The Sequel Episode - Revenge of the Combat Patrols
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On this week’s episode, Brad and Eric do a Live Episode with the Patrons, revisiting many episodes from this year, addressing comments and giving their updates on the topics. Legends say this was a seamless recording without any distractions or off-topics. No harm was made to any editors during the recordings.
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Merch is on sale!
02:10 - Must Have Paints II: Electric Boogaloo
04:48 - 2 Factions 2 Future
06:49 - Each Faction’s All I Want for Christmas
10:18 - Each Faction’s Knight Rises
12:12 - 40K Apps II
15:24 - Episode III: Revenge of the Combat Patrols
22:15 - Fabius Bile In the Multiverse of Madness
35:40 - Don’t miss out on Bonus Episodes!
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The admech combat patrol feels like it should have been a boarding patrol counterpart.
Exactly, it fills in a side of ad mech, more like an overpriced booster pack, but adds greater diversity along side a combat patrol as a compliment, and in an ideal world, priced at £60(even that is pricey for the strenght of the units) . Nothing in that new combat patrol could stand on its own against other existing ones, it would get wiped out by the dark angels CP box alone, so is it going to even face Drukhari, aeldari ect in a CP match up?
Except it has “jump packs” and “cavalry” units that weren’t allowed in boarding patrol at the time.
@@falsehero2001 Fair enough, could always hope for electro-priests, but otherwise I think their last boarding patrol had all their infantry besides characters and servitors.
34:35 Eric’s perfect pronounciation of the name Tchaikovsky makes me he might be more into classical ballet than the average 40k nerd…
Nah it's one of the easier slavic names to pronounce
The way they price their stuff is just nuts. It's expensive to begin with, it's not based on the amount of plastic in the box, it's not based on the amount of points in the box, it's all the same across the board regardless of how different the products are... it's so insane. A box of 3 Eliminators costs the same as a box of 10 Intercessors. 5 Flayed Ones are 60 dollars for something like 50 points in models. The Admech CP costs the same as the Custodes and are so different it's laughable. Nothing makes sense beyond "this is what we think we can get away with."
It really is nothing short of despicable. I'm new to the hobby, but I'm genuinely scared that 5-man boxes are going to be the norm in the near future.
“This is what we think we can get away with” is capitalism at work… and I hate it
Smart of them to base prices around a more or less arbitrary point system they have 100% control over, rather than anything that could be measured objectively like the availability and manufacture cost of the plastic
@@SadistichippoNobody asked
Indeed, i have not played a single game of 10th only for the sole reason, that my army points have been so harshly butcherd that i don't want to spend a tone of money to get back to the level of points i was or i aimed for. My Sisters are only 800 points right now and i wanted to add 1 or 2 characters to boost the SoBs... but 32,50€ for a Dialogus which is worth 30 points? Hell no. After the most expensive podcast episode i have even less desire to play 10th, since 3 of my 4 armies are in the top 5 most expensive ones... the only one thats not is my mish mash of Raven Guard containing of some cool models and a whole bunch of "mini of the month" minis and they are right now worth more points then my Soros.... ffs.
Eric just effing nailed Tchaikovsky's name, dead on the head. Like, it's not even close enough, this is exactly how it's pronounced.
This love letter for the skavens was really emotional for me, ngl.
Your silly rats are valid and so are your feelings about them. This is a cheese safe space.
@@maiapetersen9092 Thanks thanks
What I got out of it was that AdMech are the real 40K Skaven. Literal tons of them around and have high tech of dubious capability that neither can explain coherently to another sapient being.
imagine if Skaven joined 40k as a part of tau.
Pancreas No Work made a good argument for the Imperium being Space Skaven
Brief note: my Tyranid Wishlist item is Gaunt squads that either have Torrent weapons or just are meant to kamikazi and explode
That would actually be great for horde mode enemies too!
Something like that would probably help the Crusher Stampede detachment a bit honestly.
Tyranid banelings would be awesome!
So kinda like a gaunt varient of spore mines, as a tyranid player I like this idea
You thought it was a sequel to the combat patrol episode, but actually it was a sequel to the shrinkflation episode.
I'm honestly impressed by GW's ability to make the Admech patrol even worse. I didn't expect that if I'm honest seeing as it was already one of the worst (both for regular 40k value and for Combat Patrol gameplay wise).
