@@jessep1257 Not really a correction, the Kienzan is a fantastic ability in reality. Even Vegeta acknowledged this when he told Nappa to dodge it. Despite vastly overpowering Krillins Powerlevel it was able to cut him like a hot knife through butter. We have seen other energy blasts shirked off like they were nothing when there is a difference in Powerlevels of that magnitude.
This may sound strange, but my biggest takeaway from this is that I want to see a version of DBZ where Nappa doesn't die. Maybe even Raditz, too. I think it'd be interesting to have a few more Saiyans around on Earth. Would they eventually attain Super Saiyan? I'd imagine so, given how training progression works in the series. If we can go from Vegita trying to blow up Earth to Vegita marrying Bulma, I don't see any good reason we can't go from Nappa and Raditz wasting half the Z Fighters to Nappa and Raditz being a part of the Z Fighters. It's not even UNUSUAL. Piccolo, Tien, AND Yamcha were all originally villains themselves. Two-thirds of Goku's friends are people who tried to kill him or conquer the planet at one point.
Whew, this was intense. I did not expect to see the story extend all the way to the appearance of Beerus, but I’m glad we got to see that too. Another great one, Carthu!
I like the idea of Vegeta training with Goku in the journey to Namek, specifically with Vegeta having a respect for Goku being a super saiyan and having a much bigger enemy to focus on
Yea cell would destroy beerus easily if he trained during the timeskip, and i mean like 1% power bullcrap He has the dna of frieza who got up to blue level in 4 months of lazy training and gohan who is slower than frieza but still fast grower and other peoples dna
The best aspect of Freeza Cell got was extreme durability. Freeza in canon has a planet blow up on him after being cut in half and blasted and lives. That's why Cell is so hard to kill. In a timeline where Freeza is not a factor in his genetics, Cell would die to the Instant Kamehameha.
Yeah but with super saiyan genes He would be as durable Since friezas cells help him survive loss of limbs and body functions But true durability comes from ki control
I almost thought Vegeta and Nappa would've stopped their attack on earth and align themselves with Goku. After all, as far as they are aware, he is the legendary super saiyan that could defeat Frieza and restore the pride of the Saiyans.
@@anthonywilliams3606 Vegeta was injured still and Goku could still beat him if he tried anything it’s not unreasonable that after talking with Goku that he would tell him about Frieza. But you’re right that his pride would make him want to train on his own to achieve the super Saiyan form. The only explanation could be that he wanted his wish on Namek to be about becoming a super Saiyan like Goku.
Another thing to add to the whole “Heart Virus was from yardrat” thing, it was also mentioned that a lot of people caught the illness and died from it, Goku was just one of the victims.
7:21 Goku: I'm sure why I spared you...Maybe deep down, I didn't want to be the person Raditz said I was...or maybe, I wanted to fight you again...I'm...not so sure Vegeta: alright then, Keep your Secrets *How I processed this scene, Not the scene itself* This made me laugh, it really was funny for some reason
The character - goku, has inspired lots of people. I like him a lot so I decided to create a statue of him using cement, if you are a fan of him then I believe you will like it!
I think it would be very interesting if there was a version of the story where none of the Super Saiyan transformations existed, this would force the characters to learn new techniques to make up the difference in strenght besides just powering up
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm Or the saiyans might learn Ikari and use the fullest potential of their great ape form and the humans SPAMMM the mafuba so much the admins come and ban hammer them
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm nah, I think if that was the case, then everyone would get the ultimate form and stack it with kaioken or something like that, and the ssg ritual would put the power of ssg to gokus base form(so it's like his base is ssg level)so they might be even more powerful woth this version
Yeah ikr lol. If this is how saiyan blue was discovered then it would be better lol because Goku would then discover that the previous form is the Super Saiayn God form rather the Blue form is the true Super Saiyan God form and the previous one is just Saiyan God. This later makes prophecy fulfilled and we'd probably see Goku and Vegeta master the Saiyan God form first and then Blue since they'd treat it like their natural progression of the saiyan forms
Always like coming back to this one, so good. Heres an idea. What if nappa was sent to earth first instead of raditz? I know it would require quite the stretch to not have him just wipe them. But when king piccolo was loose, he was leagues ahead (they didn't know how strong goku was) and they found a way.
