I’d have to say Druid, but also wanted to mention how wonderful and useful your videos have been both world and character building, my current character was even based entirely off of your Anton Lavey video
Personal I tried the blood hunter class and it is pretty metal but if I got with 5e I would say the paladin. Also I have a challenge for you that you might be interested. Reply at your earliest convenience.@dicetry
My favorite is bard, but I usually start with a couple levels of rogue, take the criminal background, and focus on stealth, deception, perception, persuasion, investigation, and sleight of hand. I either use college of lore or college of whispers. I like "speak with dead", "animate dead", "charm person", "suggestion", "disguise self", "minor image", and "major image" on my spell list. I'm not 100% evil, though, and use my skills to help the less fortunate. I'm thinking my bards tend more towards blue/black or blue/black/white. The white comes out in their loyalty to the party and desire to help people my bards feel empathy for. Maybe that's Blue/Black/Red?
I've loved this series. It has helped me think in new ways about my characters and, in my opinion, made them more fun to play with. I had a Gloomstalker Ranger/Rouge character who had Sultai colors. They were an assassin whose only priority was following the orders of their clan (which was itself an organization based on the colors of Esper), whatever they may be. From Blue, they drew a desire for precision, information, and a cleanly carried out plan. They were always planning, both for how best to keep everyone in the party safe and strong, and how to take them out when their clan gave them orders to. Black worked interestingly with them, as it was less about personal ambition or power, and more about allowing their clan to rise to greater strength so that they would in turn have access to greater resources and information. This, paired with blue, made a character who had no qualms with knowingly doing terrible things, as long as it furthered the goals of them and their clan. Green was definitely the weakest of the three colors in this character, but still important for both character and story reasons. It was the color of adaptability, and of taking inspiration and knowledge from all things. It was a reminder that we were all, in one way or another, bound my natural law, and it was up to them to find out how best to operate within these forces outside of their control. Paired with the other colors, this made a character that both knew to account for factors beyond their control and to draw power from any source to gain an advantage in completing their goals. I knew when I made this character and spoke with the DM that their story would likely end one of two ways: either they would turn on the party, take out at least one, and become an antagonist under the DM's control, or they would fail their mission and die by the hands of those they betrayed. However, a third outcome I did not anticipate happened. The party's barbarian developed a brother-like bond with my character, and it started to cause doubt to form in them. Even when they did finally betray the party and fail to take them out, the barbarian was hurt by the betrayal, but still cared for them and even pleaded their case after swearing an oath together to not keep anymore secrets from each other. And that's when things started to change. Due to story shenanigans, they were reworked from a Gloomstalker Ranger/Rouge into a Samurai Fighter/Druid. As these changes were taking place and I was playing the character, I realized that their motivation was different now. It took a while to develop, but their colors changed from Sultai to Temur. The path they walked down was no longer motivated by fear and personal ambition, but by an intense passion for the loved ones they traveled with and an appreciation and commitment to the beauty of the natural world around them, a world they now fully believed was worth fighting for. Where as before Green was simply a resource and a warning, it now forms and understanding that the one is part of the whole. They know that someday their time will come, and even though it's kinda sad, they are okay with it. But until that day comes, they will live the best life they can so that, hopefully, when their story inevitably ends, they will have made a positive impact on the stories of others.
As a guy who is Temur through and through, I love your character and the character arc they've had. Hope your campaign went/is going well and godspeed.
Ive been wanting to change dnd to color system. And this helped my players a lot. A jeskai artificer, a blue white warlock, and a izzet cleric all came out of this.
So, I hardly subscribe to anything on TH-cam -- but after watching a couple of your videos, and your insights into character creation, and this "colour pie" (which I'd never heard of).... I subscribed to your channel. Thanks for the thoughtful content about something so many of us are passionate about.
Im playing a ranger (hunter 7 x 3 scout rogue) who's a biologist and botanist. Theyre the supporting sniper of the group using poisons and plant magic to restrain or debilitate. I mark them as True Neutral Golgari due to the ruthlessness that poisons take to use, their reverence to the natural cycle of life and death, and all that fun that comes of it. :)
I really do agree w/ the general idea of using the color pie rather than alignment simply bc alignment is *so* restrictive & bc color pie ties into a lot of themes that are quite resonant for western audiences. My thing is that reworking the lore & mythology of a dnd cmpaign to fit a color pie alignment over the 9=part alignment would necessitate basically rebuilding the whole system from the ground up... Anyway, follow for the next project when I rebuild the entirity of the dnd 5e system to accommodate a color pie alignment system. /hj
Good catch, I had it in the original video, but forgot to put it in this one. I fixed that, but here is the link for ya. Fil Kearney's Mana System www.dmsguild.com/product/314205/Color-Mana-Spell-Points-COREKT-BUNDLE
Bards will forever be white black to me. The use of their charisma to build up or manipulate others are the hallmarks of the dichotomy between white and black. U can add red if u want but the perfectionism most bards would like to attribute to blue could just as easily fit into ambitions of black. Plus any class that seeks to seduce any/every npc is decidedly black
My take on the class colors Artificer: Colorless Bard: Red & Green Barbarian: Red & Black Cleric: White & Black Druid: Blue & Green Monk: White & Blue Paladin: White & Red Ranger: White & Green Rogue: Blue & Black Sorcerer: Blue & Red Warlock: Black & Green Wizard+ Fighter: Five colors
i love this! im making a character for a bg3 playthrough, i took the test and got UW. Not sure if i should make a character based on this or go off the rails, theres so much choice i love it!
