I like how this what if doesn’t have Gohan dying to trigger Goku going Ssj2, instead having Goku being enraged at himself for putting his son in danger and taking a senzu bean to allow his power to further rise to go beyond Ssj.
I read another story similar to this one, but it was more dramatic. This time, Gohan died, and Goku transformed to SSJ2 out of pure rage to defeat Cell, but it was not as easy.
Ss2 Goku would be overwhelming for Cell. The battle wouldn’t last long like with Gohan refusing to fight, letting power get to his head, and self doubt.
He would not. Cell had a LOT of hidden power, he used less than half to beat Goku in their first round, and Goku wasn't wounded enough for a zenkai. Ssj2 Goku would barely be a challenge for Cell and would definitely lose.
@ If Cell, after fighting Goku, was comfortable letting Goku have a sensu bean and still everyone else too, he must have had a huge edge on Goku. We also find that Cell was holding back a huge amount of power when he fought SSj2 Gohan. Goku going ssj2 would only double Goku's power. Obviously he would lose.
Actually there wasn't a massive gap between ssj grade 4 Goku and Perfect Cell. It was a little power gap between them. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku as a ssj , still he didn't have the warrior spirit to fight cell. He was fighting like a rookie for some reason, eventhough previously against frieza and some other foes, he fought well. Only after attaining ssj 2 against cell along with the rage boost , Gohan was able to beat the crap out of cell. The power gap between them at that time was significant. So much so that even after cell came back after regenerating, he wasn't able to defeat gohan. Now lets talk about goku. If Goku went ssj 2 , then he would have beaten cell, because he already knew about cell's regeneration ability before cell fought Gohan. Therefore he wouldn't let cell regenerate. So Cell wouldn't come back and kill Trunks. If Cell comes back and kills trunks, only than will Goku be overwhelmed. Than the collective effort of all z fighters would be required to take down Super perfect Cell.
I think this is fairly accurate. But imo Goku at ssj2 wouldn't have been as powerful as SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games saga. Goku would have spent less time messing around against Cell and I think that is the only difference.
This is my problem with the z warriors. They rely on goku so much its like, why yall even their. It's almost like goku is constantly put on this pedestal.
Wow. Very well done and totally believable in my opinion. However, the original with Gohan’s rage is still the better storytelling option because of the elements of of Gohan’s pride, Gohan’s incredible potential, the consequence of not finishing Cell early, Goku’s sacrifice, the fallout of Cell returning as equal to Gohan and killing Trunks, and the awesome father/son kamehameha. But yeah, Goku doing bad father shit. 🤣😂🤣😂
Technically Goku did SSJ2 Super Saiyan 2 first against Broly in the movies if you count that where most won’t with the canon non canon crap but if your going DBH SDBH by DBZ movies then yeah Goku went SSJ2 by getting power from everyone transferring it into Goku to stop Broly and he turned only for a brief min or 2 mins and punched broly with Goku a SSJ2 power up that’s from what I always remember even if most ppl don’t count the movies but I like Toyotaro story in that regard but yeah Gohan going SSJ2 first with the beast form within or beast inside him coming up and unleashing his SSJ2 to defeat Perfect Cell is always a good story also…. So yeah!
No he didn't go ssj2 against Broly, he got energy that maybe put him on par with his grade 4 self in the main anime. At that time there was no sign or mention of cell so it's not like they trained in the chamber to combat him. They weren't even in ssj 24/7 like they were supposed to be. Overall they're weaker in movie 8 than they are in the main anime
I feel like if anyone else besides gohan became ssj2 everyone would die yes Goku vegeta or trunks wouldn’t of made the same mistake and let him self destruct but cell has holding back a lot against Goku vegeta and trunks
more s cells cabba cale caulifla did becaome ss2 ;as the universe 6 sayaisn were way more pure hearted so goki and gine and broly are that exception even raditz to a certain extent tarble
As fun as this was...even at SSJ2 Goku would have lost to Perfect Cell. The gap between Perfect Cell's full power and his Super Saiyan Grade 4 was too great and even the two-times boost from transforming into a Super Saiyan 2 wouldn't close the gap enough, At most it would have been an equal fight but Cell probably would have the advantage. Gohan was literally the only person who could actually beat Perfect Cell and even Super Perfect Cell. But still good storytelling.
