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  • Thames News report from an estate in Peckham, London.
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    Quote: TN-SL-065-030.
    Thames News was the flagship regional news programme of Thames Television, serving the Thames ITV region and broadcast on weekdays from 12 September 1977 to 31 December 1992.
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  • @johnnyabsley
    @johnnyabsley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This isn't even 'Peckham Estate' as the title implies. This estate is actually called Gloucester Grove Estate which was adjacent to the North Peckham estate... this is how I remember Peckham, growing up

    • @njoyingtube1
      @njoyingtube1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      See my first flat 1981 (two kids while there ), , just before camera. Cuts to street junction showing the George public House. Smallest pub in Peckham , glad I was able to move and let my kids grow up out of the city , North peckham was wild in the. 70s I loved it ..

    • @lilpims15
      @lilpims15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correct, I was here early 80s and my parents still lives there

    • @OmarDoesTV
      @OmarDoesTV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s somner RD

    • @gga474
      @gga474 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, Sumner Road, I lived on the Sumner Estate

  • @jamied1969
    @jamied1969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Nice shallow grave being dug at 1.49

    • @David-qo4vk
      @David-qo4vk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOOOOOOOL

  • @swiftlydoesit8480
    @swiftlydoesit8480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    What I found with nearly all of these housing estates across London, was the interior of the flats were very spacious and uniquely laid out. The architects made great use of space.

    • @georgehenry9458
      @georgehenry9458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exterior looks like shit though

    • @karisno7798
      @karisno7798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes… some of them are poorly laid out too with houses/flat with two single double rooms and awkward shaped rooms that are difficult to have standard furnishings in

    • @christinepage181
      @christinepage181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The architects could have done a much better job by designing houses, until you lived on estate you don't know the horrors that you had to put up with.

    • @Chuckles2109
      @Chuckles2109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I was a Drug and crime infested 💩 hole but the flats were OK.. 😅😂😅😂

  • @fundementalroast7002
    @fundementalroast7002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    You know what, growing up there it was jokes. We didn't have much but there was a sense of community.

    • @Zlervo
      @Zlervo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That sense of community has gone down the drain now.

    • @dancheslea1820
      @dancheslea1820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      at the start of vid I lived on the left

    • @saimraja2119
      @saimraja2119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dancheslea1820why

    • @RileyFreeman_
      @RileyFreeman_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s the opposite nowadays have a decent amount but no sense of community at all

  • @PaulCross-vl9vf
    @PaulCross-vl9vf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My sincere respect to all parents who raised their children in this environment.

  • @trevorsmall7088
    @trevorsmall7088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm originally from Peckham...this is how I remember it.. Peckham front line used be on the main high street. Bouncing Ball Club was also on the main high street... Good Times and Bad. Left Peckham mid 80s moved to the Midlands much better.

  • @keithrose6931
    @keithrose6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Worked the north Peckham estate in the 80s for BT . There were people there that hadn't been on holiday as a family for years as someone always had to be there as they would have had nothing to come back to if they all went . It was a toilet !

  • @Unknown-fe6mj
    @Unknown-fe6mj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always think about this estate I wish there was cameras more widely and easily available whilst it was up. They way the media in general loved to show the Heygate/Aylesbury estates but there’s really not a lot online about the North Peckham and Gloucester grove estates. Image all the films that would have been filmed on here.

  • @jmartin4204
    @jmartin4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am from South West London but not far from Peckham , forty five minutes by train and loved going to Peckham and remember many times passing the Peckham Estate

  • @jmartin4204
    @jmartin4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    UK had the most beautiful council estates but London tops the list . Loved walking through them when visiting friends who lived there and they are so nice inside

    • @e14or14k
      @e14or14k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ...

    • @deeganhiggan-uz5dm
      @deeganhiggan-uz5dm ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a Satanist?

    • @christinepage181
      @christinepage181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was nothing beautiful about council estates, if you had ever lived in one you would have seen how awful they were.

  • @Pryzm1965
    @Pryzm1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Peckham was my home town, I have fond memories during the 70/80's it was rough at times, especially the north Peckham estate but it was generally pretty safe. As a kid and then a teen I could go pretty much anywhere with no problem day or night. I left in 1989 and moved to Bolton lol but I have to say watching videos of modern Peckham it is easy to see why people think it's a shithole. Peckham was never a posh place but you can really see the deprivation now, with graffiti and trash everywhere it looks like downtown Detroit. Depressing.

  • @smal1014
    @smal1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some nice classic cars on display ones you don't see these days!!

    • @superjohnnygamble6328
      @superjohnnygamble6328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with you, the only thing missing is the yellow Robin Reliant

    • @Cortinaman63
      @Cortinaman63 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A time when cars looked nice, were cheap and easy to repair, not the ugly uninspiring rubbish they make today, nice cars are still out there, now classics, I bought one back in 1976 which I still have 45 years on.

