This week, we're giving away our Rogue's Revenge, the hat with a covert black jack stitched inside. You'll always have a self-defense device on-hand (or on-head) and it features six glyphs inspired by classic Scam School episodes so you're never without inspiration at the bar or on the street. Find out more here: www.scamstuff.com/products/rogues-revenge We've got a free misfit Rogue's Revenge for three winners of our free giveaway at gimme.scamstuff.com (No purchase necessary, giveaway ends 9/10/2020). Misfit items may include small cosmetic blemishes, but are fully-functional. Congrats to the winners of last week's Badassify Your Wallet Bundle: Jim Johnson, Troy Wang, Scott Morgan, Elway Encinias, and Patrick Kuhn (we will contact you via email within the next two weeks).
*I did this in art class in highschool. Best and laziest 25 min of my life XD my partner and I watched TH-cam while it was doing its thing (we were watching modern Rouge!!!!)*
to the guy with the gray hair and is taller, stranger things take place in 1983 through 1984. So no cell phones. Also using a camera like that means the kid is an enthusiast in photography. Which means that even if it was taking place today there are though's in the hobby who use that type of camera for the unique quality it presents. The shorter guy is right about it being a dark room and everyone needs to understand that this takes place before the cell phone with cameras if cell phones were even around to begin with.
I was developing my own photos at the age of 14. my dad was a photographer in WWII and up to 1969 did portrait photography and weddings and other events, etc. I have been taking photos since I was 13, I am 67 now! I still have several of my SLRs like a Nikon Ftn several Minolta's SLRs and my dad's twin-lens reflex Yashica Mat 124 and Fuji 35mm SLR.
@@charliemiller9074 I went back to school again & got my 4th AA degree in Fine Arts Photography, & Painting were the majors, I could develop my own B&W film but the new chemical they were using for Prints I found out I was allergic to the fumes they gave off. I would get very light-headed and almost past out. that was in 2009-2011.
Ya. I started at 12, when my Grandpa gave me his old Nikon, steel frame. I took photos, not knowing much at the time. Started a photoclass the next year learning about f-stops, focal lengths, etc, and won a 2nd place at your Del Mar Fair in San Diego. For all of the 7th grade submitted photos. Continued through high school and some of college before my equipment was stolen when I was 20. I have been cell phone shooting since (I am 38) and know that my experience helps in those photos. I still have a very old flip top medium format camera. (2 1/4 by 2 1/14) but can't find film for it anymore. I would go out and shoot that, though I miss my filters that I used to have. A polarizing filter is so good. Love to hear from other photographers
When I was a kid in the 70's, my dad decided to turn my bedroom closet into a darkroom. I remember the red lightbulb well, and was fascinated by all the alchemy going on. Sadly, once I became bit by the photography bug, old school film started to be phased out.
Honestly, even though I use digital for 90% of paying work I love my old box brownie for shooting friends with. I also use 3 more modern (early 70s) cameras for occasional work that I bought to restore as a side project.
The very few film shooters here agree. Hahaha but they had fun, and at least they didn’t burn threw film like this. If they were this science adjacent with 35mm I would be losing it lol
Remember back in school doing this... but we were 'smart' in my group and cut up one piece of paper to dial in the settings before using the full sheets to give ourselves the most use. There was a few that didn't even get what Brian and Jason got.
@@Carbon2861996 I'm not sure if it does. I've never developed film before but I understand the concept. I think it could have ended up giving the photos a washed out look
@@kyfiss9176 Hmmm. At first I thought it was a reflection of Brian's or Jason's watch but the smudge was too consistent. If not that or the watch lighting up then maybe something gleaming while the tape was being taken off?
also, you need a real developer, a stop bath ((2% dilution of acetic acid or a 2.5% dilution of sodium metabisulfite ) which will stop the development then you must use a fixer aka as in Hypo (Sodium Thiosulfate - Na2S2O3-5H2O). because if you expose the paper to light it darkens again the paper turns black
The Dev they used is a crude caffeinol. They just didn't mix or prep it correctly. Caffeinol can develope film and paper quite well. But you're right for the stop and needing a fix. Those are much harder to homebrew
@@allensmithphotography, that's what I thought too but still, if you do not "fix" the print after the stop bath bu washing it or putting it in a fixer solution it will turn the print very dark gray. we did this in my Physic class to show how we can make developer in my HS back in 1970
Yes. Exposure causes the grains to get a dot or two of metallic silver on their surface. The developer feeds current through those dots and converts the rest of the grain to silver. Stop bath let's you control how long the developer works, since it can also convert unexposed grains, albeit much slower. But the unexposed grains are still light sensitive, causing fogging over time if left as is, through light exposure when you have it out of the dark. Fixer makes the paper no longer light sensitive, "fixing" the image. This is usually followed by a plain water wash, since leaving the fixing chemical on the result isn't the best thing. There are a number of chemistries through the ages. Investigate daguerreo-type and tin-type. And 73 N6KV de KE1G.
