NYC 3.5 years of experience in Primary Care, started off as a new grad at 100K, after 2 years was bumped to 120K bc the PAs learned that new grad NPs were starting at 120K, and some experienced PAs were at 105K when a new NP was 120K. 5 months ago I was bumped to 127K.
Amazing! I love the transparency ❤️ And I love that you guys advocated for yourself for that pay bump!! 🙌🙌 And working in NYC is tough! So much competition for jobs over there.
I make $120/yr as a registered nurse w/ a BSN. I’m considering PA vs NP bc I have prereqs for both. I feel like PA is a better approach to medicine than nursing is, but they’re both great and have their place.
Nice! One of my co-workers is married to an RN that makes $120,000/year. She is the supervisor of an entire floor at the hospital. I think this is the maternity floor.
I would love to do a video talking about how you negotiated salary, sign on bonuses, and general aspects of a job as well as how you recognized red flags in jobs!
Sure! Definitely can do that! Have you listened to Your PA Mentor podcast??! I discuss all that on the podcast in detail. But I can share more on TH-cam!
Where I am in northern NY there is a massive staffing shortage and new grad PA's are starting around 130k. I'm seeing some making as much as 149k. Most positions are in the ED though so very high stress level.
Yeah that’s pretty common now in major cities because of the major shortage of PAs. I mean, good for the PAs that are earning that high income. The downside of it all is high income = high stress -> higher risk of burnout.
I’m not a PA but I still follow you since you’re awesome! I’m a senior accountant/CPA with 5+ years experience and making $93k base in Columbus Ohio which I feel would be low cost of living LCOL. I could probably land a managerial position for $110k to 120k but I’m still contemplating whether I want the additional responsibility and work with that pay increase.
Wow!! Love this! Thanks for sharing. I would explore whether the additional responsibilities is actually as daunting as you imagine for the increased pay. Perhaps there may be a learning curve in the beginning as you adjust to the role, but over time, I bet it would get easier! I would take management position and explore it! Worse case scenario, you hate it and ask for a demotion. No shame in the game.
Hi, I am an Accountant with an specialty in Cost Accounting or Managerial Accounting, I am really contemplating to change to PA because it's a change of life for me, for different reasons and made me value important things in life. I can work doing that for free, it's not about the money, it's fixing health problems with people, so many friends, family members, everyone that I know has been touched by serious conditions, I want to help, the problem is I have responsibilities with clients, I have a small practice, it's not a job that can let it go, they put their confidence in me because after several years helping their business, what would you advice in my case? Thank you for your time.@@samingoshow
Thank you for this video! It was super informative for me as a PA-S2. I’ll graduate in December and am trying to figure out what salary I can expect as a new grad in AZ and how I can negotiate without being unreasonable
Awwh I’m so glad you enjoyed it!! More PA content coming!! 😂 I’m working as fast as I can to record this stuff. It’s hard work. And get rid of that limiting mindset regarding negotiation!! I promise, you can and will negotiate! Give me a few weeks to pump out some negotiation videos.
A new graduate as a Cardiovascular Technologist with an Associates would give a new graduate $75,000 base pay so with the on call included you’re looking at approximately $90,000 a year a as a new graduate! So who’s ever looking into a quick schooling and make some money with little to no student loan debt, come join the Technologist world!
Echo tech definitely make 90k after taxes full time 100k prn and local 120-150k travel. Im a veteran was cardiopulmonary tech deployment job RT. We work as cath lab tech, rt, and pulmonary tech… i finessed my way into echo non traditional 😂 but I too was interested in PA but was concerned about the pay difference. But I do appreciate the lifestyle and the autonomy. Times are changing and I don’t want to stay stagnant with Ai coming around but I feel the job is over saturated as well which can lower job opportunities and keep pay scale stagnate.
Just accepted a job as a new grad in central AL in the ER, 0 years of experience, at $55/hr, $1,000 CME, they did a one time reimbursement for my license and registration fees. No benefits, it's a 1099 position. 12 hours shifts - either 9a-9p or 12p-12a, but no full night shifts. At least 12 shifts a month for full time. After 1 year I get bumped up to $65/hr, and it goes up about $5/hr every other year. I honestly think it's a little low because there are no benefits (PTO, retirement, health insurance, overtime, maternity leave, etc) or bonus structures . When I negotiated for more, they agreed to add a pay bump at $60/hr at 6 months and told me they were planning to restructure the APP package in the future that would benefit everyone. I hope they fulfill their promise, and I don't grow to feel like I'm not compensated enough for my area, level of experience, etc. But the team is super supportive. I'll never have to work night shift (past midnight). I feel extremely lucky and happy to be there, so that is what matters most! Happy PAs!
