Drawing Animals Based On Medieval Descriptions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2021
- Julia challenges Nathan, Jacob, and Karina to draw animals based on the way they were described in medieval times.
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I think that by “so wild that no hunter can approach it”, they actually meant it was very easily spooked so it checks out with what the animal actually is.
a call out post on the skill of hunters.
That's correct! My bestiary says, before the line that no hunter can approach it, that antelopes have "very keen hearing"
Yeah, I was drawing along with the descriptions and I drew a deer like creature, gave mine a bunch of extra eyes for fun tho
@@human-tk2fo omg, that’s such a cool idea, to also draw along with them
Not sure how they end up stuck in trees though, lol.
"I am born of corruption and I will not have sex" is actually my motto as an ace person
same
As a fellow Drawfee Ace, I second this motto! 💜
@@victorvictoria9525 and i third this motto!
ace gremlin here. i absolutely felt seen when julia read that line
Ah yes, our line as Ace people UwUr
For clarification, it is important to recognize that the word "bird" did not always have the meaning it does today. It used to refer to ANY creature that had wings and could fly, including some insects. So referring to a bee as a "bird" does in fact fit the old definition of the word. There are also bees known as "vulture bees" that use the corpses of animals to make honey instead of flowers, which explains why they found them in oxen.
That's hardcore, where can I get some corpse honey
@@SonOfMeme meat honey 😌
Maybe the vegans were right about honey
Unless there's a genus I'm unaware of (and couldn't find with a quick Googling,) vulture bees are exclusive to the New World. I think what was described here was more likely a wasp, and that "bee" had a similarly looser definition like you pointed out about "bird."
The description also included that they could be revived by burying them and placing an ox on top. This could either be a misunderstanding in which they mistook new wasps arriving as the buried wasps "reviving," or it could indicate some species of burrowing wasp.
Yoooo that kind of bee sounds metal
“It’s a horse with anxiety.” Except, all actual horses have anxiety.
one time a friend of mine said that horses are basically fast couches with anxiety and that's pretty accurate
Wild horses on the other hand.
Very anxious
shhh they don’t know what a real horse looks like
Accurate. I mean mostly I definitely know a couple that don't really care about 96% of things
“All bee do is:
• Choose King
• Have War
• Make Honey
• Eat Hot Chip
• and Lie”
-Karina, 2021 😂
23:08
This absolutely needs to be on a tee. Have War, Make Honey Drawfee merch!!
She unlike bee tells the truth
I want a sticker of this XD
she's right . especially about eat hot chip.
once more i am reminded that Drawfee Show is just one long origin story for how Jacob becomes the Villain
The Golden Age of Berserk but with Mugs
Ok but like Jacob is becoming the Villain but he’s more of the comic relief type villain that struggles to actually be evil but then he randomly gets inspiration and just goes ham. Julia is definitely a large inspiration for his evil moments… The boi is p much like the face of evil but Julia does all the real creepy stuff that gives him that moment of evil inspiration. Like if Doof never got Perry as an emotional support Platypus or somethin lmao.
Lol, I've been trying to get Drawfee to draw their villainous origin story for ages.
Jacob: We show you that every episode!
I haven’t even watched the episode yet but this comment tells me it’s gonna be good
@@alexi___4279 i imagine there's a whole big climactic decline for jacob into villainy... but he just comes out the other side a James from Team Rocket
Fun fact: Crocodiles actually do shed tears when they eat. That’s because they hiss and huff a lot while doing so. The air forces through the sinuses may mix with the tears in its lacrimal (tear) glands, and they empty into the eye
thanks science side of tumblr
To add to that, many reptiles that live in the ocean expel excess salt through their tear glands. This includes marine crocodiles like the Indopacific saltwater and American crocodiles.
I came here to say this, but also this one reason isn't the only speculation in the science community. There are at least two other explainations, none are 100% known.
@@The_Ossifrage this is literally where the term “crocodile tears” comes from - it’s a biological feature that has nothing to do with sadness, just like manipulative techniques such as crocodile tears
The explanation I grew up with, is, that when they eat, the food presses against their tear glands when they bite, forcing the tears out, like when you press onto an open waterballoon.
Julia: “Hunters cannot approach it.”
Me: “a moose?”
Julia: “It’s horns are like saws.”
Me: “it’s definitely a moose.”
Julia: “It is an antelope.”
Me: “what?”
I thought it was a moose too! It all makes sense really! The horns are vaguely saw shaped, big enough to break branches or small trees, and they leave behind there velvety felt after winter so there horns get "caught in the branches"
I thought it was a moose too. Especially how terrifying those things are.
