Egypt's BRAND NEW Spanish Talgo Trains / Cairo to Alexandria in First Class
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Hello and welcome to Egypt for the first of a three video series, and my first video from the whole of the African continent!
These newly launched Talgo trains are a massive step forward for Egypt, bringing them right up to date with European Railway's comfort and safety standards. I'd been looking forward to checking these trains out for a while, and they certainly didn't disappoint... I hope you enjoy the video!
Date of Filming: 8/3/23
Camera: GoPro Hero 10 Black
Operator: Egyptian Railways
Departure: Cairo, Egypt
Arrival: Alexandria, Egypy
Cost: 900 Egyptian Pounds (£24.93, €28.15 $30.00)
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110km/h and 209km in 2hours 30min, so slow, people will drive instead, that journey should take 75min at most.
Hello I am planning to Egypt may I know the name of hotel that has rooftop in the video
@@nasalnasuha Pyramids Valley Boutique Hotel
I have been four times in Egypt and made several train travels, - eg Kairo - Alexandria twice, Kairo - Luxor twice, Kairo - Assuan Nighttrain twice. My first trip in that country was more than 40 years in very old GANZ sleeping coaches from Hungary……..you have to love that country and its railways!!!😅
Which was your favourite?
Greetings from Cairo. Welcome anytime.
Since 2009 I am living now in Egypt in Alexandria and took often the train to Cairo.....love and loved it and will do it soon again to have more time to get Cairo known more and more......My birth country is Germany, but I will stay here.....greetings to all :-)
Wonderful!
Do you pay the lower fare as for locals or the exponentialy higher fare as for tourists? Danke!
@@Advancedkid the higher one, unfortunately!
Welcome ❤
Long Live Egypt ❤
What a great video ! The Talgo stock is excellent, and I’m looking forward to the new Talgo stock for D.B !
You and me both! 🥰
The scenery here is absolutely fantastic.
Not bad is it 🥰
Gosh I would love to go there one day
Beatiful stations, especially Cairo! Seemed like a very nice trip.
It really was!
A couple of other African trains that you may want to look into for future videos are the chinese built Mombasa-Nairobi Standard Gauge Railway in Kenya, The Al-Boraq bullet train in Morroco, The Gautrain from Pretoria to Johannesburg in South Africa, and the Train Express Regional Dakar-AIBD in Senegal
There is a short article on the English (and Dutch) Wikipedia about the Senegal train, and a much longer one in French. Time to dust off my secondary education French...
Africa is a big place, so it'd have to be worth it for him to go there. But in South Africa, he could also take the legendary Blue Train. But it's not cheap. I looked it up, and the most luxurious accommodation is around 45,000 Rand. You have to divide by 20 to get the amount in EUR/USD/GBP.
€2200 or so might be stretching it a bit. And because he's always talking about "we", you'd have to double that.
Thanks for the suggestions 😃
Al-Boraq is really speedy train between Tangier, Rabat and Casablanca
@@ansariwp video coming soon 👌🏻
Algeria too had some pretty good alstom train and a big railway system why would ad it too the list
Really appreciate all your hard work
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
OMG! been following you for quite a while from Egypt, never thought you'd visit one day!
Thanks for the video!❤️🤍🖤
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻😊
The station buildings are beautiful!
Welcome to Egypt 🇪🇬🕊
Thank you 👍🏻😊
He last time I came to Egypt was 10 years ago. I hope I get a chance to visit again, maybe this year, maybe later. 🤔 Actually, I am a Seaman, and I was in Egypt in 2014 and 2015 with the Ships I served on.🛳 We entered the port in Alexandria and passed through Suez twice. (20-04-2023)
Wait sir couple years many project start in Egypt...
Lovely video - Talgo really seem to be going for it which is great. In 1998 we did Cairo to Aswan overnight - stunning and so exotic. We came back on the day service stopping in Luxor. Wouldn’t it br great if one day you could ride Cairo to Cape Town by train?!!