@@theinvestigativemillennial9381Perfect Cell was probably around three times more powerful anfull power Super Saiyan Grade 4 Goku from how the fight went and when he finally revealed his full power.
I guess if Goku had ascended to the next level right there and than, with a rage boost on top, his power have been pretty similar to Cells Percet form [applying Saiyan Schoolars power relation/scaling, which is imo pretty reasonable: 1,25x stronger -> Start to overwhelm 1,5x stronger -> Easy to overwhelm 1,75x stronger -> High End Domination 2x stronger = Tank Attacks Unhurt 2,25× stronger = Absorb/control opponents energy simply using raw power] Let's do it the old fashioned way, while applying this. Let's Assume Gokus power was 1000.000. In the fight between Goku and Cell, the ammount of power Cell showed, was least 1.25x stronger than Gokus, bc he dominated the fight. At full strength, so he may be a tier higher, at 1,5x Goku. This would place him smth between 12.500.000 & 15.000.000 in shown strength. After Goku blasted him almost to death, after regeneration and the senzu, Cell got a Zenkai. Since his injury was very heavy, but the effectiveness of Zenkais decreases over time, Cell went up for another 1,25x or 1,5x. So his power is between 15.625.000 18.750.000 and 22.500.000 Once again after Gohan went SSJ 2, Cell went full power. I suppose this means he went 1,25x/1,5x again. So he's smth in between 1.953.125, 2.343.750, 2.812.500 and 3.375.000. Comparing to Gokus SSJ 2 and either a 1.25x boost, Goku was at 2.500.000. Cell's Range ~ 2.000.000 - ~ 3.400.000 It's kind of hard to determine since there's too much range and no constant but my gut feeling tells me Cell would still have the advantage. On paper Goku could be stated weaker, but also stronger. Depending on his decision, due to his master mma level, KI control and battle, I suppose he either knew, he couldn't obtain SSJ 2 yet, or it would not be enough anyways.
I like how this what if doesn’t have Gohan dying to trigger Goku going Ssj2, instead having Goku being enraged at himself for putting his son in danger and taking a senzu bean to allow his power to further rise to go beyond Ssj.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Well said.
That sounds so cringe only someone who is a gohan fanboy can come up with
@@hippopotamushelmet and when did you get the implication of that?
Its more like what if Goku took a Senzu bean and took the fight with Cell seriously , also that's what everyone was expecting back in the day.
I read another story similar to this one, but it was more dramatic. This time, Gohan died, and Goku transformed to SSJ2 out of pure rage to defeat Cell, but it was not as easy.
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8:38 cell is now able to fire his laizaaa in his perfect form😂
Goku’s rage at seeing his own baby boy getting pummelled by Cell, letting it even happen was his key to achieving SSJ2
Great video, epic respect in telling this story.
When Goku powered up to SSJ1 Full Power against Cell. It was Goku’s final attempt to reach SSJ2, but afterwards he focused on having Gohan reach SSJ2
Great video!
Ss2 Goku would be overwhelming for Cell. The battle wouldn’t last long like with Gohan refusing to fight, letting power get to his head, and self doubt.
He would not. Cell had a LOT of hidden power, he used less than half to beat Goku in their first round, and Goku wasn't wounded enough for a zenkai. Ssj2 Goku would barely be a challenge for Cell and would definitely lose.
@@stoneharvey1017 nope
@ If Cell, after fighting Goku, was comfortable letting Goku have a sensu bean and still everyone else too, he must have had a huge edge on Goku. We also find that Cell was holding back a huge amount of power when he fought SSj2 Gohan.
Goku going ssj2 would only double Goku's power. Obviously he would lose.
This was awesome 🤩
Nice vid bro
The fight we all wish to be.
yeah i wish it was goku who first got ssj 2 and defeat perfect cell
Thank God finally found this vid
Nice video
Guys Rising fist created this what if episode. Its called "Goku punished for his biggest mistake"😮
Nah- did I just get an ad instantly saying "Those what ifs" and thought it was a part of the intro
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This was a fan manga narrated by mondo cool.