I thought moose too until it said something about the Euphrates and I was like, "Are moose in Africa?"
same except they brought up a good point about all the monks had to go on was cravings tribes and other cultures made so they probably made the swirl in the horns look saw like. also it gets stuck in trees could have meant that predators stash them there like another comment thread pointed out.
for some reason as soon as she said horns like saws i immediately went ah antelope and i have no idea why. but also i dont live anywhere near moose and live in like. antelope central so
Jacob's classic catchphrase: "Once again I am laid low by betrayal"
Now I'm imagining him saying that on a sitcom with a laugh track.
Was it a sudden yet inevitable betrayal?
Yeah I love it whenever he says that
This is one of those wacky coincidences where the quote is said as the comment quoting was read
When Karina keeps softly saying, "Oh. Okay," while Jacob explains his owl's little bitey murder mouth, she sounds like a mother who's secretly disturbed by her son's artwork but trying to encourage his creativity and hope the upsetting part is just a phase he needs to work through.
It’s to perfect
Spoiler: That phase lasts a lot longer then you think...
19:58
"If you're celibate and evil, you're valid." We're moving forward as a society one step at a time!
Normalize celibate evil
@@stefanalexanderlungu1503 Lawful evil, neutral evil, chaotic evil, and celibate evil 🤓
@@senseisleepyhead Sexually-active evil, sex-neutral evil, and celibate evil
So Incels? Although it is involuntary
@@somedudewatchintv5297 They sure like to say it's involuntary, but I notice most of them hate women and therefore choose not to pursue contact with them.
“It’s antlers are like saws, it can cut down trees with it”
Are Pokemon descriptions inspired by Medieval animal descriptions?
Kinda. The dex entries seem to be based on a combination of simple testing, observations in the wild, and rumor, which is also what these medeival descriptions literally are, so it’s possible.
right? my brain just kept going Sawsbuck and had to shake that thought away cause it was for a real animal not a pokemon xD
to be precise about it, Pokémon are kaiju (like godzilla) but originally the term meant folklore monsters, in a category similar to or overlapping "cryptids".
there may be similarities because the kind of lore we write about bigfoot when we haven't confirmed them is strangely similar to what people made up when nobody could confirm where bees were born
In short, yes.
@@basicmountaingriff I thought the term was yokai.
I love when Karina makes a 2010s Tumblr reference that no one on the team gets
I love going to the comments to learn about them
Forgot which episode but at one point she says "how bad can it be?"
"..."
"I'm just fueling the economy"
@@TheEepyMagi exactly
Spiders Georg always seems to find a way to sneak into my life and I'm always thankful for it
@@stevenrexach9686 we're all thankful for spiders georg
Digimon telephone. Karina gives Nathan a picture of an in-training Digimon, he draws the rookie form. Jacob looks at Nathan's rookie & draws the champion. Julia looks at his champion & draws the ultimate. Karina gives names & details all the while.
While I do love the idea, some digivolution trees are so weird that you can just ignore the previous drawing and draw something random.
@@ashrog82 maybe this could be adapted for something else, like Pokémon? Those seem a bit more predictable.
i think the point is to make it unpredictable lol
Karina could choose evolution lines that follow a slightly more logical trend
@@hug_bug Trouble is besides Julia most of them have a pretty good idea of pokemon. So unless you say have like Julia go in the middle or first you're not going to see much crazy stuff from anyone but Julia.
The Trojans: Hey, uh- whatcha got there?
The Greeks, wheeling in a dead fucking bull stuffed to the brim with huge-ass chestburster corruption nightmare birds sitting 6 feet apart because celebacy: ...A horse.
Considering the kind of people the Greeks were, they might have actually tried that. Don't take my words to heat tho I could very easily be very wrong
so it's almost midnight, I read this comment and laugh so hard I'm now crying. Thank you
We make fun of calling a bee a bird but we still define "fish" as "thing that do a swim" so our search for knowledge is by no means complete
As far as I know, most people that are concerned about aquatic life do have different branches for them. Like fish is supposed to be a super vague umbrella term anyways, but it's definitely a lot better than we were 200 years ago with whales and dolphins being considered fish instead of mammals. (please don't read this as me not agreeing with you, just elaborating)
Swim and breathe water. We don't define seals, whales, penguins or crocodiles as fish for example. Most people also dont call octopus or animals with exoskeletons like prawns fish. Fish usually also have small scales and finds
At the time bird was used in a similar way and described “all things that fly”. Bug was a term for “evil” which to be fair some bugs do fit the old usage as well.