I mean it’s technically possible (with a few small sections without trains) But a trans-African railway would be welcome
Would be amazing! But technically crazy 🤣
There is actually a project planned for this
@@aadlym never gonna happen 😆
@@NonstopEurotrip. Yes i was just saying there is a plan, to actually do it is another story :D
Wow.. very creative railway technology!
Glad you enjoyed this 😁
Egypt is a great railway country, pitty most tourists here just stay in resorts while there is so much to see. Would also be great if there would be ferries to Europe.
The forginer ticket prices though, I understand it but i think it's absolutely not okay to do so.
Completely agree 💯👍🏻
I understand it as well, and while I don’t think it’s okay by any means, the tourist prices are still reasonable in relation what most people would be used to from their home country for the same class and distance. I’m Swedish and you can easily pay twice that price for a second class ticket between two major cities here and a journey of a few hours. A one way ticket for me to go to Gothenburg (40 minutes by train) is I think around €9 now or even more and that’s with using the travel card for the regional traffic (you top it up and your ticket prices are discounted when paying with the travel card vs using your phone or bank card to pay for the same trip)
@@ReyOfLight
But think about this, the wages of the Railway workers are higher in most of Europe, too, compared to Egypt.
Used to be ferried to Greece
why is it not okay?! its okay because in egypt the government subsidize tickets for egyptians. respectfully why would it subsidize tickets for foreigners? what foreigners pay is the fair price its just that alot of services in egypt are subsidized so that Egyptians can afford them. That includes musuems, trains etc. we used to be a socialist country actually
Beautiful countryside, would enjoy riding this train. Thank you for sharing your experience in Egypt!
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Hope egypt's economy progresses as it stabilised with new found lng. And find a way to resurrect the sunken ancient port of Alexandria.
An excellent review (as per usual), but the production values of this with perfect music and editing make it amongst your very best. Thanks. 🙂
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching Chris 😁
in August on the 18th you should try the fast train in Indonesia because in that month the new Indonesian fast train will be inaugurated
I'll be there 😉
About the doors. It could be that to save energy. No AC air waste.
I think it's a security measure
The class 66 is not only for the UK, they are also found in the rest of Europe in Germany among others, they are stil called 66 (T66), they are build in USA.
True, but they're called Class 66 everywhere in Europe. The most obvious characteristic of these locomotives is their small (for continental European standards) profile.
@@SeverityOne For the European Standard gauge (same as in the UK) they are fine, i dont't think that there are any i countries with broader gauge, like Spain, Portugal, Finland ect.
@@nielspetersen9458 Severity One meant the overall shape of the locomotives, which are build to fit the smaller clearance outline in the UK and thus have a somewhat "tiny" feel in the rest of the continent.
@@stephanweinberger "Loading gauge" as opposed to "track gauge".
@@evaluateanalysis7974 yes, "minimum clearance outline" is just another term for that.
Really thank you ...excellent video...
Please follow up the fast trains that will be operating by the end of next year...
Also make sure that you catch up with the Cairo monorail, east greater Cairo one...and give us your thoughts..
Thanks, will do!
great train video
Thank you very much!
Great video mate, loved the intro and the pyramids, has got be Jealous. Like the shoutout for SuperAlbs yewww. Good like a nice train.
Glad you enjoyed bro. What a legend that Superalbs is eh 🙃
Congrats to egypt for your new rolling stock. It feels so fresh and modern european style. I wish this continue to serve more people around to have a better choice to rail travel . And hope it eill expand connecting to neighboring regions connecting to europe for touris a like
Let's hope so!!
Talgo could manufacture new trains for HS2 if Phase 2 does get the go ahead. Very nice 👍
I hope not 😅
it would not be with this model. It will by with Talgo AVRIL :-). It was discarded
@@jlbuenomeandro I'm not surprised. that would be a terrible idea.