Man! You are my favorite what-if youtuber. You explain things well and you do power scaling really good, better than a lot of other what-if youtubers. Good job.
@@Sword_Man_YT thats actually a good question... but since he got blue earlier, vegeta got blue earlier, they'd train and master it before the U6 tournament... I'd be willing to bet they're both at least as strong as SSB Kaioken x10 by the time the U6 tournament begins...
Krillin: "You let him go after he killed Gohan?" Goku: "Oh... let's not tell Chi-Chi that." Krillin: "That her son is dead?" Goku: "I have an idea." [later] Krillin, in a wig: "Hi mom. I'll be in my room studying for a month. Don't come in!" *door slams*
I'm loving most of your Full Story What If, they're well narrated, thought of, edited, and in general interesting. My fav one is the one where Goku becomes the new god of destruction. Tho Goku being meticulous, logical & in general almost a 180 of the cannon personality is concerning, i love that video because of the ending where Champa & Beerus are reunited. Can't wait for more of your videos ^^
Your vids also got me thinking what if one of the Z Fighters has knowledge of the future events, as if they're reliving a second life. Would they intensify their training, would they stop events from happening, or would it actually backfire, they become complacent & cause even more problems. Can u tell e what u think?
A few things 1. Amazing job overall, loved it from start to finish 2. How would Goku and Vegeta get back to earth if they never went to Yardrat for spirit control training? 3. Moro would definitely be different if neither of them underwent said training as we all know the ending to that
@@dw661 my fault for not being specific, I meant back to earth to fight Frieza in time, without Whis’ help, as it would’ve taken at least 20 minutes, unless Gohan is somehow able to hold him off for that long, which I don’t think Frieza would have the patience for
Apparently, this is actually gonna be in sparking zero. After looking at the trailer right, i saw goku going super during the fight against great ape vegeta because krillin died. From what ive seen, its because goku rejected to work with picollo.
I’m guessing because he revived Piccolo on Namek, he gathered the balls himself to wish the rest back. Still REALLY weird how Goku wished back Tien and Chiaotzu over his son
29:00 Cell also is gonna be a lot weaker, because he was a lot weaker than Super Piccolo, and needed to absorb a ton of humans in order to surpass him including 17 and 18. You made him str8 up fly towards the lab pretty much as soon as he arrived, no absorbing humans = definitely weaker even in perfect form.
@@ka_killers2088The Cell they faced in the original timeline came from a different timeline so it would still have Frieza's DNA. It's another important detail he missed.
@@cyber2cyke actually he would just be from the future timeline of this what if that’s how all the other what ifs by different creators function with cell as well
@@ka_killers2088 That absolutely makes no sense. That's not how the timeline works in canon. A change in timeline A doesn't affect other timelines hence why Goku remains dying to heart virus in timeline B and C despite surviving it in timeline A due to Trunks(timeline B) giving him the meds. Following this logic, a what if scenario should only apply to 1 timeline.
@@dw661 i do watch salad and i do like his content i am just saiyan (get it saiyan haha funny) i also like carthu i am not sayaing his is better or anything i just said i like his content but i also like salad's content
You're the only person that I can stand their demeanor or voice while watching what if videos. I actually enjoy your voice and commentary. Subbed and belled
I once saw a Spanish Dragon Ball What-If called "What if Goku went Super Saiyan in the Piccolo Saga when Krillin died for his first time", it was an interesting idea, I would like to see your adaptation of that. I like the way you make videos.
Honestly I would love this in a anime adaption:) this was fantastic because vegeta and goku see eye to eye. And they have genuine understanding of each other
Wait wouldn't the Resurrection F be more challenging since King Cold is still alive and frieza would have a stronger Training Partner? I'm sure King Cold could achieve Golden and maybe even Master it with frieza
@@sergiotuberquia8150 they were both mutants, and if his supposed 2nd form (or final form) was as strong as Mecha freeza, I'm sure he could achieve golden too lol
The only issue is that King Cold never showed any final form or 3rd form to begin with. It’s entirely possible that the form we saw was his version of the Final Form. If he had anything beyond the form we saw then he definitely would’ve used it against Trunks.
