I have lived on the road for a number of years now. I can't recall having seen once a motorhome leave trash behind. It's the small cars that do. That I have seen a lot of times! Then they leave and the motorhomes that are left on the parking lot get the blame. The people living in vans and motorhomes are usually very bound to nature, and, even responsible. Mature. In fact, we - myself included - have a tendency to pick up trash in the area where we live!
I see much more trash thrown outside by locals than campers leave behind but ofcourse it's easier to blame others. I tend to clean areas i camp at, leave them cleaner than i found them. The vast majority of travelers know they are visiting so they tend to respect the surroundings. Ofcourse there are dimwitted campers too, but this is a very small minority.
So, towns have bylaws to prevent overcrowding and people camping everywhere, they provide parking for campers, making it very clear it is for parking, not for camping... and omg the shock and the horror? I have "motorhomed" around Spain too (well, only in Spain) and yes, I have used similar parking areas. You leave your camping area, park there, see the town and then go back to your camping area outside the city. Those rules have their reasons, if they didn't have those, some areas of cities would become... this: th-cam.com/video/v940Bq2R9gI/w-d-xo.html
Following up on the video you posted... are you saying it is a bad thing that [free] people can stay long-term on public land without being forced to pay someone for the air they breathe? Maybe you want society to enshrine into law that everyone must pay someone else either rent or interest on a mortgage? Maybe you want a discriminating class system, where only an elite group of people (or cars) are welcome in a designated area? Not only would I like to challenge this kind of ideas based on fundamental human rights, but I also think that such argumentation, however popular, contradicts the equally popular narrative of society at large. See, one can not on the one hand complain about a housing crisis and affordability, feel compassion for homeless people, for students not being able to move to wherever they were lucky to find a college, for hard working people wasting a majority of their paycheck on rent every month, et cetera, but on the other hand advocate for a ban on people sleeping in their cars. Just a FYI, please don't believe that people living in their vehicles actually want to stay near static house and apartment dwellers. Y`all are free to live in gated communities 😉
My cousin lives in Spain. I didn't know their laws were so silly. This video is great, but maybe replace the vegan chemical shit with real meat 🍖🥓🍖🥓 😂🤣😂
hahahahaha yeah maybe =) About your cousin, I think that any western country today is mostly good for most people. It's when you decide to "step aside" from society and live a truly free life when quote unquote "oddities" all of a sudden creep up and they can be quite a shock like when armed police shows up in an otherwise dead dead-end street and ask me to remove a damn leveling block hahahahahaha
Yeah one would think!! And this makes one question the morals of the the whole chain behind the event of them showing up. So many people involved that ought to have had half a brain to think with. This time it was only a leveling block (and wasted tax money), but are they also sending out the police to campers to ask them to close the doors? Because if I have understood the law correctly this is equally unlawful, keep a door or window open! And we have 1 300 people dying in Spain every year from the heat. Do we really want a police force to go around and contribute to that number? If you ask me the only thing that should be criminalized is the stupidity behind this law and whoever politician that came up with it should go straight to jail.
You get to stay for FREE in a camping area where you can get free water and free dumping of grey and black water... If you want to take your chair etc out, just go to a PAID camping area...? I´ve wild camped in Spain for 6 months and have never been bothered by the police, they just smile and drive by. It´s not the police that make the rules, but they are the ones that have to make sure they are followed. Be angry at the people that called the police, not the police, they didnt do anything wrong. The rules in Portugal are much stricter, good luck ;-)
Thank you for your feedback. If I want to take my chair out, just go to a paid area? Would you also tell the jew during world war 2 "if you don't want to get killed just don't go out"? I think your observation that the chair in itself very few people have a problem with is actually emphasizing just how corrupt one of Europe's most depopulated countries is. I am angry with the ones calling the police. Just as I am angry with the police for wasting tax money to cause a problem. Are you happy with that? "A good person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty." - Mahatma Gandhi. The freedoms we do have today, do you know who we have to thank for that? All the people who despite suffering, oppression and prosecution, stood up and shout. They were always a discomfort for many people floating with the current. Do you know who we have to thank for all the evil that happened in this world? Not just one person Adolf Hitler or two. But all the people who was compliant. If you know better, do better. This should especially include the police. Shame on them for going out there into a dead alley and tell me to remove the leveling block. Please don't be an extension of this injustice. Rise up instead. Portugal, as I said in the video, rolled back their idiot laws. Didn't even last one year. Your statement about Portugal is incorrect. Hey, I would love to hear your oppinion after a couple of angry unpolite police officers paid you a visit and told you to remove a leveling block or stop sitting on the chair hahahaha, deal? Will you come back then? 🤗
This is not Espania's fault, it's all the other campers that throw trash around. We will see more of this in rest of Europa soon I'm a fraid.
I have lived on the road for a number of years now. I can't recall having seen once a motorhome leave trash behind. It's the small cars that do. That I have seen a lot of times! Then they leave and the motorhomes that are left on the parking lot get the blame.