@@KeepEvery1Guessing, I know about that my dad used to make sure I washed his prints, we had Developer, then stop bath, then fixer #1 then Fixer #2 then washed them in a tumbler washer, I got to Dry all his prints. My two Daughters are Hams too, my oldest Daughter Annie (KB1WER Tech class) her husband Mike is a ham too N1AMD general, they live in Rochester, NH, my youngest daughter Paula is KC1ECN Tech class, she lives in Lee, NH. I'm ex N1DHD/ ex KA2KSR from NYC, moved to NH in 1982, I left NH in late 1995.
My dad developed his own photos as a hobby and i had a great and fun time doing it with him. Kinda expensive to start off, but worth it to do as a hobby or with ypur kids. Its so awesome seeing a picture made from beginning to end just the process alone is fun
Okay... very cool episode. My parents were professional photographers when I was growing up in the 80s, and my dad owned a studio, complete with fully loaded darkroom. He would also teach adult education classes on the subject. This brings back a lot of memories for me, though we had proper photo developers and fixers (I did NOT know you could make those with kitchen ingredients), and enlargers. Thanks, folks... it's much appreciated!
Your watch may be exposing the paper. I was a newspaper photographer in 2005 and a person answered their phone in the dark room and ruined all the photos for that weeks paper. Take your watch off.
Not sure what you mean, but during development in the dark room, Brian gets each photo out of the black box by using both hands, at which point the watch could draw a line over the still photosensitive paper. The lines are weirdly focused for his glasses to be the cause at that distance. But who knows, maybe he has concave lenses with the focal point near where the paper is. However, in the dark room there's no light to reflect, other than the red light and I doubt an increase intensity of red light will make a big impact on paper that does not react to red light. So, that leaves us with daylight reflections during the exposure time, i.e. the taking of the photo. Due to the pinhole lens of the camera obscura however, reflections from his glasses should cause a burn in over his eyes.
In the 80's we didn't have camera phones. I helped my Dad set up a darkroom in the loft of our old house. I remember when we mixed up the development fluid he described it as bucket chemistry.
Don’t worry Brian! Old school film isn’t completely gone, I had a high school art teacher show us how to do it along with modern photography. It was pretty cool, and I understand your “red room” pain lol
My high school used to have a photo lab that was used for photography class. The school district wasn't able to give extra money to run the lab. The photography teacher made a photography club to use the lab by doing fundraisers.
Wow, this was a great episode! Even though I wasn't alive in the film age, I still think the use of film and dark rooms is really cool! Your final photo turned off great, and I don't blame Brian for his rant in the beginning! Great videos guys!
I was fortunate to be able to take a traditional photography course in highschool (mid to late 90s), so there's a special place in my heart for f-stops and aperture settings and physical 35mm film. Even the tangy scent of the developer chemicals gets me nostalgic. However, I also love the easy point and click of my phone camera. It's not ideal, but it's definitely more practical.
Having done photography in High School for my Exploring Technology class I can attest proper chemicals and timing is VERY important for getting photopaper properly developed. Also, a pair of light amplification goggles might help too depending on the spectrum of sensitivity. Consequently, I love my DSLR and can't wait to try out my 1300mm focal length lens with 4x adapter sometime (Effectively 5200mm). Supposedly I should be able to view Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn with it.
@@JediSentinal While the lens I mentioned is at the point of "I'm mounting the camera to the lens, not the lens to the camera." that's just damn... Incidentally, the actual lens is about as long as my elbow to the tip of my middle finger.
I recently went to a photography shop with my father, and when I walked in, I had a sudden realization. The second my foot hit the first floor tile in that shop, I realized how film cameras worked....
Have been looking for a suitable craft/mod I can do while at home at during these tough times. Thank you Modern rogue now I can finally make use of my guest room toilet.
This was a great flashback to my photography classes in school. I had to wonder why you didn’t opted for masking tape to hold the paper in place. Masking tape does no damage to the paper or the box.
For future reference, you can rate photo paper at around 6 iso. From there, you can, depending on how fin your pinhole is, plug that information into a light meter to get a proper exposure time. So if you're using paper at 6 iso, with an aperture of roughly f/64 shooting in bright sunlight might give you a time of between 5-15 seconds depending on weather conditions. You should be able to find the exact iso rating on the website of the manufacturer's website!
