in black, you can protect your commander with "boomerang" effects like Malakir Rebirth. If your commander dies, it returns immediatly, there are 10 instants that do this, 6 of wich are 1 mana
1 mana instant protection spells for commanders are such an underrated class of cards! I started playing them in all of my decks so much that my friends make fun of me lol
@@E.F.W. Here's the list of 1 mana cards with such effects (there are 7 technically. One is keyworded) Ashnod's intervention Feign Death Malakir Rebirth (best in class) Not dead after all Supernatural stamina Undying Malice Undying evil (the worst one, but still solid). On top of that: Armor of Shadows Professor's warning Black protection spells have the downside of not protecting against targeted exile effects, which green and white can protect from easily, but it's still very potent. And most can double up as aristocrat fodder
A lot of removal is exile sadly so these haven’t been as consistent as other colors. In mono black I use Malakir rebirth for it but in multi color I just avoid using them as protection all together
For me, this is an interesting case study in how different play groups can vastly change how decks are played/built. I also had a mono black devotion deck with yahenni as commander and wasn’t having much success with the deck, but then I made the exact opposite switch to Braids as the commander and the deck performed WAY better. Gave me a good giggle knowing we made opposite changes to very similar decks in order to improve them in our own play groups. 😂
I just built a Yahenni deck and it is a lot of fun! Much less aristocrats-focused than yours because I didn’t want another generic black sacrifice deck. Very unique and cool card/deck!
I did the same thing, I changed my Ayara devotion deck to Vogar, Necropolis Tyrant Voltron/Sacrifice. I prefer him to Yaheeni because even if they remove him, the card draw puts you so much ahead that you probably win anyway. Also he is such an outsider, only something around 300 decks on EDH, give that guy some love 🖤
ugh i really hate how my playgroup convinced me into not playing force edict anymore. its because of channels like "the command zone" that have this huge hate towards sacrifce decks that guys in my group picked up on. "oh it slows the game to a crawl, and its way too controlling and staxy", meanwhile these guys play free counterspells and ghostly prison pillowfort effects. i think imma hit my playgroup with this deck cause i have all the pieces for it and it sounds really fun and efficient to do.
It isn’t even edicts, it’s explicitly grace pact. Grave pact has always sucked to play against tbh, but fleshbag effects have always been fair game it’s just removal
Sounds like your play group needs to play against people outside the group and learn about other magic strategies. If you get too locked in to what you’re comfortable with, you become resistant to adapting to new strategies from you opponents and end up bitching that you can’t beat them. Not you or them specifically, just anyone in general
Since the card was spoiled I wanted to run The Necrobloom, it’s a fun landfall card that can do a lot. But my biggest problem is that necrobloom does not have blue which has some of the best Synergies with landfall. My solution? Find a commander with all of the colors I wanted and build the entire deck around the theme with necrobloom as my secret commander. It made my deck feel so much more fun to play and honestly made the deck more consistent overall.
This deck is awesome by the sounds of it. It REALLY remind me of my relationship with Bane, Lord of Darkness. I really want to make this commander work but much like your devotion deck, I didn’t want to just sit around. I wanted to utilize cards like Fleshbag Marauder and Queza, Auger of Agonies but in truth it didn’t do much until you stumbled upon one of the combos I put in. Then win on the spot. So boring but without a big monster like Yahenni to rely on, to get the same effect I would have to change the whole decks strategy. Maybe I’ll go with token producers, doublers, and anthems? Anyways very interesting video!
Black is likley the most versatile. It just takes a bit of time to learn Black's way of doing things. Imp's Mischief can be used against counterspell... but Black's answer to counterspells is usually proactive like discard such as Thoughtseize or Duress or you use things like Cavern of Souls. Otherwise, there are revive cards like Undying Malice, Feign Death, Undying Evil, etc. To get right of enchantments, you need to use cards like sacrifice nonland permanent cards. Few cards are like feed the swarm. You need to realize and change how you look at things when playing black.
Hey I got a question, how would I better utilise my first and only commander deck, it is a Ghalta and Mavren midrange aggro big stompy dinosaur tribal. Any tips on how I could better define my strategy. Btw recently found this show, it is awesome to watch keep up the good work : D
Yeah i have to build this too now, also i would love if you could update your tana//ishai list or tell me what would you Swap dockside with ty and great vid as always man
So far my pod still plays with the banned cards because we are so used to playing them. I have been testing both battle hymm and jeskas will in its place!
