Visual Inconsistencies in Oddworld Characters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- Enjoy 25 minutes of me talking about insignificant Oddworld details.
I don't expect to make more videos in this format, but you never know.
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00:00 Intro
00:41 Mudokons - Abe's Oddysee
05:05 Mudokons - Abe's Exoddus
07:15 Mudokons - Munch's Oddysee
09:35 Mudokons - New 'N' Tasty
12:43 Mudokons - Soulstorm
14:39 Sligs - Abe's Oddysee
15:46 Sligs - Abe's Exoddus
16:48 Sligs - Munch's Oddysee
17:16 Sligs - New 'N' Tasty
17:48 Sligs - Soulstorm
18:40 Glukkons - Abe's Oddysee
19:45 Glukkons - New 'N' Tasty
20:23 Glukkons - Abe's Exoddus
23:05 Glukkons - Munch's Oddysee
23:15 Glukkons - Soulstorm
23:38 Bonus Trivia
25:15 Credits
Here's a gallery with images I made for the video:
htmlearth.com/media/oddworldc...
Here are all the links from the credits:
TOGG (Oddworld images):
oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...
Lorne drawing on a screen:
• Unite Berlin 2018 - Od...
JAW 2011 Xmas:
www.jawltd.com/xmas11/
Orange Abe:
magogonthemarch.wordpress.com...
"Making Of Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 20th Anniversary PlayStation 4 Dynamic Theme":
• Making Of Oddworld: Ab...
Slig mask poll:
oddwords.hu/newsurvey/#do-you...
Comparison of Abe's Oddysee / Abe a Go-Go
tcrf.net/Oddworld:_Abe%27s_Od...
Switching from PowerAnimator to Maya
www.cgw.com/Publications/CGW/...
And a link for Altered States (one of the sound libraries used for AO/AE):
zero-g.co.uk/products/altered...
Also I forgot to mention the main font I used: D-DIN
If you have AO/AE on PC but wish it worked better on modern machines, check out R.E.L.I.V.E:
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I've just uploaded a gallery with images made for the video here:
htmlearth.com/media/oddworldcompare/
What difference on Mudokons is this??? Same designs from New 'n' Tasty???
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it would kinda make sense that mudokons had no teeth since in oddworld lore, mudokons evolved from birds,
Muds have teeth now.
Dinos evolved INTO birds though... maybe it's the opposite.
I'm not really a fan of the new designs, I think the gritty realistic look coupled with goofy proportions and slapstick dark humour of the original first 2 games meshed so well
O god I agree, didn't know there was a new game
And their animations looked as if they had more weight, they looked more realistic.
You say that like you're not twelve years old and just agreeing with the video.
Yush feel the same though I take as the new designs with a pinch of salt. But I lean towards the original designs and style more just has more charm and fantasy alien world vibe.
The new games didn’t capture that dark , depressed , hopeless, deadly atmosphere the Originals had . The cinematic art background they used in the originals can’t be matched .
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I deeply appreciate the dramatic sting paired with the clip here.
I've been obsessing over Oddworld my entire life and you've shown me new things I never knew! Love this video, hope you do more like it in the future, and if not, I'm still thankful for this one.
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@@melanieschmidt8753 nice colour scheme!!! I love it
I played it when I was about 5.
It's an amazing series
The flying slig with wings can be heard exploding after complaining that something smells. The wings were likely an older (and less reliable) design in universe as well.
12:17 you sounded so much like Abe here, I love it
Aw lol he did
Mudokon's hairline is cursed knowledge, and now I can't unsee it, thanks.
One of the biggest shocks for me was realizing that I always though Abe's eyes were that little black dot on the model of the profile silhouette, when in reality they were far below.
Omg I just realised that now
This was such an interesting watch. You were right, I could never pinpoint why any of the changes looked weird.
Props to the glukks staying consistent through most of the series
Adding teeth was a mistake, it made them look more human and less like they should, alien. Also visor masks makes Sligs look much more badass and intimidating as they should, pilot goggles and lenses should only be used by the flying ones and sligs that aren't armed (meaning civil sligs) to make them more unique as well.
Personally I feel like it makes much more sense for them to have teeth, since it would actually allow them to eat.
Although, I do have another idea for what to do.