In Boy Scouts they taught us how to make pinhole cameras and we all worked together to get them right for everyone. We practiced some still photography, B&W all, and we went on a tour of photodeveloper with a big darkroom. That done, our challenge was to use our pinhole cameras to present the best trick-photography illusion photos at the big half-yearly fund raiser troop meeting, competing for prizes and a trophy, and then auctioning them off.
you should make a camera obscura , it like a camera you can stand in the out side world is show upside down and backward on the opposite wall in real time. it's also a way to prove and make easier to understand that when people say our eyes work that way its turn.
I did this in 7th grade too! We had a third solution that the paper went in as well though. Hell if I remember what it was. I do not remember at all how we got it from the film to the paper. It was a lot of fun though! I loved using the dark room. At least, when I was developing paper with red light. Not as much fun when it was pitch black and I was taking film out of the can.
It's great fun and not difficult. I'd recommend either looking up caffeinol, the Dev they used, or getting a Dev kit. Also you can get details on pinhole cameras online and here on TH-cam
I know TV is basically dying since so many people watch everything online these days, but it would be awesome to see you guys get a show on Discovery or something. You'd immediately be the best show on the network and give them back some of the dignity they've lost by airing car shows half the time.
why did you paint the outside of the box but not the inside? The inside is the important part to be black because it removes the potential for reflections and glare. Also your photos are gonna fade or keep exposing because you didn't use a fixer.
As someone that grew up taking black and white photos and was going to college for photography in film format, as cell phones were still Nokias and Razors then, I sympathize with this comment. I tell people just learning photography to set cameras to manual and make them change the black and white settings. Thus you will start to grasp how things pop and show up in a photo. It teaches you depth of field, contrast, exposures, f-stop ratings and a whole slew of things. We are such a point and click with no actual photographic framing society now......my own rant over. I was little thrown off by the abstract developer and stopper though. A typical bath is developer, stopper, fixer, wash. Developer starts the process, stopper, stops the process, fixer dissolves undeveloped silver halide, and washer washes off all the chemicals. Last add in, rubberized tongs work better at not scratching the image too. The easiest way to agitate each solution is by lifting one end of the bath and then setting it down gently, istnead of moving it with tongs. Prevents scratching off of the silver. Don't mean to nitpick at all, but just my years of training kicking in. Hehe. Still a wonderful video!
I did this for my 6th grade science project 40 years ago. The biggest difference is I went length wise with pin hole to paper vs top to bottom. (and i actually bought developer, stop bath & fixer) I found that a 30 second exposure on my set up was adequate as long as I was careful with my time in the developer.
There's a kit company in Japan, Gakken, that had a 35 mm film pinhole camera kit for about 3500 yen ($30 USD), which I built about 10 years ago. The camera exposed negative color film, which could then be developed by any 1-hour developer service. Images came out fine, but blurry. Double exposures were fun, but difficult to make really convincing. Digital cameras are easier to use, cheaper to take thousands of shops, and easier to edit the images afterward.
Brian (pissed) - it s not a RED room ! it s a DARK ROOM ! Jason (smug straight face) - why dont they use their phone ? me bursts laughing to Jason delivery.
You would get much better results if use the actual developer and stop chemicals, also a flat bottom dish (like a casserole dish) would be better than a paint tray. For the camera itself, use a thicker aluminium, like from a soda can. you also want to paint the inside black. When developing have a 3rd dish with just plain tap water to wash off the chemicals after the stop. the real key is timing, its not a 30 seconds and done, it can take 2-3 minutes depending on your lighting
You guys should've done a bit more research before attempting, since exposure scales linearly with time. I.e., you should double the time for double the exposure. Having 10s increments doesn't make much sense. Having 20, 40 and 80s would have made far more sense (doubling of exposure every frame). Anyway, good effort non-the-less. Can't complain about the results much.
The photos getting darker after the stop bath is partially due to no wash bit also you need to then do a fixer bath that strips the remaining silver salts from the paper so that they don't continue to be exposed to light and develop.
I bet there's a lot of people who didn't realise this camera is the same way your eye captures light, the pinhole is the pupil and the retinas are the photopaper, your eyes lense allows you to focus more on closer or further objects. You might be wondering about the fact that the image created is upside down but that really is what happens in your eye, your brain just knows to flip it the right way round again. This means when you were a baby for a brief few hours or maybe even days after your birth, your sight will be upside down because your brain hasn't learned to flip the image yet, this makes people wonder whether or not this is what makes babies cry when they are born.