Something for a bucket list...
the accompanying music background is phenomenal 😅
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Loved your vlog ❤Thanks
My pleasure 😊
Great video and background music. Sounds like straight out of the old Agatha Christie film Death On The Nile ! 😊
Thanks very much 🙏🏻😊
P.S. I’m glad you ended the video with a bit of the harbor of Alex. I enjoy your videos. They’re informative and delightful in that you don’t egotistically yak away like on so many others. You asked about experiences on Egyptian Railways. In the late 70s and then again the the 80s I took the train, second class, to Aswan and Luxor. Then, spitting and smoking in the carriages were de rigueur. Weeks ago, no smoking, at least in first class. Alex is wonderful. The country is so poor because everyone is in the thousands of cafés smoking shisha and not working. Again, such wonderful people, up in the top five for me out of the 80 to 90 that I’ve visited.
Sounds exciting 😃
Fantastic video🙂 thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
@@NonstopEurotrip welcome,do checkout my youtube channel,you will find new Indian train videos🙂
Great video !!
Thanks!
Beautiful train at egypt🎉 i will ride soon. Anyways can u try indonesian luxury sleeping train gen 1 please? It's so comfortable and you can try first indonesian high speed train on august month
I will try!
Greetings! Just learned of your channel via Steve Marsh’s channel. Enjoying your content. Thank you for sharing. Best wishes from Amarillo, TX USA
Thanks and welcome along 😁
When on business, I travel from Luxor to Cairo on the morning service and get a local guy to purchase my ticket at the standard rate for me. Also, the BEST chicken sandwich I have ever enjoyed is served on that train from the trolley. I kid-you-not, there must be an entire breast of chicken between the bread, and lovely salad too. Thanks for this review of the new Cairo-Alex service, must travel on it when next going to the Alex Bibliotek.
The sandwich sounds more tempting .
Very nice coverage 👍
Thanks a lot 😊
lovely country and railways though, I got an opportunity in 2023 to use trains in Spain and Morocco, no doubt Spain train industry is fantastic, really enjoyed
Completely agree 👍🏻
I'm not sure that the foreigner price is too much or not but the local price can be very cheap normally because of the government subsidy otherwise lots of locals can't afford it. Of course the train investment needs to make profit..
18:32 It's called... "security"! 🤓
14:40 Talgo has NO axles! :)
Yes, many people get that wrong. The wheels between coaches are independently running one from another, not connected.
Too hard to explain 😅
En español usamos la palabra "rodales". No se como traducirla. Ejes-axles. Rodales-???
Only 110 I’m/h? I wouldn’t believe that’s a Talgo train at that speed! Hope they couple them trains with a faster locomotive and smoother tracks
We'll see!
The locomotive can go 160km/h. I think they are still upgrading the signaling and either the speed limitation is for safety reasons, due to traffic on the track or because it might be even less comfortable?
thx for the video and another good news is that talgo gonna build a factory in egypt
Really?
@@NonstopEurotrip yep
Nice coaches, but it's a shame the seats do not line up with the windows in 1st Class (a common problem nowadays). I am taking this train in a few days time so this video is a useful interaction. Thank you.
Have fun!
I've ridden the old regular express trains of ENR a lot (the "Spanish" trains as they were confusingly called, not the "Turbini"). The Talgo is definitely a huge improvement and it looks like Ramses station has also had a really deep makeover from when I last saw it - things are definitely finally moving for ENR. They've needed a proper upgrade for a while, and it's great to see they're getting it.
Sadly, I think the ride quality and slow speed is symptomatic of the dilapidated state of the track infrastructure. There are supposedly plans for a high speed network underway, but the choices of routes for it seem a tad eccentric to be brutally honest, and I think for now ENR would be best focused on rehabilitating their existing track first of all, or restricting the initial HSR route to Cairo-Alex, rather than the long and economically dubious route from Ain Sokhna to Mersa Matruh.