He is a bit slower than yahenni but Ob Nixilis Unshackled is really fun too. Gets big like Yahenni but trades off protection for tutor hate which is fun.
I have a really similar story with my mono black deck, but I use Sarevok+Cultist of Absolute Background, added some more cards for drain and life manipulation combo, a lot of edict effects, but mostly its still classic mono black pile. That’s busted)
I maybe missunderstood what you wanted to do but didnt you aim for this to be your new high powered deck? If so, why not include Daughti Voidwalker, Opposition Agent, Orkish Bowmasters, Deadly Rollick, The One Ring, Demonic Tutor, Vampic Tutor, Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Toxic Deluge, Grim Hireling? What is also pretty confusing is why you run such a low amount of ramp/rocks. I dont get why you left out Ashnods and Phyrexian Altar aswell as Reassembling Skeleton, Pawn of Ulamog and Bloodsoaked Champion. This opens up so many infinite combos for you. Right know this list doesnt look anything like high power but more like a super fair casual list.
@@Cerebrosum If you play with strangers and tell them you want to play high power and then play this deck, you are not going to have a good time and neither do they. Everyone wants to have a game on the same level and this is just not going to provide what is needed to compete at high power. This deck is totally fine as a super casual deck where everybody plays super casual decks but this is a completly different setting.
@@avall0nNn1992 We play in wholly different environments then. A reference point issue But more than that, what you wrote down is pretty much an entire deck unto itself. There *has* to be other ways to play at reasonable power without homogenizing everything surely
@@Cerebrosum I agree that it can be a reference point issue and I am glad you pointed it out. I am certain you can build this commander in other ways and still compete in high power, I just wanted to give some input and thoughts on the deckbuilding from a perspective of someone who mostly plays high power and cEDH. Obvious combos and some super strong cards are just an idea. High power also gives birth to some decks that are absolutely not obvious. Right now I am building a Pantlaza flicker deck with only two other dinos instead of building a tribal deck like the majority of players.
@@avall0nNn1992 Thank you for your response. I think you're right and that it's about perspective how to build for high power. It really is a world of difference in commander between power and truly powerful. And as you point out, even in the upper echelons there is room to break how people expect a commander to be built and novel ways to use cards. I've certainly never thought of a combo-y cEDH Pantlaza deck before! That sounds sweet Lastly I do apologize for my initial very curt comment. Definitely woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
also, how wasnt your "i draw 3 cards each turn extremly consistently, from turn 3, or maybe even turn 2, onwards" commander a powerhouse from the get go? also, i think tutoring for Gary every time isnt really something i wouldnt call "boring". He such an easy include auto win in black, its even more boring than Craterhoof. Powerful, but monstrously boring
you underestimate black protection. a "Until end of turn, target creature gains “When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner’s control" type effect together with a sacrifice outlet is able to doge everything exept a boardexile effect. its probaly not the best fit for your deck, but black has the most effiecient single target creature protection in my opinion.
@@deckdriverMTGyeah you got imp’s mischief and that’s it tbh, if you squint really hard Malakir rebirth effects can do it in a pinch but not for yahenni
in black, you can protect your commander with "boomerang" effects like Malakir Rebirth. If your commander dies, it returns immediatly, there are 10 instants that do this, 6 of wich are 1 mana
May I see this list? 👀
I am in need lmao
1 mana instant protection spells for commanders are such an underrated class of cards! I started playing them in all of my decks so much that my friends make fun of me lol
@@E.F.W.
Here's the list of 1 mana cards with such effects (there are 7 technically. One is keyworded)
Ashnod's intervention
Feign Death
Malakir Rebirth (best in class)
Not dead after all
Supernatural stamina
Undying Malice
Undying evil (the worst one, but still solid).
On top of that:
Armor of Shadows
Professor's warning
Black protection spells have the downside of not protecting against targeted exile effects, which green and white can protect from easily, but it's still very potent. And most can double up as aristocrat fodder
A lot of removal is exile sadly so these haven’t been as consistent as other colors. In mono black I use Malakir rebirth for it but in multi color I just avoid using them as protection all together
I made a full list of reasonable black protection spells and posted it on this video... The comment got hidden for some reason.
"Force interaction on good cards in order to protect the great ones." -Sun Tzu
I remember when he said that in his book!
Mid-Week post! Gonna reach 10k very soon! I want to thank everyone for all the support!
Be on the lookout for another video this Saturday!