There's no such thing as a fish! th-cam.com/video/uhwcEvMJz1Y/w-d-xo.html
@@vincentboers1379 theres no such thing as posting links in random threads in the hope of getting views, even though im looking at evidence that would argue the opposite.
This was the perfect drawfee suggestion. Medieval animal descriptions are basically any episode when you guys have to describe a drawing to someone
This timeline was secured, since his Nuesday betrayal
Yes! It's such a good suggestion. I hope they do more episodes of this.
do you know what a rectangle is?
I love thinking that medieval people just lived in a fantasy world, and then everything got boring. How else would you explain some of these monstrosities?
that's what christian theories suggest. Magic, miracles, sorceries etc where all *real* and visible and very much common place, but then it stopped bc it was convenient.
Misinterpretation and superstition :p
People didn't have glasses
@@neronoid Those same theories also suggest that you do not exist, but are merely a figment of imagination of some peasant from ye olden days.
@@LordDragox412 Which is the truth. DON'T WAKE UP! HERE IS BETTER!
“A dog always returns to its vomit” is actually a line from the Old Testament, talking about how people return back to their bad habits.
Proverbs 26:11 isn’t the New Testament my man
@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks crap, no idea how that one flew by my, I even knew it isn’t New Testament before you commented. Thanks for pointing it out!
Naturalist who has only seen a pig's eyes, describing his second animal's eyes: Getting a lot of 'pig's eyes' vibes from these...
Apparently "pig eyed" just mean small eye
"He's so wild, hunters can't approach him!" sounds like a click-bait article title.
Which leads me to... Suggestion: draw scenes based on click-bait article titles.
Uh-oh. That sounds bad for baseball player.
Yeah! Satisfy the disappointed curiosity I feel when I almost want to click on a clickbait article but I don't because I am absolutely confident it won't pay off on that vague but intriguing headline and I refuse to give them the satisfaction of my click.
yessssss
Yes, we didn't have that yet i think. But even if, that's always funny.
They've definitely done headlines before. Don't remember if it was clickbait per se.
"You're approaching me?
I can't describe you without getting closer"
Was looking for this comment
Pls
You were expecting an animal, but it was me, Dio!
Jacob: "This is you giving in to their demands."
Nathan: "Yup."
Lol love ya Nathan
"and you're not standing on your own guns"
"nope"
"and you left me out in the cold wilderness"
"yep"
lol
@@easefuldeath5902 "Once again brought low by betrayal."
can’t let David get away with putting the “I am a bottom” horseshoe crab image in pretty much unnoticed
Especially since they're not actually crabs. CARCINIZATION BABY
@@iPyromantic they're the least carcinoid of the false crabs though to be fair
"I am born of corruption, and I will not have sex" The new asexual anthem thank you Jacob
Vouch
Thats what I was thinking! XD
So if we dispose of dead oxen we can finally free ourselves from the asexual menace?
@@freakymoejoe2 No. We shall forever menace you with our lack of sexual attraction.
@@evgeni1310 curses
I'm sure the whole 'antelope get stuck in trees' thing was because of the leopards that stashed them there.
I love how in response to Nathan’s comment to Jacob “I like this dead ox you drew” Karina chimes in with “Great horse!” Haha 17:34
It's the best horse Jacob's ever drawn and it's not a horse
When “Big Direction” was mentioned my brain very quickly clarified, “Yeah, One Direction’s dad.”
I laughed
“Please, Big Direction was my father… call me One”
Y’all should draw each other as animated talking objects (think beauty and the beast)!
I was confused at first, then I read your example. This is brilliant!
Sounds enchanting. Lol
This is brilliant
Jacob would be a yogurt bowl. Karina would be a knife. Nathan would be a beard brush. Annnd Julia would be a tired coffee thermos.
That's a great idea!
Nathan's Cockney peasant voice is delightful and I was low-key sad that he got asked to stop
High key in my case
I went to the comments while the video was buffering, and the first time I skimmed past your comment I read it as Cockney pheasant. Way to get my hopes (and worries) up only to let me down in the end XD
Yeaaaah, same 😢
“I have a secret love of medieval history.” Maybe one of the worst kept secrets.
*Holds pictures of both crocodile eye and pig eye*
"Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures."
Medieval monk writing about animals: "they're the same picture"
Saying it again:
Y’all should do a round robin of the Portrait of Dorian Gray; one artist does the original pretty man painting, and the others each take a turn building up the age and disfigurement.
there it is again! got my vote again!
Damn, with awesome suggestions like these, mine seem dumb by comparison.
That’s so cool!
Ending with Julia! This would be such a cool episode!
