It's Arizona! Nice dry heat, for now. Soon our monsoon kicks in and it'll put that 90/90 to shame. 115°f (46c) temperature with a 65° (19c) dew point and 50%+ humidity. Ian lives in southern Arizona so it's a bit cooler than around me. We can top out 120f or 49c, so he'd be a few degrees lower than here. Plus, Ian is a ham on camera. He's a riot to watch at times!
Ian can do pretty well with a 115 year old pistol with sights that are vestigial at best. With a modern pistol with very good sights, not so much. And yes wearing armor in the desert really sucks, that is why I invested in plate carriers. Props for wearing your helmet, I never wore mine even when being shot at.
I think it is interesting that, for all the 'progress' of small arms cartridges, we are basically going to field a short barrel suped up version of the 7x57 Mauser. We changed it to .30, we scaled it down, we copied its ballistics with the 7mm-08 which we then ignored, we jumped to a small lightweight high velocity cartridge, chopped the balls off of it with short stubby barrels and carbine gas systems, and then came full circle to a .27 caliber bullet of medium weight moving at medium speeds, a not to far cry from the slightly longer 7x57 with easily copied ballistics if you throw a medium weight .28 caliber spitzer on top, although granted from a short barrel, and it only took 130 some odd years to circle back. Even if we start from .308 Win, did it really take 70 years to accept that necking the case down to .26-.28 caliber was a good idea? Talk about a slow moving machine.
The idea of having one round for training, and another for combat still seems a little 'odd' for you infantry main small arm. I would hope some training would be done with the full fat round. Opportunities for a great whoopsies from QMs!
Seems like this "training" round is pretty pointless. When I was still in the Army, the axiom was that you trained like you would fight in war. Unless the training round matches the ballistics and recoil, your riflemen won't be properly trained to handle the actual combat round. Even with training rounds on the Bradley. they may have not had the same punch, they ballistically would mirror actual combat rounds.
Yeah, they say that the use of training ammunition which was lower powered than their combat ammunition was a major contributing factor to the events which took place during the Newhall Incident.
@@lchris2703 they did this with the norma mmg as well it is a cost thing the bullet is weighted to give similar performance to the actual round but not cost as much. Idk if it is a sound idea but I can see the reasoning behind it.
@@lchris2703 it’s a range issue. Outside of the major training installations the impact zone won’t be large enough. There are plenty of ranges that you can’t shoot 855a1 on, because the impact range isn’t large enough but 855 is perfectly fine.
@@collateral9159 most P320 models require it. My M17 had a bit of a sluggish cycle during the first 2-250 rounds but I never had to force it into battery like this. Running it out of the box in a match is ill advised
My M18 was fine right out the box 200 rounds plus that weird. Put some ballistol underneath slide and just ran it. I then shot like 500+ rounds before cleaning it
Pretty decent run sir, sad to see the function issues with the Pistol. Gotta remember as you said, the ammo being used is the "training" ammo and not the full/ high-power cartridges for active duty/ combat use, so the recoil is going to be softer. I'd like to see how sustainable it can be with the combat ammo in conjunction to the weight and lessened carrying capacity. Still not sold on this system or the caliber.
I thought that was strange too until he said it was new out of the box. My first several hundred rounds on my M18 had numerous malfunctions before gradually tapering off. in my opinion
I’ve been practicing with a P320 carry tactical and a compact model for almost two years now, maybe 1000 rounds thru both. Flawless cycling, 100% reliability out of my pistols. Maybe slide rails/barrel hood too dry? And sand/dirt choked?
My experience shooting a Browning Hi Power, which for me is likely the pistol I have experienced the greatest inherent accuracy with when I REALLY slowed down and focused on my irons and slowly pulled the trigger (all makes for a recipe of good accuracy), makes me feel rather a bit confident that I could tackle that pistol-shooting with some degree of confidence. Can manage a roughly 1.5" (3.75cm?) grouping at 10m (11yd). Focus on the front sight, pull the trigger slowly, and the bullet would go almost exactly where I wanted it to. Oh and just let the recoil happen; allow the pistol to go off on its own time as you slowly pull the trigger. You'll end up with the muzzle pointed at a slightly upward angle after the shot before you then manually bring the sights back down, but this is the recipe I have found to produce the greatest accuracy. Maybe take one shot every two seconds, and I found that I just about could not miss.
