Pakistan had only superior airframes, thanks to US' generosity. The IAF had to evolve tactical and pilot capabilities owing to the limitations of the Soviet machines they flew.
@@michaelpascual3581 i dont think that would be an accurate answer buddy but yes the design helped them to have a slight advantage in air to air combat...
@@showtime112 Agree all fleet of f86 and f104 was suffering from shortage of spares due arms embargo put by usa at end of 65 war and mig 21 is far far superior to any thing that paf had and uptil 1971 iaf have huge fleet of it
The place where India truly triumphed over Pakistan was the co-ordination between the different branches. Just airframes are not the war. India and Pakistan had similar capabilities for most part in 1v1 scenario. However, Indian Airforce would provide beyond excellent support to it’s ground and naval forces in 65, 71, and 99. That's something PAF never could do properly.
There is no incontrovertible proof and Pakistan will not provide it. And, in India, it has become a Modi vs. non-Modi rift. Facts are facts and should have no party affiliation. The US says that it checked all the planes and they are still there. It could be someone else's F16. Pakistani pilots are known to fly Saudi and Egyptian planes.
It’s kinda hilarious how much Indian military, specially IAF downplays it’s achievements- Shoots down a MiG 19 using the Su-7, doesn’t confirm the kill, later was found out to have destroyed the jet Attacks Murid Airbase destroying multiple Sabres, thinks that it has blown up a C130 and 2 MiG-19s at most Completely obliterates the Muntho Dahlo logistics base during Kargil war, thinks of it as barely a small objective whereas that was the primary logistics hub of Pak NLI (Btw, I will wait for you to do the Muntho Dahlo bombing)
Indians are generally modest. We don’t go around proclaiming that our country is the best and we sure don’t go around making terrorism the biggest national export unlike a certain other religious group
You can tell the IAF pilots still love the hawker hunters while the PAF pilots also still love the f-86 sabres ever since both retired from service. Please do the history of Israeli Gloster meteor vs Egyptian de havilland vampire or more India Air Force hawker hunters stories.
Both beautiful beasts built for real men who fought there battles upclose and personal unlike those of today who don't even get to see their enemy the missiles are fired from hundreds of miles away.
Great presentation. You may want to make a video on an Indian pilot destroying Chuck Yeager's aircraft during the 1971 war. The pilot, Admiral Arun Prakash, then a Lieutenant, was from Indian Navy, a Sea Hawk pilot who was sent to the Number 20 sqn of IAF on deputation during the 1971 war and flew the Hunter. He lead a strike on Chaklala air base on 4th December where he first targeted a water tank thinking it to be the ATC tower, and then went on to destroy Chuck Yeager's beechcraft. Admiral Arun Prakash went on to become the Chief of Indian Navy
Thanks for the comment and suggestion! It would be an interesting video except that there are no general aviation airplanes in WT. Maybe if they introduce them someday.
@@olddiver PAF had moved away all its assets from the forward Chaklala air base, predicting an IAF strike. They forgot to inform Chuck Yeager though. The only aircraft at the base was his Beechcraft. It was still a significant raid, as it was seen as India's way of hitting back at US, the latter was supporting Pakistan in 1971 war. Infact the then US ambassador Edward Ingraham described in a book that how frustrated Chuck Yeager was, blaming the then Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi of instructing the Indian pilot to target Yeager's aircraft. He even sent a top priority cable to the Washington asking for "immediate countermeasures." Edward Ingraham later described this incident as the Indian way of giving Uncle Sam ‘the finger’!
At the night of 8th Dec India would do Operation Python. These attacks on Pak airbases were a part of diverting Pakistan's attention from that operation. Granted it also helped to destroy Pakistani air capability.
Fighter aircraft of the combatants in 1971 -PAF operated: f-86 (American f-86f and Canadair mark 6 versions purchased from Iran), f-104g, Mig 19 (j-6), mirage iii ea. -IAF operated: mystere, folland gnat, hawker hunter, su-7, mig 21 (fl), and HAL HF-24 Marut So we have a combination of: American, British, Chinese, French, indian, and Soviet designed all going into the cats paw.
The IRIAF raid against the H-3 complex April 4 1981 is probably the most succefull... 23 iraqui planes and 4 helicopters destroyed by a flight of 8 F-4 phantoms, two "D" and six "E" models...the iraqui commander and several officers were executed after the raid.
IAF Raid over Sargodha AFB in 1965 Indo-Pak War is also very successful as it broke the back of Pak Military, more specifically the PAF as after 9th September 1965, the PAF Sabres virtually disappeared from the skies.
"... broke the back of Pak military... ", "... PAF Sabres virtually disappeared from the sky... ", wow, the delusions indians live in. I agree '71 wasn't our best year but '65 is a whole different story.
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 I suggest you watch the interviews of Air Marshal Asghar Khan and Air Marshal Nur Khan (both CAS of PAF) regarding Pakistan's involvement and performance in the 1965 War. They are available on TH-cam, you can search them. Also I'll suggest you to watch Najam Sethi's interview regarding the 1965 War. I'm sure you'll get your "Delusions" cleared.
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 Also, as a side note, the only aspects of 1965 War, which you Pakis can be proud of are: MM Alam's utterly false claim of "downing 5 IAF jets in under a minute" and the so-called "Graveyard of Indian Tanks" at Chawinda. Apart from that, your Paki "Jarnails" know it best as to how woefully unprepared Pakistan Military truly was and how shambolic was its performance.
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 Ayub Khan created this false myth of 1965 War Victory which proved extremely detrimental for Pakistan as the Pakistan Military just did not learn from its mistakes and we all know what happened in 1971. 93,000 Pakistani Troops surrendered.