YAAS!! ⬆⬆⬆
I just read the Graphic Planet short graphic novel of "Dorian Gray" in hopes Drawfee does this suggestion! I've done my homework, I am READY! 🖼💖
The description for Jacob's animal also applies to Furbies - particularly the part about being birds born out of corruption and having no sex... a Furbee if you will.
I wanted to like this comment bc i am a Furby Mom but then i noticed it has 69 likes already so i couldn't disrupt that
@@FemmeEtherealBeing Appreciated XD
Anything can be a furby if you think enough.
@@clowneryAscended Furbies... we've all got them. (If you think hard enough.) They're just like us.
I get a good joke, but implying furbies don't have sex is misinformation :/
Stuff like that makes being a furby breeder real hard nowadays.
"No sex, just corruption"
- Asexuals, always
As an asexual this is 100% fact
I lost it when Nathan said as Winnie the Pooh-were "I ate Christopher Robin"
And when Karina actually went with it and drew concerned Piglet
"no sex, just corruption" - best description for aces and enbies
💛🤍💜🖤
Whaddup
Corrupted nonbinary aroaces rrrriiiiissse up
Hehe... *enbees*
@@silvercandra4275 *You know the rules, and so do I*
Yep
To be fair, antelopes are hella fast so no hunters would be able to be as fast and therefore couldn't approach them.
unless they're drinking or tangled up in tree branches :p
Yeah I think that's what the description meant. "Wild" meaning not tame/docile, and runs the fuck away.
I support Karina's method of "i had exactly one thought and im stickin to it."
The whole being born from the dead body of an ox actually comes from when in the renaissance they didn't necessarily know how children worked (ex, they thought at one point that women was only a vessel of sorts for a baby and that sperm was a little child that they put in there to grow, kinda like one of those grow capsules) and thought that some things could just come from nothing and that certain "recipes" of sorts could make things. So when someone saw wasps on a dead ox they assumed that the bees came from it.
They thought you could generate mice by putting out straw and dirty linen's
@@eainjones9509 time to create the mice spawner. Crafting materials: some straw and old linens
Even nowadays people say 'when you were just a sperm' which is maddening.
@@cakeyeater7392 Sounds like something to do in Minecraft
@@alvianekka80 that was my joke, lol
"So they kinda just cry everytime they eat."
They're just like us!
We all have'em!
People do that? And if so, is it from eating too spicy food? I can't even remember a time where I cried because of sadness when I was eating at the same time. If I'm really sad that actually discourages me from eating, even if I'm physically hungry (but thankfully I'm not often sad)
@@zakosist
...
_Who needs em...?_
If I'm eating, I'm too happy to cry. The tears come when I get the bill. I have expensive taste in food...
@@zakosist Crying isn't always because of sadness, plenty of people cry when overly happy or even when overly angry...most emotions when strong enough can cause your eyes to leak tears. There's also differences between each emotions tears chemically I think? I don't remember but there's distinct differences that you can actually see when studied, they may also taste different I'm unsure.
Finally, Julia the true renaissance woman, sounds as if she came from the renaissance period!
Oh you know Julias an eternal being who was conjurored during the middle ages for some purpose and nows just kinda condemned to chill here forever
@@endersquid1132 she wasn't summoned though, she exists eternally, which obviously means she knows everything about every period, but happened to take a liking to this one.
I feel like she was an omnipotent being who watched us from her own plane of existence before she was brought here, she took a liking to it because it was the first she was actually able to experience herself rather than living vicariously through others
The pillars of Renaissance education: art, poetry, rhethoric, Blender
@@Poldovico Don't forget the 5th pillar, Overly Detailed Rooms
as an avid fan of when Drawfee talks about Cats (2019), i am once again taking this opportunity to request an episode where the gang designs their own completely sincere Cats (2019-sonas, Including Jellicle Names AND Titles [in the same vein as Grizabella the Glamour Cat, Gus the Theatre Cat, Skimbleshanks the Railway Cat, etc),
karina would probably make a horse: the horse cat
Can I reccomend... speed draw?
Excuse me Jellicles have THREE names 🙄 fake cats fan /j
hell yeah hell YEAH
wELL actUallY while jellicle’s do have 3 names, we only call them by one, since the first is the name the family gives, the second is the special name that’s one of a kind, and the third is the secret name that only the cat will know and never tell, smh quit Gatekeeping Cats (/j)
Karina's concerned "Oh... okay..." when Jaccob drew the mouth under the owl's beak is hilarious!
She sounds like a mother looking at her son's concerning drawings, afraid to offend.
still would love to see a "realistic biblical angel" episode
That would be so gnarly
Eyes. A lot of them.
