Right! Like...what did they expect? For the Norse to just sit politely in the middle of the river and fight both armies at once? Of course they're gonna choose the easier one.
@@karynjane5273 It's no wonder they lost. After 2000 years of invasion from Rome to the Saxons to the vikings you would think they would be tactical masterminds.
Not only that, but the fact that Britwulf decided to stay and fight instead of retreating and regrouping proves he is the biggest galaxy brain out there. Truly ahead of his time.
What do you expect?, they are Saxon who fight straight on.. in history they were defeated by Roman Empire easily and become its vassal, then they running away from their home to Britain afraid of the Huns forces.. at that time they are fool tribe who struggle to build a great kingdom that exist till now
Yeah it's like erm... because they dont have to fight you both at the same time, since you cant join up anyway. So why the fuck would they split their force and attack the greater force if they dont have to. Dont ask stupid questions Dumb Dumb.
@@kodesh1674 or at least get the hell out of here the moment the battle was going south. Instead he just stared at the Vikings killing their way to him like a brain dead.
I saw something with a ancient warfare expert where he said contested landings are a pretty 20th century idea and generally theyd just land somewhere where they hand some time to disembark a little further up river. Was kinda interesting.
That's not what happened with Ceaser when he landed in Britain. The Brits were waiting for him and the centurions had to charge straight from the water
@@ihsankamil6279 What he meant was thst IT wasnt generally done. Almost never. And that's true. There is only a handfull or examples from the past. And they all are special cases.
@@ihsankamil6279 Because the Celtic British kept following the ships that first ran into cliffs with nowhere to disembark so the Celts knew where the next landing would be and started heading there.
Honestly, if this was a real tactical game, rts or such and so forth, the smaller force is the bait. Usually a trap. The english outnumber the invaders, there's no reason to split the troops up. Sun tzu would be disappointed
The show itself is shit and is a terrible representation of Vikings and Saxons so I wouldn’t be surprised if they had little knowledge in the art of warfare
I absolutely love the 'kick your face off' energy of the first half of Season 3. The momentum is just phenomenal. And that then perfectly sets up the brilliant decline in the second half (Athelstan's death, Ragnar's psychological torture of Floki, Lagertha being usurped by Kalf, Siggy's death and Rollo's subsequent permanently fraying loyalty). But this Season, for me, just has that perfect atmosphere. It's literally stating 'We established these characters and stories in Season 1, we settled in and explored them further in Season 2, now we know who's who, let's get the story cracking and the events and interactions and arcs immediately set in motion' and I love it. It feels how a Season 3 should, in my opinion. No introductory formalities, no slogging through recapping or rehashing, it just cracks on with Ragnar as King, settlement negotiations, Ragnar and Kwenthirith's chemistry, Floki's continued disillusionment with Ragnar's path, more of Wessex, it's just amazing.
@An Incredibly Attractive Slice Of Bread His death was another amazing moment. And yet another catalyst for Floki's fraying trust in Ragnar given that Torstein dies for Ecbert's benefit. Brilliant stuff.
Don't you just love it, when the beginning of a battle scene features lots of meaningless orders being shouted to create the illusion, that actual tactics will play a role in the upcoming fight, only to take a giant shit all over that idea and have whole thing immediately devolve into an incoherent chaos of individual fights?
I don’t get why they never even attempt to film better battle scenes with actual realism. Sure, it’s cinematically a bit more challenging but the amount of great acting with bad historical accuracy is absurd in this show and many others like it.
@@Arcaryon It’s rather simple the general audience member doesn’t care/know about tactics and like the chaotic action as it’s more exciting to them and since there the target audience it’s catered to them.
@@JesusChristMyLord I disagree - I just think it’s just pure laziness which is odd because many directors are rather passionate about their work. I just don’t see the reason why there are no nearly no accurate movies, not even made for niche audiences.
Funny thing about Vikings, the very first battle in the show was the most realistic. Ragnars first raid on England when he was only with like 30 people, and then they encounter English on the beach blocking them from their boat so they fight. They actually use a shield wall and hold it the whole time, and it’s interesting seeing their tactics cause it actually makes them seem smarter
5:27 Once in a lifetime encounter. Son of the Bretwalda Ecbert meets with brother of Ragnar Lothbrok, Rollo. Then, the great warrior Aethelwulf died to a bee sting while Rollo retired his viking heritage and joined the Franks. Two Great Warriors. Never will we see this encounter again.
Update: The sequel Vikings Valhalla just dropped. It features multiple encounters between Emma of Normandy and Edmund. Emma was the great granddaughter of Rollo, while Edmund was the great grandson of Aethelwulf. Crazy how history leads to these events.
@@gregoirelebatard1057 the franks themselves were a tribe in the forests of Germany but fought for Rome as mercenaries, by the time the empire split and was in decline, there were several small Frankish kingdoms (many of whom fought each other), they were united by the king Clovis who introduced Christianity to the franks and led them to many victories against the visigoths (another German tribe that migrated to southern Spain), taking land and riches.