The Indian pilots can be considered world's no.1 pilots,who made their Sukhoi invisible to radars during red flag exercise,also made their Rafale invisible to radars during exercise with French airforce.They have developed such typical skills,amazing
Brilliant narration and description as always. Can you perhaps cover the the hunter raid on chaklala airbase where an Indian Naval Aviator admiral Arun Prakash who later went on to become the Navy Chief destroyed chuck yeager's beechcraft for which he's said to have held a grudge against the indian CNS for quite some time
Good presentation. I saw a couple of your videos and appreciate the content. Hope your videos also encourage Indians to play War Thunder. Keep up the good work!
@@showtime112 considering 99% of the Indian tree would be just British and then Soviet fighters... The chances are pretty low. Only at rank 7 or something will the Tejas and stuff get added
@@Pinaka120 Well, they did the Israeli tree and there's not a single original airplane design there. There could be the Marut which is an indigenous design. Also, Foland Gnat is currently missing from WT and Indian tree would be great to have it. Your argument against could as well be the argument in favor.
since the Hawker Hunter Mk5 multi role interdictor strike fighter couldn't carry out strike missions at night, some of the Hawker Hunter Mk5 multi role interdictor strike fighter fleet featured first gen partial glass cockpit from Rockwell Collins & night vision . . .
EXCELLENT...CONGRATULATIONS. Another successful video about aviation history. I am still waiting for the Falklands air war, specially the Argentinians A-4 attacking the British Fleet. Thanks very much.
It’s too bad that the Indians were not as ingenious as the Pakistanis were. While the Pakistanis installed AIM9 missiles on their older aircraft, the Indians who had access to French missiles could have used them on the Hunter.
The Indians were much more ingenious lol. Just in different ways. The Battle of Longewala, where 120 Indian soldiers and 2 jeep borne anti tank guns went up against 2 Pakistani Mobile infantry brigades consisting of more than 2000 soldiers, around 40 tanks, a field regiment and 2 artillery batteries, and WON. They held them back till the morning when IAF could send air support. 35 tanks destroyed, around 500 vehicles abandoned, hundreds killed and the rest injured and retreated, for the loss of 2 Indian soldiers, 1 recoilless rifle, and the biggest casualty were 5 camels lmao.
@@AT-bo6ww the best part of Islamic Republic of Pakistan is that they have the best courage to fight a war that no one can Just to surrender and create history 🤣🤣🤣
India was under pressure from United States of America to stop the war in Bangladesh and also asserted pressure on French to not supply and support the equipment needed to do those fittings of French missiles on British aircrafts India was also under British pressure saying don’t use hunters and NATS of British origin in that war pakistan didn’t had the knowledge and technology to fit those AIM9s in those aircraft that job was done by American technicians instead of all that international pressure we fough and won I think it’s the habit of white pple to interfere and comment on wars they practically and politically have nothing to do with proven by the fact u say that comment about a topic u have no knowledge of and have nothing to do with got my point gentleman
Can you make a video on Indian MiG-21s attacking the Dhaka government building during the war? It was a last second decision by the high command given to the MiG-21s armed with rockets instead of bombs, which would've otherwise done other sorties. The attack was so effective that the governor in the building instantly resigned and took refuge under a UN hotel
In 1971 war, India achieved full air superiority at easter sector within two days. While in wester sector it took 5 days to achieve full control of Pakistani air space. 1971 war witnessed might of Indian Navy. Indian navy destroyed one-third of Pakistani naval strength and lost only one frigate in process, it was the most successful Naval war in the world.
Good coverage of this part of aerial history. Great presentation as always, but then again we're watching Showtime112. Viva Showtime! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🔱💮🌸🏵️🏴☠️🏹
Leave this case aside. The bravery of sqdn ldr Devayyiya came into light through Pakistani Pilot only and that too after he retired from PAF. Then only IAF'S top brass were awaken and took action. Sqdn ldr A B DEVAYYIYA was awarded MVC ( POSTH ) in 1988 for his feat in 1965. KAISER TUFFAIL is a very nice person. He's not bias. He saved Flt Lt NACHIKETA from certain death. He behaved just like senior should behave with his junior. He wrote a book " A HARD NUT TO CRACK" on IAF's only PVC Fg Offr NJ S SEKHON. He wrote, " SOME ENEMIES ARE ALSO RESPECTABLE ".
I dont believe indian account is wrong, infact pakistani account is riddled with loopholes it doesn't make sense for adjacent sabres to just explode because onces on their side were hit. It looks more like all the disputed sabre loses that india claims in various other battles denied by Pakistan were adjusted with this story to maintain their propaganda
WoW I wasn’t expecting another great masterpiece India Pakistan story, but nonetheless amazing history telling. I recommend some hunter vs sabre action of East Pak.
It seems like the narrative of 3 sabres nearby catching fire was made up by Pakistanis to account for the loss of their sabres that were downed in other dog fights with IAF. Its highly unlikley that fighter aircrafts will catch fire that easily by just being next to each other, also odd that 2 IAF pilots didnt see 5 sabres stationed next to each other but only 2 PAF aircrafts.
Thanks for the feedback! That's a bit hard to do since we don't have all the proper assets in currently available simulations (exact variants of aircraft and ammo used). Maybe in the future.
Yeah! It was that much failed that we got Abhinandan prisoner and IAF was so confident that they destroyed their own helicopter killing 7 poor soldiers in friendly fire😂😂😂 Moreover, Mudi compelled to say"result would be different if we had Rafael" 😂😂😂😂😂
lol, in 1999 during Kargil war, an IAF Plane had target on Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif. But when they confirmed that they are in Pakistan, they returned back. If they had fired the missile, it would've initiated a Nuclear war
There's an article on ndtv called 'Exclusive Details Of How Air Force Raided A Pak Air Base, Destroyed 5 Jets '. There's the link in video description. I always list my sources and if they are wrong, so am I.