Wow! Good for you Jesse! So impressed with your ability to negotiate! 🙌 As for the increase bump in 6 months, I would recommend that tell them to include that clause in your contract. If it’s not written somewhere, it’s not a real deal. You should never rely on a verbal agreement! Good luck on your first job! I’m glad you found yourself a supportive work environment ❤️
Hello Sami, Thank you for such great content, I'm in the radiology field and I'm thinking of applying to PA school, you really put things into perspective, thank you!
If you already have a BSN, then NP is a great option! I have seen hospitals paying for additional education as well, which can be beneficial to NP students as well. PA is more appropriate for anyone who has a bachelor's degree. Pay is very similar! But NPs can practice independently while PAs have more strict regulations.
As a new grad RN at Oncology in PA, my rate is $47.42 with a full benefit. There is shift differentials for night $5/hr and for weekend $6/hr. I live in east now for my husband but I am originally from northern CA and I have seen $67 for a new grad rate. I also have two kids and husband. So I am considering staying in nursing for FNP and CRNA degrees or go to medical school for either family medicine or anesthesiology in Caribbean after I save up some money. I love your sharing and thank you!
Hey Sami, I hope you and your family are doing well! I was wondering if you could do a video about working or not working during PA school. My boyfriend and I want to save up for a house, but he wants me to focus on graduating and completing PA school however, I feel a little in the grey area since I'm unsure how I would help him save up for our home since programs don't approve of students working during their programs. I was wondering if you had any advice for those with or without significant others? Have a great weekend!
Most schools will not allow you to work during PA school. So don’t worry about buying a house now. It shouldn’t be your top priority. The cost of failing out of PA school would be much greater than whatever amount you can save up for a house. Single focus intensity- get through PA school first. You have the next 50 years to buy a house. What’s the eushv
Hey! I actually just learned about hybrid PA school options while watching another creator's videos today. Maybe look into that? They're longer programs, but they're partially online and allow you to have time to keep a part time job during them. I don't know much about them other than that though. 😊
I have 50,000 dollars saved . I am about to move to San Diego to live closer to my family ( they live in Baja California Sur , México) . I was thinking about investing my money in a condominium or house in Baja California Sur near the beach . Or use this money to pay my daily rent/ expenses while I am in PA school. What would you recommend me would be the best ?
I would try to keep your expenses low as possible and avoid taking on too much debt as a PA student. If you’re able to use that 50k towards your expenses, that’s probably better bang for your bucks. As a homeowner, you will have a lot of unexpected expenses. And if you don’t have an income coming in, you’ll probably struggle to pay for the maintenance that comes with your house. There’s no need to rush buying a house. Assuming you live till you’re 100, you have another 60-70ish years to buy a home 😊
4.5 years experience total 90k as a new grad, cardiology (2 years) 100k + ~30k in incentive, hospitalist (2.5 years) $80/hour + 6% 401k match (no other benefits), ER (~2 months in my current job)
Well I say this I lost $10-15hr moving from Texas in a big city to much smaller city in Tennesee. I will be going a to TN PA conference to connect with PAs in the state and that will be very helpful. I don't know any here and I'll be honest. I have encountered some what feels to me like some racial unease compared to working a diverse big city like one I came from. I went from 120k to about 105k if I don't pick up any extra shifts.
@@samingoshow process and tactics! i think one of the hardest things is how to negotiate salary as a new grad PA since you don’t have any experience to use as leverage!
Unfortunately I am not a PrePA coach. Definitely not the best person to give you advice on how to write a solid personal statement. Good luck on your journey!
Promote pay transparency. 👏🏼
🙌🙌🙌 1000000%
NYC 3.5 years of experience in Primary Care, started off as a new grad at 100K, after 2 years was bumped to 120K bc the PAs learned that new grad NPs were starting at 120K, and some experienced PAs were at 105K when a new NP was 120K. 5 months ago I was bumped to 127K.
Amazing! I love the transparency ❤️ And I love that you guys advocated for yourself for that pay bump!! 🙌🙌 And working in NYC is tough! So much competition for jobs over there.
How does sign on bonus works.
I make $120/yr as a registered nurse w/ a BSN. I’m considering PA vs NP bc I have prereqs for both. I feel like PA is a better approach to medicine than nursing is, but they’re both great and have their place.
Absolutely agree! Both proved so much value to the healthcare system ❤️. And wow $120K is amazing as an RN! Thanks for sharing.
Nice! One of my co-workers is married to an RN that makes $120,000/year. She is the supervisor of an entire floor at the hospital. I think this is the maternity floor.
I would love to do a video talking about how you negotiated salary, sign on bonuses, and general aspects of a job as well as how you recognized red flags in jobs!
Sure! Definitely can do that! Have you listened to Your PA Mentor podcast??! I discuss all that on the podcast in detail. But I can share more on TH-cam!
Where I am in northern NY there is a massive staffing shortage and new grad PA's are starting around 130k. I'm seeing some making as much as 149k. Most positions are in the ED though so very high stress level.
