If anyone has any issues with some of the points made here, I have a Part 2 that goes more into detail. th-cam.com/video/j0_p1XZbtWc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NAcUutmGV1WHQa6D
The guy who actually made these sounds actually did mention that these are just the closest depictions of what he thought they might sound like and he does confirm that we really don't know what they sound like, along with new information of a certain ankylosaur's throat that might have proof of dinosaurs having sounds closer to animals that we have today. Again, this is just the information I'm going on.
@@treek10k i believe too but there's a place and a time, man. Randomly plastering this everywhere isn't going to convert anyone, it just destroys our rep. You're making it worse by being like this. I'm genuinely frustrated by the amount of people that go out and doompreach in every unrelated comment section, because that's just not useful. You'd be more useful to the Lord if you went to preach in a Church for people who were spiritually interested, because that's a place it was intended for, as opposed to here. I mean, do muslims and atheists do this to the same extent? No? Evangelizing shouldn't be rabid interjections, think about your timeliness before you comment (unless you're a bot, in which case it would be even worse)
@@treek10k This is neither the time nor the place for religious interjections. Preach in a church to those willing to listen as intended, not here online where it may be unwelcome. I respect other people's religions, but not when they feel the need to insert this kind of fanaticism into conversations of a completely different subject.
There's also corythosaurus in another study as well as pinacosaurus supposedly but that last one is still a bit iffy although definitely still in a better spot than other animals
@@gabrieltheachillobatorwe do have larynx from pinacosaurus but all we can tell from it is dinosaurs could have more complex sounds than we thought, that's it, it can't even tell us what type of sounds it could produce like in parasaurolophus and corythosaurus
He wasn't ever claiming they were real. They are just speculative projects based on ideas their bodies, but again, they're all just ideas, thoughts. I sure don't think a lot of the sounds are accurate but it's not supposed to be. It's all hypothetical
I may have not made this clear in the video, but I was more talking about how a lot of people interpret these sounds as being real and think they were recreated in a legitimate scientific study. I think the videos are actually cool and interesting, but the way it has circulated on social media is more what I have an issue with. I see StudioMod's work as paleoart, but the popular opinion is that it is real science.
Wrong while yes the original creator did say this isn’t actually what they sounded like but many people are actually using these sound claiming this is actually what they sounded like spreading false information even some trusted people are spreading this lie
There's also corythosaurus in another study as well as pinacosaurus supposedly but that last one is still a bit iffy although definitely still in a better spot than other animals The corythosaur sounds are available on here (video has a skull from a museum in the thumbnail)
On the no vocal chords i need to point out we do have larynx from a pinacosaurus that was described last year...but still this cant help on telling how it sounds, it can only tell us that they definitely could make more complex sounds than just hissing (after all even the birds that were used as reference like ratites, they too can make loud sounds but for some reason only territorial rumbling of cassowary got famous instead of their louder calls)
Parasaurolophus is the *only* exception because we actually have a fossilized sound-producing body part, its crest. Even then, there's no way of knowing exactly what it sounded like.
Prehistory in the Dark also says that the sounds used for the dinosaurs in the video you're talking about are not real dinosaur sounds. He said, and I quote "None of that is based in Science. These sounds are purely theoretical, and based on literally nothing when it comes to proper science" (Prehistory in the Dark).
Not even theoretical, hypothetical. The EPB is extremely flawed, so using it to supplement knowledge about something as variable as vocalisation is ridiculous
Finally thank you for bringing up this video cause it's so annoying and a bit sad to see how many people think this video is pure fact and not just well some guy that pitched down a couple of modren day animal calls to gets there "dinosaurian" nosies, although I will say some are cool and def unique, others are either out of place or just crocodile hisses liek the tirceratops
Weird people think they were actually real. I always thought they were just speculative, though not based on specific evidence (because birds have evolved more advanced vocal capabilities than dinosaurs.) It shouldn't be taken as real, but I guess only helped get people away from the mammalian, monster or Jurassic park roars as defacto dinosaur calls, though still not actually backed in science specific to those dinosaurs anatomically.
People take the Mark Witton quote - “In absence of proper evidence, speculate wildly.” - and run with it. It’s a bad quote and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how scientists conduct speculation
I need this video for very long time. For t rex, most of videos for real t rex sounds are similar to hippos, they made the impression that this is what real t rex sounds. Thank God, there is one proof, now I can definitely say this is not a real t rex sound.