I had to make one of these for a school project. Mine didn't work too well, but it was fun. Edit: We had to do a bunch of math to make it work properly, though. It wasn't just put some paper in a shoe box with a hole in it and hope for the best.
@@andyherle We only had to do math to get the distance from the camera to the object correct. The distance between your film and your pinhole changes where the image will be in focus. Because we were all using different boxes to make our cameras, we all had different calculations to do. We also had to calculate the exposure time. This was four years ago, so I don't remember any of the equations. With all of this said, there is a very precise way to do this. But then again, that would be very Modern Rogue.
@@joaopedrosambatti2474 yeah. "notif" squad is VERY flexible. if im in my 'subscriptions' tab, ill get it up to 10 min late, if im in my 'personal' feed ill usually get it within one min 😂
This week, we're giving away our Rogue's Revenge, the hat with a covert black jack stitched inside. You'll always have a self-defense device on-hand (or on-head) and it features six glyphs inspired by classic Scam School episodes so you're never without inspiration at the bar or on the street. Find out more here: www.scamstuff.com/products/rogues-revenge
We've got a free misfit Rogue's Revenge for three winners of our free giveaway at gimme.scamstuff.com (No purchase necessary, giveaway ends 9/10/2020). Misfit items may include small cosmetic blemishes, but are fully-functional.
Congrats to the winners of last week's Badassify Your Wallet Bundle: Jim Johnson, Troy Wang, Scott Morgan, Elway Encinias, and Patrick Kuhn (we will contact you via email within the next two weeks).
I’ll take that Pancho please.
*I did this in art class in highschool. Best and laziest 25 min of my life XD my partner and I watched TH-cam while it was doing its thing (we were watching modern Rouge!!!!)*
Please do a video with brains dog of just trying to teach him cool trick (maybe even teach them to him in russian or german)
to the guy with the gray hair and is taller, stranger things take place in 1983 through 1984. So no cell phones. Also using a camera like that means the kid is an enthusiast in photography. Which means that even if it was taking place today there are though's in the hobby who use that type of camera for the unique quality it presents. The shorter guy is right about it being a dark room and everyone needs to understand that this takes place before the cell phone with cameras if cell phones were even around to begin with.
You guys are awesome
Brian talking about the importance of a dark room but putting a flare on every photo with his watch, is pure modern rogue.
So that’s what that was
I physically winced the first moment I saw the darn thing light up!
God I wnated it off so bad
@@thenoobsurvivor2001 what time?
I was just about to say that
Science has shown that the less reliable your equipment, the higher chance of detecting a ghost
this comment is underrated.
So 0 equals haunted
@@michaelpopup Well can you hold a ghost in your hand? Can you hold nothing in your hand? Coincidence?
@@ColonelSandersLite omg
I was developing my own photos at the age of 14. my dad was a photographer in WWII and up to 1969 did portrait photography and weddings and other events, etc. I have been taking photos since I was 13, I am 67 now! I still have several of my SLRs like a Nikon Ftn several Minolta's SLRs and my dad's twin-lens reflex Yashica Mat 124 and Fuji 35mm SLR.
As a 16 year old photographer, who loves learning about the past of photographers. This is really interesting.
@@charliemiller9074 I went back to school again & got my 4th AA degree in Fine Arts Photography, & Painting were the majors, I could develop my own B&W film but the new chemical they were using for Prints I found out I was allergic to the fumes they gave off. I would get very light-headed and almost past out. that was in 2009-2011.
Ya. I started at 12, when my Grandpa gave me his old Nikon, steel frame. I took photos, not knowing much at the time. Started a photoclass the next year learning about f-stops, focal lengths, etc, and won a 2nd place at your Del Mar Fair in San Diego. For all of the 7th grade submitted photos. Continued through high school and some of college before my equipment was stolen when I was 20. I have been cell phone shooting since (I am 38) and know that my experience helps in those photos. I still have a very old flip top medium format camera. (2 1/4 by 2 1/14) but can't find film for it anymore. I would go out and shoot that, though I miss my filters that I used to have. A polarizing filter is so good. Love to hear from other photographers
That’s got to be the best smelling photo ever
Without the context of this video but you said would probably get you arrested
@@mastrk3n I sure hope so
Minty fresh.
When I was a kid in the 70's, my dad decided to turn my bedroom closet into a darkroom. I remember the red lightbulb well, and was fascinated by all the alchemy going on. Sadly, once I became bit by the photography bug, old school film started to be phased out.
There is a resurgence of "old school" photography. No reason to not get into it.