Sig sells the M17 on the open market. ETA after hearing Ian’s comment: Sig sold off the initial batch of M17s used in one of the trials, those would have been the surplus ones
@@AbsolutionArmament the military M17's are the same as the military M18's. No lightening cuts, different attachment of the rear plate, etc. The safety changes to the civilian P320 were based on what they did with the M17. And no, there's no plans I've heard of to switch the M17 for the M18.
I imagine the hot battle ammo eats through barrels twice as fast as the range stuff - and eats through the suppressor too. But honestly with the suppressor both types of ammunition will be tame to shoot.....a suppressed 300 win mag (just for fun) shoots like an unsupressed .243. Kids stuff.
I watched a video about the suppressor, the engineering going into it is pretty awesome. It is 3d printed and is designed in a way that it uses heat to draw ambient air in through cooling channels and hot air out.
It will be interesting to see if the precision offered by the m5 + computational optic will reduce necessary volume of fire from riflemen sufficiently to counter the drop in carrying capacity due to increased weight.
Would have been very desirable to see Ian on the more rifle use stage. Good to get some first hand information on the performance of the M 5. Surprised at the poor performance of the M 17 pistol tho .
I can't help but wonder how much better off this would have been as a bull pup. They could have gotten same velocity with a longer barrel and same over all length. Solves many of the odd case issues and brings center of mass back into shooter helping balance the can.
@@ALegitimateTH-camr The only important complaints against bullpups are ambidexterity and trigger-feel, both of which shouldn't be an issue in a new, modern rifle.
@@aloadofbollocks988 Even better. Ian answered one of my Q&A questions some time ago about using an electronic sear for bull pups. th-cam.com/video/4FSloCRmYDI/w-d-xo.html Basically the only reason not to was, "The government is going to turn off my gun from space with a satellite"
@@Xechran I don't understand why it's too mechanically complex for a bullpup to mimic a standard rifles trigger after how so many years of experience and modern technology.
One thing I am noticing is just how heavy the rifle appears. Watching Ian lift the Spear vs most other rifles is quite the change. Could just be heat fatigue though.
It would seem that having a suppressor will only be useful for the first shots of an engagement when you still have the element of surprise, then degenerating into something much louder and chaotic. In the latter case I would think that removing the suppressor and upping the noise level will do more to conceal your movements than you would otherwise gain through sound reduction. Coupled of course with helmet headsets or other communications gear that eliminates some of the need for yelling.
The suppressor on the M5 isn't about concealment, it's about safety. The primary focus is preventing soldiers from going deaf as a result of their own gunfire.
@@alastair852 I agree, and I understood that across the two videos. It's what communications headsets can do, cutting out external sound to aid in hearing essential things without resorting to excessive volume, thus providing two avenues of hearing protection.
They need to hurry up and drop so Spears onto the consumer market without the 1 edition price tag and suppressor. I would pay 4K all day for this rifle but I think the problem is going to be finding one in the next several years. I doubt Sig will release a large batch to dealers anytime soon because they have to fulfill the military contract first. That being said the other company filed a protest so the military won’t be accepting a huge number of rifles until that is handled I believe. Maybe we get lucky and get a round or two of them released on the civilian market. It’s a awesome rifle and round.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the ngsw bullpup entry when that gets into full civilian production. Think it's called the 277 genesis.. right? Idk. But it looks rad
Need a directional lav mic by the way, then we can actually hear you no matter the noise in omnidirectional areas around you. Even Bluetooth wireless ones too from Rode. Please audio visual go like bread and butter
The FAL would probably have been in 280 if not for the US barging in with sloppy demands. Interesting thought considering this is in 277. This is essentially a 70 year redux on a chain of mistakes. Would like to see some FAL's and M14's in this spec. The longer barrels and distribution of the mass could really compliment the round. Plus the sexy flash hiders and bayonet just incase.