@@cameronharding6055 the thing is trunks didn't give him time to transform,he just rushed and attacked him. Also I'm sure he has more forms like Frieza otherwise Frieza wouldn't respect him and would have dethroned him long ago
Idk I don’t think pride could stop him from seeing that the super saiyan saved his life despite killing his own son, there is something very gritty and brutal about that. I think he would respect the mindset and character, seeing that Goku isn’t soft and worthy of his respect and partnership
My brother your what if stories are legendary you should make more Dragon Ball Z what ifs. I watch salad sayain because of you. Also thanks for the stories so far, mad entertaining!
I think with the mindset that goku has with the earlier gain of ssj and trying to ascend it every time he achieved the new form like he did with ssj2 he would immediately strive for ssgss2 during his training with beerus
jpeg of Goku while Vegeta is getting his ass whooped Oh hey there how ya doing my friend is getting beaten up by a guy who I don't even know the gender of
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Bruh I love this
It's is amazing.
Awesome
UGH SEND THE PREMIERE SOONER
AAAAAA I'M still waiting lol I wanna hear it so much
"You know Kakarot, your father created the artificial moon technique back in the day, he was a great scie- OH MY GOD KAKAROT WHY ARE YOU GOLD?"
Underrated comment
😂😂😂
Goku:
Whaaaaaaaaa-
@mcchego he is the tastiest mac and cheese sandwich ever
Goku: And you’re dead for nearly killing my SOOOOOONNNN!
The Only thing unrealistic about this is that Krillin managed to hit something with his Kienzan
For real
Krillin hit Frieza with it, though it cut off a bit of his tail. He hit Cell with it, but it did nothing.
@@The-Singularity-X01 r/woosh
@@azurepursuer8017 bruh nice
@@jessep1257 Not really a correction, the Kienzan is a fantastic ability in reality. Even Vegeta acknowledged this when he told Nappa to dodge it. Despite vastly overpowering Krillins Powerlevel it was able to cut him like a hot knife through butter. We have seen other energy blasts shirked off like they were nothing when there is a difference in Powerlevels of that magnitude.
Vegeta wasn’t capping when he said “you’re not dealing with the average saiyan warrior anymore” this time lol.
I feel like we've been here before, have we been here before?
@@danielbjerga4954 oh my god this IS happening again
*blasts vegeta* no seriously you don't know how old that got
"I'm surprised he's still talking.
Could have sworn I hit a lung."
**Cough cough**
"Oh, there it is."
Super saiyan blah blah blah I get it..Then you slayed the jabberwocky and went on the save narnia.
I love the idea of King Kai thinking "Great, he just learned my technique now to see him use it, aaaaaaannnnddd it's useless now"
Nah man why is this so true
Don’t worry, He will use it again like I don’t know 10 years 20 years
IN NEVER
still has spirit bomb
Super sain blue kioken
This may sound strange, but my biggest takeaway from this is that I want to see a version of DBZ where Nappa doesn't die. Maybe even Raditz, too. I think it'd be interesting to have a few more Saiyans around on Earth. Would they eventually attain Super Saiyan? I'd imagine so, given how training progression works in the series. If we can go from Vegita trying to blow up Earth to Vegita marrying Bulma, I don't see any good reason we can't go from Nappa and Raditz wasting half the Z Fighters to Nappa and Raditz being a part of the Z Fighters. It's not even UNUSUAL. Piccolo, Tien, AND Yamcha were all originally villains themselves. Two-thirds of Goku's friends are people who tried to kill him or conquer the planet at one point.
Does chiaotzu count?
@@Imimurwalls283 ye
DragonBall RnR by MasakoX covers the "What if Raditz didn't die" thing
Uncle Nappa
what would a ssj nappa look like without hair.
Whew, this was intense. I did not expect to see the story extend all the way to the appearance of Beerus, but I’m glad we got to see that too. Another great one, Carthu!
First
2nd
Thanks my dude!
Lol
yoooo hi rising fist :)
One issue: Goku and Krillin wouldn’t have made it to Namek, Chi-Chi would’ve killed them first.
True true, MUI Chi-Chi
Chi-Chi went kaio-ken when Marron(Blue haired) insulted her.
She went ui kaio-Ken with jirens power
I know where ur pfp is from and I hate it
@@MCPEAnthony I’m confused is there a cgi version of the show?
Vegeta: "How can you be Semi Perfect? Your either perfect or your not me, there is no grey area". XD
That's what they want you too think
that Me's stronger than me! I'LL KILL ME!