6:33 the way Ragnar just emerges from the chaos like _"guess who, bitch?"_ is genuinely so cool you have no clue how much I LOVED his character Edit: dont get me started on how everything from the music to the screams just muffled out and time slows down, as if Brihtwulf just looked at the face of Death itself
@@weeboooooSimply saves room. Fighting on a ship is hard, lotta people shoulder to shoulder, masts and sails getting in the way, you really cant afford to be tripping over a dead english guy too
This. I actually see that being pretty realistic too. If you'd be a Viking raider with violence being the norm and your way of going to heaven mainly being dying in battle, you'd probably look at that stinky Anglo-Saxon and be like "Right, time to make room". These guys butchered kids, women, infants, elderly IRL, makes sense they couldn't care less about some half-dead foreign soldier.
This was the first webseries I have ever watched in my life. But this Viking series is really amazing, breathtaking and I am a fan of all character in this series. All played their role very well. After watching this series, I made a research on Vikings through internet. Scandinavian culture is awesome.
I see the same thing watching movies on the Romans and ancient Greeks. The battles always break down in to individual combat with fancy spin moves. You never see the Romans legion fight as a unit. And you don't see the Hoplites staying in their phalanx. That takes away the whole reason these ancient warriors were so successful in the first place.
@@davidhoekstra8671 It also doesn't make sense for these heavily armed infantry forces to storm into the water, where they are very vulnerable. Instead of a stable formation. Their archers are also useless shooting only two volleys even though they could've fired a ton more before they approached the landing zone. These are long bow archers, they can fire over a very long distance.
@@FiPMEgaming I agree. One would think it would be a lot better to sail be bit further were they could land unopposed. It seems like the move from ship to shore is where they are most vulnerable.
@@davidhoekstra8671 I think the Last Kingdom showed some scenes of fighting in formation. Only watched the 1st season tho. Although I liked the Viking series it becomes verry obvious the fighting is nowhere near historical accurate. Same goes for GoT, Its simply not as entertaining to watch but that goes with everything related to fighting in general.
the fact they chose to accept a landing where the enemy was instead of piking a better spot, most of the vikingrs didnt have any armor, half didnt have shields, going against spearmen, and longbowmen in armor, whilst the king has high ground, resting and morale, and numerical advantage shows just how much plot armor they rocking (guessing why they dont need a helmet). The king falls off his horse from nothing and his guards do nothing about it btw....
To be fair, there have been numerous times where people have made borderline autistic decisions in battle. Never underestimate people's capacity for stupidity.
A bunch of rice farmers with bolt action rifles beat the 20th Century American Army never underestimate a people's will to fight for what they believe in. Also it's a TV Drama not a documentary. You want realism watch documentary and read historical books instead of nitpicking Hollywood products
Orders his spearmen to charge in loose formation - brilliant - defeats the point of having a spear. The ranks were barely a man deep. They should have been at least three-men deep in a tight formation - those Vikings would have been skewered. Ez win.
@@BudMasta Paris? This is in Saxon England, not France. This battle may have happened, but it did not happen as depicted. You don't land ships *in front of a line of soldiers.* Because you WILL be massacred coming off the boats. What they would have done would be landing a little further away, form their lines and forces, then march towards their enemy.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 this battle did happen but in France, on the Seine River, it wasn't Ragnar Lothbrok (he didn't really exist), and the Danes landed on one bank of the river, then marched up to and defeated the smaller French Army.
Expert warriors? No. These aren’t Vikings, the Vikings in the show are a depiction of what people want to think Vikings were, and it is incredibly inaccurate.
@@TheEmpireAnimations Can you read? He said boat builders, mariners and warriors. I corrected him on the subject of warriors because they were most certainly not expert warriors. I could go on about ship building but he wasn’t exactly wrong, the Danish and Norwegians were renowned for that type of stuff. What exactly is your argument here? I addressed one part of his comment and you’re acting like he didn’t mention any other subject than boat building?
i mean.... he was on a horse...... he could've just rode away back towards friendly troops or atleast a safe location, but no! he had to stay there and look dumb until the enemy was right in front of him
Guessing he was used to fighting not-vikings who would capture an enemy ruler and keep him "prisoner" as a guest in their capital until a ransom was paid, which was the style at the time. He probably didn't realize he was in real danger until he was on the ground.
@@FEARSWTOR regardless not every king or commander was an idiot as shown in this pisspoor show. Almost every tactic and strategy goes to support the vikings over Saxons.
My only question is literally how the hell did the vikings win that?! The enemy troops were weighting in order literally right on the shore while the vikings were awkwardly having to jump off their ships at varying times, and weren’t all together.
@@highelf6086 The battle didn't occur as depicted in the show. Landing ships and then rushing off into a prepared force will not end with victory, only with you ended up slaughtered by the prepared forces. What they ACTUALLY did was land a little further away so they had enough time to organize their forces and then march towards the Saxon troops. You don't willingly sail into a contested beachhead unless you literally have no choice.