Yeah that’s pretty common now in major cities because of the major shortage of PAs. I mean, good for the PAs that are earning that high income. The downside of it all is high income = high stress -> higher risk of burnout.
@@samingoshow this isn't major city though, this is thousand islands/Adirondacks. Like the hospital where I work is in a town of 7,000 people.
@@FevourWoR That is crazy. Low supply = high demand. Companies will pay!
high stress ages the body
Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate that you spoke about getting in trouble and what that was like for you.
😆 Thanks for watching! I’m all about transparency! 🙌
I’m not a PA but I still follow you since you’re awesome! I’m a senior accountant/CPA with 5+ years experience and making $93k base in Columbus Ohio which I feel would be low cost of living LCOL. I could probably land a managerial position for $110k to 120k but I’m still contemplating whether I want the additional responsibility and work with that pay increase.
Wow!! Love this! Thanks for sharing. I would explore whether the additional responsibilities is actually as daunting as you imagine for the increased pay. Perhaps there may be a learning curve in the beginning as you adjust to the role, but over time, I bet it would get easier! I would take management position and explore it! Worse case scenario, you hate it and ask for a demotion. No shame in the game.
Hi, I am an Accountant with an specialty in Cost Accounting or Managerial Accounting, I am really contemplating to change to PA because it's a change of life for me, for different reasons and made me value important things in life. I can work doing that for free, it's not about the money, it's fixing health problems with people, so many friends, family members, everyone that I know has been touched by serious conditions, I want to help, the problem is I have responsibilities with clients, I have a small practice, it's not a job that can let it go, they put their confidence in me because after several years helping their business, what would you advice in my case? Thank you for your time.@@samingoshow
Wonderfully informative and helpful!! Thank you!! Your transparency is off the charts. I really appreciate your generosity.
😄 thank you so much for your support 🔥 I’m so glad you’re vibing with all the transparency!!
6:50 How did you get that much time off?? Pls answer 🙏
Thank you for this video! It was super informative for me as a PA-S2. I’ll graduate in December and am trying to figure out what salary I can expect as a new grad in AZ and how I can negotiate without being unreasonable
Awwh I’m so glad you enjoyed it!! More PA content coming!! 😂 I’m working as fast as I can to record this stuff. It’s hard work.
And get rid of that limiting mindset regarding negotiation!! I promise, you can and will negotiate! Give me a few weeks to pump out some negotiation videos.
still can't believe there's a decent pay gap between the 2, smh..
A new graduate as a Cardiovascular Technologist with an Associates would give a new graduate $75,000 base pay so with the on call included you’re looking at approximately $90,000 a year a as a new graduate! So who’s ever looking into a quick schooling and make some money with little to no student loan debt, come join the Technologist world!
Amazing! I was making pretty good money as an ultrasound tech too! But that was over decade ago 😂 Great career! Glad you enjoy it 🙌
Echo tech definitely make 90k after taxes full time 100k prn and local 120-150k travel. Im a veteran was cardiopulmonary tech deployment job RT. We work as cath lab tech, rt, and pulmonary tech… i finessed my way into echo non traditional 😂 but I too was interested in PA but was concerned about the pay difference. But I do appreciate the lifestyle and the autonomy. Times are changing and I don’t want to stay stagnant with Ai coming around but I feel the job is over saturated as well which can lower job opportunities and keep pay scale stagnate.
I'm a massage therapist looking to change careers. I think medicine would be a good transition. How long was your training to be a card tech?
This is such a valuable video that I have shared with my High Schooler who is interested in studying PreMed or Heath Sciences in college
Just accepted a job as a new grad in central AL in the ER, 0 years of experience, at $55/hr, $1,000 CME, they did a one time reimbursement for my license and registration fees. No benefits, it's a 1099 position. 12 hours shifts - either 9a-9p or 12p-12a, but no full night shifts. At least 12 shifts a month for full time. After 1 year I get bumped up to $65/hr, and it goes up about $5/hr every other year. I honestly think it's a little low because there are no benefits (PTO, retirement, health insurance, overtime, maternity leave, etc) or bonus structures . When I negotiated for more, they agreed to add a pay bump at $60/hr at 6 months and told me they were planning to restructure the APP package in the future that would benefit everyone. I hope they fulfill their promise, and I don't grow to feel like I'm not compensated enough for my area, level of experience, etc. But the team is super supportive. I'll never have to work night shift (past midnight). I feel extremely lucky and happy to be there, so that is what matters most! Happy PAs!
Wow! Good for you Jesse! So impressed with your ability to negotiate! 🙌 As for the increase bump in 6 months, I would recommend that tell them to include that clause in your contract. If it’s not written somewhere, it’s not a real deal. You should never rely on a verbal agreement! Good luck on your first job! I’m glad you found yourself a supportive work environment ❤️
@@samingoshow it was in the contract! ❤️
@@JesseZAMica 🙌🙌🙌🙌 you damn right it is!!