Nice, rifle!!! I think I could hit target after target with ease with something that accurate. You should do a video on the Bersa TPR9. It's msrp is around $450 . It has Ambi slide releases, and decocker fire safety switches. The TPR9 is a da/sa hammer fired gun with 17+1 round capacity.
Love the video. ( Can you redo the sound , then replace the video ? I generally hear everyone of your post very well. This one I had to max the volume out. )
Once again I have to ask what's it like with military ammo, which would mean more gas, would it still stop gas in the face? Also what's the recoil like shooting military ammo? I know these are difficult question to ask because Sig is afraid of the politics but gun control advocates are still going to call it a weapon of war in civilian hands regardless of Sig not making military ammo available for it to civilians.
Gun control advocates will hate it no matter what, yeah I mean an SMLE is still not too uncommon to see on the modern battlefield, so it's absolutely a "weapon of war" Sig, and anybody else, shouldn't care what those people have to say And if they do manage to pass more control Well, we have these guns for a reason right?
TFB TV had a good overview video on shooting this gun as they weren't given this one that everybody else received. They actually shot the full-power SIG FURY round the military will get so we get an actual insight into what the combatants will be using. Suffice to say, it doesn't look good. Way too powerful. Even bulky-build, trained shooters struggled to keep it on target with the recoil.
The game would have the most bizarre line-up of weapons - the shotgun would be a single-shot model with an Alofs adapter and the SMG would be a French folding model.
@@AshleyPomeroy WHERE are all of the new games with wacky weird shit like this. I would LOVE a game with an Alofs-modded shotgun or a Hotchkiss Portative.
A gun being handed off to multiple people that take extremely variable care of that gun. Well excellent real world military test environment. Two thumbs up!
Praise worthy, for $70!The only issue was the round gasket ring seal between the CO2 and needle th-cam.com/users/postUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ . Withered away, and I'm having a tough time finding a replacement.Gun still works perfectly, but needs a new gasket. Can someone please say where to find the gasket replacement?
All moustache, no sleeves.
All business, all the time.
You think if he shaves he’ll have mustache tan lines?
It's Arizona! Nice dry heat, for now. Soon our monsoon kicks in and it'll put that 90/90 to shame. 115°f (46c) temperature with a 65° (19c) dew point and 50%+ humidity.
Ian lives in southern Arizona so it's a bit cooler than around me. We can top out 120f or 49c, so he'd be a few degrees lower than here.
Plus, Ian is a ham on camera. He's a riot to watch at times!
High speed low drag
Very French Longue indeed
Like I've said before, Ian puts a new meaning to "I love my job". Love the channel. Keep doing what you're doing!
“Best job I ever had”
who wouldnt love that job lol
For real, he's genuine and super knowledgeable. plus gives great information and tons of history, he's definitely "the gun guy"
@@TechandTools1 that's why we call him "Gun Jesus"
@@Trumplican che non possa
No lie that being the Spear that's been on many YT channels makes it desirable to a certain kind of collector...
Needs its own silver play button stamp on the receiver.
I'd love that slutty gat.
However i'm not willing to part with a kidney or pick up reloading a weird caliber. Still cool as heck.
@@MenwithHill I think that rifle's view count might have earned it a Gold one already
In a hundred years, if the rifle survives, it'll become a legendary item.
It would go from about the current Sig Sauer Msrp of $7k to about $18k for just being all over TH-cam!
I love the bare arms and way too big flak vest. It’s so tactical try hard it’s perfect.
Ian not only shoots guns but has some guns he looks like a a mercenary in an old action movie
Ian can do pretty well with a 115 year old pistol with sights that are vestigial at best. With a modern pistol with very good sights, not so much.
And yes wearing armor in the desert really sucks, that is why I invested in plate carriers. Props for wearing your helmet, I never wore mine even when being shot at.