@@RobM00 I dunno about 'historical battles' but I have scenes that you can tell the creators tried hard to make it look authentic. HBO Rome had such a scene where the Roman lines fought a rabble of Gallic warriors. No breaking of formation (except for one drunken Roman who got punished for it), a clear example of discipline meets brute force.
i like how Ragnar could see her uncles death had a darker meaning behind it when his smile faded after sitting down and looking back at her seeing a different kind of pain on her face
Saxons: "I'm a great tactician! I'm going to show the majority of my army on my side leaving my uncle vulnerable with a lesser army. We don't have a bridge to help each other either but I just want to show you my full force of an army to scare you away because I am a great Saxon tactician! Danes: "I'm going to your uncles side. Good job! *LAUGHS IN IVAR.* "
I was thinking the same, the tv show is fun but people kinda think Vikings were the best warriors out there even if they were fucked on 1v1 army battle and were just raiding poor people villages without honor.
@@amaterasu6888 True, they were called raiders for a reason. It also seems like only 10% of most settlement actually went viking. Most of them were just peacefull farmers.
@@53strat55 I agree, whenever people tell me Vikings were the best warriors on the planet, I just tell them what happened in Al Andalus ( modern Spain and Portugal which was conquered by the Muslims at that time ) against the moors ( the vast majority was of north African Berbers and some Arab troops who originated from Morocco ), The Vikings thought the would just raid the Muslim cities as they did to the weak Christian ones, in a matter of days 30 Vikings ships were destroyed and the other ones fled, A lot of Vikings were beheaded, and the prisoners were given the duty of making cheese xD, and they were even some rumors that the Muslims beheaded the prisoners for fun because they were bad at making it. People thought they were the best because of the tv shows but in fact, whenever they faced an enemy with strong faith and a strong and disciplined army, they fled like little girls. I mean I don't hate on the northern warriors I just think that they are disgustingly overrated .
@@amaterasu6888 I think its kinda some ideology they want to hold on too. Vikings have been overhyped as fuck in Western and central Europe. All they did for most of the times was raid innocent people at small setlements, cmon. Is that a feat?
Exactly thank you. There’s no shield walls and hardly any realistic tactics in this show. Vikings were mainly raiders who targeted undefended villages yet the show makes them to be unstoppable elite warriors when that was further from the truth. It’s ridiculous how stupid and weak they make the Saxons look.
6:27 I feel like Ragnar was challenging Brihtwulf to single combat there. Like he was saying wordlessly, "Are you really not even going to TRY and avenge the men you've lost? Show your men how much of a coward you are, or climb down from that horse and defend them." But Brihtwulf was too afraid, and then his men try to seize the moment and swarm the King of the Vikings, but Ragnar's men sense what they're trying to do and charge up the hill to protect him. Incredible storytelling with no words at all.
I don't see why Brihtwulf didn't withdraw his forces after realising his mistake. Why did his kin and forces not mobilise to re-join at a river crossing - there was no need to give battle. Not sure why they stopped firing arrows so soon. The way you mount casualties with bowmen is with sheer volume of arrows, they needed to keep pouring them down.
Stupid show is the reason along side plot armor heavily supporting the characters. No idea why the archers didn't keep loosing arrows. Then of course there's no bridge or pathway for them to cross and rejoin is another dumb thing
I love analyzing the fictional war between mercia and Ragnar! However there are so many questions of both sides choices when it comes to defense positions and attack strategy 🤔. For example it's a bad idea to split your army the way the mercian forces did, but it's also equally a bad decision on Ragnars side to advance directly on the coast of the river attacking the enemy head on like D-day or something. So both are at fault but never the less it's a great fight!!!
It was painfully stupid writing. What’s the point in going into battle with two separate armies from the same kingdom when they can’t actually get to each other’s aid when the fighting begins? Ludicrous 🤦🏻♂️
And it’s because this show bigs up the tactical and fighting prowess of the Vikings while making the English look stupid . Mighty King Offa must be turning in his grave watching this shit go down! He would’ve wiped the floor with the northmen advancing recklessly like this
@@chrisstucker1813 You do realise this is based on an actual battle right? It’s just it wasn’t with the Saxons it was with the Franks. There were two armies on each side of the river Seine and the Vikings chose to attack the smaller army whilst the other were helpless.
I love how the guy orders the archers to fire after the boats were in range lol. He could have fired at them when they were in the middle of the river not almost across it lol.
What's wild is that this battle is loosely based on a true story. The *Franks* were actually dumb enough to line up their forces on both banks. The Vikings slaughtered the smaller army, then supposedly they sacrificed prisoners to Odin in full view of the other army.
Well, the usual order of battle in the Anglo-Saxon region at this time was the shield wall, which also best suited the armament (shield and spear) and worked even for poorly trained soldiers. Leaving the formation for individual close combat, as here on the British side in the film, would have been very unusual (and stupid). But maybe, they were.
In chess game tactics you do not need to take down the all officials because it may lead to steal mate, if there is an option to kill the King be merciless to save more lives.
Ah yet another battle betwen the the forces of the cool dudes that don't wear helmets or armor vs the army of the goofy guys with goofy helmets and goofy armor! I wonder who's gonna win!😮💨
5:35 Amazing how far we are gone, a woman with less than half the strength of a man doesn't die in the first 3 seconds and men with swords defeat men with spears.