Since Mudokons evolved from birds, why not make the teeth into beaks?
@@wumpus976 Make them eat something that doesn't require to be chewed. They're not humans. Maybe drinking is all they need, like Piccolo from Dragon Ball Z (even if he does have teeth).
@@damsen978 fair point.
@@damsen978Thing is Abe and his fellow mudokons worked at Rupture Farms a meat factory and as we can tell in the intro of the game they ate some of the products like paramite pies and Scrab cakes
For me teeth are ok, they are lot more tiny than human teeth, and it allow the muds to be more expresive
Specially Abe in New'n'tasty and Soulstorm cutscenes
@@davidcamilo8577 But the idea is to make them more alien and less human-like, while still being humanoid. It's like adding a human jaw to the Sanghelli/Elites from Halo games, they would lose part of their identity. Same with Mudokons.
The editing. *THE EDITING.*
Keep up the good work :)
I've always loved that Gluckons are like a much taller guy cut off at the wait. It gives me Dark Crystal vibes, like they were a whole thing once and are incomplete somehow
About the “yellow” slig thing… You probably should test for red-green colorblindness
This kind of video is awesome, excellent attention to detail. I didn't notice half of these things about Oddworld. Please make more of this type!
i think exodus is pretty remarkable considering they rushed it out in 1 year
It plays better than soulstorm, soulstorm is repetitive
This was absolutely amazing, I love Oddworld so much and the details you explored are fascinating. I commend you for your effort and the amount of time this video must have taken.
Also I am glad you talked a bit about Green Suit Glukkon from Oddysee, he's always been my favorite.
This was superb work, I'm very impressed on your eye for detail.
Thank you for this fantastic video. The editing was insanely good! And I learned a bunch of new things about these games, which I've played and replayed for like 20 years!
Absolutely incredible video. You obviously have a great deal of knowledge of how games and their art work under the hood and attention to detail, but you have the ability to convey the information to a layman very clearly.
The editing, the script, the delivery, the insights... Terrific job!
This game was so unusually dark for its time and I kind of love it. I would like to download an emulator and play it again from start to finish. It's super hard and really intricate which is surprising and I don't remember ever beating either the first or second game as I was a kid. Yeah it's great. I feel like Abe's creatures were an inspiration for the Vorrigaunts from the Half-Life series and Strangers Wrath is so good! 😂 Thanks for making the video and reminding me of a gem from my past
An emulator? I think the original still works:) The Steam versions of Oddysee and Exoddus should work.
One of the few videos of which I haven't skipped a single second while watching, great effort indeed.
Your editing is just... So good. On point, man!
Simply brilliant video! The amount of research done is really noticeable, great job!
I've never played any of these games but I was genuinely interested the whole way through, great video!
I'm now kinda interested in playing the games now
the music, mannnn. brings me back and a tear to my eye
What a spectacular video. Remarkably well put together.
I really appreciate all of the effort that went into the graphic design elements, and the animations between parts.
I've loved Oddysee and Exoddus since I was a kid, so I love seeing deep-dives like this for these games.
Thanks for a cool video.
I love how the funnies in the video are perfectly timed with what he says, makes it more fun to watch!
really respect the amount of effort put into this video. The editing, research, great audio and footage. fantastic man, learned a ton of trivia!
Quality vid, down to the end card showing the music having a legend to it so it's easier to sort, fantastic.
For all its flaws, I think Soultorm took a step in the right direction by giving individual characters unique appearances. After all, humans aren't all identical, why would Mudokons or Glukkons be?
I'm really glad someone is still making videos about Oddworld Abe's Exoddus and Oddysee
I am so glad you made this video, been thinking about the in depth inconsintincies in the back of mind for over 10 years and you have filled the gap in my mind 😂
Wow, this is great stuff, this is really in depth!
I never played a single one of these games, but I am a sucker for deep dives into small details like this.
Fantastic video, I was surprised I hadn't seen a video comparing all the model differences across the games because it is very interesting following the creative process of Oddworld games. I noticed the inconsistency with the slig masks when they made Exodus but I thought it was just down to preference, so most of the in-game sligs were in a standard guard uniform while the Glukkon assistants/TV presenter use the round lens ones to try look appealing.
Amazing editing and very entertaining!!