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lancia Fulvia @ 2.50!

  • @Ms_MalRkey
    @Ms_MalRkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I lived on Shanklin Way from 83-88....it sure was an experience. The flat was nice though!

    • @bearcat4310
      @bearcat4310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I lived on Poulner Way.

    • @gypsymickeylee
      @gypsymickeylee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I lived on shanklin way to maybe we use to know each other ?

    • @bearcat4310
      @bearcat4310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brendan Dolon I lived at no. 100

    • @northpeckhamestateoldschoo2947
      @northpeckhamestateoldschoo2947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Brendan Bod I lived at number 6 poulner way had the time of my life growing up in Peckham as a kid 🤗💯😊

  • @haydnlawrence8167
    @haydnlawrence8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 1.20-2.30 that is the Gloucester Grove estate. I used to work on all 3 in the mid 80s , Camden Estate, North Peckham Estate and Gloucester Grove Estate, all next to each other.

    • @habibajelali5736
      @habibajelali5736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey they all now belong to one area Peckham right ?

    • @theblindfoldep
      @theblindfoldep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@habibajelali5736 They were all connected by bridges so you could walk from Peckham High Street to Burgess Park on an upper level walkway without crossing a road.

    • @habibajelali5736
      @habibajelali5736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theblindfoldep ok thank you :)

  • @tanyaashby9599
    @tanyaashby9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So this is mostly Gloucester Grove Estate not Peckham Estate but anyways... we moved out of Peckham Estate when I was a Tot and over into my nans house on Elm Grove for a bit until we moved right out of London altogether. I've got loads of pictures of inside the flat on the Estate, not too many memories unfortunately, Just everyone was auntie/uncle and one particular lady (nanny finkern?) who gave me polos or 20p if I called her a f**king old bag! I was maybe 3 or 4 years old, to give you an idea of what it was like on the estate.
    I used to love Peckham, my uncle had an army surplus store in the indoor market off Rye Lane (he called himself crazy Trev, and to be fair he was a bit nuts) I used to love jumping the train on a Friday to go and see him but would die of embarrassment having to ask for 'crazy Trev' lol.
    The market traders used to park on my nans drive and all paid tribute when she died. Peckham used to be an amazing place but like all places its changed, I stopped going when my nan and uncle died.

  • @kavinrobert5806
    @kavinrobert5806 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THE NORTH PECKHAM ESTATE. It was a nightmare. Streets in the sky. They built the slums of the late 20th century.

  • @dreadknight
    @dreadknight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was the street route to school, to Gloucester grove primary the other route was across 4 different estates never touching road until the schoolgate

  • @Catty19748
    @Catty19748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Where's Del boy?

    • @this_is_a_tiny_town
      @this_is_a_tiny_town 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For some reason, I read that in my mind in Grandad's voice lol

  • @Cheeseatingjunlista
    @Cheeseatingjunlista 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The North Peckham, nasty, nasty place - had a g/f from there, she wouldn't got out after 7, too scared, mini cabs stopped going after two drivers robbed and killed, Cator St, seen on the film, just a few yard yards from where 10 year old Damilola Taylor was murdered. Mostly been demolished and replaced with smaller, less oppressive blocks, and the dangerous sticksman filled corridors and passages destroyed

    • @thornbird6768
      @thornbird6768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      RIP Damilola ♥️

    • @thetruthwillsetyoufree7167
      @thetruthwillsetyoufree7167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      RIP daminola they name a youth club after him on east Surrey grove next to Cator street

    • @Zlervo
      @Zlervo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      RIP Damilola

  • @thomaslarkin9791
    @thomaslarkin9791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BURGESS PARK OY.YOY BUTTERFLY WALK ...

  • @oneohfive6584
    @oneohfive6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Says a lot that only one bus took you from the Gloucester out of Peckham, the 63.

  • @lenafan492
    @lenafan492 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    ♪ ♫ stick a pony in me pocket ♫ ♪

  • @reebul8768
    @reebul8768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used to live there up until i was a toddler. Its improved massively over the years, but i'm ngl its still dangerous to walk through that estate. I wouldn't recommend if your not familiar with the layout.

    • @reebul8768
      @reebul8768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mike R A lot has been demolished and re-done but there is still a bit of it left.

    • @reebul8768
      @reebul8768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mike R The outsides of the estate are ok during the day time but a bit dodgy at night. Whereas the part of the estate next to the damilola taylor centre is always dangerous regardless of the time lool.