![Vikings - The Great Heathen Army Attacks King Aelle's Army [Season 4B Official Scene] (4x18) [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/C9QwcOwhbGM/mqdefault.jpg)
![Vikings - The Great Heathen Army Attacks King Aelle's Army [Season 4B Official Scene] (4x18) [HD]](/img/tr.png)
![[Full Episode] Hell's Kitchen Thailand EP.14 | 12 พ.ค. 67](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MNspIlqlJcc/mqdefault.jpg)
![The Best Scenes of Historical Drama Movies (part 1) [HD]](/img/n.gif)
"Why are they just attacking my uncle" the words of a truly great tactician.
Indeed. I would have hid most my forces to lure them in to the stronger side... but I don't have the mind of a great tactician like he does.
Right! Like...what did they expect? For the Norse to just sit politely in the middle of the river and fight both armies at once? Of course they're gonna choose the easier one.
@@karynjane5273 It's no wonder they lost. After 2000 years of invasion from Rome to the Saxons to the vikings you would think they would be tactical masterminds.
Not only that, but the fact that Britwulf decided to stay and fight instead of retreating and regrouping proves he is the biggest galaxy brain out there. Truly ahead of his time.
What do you expect?, they are Saxon who fight straight on.. in history they were defeated by Roman Empire easily and become its vassal, then they running away from their home to Britain afraid of the Huns forces.. at that time they are fool tribe who struggle to build a great kingdom that exist till now
Why are they attacking only my uncle?
Because they’re not idiots!!!
Yeah that’s what I thought as well
Why not have Viking archers shoot at the Mercian men to thin there numbers?
@@kodesh1674 because they were on defense at first
Yeah it's like erm... because they dont have to fight you both at the same time, since you cant join up anyway. So why the fuck would they split their force and attack the greater force if they dont have to. Dont ask stupid questions Dumb Dumb.
@@kodesh1674 to be honest Vikings didnt make huge use of archers.
Thank you for uploading the whole battle. Thanks for not adding music or letters to the screen. Thanks for taking the time to upload this.
I would say, considering Brihtwulf armies' performance, you might as well put Yakety Sax in the background.
@@Tribersmanor the benny hill Theme
wait are you telling me you dont like techno music over all the audio? like 90% of youtube clips
"We have the high ground and spears... Let's run down there and negate all of our advantages!"
The fact they didn't just dare them to leave the boats with drawn arrows...
It’s a good thing those yellow guys were wearing armor made of cheesecloth.
It's a good thing that about 20 or so Vikings had never heard of using shields to protect against arrows in the ships.
@@mutteringmale Or helmetsXD... Fuckin garbage...
Ragnar, sitting down: “Well that was easy.”
If the Burgred was any kind of smart he would’ve kept his army together with Britwulf
@@kodesh1674 or at least get the hell out of here the moment the battle was going south. Instead he just stared at the Vikings killing their way to him like a brain dead.
Who here likes Vikings?
th-cam.com/users/shortswvaa2xiq0d4
ez
I saw something with a ancient warfare expert where he said contested landings are a pretty 20th century idea and generally theyd just land somewhere where they hand some time to disembark a little further up river. Was kinda interesting.
That's not what happened with Ceaser when he landed in Britain. The Brits were waiting for him and the centurions had to charge straight from the water
@@ihsankamil6279
What he meant was thst IT wasnt generally done.
Almost never. And that's true.
There is only a handfull or examples from the past. And they all are special cases.
@@ihsankamil6279 Because the Celtic British kept following the ships that first ran into cliffs with nowhere to disembark so the Celts knew where the next landing would be and started heading there.
“Something with an ancient warfare expert” lol, bloody idiot
@@sanuku535 yeah I just meant contested beach landings were extremely rare.
Ser Meryn got an upgrade from kingsguard haha
haha yeh he did
I believe the word you're looking for is "promoted". Either way he's moving up in the world. LOLOL.
same outcome
"Too old"
@@DutchGuyMike got anything fresher!!!
Honestly, if this was a real tactical game, rts or such and so forth, the smaller force is the bait. Usually a trap. The english outnumber the invaders, there's no reason to split the troops up. Sun tzu would be disappointed
Get assassins creed valhalla
Well you could say they thought the Vikings dumb and thought they’d split the armies
The show itself is shit and is a terrible representation of Vikings and Saxons so I wouldn’t be surprised if they had little knowledge in the art of warfare
@@MBryy it’s so good isn’t it!!
@@yesmushgeetup YES!!!
Ragnar looking at his son be like "why u such a simp boy?" 😂
taking care of a fav lay has been the downfall of many a good man
I absolutely love the 'kick your face off' energy of the first half of Season 3. The momentum is just phenomenal. And that then perfectly sets up the brilliant decline in the second half (Athelstan's death, Ragnar's psychological torture of Floki, Lagertha being usurped by Kalf, Siggy's death and Rollo's subsequent permanently fraying loyalty). But this Season, for me, just has that perfect atmosphere. It's literally stating 'We established these characters and stories in Season 1, we settled in and explored them further in Season 2, now we know who's who, let's get the story cracking and the events and interactions and arcs immediately set in motion' and I love it. It feels how a Season 3 should, in my opinion. No introductory formalities, no slogging through recapping or rehashing, it just cracks on with Ragnar as King, settlement negotiations, Ragnar and Kwenthirith's chemistry, Floki's continued disillusionment with Ragnar's path, more of Wessex, it's just amazing.
