Actually I am working the implementation of commercially proven technology to recover municipal solid waste (blending some coal or petcoke to improve the heating value to produce pure hydrogen for Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles. The balance of MSW produced in a metropolitan area assuming 1 kg per person per day converted to Hydrogen by gasification WS and PSA would provide adequate fuel for the private vehicles registered in the same metropolitan area. wish me luck
Just a simplified PSA for grade school level knowledge. Any wood gasifier setup can convert over yard waste and wood into syngas/ woodgas. That is at least carbon neutral using renewable sources instead of mined sources. The syngas can be used to run a car or generator, which will lower the carbon footprint from coal and oil. I just gave you some search terms- go forth and learn.
Pyrolysis furnace charcoal and getting rid of smoke How do you deal with the preparation of condensate and separation Components of tar and purification of gas Answer your explanation Is it sufficient for one condensate and one treatment unit for me?
Pyrolysis furnace charcoal and getting rid of smoke How do you deal with the preparation of condensate and separation Components of tar and purification of gas Answer your explanation Is it sufficient for one condensate and one treatment unit for me?
And there's another thing! What I cannot understand among all these wood gas enthusiasts is why nobody has tried turning the stuff into gasoline! Its actually not that difficult. The Fischer - Tropsch process need a pressure of around 5 atmospheres (car tyre pressure plus a bit), and a temperature of 300 degrees centigrade. As feedstock it needs carbon monoxide which is what woodgas is mostly composed of. Discuss please
Indeed. No one wants to lead the WORLD on by implying that hydrocarbon fuels are "Green" and constantly forming in a natural earth cycle that is under both extreme pressures and high temperatures. I think we used to call it "abiogenic" oil production. Nature's way of concentrating energy.
You must not know that Fischer and tropsch almost died when they invented gasoline by playing around with fire, fuel, high pressure and high temperatures in a sealed container in their experimental duty. Not something for the average person to reproduce. Please discuss
If they use “negative-refractive indexed” materials, to magnify the ionized materials in the combustion, a “warm-plasm” could produce a less toxic by-product. This slag could more easily have mineral extraction recovery.
There was A Question In Which we had to describe how Will You Obtain Gaseous CO↓2 I wrote process fractional distillation and Then I Wrote " Process od Gassification will be Done To Obtain CO2" I didn't Know Gassification Was a Thing Is My Answer Correct ? If Not Kindly Tell What will be correct answer
Exactly. Unless you want to eliminate the ash and emissions from incineration gasification to produce electricity is much more expensive. However if you want zero emissions and zero ash Waste to Chemicals W2C will provide attractive returns for investment in large scale waste recovery systems. My estimates are it will cost $1000 per annual ton of waste to build a high temperature gasification system and the full production cost would be in the range of US$ 4 to 6 for a kg of pure Hydrogen. HTR gasification also produces byproducts from the trace and mineral and metal elements in the waste. New patents to produce rock wool from waste mineral components would absorb much of the operating and depreciation cost bringing the Hydrogen cost below US$4 per kg. US$4 /kg is the DOE target for US hydrogen production.
You could find your answer in our website: www.lcdri.com Best regards, Michelle Luoyang Building materials & Architectural Design& Research Institute (LCDRI) Tel/Wechat: 86-13783185378 Fax: 86-0379-64363566 Emali: michelle@lcdri.com Web: www.lcdri.com
The process needs to use biomass today but wastes material to deliver heat. Further some oxygen is present. I would like to see smaller insulated reactors, heated by micro waves and with added hydrogen carrier and in oxygen free conditions. We would get a lighter fuel mixture but it would make the process even carbon negative if as last step some bio char could be formed. ( not returning in carbon cycle) Yes, yes, I know it's infinitely easier to say this than to build one myself.
Westinghouse attempted to build a 1000 ton per day plasma arc system in Teas Valley UK. It did not work. The only commercially proven system is Thermoselect the latest generation operates on 15 mj/kg waste quality at 13.667 metric tons per hour or 15 tons per hour at 10 mj/kg waste quality. Lower heating value produces more CO2 and lower energy syngas.
