My only disagreement with Olaf would be regarding his comment about violin quality/price. First, completely understand that Olaf is a violin maker and this is his livelihood. Second, he's been doing this a long time and loves his career, so of course he would prefer if every beginner had a really nice instrument. I however grew up dirt poor and have a couple different takes. 1. Rent or borrow if you can. I know my teacher had a spare violin, so students could at least practice on a decent instrument if they needed to.. and her brother is a luthier that not only sold, but had rent-to-buy violins for more serious students that couldn't drop a couple grand right away. If you want to try out violin and this is the only route available for you to get to use a good instrument, go for it. 2. While it would be great to purchase a beginner violin that was made in a shop like Olaf's, a cheap violin that can hold a tune is better than no violin. In this economy, don't spend money you can't afford until you know it's something you're going to stick with it.. I spent quite a bit of money on just a cheap beginner instrument and then a few months later I had to put it down for well over a year due to work changes. 3. don't spend what you can't afford, seriously. Whether it's $150 or $15,000... buyer's remorse is a real thing. If you couldn't afford to simply toss the instrument in the bin a week later, don't waste your cash.
The quality & sound factor is subjective like comparison of pianos. A beginner wouldn't be able to tell between ones with a good and not so good quality and sound. I've come across violins with tuning pegs that are very tight and hard to turn when tuning and some with pegs that are very loose. After tuning the strings the pegs would quickly unwind. Paying more money is no guarantee of a better sound. Some people prefer a warmer sound while others like a brighter sound.
Olaf, found you from TwoSet because I wanted to play violin. Your videos gave me confidence to buy some trash instruments to practice on. A month ago I found a late 1800s violin for $100 on Ebay, moldy and missing parts. I took it apart, cleaned it with warm water and set it in the indirect sun for a week. I polished, fit new pegs, cut a new nut, and carved a bridge while sitting next to you on YT. It's beautiful. It sounds beautiful -- like some of the very expensive instruments I tried in a local shop, moreover it plays better. I can't put it down. I am so happy. I am now a violinist with a wonderful instrument that I could afford thanks to you. I can't say thanks enough.
"My dad is a GERMAN master violin maker..." I knew it! I don't know why, but the way how you talk and look always made me wonder if you might have german ancestors. Greetings from Germany, and thank you for having the patience to help beginners out :)
Olaf was born in Germany and migrated to Australia with his family in his teens. He's often talked about his background in his videos, and he goes back to Europe now and then for visits.
i’ve been a cellist for 10 years and i’m just picking up the viola- thanks, olaf! this helps a lot, there’s a bunch i didn’t know that i probably should.
I started playing the violin months ago, and you videos are very important for me. Even If i'm only playing it, understanding the anatomy of a violin is deeply important for me since it's a instrument with a soul and is an extension of me and my emotions.
"You can't learn violin in one hour" Very true. Heck, I've been playing for almost 11 years and I'm still learning new things constantly. The learning doesn't stop after Twinkle variations 😃
I hit about 1000 balls a day playing pool and after 7.5 years, i just barely hit semipro level, and thats with natural talent and the right habits. No way violin is mastered in a week lol
These are excellent tips that can apply to learning just about any instrument. I think the most important ones are to start with a good, well-functioning instrument and a teacher who understands beginners. If you try to start learning an instrument without either of these things, you'll be setting yourself up for frustration and failure. I know there are good self-taught musicians, but it's a really hard way to begin. Even just a few lessons with a good teacher are better than none.
I'd like to add something that applies to more than just learning violin. If you're making mistakes and you recognize that you make mistakes, that's great. That means you already have some understanding about the errors you're making and you have a general clue when they will be fixed. It would be much worse if you played bad and you didn't know that you play bad because you'd reinforce the bad parts. So don't treat mistakes as a failure, treat them as steps towards success.
I agree! I'd also like to add, if you do make a mistake, play it over and over again (at least it has worked for me) so you'll have more knowledge on what NOT to do so that said mistake isn't as prominent and frequent
Great advice!! I played so many years ago as a youngster and your videos (along with TwoSet) have inspired me to get back into it again. The violin is such an expressive and capable instrument, so many voices and tones can come from it, it's almost like a chameleon, it can change, but when you master it, you flow into the instrument as the instrument flows into you. I firmly believe that playing is like an exchange of ideas, the expressions speak of the story you want to tell, and the instrument likewise tells it's story back to you (the player) and the listener alike. Another wonderful video Olaf, thank you!
You're making this video at the perfect moment for me, because at the end of this month, I'm starting to learn not violin but viola. I'm really looking forward to that - thank you for making a quick and accessible video to remind me what's important to keep in mind when learning a string instrument.
As I said in my comment (above) I have recently written notes on tips for outright beginners, much of which I've picked up from Brett & Eddy (TwoSet Violin), Olaf (here) and my tutor and a lot I've learned myself. Simple things such as remembering to loosen your bow when you've finished playing; how to store your violin/viola esp if you live in a hot or humid climate and even, not leaving your instrument in the boot of a car on a hot day... Wouldn't have thought of that one! Good luck on your musical journey... It's super challenging but immensely rewarding. I've been playing (aka struggling) for 18 months but some aspects are easier now...
for beginners they should probably use cheaper ones- once they believe they can go to professional violins that’s where they could buy more expensive ones
I think his point was get the best you can afford but avoid the really cheap ones. A £130 guitar will sound and play fine, but a £160 violin would be a very cheap example
I appreciate your tips olaf. I've been practicing and brushing up on my violin skills. I've been building up muscle for the Lower register of the instrument. Lately I've been taking tension relief breaks. For background, I was born with a condition similar to muscular distorphy, so any strain feels way more intense than "normal".