I agree. Priorities eh
they are renewing the tracks actually in that route, it will increase in speed. i don't understand how is the route from ain sokhna to marsa matruh econonmically dubious? the order from siemens won't just be commuter trains, there are also freight trains for the carrying of goods between the meditarnean and red sea. cairo alex doesn't make sense as high speed honestly not that many egyptians will use it
I just travelled in July by train, first class, from Alex to Cairo. I had to pay 775 pounds. On the ticket was written 80 pounds. The bureaucrats must have been talking to the Indians, though at least in India there’s no foreign price on the trains, only parks, etc. The main hall in the Cairo Ramses RR Station is most impressive, a real art deco gem. The Egyptians are a lovable bunch. If only they could deal with the rubbish as the Prophet Mohammed ( PBUH) implored.
Last phrase is unnecessary tbh.
Not a bad looking product at all. I wonder what equipment they used before purchasing from Talgo?
Various.. mainly Chinese and Russian built loco hailed coaches. Most still in use now.
I took that exact same trip in November 1968, the train was called (the Myger ( Hungarian) Diesel ) MADE THAT SAME TRIP IN 2 HOURS ONLY
I do agree that different prices for tourists will impact the attractiveness of this options.
Yet, the tourist price is the 'actual' cost' + fair markup for most of this services according government releases.
Most of these services, and Oil based products is subsidised by the government, e.g. 1L of premium gasoline in Egypt cost 0.29 Eur vs 1.90 Eur in countries like Germany. This difference comes to from taxpayers' pocket who are not obliged to pay for a non-taxpayer (Tourist). Egypt actually import some of its Oil at international rates, or loose the opportunity to sell its own production at the international rate.
It's far more expensive per km that most western European railways, which are far superior
I was on a journey from Cairo to Luxor,southward.I returned to Cairo by plane.I did it many years ago.Nice trip indeed!.I knew Aswan as well.
Very cool!
@@NonstopEurotrip Yes,it was!.I want to know the north coast-Sharm El Sheik and Hurgada-and,of course;go to Alexandria as well!.Ii the far south is located Abu Simbel.I´d like to visit this place ,too!.
I love the pyramids to start the video out!
Had to, didn't I? 😀
@@NonstopEurotrip totally!
Just a quick info, Alexandria railway station is the oldest among Egypt and Africa
❤ هيئا لمصر
I was ready 😁
The ticket prices are still cheap...$30 for first class, for a 130 miles...I don't know about Europe, but good luck finding something that price in the U.S..
It's quite expensive even compared to most of Europe
Everywhere people are taking advantage of tourists. Of course and that's fair.
Why?
@@NonstopEurotrip Make the effort to think.
Love you ❤️❤️ BRO 😘😘❣️🤗
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Great video. Love the soundtrack at the end.
Glad you enjoyed it my friend 😌
A little clarification is that Sidi Gaber station isn't in the outskirts at all, it is pretty much a central station as well as Alexandria Main station and may even be considered more central than Alexandria Main station itself, given that usually most passengers get on/off from Sidi Gaber rather than the main station itself.
As mentioned in the video
I did this route in 2004, train was OK but the toilets could only be described as something from the apocalypse, I don't think they'd been cleaned since the train went into service!
Some are still like that 😉
Thanks!
Thanks so much for the support 🙏🏻😀
Very unusual railway journey I would say!
Many thanks!
those diesel locomotives are❤❤
🥰🥰🥰
Really excellent video, and I do see this happening for the Egyptian Railways a modernization. Perhaps there can be a Talgo Carriages fit for UK Loading gauge like the class 66 locomotive
Hopefully not 😅
Nice train 😊👍
Thank you very much!
The real cost + a bit profit of a ticket is actually 900 EGP, so they are not taking advantage of tourists, instead they don't want to put a fair ( high ) price on Egyptians.
Yes, I understand it's descrimination
Egypt has definitely degraded in the tourist industry. Many of my relatives and friends have had an awful time there. Such a shame because the country has such fascinating history.
What is your complaint exactly?
I agree. There is an awful lot of scammers trying to rip people off.