Hello Sami,
Thank you for such great content, I'm in the radiology field and I'm thinking of applying to PA school, you really put things into perspective, thank you!
which route is better ? Becoming a Nurse practitioner or becoming a P.A ?
which has more opportunities and what is salary difference ? thanks ..
If you already have a BSN, then NP is a great option! I have seen hospitals paying for additional education as well, which can be beneficial to NP students as well. PA is more appropriate for anyone who has a bachelor's degree. Pay is very similar! But NPs can practice independently while PAs have more strict regulations.
Can you please make a video on what experiences and knowledge helped you negotiate salary as a new grad?
Absolutely!! Coming up! What exactly do you want to know? What questions can I answer? Anything specific?
As a new grad RN at Oncology in PA, my rate is $47.42 with a full benefit. There is shift differentials for night $5/hr and for weekend $6/hr. I live in east now for my husband but I am originally from northern CA and I have seen $67 for a new grad rate. I also have two kids and husband. So I am considering staying in nursing for FNP and CRNA degrees or go to medical school for either family medicine or anesthesiology in Caribbean after I save up some money.
I love your sharing and thank you!
This video is highly appreciated!
Hey Sami, I hope you and your family are doing well! I was wondering if you could do a video about working or not working during PA school. My boyfriend and I want to save up for a house, but he wants me to focus on graduating and completing PA school however, I feel a little in the grey area since I'm unsure how I would help him save up for our home since programs don't approve of students working during their programs. I was wondering if you had any advice for those with or without significant others? Have a great weekend!
Most schools will not allow you to work during PA school. So don’t worry about buying a house now. It shouldn’t be your top priority. The cost of failing out of PA school would be much greater than whatever amount you can save up for a house. Single focus intensity- get through PA school first. You have the next 50 years to buy a house. What’s the eushv
@@samingoshow 🥹🥹❤️ thank you, for the reminder!!!
Hey! I actually just learned about hybrid PA school options while watching another creator's videos today. Maybe look into that? They're longer programs, but they're partially online and allow you to have time to keep a part time job during them. I don't know much about them other than that though. 😊
@@KaciSynclaire thank you queen!! I will look into it! ❤️❤️
I have 50,000 dollars saved . I am about to move to San Diego to live closer to my family ( they live in Baja California Sur , México) . I was thinking about investing my money in a condominium or house in Baja California Sur near the beach . Or use this money to pay my daily rent/ expenses while I am in PA school.
What would you recommend me would be the best ?
I would try to keep your expenses low as possible and avoid taking on too much debt as a PA student. If you’re able to use that 50k towards your expenses, that’s probably better bang for your bucks.
As a homeowner, you will have a lot of unexpected expenses. And if you don’t have an income coming in, you’ll probably struggle to pay for the maintenance that comes with your house.
There’s no need to rush buying a house. Assuming you live till you’re 100, you have another 60-70ish years to buy a home 😊
@@samingoshowthanks for your reply and advice 😊
Thank you so much
❤️❤️❤️ thanks for watching!
Hello PAs
Hellooooooo PAs is right!
4.5 years experience total
90k as a new grad, cardiology (2 years)
100k + ~30k in incentive, hospitalist (2.5 years)
$80/hour + 6% 401k match (no other benefits), ER (~2 months in my current job)
Well I say this I lost $10-15hr moving from Texas in a big city to much smaller city in Tennesee. I will be going a to TN PA conference to connect with PAs in the state and that will be very helpful. I don't know any here and I'll be honest. I have encountered some what feels to me like some racial unease compared to working a diverse big city like one I came from. I went from 120k to about 105k if I don't pick up any extra shifts.
How are you negotiating all this? 8:43
How can foreign student settle there ??
You are sooo honest!😂
What was your stress level in PA school? Curious
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Can you do a video on how to negotiate salary?
Of course!! What would you like to learn? The process of negotiation? The tactics? What is your biggest struggle with negotation?
@@samingoshow process and tactics! i think one of the hardest things is how to negotiate salary as a new grad PA since you don’t have any experience to use as leverage!
I just finished my first rough draft of my personal statement, any chance you’d be willing to look at it and give me feedback?
Unfortunately I am not a PrePA coach. Definitely not the best person to give you advice on how to write a solid personal statement. Good luck on your journey!
Is physician assistant has scope
I’m not sure i understand your question? Scope of what?
100k base with a pretty unachievable bonus structure as a new grad in primary care, currently 75/hour in urgent care
Agreed. Bonuses are always unachievable! That’s why you gotta be sure you’re willing to accept the base pay. Glad you found a higher paying job!
@@samingoshow thanks!!