Yeah but probably a 115 year old french pistol so that makes all the difference
Man, helmets are not that bad.
I think it is interesting that, for all the 'progress' of small arms cartridges, we are basically going to field a short barrel suped up version of the 7x57 Mauser. We changed it to .30, we scaled it down, we copied its ballistics with the 7mm-08 which we then ignored, we jumped to a small lightweight high velocity cartridge, chopped the balls off of it with short stubby barrels and carbine gas systems, and then came full circle to a .27 caliber bullet of medium weight moving at medium speeds, a not to far cry from the slightly longer 7x57 with easily copied ballistics if you throw a medium weight .28 caliber spitzer on top, although granted from a short barrel, and it only took 130 some odd years to circle back.
Even if we start from .308 Win, did it really take 70 years to accept that necking the case down to .26-.28 caliber was a good idea? Talk about a slow moving machine.
The idea of having one round for training, and another for combat still seems a little 'odd' for you infantry main small arm. I would hope some training would be done with the full fat round. Opportunities for a great whoopsies from QMs!
Seems like this "training" round is pretty pointless. When I was still in the Army, the axiom was that you trained like you would fight in war. Unless the training round matches the ballistics and recoil, your riflemen won't be properly trained to handle the actual combat round. Even with training rounds on the Bradley. they may have not had the same punch, they ballistically would mirror actual combat rounds.
Yeah, they say that the use of training ammunition which was lower powered than their combat ammunition was a major contributing factor to the events which took place during the Newhall Incident.
@@lchris2703 they did this with the norma mmg as well it is a cost thing the bullet is weighted to give similar performance to the actual round but not cost as much. Idk if it is a sound idea but I can see the reasoning behind it.
@@lchris2703 it’s a range issue. Outside of the major training installations the impact zone won’t be large enough. There are plenty of ranges that you can’t shoot 855a1 on, because the impact range isn’t large enough but 855 is perfectly fine.
So much for the whole "Train as you fight, fight as you train" thing.
The brotherhood of the travelling (SIG) Spear.
Ian you should totally try out the Wilson combat grip module for the M17. Completely changed the ergonomics of the weapon for the better in my case.
That tire you were lugging around looked pretty nice.
Motivation! Ian's in shape, swinging those kettlebells like a champ! No bodybuilding nonsense, just good old endurance and performance.
At some point Ian will manage to run a 2-gun within a G11 and it will be glorious.
Ian looks really cool.With his sleeveless shirt and helmet.
The M17 generally requires a break in period. They come pretty tight out of the box and need to loosen up a little bit
thats facts. I had the joy of being the first class in AIT to get them and we got to shoot 1000 rounds over a week period
@@collateral9159 most P320 models require it. My M17 had a bit of a sluggish cycle during the first 2-250 rounds but I never had to force it into battery like this. Running it out of the box in a match is ill advised
My M18 was fine right out the box 200 rounds plus that weird. Put some ballistol underneath slide and just ran it. I then shot like 500+ rounds before cleaning it
M17 and M18 are among the best looking pistols in my opinion
With the sleeves cut off, wouldn't you be competing in a FOUR gun match? 🤣
Pretty decent run sir, sad to see the function issues with the Pistol.
Gotta remember as you said, the ammo being used is the "training" ammo and not the full/ high-power cartridges for active duty/ combat use, so the recoil is going to be softer. I'd like to see how sustainable it can be with the combat ammo in conjunction to the weight and lessened carrying capacity. Still not sold on this system or the caliber.
Speaking from experience, the need to whack the M17 went away after about 200-300 rounds for me.
Rocking the Vietnam look in the desert.
Why do you think the M17 was having so many malfunctions?
I thought that was strange too until he said it was new out of the box. My first several hundred rounds on my M18 had numerous malfunctions before gradually tapering off. in my opinion
I’ve been practicing with a P320 carry tactical and a compact model for almost two years now, maybe 1000 rounds thru both. Flawless cycling, 100% reliability out of my pistols. Maybe slide rails/barrel hood too dry? And sand/dirt choked?