Sufuric acid is made by burning sulfur into sulfur dioxide, then oxidised, then added water. Asphalt is made with the help of slag and other fossil fuels waste to make it
Excellent automotive fuel to fight the "green" revolution, and subsequent forced restrictions on access to hydrocarbon fuels. They will jack the price of gasoline, and this will level the playing field for the individual. You will need a ready source of cellulose material though in order to fight effectively.
Note how so few admit that maxim plays any part in the production of EVERYTHING. If you have enough energy to propel the reaction, anything is possible. The earth, with both extreme pressures, high heat, and low oxygen, is the original natural model that we are replicating.
MN - Gasification will occur when organic material is elevated to 800 degrees C. At 800 degrees C when most compounds decompose but carbon and some compounds compounds will not break down at these temperatures. HT gasification increases vessel temperature to 1200 and in some parts 1600 degrees C to melt stone and meta. Water, which becomes steam inside the gasifier has the capability of converting carbon into pure hydrogen and CO2. This is why water is important in the gasifier.
Hello! Please! If you want to create a great video which is informed everyone with news, compose it without any mistakes!!! In this video, you have noticed triple bond between Carbon and Oxygen. It is not right. As you are an engineer, you should not assume such errors. However, it is a good job, Well done!
Commercially proven gasification technology is available and clean. 100% recovery of all elements included int he waste. Go to Thermoselect and watch the video.
@@solexxx8588 chemistry, man, simple chemistry. How do you think the earth naturally provides our crude oil? HEAT + LOW OXYGEN + extreme pressures. Ze germans made use of this process extensively in WW2. The entire idea of renewable oil was referred to as "abiogenic" in nature. The same processes here take place on mars and even more so on the Moon Titan-- a vast energy source when compared to what we fight over on earth.
I plan on building a small gasifier to power a 10Kw genset and make money by pumping it into the grid. I want to make money save up and make bigger and bigger gensets. I'll run it all on sawdust and wast wood from construction and such. Screw coal. It's time to let it die. I wont need any DOE subsidies or any gov organization getting their greedy hands in it.
lol,so someone is here to correct your work by saying carbon monoxide does not have tripple bond?? okay then our learned friend,how many bonds did they tell u carbon dioxide have?
Wood and coal are not renewable recourses and this is not a "clean" process, it still releases CO2. This is not eco-friendly as stated in the video. Good video tho.
Does that mean solar, batteries and electric cars are not “clean” or “eco-friendly” because they use immense amounts of oil and fossil fuels to mine, as well as surface strip mining to obtain the raw materials?
"cleaner" would be a better word. For instance the jet fuel is cleaner when made from coal. Ultimately you can get kinda nit picky about clean and cleaner though considering wind turbines, for instance, are created using literally tons of coal and gasoline. So is that wind turbine totally clean? No but it is 100x or so more clean than just using coal.
Public understanding of gasification is not at a good leve. Most people confuse pyrolyzation with true clean high temperature gasification which captures 100% of all elements in waste as marketable products. For the system described above the percent of CO2 included in the synthesis gas ranges from 18% to 40% depending on the heating value of the waste. The only commercially proven high temperature gasification system has a guaranteed operating range for waste feedstock heating value of 10 to 15 mj/kg. at lower heating value the CO2 content of the synthesis gas exceeds 40%. At 15 mj/kg the CO2 contend is reduced to 18%. The system may be capable of operating at 18 mj/kg but there is no empirical information to prove the CO2 content will fall below 15%. To produce Hydrogen which is the basic building block for many petrochemical processes is produced by a standard petrochemical process called water shift which converts the CO in the syngas to H2 and CO2 increasing the amount of CO2 produced. The H2 and CO2 is separated one technology for this purpose is Pressure Shift Analysis which can produce 99% pure H2 and 95% pure CO2. In this process the CO2 is captured and ready for commercial use or sequestration.
@Craig F. Thompson its nice to see not everyone is a dimwit when it comes to this tech, you can also run the co2 exhaust through tanks of algae to produce algae and oxygen. Algae can modified to make gasoline or other things.