For me, this is an interesting case study in how different play groups can vastly change how decks are played/built. I also had a mono black devotion deck with yahenni as commander and wasn’t having much success with the deck, but then I made the exact opposite switch to Braids as the commander and the deck performed WAY better. Gave me a good giggle knowing we made opposite changes to very similar decks in order to improve them in our own play groups. 😂
I just built a Yahenni deck and it is a lot of fun! Much less aristocrats-focused than yours because I didn’t want another generic black sacrifice deck. Very unique and cool card/deck!
I like the idea of monoblack tempo !
I have a Dr who esper deck with vislor as a companion and he's really here to eat the removal
Care to share the list? i make lots of who decks and some more inspo for vislor would be great
I knew the phoenix would pop up in this mono-black video, you are The Otharri Guy after all 😂🍻
I did the same thing, I changed my Ayara devotion deck to Vogar, Necropolis Tyrant Voltron/Sacrifice. I prefer him to Yaheeni because even if they remove him, the card draw puts you so much ahead that you probably win anyway. Also he is such an outsider, only something around 300 decks on EDH, give that guy some love 🖤
Yooooo he looks so cool! Honestly because he is so similar I might use him every once and awhile as a back up if I get bored!
Same, but I use Sarevok+Cultist of the Absolute)
@@Aksilyrat That sounds cool! I always wanted to build Sarevok, but I never thought of this mono black pairing. Do you have a decklist?
@@AksilyratWilson is also really sick
yahenni was always one of my favorite cards, got it on the first pack I opened
ugh i really hate how my playgroup convinced me into not playing force edict anymore. its because of channels like "the command zone" that have this huge hate towards sacrifce decks that guys in my group picked up on. "oh it slows the game to a crawl, and its way too controlling and staxy", meanwhile these guys play free counterspells and ghostly prison pillowfort effects.
i think imma hit my playgroup with this deck cause i have all the pieces for it and it sounds really fun and efficient to do.
It isn’t even edicts, it’s explicitly grace pact. Grave pact has always sucked to play against tbh, but fleshbag effects have always been fair game it’s just removal
Sounds like your play group needs to play against people outside the group and learn about other magic strategies. If you get too locked in to what you’re comfortable with, you become resistant to adapting to new strategies from you opponents and end up bitching that you can’t beat them. Not you or them specifically, just anyone in general
I built the original Deck myself with some minor tweaks, and I enjoy it a lot. For my playgroup, it's a perfect fit in powerlevel
Since the card was spoiled I wanted to run The Necrobloom, it’s a fun landfall card that can do a lot. But my biggest problem is that necrobloom does not have blue which has some of the best Synergies with landfall. My solution? Find a commander with all of the colors I wanted and build the entire deck around the theme with necrobloom as my secret commander. It made my deck feel so much more fun to play and honestly made the deck more consistent overall.
Such a good George Washington quote. I was there when he made it. Inspiring.
Truly ahead of his time
This deck is awesome by the sounds of it. It REALLY remind me of my relationship with Bane, Lord of Darkness. I really want to make this commander work but much like your devotion deck, I didn’t want to just sit around. I wanted to utilize cards like Fleshbag Marauder and Queza, Auger of Agonies but in truth it didn’t do much until you stumbled upon one of the combos I put in. Then win on the spot. So boring but without a big monster like Yahenni to rely on, to get the same effect I would have to change the whole decks strategy. Maybe I’ll go with token producers, doublers, and anthems? Anyways very interesting video!
This exact thing happens to me when I build a deck "because I can" instead of "because I want the deck". Know what I mean?
Yes! I build alot of decks I "like" but not many that I truly LOVE and choose to build in person!
Black is likley the most versatile. It just takes a bit of time to learn Black's way of doing things. Imp's Mischief can be used against counterspell... but Black's answer to counterspells is usually proactive like discard such as Thoughtseize or Duress or you use things like Cavern of Souls. Otherwise, there are revive cards like Undying Malice, Feign Death, Undying Evil, etc. To get right of enchantments, you need to use cards like sacrifice nonland permanent cards. Few cards are like feed the swarm. You need to realize and change how you look at things when playing black.
I went the Toshiro Umezawa route after debating either Yahenni or Gonti, Lord of Luxury
watched nyx lotus in mono black put in work last night in some games..
This deck needs a seance board.
Hey I got a question, how would I better utilise my first and only commander deck, it is a Ghalta and Mavren midrange aggro big stompy dinosaur tribal. Any tips on how I could better define my strategy. Btw recently found this show, it is awesome to watch keep up the good work : D
Yeah i have to build this too now, also i would love if you could update your tana//ishai list or tell me what would you Swap dockside with ty and great vid as always man
So far my pod still plays with the banned cards because we are so used to playing them. I have been testing both battle hymm and jeskas will in its place!