The 12th edition admech combat patrol will just be a single squad of skitarii, mark my words
No that’s too much plastic, they need to save money in order to “keep the company running” and make it a single character
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle lol imagine. And regular skitarri are sold in pairs of 2 for 30 bucks (i hear gw execs moaning thinking of this)
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle”We’ve heard your issues with Skitarii, and we have fixed them! They’re now worth more points and are more viable! Unfortunately, the stat changes have affect the plastics and now we have to increase the prices of the entire Ad Mech range to compensate”
I appreciate the irony of a guy with a Thousand Sons avatar saying "reading books is for nerds."
Imagine doing a combat patrol game as admech against your custodes friend
funny enough, ad-mech might win. custodes fields only part of the box, 2 5girl squads, one with bolters and one with swords, a captain (with sword), and either bikes or guradians (with a very weirde weapon combo).
Thank you for a value packed episode, unlike that Ad-mech box. Cannot wait for next week, thank you to all involved.
New dark angels and ork combat patrols coming spring 2024 🎉
Oh my god I pray the ork box is better than the current one.
I should probably grab that DA box before it disappears then 🤔
@@CatCraineI got one for deathwatch since it ends up working for making kill teams while giving you some good basics.
Chaos tooo
Where was this announced I haven't heard anything on new CP but it makes sense though.
I'm biased because I have about 6k points of Night Lords, but I can'r recommend the Night Lords omnibus enough. There's a hint of bolter porn, but it's hands down the best example of humanizing the Traitor Legions.
BROTHERS! EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS GOING TO DIE
I heard bolter fire!
Alpha legion are pretty humanized. It's only the one human, but still.
I have to say, if you are looking for a book for book club I cannot recommend reading (listening) Assassinorum: Kingmaker. Its got a multitude of assassins. knights, chaos stuff, politics and drama, and is just super well written. 10/10 I liked it almost as much as the Infinite and the Divine.
We've both read it! It was part of the initial vote for the first book club, but I&D soundly defeated all other options in the polls.
There actually is a book about the fall of Cadia already. Its called *Cadia Stands* and the fall of Cadia was the main plot. Sure, it was from the perspective of characters other than Creed and Abaddon, but thats how Guard books usually work.
Eric just being so quiet in the beginning after Brad's comment on his birthday suit 😂
now, the question is, Would Skaven explaining their tech make more or less sense than ork mekboy explaining their tech?
Admech might be setting the new record for most amount of Ls in a single edition. Sucks, I love the way they look but I can't buy them because they're both prohibitively expensive, and hilariously bad.
Its not even like you can make do, the entire army rule just doesn't translate well to how they should work and I do not understand why they were written that way
the new detachments are also awful @@smalwex
Can’t wait for the sequel to this episode. Sequelception.
Hey could y’all do a “fixing admech” episode where you analyze the problems to them and how gw could fix them. Their tied for my favorite imperium faction
Already getting my GSC combat patrol come Christmas
Praise the 4 armed omnisiah
I actually super recommend the space wolf books. At least the first one. Its pretty interesting because the majority of the book is written from the perspective of Rangar blackmane before he becomes a marine and Fenris is a like backwater viking planet where warring tribes fight over what small strips of land are there. You get interesting snipets of Ragnar not understanding what a gun is and describing the weapon of a marine they're taking across the sea as strange talisman just before a deafening boom and blinding flash it plups the brain of a sea dragon which of course must make the marine a great sorceror 😂.
The more you kept talking about why Imperium wasn't Scaven, the more I was convinced in the opposite 🤣
^This. Trying to say I'm stupid for thinking the Imperium are like the Skaven only makes me conflate the two more.
Enjoy your engagement, Brad.
Holy shit, the editing around the nude joke slayed me. So good.
You truly are a Thousand Sons Exalted Sorcerer Brad. Because you delt me Psychic damage at 8:24.
Maybe a swarm unit that blows up on contact with an enemy?
BANELINGS!
@@thepoorhammerpodcast Exactly ! My thoughts were what haven't they imported from the Zerg?
Or even just some bugs that curle and roll across the battlefield. Maybe a centipede style bug that rapidly closes in as an armoured wheel then uncurles to bite ya or spit fire or drop a grenade it was curled around.
That pilot seems solid. I'm looking forward to the official launch of the Poorhammer spin-off One Piece podcast. Do you have a name for it? Romance Pawn, maybe?
Solely Singleton.