I like the idea of Vegeta training with Goku in the journey to Namek, specifically with Vegeta having a respect for Goku being a super saiyan and having a much bigger enemy to focus on
The people who made sparking zero better thank you
IT HAPENING
Yeah one of their what-if story's is Goku going super Saiyan against ozaru vegeta in the Saiyan saga. That had me sold on the game
But Krillin dies not his son
They did not they changed it
What if Goku befriended perfect cell like he did with 90% of his enemies lol, that be a cool story
God Golden Cell!!!
Yea cell would destroy beerus easily if he trained during the timeskip, and i mean like 1% power bullcrap
He has the dna of frieza who got up to blue level in 4 months of lazy training and gohan who is slower than frieza but still fast grower and other peoples dna
Cel goes Super saiyan blue... turns into cell JR lol
Petition for a what if Goku befriended Cell
@@makoytombiga3574 salad saiyan already did it and its pretty sick
Goku: You see, Vegeta, you're not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore!
OH MY GOD NO
Goku: That's Right Vegeta! You're now dealing with the Legendary Super Saiyajin! 😏
@@davianwesson7978 And your next form in the Ultra Dagwood. 😏
@@Celerott no hes a super duper insane
Oh my fuck
What if vegeta went super saiyan when nappa said: “are we their yet” for the 1000st time
Lololololol
Tfs?
@@Imimurwalls283 no shit
@@Imimurwalls283 yup
Vagetas rage breaks
"Vegeta what's the scooter say about his power level?........Vegeta?"
*Vegeta's ship blasts off at maximum speed*
“I AINT FIGHTING HIM U GOT THIS NAPPA”
Now imagine this in their abridged voices
@@Normalname-gu8joI DID 😭
Scooter lol
'THE SCOOTER.. THE SCOOTER. IT SAYS.. IT'S OVER.. 400mp-
Shit it broke. Yo dad, my scooter broke.. can you fix it..?"
The best aspect of Freeza Cell got was extreme durability. Freeza in canon has a planet blow up on him after being cut in half and blasted and lives. That's why Cell is so hard to kill. In a timeline where Freeza is not a factor in his genetics, Cell would die to the Instant Kamehameha.
yeah, so he cant in fact regenerate from a single cell, he just dies.
Yeah but with super saiyan genes
He would be as durable
Since friezas cells help him survive loss of limbs and body functions
But true durability comes from ki control
@@Xicor111man forgot about Piccolo 😂
Goku didn't go to Yardrat, no Instant Kamehameha
The core is in his head so blow his head up and he can't regenerate
I almost thought Vegeta and Nappa would've stopped their attack on earth and align themselves with Goku. After all, as far as they are aware, he is the legendary super saiyan that could defeat Frieza and restore the pride of the Saiyans.
Nappa will always be a disappointment in any timeline or multiverse
@@animeguy3238 MasakoX put a very interesting twist on Nappa. I highly recommend watching his content.
Hmm I guess I will
What is the title
@@animeguy3238 What if Nappa turned good.
Vegetas pride couldn’t take that too early in the story might commit suicide. Goku button
What?
@@iron1975 TFS
Yeah, he would never have trained with Goku, in fact he would still be out for vengeance. This Vegeta feel like DBS
@@anthonywilliams3606 Vegeta was injured still and Goku could still beat him if he tried anything it’s not unreasonable that after talking with Goku that he would tell him about Frieza. But you’re right that his pride would make him want to train on his own to achieve the super Saiyan form. The only explanation could be that he wanted his wish on Namek to be about becoming a super Saiyan like Goku.
Q: What happens to every villain prior to Beerus if Goku goes Super Saiyan early?
A: *_Splat._*
Pros: earth is fine :)
Cons: kuririn doesn't marry to n18 and satan doesn't have a gummy friend :(
Sad
@@inaciobits682 krillin: im the most powerful human and i have no wife
(Insert sad music and sad funni picture)
@David Bass what the fuck is this emoji spam
@@inaciobits682 *insert Guts theme here*
THE FACT THAT THIS GOING TO BE IN SPARKING ZERO
krillin dies instead though
@@RebelTrooperHothSTILL GONNA BE AWESOME.