Good tips there. Over here in the UK it isn't difficult to find old student violins of a reasonable standard, like the Maidstone or indeed what I have which is a Medio Finno (by JTL) both from lathe 19th to early 20th century. Around the £300 mark. Good set of strings and clean off the bow of excess rosin and we are good to go.
Thank you Olaf, I can't explain how thankful I am about your videos. Bought my first violin by following your recommendations and now I'm almost 2 years having lessons! I started late but I'm having so much fun and I love finally finding my musical side. Thank you!!!
Oh! I was already find a teacher for violin recently, than I watched this video! Thank you for these tips. I am looking forward to the first violin lesson!
Thank you for the tips and advices for starting to play the violin. As someone who now really enjoys music in all variations, it's still a room for growth. Built up tension is very easy to be unnoticed that you can't have fun playing anymore. Have all the patience and persistence practicers. You can do it!
Thank you so very much for your teaching and inspiration. I'm just starting this wonderful journey. I'm having a great time playing for myself at 69 years young. You have inspired me to buy a kit and build it for myself. What a special and wonderful thing this pursuit is! Thank you dearly, from Texas USA.
What you mention about the quality of the Violin also goes for any other instrument, as well as early practice sessions. I doubt I could ever learn to play the Violin (my hearing was ruined when I was in the US Navy, as a Jet Engine Mechanic, and, later on, in the US Army, as a Communications Officer). I do, however, play the Saxophone & Clarinet and can hear well enough to play in a local Community Band. Even though I do not play any stringed instrument, I truly enjoy your videos and learning new things! Thank You, Olaf, for what you do!!!
Thank you, Olaf, and it is after watching you many times repairing and making new stuff that has inspired me to become an amateur lutier. I play the Viola.
Well, one or two I hadn't really thought of such as the importance of posture but there is SO much more to take into account and understand before you begin... I tell newbie violinists about my 4 P's: PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, PASSION & PRACTICE. If any of these fall short, you'll struggle imo, and it's challenging enough as it is. You did touch on the 'it takes time' aspect. It will take me decades! After 18 months, I'm still on 1st position and vibrato not even on the horizon! Thanks for the vid, Olaf. Excellent advice.
Just stumbled upon your channel, and it is fantastic! Loving your videos. Learning so much about the violin, and how it all fits together. I’m one of those who bought a really cheap VSO, paid around 800 Norwegian kroner (around 114 aud). I just started playing with a teacher, and said to myself that if I can follow through until may, I would buy a better one. Gonna spend around 710-840 aud depending on my paycheque.
I've always thought the violin was a beautiful instrument, and looked like fun. I'm happy to take my time learning because of all the advice from everyone I follow. I'm only about 2 months in, but it's really enjoyable!
I’d love to see more professionals promoting (quality) instrument rentals as a budget alternative to buying a good instrument. A lot of folks buy the $100 violin because they literally cannot afford anything more; that $100 may even be a financial stretch. But they could manage $25 a month for a rental, which is what my local fine instrument store rents their beginner violins for. The advice to spend several hundred dollars on a violin or it’s not worth the learner’s time could be so discouraging for people from lower income situations, they might not ever start. Otherwise, great info presented here as always, Olaf! Thanks for sharing your expansive knowledge and experience with us in your many interesting videos, I always look forward to them. :)
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker My mom rented my sister’s violin from her teacher, actually! Decades ago now of course. It was more convenient too, saved a trip in to the Big City. Renting is also a great option for when kids are growing and going through the scaled-size instruments.
Thank you for these points, Olaf. I think that it is essential to add that renting an instrument from a reputable violin-maker might be better than purchasing any instrument outright. The benefits of rental include affordability to a good beginner level instrument that is well set-up, on-going maintenance, string replacement and repair, ability to switch instruments and get exposure to more variety, and - building a relationship with a violin-maker. It is a low-risk, low-cost and high-value option for beginners. If you find after a while that it is not for you - you return the instrument. If you love it, a portion of your rental fees goes towards purchase. And, IMO only after playing a couple of years or more one. is an a position to assess sound quality preferences in the instrument and bow. (all this is relevant to the US, I hope also other countries) Finally, if one can afford it - finding a teacher is also detrimental. Love your work, Olaf, Thank You 🙏
Hello Olaf! Great video as always! Would love to see you do some content about how to do some basic stuff on your violin at home such as string changes, pasting or oiling pegs, checking if your bridge is straight etc. would be super cool
That's what I said, 2 years ago... but TwoSet Violin got me 'thinking' otherwise... especially when I started listening to the stuff they played and fell in love with this instrument... So my 'no intention' turned into 'go for it.' No regrets whatsoever... but be warned, it could happen to you...
Before we can play some of the pieces we enjoy, we have to learn basic techniques and start with easy songs like "Likely Row" and "Mary Had a Little Lamb". Once we can learn to play a few notes, we can play more challenging pieces. If we're not able to get over the first hurdle of playing easy pieces, no progress. Putting in more time to practice generally leads to progress. We also need to be aware of the results that we are trying to achieve. If we play the wrong note 10x, playing the same note the 11th time is not going to come out correct. Suppose some of the notes are out of tune, a teacher or someone else can make you aware of it.