My sorcerer is jeskai. From blue he strives for mastery and perfection in his powers. From red he's passionate and excited about mastering his powers he also revels in his power especially when he learns a new skill. He's white mainly because he has a 1 level dip in order cleric. So he respects laws and thinks they are needed to keep order and peace. The discipline of white also helps him firther his mastery even more.
I was wondering if it's possible for the classes of the World of Warcraft: Warrior, Rogue, Hunter, Mage, Shaman, Paladin, Preist, Warlock, Death knight, Monk, Druid, Demon hunter, and Evoker?
Warrior - Red/blue they get rage - red and blue as discipline. Warlock clearly black Wizard - blue Monk - blue/green Paladin - white/blue Priest - white Shaman - Red/green Druid - green Evoker - Red/black DK - Black/Red That's my opinion, but they may hold additional colors
Been trying to break the colors down into 1 word bites that summarize for my players. So far I have Black = egocentric, White = altruistic, Red = Zeal, and Blue = Discernment. Having trouble with Green. Can’t seem to get a word that encompasses all of it without cutting huge portions
@@DiceTry Due to WOTC's current choices I've recently decided to make the switch. It's really exciting to be learning a new game again and see what their take on all the classic classes is, as well as the new ones they have. Sure the fighter and the barbarian will likely be the same as your video, but where does a psychic lie? Or an inventor. It's easy to say blue, but does that really cover all they can be?
So...im pausing the video to make this comment. About the rogue and the color green? Maybe...blue, black, green...I like a mix of the ideas of robin hood and a Tinker from King killer chronicles. Steal a bushel of apples, leave a pot. Steal a pot or two, leave a fishing net. Steal a couple fishing nets, leave a goat. Run off with a couple of goats, leave a sword and shield. Little bit of balance and hopefully solve a need of the former owners...with a finders fee of course.
I'm planning a green/blue bard (a merfolk from Ixalan) and while this hasn't been mentioned as a combination for bards here, I like to think of her as more of a "shaman with an instrument". She's a storyteller for her people and wants to preserve their stories, especially after Phyrexia ran roughshod over them, and also specializes in controlling the battlefield by disabling the enemies. The color combination is called "Simic", but I don't like to call her that - because she's almost the reverse of a Simic. She's mainly green, and uses blue as a tool, instead of the other way around.
I don't think white is always good and pure. I think white can also be a color of tyranny. I also don't think red or black is always evil, selfish and evil. It sounds like you are a mono white player, or possibly bias to white or blue.
But seriously, look up the color pie chart for mtg... black inner ring is "selfishness" "omnipotence" "paranoid " outer ring is "parastism" and "ammorality" While white inner ring is "unncreative" "peace" and "law" while the outer ring is "morality" and "order" now that could absolutely lead to tyranny like you say, but for many paladins and clerics this fits perfectly. I think he's done a pretty good breakdown... but what do I know I'm a green player.
I don't know if I've missed any videos, but I'm curious about your opinion of the Shaman being the Iconic Red spellcaster; also how the Red Shaman would/should look like as a DnD class.
So which was your favorite class?
I’d have to say Druid, but also wanted to mention how wonderful and useful your videos have been both world and character building, my current character was even based entirely off of your Anton Lavey video
Oh, very cool, I always love hearing how my videos help
Personal I tried the blood hunter class and it is pretty metal but if I got with 5e I would say the paladin. Also I have a challenge for you that you might be interested. Reply at your earliest convenience.@dicetry
I will forever and always say the monk. I am a Bruce Lee fan. Discipline and self-improvement are my two life ideals.
My favorite is bard, but I usually start with a couple levels of rogue, take the criminal background, and focus on stealth, deception, perception, persuasion, investigation, and sleight of hand. I either use college of lore or college of whispers. I like "speak with dead", "animate dead", "charm person", "suggestion", "disguise self", "minor image", and "major image" on my spell list. I'm not 100% evil, though, and use my skills to help the less fortunate.