@@RebelTrooperHothno child murder :
Another thing to add to the whole “Heart Virus was from yardrat” thing, it was also mentioned that a lot of people caught the illness and died from it, Goku was just one of the victims.
Goku is patient zero lol
Covid before Covid was a thing
I think goku brought it
That bat is........pati.......ent
Z.E.R.0
@@RIGHTEOUSNESSPUit's pretty obvious it's from earth. There is a medicine for it, and trunks says it wasn't made until after Goku died to the virus
I've watched all of the what if goku turned ssj in the saiyan saga and i loved all of them so i cant wait for this one
Well then you've seen this. It's just all the parts together for the people who don't like watching individual videos!
Oh yeah i have seen this, this was my favorite one
Me too
POV: your trying to study/get caught up before spring break, so instead of doing that, your watching theoretical anime fan fictions
Bro wtf
you're*
Seems like a good thing?
"You know who you are"
😳😳😳😳😳
Piccilo, kame, tein, and Yamcha: *Die*
Goku: "I sleep"
Krillin: *Dies*
Goku: "Real shit"
Not trying to mess it up but he probably snapped after so many of his friends died
Goku:
You Talkin Mad shit for someone in Ssj distance
Gohan: *dies*
goku: your dead
@inveterate 77 T e i n
@inveterate 77 what about him?
16:42
Vegeta: You see Freiza, you're not dealing with the ordinary Saiyan warrior anymore...
7:21
Goku: I'm sure why I spared you...Maybe deep down, I didn't want to be the person Raditz said I was...or maybe, I wanted to fight you again...I'm...not so sure
Vegeta: alright then, Keep your Secrets
*How I processed this scene, Not the scene itself*
This made me laugh, it really was funny for some reason
Nappa : _"Vegeta what does the scouter say about his power level?"_
Vegeta : _"It's over 9 million"_
*Nappa faints*
His power level it.........it........its over
9..........!!!
@@PardeepKumar-ot8hh Hello Mr CCC Henry
@anti-pills seller you lack comedic sense
@@YourMotherInLaw indeed
@anti-pills seller is a joke
This is one of the most well told stories yet!Keep up the work Carthu!
Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeee
The character - goku, has inspired lots of people. I like him a lot so I decided to create a statue of him using cement, if you are a fan of him then I believe you will like it!
I think it would be very interesting if there was a version of the story where none of the Super Saiyan transformations existed, this would force the characters to learn new techniques to make up the difference in strenght besides just powering up
The only problem is that it would either be kaio ken spam or zenkai abuse up until power levels don’t matter
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm Or the saiyans might learn Ikari and use the fullest potential of their great ape form and the humans SPAMMM the mafuba so much the admins come and ban hammer them
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm nah, I think if that was the case, then everyone would get the ultimate form and stack it with kaioken or something like that, and the ssg ritual would put the power of ssg to gokus base form(so it's like his base is ssg level)so they might be even more powerful woth this version
Y e a h
frieza kills goku. the end.
do "What if Goku went Super Saiyan in the Freeza Saga" next
he went ssj in the freeza saga alr
Nah a better one is "what if yamcha showed his true strength and destroyed everyone"
How do we tell him chat?
@rlm.xplode bro Idk if you are like a genius of humor or the stupidest being ever conceived.
Who's here after it got shown in Sparking! Zero
I am and I do find Sparking Zero better
Yes
We all have the same ideas huh
I've already watched every dragon ball series ever, so listening to these "what if" stories is quenching my dragon ball thirs. I love it
Have you watched drgaon ball z abridged on youtube? Pretty funny and well made
This story is weird. Krillin actually hit something with his disc
Wait what? REPOST THIS VIDEO, CARTHU DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL!
Pizza* not disc
@@ravenplayz1106 With stuffed crust!
@@SerenEirian King Kai: Gokuuuuuuuuuuuuu...
@@gangsterspongebob6020 Goku: Stuffed crust, King Kai! *_You can eat it in reverse..._*
Man, you actually did it. You made Blue seem actually relevant and interesting!
Yeah ikr lol. If this is how saiyan blue was discovered then it would be better lol because Goku would then discover that the previous form is the Super Saiayn God form rather the Blue form is the true Super Saiyan God form and the previous one is just Saiyan God.