@@treek10ki have a better idea maybe look up a video about beliefs and then comment under that video this has nothing to do with beliefs this is a dinosaur video but yeah have a good friend
The guy who make this is also talking absolutly dumbshit not Gonna lie. Reasons because of this, He clearly says ... All of them have no Syrinxes or Larynxes. So this is not a Solution to make thse sounds like birds. the most real Sounds at the Moment are Parasaurolophus with his Tube, and T-rex with the Closed mouth Vocalisation also known from Crocodiles. and Ratites like Emus and Ostriches and Eurasian Bitterns who all used for the real study! Spread this words so everybody stops believe this nonsense .
A light fact check: you claimed they have no larynxes, but the examples of crocodiles and ratites are bad examples because they DO have larynxes (though not as complicated as most birds). Source names: Functional morphology of the Alligator mississippiensis larynx with implications for vocal production Gross Morphological Studies on the Trachea of Adult Emu (⚠️Warning for medical “gore” of real emus in the article⚠️) Ostrich (Struthio camelus) syrinx morphology and vocal repertoire across postnatal ontogeny and sex: Implications for understanding vocal evolution in birds *So dinosaurs likely* did *have larynxes, just not as complicated.*
If anyone has any issues with some of the points made here, I have a Part 2 that goes more into detail. th-cam.com/video/j0_p1XZbtWc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NAcUutmGV1WHQa6D
The guy who actually made these sounds actually did mention that these are just the closest depictions of what he thought they might sound like and he does confirm that we really don't know what they sound like, along with new information of a certain ankylosaur's throat that might have proof of dinosaurs having sounds closer to animals that we have today. Again, this is just the information I'm going on.
@@treek10k i believe too but there's a place and a time, man. Randomly plastering this everywhere isn't going to convert anyone, it just destroys our rep. You're making it worse by being like this. I'm genuinely frustrated by the amount of people that go out and doompreach in every unrelated comment section, because that's just not useful. You'd be more useful to the Lord if you went to preach in a Church for people who were spiritually interested, because that's a place it was intended for, as opposed to here.
I mean, do muslims and atheists do this to the same extent? No? Evangelizing shouldn't be rabid interjections, think about your timeliness before you comment (unless you're a bot, in which case it would be even worse)
@@treek10k I Don’t Get How That’s Related To Any Of What He Said.
@@treek10k This is neither the time nor the place for religious interjections. Preach in a church to those willing to listen as intended, not here online where it may be unwelcome. I respect other people's religions, but not when they feel the need to insert this kind of fanaticism into conversations of a completely different subject.
@@Saberrex1 exactly
we dont know the sounds of dinosaurs except for one. Parasaurolophos the only one dinosaur the sound we kow of
There's also corythosaurus in another study as well as pinacosaurus supposedly but that last one is still a bit iffy although definitely still in a better spot than other animals
@@gabrieltheachillobatorwe do have larynx from pinacosaurus but all we can tell from it is dinosaurs could have more complex sounds than we thought, that's it, it can't even tell us what type of sounds it could produce like in parasaurolophus and corythosaurus
He wasn't ever claiming they were real. They are just speculative projects based on ideas their bodies, but again, they're all just ideas, thoughts. I sure don't think a lot of the sounds are accurate but it's not supposed to be. It's all hypothetical
I may have not made this clear in the video, but I was more talking about how a lot of people interpret these sounds as being real and think they were recreated in a legitimate scientific study. I think the videos are actually cool and interesting, but the way it has circulated on social media is more what I have an issue with. I see StudioMod's work as paleoart, but the popular opinion is that it is real science.
What does this have to do with dinosaurs... @@treek10k
Wrong while yes the original creator did say this isn’t actually what they sounded like but many people are actually using these sound claiming this is actually what they sounded like spreading false information even some trusted people are spreading this lie
It's probably better to say that these sounds are (most likely) more accurate than those heard in movies
The closest we got to an actual dino sound is from Paralophosaurus, but it could also not be it.