In which airstrikr Flg Offr K L Malkani losy his life! In 1965 war. He was my college classmate whie he joined IAF in the last direct recruiting drive I hesitated although i too was selected. Amost handsome and exceptional all rounder I miss him always Sqn no 28 his name is there in National War Memorial Pl reply.
For now, probably not as I don't think there are enough assets in WT for it. There's a new game by an Indian developer which is all about the naval part of the campaign. It looks a bit raw but if they refine it, it might be useful for something like that.
Thing about Indo pak wars is that none of them are unprofessional armies. They both are competent forces. With different motives fuelling them. One fights for the naam-namak-nishan. (name, salt and sign - name of the regiment, salt of the country, flag). The other one fights for Islamic win over a Hindu. Huge difference. It's not about the individual pilots. Its about who are commanding the pilots.
⚠️One important note! In 1971, during the conflict that led to the loss of Bangladesh, the renowned legendary American fighter pilot Chuck Yeager who was there in Pak at that time acknowledged the exceptional performance of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Despite the significant numerical advantage held by the Indian Air Force (IAF), Yeager stated that the PAF achieved an impressive kill ratio of 3:1 against its adversaries after himself counting the total downed wrackages. He stated on his personal website which you can access even today and also wrote in his biograhy book "yeager" about that war which he witnessed and said that The Pakistanies wiped their asses in the sky. Indians had freshly inducted soviet lastest supersonic mig21s and Su-7 bombers. And India lost 100 plus jets while pakistan lost only 34 of their outdated sabres and limitedly capable f104s And f86 which were in less numbers as well. He expressed his admiration for the professionalism and skill exhibited by PAF pilots during this challenging time. The PAF's superiority was also evident in the 1965 war, where it outperformed the IAF despite facing overwhelming odds. More recently, in 2019, the PAF showcased its capabilities once again by shooting down two jets including SU30 and mig 21 , reinforcing its reputation as a formidable air force. The consistent excellence of the PAF across different conflicts highlights its enduring strength and professionalism.
@@showtime112 Another suggestion/request: Please make video on hight altitude flying IAF Canberra, which was on a photo reconnaissance mission on 10 April 1959. it was flying at high altitude, out of reach from sabres...you can read whole article @ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_Canberra_shootdown It fun to watch how high sabres can fly in DCS, and how they struggle to match the altitude of canberra and executing energy climbs.
Showtime112. Pl refer to " bharat - rakshak " to find out the total IAF losses in both Sept'65 and Dec 71 aerial wars. It might surprise you that IAF losses were greater than the PAF. Then, have the courage to put up those figures correctly in a video for every to see. Even the followers can go to this Indian website and find for themselves the true picture of losses of IAF. 23 Hunters were lost by the IAF in Dec'71. Truth is being made a casualty by your Indian bias.
1:55 the 4 september 1971. 9 Hunter were Lost. Many shot down by Pak fighters and by AAA. So difficult to help you if i dont know the squadron and the area . May bé a former Belgian hunter converted in F56A s/n 8760 reg A462 Pilot F/L Muralidharan..KIA. Pakistan have lack of memory . Dont remember the first Day of six days War 1967. A good Turkey shoot
This Hunter was flown by Flying Officer Sudhir Tyagi, of Pathankot-based No 27 Squadron. He was shot down by Flight Lieutenant Mujahid Salik. I might even cover that properly one day in a separate video.
@@showtime112 Hello mate. Just check on aviation safety. F/o Tyagi was killed with his Hunter F56A A490 s/n8863- T168. Former Belgian hunter F6 reg IF-98. Rebuilt by hawker siddeley by retrofit. Delivered 19/4/67. However listed as shot down by Shenyang F6: mig19????
One day Americans will declassify that they got rid of the Pakistani F16 wreckage shot down by Indian Mig 21 Bison to save face.... They awarded an Air force officer for exactly that.... Who was at the time stationed in Pakistan...
EAGLES OVER BANGLADESH AND 28 SQN FROM HEAVENLY BLESSED IAF IN 1971 AND BHOOP WAS ATTACKING GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN 14 DECEMBER IN 1971 FROM GWAHATI ASSAM TO ENHANCE SURRENDER TO INDIAN ARMIES AND FREEDOM FIGHTERS UNITS OF MUKTI BAHINEE FROM HEAVENLY BLISSFUL BANGLADESH ARMIES IN 16 DECEMBER IN 1971 AS LIKE AS PAKISTANI LANGUAGES SPOKEN AS SAKOOT E DACCA IN 16 DECEMBER DANCE DRAMA FROM PAKISTANI NATIONAL ARMIES WITH GORGEOUS GRACE OF NATIONAL ANTHEM PAAK SAAR JAAMIIN SAAD BAAD KISHWAARE HASSIN SAAD BAAD... IN 16 DECEMBER IN DACCA IN 1971 WITH GRAND GALA FEST ON 93000 POWS FROM PAKISTAN TO INDIAN HELLISHLY HELL LIKE PRISONS IN 1971 FROM NEWLY LIBERATED INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN BANGLADESH AND BEYOND. IZAZ RASOOL MOHAN FROM BARIDHARA GULSHAN DHAKA BANGLADESH.
One thing i noticed is that the F-86 Sabre variant used for Pakistan here is some early one. PAF used the F35 & F40s while the No. 19 Squadron of PAF used Canadair Sabres.
It's not about the weapons but the men behind those weapons.The Talibans with just AK47s managed to threw out and defeat both the Russians and Americans.
IAF attack was violent and inevitable so was made fool by PAF by putting decoys on the two abundant air fields (i) Chota Sargodha (ii) Choki Bhagtanwala built by Britishers during WW2. The active air base was 9 miles away.