They still sell film canisters on amazon if you want some
Honestly, even though I use digital for 90% of paying work I love my old box brownie for shooting friends with. I also use 3 more modern (early 70s) cameras for occasional work that I bought to restore as a side project.
Don't give it up! Analog is alive and well.
As a film photographer that uses 80+ year old cameras and a film lab tech, this was mildly painful to watch. Gotta love that science adjacent.
The very few film shooters here agree. Hahaha but they had fun, and at least they didn’t burn threw film like this. If they were this science adjacent with 35mm I would be losing it lol
Please make a video! I'd love to watch. I've gone and subscribed to your channel in case you ever do make one.
Remember back in school doing this... but we were 'smart' in my group and cut up one piece of paper to dial in the settings before using the full sheets to give ourselves the most use. There was a few that didn't even get what Brian and Jason got.
"Mildly" painful? This was like a low-rent episode of "MythBusters" - with Jim Carrey standing in for Adam Savage. 😬
why? I know nothing about the topic so it would be interesting to hear what could have been done better
10:26 Bryans Smart watch came on when getting the film paper out the box.
Ohh, good catch! That explains streaks.
@@Carbon2861996 I'm not sure if it does. I've never developed film before but I understand the concept. I think it could have ended up giving the photos a washed out look
@@kyfiss9176 Hmmm. At first I thought it was a reflection of Brian's or Jason's watch but the smudge was too consistent. If not that or the watch lighting up then maybe something gleaming while the tape was being taken off?
"I love how we're treating it like a loaded gun!"
Nah, we all saw how Brian treats a shotgun. You're treating the camera WAY better.
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Why did they handle a shotgun?
@@haroldbalzac6336 reasons.
Their editor really deserves a raise
also, you need a real developer, a stop bath ((2% dilution of acetic acid or a 2.5% dilution of sodium metabisulfite ) which will stop the development then you must use a fixer aka as in Hypo (Sodium Thiosulfate - Na2S2O3-5H2O). because if you expose the paper to light it darkens again the paper turns black
The Dev they used is a crude caffeinol. They just didn't mix or prep it correctly. Caffeinol can develope film and paper quite well. But you're right for the stop and needing a fix. Those are much harder to homebrew
@@allensmithphotography, that's what I thought too but still, if you do not "fix" the print after the stop bath bu washing it or putting it in a fixer solution it will turn the print very dark gray. we did this in my Physic class to show how we can make developer in my HS back in 1970
Yes. Exposure causes the grains to get a dot or two of metallic silver on their surface. The developer feeds current through those dots and converts the rest of the grain to silver. Stop bath let's you control how long the developer works, since it can also convert unexposed grains, albeit much slower. But the unexposed grains are still light sensitive, causing fogging over time if left as is, through light exposure when you have it out of the dark. Fixer makes the paper no longer light sensitive, "fixing" the image. This is usually followed by a plain water wash, since leaving the fixing chemical on the result isn't the best thing. There are a number of chemistries through the ages. Investigate daguerreo-type and tin-type.
And 73 N6KV de KE1G.
@@KeepEvery1Guessing, I know about that my dad used to make sure I washed his prints, we had Developer, then stop bath, then fixer #1 then Fixer #2 then washed them in a tumbler washer, I got to Dry all his prints. My two Daughters are Hams too, my oldest Daughter Annie (KB1WER Tech class) her husband Mike is a ham too N1AMD general, they live in Rochester, NH, my youngest daughter Paula is KC1ECN Tech class, she lives in Lee, NH. I'm ex N1DHD/ ex KA2KSR from NYC, moved to NH in 1982, I left NH in late 1995.
@@Screamingtut I couldn't get my kids interested. First licensed as WN2GHN in NJ, in 1963.
My dad developed his own photos as a hobby and i had a great and fun time doing it with him. Kinda expensive to start off, but worth it to do as a hobby or with ypur kids. Its so awesome seeing a picture made from beginning to end just the process alone is fun
Okay... very cool episode.
My parents were professional photographers when I was growing up in the 80s, and my dad owned a studio, complete with fully loaded darkroom. He would also teach adult education classes on the subject.
This brings back a lot of memories for me, though we had proper photo developers and fixers (I did NOT know you could make those with kitchen ingredients), and enlargers. Thanks, folks... it's much appreciated!
Your watch may be exposing the paper. I was a newspaper photographer in 2005 and a person answered their phone in the dark room and ruined all the photos for that weeks paper. Take your watch off.
That black wiggly line across the photos is probably your smartwatch
His watch isn't ever in frame, 1st photo it's behind him, 2nd and 3rd they're under his arm. Maybe his glasses reflecting light?