Holy sh*t!!! This is SO MUCH BETTER than the original👏👏👏👏👏👏
super perfect cell and ssj 2 goku battle would've been too close
i love your videos
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This all happened because Hoku assumed that Gohan was just like him.
No goku knew gohan had the power in him.
Yeah and Gohan was the only one who could beat him
Hoku is crazy
All happened because Goku believed in Gohan potential
For real bro hoku nearly sold
Love this what if more then the original
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goku was weaker than gohan so hed have beaten perfect cell but the moment he came back as super perfect cell kakarot would have been overwhelmed
He got a senzu after taking the bean, and gohan would have won w
In a 1v1 against goku midH
-high diff
he ate a senzu so hes not only at full strength but is now multiple times stronger.
@@esdrasdjuma6585 ssj1 kakarot vs ssj2 gohan ….gohan would have still low diff won
@@amordeweso no i mean ssj1 gohan before the ssj2 +rage boost.
Another title - " what if gohan wasn't overrated "
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It only took 4 hits for Gohan to cause Cell to cough up 18.
Actually there wasn't a massive gap between ssj grade 4 Goku and Perfect Cell. It was a little power gap between them. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku as a ssj , still he didn't have the warrior spirit to fight cell. He was fighting like a rookie for some reason, eventhough previously against frieza and some other foes, he fought well. Only after attaining ssj 2 against cell along with the rage boost , Gohan was able to beat the crap out of cell. The power gap between them at that time was significant. So much so that even after cell came back after regenerating, he wasn't able to defeat gohan.
Now lets talk about goku. If Goku went ssj 2 , then he would have beaten cell, because he already knew about cell's regeneration ability before cell fought Gohan. Therefore he wouldn't let cell regenerate. So Cell wouldn't come back and kill Trunks.
If Cell comes back and kills trunks, only than will Goku be overwhelmed. Than the collective effort of all z fighters would be required to take down Super perfect Cell.
When cell went to full power it scared Goku, I'd say cell held back a lot of power. Ssj2 goku MIGHT be on par with full power cell at best
I think this is fairly accurate. But imo Goku at ssj2 wouldn't have been as powerful as SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games saga. Goku would have spent less time messing around against Cell and I think that is the only difference.
Power weighted cell is equal to ssj2 cell games goku
This is my problem with the z warriors. They rely on goku so much its like, why yall even their. It's almost like goku is constantly put on this pedestal.
Weird how you didnt have Cell go full power, i guess keeping hik suppressed meant goku had a chance at winning i guess
if goku was ssj 2 cell would be no match for goku and in perfect form cell cannot extend his tail
I mean gt he did it even though it's not cannon but it's still proof he can
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How do you know he can't?
@@everettjohnson9374 because he never did in dbz. If he could, i doubt that he wouldn't attempt to absorb gohan when he was at the brink of defeat
Wow. Very well done and totally believable in my opinion. However, the original with Gohan’s rage is still the better storytelling option because of the elements of of Gohan’s pride, Gohan’s incredible potential, the consequence of not finishing Cell early, Goku’s sacrifice, the fallout of Cell returning as equal to Gohan and killing Trunks, and the awesome father/son kamehameha. But yeah, Goku doing bad father shit. 🤣😂🤣😂
What if Cell went CellPhone against Gohan?
Technically Goku did SSJ2 Super Saiyan 2 first against Broly in the movies if you count that where most won’t with the canon non canon crap but if your going DBH SDBH by DBZ movies then yeah Goku went SSJ2 by getting power from everyone transferring it into Goku to stop Broly and he turned only for a brief min or 2 mins and punched broly with Goku a SSJ2 power up that’s from what I always remember even if most ppl don’t count the movies but I like Toyotaro story in that regard but yeah Gohan going SSJ2 first with the beast form within or beast inside him coming up and unleashing his SSJ2 to defeat Perfect Cell is always a good story also…. So yeah!
Yes he had the energy of all the strongest z fighters and briefly turned SSJ2 with the uppercut one punch Broly outta there!