Amazing story. But, the pakistani did not retain the lesson of the six days war, four years before, when Israel destroyed the main part of the enemy aviation like this. Especially when your military base is very close from the border, it's a huge tactical mistake.
Salut Jeanne. Les Pakistanais n'ont pas tenu compte de la guerre des Six jours ( le premier jour). Ça a été un tir aux pigeons. Néanmoins Ilya eu 9 Hunter perdus le 4 décembre. Et Bizarrement 4 Sabre détruit le 8 mais fiche avec marquage US??? Au fait bonne Pâques 🥚🍫🔔
My batch mate, S Bala was a part of this very Strike. And he was honoured with a Gallantry Award of Vr C. Proud to be his batchmate.
Grewal Gurgaon
Thank you for sharing!
Will you be kind and ask what happended to sq ldr alban anthony ds
Hawker Hunter, what a beautiful, beautiful aircraft!
I think many people would agree!
I remember the border movie dialogue 😂'raat me nhi ud sakta'😂 but fighter aircraft se jyada use udaane waale humare IAF ke pilots mahaan hai 😊
Pakistan had only superior airframes, thanks to US' generosity. The IAF had to evolve tactical and pilot capabilities owing to the limitations of the Soviet machines they flew.
Gnat was a superior aircraft to the Sabre though. But yeah, IAF pilots are complete monsters of the skies
@@michaelpascual3581 i dont think that would be an accurate answer buddy but yes the design helped them to have a slight advantage in air to air combat...
Well, Sabre was pretty outdated by this time. F-104s had their limitations and Pakistanis only had a handful of them.
@@showtime112
Agree all fleet of f86 and f104 was suffering from shortage of spares due arms embargo put by usa at end of 65 war and mig 21 is far far superior to any thing that paf had and uptil 1971 iaf have huge fleet of it
The place where India truly triumphed over Pakistan was the co-ordination between the different branches. Just airframes are not the war. India and Pakistan had similar capabilities for most part in 1v1 scenario. However, Indian Airforce would provide beyond excellent support to it’s ground and naval forces in 65, 71, and 99. That's something PAF never could do properly.
The F16 pilots shot downby Abhinandan and not acknowledged by Pakistan will be rolling in their Graves.
There is no incontrovertible proof and Pakistan will not provide it. And, in India, it has become a Modi vs. non-Modi rift. Facts are facts and should have no party affiliation. The US says that it checked all the planes and they are still there. It could be someone else's F16.
Pakistani pilots are known to fly Saudi and Egyptian planes.
It’s kinda hilarious how much Indian military, specially IAF downplays it’s achievements-
Shoots down a MiG 19 using the Su-7, doesn’t confirm the kill, later was found out to have destroyed the jet
Attacks Murid Airbase destroying multiple Sabres, thinks that it has blown up a C130 and 2 MiG-19s at most
Completely obliterates the Muntho Dahlo logistics base during Kargil war, thinks of it as barely a small objective whereas that was the primary logistics hub of Pak NLI (Btw, I will wait for you to do the Muntho Dahlo bombing)
They are a cautious service indeed 😁
Is better!!!....many AF believe the own propagand...
Indians are generally modest. We don’t go around proclaiming that our country is the best and we sure don’t go around making terrorism the biggest national export unlike a certain other religious group
@@16rumpole I won't say "Indians" per se, rather it’s Indian military who believes very much in this "humble" attitude
@ah mecorp we are the best it engineers & doctors in the world.
Congratulations to IAF for great air operation in 1971 wars. Jai Hind 🇮🇳.
You can tell the IAF pilots still love the hawker hunters while the PAF pilots also still love the f-86 sabres ever since both retired from service. Please do the history of Israeli Gloster meteor vs Egyptian de havilland vampire or more India Air Force hawker hunters stories.
I intend to cover some IDF/AF stories from the early wars, WT allows it with various available assets.
True @Spitfire sammons! Both were / are beautiful aircraft. I am currently modelling both in 1:48 scale in IAF and PAF livery.
Both beautiful beasts built for real men who fought there battles upclose and personal unlike those of today who don't even get to see their enemy the missiles are fired from hundreds of miles away.
Great presentation. You may want to make a video on an Indian pilot destroying Chuck Yeager's aircraft during the 1971 war. The pilot, Admiral Arun Prakash, then a Lieutenant, was from Indian Navy, a Sea Hawk pilot who was sent to the Number 20 sqn of IAF on deputation during the 1971 war and flew the Hunter. He lead a strike on Chaklala air base on 4th December where he first targeted a water tank thinking it to be the ATC tower, and then went on to destroy Chuck Yeager's beechcraft. Admiral Arun Prakash went on to become the Chief of Indian Navy
Thanks for the comment and suggestion! It would be an interesting video except that there are no general aviation airplanes in WT. Maybe if they introduce them someday.
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Gee…. a water tank and a Beechcraft…… quite the mission success.
@@olddiver PAF had moved away all its assets from the forward Chaklala air base, predicting an IAF strike. They forgot to inform Chuck Yeager though. The only aircraft at the base was his Beechcraft. It was still a significant raid, as it was seen as India's way of hitting back at US, the latter was supporting Pakistan in 1971 war. Infact the then US ambassador Edward Ingraham described in a book that how frustrated Chuck Yeager was, blaming the then Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi of instructing the Indian pilot to target Yeager's aircraft. He even sent a top priority cable to the Washington asking for "immediate countermeasures."
Edward Ingraham later described this incident as the Indian way of giving Uncle Sam ‘the finger’!
@@karmanyasharma9256 interesting.
I wonder what was Yeager doing here.