@An Incredibly Attractive Slice Of Bread His death was another amazing moment. And yet another catalyst for Floki's fraying trust in Ragnar given that Torstein dies for Ecbert's benefit. Brilliant stuff.
Well put. Seasons 1-3 were peak. Show went off a cliff after Ragnar. It got so bad
“Fck guy I just got hit in the arm with an arrow and you throw me overboard?!”
Hey, I`m a viking, not a doctor...
Don't you just love it, when the beginning of a battle scene features lots of meaningless orders being shouted to create the illusion, that actual tactics will play a role in the upcoming fight, only to take a giant shit all over that idea and have whole thing immediately devolve into an incoherent chaos of individual fights?
I don’t get why they never even attempt to film better battle scenes with actual realism. Sure, it’s cinematically a bit more challenging but the amount of great acting with bad historical accuracy is absurd in this show and many others like it.
@@Arcaryon It’s rather simple the general audience member doesn’t care/know about tactics and like the chaotic action as it’s more exciting to them and since there the target audience it’s catered to them.
@@JesusChristMyLord I disagree - I just think it’s just pure laziness which is odd because many directors are rather passionate about their work. I just don’t see the reason why there are no nearly no accurate movies, not even made for niche audiences.
Funny thing about Vikings, the very first battle in the show was the most realistic. Ragnars first raid on England when he was only with like 30 people, and then they encounter English on the beach blocking them from their boat so they fight. They actually use a shield wall and hold it the whole time, and it’s interesting seeing their tactics cause it actually makes them seem smarter
@@geechyguy3441 agree. But I actually like the raid in Lindisfarne even better - more like a massacre than a battle, I know, but stil...
5:27
Once in a lifetime encounter. Son of the Bretwalda Ecbert meets with brother of Ragnar Lothbrok, Rollo. Then, the great warrior Aethelwulf died to a bee sting while Rollo retired his viking heritage and joined the Franks.
Two Great Warriors. Never will we see this encounter again.
Update: The sequel Vikings Valhalla just dropped. It features multiple encounters between Emma of Normandy and Edmund.
Emma was the great granddaughter of Rollo, while Edmund was the great grandson of Aethelwulf. Crazy how history leads to these events.
Franks, are they French? I mean, I think it’s that , the most part of white French people descend of Frank I think
@@gregoirelebatard1057 France is named after a nickname for the people of that area, "franks", so yes it is the french.
@@gregoirelebatard1057 the franks themselves were a tribe in the forests of Germany but fought for Rome as mercenaries, by the time the empire split and was in decline, there were several small Frankish kingdoms (many of whom fought each other), they were united by the king Clovis who introduced Christianity to the franks and led them to many victories against the visigoths (another German tribe that migrated to southern Spain), taking land and riches.
Not how battles were fought in those times - but hey, let's not let historical facts get in the way of a good battle scene!!!!
"I cannot help him"
_Surprised Pikachu Face_
That thick stare at the end is haunting. Ragnar was a complex character, my hat is off to Travis. He did an excellent job in all of this.
"Hey Brihtwulf, looks like I have all the soldiers!!"
"Hey Burgred, looks like your on THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVVVERRRR!!!"
Hope someone gets this 😂
Brandon Fraser as a Viking is something I never considered.
One of my favorite moves of all time :)
Yes I do and it made me laugh 😂
Man 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Benny Fr 😂
6:33 the way Ragnar just emerges from the chaos like _"guess who, bitch?"_ is genuinely so cool you have no clue how much I LOVED his character
Edit: dont get me started on how everything from the music to the screams just muffled out and time slows down, as if Brihtwulf just looked at the face of Death itself
*gets hit by 1 arrow* 3:37 "welp, you gave it your best, mate" *throws them off ship*
anyone know why this happened
@@weeboooooSimply saves room. Fighting on a ship is hard, lotta people shoulder to shoulder, masts and sails getting in the way, you really cant afford to be tripping over a dead english guy too
Old man probably owed him some coin. lol
This. I actually see that being pretty realistic too.
If you'd be a Viking raider with violence being the norm and your way of going to heaven mainly being dying in battle, you'd probably look at that stinky Anglo-Saxon and be like "Right, time to make room".
These guys butchered kids, women, infants, elderly IRL, makes sense they couldn't care less about some half-dead foreign soldier.
@@rausch5895 how can you tell the guy was an anglo saxon instead of a viking? I havent seen the show just wondering. Thanks for the insightful comment
Anyone shot: immediately falls off boat into river lol
Have you ever shot a Arrow?
@@alphasheep7116 I think he meant the people who got hit fell off the longships dramatically. Not the people who shot the arrows at them.
@@alphasheep7116 in what world does your comment make sense?
@@MHjort9 why you are being weirdo?
Lads not gonna lie, this is very confusing thread.
Thanks for uploading the video.... Shows how smart Ragnar was. Next level acting from everyone
This was the first webseries I have ever watched in my life. But this Viking series is really amazing, breathtaking and I am a fan of all character in this series. All played their role very well. After watching this series, I made a research on Vikings through internet. Scandinavian culture is awesome.
