Awesome review and I hope to get a CR-30 one day. The Ender 5 is doing it's job but this thing is just too cool!
Thanks joe. I am Going to back it. I would like to see some sort of print like the Godzilla prints out there. From what I am staring to see is this one is getting better up front which is promising. I backed the cr6se and did have a failure on the main board but creality did get me a replacement
I think I would really enjoy this printer, but I am only 2 weeks into my first printer of a Ender 3 v 2. So I am in a pretty steep learning curve now. I do hope the campaign is successful and I have followed Naomi for a while so this is really exciting to see a creator take the next step and develope a product. For me this is just the tip of the iceberg.
How about printing a model rocket? How many size G model rocket engines can you combine into one engine mounted on the bottom of a rocket printed on this beast?
I was thinking something similar... Not sure about using motors though :)
I would love to have one of these. I have two ender 3 pros that I love. I would love to see if ABS could be done at some point
That repeat feature will be great. I am hoping for some queuing software that allows us to continue to print one thing till we need to add 1 of something else then go back to the repeat model. I hadn't had a big order in a while but this would had been great where I had an order for 20 of one part and 20 of a second. I had to keep waking up to clear my plate.
Joel.... You have the feeder roller assembly on upside down. Those rollers are offset from the center of the rails. Flip the whole thing over.
Great video Joel. Definitely considering getting one of these.
Super excited, backed it weeks ago!
1:48 I'm accustomed to X being left/right, Y being up/down, and Z being forward/backward. I still get confused with the axes being rotated in 3D printing sometimes. 😅
thank you... finally... it just makes more sense. X & Y should be moving in 2 dimensions and Z is a 3rd dimension. If you hold a piece of paper in front of you, you can draw X & Y, but you can't draw depth so of course towards you and away from you would be depth and therefore the 3rd dimension.
of course we think like that because the medium we work in is often 2D as well, looking at a screen in front of us we have to plot out 2 dimensions X & Y, in a digital screen space the third dimension came afterwards. 3D printing is coming from an analogue time where people drew on graph paper, on desks, at 90 degree's to their body... like a cave man.
Think of it as a warped Z to infinity!
It all comes from perspective. Some 3D software use Z as height, other use Z as depth, the only difference is the default orientation, and usually this is customizable.
You can understand it better if you look this way: a paper is on the table, you look at it from the top and you draw on it using the XY plane... then you step backwards to gain some perspective and use a magic to make your drawing into something, it raises from the paper, gaining a 3D form by rising on the Z axis.
Hehe! I'm with you! I used to model in Maya, Softimage and Lightwave. All of those programs used Z for depth. 3D printing confused the hell out of me!
I'm really curious if you can print a plane on it and how complex that can be. 3DLabPrint vs Eclipson or similar
mine showed up the other day. Where are we with slicing?
Hey Joel love the videos and the reviews. I feel that Naomi has put a massive amount on time and resources into this machine, I have backed it, besides who doesn't want to print a sword in one?
Sean's edits really made this episode pop! He doesn't get enough credit for the sweet work he does!
Can you print multiple rows of an item? Is there a setting like a Xerox for the number of parts to print? It Would be interesting to tell it you want thirty pieces four rows wide or something like that. Maybe there would not be an advantage to that though. I was just thinking that it looks like an awful lot of unused work space if some kind of micro production is required.
No reason to, but yeah. They are working on looping a file, but more than one in a row no use because single nozzle.
@@DrewryPope I was trying to equate it to running multiples on a regular bed with a single nozzle. It can be done, but is it worth it?
Oh man. I ran into you a month or so ago outside of the UPS store there in MLT (hidey-ho neighbor!) and said hey... At the time (you may not have noticed) I was wearing my Thundercats hoodie. Now you're printing THE SWORD OF OMENS! You are my hero!!!
Was the "fur" material lost from the wheels from the friction of being over tensioned?
So I'm big in to offroadind was wondering if these could print recovery tracks
What’s a recover track?
@@3DPrintingNerd its a plastic board that goes under the wheels of a car when you get bogged. if you google maxtrax or recovery tracks tou should see them, im curious how big it could print them
Ever thinking of trying the PETG/PLA salt remelt to make the part stronger? Would love to see you try it.
"No word yet from Simplify 3D" I snort-laughed at that part :)
I had already subscribed after watching the Bobby duke video... but the use of the Grunt Birthday party sound would've earned it again. love it
Where can you download the slicer software for this printer? I cant find download links for it anywhere.
Hi Jo, I have a questions why are you calibrating E Steps not the Z steps?