Also electrum.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Electrum is an Egyptian god blood thing, biblical angels is like gold and pure light.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Depends on the type of angels. Cherubs are humanoid, have four faces - one human, one of an ox, one of a lion and one of a bird - and four wings and they use the lower pair of those wings to cover their lower body. Seraphs are basically just humans with six wings and they use two pairs to cover their face and two pairs to cover their lower body. The very strange one witht the shape of strange wheels and a lot of eyes are Ophanim or "Thrones", I think.
Wendingon
nathans render is so beautiful but also so unsettling and I'm not sure how to feel
Why do I feel like it would be something in an old Disney/Don Bluth movie that would be… a furry awakening
@@lillithefangirl2422 I was going to say op should feel threatened AND turned on but you really beat me to it, huh?
So there was a real-life precedent for pokedex writers. Who knew? 😂
My god. That’s so true
I love the idea that hundreds of years after the Pokémon games people are just like “does that say that drifloons kidnap kids? Lol that’s wild”
(Guy who's never seen a book about animals before): getting major Pokedex vibes from this
@@stefanalexanderlungu1503 They’re just talking about how there are just wild statements in the book that aren’t actually observed, like how the Pokédex will say that they’re impossible temperatures or have IQs so high it doesn’t mean anything. It’s not just because it’s a book about animals.
I just realised that Drawfee's "Sorry!" has the same vibe as Puck's speech at the end of A Midsummer Night's Dream. "If we shadows have offended..."
It does. And this comment was specifically for me, thank you.
Is it weird I keep thinking of the Gargoyles' version of Puck more than the Shakespeare's version
I have that memorized
Obsessed with this comment, it really does sound like that
thank you for putting this into words!
Nathan's drawing starts with "Oh, you're approaching me" and immediately gets full on Dio face and I have to love that
Yes, Crocodiles cry for real.
Their jaws push into their tear ducts, forcing them to cry whenever they eat.
I died at how enthusiastically Julia goes "vague as hell!"
Antelopes, like Deer and Elk, shed their horns yearly. So the person writing the description probably saw a big ass antelope rubbing it's horns against a tree in a bloody mess.
Antelope do not shed their horns maybe do some research before commenting that lol
@@SuperBerry29 but deer and elk do that. I think the misunderstanding is about whether deer and elk are antelopes (to be fair i don't know either)
The American pronghorn does and it's commonly called an antelope but it's not related to actual antelope
@@SuperBerry29 Antelopes are horned mammals that dont fall under the category of goat, sheep, or cattle, i.e. Deer, Elk, Pronghorns, Giraffes, etc. All of which shed their horns yearly. Maybe do some research before replying.
@@ZhutyArt one quick Google search tells me that antelopes have continously growing horns and do not shed them like deer.
Well north being "up" and south being "down" are arbitrary. That's why in ancient Egypt the Lower Nile/Kingdom was in the north - their map was what we would see as upside down, because the river was the focal point, and water flows down so it was the most logical way to see it for them.
Its lower because its at a lower elevation you lunatic. Are the low counties in Europe called low countries because they hold maps upside down too? No, it's elevation.
Eat any good books lately?
@@hippyjoe well then it's arbitrary to the compass. I have the Egypt problem while reading local maps.
@@hippyjoe but thats how they navigated though is there point?
Who hurt you
Nobody tell @@hippyjoe that river flow is dictated by elevation differences. Or that you're supposed to read the books and that he'd know that if he'd just stop having them for lunch. Oh and here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_and_Lower_Egypt#Structure
Describing something as "pig-eyed" traditionally means it has small eyes, it's most commonly used in reference to horses.
Really? Why don't just say "small eyed" why were these guys so poetic all the time?
Why not?
i feel like horses do not have small eyes tho, like they're pretty big as far as i remember
@@Re-iv5pv well, compared to the rest of the animal, not that big
@@italucenaz English didn't develop the way you think it did, many words didn't exist in writing even if they were spoken commonly
Nathan’s character is pulling a “you expected a animal, but it was I! Dio Brando!”
Especially the whole thing about being approached.
Thank you, I really had to dig in the comments for this one, weird.
"Answer my riddles three, or else I'll cut your arm off."
'Tis but a scratch. It's just a flesh wound.
This explains why so many medieval animal illustrations look nothing like real actual animals.
Well yeah they were drawing based on description and they hadn’t invented perspective yet lol
Nathan's creature looks like it would sing the Doctor Facilier's song. "Shake my hand. C'mon boys! Won't shake a poor sinner's hand?"
Rawr XD
the "stop playing on the dead ox" made me think "mom said it's my turn to play on the oxen carcass"
I think the medieval people mistake the crocodile growls for “woeful moans” (plus the eyes shedding tears while they eat)
"Oh, you're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming closer?"