@@laserfalcon why are you commenting this on everyone who is pointing out that this isn't clean in the slightest. What you're saying is not true. Plants need specific amounts of co2
Gasification animation? I think the creators of this video needs a complete course on animation..... the title is gasification animation not gasification explanation ..... can you make please create an animation? Thanks in advance.
Good easy way to follow what Gasification does and how we can use it to make clean coal products.
Actually I am working the implementation of commercially proven technology to recover municipal solid waste (blending some coal or petcoke to improve the heating value to produce pure hydrogen for Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles. The balance of MSW produced in a metropolitan area assuming 1 kg per person per day converted to Hydrogen by gasification WS and PSA would provide adequate fuel for the private vehicles registered in the same metropolitan area.
wish me luck
@@waleed2008smith how is your research going?
@@waleed2008smith can i have your email or other source to contact you
Good knowledge !!!
Nicely Explained.
Thank you so much!
Just a simplified PSA for grade school level knowledge. Any wood gasifier setup can convert over yard waste and wood into syngas/ woodgas. That is at least carbon neutral using renewable sources instead of mined sources. The syngas can be used to run a car or generator, which will lower the carbon footprint from coal and oil. I just gave you some search terms- go forth and learn.
more correctly called pyrolysis, not comparable to high temperature oxygen fed industrial size gasification
Pyrolysis furnace charcoal and getting rid of smoke How do you deal with the preparation of condensate and separation Components of tar and purification of gas Answer your explanation Is it sufficient for one condensate and one treatment unit for me?
Great animation. Thanks.
For production of one ton of pallet what amount of coal gas is required please mantion
Doesn't it take a lot of energy to run the full process?
plz send me any link about maintenance of single stage coal gasifier and how to increase the efficiency of this gasifier.
Pyrolysis furnace charcoal and getting rid of smoke How do you deal with the preparation of condensate and separation Components of tar and purification of gas Answer your explanation Is it sufficient for one condensate and one treatment unit for me?
awesome, thank you
making corn not lose its kcal when the gasform is created so the otherway around is?
Sir aap producer gas plant ke topic per presentation upload kar sakte hai .
Please sir
Very good video
And there's another thing! What I cannot understand among all these wood gas enthusiasts is why nobody has tried turning the stuff into gasoline! Its actually not that difficult. The Fischer - Tropsch process need a pressure of around 5 atmospheres (car tyre pressure plus a bit), and a temperature of 300 degrees centigrade. As feedstock it needs carbon monoxide which is what woodgas is mostly composed of. Discuss please
Indeed. No one wants to lead the WORLD on by implying that hydrocarbon fuels are "Green" and constantly forming in a natural earth cycle that is under both extreme pressures and high temperatures. I think we used to call it "abiogenic" oil production. Nature's way of concentrating energy.
You must not know that Fischer and tropsch almost died when they invented gasoline by playing around with fire, fuel, high pressure and high temperatures in a sealed container in their experimental duty. Not something for the average person to reproduce.
Please discuss
1805 we took a wrong path our streets in Britain were lit back then by coal gas
2:35 So you burn the H2, but what happens to the C02 which was created by adding steam to the syngas to create the H2 and C02?
CO2 will go to the air, there is no efficient way of making hydrogen without CO2 being a biproduct
If they use “negative-refractive indexed” materials, to magnify the ionized materials in the combustion, a “warm-plasm” could produce a less toxic by-product. This slag could more easily have mineral extraction recovery.
There was A Question In Which we had to describe how Will You Obtain Gaseous CO↓2
I wrote process fractional distillation and Then I Wrote " Process od Gassification will be Done To Obtain CO2"
I didn't Know Gassification Was a Thing
Is My Answer Correct ? If Not Kindly Tell
What will be correct answer
how you made these animations ...... pls ans
I think it's a power point presentation
Is this technology more expensive compare to coal energy plants in maintenance or requires costly investment in building these facilities.
Exactly. Unless you want to eliminate the ash and emissions from incineration gasification to produce electricity is much more expensive. However if you want zero emissions and zero ash Waste to Chemicals W2C will provide attractive returns for investment in large scale waste recovery systems.