Hi Olaf, I love your Piere Lomont Master violin! I have signed up several times to get the "Seven things" document, but for some reason I fail to get it. I don't know what should happen after I sign up for it, but nothing seems to happen, and I do not get an email about it, so I have no clue. I watch yuor channel because you teach a LOT and the joy in your work makes it fun to watch. I am trying to learn all I can about the violin because I believe that a comprehensive understanding of the instrument will help me to be a better violin player.
Good points. I started leaning the violin with private lessons, and I am on Suzuki book 7. However, I cannot get the grasp of vibrato and have been trying for a couple of years. I am told that I have a beautiful tone, but vibrato eludes me!
Ooooh, this is going to be interesting... I recently wrote a whole essay... with a view to making a vid... about things they don't tell you before taking up the violin and as well as things which may be obvious to a teacher or violinist because they've forgotten what it's like to start from scratch, knowing little or nothing.
Hello is 340$ violin good? Im new in violin, i love the sound of the violin it sound so relaxing in the ears. I researched where should i start first or should work on first anyway thanks for the advice hope i dont stop playing because i easily give up. ❤❤
Greetings from Ukraine. Thanks for such a wise instructions! I would love to have any of the violins you've made. I believe and dreaming I'll be able to just buy the one.. Kindest regards...
I don't really play violin, although I do have some familiarity with mandolin, which is pretty much a "guitar version" of violin, so I can find my way around on a violin. My difficulty with violin is that I seem to have a lot of trouble using the bow correctly, although I have admittedly only made a few sporadic attempts.
I'm teaching myself the viola, for fun, and what bogged me down at the very start was the chinrest and shoulder rest combo. I finally sorted that out with a center mount chinrest and a tilted shoulder rest and I could get on with actually practicing. Maybe it's not such a big deal with a violin?
What is your opinion of Karl Knilling violins? I recently was given one as a gift and it says it was made in Germany.. I'm very new to the violin at the age of 49 and I'm trying to learn everything I can. Thank you very much.
thank you! ive just started my highschool string music class, and ive been trying to decide between bass, cello, violin, and viola.. if anyone has advice or tips for any of these lmk!
Just bought a 180 euro electric violin. I play guitar and keyboard for 40 years. Always wanted to play violin too (I'm a Jean Luc Ponty and live on a boat, an acoustic will be to loud) The Violin is pretty crappy, thanks to your videos I was able to set it up better. Spend a day trying to hold it without discomfort. Are alternate tunings used on Violins ? Thinking about tuning it like the 4 highest strings of a guitar. I only improvise on my guitar (blues, fusion, jazz), I want to do that on the violin too, the same tuning would make that more easy. The violin in general is so old, except from an electric one, they still all look alike, is there no demand for something more modern ? More comfort, tuners like on a guitar instead of these miserable pegs, wider neck, a cutaway etc. Or am I now doomed and hunted forever by the ghosts of ancient violin builders, by asking this ? 🙂 I know a much more expensive instrument will sound and play better like my Martin, Fender and Musicmann guitars, they are top-grade and I love them.
If it's US$, you could look at my Piere Lomont violin. There are string players all around the world playing the Piere Lomont and absolutely love their beautiful sound and ease of playing.
To find out, you have to measure the inches of your neck to the hand at the middle of your palm in inches, if you get 23 inches then you should get the 4/4, 22 inches is 3/4, 20 inches is 1/2, 18.5 inches is 1/4, and yeah you can search it on google.
I bought a violin from a music instrument shop for 800$, next week starting my first lesson, While waiting I tried to play but it is mute, is it normal? 😮 thanks
Mr. Olaf can u plz clear my doubt? I'm gonna buy a violin so I don't have any knowledge about violin cause I'm a rapper,singer, love to become violinist too 😅but it makes my heart feel pure and get peace so I'm about to learn so can u tell the basics that I need to learn? I can't afford a teacher for this so from what basics should I start I have no idea how to play it I only know how to hold it 😂so pls help me I hope u reply plz it's my dream goal 🙏🥺I wanna learn it
Im 15 and Lindsey Stirling is my inspiration, ive really wanted to learn how to play one of her songs called "Take flight" which was used in a Terraria mod
Hi. A dumb question maby but does it matter if a cello has a expensive or cheap tailpiece? How can you tell if the tailpiece is a high-end tailpiece? On my cello I can't tell if the tailpiece is of good quality or not, it weights heavy though.
I like the Wittner ultralight because it doesn't add too much weight to the bottom of the strings. There are some cheaper tailpieces that are better than others, so price doesn't always matter.
I'm comment 70 also I wanted a violin for like 3 years now just never had the money to get one and recently I did get the money and Im going to order one I'm just looking so before it gets here I'll at least know we're to start !