@@nohamohammed2625
Well, it's all the scammers and the constant persistence from local vendors. They keep closing in on tourists and don't leave any personal space. Some of my female relatives faced some harassment and stalkers too. They were dressed very modestly yet that doesn't help sometimes. I have seen TH-camrs being harassed for filming in Egypt by officials even when they are actually promoting the good sides of Egypt. Many more things like that. Its sad because I am sure that most Egyptians are not bad. Most are suffering from economic problems. But still, some of the behaviour displayed by some, is unacceptable. It will only hamper tourism.
@@NonstopEurotrip
It's quite sad. Some places in India have this issue too. Its unacceptable. Harrasing tourists will only drive them away
Tourists equal money money money, if you are poor you would want to take advantage
You enlightened Egypt, dear
Why do you think so?
@@NonstopEurotrip it's an Arabic saying 'نورت مصر', it's like saying welcome to Egypt. I guess they tried to translate it online and it gave a literal translation.
ربنا خليك يا محترم ❤
مترجمش بالحرفى يا اهطل معناها مش كدا بالانجليزى
Nice.....first time seeing an Egypt train travel vlog....looks far greater than our Indian trains.....though we are also improving.....❤
Some are, some aren't ✌🏻
Very nice
Long trip..
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
i've ride the Cairo to Alexandria train by 1982, it was very different.
When i wanted to buy tickets in the Cairo station, there was a huge queue, that was standing still, no tickets were sold, but everybody still waited there, it turned to be the queue for locals, they were waiting for the opportunity to get some tickets in some future, they couldn't tell when they're ride will be.
When they spotted me as a foreigner, they took me inside ticket office from a side door, and sold me a ticket for the train that left a couple of hour later, they explained me that they promote tourism, therefore foreigners can have a ticket at once
Wow what an experience 😂
But now this situation in our country has no longer be a regular situation or necessary situation , most places in Egypt people will communicate with you as an Egyptian arab man
No longer discrimination
Maybe in some places they're still with the same stupidity of old generation but after 2011 demonstration everything had changed
But small tip if you want to visit Egypt
Be a wise tricky man to avoid hastlers in Egypt and fluent in Egyptian language to be smart in the general market
And no discrimination here I don't mean we'll gonna be rude with you
Absolutely we 'll be so friendly with you as a foreigner but we all together in 1 ship
What if I don't look like a typical foreigner . Really strange experience.
Wow fantastic vlog, love the Cairo train station! A few things, the tracks need replaced with modern ones (I guess the continuous welded type?) The seats looked incredible even in Second Class! Wish they had wifi and the entertainment. Lastly about the price, I think its correct that they mark up the tickets for foreigners, $30 for 130 miles is okay! Try going by boat, or Taxi/Uber or take a flight and then tell me how long it would take and the cost would be huge! For a tourist or businessman visiting Egypt once or twice a year the cost is fine...Lastly, they do need new engines.
I disagree on the price purely because it is discrimination based on race. What if there should be a quid pro quo in countries that have extortionate train fares such as the UK to give "foreigners" a discounted fare - how well do you think that would go down with the locals?
they are actually replacing the tracks . and for the price, its because egypt subsidize alot of sevices to egyptians, including train tickets
@@Lakesider52 there is a big difference between discrimination and subsidizing services to your tax paying population who will never be able to pay the full price without the subsidies . last i checked the UK didn't have a huge population under the poverty line. BTW , students also get big discounts (egyptian and foreign), is that also 'discriminatory"??
I agree. While I don't mind paying extra, this is taking the mickey
@@rowantharwat9195 You can dress it up however you wish but it's still a discriminatory policy. The rail fares in the UK and many other European countries are subsided by the taxpayers but there are no extra charges for "foreigners."
When I saw the title I thought carpets would be nice. For you my friend, I make nice special price
Very funny Jack 😅
I'd imagine they came up with the "foreigner" pricing after they realised they would need to charge European-level fares to recuperate the cost of their new European-level trains.
Hmmmmmm!