My estimates are it will cost $1000 per annual ton of waste to build a high temperature gasification system and the full production cost would be in the range of US$ 4 to 6 for a kg of pure Hydrogen. HTR gasification also produces byproducts from the trace and mineral and metal elements in the waste. New patents to produce rock wool from waste mineral components would absorb much of the operating and depreciation cost bringing the Hydrogen cost below US$4 per kg. US$4 /kg is the DOE target for US hydrogen production.
You could find your answer in our website: www.lcdri.com
Best regards,
Michelle
Luoyang Building materials & Architectural Design& Research Institute (LCDRI)
Tel/Wechat: 86-13783185378
Fax: 86-0379-64363566
Emali: michelle@lcdri.com
Web: www.lcdri.com
The process needs to use biomass today but wastes material to deliver heat. Further some oxygen is present.
I would like to see smaller insulated reactors, heated by micro waves and with added hydrogen carrier and in oxygen free conditions. We would get a lighter fuel mixture but it would make the process even carbon negative if as last step some bio char could be formed. ( not returning in carbon cycle)
Yes, yes, I know it's infinitely easier to say this than to build one myself.
Seems like a very inefficient way of burning coal. Could Possibly a hybrid Nuclear coal plant be possible where a reactor can make the hydrogen ?
What about Waste-to-Energy?!
nice
Make a store bought one that ppl can use and sell byproducts to the chem companies
Westinghouse attempted to build a 1000 ton per day plasma arc system in Teas Valley UK. It did not work.
The only commercially proven system is Thermoselect the latest generation operates on 15 mj/kg waste quality at 13.667 metric tons per hour or 15 tons per hour at 10 mj/kg waste quality. Lower heating value produces more CO2 and lower energy syngas.
At home fart collection machine!! Make one!!! Gasification😆
You the best buddy
1. How is made sufuric acid?
2. How is made the asphalt?
Sufuric acid is made by burning sulfur into sulfur dioxide, then oxidised, then added water.
Asphalt is made with the help of slag and other fossil fuels waste to make it
0:50 you better tell those wildfires to dispose of their ash responsibly.... lol.
Good
Could power light bulbs or something...
Excellent automotive fuel to fight the "green" revolution, and subsequent forced restrictions on access to hydrocarbon fuels. They will jack the price of gasoline, and this will level the playing field for the individual. You will need a ready source of cellulose material though in order to fight effectively.
but the gas from gasifier is called producer gas na
Matter cannot be destroyed it just changes it's form
Note how so few admit that maxim plays any part in the production of EVERYTHING. If you have enough energy to propel the reaction, anything is possible. The earth, with both extreme pressures, high heat, and low oxygen, is the original natural model that we are replicating.
They the Russians say coal ash is stronger than lime stone when u make concrete
i still don't understand some part, like this part, combustion naturally produce steam, so why the steam was added in gasification?
MN - Gasification will occur when organic material is elevated to 800 degrees C. At 800 degrees C when most compounds decompose but carbon and some compounds compounds will not break down at these temperatures. HT gasification increases vessel temperature to 1200 and in some parts 1600 degrees C to melt stone and meta. Water, which becomes steam inside the gasifier has the capability of converting carbon into pure hydrogen and CO2.
This is why water is important in the gasifier.
Hello!
Please! If you want to create a great video which is informed everyone with news, compose it without any mistakes!!!
In this video, you have noticed triple bond between Carbon and Oxygen. It is not right. As you are an engineer, you should not assume such errors. However, it is a good job, Well done!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide
The definition of "clean" is stretched to the extreme here.
Commercially proven gasification technology is available and clean. 100% recovery of all elements included int he waste. Go to Thermoselect and watch the video.
@@waleed2008smith BS
@@solexxx8588 chemistry, man, simple chemistry. How do you think the earth naturally provides our crude oil? HEAT + LOW OXYGEN + extreme pressures. Ze germans made use of this process extensively in WW2. The entire idea of renewable oil was referred to as "abiogenic" in nature. The same processes here take place on mars and even more so on the Moon Titan-- a vast energy source when compared to what we fight over on earth.