Not sure what you mean, but during development in the dark room, Brian gets each photo out of the black box by using both hands, at which point the watch could draw a line over the still photosensitive paper.
The lines are weirdly focused for his glasses to be the cause at that distance. But who knows, maybe he has concave lenses with the focal point near where the paper is. However, in the dark room there's no light to reflect, other than the red light and I doubt an increase intensity of red light will make a big impact on paper that does not react to red light.
So, that leaves us with daylight reflections during the exposure time, i.e. the taking of the photo. Due to the pinhole lens of the camera obscura however, reflections from his glasses should cause a burn in over his eyes.
@@EelcoPeterzen At 10:26 his smartwatch lights up while his hands are in the black box so they were definitely exposed to the light from it.
im more impressed with how good the digital processing is and how well it found details.
In the 80's we didn't have camera phones. I helped my Dad set up a darkroom in the loft of our old house. I remember when we mixed up the development fluid he described it as bucket chemistry.
Don’t worry Brian! Old school film isn’t completely gone, I had a high school art teacher show us how to do it along with modern photography. It was pretty cool, and I understand your “red room” pain lol
That thumbnail looks absolutely rad
My high school used to have a photo lab that was used for photography class. The school district wasn't able to give extra money to run the lab. The photography teacher made a photography club to use the lab by doing fundraisers.
that teacher sounds awesome!
I LOVE the timers on the text descriptions. Great idea!
I'm so glad you guys did this, I was planning to make these with my students for our physics class.
Every time Brian clapped to turn the lights off, the video started playing ads.
He is a magician after all
I know that nobody cares but I was thinking about pinhole cameras like 30 min before this was posted so I'm pretty sure I'm a certified psychic now
My god, you even knew that nobody cares. Truly your powers are beyond reproooaaach!
@@SgtLion Hahahahaha
@ We are mutually psychic lol
perfect choice of music for the decade you were going for., that song 'maple leaf rag" was composed by scott joplin in 1899.
Yay!!! I love pinhole photography so much lmao!!!! Film photography is so cool and deserves to be kept alive
Wow, this was a great episode! Even though I wasn't alive in the film age, I still think the use of film and dark rooms is really cool! Your final photo turned off great, and I don't blame Brian for his rant in the beginning! Great videos guys!
I was fortunate to be able to take a traditional photography course in highschool (mid to late 90s), so there's a special place in my heart for f-stops and aperture settings and physical 35mm film. Even the tangy scent of the developer chemicals gets me nostalgic. However, I also love the easy point and click of my phone camera. It's not ideal, but it's definitely more practical.
Having done photography in High School for my Exploring Technology class I can attest proper chemicals and timing is VERY important for getting photopaper properly developed. Also, a pair of light amplification goggles might help too depending on the spectrum of sensitivity. Consequently, I love my DSLR and can't wait to try out my 1300mm focal length lens with 4x adapter sometime (Effectively 5200mm). Supposedly I should be able to view Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn with it.
just imagineing a 5.2 meter long lens on a camera.... 😂😂
remembering a tall adult is roughly 2 meters makes it even better 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JediSentinal While the lens I mentioned is at the point of "I'm mounting the camera to the lens, not the lens to the camera." that's just damn...
Incidentally, the actual lens is about as long as my elbow to the tip of my middle finger.
I recently went to a photography shop with my father, and when I walked in, I had a sudden realization. The second my foot hit the first floor tile in that shop, I realized how film cameras worked....
Have been looking for a suitable craft/mod I can do while at home at during these tough times.
Thank you Modern rogue now I can finally make use of my guest room toilet.
why did they turn off the lights so fast they should have checked for a changling first Lol
Who do you REALLY think turned off the lights?
They had Dresspants-Robot-Man there to protect them in case of a changeling or Ch-ILD Attack
That would be cool if Jim Morrison showed up huh
This was a great flashback to my photography classes in school. I had to wonder why you didn’t opted for masking tape to hold the paper in place. Masking tape does no damage to the paper or the box.
One thing I noticed was a failure to agitate your paper in the developer solution. That would have also increased the contrast.
If I was still in elementary school, this would make a great science fair project.
I love how he says "I feel like I'm holding a bomb", like that's the more normal activity 😜
For future reference, you can rate photo paper at around 6 iso. From there, you can, depending on how fin your pinhole is, plug that information into a light meter to get a proper exposure time. So if you're using paper at 6 iso, with an aperture of roughly f/64 shooting in bright sunlight might give you a time of between 5-15 seconds depending on weather conditions. You should be able to find the exact iso rating on the website of the manufacturer's website!