I'm thinking my bards tend more towards blue/black or blue/black/white. The white comes out in their loyalty to the party and desire to help people my bards feel empathy for. Maybe that's Blue/Black/Red?
The funniest quote by my wild magic sorcerer: "You know what I about to do. I don't."
I've loved this series. It has helped me think in new ways about my characters and, in my opinion, made them more fun to play with.
I had a Gloomstalker Ranger/Rouge character who had Sultai colors. They were an assassin whose only priority was following the orders of their clan (which was itself an organization based on the colors of Esper), whatever they may be.
From Blue, they drew a desire for precision, information, and a cleanly carried out plan. They were always planning, both for how best to keep everyone in the party safe and strong, and how to take them out when their clan gave them orders to.
Black worked interestingly with them, as it was less about personal ambition or power, and more about allowing their clan to rise to greater strength so that they would in turn have access to greater resources and information. This, paired with blue, made a character who had no qualms with knowingly doing terrible things, as long as it furthered the goals of them and their clan.
Green was definitely the weakest of the three colors in this character, but still important for both character and story reasons. It was the color of adaptability, and of taking inspiration and knowledge from all things. It was a reminder that we were all, in one way or another, bound my natural law, and it was up to them to find out how best to operate within these forces outside of their control. Paired with the other colors, this made a character that both knew to account for factors beyond their control and to draw power from any source to gain an advantage in completing their goals.
I knew when I made this character and spoke with the DM that their story would likely end one of two ways: either they would turn on the party, take out at least one, and become an antagonist under the DM's control, or they would fail their mission and die by the hands of those they betrayed. However, a third outcome I did not anticipate happened. The party's barbarian developed a brother-like bond with my character, and it started to cause doubt to form in them. Even when they did finally betray the party and fail to take them out, the barbarian was hurt by the betrayal, but still cared for them and even pleaded their case after swearing an oath together to not keep anymore secrets from each other. And that's when things started to change.
Due to story shenanigans, they were reworked from a Gloomstalker Ranger/Rouge into a Samurai Fighter/Druid. As these changes were taking place and I was playing the character, I realized that their motivation was different now. It took a while to develop, but their colors changed from Sultai to Temur. The path they walked down was no longer motivated by fear and personal ambition, but by an intense passion for the loved ones they traveled with and an appreciation and commitment to the beauty of the natural world around them, a world they now fully believed was worth fighting for. Where as before Green was simply a resource and a warning, it now forms and understanding that the one is part of the whole. They know that someday their time will come, and even though it's kinda sad, they are okay with it. But until that day comes, they will live the best life they can so that, hopefully, when their story inevitably ends, they will have made a positive impact on the stories of others.
As a guy who is Temur through and through, I love your character and the character arc they've had. Hope your campaign went/is going well and godspeed.
Ive been wanting to change dnd to color system. And this helped my players a lot. A jeskai artificer, a blue white warlock, and a izzet cleric all came out of this.
So, I hardly subscribe to anything on TH-cam -- but after watching a couple of your videos, and your insights into character creation, and this "colour pie" (which I'd never heard of).... I subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for the thoughtful content about something so many of us are passionate about.
Im playing a ranger (hunter 7 x 3 scout rogue) who's a biologist and botanist. Theyre the supporting sniper of the group using poisons and plant magic to restrain or debilitate. I mark them as True Neutral Golgari due to the ruthlessness that poisons take to use, their reverence to the natural cycle of life and death, and all that fun that comes of it. :)
I really do agree w/ the general idea of using the color pie rather than alignment simply bc alignment is *so* restrictive & bc color pie ties into a lot of themes that are quite resonant for western audiences. My thing is that reworking the lore & mythology of a dnd cmpaign to fit a color pie alignment over the 9=part alignment would necessitate basically rebuilding the whole system from the ground up...
Anyway, follow for the next project when I rebuild the entirity of the dnd 5e system to accommodate a color pie alignment system. /hj
Love this series, I'm trying to build out a Golgari character but still figuring out the class. I feel lit leans towards Warlock or Druid
Circle of spores druid would be dope.
I don't see the link to the alternative magic system in the description. Can someone drop it? 9:35 ?
Good catch, I had it in the original video, but forgot to put it in this one. I fixed that, but here is the link for ya. Fil Kearney's Mana System
www.dmsguild.com/product/314205/Color-Mana-Spell-Points-COREKT-BUNDLE
Bards will forever be white black to me. The use of their charisma to build up or manipulate others are the hallmarks of the dichotomy between white and black. U can add red if u want but the perfectionism most bards would like to attribute to blue could just as easily fit into ambitions of black. Plus any class that seeks to seduce any/every npc is decidedly black
My take on the class colors
Artificer: Colorless
Bard: Red & Green
Barbarian: Red & Black
Cleric: White & Black
Druid: Blue & Green
Monk: White & Blue
Paladin: White & Red
Ranger: White & Green
Rogue: Blue & Black
Sorcerer: Blue & Red
Warlock: Black & Green
Wizard+ Fighter: Five colors
i love this! im making a character for a bg3 playthrough, i took the test and got UW. Not sure if i should make a character based on this or go off the rails, theres so much choice i love it!