At the night of 8th Dec India would do Operation Python. These attacks on Pak airbases were a part of diverting Pakistan's attention from that operation. Granted it also helped to destroy Pakistani air capability.
Please make more videos of MiG-21s in East Pakistan, you can refer to "Eagles over Bangladesh". No 28 Sqn IAF
There was certainly a lot of fighting going on in the East and I hope to cover some of that in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@showtime112 I am bit biased because my recently deceased grandfather fought in that section, Wg Cdr later AVM BK Bishnoi.
@@JitendraKumar-tt3ht i googled him and wow, his service record is exceptional,may he rest in peace,and hope y'all are coping well from his loss.
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It’s the motto of indian airforce. Says “ touch the sky with glory “ and good hunting
Nice work Hrvoje! We appreciate your content of very unusual battles.
Thank you very much! I appreciate what you are doing as well!
Hawker Hunter is such an elegantly beautiful design
A classic indeed!
Fighter aircraft of the combatants in 1971
-PAF operated: f-86 (American f-86f and Canadair mark 6 versions purchased from Iran), f-104g, Mig 19 (j-6), mirage iii ea.
-IAF operated: mystere, folland gnat, hawker hunter, su-7, mig 21 (fl), and HAL HF-24 Marut
So we have a combination of: American, British, Chinese, French, indian, and Soviet designed all going into the cats paw.
That's pretty much it. Chinese didn't quite design anything, they rather copied someone else's design 😊
@@showtime112 it was still their main fighter and built in their factories so I count it as such
There was the HF Marut, an Indian plane
@@dragonstormdipro1013 thanks I forgot that one
Folland Gnat V Saber would good.
Indian Defence Forces is the best defence forces in the world. Jai Hind
The IRIAF raid against the H-3 complex April 4 1981 is probably the most succefull... 23 iraqui planes and 4 helicopters destroyed by a flight of 8 F-4 phantoms, two "D" and six "E" models...the iraqui commander and several officers were executed after the raid.
Once we get the Phantom in DCS, that is going to be a video for sure!
@@showtime112 I'll eagerly waiting for raid on that airbase also on Osiris reactor.
happy to have served under the later AirCmde Arun Laxman Deoskar VrC !
Thank you for your service Sir! Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Nice video my friend ! the Hawker hunter served in my country too and I always considered a beautiful airplane. Cheers
Thank you, It's a proper classic!
As usual, another balanced video from you. Your dedication to sticking to the facts and let them speak is commendable.
Thanks, I appreciate the positive feedback!
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IAF Raid over Sargodha AFB in 1965 Indo-Pak War is also very successful as it broke the back of Pak Military, more specifically the PAF as after 9th September 1965, the PAF Sabres virtually disappeared from the skies.
"... broke the back of Pak military... ", "... PAF Sabres virtually disappeared from the sky... ", wow, the delusions indians live in. I agree '71 wasn't our best year but '65 is a whole different story.
@Amjad Muhammad Iqbal sorry but 1965 was also a bad year for Pakistan, they just fought better that's it
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 I suggest you watch the interviews of Air Marshal Asghar Khan and Air Marshal Nur Khan (both CAS of PAF) regarding Pakistan's involvement and performance in the 1965 War. They are available on TH-cam, you can search them. Also I'll suggest you to watch Najam Sethi's interview regarding the 1965 War. I'm sure you'll get your "Delusions" cleared.
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 Also, as a side note, the only aspects of 1965 War, which you Pakis can be proud of are: MM Alam's utterly false claim of "downing 5 IAF jets in under a minute" and the so-called "Graveyard of Indian Tanks" at Chawinda. Apart from that, your Paki "Jarnails" know it best as to how woefully unprepared Pakistan Military truly was and how shambolic was its performance.
@@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 Ayub Khan created this false myth of 1965 War Victory which proved extremely detrimental for Pakistan as the Pakistan Military just did not learn from its mistakes and we all know what happened in 1971. 93,000 Pakistani Troops surrendered.
The Indian pilots can be considered world's no.1 pilots,who made their Sukhoi invisible to radars during red flag exercise,also made their Rafale invisible to radars during exercise with French airforce.They have developed such typical skills,amazing
iaf only has managed such capabilities in modi's wet dreams in reality the tea was fantastic 😂
Brilliant narration and description as always. Can you perhaps cover the the hunter raid on chaklala airbase where an Indian Naval Aviator admiral Arun Prakash who later went on to become the Navy Chief destroyed chuck yeager's beechcraft for which he's said to have held a grudge against the indian CNS for quite some time
Interesting story. I didn't know Yeager was here once. Wonder what he was doing here.
Thanks for the comment. Currently, I don't think this is doable since in War Thunder there are no civilian aircraft.
The Hunters would have been more effective if they had cluster bombs
True. The wouldn't have depended on luck such as in this case.
Now that's content, excellent animations and well researched. You earned a subscribe sir.
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Indian Forces are the best forces in the world. Jai Hind
Good presentation. I saw a couple of your videos and appreciate the content. Hope your videos also encourage Indians to play War Thunder. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the comment! If more Indians start playing WT, perhaps Gaijin will introduce the Indian tech-tree.
@@showtime112 I've started playing warthunder after watching your video's
@@showtime112 considering 99% of the Indian tree would be just British and then Soviet fighters... The chances are pretty low. Only at rank 7 or something will the Tejas and stuff get added
@@Pinaka120 Well, they did the Israeli tree and there's not a single original airplane design there. There could be the Marut which is an indigenous design. Also, Foland Gnat is currently missing from WT and Indian tree would be great to have it. Your argument against could as well be the argument in favor.
INDIAN AIRFORCE KI JAY 🇮🇳
since the Hawker Hunter Mk5 multi role interdictor strike fighter couldn't carry out strike missions at night, some of the Hawker Hunter Mk5 multi role interdictor strike fighter fleet featured first gen partial glass cockpit from Rockwell Collins & night vision . . .