"I can't describe you without getting closer."
Jacob: "Jazza is a safe haven from Cats"
Me: *flashbacks to his AI art and animation video*
Oh, God... I tried to purge that from memory, thanks😅
"A beast that weeps after eating a man."
Is that... is that Edward Cullen?
i love that we thought of vampires.. i thought of stefan salvatore..
@@sashimmiiiiii It's so funny how both: are "17" but not really, had green eyes at some point of their lifes, and are waaay to dramatic for someone who lived over a century lol... I'm seeing a pattern here
@@marinack3817 oh my god yess
The story about bees originating out of oxen bodies goes back to ancient Greece, I believe. In Roman times, Virgil writes about it in the Georgics. Probably medieval monks copied this text and thus this description of bees circulated.
"no hunters will approach it"
meanwhile antelopes: literally hunted by almost every carnivore in Africa
I think they meant “it gets spooked easy and runs so no Hunter can even get close enough.”
I was literally so sure that it was a boar lol
Human hunters babe lol
I’m the middle of some horrible anxiety. Your banter and silly drawings help
Hang in there
Anxiety sucks. What I usually do is just think or watch something funny and/or relaxing
The Drawfee community is here for you:)
Hope you're doing better now dude !
I hope you feel better soon! You're doing great!
Hey I hope you feel better man! I understand the anxiety but you can get through it!
Suggestion: Draw a Manga Cover based on a piece of media you enjoy. Chapter/Arc of a Book Series, TV show, movie, etc.
This is a great idea
yesss
@@RiptidePen Agreed, I just love fan covers. ☺️
When I was very little, my grandmother told me that if my tears were salty that meant they were crocodile tears, and not real. I believed that my tears were never legitimate real tears (because obviously human tears taste salty) until at least middle school, when my mom was like “no, you doofus your grandma was just trying to shame you into not crying she lied”
Anyway, I think about that whenever I hear the phrase crocodile tears.
It’s interesting how some medieval descriptions of animals are completely accurate, some are obvious misinterpretations, and some are just utterly made up. It really puts into perspective how dependent one was on traveling to gather knowledge. Like how some carolingian monks drew 100% accurate elephants because they had seen Abul Abbas, Charlemagne‘s pet elephant that was gifted to him by the caliph. And then other monks drew elephants who just looked like grey horses with hosepipes as noses.
Episode spoilers ahead:
The "Being born from oxen" thing might apply to yellow-jackets, wasps, or deer-flies. If you've ever hunted in an area with them, you have to process the meat pretty quick or they will go absolutely apeshit over it. And they all look a bit like bees.
It’s about the fact that maggots grow on meat which they thought was a spontaneous appearance but of course we know that flies and wasps just laid eggs on the meat
Funfact: jacob horses are the modern equivalent of Medieval cat drawings.
100% confirmed actual fact.
+
Gotta love that Julia just chose animals that begin A B and C.
Maybe she has an alphabetical list?
I'm sharing this in hopes that someone reads it and finds solidarity in it,
But this episode lowkey gave me anxiety on behalf of all the Medieval people who had to put up with self-declared biologists confidently making up the wildest shit about completely normal animals.
Look up cenocephali(might be spelt slight bit wrong)
They genuinely believed in dog head people
Or the catoblepas. They have death-ray eyes, but necks too skinny to hold their heads up.
you go up to the biologist and cry "Pray tell, brave sir. What kind of beasts have thy seen during thou adventures?" And he says "bees are born from dead bodies" and runs away
The normal people didn’t know shit either, it’s not like they knew better 😂
I’m pretty sure the wildness of the first animal is more saying that they are attentive and prone to fleeing from hunters rather than being scary and avoided by hunters
It's wild to realize that Julia has given specifically Jacob bee as a prompt more than once (see also: the 'animals based on their scientific names' episode)
If I had a nickel...
@@kjj26k I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
The soundbite of Julia saying "BOMbus" lives rent free in my brain
On a side note, your Snoozer icon is very nostalgic for me, and I thank thee for that.
When I was taking classes in preparation for my beekeeper certification, one of the keepers leading a class mentioned how sexism influenced historical beekeeping. Even though they *saw* eggs in the comb and *saw* brood, it was so ingrained in society that a female couldn't hold a position of power. So rather than call the queen bee a queen, they referred to it as a king and either couldn't believe a female insect could hold such an important role or just pretended one couldn't lest people start getting ideas.
It wasn't until Queen Elizabeth that a woman monarch was seen as a thing that could happen, and the rest on that is history.