This serie i amazing, I'm looking for to seeing more classes (subclasses?)!
My favorite class is Druid, I want a staff or a living being 😂
Kinda crazy to see it over, took a year almost but we made it
My sorcerer is jeskai. From blue he strives for mastery and perfection in his powers. From red he's passionate and excited about mastering his powers he also revels in his power especially when he learns a new skill. He's white mainly because he has a 1 level dip in order cleric. So he respects laws and thinks they are needed to keep order and peace. The discipline of white also helps him firther his mastery even more.
He also has great control over his powers because of white and blue
Thank you for making these videos to help me out.
They not to opps.
I was wondering if it's possible for the classes of the World of Warcraft: Warrior, Rogue, Hunter, Mage, Shaman, Paladin, Preist, Warlock, Death knight, Monk, Druid, Demon hunter, and Evoker?
Warrior - Red/blue they get rage - red and blue as discipline.
Warlock clearly black
Wizard - blue
Monk - blue/green
Paladin - white/blue
Priest - white
Shaman - Red/green
Druid - green
Evoker - Red/black
DK - Black/Red
That's my opinion, but they may hold additional colors
Hunter -green predominantly but with litlle blu and demon hunter Red/black
Now for all the Pathfinder classes! :V
Very helpful 🙏
Does anyone know what game that is @3:14:34 ?
Been trying to break the colors down into 1 word bites that summarize for my players. So far I have Black = egocentric, White = altruistic, Red = Zeal, and Blue = Discernment. Having trouble with Green. Can’t seem to get a word that encompasses all of it without cutting huge portions
Acceptance? Things-as-they-are?
I would say green could be balance, or restoration perhaps. It is a mix of them all, I truly think.
Native, nature, growth, interdependence, instinct... search color wheel MTG they have a chart with one word descriptions on them.
So...Pathfinder 2e version when?
I haven't used the Pathfinder system, but it is a possibility
@@DiceTry Due to WOTC's current choices I've recently decided to make the switch. It's really exciting to be learning a new game again and see what their take on all the classic classes is, as well as the new ones they have. Sure the fighter and the barbarian will likely be the same as your video, but where does a psychic lie? Or an inventor. It's easy to say blue, but does that really cover all they can be?
This is so cool!
So...im pausing the video to make this comment. About the rogue and the color green? Maybe...blue, black, green...I like a mix of the ideas of robin hood and a Tinker from King killer chronicles. Steal a bushel of apples, leave a pot. Steal a pot or two, leave a fishing net. Steal a couple fishing nets, leave a goat. Run off with a couple of goats, leave a sword and shield. Little bit of balance and hopefully solve a need of the former owners...with a finders fee of course.
Was this your doctoral thesis
I'm planning a green/blue bard (a merfolk from Ixalan) and while this hasn't been mentioned as a combination for bards here, I like to think of her as more of a "shaman with an instrument". She's a storyteller for her people and wants to preserve their stories, especially after Phyrexia ran roughshod over them, and also specializes in controlling the battlefield by disabling the enemies. The color combination is called "Simic", but I don't like to call her that - because she's almost the reverse of a Simic. She's mainly green, and uses blue as a tool, instead of the other way around.
I don't think white is always good and pure. I think white can also be a color of tyranny. I also don't think red or black is always evil, selfish and evil. It sounds like you are a mono white player, or possibly bias to white or blue.
You can't be serious... no one plays monowhite.
But seriously, look up the color pie chart for mtg... black inner ring is "selfishness" "omnipotence" "paranoid " outer ring is "parastism" and "ammorality"
While white inner ring is "unncreative" "peace" and "law" while the outer ring is "morality" and "order" now that could absolutely lead to tyranny like you say, but for many paladins and clerics this fits perfectly.
I think he's done a pretty good breakdown... but what do I know I'm a green player.
He literally talks about how white can be authoritarian.
I don't know if I've missed any videos, but I'm curious about your opinion of the Shaman being the Iconic Red spellcaster; also how the Red Shaman would/should look like as a DnD class.
Shaman is as green as they go, IMO. Shaman make agreements and pleas and pacts with ancient elemental spirits
Shaman is a druid, maybe mixed with a martial class for sure a gruul player... possibly a druid/sorcerer, but I thunk that would be pretty MAD
Naw
Magic the gathering... 😂
Why is it Timmy's?