Yo man! Your videos are always so good and the narration is on point! 🔥 KEEP IT UP!
I am very grateful for your feedback!
Aaaah! There you go again! Bravo, bravo, bravo!
Thank you for your comment!
EXCELLENT...CONGRATULATIONS. Another successful video about aviation history. I am still waiting for the Falklands air war, specially the Argentinians A-4 attacking the British Fleet. Thanks very much.
Thanks again, always nice to hear from you! You are right, I definitely want to do some A-4 missions from that conflict.
It’s too bad that the Indians were not as ingenious as the Pakistanis were. While the Pakistanis installed AIM9 missiles on their older aircraft, the Indians who had access to French missiles could have used them on the Hunter.
The Indians were much more ingenious lol. Just in different ways. The Battle of Longewala, where 120 Indian soldiers and 2 jeep borne anti tank guns went up against 2 Pakistani Mobile infantry brigades consisting of more than 2000 soldiers, around 40 tanks, a field regiment and 2 artillery batteries, and WON. They held them back till the morning when IAF could send air support. 35 tanks destroyed, around 500 vehicles abandoned, hundreds killed and the rest injured and retreated, for the loss of 2 Indian soldiers, 1 recoilless rifle, and the biggest casualty were 5 camels lmao.
@@AT-bo6ww the best part of Islamic Republic of Pakistan is that they have the best courage to fight a war that no one can
Just to surrender and create history 🤣🤣🤣
@@vivekanandan5093 😂porkistan ....hai hi porkistan
India was under pressure from United States of America to stop the war in Bangladesh and also asserted pressure on French to not supply and support the equipment needed to do those fittings of French missiles on British aircrafts India was also under British pressure saying don’t use hunters and NATS of British origin in that war pakistan didn’t had the knowledge and technology to fit those AIM9s in those aircraft that job was done by American technicians instead of all that international pressure we fough and won I think it’s the habit of white pple to interfere and comment on wars they practically and politically have nothing to do with proven by the fact u say that comment about a topic u have no knowledge of and have nothing to do with got my point gentleman
Indians for a long time had a habit of being anti india.
Can you make a video on Indian MiG-21s attacking the Dhaka government building during the war? It was a last second decision by the high command given to the MiG-21s armed with rockets instead of bombs, which would've otherwise done other sorties. The attack was so effective that the governor in the building instantly resigned and took refuge under a UN hotel
Haha there was only 1 squadron paf vs 10 iaf and dhaka governor house attack with no opposition . 🤣
😂😂
@@wownews1426 Skill issue. Shouldn't have started the war then
In 1971 war, India achieved full air superiority at easter sector within two days. While in wester sector it took 5 days to achieve full control of Pakistani air space.
1971 war witnessed might of Indian Navy. Indian navy destroyed one-third of Pakistani naval strength and lost only one frigate in process, it was the most successful Naval war in the world.
@Triband Have you searched before commenting? Don't argue against a well documented fact.
@@shantanusharma184 Bhakts cannot digest facts .
Good coverage of this part of aerial history. Great presentation as always, but then again we're watching Showtime112. Viva Showtime! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🔱💮🌸🏵️🏴☠️🏹
I always like to see the comment with plenty of little icons at the end of it 😁
@@showtime112glad you like it. I hope you can decipher the message. Later this month I will make a contribution to the channel.
I just made a donation as promised.
Also checkout the Sargodha and Peshawar airstrikes by the Canberra bombers!!! And Badin radar strike
Thanks for the suggestion! I like the Canberra and I'd love to make a video or two about some of the sorties it flew.
Leave this case aside. The bravery of sqdn ldr Devayyiya came into light through Pakistani Pilot only and that too after he retired from PAF. Then only IAF'S top brass were awaken and took action. Sqdn ldr A B DEVAYYIYA was awarded MVC ( POSTH ) in 1988 for his feat in 1965.
KAISER TUFFAIL is a very nice person. He's not bias. He saved Flt Lt NACHIKETA from certain death. He behaved just like senior should behave with his junior. He wrote a book " A HARD NUT TO CRACK" on IAF's only PVC Fg Offr NJ S SEKHON. He wrote, " SOME ENEMIES ARE ALSO RESPECTABLE ".
A lot of PAF action happened over the skies of West Bengal, hope you share such stories
There were quite a few dogfights there, I plan to cover some if them in the future.
Imagine parking those aircrafts in open, and after they are destroyed they complain about it lol.
I dont believe indian account is wrong, infact pakistani account is riddled with loopholes it doesn't make sense for adjacent sabres to just explode because onces on their side were hit. It looks more like all the disputed sabre loses that india claims in various other battles denied by Pakistan were adjusted with this story to maintain their propaganda
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Great narration and beautiful animation. Thank you. Just subscribed.
Thank you for the feedback and for the subscription!
WoW I wasn’t expecting another great masterpiece India Pakistan story, but nonetheless amazing history telling.
I recommend some hunter vs sabre action of East Pak.
Thanks for sticking around and not just watching Indo-Pak Wars videos 😁
@@showtime112 yeah 😁 I like those Vietnam vids and of course Israeli combat of those sexy mirages
I do remember my uncle telling me stories of 71’s liberation war
Thanks for commenting!
In East Pakistan air space indian air force dominated the sky.. Paf totally grounded and airstrip was totally damaged by iaf.
That's true. But the Pakistanis were heavily outnumbered, they only had one fighter squadron there.
Indian pilots are among the best in the world
Brilliant . .
I appreciate your comment!
😀India won 1971 war🚩♥️🇮🇳💪🏽
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@@showtime112 😁
Why does it always seem like Arabs cannot get one over on countries the begin with I.