Needless to say, the medieval description of bees were definitely thrown around in the beekeeping class that day, some of which were more comical than others given the context of actual beekeeping.
Wow, that's crazy, yet also sadly makes sense.
The idea of dogs being pure and holy makes me laugh, because Reverend John Hartwick (founder of Hartwick NY and all-around nutjob) said that “women and dogs keep men from getting into heaven.”
Obviously the medieval scribes had this one right.
Oh no I went to Hartwick College LMAO
Finally, I have an adequate episode suggestion! InspiroBot is an internet AI that generates random "inspirational" quotes and messages. I would LOVE to see the Drawfee crew tackle some of the chaotic nonsense it comes up with. Some gems I've seen include:
"We have the power to make our colleagues wish they were somebody else."
"In the future, everything will be horrible. So it's okay to believe."
"Long shall he live, the student who owns his dinner, but the student who owns his wine must perish."
"Behind every farmer stands a burglar."
"You can take the word out of the ray of sunshine, but you can't take the ray of sunshine out of the word."
"As soon as you forget how to wear him, you forget how to terrify him."
"Paying a guy to live like a robot is the definition of traumatizing."
They range from being plain absurd, to incredibly ominous to just straight up legit sometimes, but all of them give off such Drawfee energy that I NEED to see you guys interpret them.
Gonna keep suggesting this from here on out btw...
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That sounds amazing, that one of the student had me rolling in tears XD
Some of these are really cool tho
I would very much appreciate them drawing the student one
Nathan just draws himself as a saw-horned luck dragon, and I love it.
As soon as they said a creature that cries after eating a men I knew it was crocodile tears ;)
They do cry but not like human, it's not because emotions or anyting xD It's salt gland discharge. This secretion helps to get rid of excess salt from their body. It is removed by kanakas located near the eye, often after a meal.
Its most common during a meal
Oh, that explain the tears part!
Nathan’s drawing is a straight up Neopet. I love it.
Suggestion: draw Egyptian gods based only on names and description!
This, but Babylonian ones. I feel the Babylonian ones are a tad more obscure and could be just as fun.
how about draw egyptian gods based only on names and description, but also as cats?
@@mirjamk2882 a man with a dog head cat?
@@mirjamk2882 how would…?
@@mirjamk2882 the edit does not change my question
Jazza has, in fact, talked about Cats (2019)! He did so in his video entitled “Art and Animations with Artificial Intelligence”.
In the immortal words of Thomas "tomska" Ridgewell:
"That's a small bird!"
I understood that reference
Jacob describing the horrible details of his corruption bird is made so much funnier by Karina's soft "oh, ok"
In honor of the 20th anniversary of the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, I'd love to see a speed draw of some FMA characters in other styles!
I fuckin hope they get a Dolphin, my gf is a art history major and you gotta check out renaissance dolphin statues. shits wild.
Shit, you weren't kidding. They look like Gyarados's ugly little brother who's just fallen head first out of a tree
I looked it up and it's... a koi fish. Why'd they give the dolphin such large scales??
It's very pretty, but not a dolphin.
Those are. Fish? I’m amazed
@@theomegajuice8660 I did not realize how completely accurate this description was until I saw the images, and yup. That’s 100% accurate
“So wild, no hunter can approach it”
“The horns are like saws”
My Alaskan self: it’s a moose, isn’t it?
Draw characters showing a mix of two random unmatching emotions, such as "happy-disgusted" or "excited-bored"
Bird classified any flying creature.
Insects counted as birds the way most Avians are today.
Sort of like how "tomatoes are actually fruit" is based on a botanical taxonomy that was far predated by the culinary meanings of the terms "fruit" and "vegetable," and while totally valid for use in a botanical context is an overcorrection in a culinary one...
I've also heard that ducks and otters were considered fish for a similar reason... Also so they could eat duck for Lent.
That is very interesting, but then shouldn't the smallest "bird" in medieval terms be fruit flies or something? I don't know what the exact smallest insect is and I wouldn't expect them to either, but bees aren't even close.
@@HeavyMetalMal42 Most insects would be classified as 'worms' (the old meaning of the term, which eventually became the word 'vermin'). Bees normally would too, but I guess this bestiary writer felt they were too noble to classify with other bugs.
It's possible there was a Latin pun there too, with avis (bird) and apis (bee) sounding so similar.
@@AdenSerenity Huh. Well all right then, thanks for the info. Medieval taxonomy is weird.
“I thought that was the beak up there-“
“That is the beak. This is the mouth.”
“Oh… okay…”
The captions on this one went wild.
"You can let us know in the drafty discord which you can access by signing up for the the dropy patreon."