That's exciting! All the best on your violin journey... I wrote a report on things to look out for when buying an instrument. It's a good idea to read, so you can buy with confidence
You also lost me when you told me to spend that much on the instrument when I’m not even sure I can do it. Because you didn’t even encourage me to start playing in the first place 😢I just bought a violin for the first time and I’m already regretting it 😰
@@ReaperGrimm absolutely not! I have clients who started at 70! If you have big goals, it's just good to get a teacher with a great posture. That way you have a good foundation
Orvil Gibson made the mandolin more like a violin. Unfortunately he only did one thing wrong. The people who had been playing classical music would have loved his mandolins, however when he increased the scale length to that of a violin he inadvertantly raised all of the string tensions three pounds. Most instruments become easier to play as they evolve. So while the violin design was etched in stone, the mandolin has yet to mature. Talk about tension those players hated the increased tension.
I do not agree with starting with an expensive violin. It is by no means important. I just think it adds extra barriers to entry. Buy a decent student violin in the couple hundred dollar range, and see if this is truly something you want to do first. If you play for 6 months consistently, and you’re still loving every minute of it. Then consider spending more, but it is by no means necessary. It will take you a long time to make any violin sound even half decent, and yes whilst it might be slightly easier on a more expensive violin, there is no significant difference when you are a beginner player in my opinion.
I'm suggesting to get the best possible instrument to help you progress and have an enjoyable journey. Don't let budget stop you from starting, but if you have the means, start with a descent instrument that sounds good and is well set up. I fully understand that $2k is a lot of money for some but quite manageable for others... I also understand that people from all over the world are watching my channel and that there are lots of different economies... So just go for it with the best you can afford. 🎻 ❤️
@@TYFE_AE yeah, don't do that, but just get the best you can for a budget you can afford... Don't let budget stop you from playing violin, but you just have to be really careful that the violin is well set up and at least has descent strings. There is a link to my 7 essentials report to help guide you in finding a good instrument within your budget. 🎻 Have fun on your journey
@@Mr.Grave_ it just depends. As I said in the video... It's about starting, so if that's too much, buy something cheaper, just be careful not to buy a VSO (violin shaped object) which makes it almost impossible to learn. I also understand that there's lots of different currency values
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker Yes you are right, i gotta start somewhere. i really appreciate you making this video it`s so helpful and i have learned a lot by just watching you. Thank you Mr Olaf.
$1'200. Or $1'500. Is the right amount if anyone else got that kinda money these days but if anyone really want to learn you would spend that much save up of work hard to get there
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker So far, I've come across (almost) 300 who have said as much in the comments section... There are doubtless hundreds more out there and it's not limited to violin; they've inspired people to take up many other instruments or pick up where they left off. I met one chap in my home town... guy in his 40's... who played the violin at school but came across their channel and was inspired to try again... though he said it was like starting over... but, the thing is, he's now playing in an orchestra. Stories like this are so heartening and to meet another TwoSetter... Yay.
Timing is Everything, thank you Olaf! I just started my Violin Journey and your channel has been a wonderful inspiration.
My only disagreement with Olaf would be regarding his comment about violin quality/price. First, completely understand that Olaf is a violin maker and this is his livelihood. Second, he's been doing this a long time and loves his career, so of course he would prefer if every beginner had a really nice instrument. I however grew up dirt poor and have a couple different takes.
1. Rent or borrow if you can. I know my teacher had a spare violin, so students could at least practice on a decent instrument if they needed to.. and her brother is a luthier that not only sold, but had rent-to-buy violins for more serious students that couldn't drop a couple grand right away. If you want to try out violin and this is the only route available for you to get to use a good instrument, go for it.
2. While it would be great to purchase a beginner violin that was made in a shop like Olaf's, a cheap violin that can hold a tune is better than no violin. In this economy, don't spend money you can't afford until you know it's something you're going to stick with it.. I spent quite a bit of money on just a cheap beginner instrument and then a few months later I had to put it down for well over a year due to work changes.
3. don't spend what you can't afford, seriously. Whether it's $150 or $15,000... buyer's remorse is a real thing. If you couldn't afford to simply toss the instrument in the bin a week later, don't waste your cash.
The quality & sound factor is subjective like comparison of pianos. A beginner wouldn't be able to tell between ones with a good and not so good quality and sound. I've come across violins with tuning pegs that are very tight and hard to turn when tuning and some with pegs that are very loose. After tuning the strings the pegs would quickly unwind. Paying more money is no guarantee of a better sound. Some people prefer a warmer sound while others like a brighter sound.
The three P's - Play, Practice, and Persist. Good video!
Nah, 4! Mine are: Patience, Perseverance, Passion and Practice!
and enjoy it
Olaf, found you from TwoSet because I wanted to play violin. Your videos gave me confidence to buy some trash instruments to practice on. A month ago I found a late 1800s violin for $100 on Ebay, moldy and missing parts. I took it apart, cleaned it with warm water and set it in the indirect sun for a week. I polished, fit new pegs, cut a new nut, and carved a bridge while sitting next to you on YT.
It's beautiful. It sounds beautiful -- like some of the very expensive instruments I tried in a local shop, moreover it plays better. I can't put it down. I am so happy.
I am now a violinist with a wonderful instrument that I could afford thanks to you. I can't say thanks enough.
Thank you Olaf. And thank you for being kind to my daughter Katie who visited you. She said you were very gracious.
Hi John!
It was great meeting her!
Hope things are going well for you.