It sucks
@@tomahawk1911 I have a P320 that I converted to an M17; had it since they came out. I've also had 0 malfunctions, ever.
Damn Ian, looking like on my dudes in XCOM 2.
Love the Desert Storm aesthetics. And i'm sure your guns (arms) love getting some sun.
Sun's out, Guns out. Loving the content
Ian flexing his right to bare arms
We need this look in every video.
This is your new look! 😄
Good job Ian! Out there trying and practicing! Keep at it brother
Thank you Ian
My experience shooting a Browning Hi Power, which for me is likely the pistol I have experienced the greatest inherent accuracy with when I REALLY slowed down and focused on my irons and slowly pulled the trigger (all makes for a recipe of good accuracy), makes me feel rather a bit confident that I could tackle that pistol-shooting with some degree of confidence. Can manage a roughly 1.5" (3.75cm?) grouping at 10m (11yd). Focus on the front sight, pull the trigger slowly, and the bullet would go almost exactly where I wanted it to. Oh and just let the recoil happen; allow the pistol to go off on its own time as you slowly pull the trigger. You'll end up with the muzzle pointed at a slightly upward angle after the shot before you then manually bring the sights back down, but this is the recipe I have found to produce the greatest accuracy. Maybe take one shot every two seconds, and I found that I just about could not miss.
Mad respect for showing us your skills. Keep up the good work!
How are there already "surplus" new military pistols?
And I want to see Ian shooting full pressure battle ammo.
Sig sells the M17 on the open market. ETA after hearing Ian’s comment: Sig sold off the initial batch of M17s used in one of the trials, those would have been the surplus ones
They are meeting their contract obligations and selling them on the market as well I guess
You know what you right,
But there still are difference between the M18 and p320-M18
@@AbsolutionArmament the military M17's are the same as the military M18's. No lightening cuts, different attachment of the rear plate, etc. The safety changes to the civilian P320 were based on what they did with the M17. And no, there's no plans I've heard of to switch the M17 for the M18.
@@bobbertbobberson6725 M17s are the standard issue across the board, M18s are issued to MPs and other MOSs that may need a compact pistol.
dude you looking like a C&C GDI rifleman from renegade/live action cutscenes :D
that getup is phenomenal
On my brand new M17 and a few others I've seen they also have issues going into battery but that seems to clear up as they break in.
Garand Thumb and you would be the best combo!
Love the farmers tan, love your videos
Ian you're a legend! Always have been!
you can literally see how fucking heavy this peace is! wtf
excellent review
We all wish we were better at something, thank you for your content!
I like how Ian built this channel by not using the exact same format as some of the most popular gun tubers lol.
Whoa! Look at the guns! And that new military rifle is cool as well!
Great video. Thanks dude
I imagine the hot battle ammo eats through barrels twice as fast as the range stuff - and eats through the suppressor too.
But honestly with the suppressor both types of ammunition will be tame to shoot.....a suppressed 300 win mag (just for fun) shoots like an unsupressed .243. Kids stuff.
I watched a video about the suppressor, the engineering going into it is pretty awesome. It is 3d printed and is designed in a way that it uses heat to draw ambient air in through cooling channels and hot air out.
Thank you, your opinion means a lot!
It will be interesting to see if the precision offered by the m5 + computational optic will reduce necessary volume of fire from riflemen sufficiently to counter the drop in carrying capacity due to increased weight.
Doubtful. It's just human nature to throw lots of lead at things that may be trying to kill you. Still, I think it will enhance capabilities.
Thanks for the great content.
The ricochets at the end didn’t sound safe.
Would have been very desirable to see Ian on the more rifle use stage. Good to get some first hand information on the performance of the M 5. Surprised at the poor performance of the M 17 pistol tho .
Thank you for sharing
Great practical demo of the Spear! What ammo were you using in your pistol? That's definitely a concerning level of failures for the M18.