This later makes prophecy fulfilled and we'd probably see Goku and Vegeta master the Saiyan God form first and then Blue since they'd treat it like their natural progression of the saiyan forms
They should have kept Super Saiyan God up until the Future Trunks arc when Black told Goku what he did to him & his family in his alternate timeline.
Always like coming back to this one, so good. Heres an idea. What if nappa was sent to earth first instead of raditz? I know it would require quite the stretch to not have him just wipe them. But when king piccolo was loose, he was leagues ahead (they didn't know how strong goku was) and they found a way.
Man! You are my favorite what-if youtuber. You explain things well and you do power scaling really good, better than a lot of other what-if youtubers. Good job.
The question is though, would Goku be powerful enough to defeat Hit without Kaio-Ken thanks to him unlocking Super Saiyan Blue early...
Didn't he get kaio ken after Raditz?
@@boboso4978 Yep, he still has Kaio-Ken, I'm just wondering if you would be powerful enough to defeat Hit without it.
@@Sword_Man_YT thats actually a good question... but since he got blue earlier, vegeta got blue earlier, they'd train and master it before the U6 tournament... I'd be willing to bet they're both at least as strong as SSB Kaioken x10 by the time the U6 tournament begins...
Innit bruv
@@boboso4978 in the manga a perfected super saiyan blue goku was able to defeat merged zamasu so yeah hit is phucked
This would mess up TFS continuity where Goku realizes Gohan gets to meet King Kai
"Id rather you not... however hes never met king kai before..HEY GOHAN! You're going to meet king kai!"
not having instant transmission would end them.
They didn’t do much with it in the series really
Facts
@@dw661 they should have used the IT kamehameha more(goku used it on cell)
Well well well, the foreshadowing is insane lmaoo. Can’t wait for SPARKING zero!!!
I KNOW RIGHT
I WANNA TELL THE WHOLE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS IS FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sparking zero answered this question 😭😭
3 years later big dawg
@@jamesoconnell2480 Bro predicted the future
Hey Carthu, can you do *“What If Future Gohan Denied His Limits”* that should be a good one.
yes
wowowowowowow
Carthu: "and so the first thing to teach him"
My brain: "Is how to dodge"
U mean how to DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
Lol
Wow just imagine if goku and vegeta were sent to earth together
YES
Vegeta would destroy life on earth, vegeta was evil as fuck before going to earth
@@randomguy8228 imagine both of them hitting their heads
@@yassineszn17 doubt it, baby vegeta is stronger than gohan so he would probably kill him on accident
Vegeta is older than goku so he would be alot smarter
Can’t believe you predicted one of sparking zero what if’s
I’m so happy I found this channel! Thank you for making theories accurate and entertaining
Krillin: "You let him go after he killed Gohan?"
Goku: "Oh... let's not tell Chi-Chi that."
Krillin: "That her son is dead?"
Goku: "I have an idea."
[later]
Krillin, in a wig: "Hi mom. I'll be in my room studying for a month. Don't come in!" *door slams*
Epik
I couldn’t have been the only one to read this in their abridged voices
@@Samuel-iv1wt indeed
@@Samuel-iv1wt Those are exactly the voices I heard in my mind, too.
@WystenDraco Oh damn 🤣
Mr Carthu keeps making superb content. This is one of my favorite What Ifs on this channel. Up there with What If Goku Was Born A Supersaiyan God.
I'm loving most of your Full Story What If, they're well narrated, thought of, edited, and in general interesting. My fav one is the one where Goku becomes the new god of destruction. Tho Goku being meticulous, logical & in general almost a 180 of the cannon personality is concerning, i love that video because of the ending where Champa & Beerus are reunited. Can't wait for more of your videos ^^
Your vids also got me thinking what if one of the Z Fighters has knowledge of the future events, as if they're reliving a second life. Would they intensify their training, would they stop events from happening, or would it actually backfire, they become complacent & cause even more problems. Can u tell e what u think?
Channels like yours and SaladSaiyan are perfect for binging when I'm bored. Thank you.
We gotta call you Apollo, because this what-if is about to become reality.
MUCH better thumbnail, btw, really sells the conceit of the story! And this is a classic What If in and of itself!