Well, it used to be awesome.
Who here likes Vikings?
th-cam.com/users/shortswvaa2xiq0d4
@@donarthiazi2443 yes now muslims taking over all the europe
Well, we always get the usual "attack!" stuff in medieval war movies... yeah break spear formation and try your chance in single combat...
I see the same thing watching movies on the Romans and ancient Greeks. The battles always break down in to individual combat with fancy spin moves.
You never see the Romans legion fight as a unit. And you don't see the Hoplites staying in their phalanx. That takes away the whole reason these ancient warriors were so successful in the first place.
@@davidhoekstra8671 It also doesn't make sense for these heavily armed infantry forces to storm into the water, where they are very vulnerable. Instead of a stable formation. Their archers are also useless shooting only two volleys even though they could've fired a ton more before they approached the landing zone. These are long bow archers, they can fire over a very long distance.
@@FiPMEgaming I agree. One would think it would be a lot better to sail be bit further were they could land unopposed. It seems like the move from ship to shore is where they are most vulnerable.
Saxon keels are worst troops to bring :)
@@davidhoekstra8671 I think the Last Kingdom showed some scenes of fighting in formation. Only watched the 1st season tho. Although I liked the Viking series it becomes verry obvious the fighting is nowhere near historical accurate. Same goes for GoT, Its simply not as entertaining to watch but that goes with everything related to fighting in general.
the fact they chose to accept a landing where the enemy was instead of piking a better spot, most of the vikingrs didnt have any armor, half didnt have shields, going against spearmen, and longbowmen in armor, whilst the king has high ground, resting and morale, and numerical advantage shows just how much plot armor they rocking (guessing why they dont need a helmet). The king falls off his horse from nothing and his guards do nothing about it btw....
When longbows were invented hundreds of years later too 😂
To be fair, there have been numerous times where people have made borderline autistic decisions in battle. Never underestimate people's capacity for stupidity.
I agree this scene is utterly stupid.
A bunch of rice farmers with bolt action rifles beat the 20th Century American Army never underestimate a people's will to fight for what they believe in.
Also it's a TV Drama not a documentary. You want realism watch documentary and read historical books instead of nitpicking Hollywood products
Orders his spearmen to charge in loose formation - brilliant - defeats the point of having a spear. The ranks were barely a man deep. They should have been at least three-men deep in a tight formation - those Vikings would have been skewered. Ez win.
This actually happened and the vikings irl slaughtered one side and the other side retreated to Paris which also got sacked.
Assuming, of course, the Vikings didn't have javelins, throwing axes, and bows.
Well viking plot armor their somehow more smarter than every Saxon in the show
@@BudMasta
Paris? This is in Saxon England, not France.
This battle may have happened, but it did not happen as depicted. You don't land ships *in front of a line of soldiers.* Because you WILL be massacred coming off the boats. What they would have done would be landing a little further away, form their lines and forces, then march towards their enemy.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 this battle did happen but in France, on the Seine River, it wasn't Ragnar Lothbrok (he didn't really exist), and the Danes landed on one bank of the river, then marched up to and defeated the smaller French Army.
Gonna have to rewatch the series absolutely love it
That's what you get for messing with Ayra Stark's family.
?
@@Jelcek28 look who the uncle.was.in GoT
Oh shit! It's Merran Trant. Yeah fuck him...
@@briez9648 excuse me it’s ser teryn mant
Ser teryn mant and ser whodafook cares
Literally the battle I was looking for and was the first video to pop. Beautiful.
0:40 I had to go back and pause that, I thought Ragnar was shot for a moment. Then I realized he had his shield on his back, and it stopped the arrow.
Yo wtf thanks I just noticed that
Damn, at 0:39 you can see Ragnar try to help the guy before he falls
He’s a true leader
Correct me if I am wrong, but at 3:41 a guy seems to get "help" to fall into the water after being shot.
@@k-rj740what is he supposed to represent in his clown armour?
How does that poor actor always end up playing abusive sexual predators. It must be the worst to have that particular type cast ;(
Honestly lol
He gets paid a lot for it
Seasons 1-4 was some of the best television iv ever watched!
Speed & technique = Ragnar
Strength & Power = Rollo
What a combo of a Brother
4:35
I like the coming backflips and sound effect.
Expert boat builders, mariners and warriors- most epic Marine force in ancient times.
Expert warriors? No. These aren’t Vikings, the Vikings in the show are a depiction of what people want to think Vikings were, and it is incredibly inaccurate.
@@unga8588 he said expert boat builders learn to read..and these are vikings in the old era yes some stuff is incorrect its a tvs show
@@TheEmpireAnimations Can you read? He said boat builders, mariners and warriors. I corrected him on the subject of warriors because they were most certainly not expert warriors. I could go on about ship building but he wasn’t exactly wrong, the Danish and Norwegians were renowned for that type of stuff. What exactly is your argument here? I addressed one part of his comment and you’re acting like he didn’t mention any other subject than boat building?
Tell that to Alfred’s navy which destroyed them in several sea battles
Look at tiny Björn, omg.