Pakistan isn't Arabic (though they think they're)
The big dogfight between Pak F16, and Indian Air Force MiGs and Sukkois next, please.
This one was covered in an early video. It was widely unloved 😁
@@showtime112 really? Ugh, sorry. I bet it was fighting amongst the audience. Anyhow, love your stuff.
It seems like the narrative of 3 sabres nearby catching fire was made up by Pakistanis to account for the loss of their sabres that were downed in other dog fights with IAF. Its highly unlikley that fighter aircrafts will catch fire that easily by just being next to each other, also odd that 2 IAF pilots didnt see 5 sabres stationed next to each other but only 2 PAF aircrafts.
Thanks Showtime love the history
Thank you for the comment!
Great animation and VFX.
Request for balakot air strike and Pakistan's (failed) Swift retort.
Thanks for the feedback! That's a bit hard to do since we don't have all the proper assets in currently available simulations (exact variants of aircraft and ammo used). Maybe in the future.
Yeah! It was that much failed that we got Abhinandan prisoner and IAF was so confident that they destroyed their own helicopter killing 7 poor soldiers in friendly fire😂😂😂 Moreover, Mudi compelled to say"result would be different if we had Rafael" 😂😂😂😂😂
FLYING OFFICER Mr. Karumbaiah is a Kodava from Coorg .
Indian Air Force is the best air force in the world. Jai Hind
👍 Nice
Hvala!
lol, in 1999 during Kargil war, an IAF Plane had target on Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif. But when they confirmed that they are in Pakistan, they returned back. If they had fired the missile, it would've initiated a Nuclear war
Showtime112...how did you get the impression that I did not want to eject and become a POW?
There's an article on ndtv called 'Exclusive Details Of How Air Force Raided A Pak Air Base, Destroyed 5 Jets '. There's the link in video description. I always list my sources and if they are wrong, so am I.
In which airstrikr Flg Offr K L Malkani losy his life! In 1965 war. He was my college classmate whie he joined IAF in the last direct recruiting drive I hesitated although i too was selected. Amost handsome and exceptional all rounder
I miss him always
Sqn no 28 his name is there in National War Memorial
Pl reply.
A video on pathankot airbase attack by PAF Sabres in 1965 war would be a nice topic to cover.
I will cover stories from the 1965 War in the future.
@@showtime112 Thankyou for your reply.
Great animation.... New subscriber here
Thanks, I appreciate it!
There are lot more unreavel missions where us and UK airforce should respect iaf
The whole aspect of the Indo-Pak wars deserves more attention, I think.
Hey showtime 112 can you recreate indian naval Air arm in action during 1971
For now, probably not as I don't think there are enough assets in WT for it. There's a new game by an Indian developer which is all about the naval part of the campaign. It looks a bit raw but if they refine it, it might be useful for something like that.
Very nice depiction
I appreciate your comment!
Please make some vids about Bangladeshi air forces combats
Would love to see em
I think you might like the next video. Stick around.
Thing about Indo pak wars is that none of them are unprofessional armies. They both are competent forces. With different motives fuelling them. One fights for the naam-namak-nishan. (name, salt and sign - name of the regiment, salt of the country, flag).
The other one fights for Islamic win over a Hindu.
Huge difference. It's not about the individual pilots. Its about who are commanding the pilots.
⚠️One important note!
In 1971, during the conflict that led to the loss of Bangladesh, the renowned legendary American fighter pilot Chuck Yeager who was there in Pak at that time acknowledged the exceptional performance of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Despite the significant numerical advantage held by the Indian Air Force (IAF), Yeager stated that the PAF achieved an impressive kill ratio of 3:1 against its adversaries after himself counting the total downed wrackages. He stated on his personal website which you can access even today and also wrote in his biograhy book "yeager" about that war which he witnessed and said that The Pakistanies wiped their asses in the sky. Indians had freshly inducted soviet lastest supersonic mig21s and Su-7 bombers. And India lost 100 plus jets while pakistan lost only 34 of their outdated sabres and limitedly capable f104s And f86 which were in less numbers as well. He expressed his admiration for the professionalism and skill exhibited by PAF pilots during this challenging time.
The PAF's superiority was also evident in the 1965 war, where it outperformed the IAF despite facing overwhelming odds. More recently, in 2019, the PAF showcased its capabilities once again by shooting down two jets including SU30 and mig 21 , reinforcing its reputation as a formidable air force. The consistent excellence of the PAF across different conflicts highlights its enduring strength and professionalism.
Where's the 2nd pilot?
which game do you play for making hunter video???
It's War Thunder
Make a video on PAF Airstrike on Indian airfields at Pathankot in 6 Sep 1965.
I definitely need to start doing some stories from the 1965 War.
@@showtime112 Another suggestion/request: Please make video on hight altitude flying IAF Canberra, which was on a photo reconnaissance mission on 10 April 1959.
it was flying at high altitude, out of reach from sabres...you can read whole article @
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_Canberra_shootdown
It fun to watch how high sabres can fly in DCS, and how they struggle to match the altitude of canberra and executing energy climbs.
Showtime112. Pl refer to " bharat - rakshak " to find out the total IAF losses in both Sept'65 and Dec 71 aerial wars. It might surprise you that IAF losses were greater than the PAF. Then, have the courage to put up those figures correctly in a video for every to see. Even the followers can go to this Indian website and find for themselves the true picture of losses of IAF. 23 Hunters were lost by the IAF in Dec'71. Truth is being made a casualty by your Indian bias.
1:55 the 4 september 1971. 9 Hunter were Lost. Many shot down by Pak fighters and by AAA. So difficult to help you if i dont know the squadron and the area . May bé a former Belgian hunter converted in F56A s/n 8760 reg A462
Pilot F/L Muralidharan..KIA.