I'm hoping to be in a position by the end of the kickstarter to get one, the main selling point for me is the amount of items I normally print that because of the 45 degree angle wouldn't need support. My (Omerod 2) already has a 400mm Z axis, so the infinite length is less of a selling point, as I've rarely found I need to go beyond that, and I' never leave a printer going overnight, just in case....
1:48 Before I got into the confusion of 3D printing I would have absolutely said front to back is the Z axis. Then things got flipped. Now I have to go back to the old way of thinking.
I backed it. One my of my clients has already showed some interest in utilizing it's capabilities for a future project. If it turns out to work like it did with you it'll be a great addition.
Joel says “Sword of Omen” and I quickly got my can of monster energy drink ready for hydration . HoooooooooH!!!!!
do you know what pledge i have to sign up for to get a printer?
Regarding S3D - I still prefer S3D's interface over any other slicer. It remains the most intuitive and easiest slicer for me to use since I started printing and I get great results in most cases even with the CR-6 se. I'm still cheering for them from the sidelines (an emotional favorite?). In my perfect world I would have many of the newer features of Cura but with S3D's user interface.
Agree
I thought I was the only one who is still a fan of S3D. For down and dirty STL to Gcode they are my favorite.
Yes, they makr the best slicer I have used to date. Hope they will release their updated software soon though. It's starting to get ridiculous. They could at least give us some progress updates...
What is a good slicer for this just got one and wanna find a good onr
Hey Joel, where can I get NAK 3D's profile for this printer? I'm backer 105 for this.
Another great video thank you! I'm not interested in any kick starters either will wait probably 6 months after this hits the market!
is there anyone who did a review of the latest, production model version? how is it? issues?
Try using a new micro sd card
It will fix the crashing issue
Both the micro sd cards sent to me from creality were faulty. My prints kept crashing and stopping mid print. After using new micro sd cards (not from creality), I haven’t had any more crashes.
This was a good unbias review. I look forward to seeing what the belt printers become as they are improved on.
I absolutely backed it! And hearing that slicer settings specially tuned for it will be included, is great. My only regret is that it looks unlikely that the Kickstarter reaches the 5 million USD where Creality promised they'd opensource the hardware :(
Great video, Joel!!!
How long would it take to print a beam from California to New York?
What about adding that remote direct drive system you reviewed a while ago.
Can we get the STLs for the bracket for the rollers? When the CR-30 arrives, we can print our own 🙂
Or not... Because it will be Bowed.
@@CorwinPatrick depends how is printed but lenght of bed will double the print length
We have ours so far its been a leveling night mare but sat along with our c10 v2 its just so right. Please can you show your way how to level this beast
Whats the pla printing profile he mentioned?
do we need supports if we print this 45 degrees uphill
Can introduce deflection to the shaft? You mean like every other 3D printer probably has?
Hate to do this but I'm pretty sure that's a H-Bridge belt configuration, and I do have one so I've gotten a close look
Let's see if you or anyone here can give me a hand. I set up my Reality CR30 in my office and everything is square and I zeroed. When initially prints a line for cleaning the extruder it does it in the correct height and when ever is gonna start printing is way too hight. In the slicer everything looks ok so I have no idea what can be creating this issue.
This looks very useful for people that do small production runs for 3d printed parts, just copy the part a bunch of times and let them drop into a bucket at the end. Also time lapses are now super easy to do.
Is there software if we wanna build our own?
Will it print Lithophanes?
Great review, Joel! While you have the roller assembly dismantled, how feasible does it seem to change the tilt angle? Dropping to 35° might improve the leading edge quality. I wonder if those slicing oddities would improve.
Did you ever check out idea maker for this printer?
I did at the time yes
@3DPrintingNerd do you have any videos on the topic? I'd love to watch more of your videos
Such a great channel. Thanks!
Can this printer print Flexible filament?
Where did you find the TIE Interceptor STL?
Great video Joel, I'd like to see you try printing the cammed bag clips that you printed a while ago, on this printer.
Yep I can’t wait to try this out, as a prop maker I’m so excited!
“It can take the full Joel”
“It is still a little wiggly”
“Let’s stiffen this up a little bit”
“It’s just a sword machine”
Michael Scott, formerly of Dunder Mifflin Paper Company had a stroke upon seeing the end of this video.
the infinity 3d printer
the belt needs to be able to move up and down too like in running belts.
What about lithophanes?
I would like to see how print quality holds up over time as far as keeping in spec with a belt. Usually, belts & mills don't mix well due to material stretch but as long as it's not used in reciprocal motion it SHOULD hold true, appears to be a variable speed thats set in a continuous direction but leveling looks like a real pain