Thank you for your Inside. Im 43 and just starting out. Your experience means a lot. Deep warm hugs ❤️🫶🏼
"My dad is a GERMAN master violin maker..." I knew it! I don't know why, but the way how you talk and look always made me wonder if you might have german ancestors. Greetings from Germany, and thank you for having the patience to help beginners out :)
Olaf was born in Germany and migrated to Australia with his family in his teens. He's often talked about his background in his videos, and he goes back to Europe now and then for visits.
i’ve been a cellist for 10 years and i’m just picking up the viola- thanks, olaf! this helps a lot, there’s a bunch i didn’t know that i probably should.
I started playing the violin months ago, and you videos are very important for me. Even If i'm only playing it, understanding the anatomy of a violin is deeply important for me since it's a instrument with a soul and is an extension of me and my emotions.
"You can't learn violin in one hour"
Very true. Heck, I've been playing for almost 11 years and I'm still learning new things constantly. The learning doesn't stop after Twinkle variations 😃
Exactly!
Great to hear that you are persisting...
There's a video out there claiming "Learn to play violin in 1 hour"
I'm so tempted to review
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker Lol that reminds me of SimplyPiano claiming that people can "learn piano in 3 weeks" or whatever 😂
I hit about 1000 balls a day playing pool and after 7.5 years, i just barely hit semipro level, and thats with natural talent and the right habits. No way violin is mastered in a week lol
These are excellent tips that can apply to learning just about any instrument. I think the most important ones are to start with a good, well-functioning instrument and a teacher who understands beginners. If you try to start learning an instrument without either of these things, you'll be setting yourself up for frustration and failure. I know there are good self-taught musicians, but it's a really hard way to begin. Even just a few lessons with a good teacher are better than none.
I'd like to add something that applies to more than just learning violin. If you're making mistakes and you recognize that you make mistakes, that's great. That means you already have some understanding about the errors you're making and you have a general clue when they will be fixed. It would be much worse if you played bad and you didn't know that you play bad because you'd reinforce the bad parts. So don't treat mistakes as a failure, treat them as steps towards success.
Practice slowly , don't make mistakes in the first place ❤
I agree! I'd also like to add, if you do make a mistake, play it over and over again (at least it has worked for me) so you'll have more knowledge on what NOT to do so that said mistake isn't as prominent and frequent
@@gregsanford3848that’s literally impossible for beginners.
Great advice!! I played so many years ago as a youngster and your videos (along with TwoSet) have inspired me to get back into it again. The violin is such an expressive and capable instrument, so many voices and tones can come from it, it's almost like a chameleon, it can change, but when you master it, you flow into the instrument as the instrument flows into you. I firmly believe that playing is like an exchange of ideas, the expressions speak of the story you want to tell, and the instrument likewise tells it's story back to you (the player) and the listener alike. Another wonderful video Olaf, thank you!
You're making this video at the perfect moment for me, because at the end of this month, I'm starting to learn not violin but viola. I'm really looking forward to that - thank you for making a quick and accessible video to remind me what's important to keep in mind when learning a string instrument.
I play viola too. I use the Suzuki method.
As I said in my comment (above) I have recently written notes on tips for outright beginners, much of which I've picked up from Brett & Eddy (TwoSet Violin), Olaf (here) and my tutor and a lot I've learned myself. Simple things such as remembering to loosen your bow when you've finished playing; how to store your violin/viola esp if you live in a hot or humid climate and even, not leaving your instrument in the boot of a car on a hot day... Wouldn't have thought of that one! Good luck on your musical journey... It's super challenging but immensely rewarding. I've been playing (aka struggling) for 18 months but some aspects are easier now...
You lost me when you advised beginners to spend $2000 to $3000 on an instrument.
Yeah, bro saw that and ran straight to the comments.
@@bope5706 Gatekeeping of the highest order.
for beginners they should probably use cheaper ones-
once they believe they can go to professional violins that’s where they could buy more expensive ones
I think his point was get the best you can afford but avoid the really cheap ones. A £130 guitar will sound and play fine, but a £160 violin would be a very cheap example
saw that and came to comment directly 😅
I appreciate your tips olaf. I've been practicing and brushing up on my violin skills. I've been building up muscle for the Lower register of the instrument. Lately I've been taking tension relief breaks. For background, I was born with a condition similar to muscular distorphy, so any strain feels way more intense than "normal".
Good tips there. Over here in the UK it isn't difficult to find old student violins of a reasonable standard, like the Maidstone or indeed what I have which is a Medio Finno (by JTL) both from lathe 19th to early 20th century. Around the £300 mark. Good set of strings and clean off the bow of excess rosin and we are good to go.
$3,000 for an instrument you know almost nothing about is like learning how to drive using a Lamborghini.
Thank you Olaf, I can't explain how thankful I am about your videos. Bought my first violin by following your recommendations and now I'm almost 2 years having lessons! I started late but I'm having so much fun and I love finally finding my musical side. Thank you!!!
I don’t know why my left hand sometimes grips the violin like a vise. It’s very difficult to play that way. That was good advice. Love your channel
Watch your videos all the way here in Louisiana ! I’m a guitar player but have the upmost respect for the violin. Cheers!
Oh! I was already find a teacher for violin recently, than I watched this video! Thank you for these tips. I am looking forward to the first violin lesson!
Thank you for the tips and advices for starting to play the violin. As someone who now really enjoys music in all variations, it's still a room for growth. Built up tension is very easy to be unnoticed that you can't have fun playing anymore. Have all the patience and persistence practicers. You can do it!