In Boy Scouts they taught us how to make pinhole cameras and we all worked together to get them right for everyone. We practiced some still photography, B&W all, and we went on a tour of photodeveloper with a big darkroom. That done, our challenge was to use our pinhole cameras to present the best trick-photography illusion photos at the big half-yearly fund raiser troop meeting, competing for prizes and a trophy, and then auctioning them off.
This would be a wonderful book! ❤
I literally first learned about dark rooms through Catdog
Yeah, that one early 2000's cartoon had an episode with a dark room
I was literally watching the News video and as I was finished I wondered why there is a new one... And here I am 😍❤️
I'm actually studying this in college right now, you guys somehow managed to make it interesting!
"They whisper sinister secrets"
So where do I get these earbuds again?
On AliExpress, since that's where Ray J got them 😂
you could also consider a different product, apparently raycons are kinda eh... th-cam.com/video/iyzMSevpT2I/w-d-xo.html
Raycons are cheap made earbuds. I would suggest FIIL T1X earbuds.
Had to laugh brian said "lights vanish" and at the clap i got an add for colgate optic white toothpaste
to create the image from a negative you use an "Enlarger"
I was sold on the Photography rant in the opening. LOL
This has been something I've always been excited to learn
This is so cool bc I just started working on making a wearable camera obscura in engineering class and this video was surprisingly helpful!
I love the new titled sections of the videos.
5:00 The true origin of the term “ghosting.”
I learn more from youtube than at school
"on" or "from" would be a better word choice than "in youtube" for this sentence.
Well, the learning continues ^_^
Welcome to the internet our learning methods get updated daily not once a century
Welcome? lol i've been doing this for so long
you should make a camera obscura , it like a camera you can stand in the out side world is show upside down and backward on the opposite wall in real time.
it's also a way to prove and make easier to understand that when people say our eyes work that way its turn.
Best ad at end ever
I did this in 7th grade too! We had a third solution that the paper went in as well though. Hell if I remember what it was. I do not remember at all how we got it from the film to the paper. It was a lot of fun though! I loved using the dark room. At least, when I was developing paper with red light. Not as much fun when it was pitch black and I was taking film out of the can.
I really enjoyed when the channel How to Make Everything tried this. Think I should try it myself now!
It's great fun and not difficult. I'd recommend either looking up caffeinol, the Dev they used, or getting a Dev kit. Also you can get details on pinhole cameras online and here on TH-cam
hell yes, last time i was this early it was still being made
I know TV is basically dying since so many people watch everything online these days, but it would be awesome to see you guys get a show on Discovery or something. You'd immediately be the best show on the network and give them back some of the dignity they've lost by airing car shows half the time.
I got an ad right after "lights off!" *Clap Clap*
Further ads after clapping.
Modern Rogue asking the important questions; "How long should we expose ourselves?"
The Rogues go American Gothic was not a thumbnail I was expecting
why did you paint the outside of the box but not the inside? The inside is the important part to be black because it removes the potential for reflections and glare. Also your photos are gonna fade or keep exposing because you didn't use a fixer.
As someone that grew up taking black and white photos and was going to college for photography in film format, as cell phones were still Nokias and Razors then, I sympathize with this comment. I tell people just learning photography to set cameras to manual and make them change the black and white settings. Thus you will start to grasp how things pop and show up in a photo. It teaches you depth of field, contrast, exposures, f-stop ratings and a whole slew of things. We are such a point and click with no actual photographic framing society now......my own rant over.
I was little thrown off by the abstract developer and stopper though. A typical bath is developer, stopper, fixer, wash. Developer starts the process, stopper, stops the process, fixer dissolves undeveloped silver halide, and washer washes off all the chemicals.
Last add in, rubberized tongs work better at not scratching the image too. The easiest way to agitate each solution is by lifting one end of the bath and then setting it down gently, istnead of moving it with tongs. Prevents scratching off of the silver. Don't mean to nitpick at all, but just my years of training kicking in. Hehe. Still a wonderful video!
Found this channel in lock down and am I fucking glad I did? Absolutely
I did this for my 6th grade science project 40 years ago. The biggest difference is I went length wise with pin hole to paper vs top to bottom. (and i actually bought developer, stop bath & fixer) I found that a 30 second exposure on my set up was adequate as long as I was careful with my time in the developer.
For those with 3D printers, there are pinhole camera models on thingiverse you can print
Also, for those with aluminium foil and a box, you can make a pinhole camera
Good plug at the end.