Pakistan have lack of memory . Dont remember the first Day of six days War 1967. A good Turkey shoot
This Hunter was flown by Flying Officer Sudhir Tyagi, of Pathankot-based No 27 Squadron. He was shot down by Flight Lieutenant Mujahid Salik. I might even cover that properly one day in a separate video.
@@showtime112 Hello mate. Just check on aviation safety.
F/o Tyagi was killed with his Hunter F56A A490 s/n8863- T168. Former Belgian hunter F6 reg IF-98. Rebuilt by hawker siddeley by retrofit.
Delivered 19/4/67.
However listed as shot down by Shenyang F6: mig19????
Hey Showtime. Any chance you could cover the Second Congo War (1998- 2003) in a future video?
Hello! I'm not sure, I'd have to study it a bit more to see what types were used and in what kind of missions.
Please make a video on the Battle of Srinagar. Flying Officer Nirmal Jit Singh Sekhon.
This doesn't look like dcs... is it?
No, it's War Thunder.
Which game is this???
DCS
No, it's War Thunder.
It's lovely to watch sabres of PAF in action . That shiny silver colour is amazing
It's a classic! There will be more Sabres on this channel in the future.
make a Abhinnandan mission now
Can you do a dogfight with israel Mirage 3 vs Jordanian hawker hunter it was on history channel dogfight
Not yet but it will be possible in the future.
What happened to this Air Force when Pak AF attacked Indian mainland on 27 Feb, a day after Balakot strike??
This looks satisfying idk why
As long as it does, who cares? 😁
One day Americans will declassify that they got rid of the Pakistani F16 wreckage shot down by Indian Mig 21 Bison to save face.... They awarded an Air force officer for exactly that.... Who was at the time stationed in Pakistan...
I wonder whether any of these India hawker hunters survived in museums?
Super graphics
Thanks for the feedback!
Can you make a video on Indian navy attack on pak's karachi port, it was a huge sucess
Currently no because there's no assets in the platforms I use. Maybe in the future.
EAGLES OVER BANGLADESH AND 28 SQN FROM HEAVENLY BLESSED IAF IN 1971 AND BHOOP WAS ATTACKING GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN 14 DECEMBER IN 1971 FROM GWAHATI ASSAM TO ENHANCE SURRENDER TO INDIAN ARMIES AND FREEDOM FIGHTERS UNITS OF MUKTI BAHINEE FROM HEAVENLY BLISSFUL BANGLADESH ARMIES IN 16 DECEMBER IN 1971 AS LIKE AS PAKISTANI LANGUAGES SPOKEN AS SAKOOT E DACCA IN 16 DECEMBER DANCE DRAMA FROM PAKISTANI NATIONAL ARMIES WITH GORGEOUS GRACE OF NATIONAL ANTHEM PAAK SAAR JAAMIIN SAAD BAAD KISHWAARE HASSIN SAAD BAAD... IN 16 DECEMBER IN DACCA IN 1971 WITH GRAND GALA FEST ON 93000 POWS FROM PAKISTAN TO INDIAN HELLISHLY HELL LIKE PRISONS IN 1971 FROM NEWLY LIBERATED INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN BANGLADESH AND BEYOND. IZAZ RASOOL MOHAN FROM BARIDHARA GULSHAN DHAKA BANGLADESH.
Please make a video on #Eight_Pass_Charlie
The story will very likely be covered someday. I need to unlock the B-57 in WT first.
@@showtime112 waiting for it . .
One thing i noticed is that the F-86 Sabre variant used for Pakistan here is some early one. PAF used the F35 & F40s while the No. 19 Squadron of PAF used Canadair Sabres.
This is F-25 I believe.
@@showtime112 war thunder does has f-35 & f-40s in Chinese tech tree
It's not about the weapons but the men behind those weapons.The Talibans with just AK47s managed to threw out and defeat both the Russians and Americans.
I read a heading of what he is teaching , gps , atcams is down to nanometee I suppose
What about Abhinandan's attack?
Please make that as well.
That one was made more than a year ago.
Is this on warthunder
It is.
IAF attack was violent and inevitable so was made fool by PAF by putting decoys on the two abundant air fields (i) Chota Sargodha (ii) Choki Bhagtanwala built by Britishers during WW2. The active air base was 9 miles away.
Jai Hind.👍👌
Well a mirage 2000 hit f16 in balkot strike ..but USA didn't let that news to be spread
Amazing story. But, the pakistani did not retain the lesson of the six days war, four years before, when Israel destroyed the main part of the enemy aviation like this.
Especially when your military base is very close from the border, it's a huge tactical mistake.
There should have been better dispersal, that's for sure.
@@showtime112 Yes, it's incredible.
@@dominiqueroudier9401May I ask where did you get the "9 hunter lost on 4 Dec alone" statistics?
Salut Jeanne. Les Pakistanais n'ont pas tenu compte de la guerre des Six jours ( le premier jour). Ça a été un tir aux pigeons. Néanmoins Ilya eu 9 Hunter perdus le 4 décembre. Et Bizarrement 4 Sabre détruit le 8 mais fiche avec marquage US???
Au fait bonne Pâques 🥚🍫🔔
Au fait bonne Pâques 🥚🍫🔔
It seems that the Soviets were producing more graceful if not more efficacious fighter planes than the British or Americans.
I guess that's a matter of personal opinion 😁
How many IAF jets Lost in East Pakistan 1971 ?
Over 100 only as per IAF web side.
YET LOST THE LAND AND THE PEOPLE AN FOLLOWED WITH A HUMILIATING SURRENDER.
jai hind vande mantram
Sea hawks ❣️🔥