The people living in vans and motorhomes are usually very bound to nature, and, even responsible. Mature. In fact, we - myself included - have a tendency to pick up trash in the area where we live!
I agree Italjohn
I see much more trash thrown outside by locals than campers leave behind but ofcourse it's easier to blame others. I tend to clean areas i camp at, leave them cleaner than i found them. The vast majority of travelers know they are visiting so they tend to respect the surroundings. Ofcourse there are dimwitted campers too, but this is a very small minority.
I agree. I have the same experience the times Ives visited Spain.
So, towns have bylaws to prevent overcrowding and people camping everywhere, they provide parking for campers, making it very clear it is for parking, not for camping... and omg the shock and the horror? I have "motorhomed" around Spain too (well, only in Spain) and yes, I have used similar parking areas. You leave your camping area, park there, see the town and then go back to your camping area outside the city. Those rules have their reasons, if they didn't have those, some areas of cities would become... this: th-cam.com/video/v940Bq2R9gI/w-d-xo.html
Following up on the video you posted... are you saying it is a bad thing that [free] people can stay long-term on public land without being forced to pay someone for the air they breathe?
Maybe you want society to enshrine into law that everyone must pay someone else either rent or interest on a mortgage?
Maybe you want a discriminating class system, where only an elite group of people (or cars) are welcome in a designated area?
Not only would I like to challenge this kind of ideas based on fundamental human rights, but I also think that such argumentation, however popular, contradicts the equally popular narrative of society at large.
See, one can not on the one hand complain about a housing crisis and affordability, feel compassion for homeless people, for students not being able to move to wherever they were lucky to find a college, for hard working people wasting a majority of their paycheck on rent every month, et cetera, but on the other hand advocate for a ban on people sleeping in their cars.
Just a FYI, please don't believe that people living in their vehicles actually want to stay near static house and apartment dwellers. Y`all are free to live in gated communities 😉
My cousin lives in Spain. I didn't know their laws were so silly. This video is great, but maybe replace the vegan chemical shit with real meat 🍖🥓🍖🥓 😂🤣😂
hahahahaha yeah maybe =)
About your cousin, I think that any western country today is mostly good for most people. It's when you decide to "step aside" from society and live a truly free life when quote unquote "oddities" all of a sudden creep up and they can be quite a shock like when armed police shows up in an otherwise dead dead-end street and ask me to remove a damn leveling block hahahahahaha
@@themartinandersson it's ridiculous, can't they go find some actual real crimes to solve?
Yeah one would think!! And this makes one question the morals of the the whole chain behind the event of them showing up. So many people involved that ought to have had half a brain to think with.
This time it was only a leveling block (and wasted tax money), but are they also sending out the police to campers to ask them to close the doors? Because if I have understood the law correctly this is equally unlawful, keep a door or window open! And we have 1 300 people dying in Spain every year from the heat. Do we really want a police force to go around and contribute to that number? If you ask me the only thing that should be criminalized is the stupidity behind this law and whoever politician that came up with it should go straight to jail.
@@themartinandersson agree, so many stupid laws in many countries, even in the USA.
You get to stay for FREE in a camping area where you can get free water and free dumping of grey and black water... If you want to take your chair etc out, just go to a PAID camping area...? I´ve wild camped in Spain for 6 months and have never been bothered by the police, they just smile and drive by. It´s not the police that make the rules, but they are the ones that have to make sure they are followed. Be angry at the people that called the police, not the police, they didnt do anything wrong. The rules in Portugal are much stricter, good luck ;-)
Thank you for your feedback.
If I want to take my chair out, just go to a paid area? Would you also tell the jew during world war 2 "if you don't want to get killed just don't go out"? I think your observation that the chair in itself very few people have a problem with is actually emphasizing just how corrupt one of Europe's most depopulated countries is.
I am angry with the ones calling the police. Just as I am angry with the police for wasting tax money to cause a problem. Are you happy with that?
"A good person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty." - Mahatma Gandhi.
The freedoms we do have today, do you know who we have to thank for that? All the people who despite suffering, oppression and prosecution, stood up and shout. They were always a discomfort for many people floating with the current. Do you know who we have to thank for all the evil that happened in this world? Not just one person Adolf Hitler or two. But all the people who was compliant.
If you know better, do better. This should especially include the police. Shame on them for going out there into a dead alley and tell me to remove the leveling block. Please don't be an extension of this injustice. Rise up instead.
Portugal, as I said in the video, rolled back their idiot laws. Didn't even last one year. Your statement about Portugal is incorrect.
Hey, I would love to hear your oppinion after a couple of angry unpolite police officers paid you a visit and told you to remove a leveling block or stop sitting on the chair hahahaha, deal? Will you come back then? 🤗
Martin Andersson should stay in his own country
@@RobertRod818 You sound like a highly intellectual human being.
Why not use police resources towards something more serious, like fighting real crime?