We had a lot of problems with the m17 in Kuwait when round counts started to get up there. I'm not sold on it being better than the m9
Dear LOARD tell me you slapped on some SPF 60...
Actually IAN's Character. "He explains the weapon or how to choose one,Maybe his preferred weapon " and Go to WAR...
I'm assuming the 2-guns you're talking about are those cannons coming from your shoulders?
I can't help but wonder how much better off this would have been as a bull pup.
They could have gotten same velocity with a longer barrel and same over all length. Solves many of the odd case issues and brings center of mass back into shooter helping balance the can.
ya, to me the bullpup always comes off as a better design. the pros just outweigh the cons.
@@ALegitimateTH-camr The only important complaints against bullpups are ambidexterity and trigger-feel, both of which shouldn't be an issue in a new, modern rifle.
bullpups are a silly relic of the 20th century best left in the past.
@@aloadofbollocks988 Even better. Ian answered one of my Q&A questions some time ago about using an electronic sear for bull pups.
th-cam.com/video/4FSloCRmYDI/w-d-xo.html
Basically the only reason not to was, "The government is going to turn off my gun from space with a satellite"
@@Xechran I don't understand why it's too mechanically complex for a bullpup to mimic a standard rifles trigger after how so many years of experience and modern technology.
Where is the rest of shooting video? The cavalry hat and yellow shirt preview from the previous video?
Thanks Ian I'm more of a rifle guy myself as well.
One thing I am noticing is just how heavy the rifle appears. Watching Ian lift the Spear vs most other rifles is quite the change. Could just be heat fatigue though.
It would seem that having a suppressor will only be useful for the first shots of an engagement when you still have the element of surprise, then degenerating into something much louder and chaotic. In the latter case I would think that removing the suppressor and upping the noise level will do more to conceal your movements than you would otherwise gain through sound reduction. Coupled of course with helmet headsets or other communications gear that eliminates some of the need for yelling.
The suppressor on the M5 isn't about concealment, it's about safety. The primary focus is preventing soldiers from going deaf as a result of their own gunfire.
@@alastair852 I agree, and I understood that across the two videos. It's what communications headsets can do, cutting out external sound to aid in hearing essential things without resorting to excessive volume, thus providing two avenues of hearing protection.
Suns out, guns out 🌞 💪🏻
I really like how down to earth he is.
They need to hurry up and drop so Spears onto the consumer market without the 1 edition price tag and suppressor. I would pay 4K all day for this rifle but I think the problem is going to be finding one in the next several years. I doubt Sig will release a large batch to dealers anytime soon because they have to fulfill the military contract first. That being said the other company filed a protest so the military won’t be accepting a huge number of rifles until that is handled I believe. Maybe we get lucky and get a round or two of them released on the civilian market. It’s a awesome rifle and round.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the ngsw bullpup entry when that gets into full civilian production. Think it's called the 277 genesis.. right? Idk. But it looks rad
More like 3 gun match with those arms!
Ian be packing some guns under those sleeves!
Ian with the matching kit 😎
The Spear a "forgotten firearm"? Won,t be long.
SUN'S OUT - GUNS OUT.
Need a directional lav mic by the way, then we can actually hear you no matter the noise in omnidirectional areas around you. Even Bluetooth wireless ones too from Rode. Please audio visual go like bread and butter
The three rows target is very clever.
For the M5 I repeat miself, it's a well made XXI century take on the fal/battle rifle concept.
The FAL would probably have been in 280 if not for the US barging in with sloppy demands. Interesting thought considering this is in 277. This is essentially a 70 year redux on a chain of mistakes. Would like to see some FAL's and M14's in this spec. The longer barrels and distribution of the mass could really compliment the round. Plus the sexy flash hiders and bayonet just incase.
@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 this round is way more powerfull, full rifle and more.
Something about running 2022 Weapons with 1994 gear that is kinda comical lol
Ian rolling up ready for the first and third Gulf War at the same time.
Ian look like some merc from Metal Gear here.