@@deckdriverMTG thats rlly cool thx man!
Just build a Yahenni deck too :D Great timing
He is a bit slower than yahenni but Ob Nixilis Unshackled is really fun too. Gets big like Yahenni but trades off protection for tutor hate which is fun.
I have a really similar story with my mono black deck, but I use Sarevok+Cultist of Absolute Background, added some more cards for drain and life manipulation combo, a lot of edict effects, but mostly its still classic mono black pile. That’s busted)
Would korlash, the blackblade not also work with what you needed from your mono black commander?
It absolutely would! I've never seen that card before!
@@deckdriverMTG built in protection. Scales on swamps so even after a farewell board wipe he will still be big.
Yahenni seems like green-less ygra, still like him tho
Why not lifeline ?
No Cabal Coffers or Nykthos in the deck? I suppose you don't have to...
Should be added. I don't currently own the cards but they will be in there!
When you stop playing torment and play helldozer.
I beg of you, please increase the volume on your videos. I've been having such a hard time watching your videos due to the low volume
Will do! I was surprised the audio came out so quiet
I maybe missunderstood what you wanted to do but didnt you aim for this to be your new high powered deck? If so, why not include Daughti Voidwalker, Opposition Agent, Orkish Bowmasters, Deadly Rollick, The One Ring, Demonic Tutor, Vampic Tutor, Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Toxic Deluge, Grim Hireling?
What is also pretty confusing is why you run such a low amount of ramp/rocks.
I dont get why you left out Ashnods and Phyrexian Altar aswell as Reassembling Skeleton, Pawn of Ulamog and Bloodsoaked Champion. This opens up so many infinite combos for you.
Right know this list doesnt look anything like high power but more like a super fair casual list.
Ah so just make the deck as cookiecutter as possible?
@@Cerebrosum If you play with strangers and tell them you want to play high power and then play this deck, you are not going to have a good time and neither do they. Everyone wants to have a game on the same level and this is just not going to provide what is needed to compete at high power. This deck is totally fine as a super casual deck where everybody plays super casual decks but this is a completly different setting.
@@avall0nNn1992 We play in wholly different environments then.
A reference point issue
But more than that, what you wrote down is pretty much an entire deck unto itself. There *has* to be other ways to play at reasonable power without homogenizing everything surely
@@Cerebrosum I agree that it can be a reference point issue and I am glad you pointed it out.
I am certain you can build this commander in other ways and still compete in high power, I just wanted to give some input and thoughts on the deckbuilding from a perspective of someone who mostly plays high power and cEDH. Obvious combos and some super strong cards are just an idea.
High power also gives birth to some decks that are absolutely not obvious. Right now I am building a Pantlaza flicker deck with only two other dinos instead of building a tribal deck like the majority of players.
@@avall0nNn1992 Thank you for your response. I think you're right and that it's about perspective how to build for high power. It really is a world of difference in commander between power and truly powerful.
And as you point out, even in the upper echelons there is room to break how people expect a commander to be built and novel ways to use cards. I've certainly never thought of a combo-y cEDH Pantlaza deck before! That sounds sweet
Lastly I do apologize for my initial very curt comment. Definitely woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
also, how wasnt your "i draw 3 cards each turn extremly consistently, from turn 3, or maybe even turn 2, onwards" commander a powerhouse from the get go?
also, i think tutoring for Gary every time isnt really something i wouldnt call "boring". He such an easy include auto win in black, its even more boring than Craterhoof. Powerful, but monstrously boring
you underestimate black protection. a "Until end of turn, target creature gains “When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner’s control" type effect together with a sacrifice outlet is able to doge everything exept a boardexile effect. its probaly not the best fit for your deck, but black has the most effiecient single target creature protection in my opinion.
C'mon, there are several cards in black that can protect.
Not nearly as much as white tho
you can a lot and at instant speed too, all for 1-2 cmc
Why protect when you can just raise it from the grave mwahaha
@@deckdriverMTGyeah you got imp’s mischief and that’s it tbh, if you squint really hard Malakir rebirth effects can do it in a pinch but not for yahenni
@@brendans1983 protection is better for yahenni because you want to build up his counters to keep him a threat
man say k'rrik wronger dude.
Thats just straight up not what tempo means ib magic lol
Not related to deck, but all aetherborn pronouns are they/them - aetherborn don't have gender.
Just btw, Yahenni is a "she" not a "he"
*they