The bees coming from a dead ox or bull is actually something very old, and was used in ancient Greek times for beekeepers to get new bees. It's described in Ovid's Metamorphoses, and the process is called 'bugonia' or 'bougonia'.
Suggestion: Draw your own designs on top of real constellations (any culture any time).
Come up with your own mythology for extra fun!
For a challenge they should draw drawing challenges as human artist:
Mermay, Huevember, Sketchember, Drawlloween, etc.
Ink-tober too maybe?
@@demolisherinfinite8606 I would have suggested that but there’s a bit of a controversy about the whole challenge; currently right now a lot of artist are boycotting it due to allegations that Jake Parker the creator of Inktober had stolen reference work by another artist for a drawing technique book. There was also precious issues where he tried to trademark Inktober which was an issues since artist from previous years had listed their pieces done at the time under Inktober in the title. You can find more information but I thought it was best to just list Drawlloween since it’s still a challenge done in October just doesn’t cause backlash for any artist
@@PrincessAnime172 Oh okay I had no idea! Thanks for the info, I’ll look into it a bit more now.
@@demolisherinfinite8606 no problem. Not many know about it unless they were really active with the challenge or kept up to date with Jake Parker.
@@PrincessAnime172 I’d never heard of it either.
"Are you approaching me? Instead of fleeing in terror?" "I can't catch your horns in my branches without getting closer!"
I like that apparently, they thought bees were sentient, with a society and laws. ...Did. Did they think all animals were sentient? Like, including the ones they ate?
Technically, yes and no on the bees. Not as sentient as we think before, but they do have a sort of society, and Nature's Laws of survival still count as laws, right?"
As I recall, Medieval academia had a whole thing about the parts of a person's sentience. Basically they believed that the mind was comprised of the five "inner wits". Common Sense gathers inputs from the senses, imagination stores them, memory archives experiences and thoughts, cognition uses those to to make decisions, and finally estimation deals with instinctual responses to outside stimuli.
They believed that all beings with senses possessed these wits, not just humans, but that animals have very reduced cognition but heightened estimation. In other words that humans were more capable of actually making decisions, while animals were far better at reacting to situations.
However the principle difference was that animals were not thought to possess souls like humans did, and the soul provided mental characteristics that the wits did not. Souls had reason and intellect. Reason being the ability to use input from the wits to come to decisions where the truth is not self-evident. In other words, on a cold day, cognition might tell you that it's a bad idea to be outside once you're already out there, whereas reason could tell you that it will be a cold day even before you go outside because you remember that it's winter and that it was a cold day yesterday and you saw it snowing before you went to bed. Finally intellect is the power of understanding that which is outside of our senses, things like Morality and God, it's effectively the conscious, which medieval people thought could tell us what was good or bad without the need for logic.
So yeah, the medieval people would probably say that while bees have laws, these are essentially a form of heightened estimation. The bee is able to react to the stimulus of breaking its law, and reacts by stinging itself to death. It is incapable of reasoning why it broke the law, which was most likely done entirely by accident on their part, due to their limited cognition, and it certainly doesn't have the intellect to grasp why it has laws in the first place, which were most likely established by God when he first made the bees, it just instinctively knows that it has broken one and thus must kill itself, like a little bee robot.
@@evansageser6943 Oh, interesting. Thanks!
Well, Saint Francis of Assisi preached the gospel to birds, Saint Martha apparently converted the Terrasque (Though maybe that wasn't meant to be a natural creature), and Saint Guinefort WAS A DOG, so clearly SOME animals were thought of as being intelligent enough to be Christian, which implies a pretty hazy distinction between man and beast.
Also, if Francis was preaching to the birds, what religion did they practice before then? Were they Pagan? I assume they weren't Muslim or Jewish on account of being willing to eat pork.
The big questions.
Suggestion: listen to the theme songs of old, obscure, animated TV shows. Based on absolutely nothing but the music, draw a scene from the show.
That sounds like absolute chaos
Oh, I love this!
Love this suggestion!
Well I want to know what they’d draw for Run with Us. The intro to The Raccoons.
You should design characters based on desserts with weird names, like pandowdies, tiny raspberry fools, grunts, and eton messes!
Oh Jacob would have a field day with tiny raspberry fools.
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tiny raspberry fools drawn by Nathan or Karina would be absolutely delightful I think
My first impressions of the animals:
Nathan's animal: probably a large deer. Moose and Elk have scary looking antlers that get stuck in branches, and moose are terrifying as hell.
Jacob: probably some large fly
Carina: hippo?
I think you're just Jacob.
I think my favorite part of this video is reading the comments and seeing people bust out their obscure facts about words and animals.