We need the expected velocity of the projectile for the real ammo,, Then determine if 30 ought 6 would get that,, or 300 wshort mag
Nice, rifle!!! I think I could hit target after target with ease with something that accurate. You should do a video on the Bersa TPR9. It's msrp is around $450 . It has Ambi slide releases, and decocker fire safety switches. The TPR9 is a da/sa hammer fired gun with 17+1 round capacity.
working on that farmer’s tan I see
I wanna see the runs of who ever took first place
Love the video. ( Can you redo the sound , then replace the video ? I generally hear everyone of your post very well. This one I had to max the volume out. )
Thank you.
Where is the 80k PSI ammo?
Great video
Suns out - Guns out
Holy fuck Ian is ripped
I thought it was some spec ops bro on the thumbnail for a second
Idk seems a little awkwardly sized for cqb i mean imagine clearing a building with a fal I get the same feeling looking at that bulky rifle
Sun's out guns out!
Im still skeptical of the rifle but every video I see changes my mind a lil more
SIG Spear sounds like six beer :D
2:45 "11 pound rifle"
Once again I have to ask what's it like with military ammo, which would mean more gas, would it still stop gas in the face? Also what's the recoil like shooting military ammo? I know these are difficult question to ask because Sig is afraid of the politics but gun control advocates are still going to call it a weapon of war in civilian hands regardless of Sig not making military ammo available for it to civilians.
Gun control advocates will hate it no matter what, yeah
I mean an SMLE is still not too uncommon to see on the modern battlefield, so it's absolutely a "weapon of war"
Sig, and anybody else, shouldn't care what those people have to say
And if they do manage to pass more control
Well, we have these guns for a reason right?
Absurd waste of taxpayer dollars. You cant complain about the budget deficit and support this weapon as a new platform. Period.
TFB TV had a good overview video on shooting this gun as they weren't given this one that everybody else received. They actually shot the full-power SIG FURY round the military will get so we get an actual insight into what the combatants will be using. Suffice to say, it doesn't look good. Way too powerful. Even bulky-build, trained shooters struggled to keep it on target with the recoil.
Hehe just put more!/s
i must have a different TFB TV youtube channel...
Suns out guns out!
If the M4 cannot pierce Chinese worn body armour but the M5 with military grade ammo can .............no worries mate!
Крутая винтовка!
Ian needs to be a unlockble character in a game that explains every gun you pick up.
The game would have the most bizarre line-up of weapons - the shotgun would be a single-shot model with an Alofs adapter and the SMG would be a French folding model.
Luty…
Hell no. I don’t wanna have to hear “MoRe mOdErn aR15” everytime i pick up an AK.
And says random French facts
@@AshleyPomeroy WHERE are all of the new games with wacky weird shit like this. I would LOVE a game with an Alofs-modded shotgun or a Hotchkiss Portative.
“What do you normally wear to the range?”
“A flak vest”
“And??”
“……and….?”
"And these SICK PYTHONS"
UHMHM ITZ ""FLAK""
@@videoarchiveseries4365 LOLLL dudes wearing a vest made from a grain apparently. Didn’t even notice until now
Fresh white Reeboks, kickin your ass!
yeah google image that, i dare you
I just love how Ian's "Modern" US Army loadout is just Desert Storm kit.
@@bahshas cool.
@@bahshas very cool
@@bahshas o
Po
Desert Storm Kit with modern firearms
He did it all for the cookie.
A gun being handed off to multiple people that take extremely variable care of that gun. Well excellent real world military test environment. Two thumbs up!
This made me chortle
@@jagdal8503 Same. 😂
Praise worthy, for $70!The only issue was the round gasket ring seal between the CO2 and needle th-cam.com/users/postUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ . Withered away, and I'm having a tough time finding a replacement.Gun still works perfectly, but needs a new gasket. Can someone please say where to find the gasket replacement?
I see Ian brought tickets for the GUN SHOW 💪💪
Out there doing a 2-gun with four guns.
@@Stevie-J suns out tums out
Sort of.
*bought
he doesn’t need tickets, he’s the whole expo