    • @kloxman86
      @kloxman86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reebul8768 you must be talking about Bells garden estate which is also known as yellow brick next to Peckham library as well I've been past there a few times and it rather does look unfriendly from the outside

  • @Whatwhat1235
    @Whatwhat1235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it looks better then than it does now

  • @esssexboy
    @esssexboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God knows have much a 1 bedroom flat there would cost today? I remember when Peckham used to be cheap as chips

    • @loloinhd
      @loloinhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was looking at house prices in the area the other day. Two bed flats on Queens Road Peckham now go for £500-600k

    • @Unknown-fe6mj
      @Unknown-fe6mj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m read something that at the time like 70% of housing was public

  • @mikeysting3635
    @mikeysting3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They used to call that estate skag city back in the 80s 😂

  • @elgamerico
    @elgamerico 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nelson Mandela House looks a bit different in real life :)

    • @michaelturner4457
      @michaelturner4457 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Nelson Mandela House" was actually in Bristol, not Peckham. :)

    • @elgamerico
      @elgamerico 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but it was in Acton before that.

    • @enskeez6815
      @enskeez6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelturner4457 there’s a. House called Nelson Mandela in the UK?

    • @Zlervo
      @Zlervo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆😆😆

    • @joanwilliamsroberts3900
      @joanwilliamsroberts3900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was call Winnie Mandela House.

  • @kkdiazz
    @kkdiazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the area just bad or were the housing conditions bad too did the council not help

    • @Unknown-fe6mj
      @Unknown-fe6mj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both, they built the estates with majority black people in a time where it was harder for them to be employed and also often concentrated the area problem tenants. It’s was managed decline for the council. Now there reaping the benefits as housing became so cheap rich middle class came and bought housing for profits and more tax.

    • @oneohfive6584
      @oneohfive6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s was multiple issues. Being able to stay on the second floor in the blocks from St. George’s Way to Peckham High street (through the North Peckham and Camden estates) was a big issue. Drug addiction, high unemployment, some very violent families.
      Cross Burgess Park and you were into the Aylesbury & Haygate with all the same issues. Basically, from Elephant & Castle to Peckham High Street was linked walk ways sinkhole estates
      The Gloucester had one bus out of Peckham, you got the feeling you were not meant to leave, ever.
      Violence, murder, robbery, rape and drugs were just part of life. I think many of us suffered PTSD from living there.
      It’s called Peck’Narm for a reason, it was like a war zone.

  • @u7617
    @u7617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one ever went inside north peckham estate that was from North peckham, not even ppl from Peckham would go in there out of fear.

  • @Chuckles2109
    @Chuckles2109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought a lotta gear of that Estate what a mistake that and Aylesbury Estate was.

  • @i.c.e.7555
    @i.c.e.7555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did they knock it down

    • @oneohfive6584
      @oneohfive6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some still standing.
      Link to a recent video:
      th-cam.com/video/wqEbQVieqlI/w-d-xo.html

  • @glenmorejohn8494
    @glenmorejohn8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What wrong with north peckham estate

  • @redpilltrill948
    @redpilltrill948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    foundation

  • @blackstarnow3714
    @blackstarnow3714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pecknarm!

  • @MastersGraduate2023
    @MastersGraduate2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:14 man who runs out of no where off the grass then jumps to stand there like JASON the serial killer. OOOOOoooo

  • @shaunpmarshall
    @shaunpmarshall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I'm from this area of south London. ..this estate used to be a serious no go area....still a lot of crime there

    • @kkdiazz
      @kkdiazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s been knocked down now because of the poor state and the families were rehoused

  • @andrewandreas32
    @andrewandreas32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The survival days great days 🤣

  • @petercross3984
    @petercross3984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some homies digging a grave at 1:49

  • @gbyrne
    @gbyrne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Peck has always beenj a dodgy manor.

    • @jneal21
      @jneal21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gentrification ting coming in now tho

  • @TinTaBraSS777
    @TinTaBraSS777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    англия старая добрая )

  • @vindicator2011
    @vindicator2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...grim

  • @WheelieMacBin
    @WheelieMacBin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived on this estate until 1979. It became an absolute shit hole. It has been demolished now.

    • @theblindfoldep
      @theblindfoldep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not all of it was demolished. About two-thirds gone and the rest of the blocks were refurbished and are still standing in 2021.

  • @deeganhiggan-uz5dm
    @deeganhiggan-uz5dm ปีที่แล้ว

    Nowhere looks as bad as Yorkshire

  • @chunkybuster7203
    @chunkybuster7203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Knock all the lovely terrace houses down, kick out the indigenous people, put in the 'Windrush generation, what possibly could go wrong?

    • @liberalmind8680
      @liberalmind8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Windrush generation helped re-build post war Britain. That's what I was taught. Is that wrong ?

    • @jamesstone9091
      @jamesstone9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@liberalmind8680 yes you muppet

    • @liberalmind8680
      @liberalmind8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamesstone9091 How is it wrong ?

    • @liberalmind8680
      @liberalmind8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesstone9091 Yes

    • @jamesstone9091
      @jamesstone9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liberalmind8680 any of them drug dealers/criminals/in a gang ?