@GeographyCool214yes I think so not no ssj2 briefly!
No he didn't go ssj2 against Broly, he got energy that maybe put him on par with his grade 4 self in the main anime. At that time there was no sign or mention of cell so it's not like they trained in the chamber to combat him. They weren't even in ssj 24/7 like they were supposed to be. Overall they're weaker in movie 8 than they are in the main anime
Nah he went SSJ2 briefly with everyone’s powers so yes he did even if it was for a min or two!
Nah he went SSJ2 even if it was only for a minute or two briefly getting powers from everyone to defeat Broly and yes it happened!
Still not as strong as ssj2 kid gohan
I feel like if anyone else besides gohan became ssj2 everyone would die yes Goku vegeta or trunks wouldn’t of made the same mistake and let him self destruct but cell has holding back a lot against Goku vegeta and trunks
In Dragon Ball Rise it's worse
Cell should have killed gohan so he would have turned faster.
Cell doesn't have a long tail.. 😮
He can out stretch it
No. Goku ssj2 defeat Cell with one blow
If cell somehow went super perfect cell, than goku wouldve lost😮
more s cells cabba cale caulifla did becaome ss2 ;as the universe 6 sayaisn were way more pure hearted so goki and gine and broly are that exception even raditz to a certain extent tarble
A better question would have been if Goku could beat Cell with Super Kaioken.
Weaker than super kaioken
First
As fun as this was...even at SSJ2 Goku would have lost to Perfect Cell. The gap between Perfect Cell's full power and his Super Saiyan Grade 4 was too great and even the two-times boost from transforming into a Super Saiyan 2 wouldn't close the gap enough, At most it would have been an equal fight but Cell probably would have the advantage. Gohan was literally the only person who could actually beat Perfect Cell and even Super Perfect Cell. But still good storytelling.
Why does perfect cell full power need to be 2x grade 4 Goku?
Even a 1.5 x boost is more than enough to explain why Cell knew he could win.
@@theinvestigativemillennial9381Perfect Cell was probably around three times more powerful anfull power Super Saiyan Grade 4 Goku from how the fight went and when he finally revealed his full power.
I guess if Goku had ascended to the next level right there and than, with a rage boost on top, his power have been pretty similar to Cells Percet form
[applying Saiyan Schoolars power relation/scaling, which is imo pretty reasonable:
1,25x stronger -> Start to overwhelm
1,5x stronger -> Easy to overwhelm
1,75x stronger -> High End Domination
2x stronger = Tank Attacks Unhurt
2,25× stronger = Absorb/control opponents energy simply using raw power]
Let's do it the old fashioned way, while applying this. Let's Assume Gokus power was 1000.000.
In the fight between Goku and Cell, the ammount of power Cell showed, was least 1.25x stronger than Gokus, bc he dominated the fight. At full strength, so he may be a tier higher, at 1,5x Goku. This would place him smth between 12.500.000 & 15.000.000 in shown strength.
After Goku blasted him almost to death, after regeneration and the senzu, Cell got a Zenkai. Since his injury was very heavy, but the effectiveness of Zenkais decreases over time, Cell went up for another 1,25x or 1,5x. So his power is between 15.625.000 18.750.000 and 22.500.000
Once again after Gohan went SSJ 2, Cell went full power. I suppose this means he went 1,25x/1,5x again. So he's smth in between 1.953.125, 2.343.750, 2.812.500 and 3.375.000.
Comparing to Gokus SSJ 2 and either a 1.25x boost, Goku was at
2.500.000.
Cell's Range ~ 2.000.000 - ~ 3.400.000
It's kind of hard to determine since there's too much range and no constant but my gut feeling tells me Cell would still have the advantage. On paper Goku could be stated weaker, but also stronger.
Depending on his decision, due to his master mma level, KI control and battle, I suppose he either knew, he couldn't obtain SSJ 2 yet, or it would not be enough anyways.
Yeah! Screw Gohan, it's Goku Time!! When's a good time for Goku? ANY TIME IS A GOOD TIME FOR GOKU.
Perfect Cell didn’t have his tail
He can outstretch it