@@solexxx8588 Care to elaborate?
anyone else notice the similarities of this logo to the Pepsi logo?
no
I didn't at first but then I put an acid tab in my joint and smoked it and I now agree that fish do make good pets.
I plan on building a small gasifier to power a 10Kw genset and make money by pumping it into the grid. I want to make money save up and make bigger and bigger gensets. I'll run it all on sawdust and wast wood from construction and such. Screw coal. It's time to let it die. I wont need any DOE subsidies or any gov organization getting their greedy hands in it.
That's Easy Should be able to kick off with less than$1k. But how do you hope to control your emmissions.
@@onekycarscanners6002 thats a bit personal dont you think?
@@laserfalcon
LOL!
am i the only one hearing echos on the backround?
Yes
lol,so someone is here to correct your work by saying carbon monoxide does not have tripple bond?? okay then our learned friend,how many bonds did they tell u carbon dioxide have?
CLEAN COLE LOL!! THATS WHY THEY LAUGHED YOU OUT OF THE CLIMATE ACCORD!
Wood and coal are not renewable recourses and this is not a "clean" process, it still releases CO2. This is not eco-friendly as stated in the video. Good video tho.
Does that mean solar, batteries and electric cars are not “clean” or “eco-friendly” because they use immense amounts of oil and fossil fuels to mine, as well as surface strip mining to obtain the raw materials?
Hi steve
no real comments yet
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The sad thing about this video, is the CO2 produced is conveniently forgotten, along with the mercury and all the other toxic stuff.
More than conveniently overlooked typical American and Chinese Madness
If you are using it on waste instead of coal then you can probably be carbon neutral.
Atmospheric CO2 levels have never been lower over the last 500 MILLION years.
Create some circuits! Bump into circuit solver on the playstore!
2:02 There is absolutely nothing clean about coal. There is none such thing as clean coal, or "clean energy from coal".
Didn't tell us anything practical.
LOL! Gasification to produce clean energy??? what a joke!!! Pls tell me how much carbon-di-oxide does the gasification process generate???
"cleaner" would be a better word. For instance the jet fuel is cleaner when made from coal. Ultimately you can get kinda nit picky about clean and cleaner though considering wind turbines, for instance, are created using literally tons of coal and gasoline. So is that wind turbine totally clean? No but it is 100x or so more clean than just using coal.
I think the point is, the CO2 is not being released as a flue gas, it can be sequestered, for CCS
Public understanding of gasification is not at a good leve. Most people confuse pyrolyzation with true clean high temperature gasification which captures 100% of all elements in waste as marketable products.
For the system described above the percent of CO2 included in the synthesis gas ranges from 18% to 40% depending on the heating value of the waste. The only commercially proven high temperature gasification system has a guaranteed operating range for waste feedstock heating value of 10 to 15 mj/kg. at lower heating value the CO2 content of the synthesis gas exceeds 40%. At 15 mj/kg the CO2 contend is reduced to 18%. The system may be capable of operating at 18 mj/kg but there is no empirical information to prove the CO2 content will fall below 15%.
To produce Hydrogen which is the basic building block for many petrochemical processes is produced by a standard petrochemical process called water shift which converts the CO in the syngas to H2 and CO2 increasing the amount of CO2 produced. The H2 and CO2 is separated one technology for this purpose is Pressure Shift Analysis which can produce 99% pure H2 and 95% pure CO2. In this process the CO2 is captured and ready for commercial use or sequestration.
@Craig F. Thompson its nice to see not everyone is a dimwit when it comes to this tech, you can also run the co2 exhaust through tanks of algae to produce algae and oxygen. Algae can modified to make gasoline or other things.
CO2 will still be produced , it’s not environmentally freindly
Plants love co2,. Makes the earth greener.
@@laserfalcon why are you commenting this on everyone who is pointing out that this isn't clean in the slightest. What you're saying is not true. Plants need specific amounts of co2
@@hawks9142 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gasification animation? I think the creators of this video needs a complete course on animation..... the title is gasification animation not gasification explanation ..... can you make please create an animation? Thanks in advance.
Fairly useless animation, with magical gasifier churning out products from coal, water, and oxygen, (nevermind the carbon dioxide emissions)!!!