Feel like the issue with skaven in 40K is that the factions key points are kind of being taken up by other factions.
Crazy inventors with ludicrous weapons and machines: orks
Massive empire just bellow everyone’s feet waiting for it’s time: necrons
Impossibly large horde: nids
The slinking threat just beyond the shadows: GSC
Impossibly bad conditions and unimaginable suffering as a part of daily life: most factions 99% of the time
The only things that would be uniquely theirs if ported to 40K are having their own god, being drug addicts, and being rat men. Almost everything else would fall into “oh like faction X?”
Tchaikovsky was pronounced correctly....can confirm.
So something I realised the Ad Mech box is that to play Combat Patrol you have to build the units as they are on the box.
Which means, with exception of the Arc Rifle and Plasma Caliver two of the Vanguard have, the entire box hasn't got a ranged weapon that shoots further than 18 inches.
A Shooting army btw.
I started using new recruit after your episode. And so glad you suggested it, i love using it
the thumbnail did not have to be THAT INTENSE for this
My guess is that it's a reference to The Matrix Reloaded film, which has that scene where Neo stops a ton of bullets.
"Rhinos are free, but this hat is not!"
I'd love to see a episode going over the combat patrol format and the CP boxes in regards to the format and just your general views on it.
A book recommendation from me is another book by Mike Brooks, Huron Blackheart: Master of the Maelstrom. A shorter novel on one of the more underutilized character in 40k imo. Pretty good, gives a different view of what being the head of a group of CSM is like, with all of the internal politics and logistical challenges you would expect from basically being pirates in space. It's like a 6 hour listen, so if you have a particularly long trip for this upcoming holiday season you may be able to knock it out by the time you get back home.
Oh I was absolutely going to the previous episode to see if they already did that one, so I'll co-sign that suggestion. My absolute favorite part of that book is how it expertly shows how effortlessly tempting the Chaos gods are in ways that are surprisingly subtle and yet it still shows what an absolutely TERRIBLE idea it is to fall for them.
Glad to see you liked AK paints. If there's something we spaniards do right is hobby stuff.
Yes the best day of my week! The a day poorhammer episode comes out!
I've played AdMech since they released and, man, GW has made it very hard to keep loving my faction.
Have you two considered a way to make stuff for your European fans? The shipping just kills it for most of us
Big agree
Remembering that Brad listens to audiobooks and says he's going to listen to Fall of Cadia: I'm so sorry. The book is probably fine, but I tried listening to it and the voice they chose to use for Trazyn and Cawl might be a dealbreaker for you. (The Fabius trilogy's Trazyn wasn't my favorite but it worked well enough. This one turned him into a Dalek and it hurts)
As far as numerous expendable bodies and sneaky tactics, skaven do exist in 40k. they're called genestealers. Now I need big electric genestealer doom-wheels.
Fabius bile and night lords is the 2 best chaos trilogies in my opinion.
Ninjon is amazing
"The skaven celebrate different parts, like the religious part, the tech part, and the warmongering part"
So the Sisters of Battle, the Ademch, and the entire imperium?
You guys have very quickly become one of my main 'two guys with a youtube podcast' I listen to every weel
Fall of Cadia was the old The Gathering Storm campaign. I just listened to a fan reading of all the lore into basically an audio book. on youtube there are a couple good ones.
Kronan the Kunnin by @Baldermort of Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer 40k is also a lot of fun. It's not a novel, but a collection of stories written and narrated by Baldermort, who has an incredible voice and pen.
Where can you find bonus episodes on patreon? Or do you already need to be a patron to see them?
if you're a $3 or up patron you have access to a master patron rss feed that should include every single audio episode we've ever produced starting at the end of Season... 3? of Solely Singleton. This feed is where all the bonus content is posted between recording seasons (sometimes mid season too.)
It should be completely backward unlocked when you sign up, giving you dozens of hours of stupid bonus footage (some is extremely low quality by our modern standards, but it's there if you want to listen to it all.)
New recruit just needs a phone app. I build my lists on phone almost exclusively.
Tanks for the follow up.
I’m watching a channel named POORhammer, what makes you think I can afford a $60 pair of sweatpants 😂
Tbh, I feel like GSC could very easily be the skaven-like faction if given a bit more attention and love
I feel like if you wanted to include the skaven, they’d have to be some kind of Web-way entity, just so they can keep their far reach and hidden nature- but that would require GW to care about the Web-way beyond just being a plot device
For books i can absolutely recommend dead men walking. It's an awesome death korps of krieg novel that just got an audio book.