Thank you so very much for your teaching and inspiration. I'm just starting this wonderful journey. I'm having a great time playing for myself at 69 years young. You have inspired me to buy a kit and build it for myself. What a special and wonderful thing this pursuit is! Thank you dearly, from Texas USA.
Love the varnish on that Piere Lomont.
What you mention about the quality of the Violin also goes for any other instrument, as well as early practice sessions. I doubt I could ever learn to play the Violin (my hearing was ruined when I was in the US Navy, as a Jet Engine Mechanic, and, later on, in the US Army, as a Communications Officer). I do, however, play the Saxophone & Clarinet and can hear well enough to play in a local Community Band.
Even though I do not play any stringed instrument, I truly enjoy your videos and learning new things! Thank You, Olaf, for what you do!!!
Thank you for the Great video!! What you played sounded Awesome and all the violins in your shop look Amazing!
Thank you, Olaf, and it is after watching you many times repairing and making new stuff that has inspired me to become an amateur lutier. I play the Viola.
This is so helpful as I had my first lesson today! Thanks so much! I look forward to future videos!
Thank you for your inside. Im 13 and just starting out your experience meqns lot. Deep warm hugs❤❤❤
thank you
Thank you for the encouragement.
I really enjoy your videos! You have such a wealth of knowledge and experience!
I started playing the violin around 6 or 7 months ago. Your videos are really helpful for me, so thank you! :)
Well, one or two I hadn't really thought of such as the importance of posture but there is SO much more to take into account and understand before you begin... I tell newbie violinists about my 4 P's: PATIENCE, PERSEVERANCE, PASSION & PRACTICE. If any of these fall short, you'll struggle imo, and it's challenging enough as it is. You did touch on the 'it takes time' aspect. It will take me decades! After 18 months, I'm still on 1st position and vibrato not even on the horizon! Thanks for the vid, Olaf. Excellent advice.
Thanks you Maestro Olaf! I've been wanting to save money to use an antique violin as my first actual violin!
Just stumbled upon your channel, and it is fantastic! Loving your videos. Learning so much about the violin, and how it all fits together.
I’m one of those who bought a really cheap VSO, paid around 800 Norwegian kroner (around 114 aud). I just started playing with a teacher, and said to myself that if I can follow through until may, I would buy a better one.
Gonna spend around 710-840 aud depending on my paycheque.
Great to hear Waldemar!
It's a really rewarding journey ✨️
Have fun
I've always thought the violin was a beautiful instrument, and looked like fun. I'm happy to take my time learning because of all the advice from everyone I follow. I'm only about 2 months in, but it's really enjoyable!
I’d love to see more professionals promoting (quality) instrument rentals as a budget alternative to buying a good instrument. A lot of folks buy the $100 violin because they literally cannot afford anything more; that $100 may even be a financial stretch. But they could manage $25 a month for a rental, which is what my local fine instrument store rents their beginner violins for. The advice to spend several hundred dollars on a violin or it’s not worth the learner’s time could be so discouraging for people from lower income situations, they might not ever start.
Otherwise, great info presented here as always, Olaf! Thanks for sharing your expansive knowledge and experience with us in your many interesting videos, I always look forward to them. :)
That's a great idea.
Some teachers could also make an extra profit by renting out descent instruments.
String teachers are often not that well paid
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker My mom rented my sister’s violin from her teacher, actually! Decades ago now of course. It was more convenient too, saved a trip in to the Big City. Renting is also a great option for when kids are growing and going through the scaled-size instruments.
Thank you for these points, Olaf. I think that it is essential to add that renting an instrument from a reputable violin-maker might be better than purchasing any instrument outright. The benefits of rental include affordability to a good beginner level instrument that is well set-up, on-going maintenance, string replacement and repair, ability to switch instruments and get exposure to more variety, and - building a relationship with a violin-maker. It is a low-risk, low-cost and high-value option for beginners. If you find after a while that it is not for you - you return the instrument. If you love it, a portion of your rental fees goes towards purchase. And, IMO only after playing a couple of years or more one. is an a position to assess sound quality preferences in the instrument and bow. (all this is relevant to the US, I hope also other countries) Finally, if one can afford it - finding a teacher is also detrimental. Love your work, Olaf, Thank You 🙏
Hello Olaf! Great video as always! Would love to see you do some content about how to do some basic stuff on your violin at home such as string changes, pasting or oiling pegs, checking if your bridge is straight etc. would be super cool
Hi Michael,
I did a couple of videos on both in the past...
You should be able to find them if you do a TH-cam search and add Olaf to the search 😀
Wouldn't be a great Olaf video without those CRAZY crickets... ;)
Gotta love Australia in summer ☀️ 😄
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I have no intention to learn playing the violin, and yet, this is super interesting to know. Is it just me? 😅
That's what I said, 2 years ago... but TwoSet Violin got me 'thinking' otherwise... especially when I started listening to the stuff they played and fell in love with this instrument... So my 'no intention' turned into 'go for it.' No regrets whatsoever... but be warned, it could happen to you...
Before we can play some of the pieces we enjoy, we have to learn basic techniques and start with easy songs like "Likely Row" and "Mary Had a Little Lamb". Once we can learn to play a few notes, we can play more challenging pieces. If we're not able to get over the first hurdle of playing easy pieces, no progress.
Putting in more time to practice generally leads to progress. We also need to be aware of the results that we are trying to achieve. If we play the wrong note 10x, playing the same note the 11th time is not going to come out correct. Suppose some of the notes are out of tune, a teacher or someone else can make you aware of it.