Floki just chilling with no sheild 😂😂
i mean.... he was on a horse...... he could've just rode away back towards friendly troops or atleast a safe location, but no! he had to stay there and look dumb until the enemy was right in front of him
Guessing he was used to fighting not-vikings who would capture an enemy ruler and keep him "prisoner" as a guest in their capital until a ransom was paid, which was the style at the time. He probably didn't realize he was in real danger until he was on the ground.
@@FEARSWTOR regardless not every king or commander was an idiot as shown in this pisspoor show.
Almost every tactic and strategy goes to support the vikings over Saxons.
"Ragnar thinking as he sat down,....well now, nice warm up from these wimps. Rest up boys, tonight we row over and slay all those others, too."
My only question is literally how the hell did the vikings win that?! The enemy troops were weighting in order literally right on the shore while the vikings were awkwardly having to jump off their ships at varying times, and weren’t all together.
plot armour
Yep having to wade out of the water into a shield and spear wall would be a slaughter in reality
The show wasn't well written. Follows the rule of cool unfortunately.
This is a historical battle actually where vikings won, dont know what u mean "plot armor"
@@highelf6086
The battle didn't occur as depicted in the show. Landing ships and then rushing off into a prepared force will not end with victory, only with you ended up slaughtered by the prepared forces.
What they ACTUALLY did was land a little further away so they had enough time to organize their forces and then march towards the Saxon troops. You don't willingly sail into a contested beachhead unless you literally have no choice.
This is my favourite look on Ragnar, the hair just looks so good
Vikings...at the time...feared and respected
3:41
Wessex soldier: "Takes 1 arrow"
Old Man Who's Been Just Waiting For An Excuse: 👁️👄👁️ ---🤸🌊
Just found your channel and Subscribed.Love The Viking Squirrel name 😂 😂
🗣️ We playing bad north with this scene 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Maryn trant always gets wrecked
'Ah, look at these two shining warriors. Sir 'Teryn Mant' and...uh...sir who's it of who cares' - Ragnar Lothbrok, probably.
I doubt we'll ever see historically accurate battles. The Battle of Gaugamela was close enough.
@@RobM00 I dunno about 'historical battles' but I have scenes that you can tell the creators tried hard to make it look authentic. HBO Rome had such a scene where the Roman lines fought a rabble of Gallic warriors. No breaking of formation (except for one drunken Roman who got punished for it), a clear example of discipline meets brute force.
Only Battle of Gaugamela and HBO Rome and afew others are capable of more realistic and tactical battles
7:24, the valkirie wont come for him.
Grown ubba looks so much like Ragnar here
i like how Ragnar could see her uncles death had a darker meaning behind it when his smile faded after sitting down and looking back at her seeing a different kind of pain on her face
This battle was fucking dope af.
look what u did , now i have to rewatch the whole show again
I absolutely love it , I am Viking in mind and spirit
Saxons: "I'm a great tactician! I'm going to show the majority of my army on my side leaving my uncle vulnerable with a lesser army. We don't have a bridge to help each other either but I just want to show you my full force of an army to scare you away because I am a great Saxon tactician!
Danes: "I'm going to your uncles side. Good job! *LAUGHS IN IVAR.* "
1:44 Gimlie "Ohhh come on, we can take em'!"
These were great days. A boot and an axe.
Ragnar is the great fight ever live in this planet 👌❤️ and his brother as well I love them
In their attempt to divide and conquer the vikings, Burgred and Brihtwulf managed to get themselves divided and in turn conquered.
Funny how the anglo saxons are all played by Celts and most of the Viking actors are anglo Saxon 😂😂😂
No in fact no
Assassin creed Valhalla 8K Photorealistic Vision and Realistic cinematic vision
Haha lol
I think Ubisoft was also a fan of the show
Can you imagine the fear that must have been running through people when battles started. Crazy.
"We attack your uncle, just stay out of our way, sound the horn, concentrate the full attack on the right bank"
So fucking badass when you know much about Vikings the wars the gods then the platform
"Why are they just attacking my uncle" ?
- Jens Stoltenberg
7:24 why uncle dont run
Lovely kill
Vikings is fun but the battles are nowhere near realistic, I have a feeling some people think it is.
I was thinking the same, the tv show is fun but people kinda think Vikings were the best warriors out there even if they were fucked on 1v1 army battle and were just raiding poor people villages without honor.
@@amaterasu6888 True, they were called raiders for a reason. It also seems like only 10% of most settlement actually went viking. Most of them were just peacefull farmers.
@@53strat55 I agree, whenever people tell me Vikings were the best warriors on the planet, I just tell them what happened in Al Andalus ( modern Spain and Portugal which was conquered by the Muslims at that time ) against the moors ( the vast majority was of north African Berbers and some Arab troops who originated from Morocco ), The Vikings thought the would just raid the Muslim cities as they did to the weak Christian ones, in a matter of days 30 Vikings ships were destroyed and the other ones fled, A lot of Vikings were beheaded, and the prisoners were given the duty of making cheese xD, and they were even some rumors that the Muslims beheaded the prisoners for fun because they were bad at making it. People thought they were the best because of the tv shows but in fact, whenever they faced an enemy with strong faith and a strong and disciplined army, they fled like little girls. I mean I don't hate on the northern warriors I just think that they are disgustingly overrated .
