Was just there yesterday (august 2021) and I can vouch for at least the blue singletracks maturing into harder trails. Definitely more chunder than when we rode them in 2020. The green trails, which were awfully beat up with brake bumps last year after only a couple of weeks after opening, were in much better shape and smoother this time around. Last year, we actually rode the blue trails because they were ultimately smoother and easier to ride than the greens! This year, the greens were proper greens with only mild brake bumps and the blues have definitely gotten harder and chunkier. We stayed on the greens this year.
Realign was a fun trail. Hucking rollers out to flat for days. It was the last trail we rode... took us all day to find it but it was so fun some of us did it twice. Also there’s something new going in out past the CDM crossing and the park boundary sign just above T2T.
great review. Sad that I couldn't have been there in person! Most reviews I've watched have focused on what it ISN'T which is a real shame. At least you have the proper outlook on what it IS and why it's IMPORTANT. This is the kind of thing that gets overlooked so often in our instant gratification culture. Maybe I'll go up there one night this week after work.
As a beginner-intermediate (riding for only one year so far), I much prefer it to Skibowl, which - with the exception of one good blue and one not so great blue - is way too steep and gnarly. The dirt isn't as nice as that of Sandy Ridge or Post Canyon, but being able to make 8-9 runs in a day compensates for a lot. Sometimes things don't fully click until your third run of the day, and if you have to climb to descend, your third run might be your last run of the day.
How does this compare to stubb Stewart? Did lokis lollipop last time I was there and really enjoyed that. The timberline park looks extremely mellow, looking for things at a level of stub Stewart or better
If Loki's is in the middle of your skill level, you'll like all the blue trails at T-Line and the blacks will be possible but may require a few dismounts.
I could not agree more! I am an intermediate rider and had soooooo much fun. I don't think the statement that it "doesn't flow well." is entirely accurate. If you prefer the hardcore lines and gnar at Skibowl then you might be disappointed. However, the trails are very well designed have exceptional flow for beginner to intermediate riders. My biggest surprise was how fun Gravy Train was for complete beginner trail.
Thanks for what is the most positive description and outlook for the trails at Timberline. I'll fully admit that I had high expectations and was let down by what opened this year, but as you said the whole concept of a bike park was a very sensitive topic. Having a soft opening is probably a better option than going full A-Line from day one.
I'm a native Oregonian who now lives in New England. The contrast between here and there is amazing. First, in New England you have almost none of the same review processes and oversight groups as the Northwest. Granted, that's not entirely true with bike parks, of which there are a few reviews, but for the most part builders just follow the laws, and put trails in, in most open, public land. It helps if you let land managers know, or NEMBA, but a lot of builders just head into the woods, and build, and most locals don't mind or care, unless the riders are jerks. Amazing, huh? But there's also no mountains in New England, just endless hills, tight, intricate woods (not forest), and lots and lots of rocks and roots over old, beaten down trails that are almost impossible to get flow on.
Cool review. The bike park doesn't flow well. Skibowl is way better. (Right now) but I have heard a double diamond jump line next year in the works, so I have high hopes...
Gravy Train is much easier. I wouldn't hesitate to take any beginner who can balance on a bike down Gravy Train. It's an awesome beginner trail. You do not need a ticket to ride T2T.
Was just there yesterday (august 2021) and I can vouch for at least the blue singletracks maturing into harder trails. Definitely more chunder than when we rode them in 2020. The green trails, which were awfully beat up with brake bumps last year after only a couple of weeks after opening, were in much better shape and smoother this time around. Last year, we actually rode the blue trails because they were ultimately smoother and easier to ride than the greens! This year, the greens were proper greens with only mild brake bumps and the blues have definitely gotten harder and chunkier. We stayed on the greens this year.
Realign was a fun trail. Hucking rollers out to flat for days. It was the last trail we rode... took us all day to find it but it was so fun some of us did it twice. Also there’s something new going in out past the CDM crossing and the park boundary sign just above T2T.
My first ever time riding was at timberline and it is the perfect place to learn
It warms my heart to read this. This is exactly what I want to see.
great review. Sad that I couldn't have been there in person! Most reviews I've watched have focused on what it ISN'T which is a real shame. At least you have the proper outlook on what it IS and why it's IMPORTANT. This is the kind of thing that gets overlooked so often in our instant gratification culture. Maybe I'll go up there one night this week after work.
When I was up there last weekend the guy scanning at the top of the hill said Camino got it's name because the trail builders were from Michoacan.
Great job man- very enjoyable and informative. You have a new sub! Nice work
Thanks!
I really enjoy your videos. I just got back into mt biking this summer, and it's great to watch and see what to expect before I get there. Keep it up!
As a beginner-intermediate (riding for only one year so far), I much prefer it to Skibowl, which - with the exception of one good blue and one not so great blue - is way too steep and gnarly.
The dirt isn't as nice as that of Sandy Ridge or Post Canyon, but being able to make 8-9 runs in a day compensates for a lot. Sometimes things don't fully click until your third run of the day, and if you have to climb to descend, your third run might be your last run of the day.
This. So much this. This is exactly why we need this park here.
How does this compare to stubb Stewart? Did lokis lollipop last time I was there and really enjoyed that. The timberline park looks extremely mellow, looking for things at a level of stub Stewart or better
If Loki's is in the middle of your skill level, you'll like all the blue trails at T-Line and the blacks will be possible but may require a few dismounts.
I could not agree more! I am an intermediate rider and had soooooo much fun. I don't think the statement that it "doesn't flow well." is entirely accurate. If you prefer the hardcore lines and gnar at Skibowl then you might be disappointed. However, the trails are very well designed have exceptional flow for beginner to intermediate riders. My biggest surprise was how fun Gravy Train was for complete beginner trail.
Thanks for what is the most positive description and outlook for the trails at Timberline. I'll fully admit that I had high expectations and was let down by what opened this year, but as you said the whole concept of a bike park was a very sensitive topic. Having a soft opening is probably a better option than going full A-Line from day one.
Word. And they can ramp things up in the future if there's enough public support and it can be done sustainably.
Very well said! I have hopes Timberline will evolve into what Stevens Pass is today.
timberline to govt camp was a great trail, v enjoyable
I'm a native Oregonian who now lives in New England. The contrast between here and there is amazing. First, in New England you have almost none of the same review processes and oversight groups as the Northwest. Granted, that's not entirely true with bike parks, of which there are a few reviews, but for the most part builders just follow the laws, and put trails in, in most open, public land. It helps if you let land managers know, or NEMBA, but a lot of builders just head into the woods, and build, and most locals don't mind or care, unless the riders are jerks. Amazing, huh?
But there's also no mountains in New England, just endless hills, tight, intricate woods (not forest), and lots and lots of rocks and roots over old, beaten down trails that are almost impossible to get flow on.
Oregon to New England Oooof 😢
@@mconti564 I'm back in Oregon! 😀
Cool review. The bike park doesn't flow well. Skibowl is way better. (Right now) but I have heard a double diamond jump line next year in the works, so I have high hopes...
But Gravy Train is a trail at Duthie!
Oh, that's funny. Didn't realize that...
Yeah, the two aren’t even comparable.
How does Gravy Train compare to Timberline to Town. Also, can you ride T2T without buying a ticket?
Gravy Train is much easier. I wouldn't hesitate to take any beginner who can balance on a bike down Gravy Train. It's an awesome beginner trail. You do not need a ticket to ride T2T.
yes but can you scratch glass with it
Spot On!
Is the skills area any good?
Not yet. They're working on it, though.