Hi Olaf, I love your Piere Lomont Master violin!
I have signed up several times to get the "Seven things" document, but for some reason I fail to get it.
I don't know what should happen after I sign up for it, but nothing seems to happen, and I do not get an email about it, so I have no clue.
I watch yuor channel because you teach a LOT and the joy in your work makes it fun to watch.
I am trying to learn all I can about the violin because I believe that a comprehensive understanding of the instrument will help me to be a better violin player.
Good points. I started leaning the violin with private lessons, and I am on Suzuki book 7. However, I cannot get the grasp of vibrato and have been trying for a couple of years. I am told that I have a beautiful tone, but vibrato eludes me!
Ooooh, this is going to be interesting... I recently wrote a whole essay... with a view to making a vid... about things they don't tell you before taking up the violin and as well as things which may be obvious to a teacher or violinist because they've forgotten what it's like to start from scratch, knowing little or nothing.
Hello is 340$ violin good? Im new in violin, i love the sound of the violin it sound so relaxing in the ears. I researched where should i start first or should work on first anyway thanks for the advice hope i dont stop playing because i easily give up. ❤❤
What violin should I buy? I’ve never played violin or even learn music
Greetings from Ukraine.
Thanks for such a wise instructions!
I would love to have any of the violins you've made.
I believe and dreaming I'll be able to just buy the one..
Kindest regards...
FYI, 2800 AUD is around 1850 USD. :) Great video!
Thanks for that... it always changes...
Definitely a good exchange rate if you are in the US 🙂
What is the best size to get? I play Acoustic and classical guitar and very used to the larger space between the strings.
I don't really play violin, although I do have some familiarity with mandolin, which is pretty much a "guitar version" of violin, so I can find my way around on a violin.
My difficulty with violin is that I seem to have a lot of trouble using the bow correctly, although I have admittedly only made a few sporadic attempts.
How can I tell if my violin is alright? I found my great grand father's violin in the attic and I want to start learning how to play it.
"You just wanna learn that one piece..." I see what you did there sir :D
I'm teaching myself the viola, for fun, and what bogged me down at the very start was the chinrest and shoulder rest combo. I finally sorted that out with a center mount chinrest and a tilted shoulder rest and I could get on with actually practicing. Maybe it's not such a big deal with a violin?
True... that's an important one...
It has to allow you to have a natural posture
What is your opinion of Karl Knilling violins? I recently was given one as a gift and it says it was made in Germany.. I'm very new to the violin at the age of 49 and I'm trying to learn everything I can. Thank you very much.
thank you! ive just started my highschool string music class, and ive been trying to decide between bass, cello, violin, and viola.. if anyone has advice or tips for any of these lmk!
Just bought a 180 euro electric violin. I play guitar and keyboard for 40 years. Always wanted to play violin too (I'm a Jean Luc Ponty and live on a boat, an acoustic will be to loud) The Violin is pretty crappy, thanks to your videos I was able to set it up better. Spend a day trying to hold it without discomfort. Are alternate tunings used on Violins ? Thinking about tuning it like the 4 highest strings of a guitar. I only improvise on my guitar (blues, fusion, jazz), I want to do that on the violin too, the same tuning would make that more easy.
The violin in general is so old, except from an electric one, they still all look alike, is there no demand for something more modern ? More comfort, tuners like on a guitar instead of these miserable pegs, wider neck, a cutaway etc. Or am I now doomed and hunted forever by the ghosts of ancient violin builders, by asking this ? 🙂 I know a much more expensive instrument will sound and play better like my Martin, Fender and Musicmann guitars, they are top-grade and I love them.
I'm a guitar player...does a violin have any correlation with the chords???
any suggested violins for me to buy with 1-1,5k $? I dont know anything about violins and im afraid i cant keep it safe and keep it playable myself
If it's US$, you could look at my Piere Lomont violin.
There are string players all around the world playing the Piere Lomont and absolutely love their beautiful sound and ease of playing.
Im glad i can rent one for cheap from my school, its good and they cover broken strings
I play the bass and I want to try using a violin bow on a bass guitar but what carries over for playing a bass guitar with a violin bow?
The smile in the thumbnail is priceless
Hey I’m 4’11” and my mom wants to gift me a violin. Am i good for 4/4??
To find out, you have to measure the inches of your neck to the hand at the middle of your palm in inches, if you get 23 inches then you should get the 4/4, 22 inches is 3/4, 20 inches is 1/2, 18.5 inches is 1/4, and yeah you can search it on google.
I bought a violin from a music instrument shop for 800$, next week starting my first lesson,
While waiting I tried to play but it is mute, is it normal? 😮 thanks
Fun fact. I was your 69,420 subscriber.
Sweet
Is there a way to begin/practice when you live with neighbours behind a thin wall?
@@Jan-l8p8o yes!
Use a heavy practise mute...
You can also practise when your neighbours aren't home
Is it okay to buy one for around 1000-1500$?