A few things 1. Amazing job overall, loved it from start to finish 2. How would Goku and Vegeta get back to earth if they never went to Yardrat for spirit control training? 3. Moro would definitely be different if neither of them underwent said training as we all know the ending to that
Namek wasn’t destroyed in this what if so their ship is fine and they got back safely
@@dw661 my fault for not being specific, I meant back to earth to fight Frieza in time, without Whis’ help, as it would’ve taken at least 20 minutes, unless Gohan is somehow able to hold him off for that long, which I don’t think Frieza would have the patience for
@@MrSSJ3VEGITO ohhhh! great question actually, this one. How does he manage to arrive? I assume whis takes them there soon enough tho.
I know this what-if would end fast but I have to know. What if Frieza actually trained, like he did in DBS
He takes over the universe and either stays on top freedom fighters rise up and win or fail or beerus comes and rocks his shit
@@monkeyman7332 nope he fights cell
@@monkeyman7332 Yeah @JojoGacha is right.
Crazy we’re getting this story in Sparking Zero. Curious how similar it’ll end up.
Except sparking zero had krillin dead than Gohan
I'd like to think that before passing out, vegeta says "The legendary... super... saiyan...
...
Impossible"
Apparently, this is actually gonna be in sparking zero.
After looking at the trailer right, i saw goku going super during the fight against great ape vegeta because krillin died.
From what ive seen, its because goku rejected to work with picollo.
What if kid buu actually unlocked the greater half of Grand kai's god powers that he got when buu split?
Depends either is not that much and bring gohan and Gotenks to fight along ssj3 goku OR goku sees him as a monstruos danger and ssj3 vegito kills him
16:00 I'm assuming he revived gohan back on earth and I just missed it
Yeah me too. I got confused
I’m guessing because he revived Piccolo on Namek, he gathered the balls himself to wish the rest back. Still REALLY weird how Goku wished back Tien and Chiaotzu over his son
@@munnymoore they couldn’t be brought back Kami would bring everyone else back
Gohan was revived with everyone else killed by the Saiyans. The others revived by Porunga that isn’t Piccolo were killed twice.
@@munnymoore Tien wouldn't go without Chiaotzu and Chiaotzu was killed twice (can't be rezzed with Earth Dragon Balls)
29:00 Cell also is gonna be a lot weaker, because he was a lot weaker than Super Piccolo, and needed to absorb a ton of humans in order to surpass him including 17 and 18. You made him str8 up fly towards the lab pretty much as soon as he arrived, no absorbing humans = definitely weaker even in perfect form.
And he doesn’t have frieza or colds cells
@@ka_killers2088 Correct, meaning Cell is done for. That insane potential comes from Frieza, not Gohan or any other Saiyan.
@@ka_killers2088The Cell they faced in the original timeline came from a different timeline so it would still have Frieza's DNA. It's another important detail he missed.
@@cyber2cyke actually he would just be from the future timeline of this what if that’s how all the other what ifs by different creators function with cell as well
@@ka_killers2088 That absolutely makes no sense. That's not how the timeline works in canon. A change in timeline A doesn't affect other timelines hence why Goku remains dying to heart virus in timeline B and C despite surviving it in timeline A due to Trunks(timeline B) giving him the meds. Following this logic, a what if scenario should only apply to 1 timeline.
Revisiting this What-If after Sparking Zero released. Words cannot describe how awesome the scenarios are, bringing these What-Ifs to life!
This is why carthu is my favorite db youtuber he is so good at story telling lets get him at 300 k subs
You should try Salad saiyan IMO he’s a better storyteller and doesn’t have as many potholes as Carthusian does at times
@@dw661 i do watch salad and i do like his content i am just saiyan (get it saiyan haha funny) i also like carthu i am not sayaing his is better or anything i just said i like his content but i also like salad's content
@@RandomPerson-pq8ce ah the old joke of sayin but i prefer salad just a little more
You're the only person that I can stand their demeanor or voice while watching what if videos. I actually enjoy your voice and commentary. Subbed and belled
I was 20 minutes late
Facts
Salad saiyan is good too
@@archangel5125 Salad Saiyan tends to talk a bit too fast and quietly.
@@brawlerdude555 he talks alright to me
This series was really well written Carthu!! I also make what if’s :) I hope to be as known as you one day.
Sorry bruh but it took me to reach 200K subs 3 years and then I got strikes and my channel got deleted
Dang that was awesome! I wish they made this into the show as a multiverse spin off. So cool man good job!
Sparking Zero will have this what if saga.