Yay! More bookclub!
Can't wait for Brad to start Nighlords
Another great episode, can't wait to watch the sequel episode sequel next year :)
Imagine: you're just posting your innocent opinion and the podcast host takes like 2 minutes to tear your opinion apart
I've been using New Recruit since you reviewed it first time. Very happy with it, and seeing the constant updates making it better is really encouraging. Enough to make me go paid sub on it.
Genefather is Bile meets Cawl and great
Listening to your podcast while building my first army is just the only way I ever want to build armies. Love your banter and blunt yet playful "this is what is wrong or right".
Bets on the redacted codex? the rumours are emperors children or agents of the imperium, my bet is it's jut one of the normal codexes but they're building hype lol
I absolutely love you guys for your general humor that you bring to warhammer, making me aware of the awesome new recruit app and inventing the balls to the wall fun of swarm mode. Cheers!
They could of added the ElectroPriest in the Admech combat patrol, it would have been at least a new to box unit, and one that hasnt been seen in a bit.
If you haven't read the Night Lords books yet, then you don't need any other recommendation. The omnibus is extremely good.
I love where that skaven bit went
HECK YEAH, glad to see this sequel today
I've heard a few channels by or talking to folks who used to work for GW suggest that the company has a significant left-hand-not-talking-to-right-hand issue. The AdMech combat patrol feels like it fits into that, where you have things being locked in for production nine months ago based on a particular production and shipping cost target - and then the rules team making the models less valuable as they scramble to band-aid a balance problem.
Also, I never listen to audiobooks because they put me in a position of either I miss important details and don't know what's going on, or I have to sit around doing nothing except listen to it. Also, they take *forever* - I can read much faster than audiobook narrators do, because reading aloud is *always* slower. The only real advantage I've ever come up with is I could listen to it whilst waiting for the bus in winter - assuming I could hear it over all the 18-wheelers roaring past. So I'd much rather just, y'know, read. Although I suppose if I ever run out of TH-cam documentaries/podcasts to listen to whilst I paint an audiobook might fill that niche. I know all y'all don't actually care about my entertainment choosing process, but this is how parasocial engagement works.
After getting used to it I really like new recruit. It is very practical if you build a lot of lists.
I just finished the Bile's trilogy last week, and it was simply amazing, never felt lost or bored, story point was clear and great
by far my fav 40k book for now
Pleasantly surprised to see Dresden Files in my 40k stuff!
You hurt me saying that harmony is Horus heresy. That’s when abby nuked the third legion and first formed the black legion by beating the cloned Horus
I recently found some omnibus from a thrift store. The blood angels, ultra marines and imperial guard. I decided to read the imperial guard one first and it is really fun and really the first warhammer book I've read. I've been a fan of warhammer for a while but this was the kick that got me to start reading the books instead of the wiki and youtube videos.
Still gonna suggest Reaper paints as a solid option for really good quality paints, especially their metallic paints. They've got a rose gold that's just gorgeous and works great for painting up super special guys in your armies. gives just the right amount of "shoot me first" look to a model.
Absolutely read the night lords trilogy! It's incredible
I do have to say, as someone who never intends to play ad-mech, that box is perfect for me. It has every model ive ever wanted for D&D, and im here for it.
The fall of cadia was kinda covered in battlefield gothic armada.
For sequels... please do more like your Zero to Hero show. It just so happened that when I saw the episode about starting Tau, I had just recently bought the Tau boarding patrol w/ Farsight. It was great hearing some ideas to effectively buying for and building up a nice starter army to jumpstart my collection.
Or the episode showing off Brad's Drukhari got me pumped to finish painting some Incubi. I would seriously be excited for every single faction to get it's own episode in time if you guys are ever out of ideas for content
for the tyranids ive always liked the idea of a giant bug, based off an actual insect like a tyranid giant centipede or something, would be a nightmare to paint but would look pretty cool.
So, a Tyranid version of the Necron Canoptek Tomb Sentinel/Stalker?