Jason's voice would be so good for supernatural/paranormal podcast or show
Photography is super fun and they show it
Ive done this before at school. We used a big milo tub can, i was amazed
Love the super troopers reference 👌 enhance, enhance, enhance
i like the clap ad transitions
There's a kit company in Japan, Gakken, that had a 35 mm film pinhole camera kit for about 3500 yen ($30 USD), which I built about 10 years ago. The camera exposed negative color film, which could then be developed by any 1-hour developer service. Images came out fine, but blurry. Double exposures were fun, but difficult to make really convincing. Digital cameras are easier to use, cheaper to take thousands of shops, and easier to edit the images afterward.
Nice job man
Does anyone know what photographic paper works best? Or even a good reasonable priced brand is?
Brian (pissed) - it s not a RED room ! it s a DARK ROOM !
Jason (smug straight face) - why dont they use their phone ?
me bursts laughing to Jason delivery.
What a great ad
i remember using pinhole cameras in HS, there was a photo class that counted towards my Art credits, it was alot of fun
I'd love to see a retry in the future
Why does Jason always seem like an excited dog.
You just need a longer exposure time.
I've shot with a pinhole cameras and usually the exposure was around 3-5-6 minutes. :)
I know this comment is old, but do you stand by this advice? Helping my kid on her science project
We used paint cans in my high school photo class I had so much fun doing this
i made one of these back in the 4th grade and have been trying to remember how to make it for a couple years
Have you tried using Google
Brian taking a digital picture with his phone of an analog pinhole-camera picture is pure modern rogue.
YES THEY SEGMENTED THEIR VIDEOS, SO SUPERB AND PROFESSIONAL.
Also there is a formula to calculate the right time for the exposure
Love this type of content!!
You would get much better results if use the actual developer and stop chemicals, also a flat bottom dish (like a casserole dish) would be better than a paint tray. For the camera itself, use a thicker aluminium, like from a soda can. you also want to paint the inside black. When developing have a 3rd dish with just plain tap water to wash off the chemicals after the stop. the
real key is timing, its not a 30 seconds and done, it can take 2-3 minutes depending on your lighting
You guys should've done a bit more research before attempting, since exposure scales linearly with time. I.e., you should double the time for double the exposure. Having 10s increments doesn't make much sense. Having 20, 40 and 80s would have made far more sense (doubling of exposure every frame). Anyway, good effort non-the-less. Can't complain about the results much.
I really enjoyed this video
YESSSSS two of my favorite things, Modern Rogue and Cameras
The photos getting darker after the stop bath is partially due to no wash bit also you need to then do a fixer bath that strips the remaining silver salts from the paper so that they don't continue to be exposed to light and develop.
That whole rant in the intro made me feel old. Like, I still have old photos and cameras that use film, and even polaroids.
i wish they tried like an old style stay there for like 20 mins or something, i guess that would be kinda hard though.
what’s the best photographic paper for this? fastest exposure time?
4:22 blinding light warning!
man thats bright >.
I bet there's a lot of people who didn't realise this camera is the same way your eye captures light, the pinhole is the pupil and the retinas are the photopaper, your eyes lense allows you to focus more on closer or further objects. You might be wondering about the fact that the image created is upside down but that really is what happens in your eye, your brain just knows to flip it the right way round again. This means when you were a baby for a brief few hours or maybe even days after your birth, your sight will be upside down because your brain hasn't learned to flip the image yet, this makes people wonder whether or not this is what makes babies cry when they are born.
I had to make one of these for a school project. Mine didn't work too well, but it was fun.
Edit: We had to do a bunch of math to make it work properly, though. It wasn't just put some paper in a shoe box with a hole in it and hope for the best.
Zachary Gagnon-Hartman oh cool what type of math do you do to figure out what’s happening?
@@andyherle We only had to do math to get the distance from the camera to the object correct. The distance between your film and your pinhole changes where the image will be in focus. Because we were all using different boxes to make our cameras, we all had different calculations to do. We also had to calculate the exposure time. This was four years ago, so I don't remember any of the equations.
With all of this said, there is a very precise way to do this. But then again, that would be very Modern Rogue.
Brian clapped and summoned an ad.
Where is the notification modern rogues at?
Oh yuhhhhhhhhh
here
only time my youtube notifs work
Me 40 mins later: hehe thats me
@@joaopedrosambatti2474 yeah. "notif" squad is VERY flexible. if im in my 'subscriptions' tab, ill get it up to 10 min late, if im in my 'personal' feed ill usually get it within one min 😂
This is the budget myth busters
Would be really interesting to see you guys take a crack at home developing film?