Mr. Olaf can u plz clear my doubt? I'm gonna buy a violin so I don't have any knowledge about violin cause I'm a rapper,singer, love to become violinist too 😅but it makes my heart feel pure and get peace so I'm about to learn so can u tell the basics that I need to learn? I can't afford a teacher for this so from what basics should I start I have no idea how to play it I only know how to hold it 😂so pls help me I hope u reply plz it's my dream goal 🙏🥺I wanna learn it
I want to learn to play because Sherlock Holmes plays it, and when i was a kid i wanted to be Holmes
how to play on the right shoulder? I can't play on my left shoulder
Im 15 and Lindsey Stirling is my inspiration, ive really wanted to learn how to play one of her songs called "Take flight" which was used in a Terraria mod
Is it worth learning to play the violin at the age of 40 and having purchased a violin for around $500?
Hi. A dumb question maby but does it matter if a cello has a expensive or cheap tailpiece? How can you tell if the tailpiece is a high-end tailpiece?
On my cello I can't tell if the tailpiece is of good quality or not, it weights heavy though.
I like the Wittner ultralight because it doesn't add too much weight to the bottom of the strings.
There are some cheaper tailpieces that are better than others, so price doesn't always matter.
I definitely wasn’t questioning your authority on this topic
guys, this might sound crazy, but I think this guy likes violin
I'm comment 70 also I wanted a violin for like 3 years now just never had the money to get one and recently I did get the money and Im going to order one I'm just looking so before it gets here I'll at least know we're to start !
That's exciting!
All the best on your violin journey...
I wrote a report on things to look out for when buying an instrument. It's a good idea to read, so you can buy with confidence
over 2 tohusand for level entry violin is crazy
are those crickets in the background? really hard to listen to the video
You also lost me when you told me to spend that much on the instrument when I’m not even sure I can do it. Because you didn’t even encourage me to start playing in the first place 😢I just bought a violin for the first time and I’m already regretting it 😰
dude is nuts... wow.. no way
I want to start playing the violin but am 13 and people say it's to late can you answer pls 😅
Definitely not too late
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Is it too late to start learning when I'm 15?
@@ReaperGrimm absolutely not!
I have clients who started at 70! If you have big goals, it's just good to get a teacher with a great posture. That way you have a good foundation
Orvil Gibson made the mandolin more like a violin. Unfortunately he only did one thing wrong. The people who had been playing classical music would have loved his mandolins, however when he increased the scale length to that of a violin he inadvertantly raised all of the string tensions three pounds. Most instruments become easier to play as they evolve. So while the violin design was etched in stone, the mandolin has yet to mature. Talk about tension those players hated the increased tension.
I do not agree with starting with an expensive violin. It is by no means important. I just think it adds extra barriers to entry. Buy a decent student violin in the couple hundred dollar range, and see if this is truly something you want to do first. If you play for 6 months consistently, and you’re still loving every minute of it. Then consider spending more, but it is by no means necessary. It will take you a long time to make any violin sound even half decent, and yes whilst it might be slightly easier on a more expensive violin, there is no significant difference when you are a beginner player in my opinion.
so, you are suggesting to start with a violin that costs 2.500 dollars? are you serious or just joking?
I'm suggesting to get the best possible instrument to help you progress and have an enjoyable journey.
Don't let budget stop you from starting, but if you have the means, start with a descent instrument that sounds good and is well set up.
I fully understand that $2k is a lot of money for some but quite manageable for others...
I also understand that people from all over the world are watching my channel and that there are lots of different economies...
So just go for it with the best you can afford.
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2000$ damn, I was going to buy one for 40$...
@@TYFE_AE yeah, don't do that, but just get the best you can for a budget you can afford...
Don't let budget stop you from playing violin, but you just have to be really careful that the violin is well set up and at least has descent strings.
There is a link to my 7 essentials report to help guide you in finding a good instrument within your budget.
🎻 Have fun on your journey
@@AskOlaftheViolinmakerthank you🙏🙏🙏
waiting for a third generation violin maker
Do you think a teacher is necessary to learn violin? Or could you just learn by yourself?
What I didn't know was that I was playing on a terribly shaped bridge.
I learnt but I forgot so im here 😂 tho I was the worst in the orchestra
3:48 dude isn`t " two to three thousand dollars " too much? like this is so much money it`s 147k in my currency
@@Mr.Grave_ it just depends.
As I said in the video... It's about starting, so if that's too much, buy something cheaper, just be careful not to buy a VSO (violin shaped object) which makes it almost impossible to learn.
I also understand that there's lots of different currency values
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker Yes you are right, i gotta start somewhere. i really appreciate you making this video it`s so helpful and i have learned a lot by just watching you. Thank you Mr Olaf.
I think you can rent them. ?
$1'200. Or $1'500. Is the right amount if anyone else got that kinda money these days but if anyone really want to learn you would spend that much save up of work hard to get there
Bruh i have a month to learn it or i fail
Where was this video 6 years ago?? 😅
I would add this: do your research and find a *good* teacher!
Number 10 , have a large bank account 😮
Or you might be inspired to play by TwoSet Violin! You missed that one Olaf!
You're right!
Brett and Eddie really did inspire a lot of people to start!
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker So far, I've come across (almost) 300 who have said as much in the comments section... There are doubtless hundreds more out there and it's not limited to violin; they've inspired people to take up many other instruments or pick up where they left off. I met one chap in my home town... guy in his 40's... who played the violin at school but came across their channel and was inspired to try again... though he said it was like starting over... but, the thing is, he's now playing in an orchestra. Stories like this are so heartening and to meet another TwoSetter... Yay.
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Do you have web site store.