One of the giant tank bugs from starship troopers lol
@@vast9467 mortar bug
"Reading books is for nerds." - Tzeentch Chaos Lord, 2023
I personally use the 40k app because it helps my brain to have pictures of the units so I can better visualize the army, but I then immediately recreate it on new recruit so it is actually usable when playing
I've always thought gsc were a better skaven analogue
Also hordey, they're tunnelers, their existence is a conspiracy
The tech certainly isn't there, but I think they have far more overlap than imperium, I never understood that
Prophet was such an amazing book and I only found out about it because of you, thank you, you lil warhammer gremlins make good suggestions
If you read one 30k book read Know No Fear. Self contained and amazing. You go from 40k where Ultramar is 8 worlds and Calth is uninhabitable on the surface, to 30k where Calth is the shining paradise of the 500 worlds and just think... oh shit. And then the strike cruiser accelerates to lightspeed in atmosphere.. and it's like ohhhhh shiiiiiit
been using new recruit exclusively since you guys pointed it out to me
"Before it gets worse" looks at my death guard combat patrol thinking, how much- then I realized its Gw don't tempt it
gw: you guys thought the guard box was bad and not worth it? get a load of this
This title is just great, thumbnail amazing. Honestly the right kind of clickbait lololol
Y’all shoul read the watchers of the throne series, it’s really good.
fun episode idea you two craft your own combat patrols for every faction.
Strongly recommend Mark Of Faith if you're interested in a Sisters of Battle book.
knowing they are likely to refresh all the combat patrols for the armies when their codex comes out. i feel inclined to buy several copies of the GSC CP now as it was an army i had an interest in getting into and i feel like they are likely to just gut the value of it when the codex rolls around
The hopium for the admech box is that they boost points and datasheets to make admech feel like a proper army, but who knows really it's GW.
In case you ever read comments on month old videos: the incomplete trilogies 'Bequin' and 'The End and The Death' are extremely good so far. If you like being teased by cliff-hangers, read them now. Otherwise look out for their endings to come out and read them. TEATD volume 3 is in a few weeks I think.
I have the special edition version of Fall of Cadia and while I haven't read the book actual yet, I've read the little bonus diary of a guardsman included in it and that little book tells a worthy story all its own. I have faith the main book is gonna be good, I just gotta get through the rest of my book backlog.
1:05 best timing joke yet! I call this the T2 of episodes:)
I am building a list on New Recruit as I watch this. LOL
I highly recommend "Kingslayer" Loved reading a book focused on assasins and imperial knights.
God admech looks soo cool but christ do they get shafted more than the public toaster in the main cathedral on mars
It's very rare a comment makes me choke on my drink. Congrats, you got me.
@@thepoorhammerpodcast I'm so happy my first comment on one of ya'lls videos did this I'm now framing this cx
Get your genestealer cult combat patrol now before it gets changed out if you plan to cause that thing is worth it
My personal missing / future faction is “” Chaos Cults””. In books like the Eisenhorn trilogy you have single human rogue psychers dealing massive blows to sectors, aristocratic families secretly owning a demon in the basement, and rogue inquisitors controlled by godlike demons. Meanwhile the bowels of chaos ships are filled with highly unique mutants and followers, there are even mutants that are practically beast men, hooves, goat heads and horns etc, with laz guns. Abbadon makes a habit of arming and recruiting the imperiums prison worlds as an opening gambit inside a sector to gain millions of fodder units. It seems to me in books regular humans going rogue is a massive problem, and it would add so many wrinkles to the imperium in contrast. You could actually see the power on offer within chaos, how it could be your liberation or your doom if you learn its secrets as just an average citizen. The imperium is trying to maintain control constantly on so many levels, it would make them much more interesting by contrast. So yeah have an anti imperial guard ! Chaos Cults! Horde army with witches and warlock psycher units, unique demons as elites, mutant hordes, corrupted guard, warped servators, as special troop units : D heck maybe they even have just a single souped up chaos marine lording over them, when you see a single CSM in the eisenhorn trilogy it’s an “ oh shit” moment. All in all as it stands we have about… 3 options for cultists if you’re being generous, and if you have a warlock it’s a warlock in power armor. Let me have a liberated astropathic choir bring down meteors from the sky dang it !
Didn’t even mention dark mechanicum. Every dark mech priest has a robot skull for a head, a knife legged spider body, or way too many arms :p also also chaos navigators battle out with everyone else much more. Some of them are just melting people with their third eyes, some are gestalt consciousnesses plugged into every system of their ship
I am happy to announce that I will be replacing my current 3D printer for an even bigger machine this cyber Monday. I have saved soooooo much money by buying a printer. I can’t imagine how much money I have saved by using it.