There's also corythosaurus in another study as well as pinacosaurus supposedly but that last one is still a bit iffy although definitely still in a better spot than other animals
The corythosaur sounds are available on here (video has a skull from a museum in the thumbnail)
On the no vocal chords i need to point out we do have larynx from a pinacosaurus that was described last year...but still this cant help on telling how it sounds, it can only tell us that they definitely could make more complex sounds than just hissing (after all even the birds that were used as reference like ratites, they too can make loud sounds but for some reason only territorial rumbling of cassowary got famous instead of their louder calls)
So that means the parasaurolophus sound the only dinosaur vocalization that has been studied and reconsructed?
Parasaurolophus is the *only* exception because we actually have a fossilized sound-producing body part, its crest. Even then, there's no way of knowing exactly what it sounded like.
Birds crying in the corner
Prehistory in the Dark also says that the sounds used for the dinosaurs in the video you're talking about are not real dinosaur sounds. He said, and I quote "None of that is based in Science. These sounds are purely theoretical, and based on literally nothing when it comes to proper science" (Prehistory in the Dark).
Not even theoretical, hypothetical. The EPB is extremely flawed, so using it to supplement knowledge about something as variable as vocalisation is ridiculous
It’s pretty obvious the T-Rex or any large Dino would be a very very low pitch.
It is believed that the guy time traveled to get the sample of the beasts in case they did roar like in Jurassic Park
wha
Finally somebody mentioned this
Finally thank you for bringing up this video cause it's so annoying and a bit sad to see how many people think this video is pure fact and not just well some guy that pitched down a couple of modren day animal calls to gets there "dinosaurian" nosies, although I will say some are cool and def unique, others are either out of place or just crocodile hisses liek the tirceratops
I don't really believe it because they weren't there to even hear a dinosaur....some people believe anything.
Do you never heard of speculation?
Weird people think they were actually real. I always thought they were just speculative, though not based on specific evidence (because birds have evolved more advanced vocal capabilities than dinosaurs.) It shouldn't be taken as real, but I guess only helped get people away from the mammalian, monster or Jurassic park roars as defacto dinosaur calls, though still not actually backed in science specific to those dinosaurs anatomically.
There is a study of a T Rex btw it was on TV and had Chris Packham
Although some of the dinosaur noises they've produced are epic, many of them are reverberating headaches.
@@treek10k?
@@treek10k hail satan, he has free pet raptors
A very very thankful for this video.
what's wrong with speculative
People take the Mark Witton quote - “In absence of proper evidence, speculate wildly.” - and run with it. It’s a bad quote and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how scientists conduct speculation
I believe t rex have wings
Why you hating on studio's dinosaur vocalization?
he wasn't hating on them, He was just explaining how Studio made the sounds.
I need this video for very long time. For t rex, most of videos for real t rex sounds are similar to hippos, they made the impression that this is what real t rex sounds. Thank God, there is one proof, now I can definitely say this is not a real t rex sound.
@@treek10k"Shadow what the fuck are you talking about?"
@@treek10k Not the time nor the place for preaching gospel. It's irrelevant in conversations about dinosaurs.
@@treek10ki have a better idea maybe look up a video about beliefs and then comment under that video this has nothing to do with beliefs this is a dinosaur video but yeah have a good friend
thank you, THANK YOU. finnaly someone telling the truth
Look they're good as we're going to get let me have this
The guy who make this is also talking absolutly dumbshit not Gonna lie. Reasons because of this, He clearly says ... All of them have no Syrinxes or Larynxes. So this is not a Solution to make thse sounds like birds. the most real Sounds at the Moment are Parasaurolophus with his Tube, and T-rex with the Closed mouth Vocalisation also known from Crocodiles. and Ratites like Emus and Ostriches and Eurasian Bitterns who all used for the real study! Spread this words so everybody stops believe this nonsense .
A light fact check: you claimed they have no larynxes, but the examples of crocodiles and ratites are bad examples because they DO have larynxes (though not as complicated as most birds).
Source names:
Functional morphology of the Alligator mississippiensis larynx with implications for vocal production
Gross Morphological Studies on the Trachea of Adult Emu
(⚠️Warning for medical “gore” of real emus in the article⚠️)
Ostrich (Struthio camelus) syrinx morphology and vocal repertoire across postnatal ontogeny and sex: Implications for understanding vocal evolution in birds
*So dinosaurs likely* did *have larynxes, just not as complicated.*
I was able to hear a Loon sound the first time I watched the video, that and a moose used later in that vid.