@@amaterasu6888 I think its kinda some ideology they want to hold on too. Vikings have been overhyped as fuck in Western and central Europe. All they did for most of the times was raid innocent people at small setlements, cmon. Is that a feat?
Exactly thank you. There’s no shield walls and hardly any realistic tactics in this show. Vikings were mainly raiders who targeted undefended villages yet the show makes them to be unstoppable elite warriors when that was further from the truth. It’s ridiculous how stupid and weak they make the Saxons look.
Meryn Trant still getting his ass kicked 😆
At 1:57 I could almost see the equations, odds and tactics going through Ragnar’s brain.
6:27 I feel like Ragnar was challenging Brihtwulf to single combat there. Like he was saying wordlessly, "Are you really not even going to TRY and avenge the men you've lost? Show your men how much of a coward you are, or climb down from that horse and defend them."
But Brihtwulf was too afraid, and then his men try to seize the moment and swarm the King of the Vikings, but Ragnar's men sense what they're trying to do and charge up the hill to protect him. Incredible storytelling with no words at all.
„Send the Horn“ - Battle begins !!!!
I don't see why Brihtwulf didn't withdraw his forces after realising his mistake. Why did his kin and forces not mobilise to re-join at a river crossing - there was no need to give battle. Not sure why they stopped firing arrows so soon. The way you mount casualties with bowmen is with sheer volume of arrows, they needed to keep pouring them down.
Stupid show is the reason along side plot armor heavily supporting the characters.
No idea why the archers didn't keep loosing arrows. Then of course there's no bridge or pathway for them to cross and rejoin is another dumb thing
Imagine if they had a great invention called a spear
I love analyzing the fictional war between mercia and Ragnar! However there are so many questions of both sides choices when it comes to defense positions and attack strategy 🤔. For example it's a bad idea to split your army the way the mercian forces did, but it's also equally a bad decision on Ragnars side to advance directly on the coast of the river attacking the enemy head on like D-day or something. So both are at fault but never the less it's a great fight!!!
There's no battles with Americans. The Natives don't even show up till last season when they find Loki in the "New World"
The forces didn’t split. They are two separate armies led by two separate leaders.
It was painfully stupid writing. What’s the point in going into battle with two separate armies from the same kingdom when they can’t actually get to each other’s aid when the fighting begins? Ludicrous 🤦🏻♂️
And it’s because this show bigs up the tactical and fighting prowess of the Vikings while making the English look stupid . Mighty King Offa must be turning in his grave watching this shit go down! He would’ve wiped the floor with the northmen advancing recklessly like this
@@chrisstucker1813 You do realise this is based on an actual battle right? It’s just it wasn’t with the Saxons it was with the Franks. There were two armies on each side of the river Seine and the Vikings chose to attack the smaller army whilst the other were helpless.
Takes an arrow shot so they toss him overboard 😂😂
What was the king plan
Is this an episode or season someone tell me
Ragnar: You gonna join this party your majesty or what!?
Wow this looked way better in memory
What's this "more than land or riches"? Does she mean hanky-panky?
She does indeed!
"Why are they just attacking my uncle?"
You use "auto-resolve" a lot, don't ya, boy?
I love how the guy orders the archers to fire after the boats were in range lol. He could have fired at them when they were in the middle of the river not almost across it lol.
Maybe someone can explain to me why the guy got thrown over board after hit with the arrow?
Damn travis fimmel kicks arse in this seasons no wonder fans got bored when ragnar dies
What's wild is that this battle is loosely based on a true story. The *Franks* were actually dumb enough to line up their forces on both banks.
The Vikings slaughtered the smaller army, then supposedly they sacrificed prisoners to Odin in full view of the other army.
Hmmm i am on a horse, my team is losing and my enemy has no horses, should i run?
Naw i'll just sit here and do nothing.
I know this isnt historically acurate but it still hurts to watch the tactical blunder the faction leaders make.
what is the name of the movie
Brihtwulf was better at beating little girls than being king
Теперь ты король, Флоки))
High top fade Ragnar was a savage
Well, the usual order of battle in the Anglo-Saxon region at this time was the shield wall, which also best suited the armament (shield and spear) and worked even for poorly trained soldiers. Leaving the formation for individual close combat, as here on the British side in the film, would have been very unusual (and stupid). But maybe, they were.
Sire, nine row boats are attacking... loose fire arrows. The end
"Why are they just attacking my uncle"
Even AI in Total War games is not such stuppid
"Why are they attacking my uncle?"
Because he is your uncle
Lol... We don't need no stinking helmets and shields, we have been equipped with +25 Plot armor!
In chess game tactics you do not need to take down the all officials because it may lead to steal mate, if there is an option to kill the King be merciless to save more lives.
These spearmen can't even hold the line
Really no shield wall? Or clever battle tactics? Just typical Hollywood style mash up fights
Ah yet another battle betwen the the forces of the cool dudes that don't wear helmets or armor vs the army of the goofy guys with goofy helmets and goofy armor! I wonder who's gonna win!😮💨
5:35 Amazing how far we are gone, a woman with less than half the strength of a man doesn't die in the first 3 seconds and men with swords defeat men with spears.