Maybe it’s a security/convenience fee. If a tourist gets attacked on a train, that’s a national disaster for the tourist industry, so they need extra security for the whole line to keep them safe. And they need English speaking staff around to make sure those tourists don’t get lost. Plus, there’s the assorted tourists who get drunk or graffiti things or ask too many questions about the government, but who can’t be exactly be processed through the normal Egyptian criminal system and need some delicate handling to avoid an international incident. All that special treatment costs money.
Nice trip!
that is taking advantage of tourists to an extreme.
Yep 😬
Train tickets are subsidized in Egypt for Egyptian citizens so any foreigner pay the original ticket price
@@MohamedAshraf-vx5vw still taking advantage to an extreme
L❤VE YOU
Tourism is a luxury. NOBODY is entitled to a subsidized train ride EXCEPT for locals.
Discrimination
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Hello there!
Great video and a wonderful experience., honestly I wasn't expecting it to be that straightforward - and I'm happy you neither ended up in jail nor with a confiscated camera 😂
Me too bro 😅
It will be interesting if you try indonesian train especially high speed train that will open in jully. And not to mention that jakarta commuter train was a used japanese train that build in the late 70s
I will! 😁
The concept of 'chip butty' existed in Egypt!
I hear they're now sold on the mean streets of Cairo 😝
@@NonstopEurotrip haha it's called sandwich batates
Very beautiful scenery although is flat😊
That looks like a nice train ride
It was!
@@NonstopEurotrip the food looks kinda sad tho
What’s this new foreigner ticket increase? It’s like all journeys cost 400% more so no more cheap spontaneous travel ?
Pretty much...
travelledfrom Luxor to Giza on night train it was nothing like your train though the most arduous journey took 10 hrs was sheer misery.....but ay least managed to go inside the Khufu pyramid and the Cairo museum
I did the same 👌🏻
2 good.
My family enjoyed your excellent and informative pleasure journey. Thanks.
Raza
Pakistan.
My pleasure 👌🏻😃
Hail Egypt! The land of the pharaohs
Oh yessssss 🙂
You should travel by " Vande bharat " train in India.
Already have. Both of them!
I can't find your video of Vande bharat train.
Did you find out why the doors are not automatic? It seemed very strange to me too. This is the first time I've seen a Talgo train without automatic doors. The other passenger cars they just bought have manual doors, too. I still can't understand why automatic doors are still considered a luxury.
I think it's more to do with security
@@NonstopEurotrip The reason told to me was not security, but reduction of possible maintenance issues from the more complicated automatic systems and also reduce the need for spare parts. This also explains why the internal automatic doors are disabled and used manually.
Traveling to Egypt this June..Could u pls share the name of the hotel you stayed in Giza ?...with spectacular view of the pyramids !
Pyramids Valley Hotel
Many thx. Any idea when these trains will come in on the Cairo to Luxor route please
There is one night service already, but without beds. Strange choice. I heard they might be getting talgo sleepers tho!
Good video! I’m going to Egypt in a few months and heard about these trains. I can’t find out any where if the Luxor run has actual sleeper rooms with a toilet, for instance. Do you know? Are you expected to sleep obernight in the seat?
Yes, there is:
twitter.com/nonstopeurotrip/status/1632074615051673600?t=CVKGDI9kyRloJItOWL2XIA&s=19
Eygpt taking advantage of Tourist. Gosh ......................SHOCKER!!!
😬😬😬
Yep no surprise there, I went there first in 1990, doesn't seem much has changed
Train tickets are subsidized in Egypt for Egyptian citizens so any foreigner pay the original ticket price
Hope some day you visit india and i get to meet you too great video
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there will be any High Speed trains Railway on Egypt in the future ?
One day.....
Yeah, the new trains from cairo to the new administrative capital
Just an FYI, the reason why tourists pay more than locals is because the Egyptian transport network is subsidised through taxes. So locals pay less because their taxes fund the transport network to begin with. Taxes funding the network allows transport to be more accessible and affordable to everyone.
Yes, it's called discrimination
Goood video