I once saw a Spanish Dragon Ball What-If called "What if Goku went Super Saiyan in the Piccolo Saga when Krillin died for his first time", it was an interesting idea, I would like to see your adaptation of that. I like the way you make videos.
Adolf z?
@@yeezytr Yup
Love your what if? stories! Keep up the exceptional work!
Will there be slight changes to this full story version compared to the parts versions?
Nah this is just a full story for those who like to watch the whole thing rather than individual parts
@@CarthusDojo can I request that
This is probably my 5th time watching and him going blue simply never gets old I’m legit screaming with excitement
Honestly, with Gohan's hidden rage which boosts his power, it's no wonder he didn't become super sayian. Since trauma is the key to unlocking it.
Honestly I would love this in a anime adaption:) this was fantastic because vegeta and goku see eye to eye. And they have genuine understanding of each other
This is absolutely fantastic and really fun to watch and listen. All the story points make sense and feel true to the story and the characters.
It's cool that this what if comes in sparking zero
1:10
Goku: "Mr.Popo I need the carpet!"
Popo: "Makin' toast"
: *STOMP*
Goku: "DAMN IT!"
That was thoroughly entertaining. Thanks for that. Liked and subscribed.
Wait wouldn't the Resurrection F be more challenging since King Cold is still alive and frieza would have a stronger Training Partner? I'm sure King Cold could achieve Golden and maybe even Master it with frieza
Idk about that. Frieza was a natural prodigy. A lot stronger than his dad as a kid. Might be a Broly/Paragus situation
My bro, 2nd form king cold is as strong as mecha frieza. Both of them are stated to be mutants
@@sergiotuberquia8150 they were both mutants, and if his supposed 2nd form (or final form) was as strong as Mecha freeza, I'm sure he could achieve golden too lol
The only issue is that King Cold never showed any final form or 3rd form to begin with. It’s entirely possible that the form we saw was his version of the Final Form. If he had anything beyond the form we saw then he definitely would’ve used it against Trunks.
@@cameronharding6055 the thing is trunks didn't give him time to transform,he just rushed and attacked him. Also I'm sure he has more forms like Frieza otherwise Frieza wouldn't respect him and would have dethroned him long ago
3:53 goten smiling and gohan smiling lol
I have been daydreaming about what if Goku went Super Saiyan in the Saiyan arc for the past few days and now I got this in my recommendation. Cool.
Coming back to this after Sparking Zero release date trailer
can't believe they actually made this happen in sparking zero
Who is here after the latest DBZ Sparking Zero trailer?
I guess we will now be able to explore this video's What If scenario when the game is released
So enjoyable to watch could you do a what if demon king piccolo was revived maybe he gets his true power by merging
An underrated fact is that vegeta went from hardly training to training harder than anyone in the series off pride alone
There's no way Vegeta would just remain on Goku's side if he achieved super saiyan this early
Pride
Idk I don’t think pride could stop him from seeing that the super saiyan saved his life despite killing his own son, there is something very gritty and brutal about that. I think he would respect the mindset and character, seeing that Goku isn’t soft and worthy of his respect and partnership
23:47 he totally saw it coming!😂😂😂
Yardrat missing in lots of these what if videos really takes away one of Goku's most OP abilities
I'm so glad for this extra long video.
yes, i've been waiting for this to start.
lemme grab some popcorn
Ohhh I can’t wait to see this in sparking zero
My brother your what if stories are legendary you should make more Dragon Ball Z what ifs. I watch salad sayain because of you. Also thanks for the stories so far, mad entertaining!
Yay i have been waiting for the full story
one thing i’ve always thought about was what if kami could unlock power like guru could
You should make part-5! I really find this story interesting!
Carthu you maniac, you added this what if to sparking zero
King Kai 0.02 seconds after Goku becomes Super Saiyan: WHY DID I EVEN TEACH HIM THE KAIOKEN?!
I think with the mindset that goku has with the earlier gain of ssj and trying to ascend it every time he achieved the new form like he did with ssj2 he would immediately strive for ssgss2 during his training with beerus
23:49
That death stare is just Terrifying
jpeg of Goku while Vegeta is getting his ass whooped
Oh hey there how ya doing my friend is getting beaten up by a guy who I don't even know the gender of
BRO THIS WAS AWESOME! Did you keep it going?!