I always loved the style of the older games how it was dark and dreary, but borders on comedy. It's nice to see them get the HD treatment but I think the charm is gone with the newer games, and maybe going towards more of the silly direction.
I can't believe how much effort has been put into making this video and it doesn't have views while other stupid videos are having many views. Great video!
Soul-storm is a refreshing take on the characters, I found it jarring at first, but Ive come to welcome the change, I hope to see more of these versions of Abe and the cast.
Just so people know, they changed the amount of fingers to 3 because in Japan, having 4 fingers meant you were a criminal. This was because in some Japanese gangs, members would cut off their pinky in order to pay penance to an offence made towards the group
That’s not right, why would they want to limit the visual of criminals when there’s so much media about Yakuza in anime? Gangs, violence, and criminality is basically a trope there. It was culturally motivated.
That's not true. They changed the four fingers due to the connotations it had with the Burakumin, a social caste that was ostracized and humiliated during centuries by Japanese society due to the fact that they worked as butchers, tanners or undertakers, which were considered impure jobs as they had to deal with blood. In Japan and China 4 is a bad luck number because it can be pronounced like "shi" (death) and in Japanese folklore only animals have four fingers, so saying that the Burakumin had four fingers was like saying that they were not humans.
Absurdly good job on this, such a fascinating look back!
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Fantastic editing, audio quality, music choice etc. Finally some good fucking Oddworld content.
great video! everything is detailed and clear!
I've never even heard of this game series but this was a very interesting video!
I really wish this video was an hour long, I just love how interesting it all is
this is such a good video. i need more!!!!
ooh the devil may cry 1 mission select song from those few missions when the glukkons come in is nice
amazing video dude
A wonderful video, instant like!
Excellent video! Neat stuff
Ha! I've been nitpicking about loads of this stuff for over 20 years. Always felt like I was the only person who noticed the hand tattoo change (which doesn't even make sense as they're Exoddus artwork)
Great work
very cool presentation, thank you!
Man, was kinda hoping this video would be about the changing aesthetic/style of character/creature designs within the series over time, i.e. comparing creature designs of species introduced in Abe's Oddysee to the designs of those introduced in Stranger's Wrath.
IMO, there's been a pretty clear, radical departure from what the series' initial aesthetic seemed to be, and I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on it. Whenever I hear ppl discussing Oddworld's artstyle, they're just talking about how unique and quirky it is or w/e, but only as a whole.
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I would have really loved to see the original models in later cutscenes, they really did nail the charm and really fit the character pretty much perfectly
Yeah, the thing with Sligs being depicted as green is likely why in the Game Boy Colour version of the game, they are green there. Though the Flying Sligs are yellow.
Also, one thing I never see anyone mention: in Abe's Oddysee you play a flashback, detailing the events of the past 24 hours. Yet every time you go back to Monsaic Lines, the area is always the same brightness, even-though once you finish Scrabania, the sun is clearly setting
What is this? A new Oddworld video by someone? Fuck yeah what a perfect time to find this channel.
Also what the fuck this production quality is INSANE. The transitions from Mudokons -> Sligs -> Glukkons are top notch!
Woah did abe dance?! 25:13
Thanks for your video!
This video is great and underrated, just like the game series.
Obscure video game factoids give me life.
This is some original stuff 👏 👌 🙌 entertaining and makes you think about the creative process
Some feedback- I didn't know about the three-fingers-in-Japan thing. I think you used as much time explaining why the viewer should just Google it as you could have used explaining the three-fingers thing. That left me a little dissatisfied.
Best. Oddworld. Video. Ever.
Great video very professional
I really like new n tasty abe, hes very adorable and cartoony especially with that ending expression.
2:29 I know the Saint related to this but is my favorite line from oddworld in general
Nice video!
What a great video!
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the hand scars were completely different in design from Oddysee to Exoddus.
Liked the transitions
Great video
Great video! I can tell it took you a long time to make this 🙏🏻 I never liked how the meditation sounded in new and tasty, taking over someone’s body always sounded so majestic in the 2 original ones, why did they change it? Oh well..
great video!
I've been...liking Oddworld? Lately I been wanting to learn more about this series.
I don't know about any of you guys but I miss the Visor masks
Keep on!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you
We all are mudokon, in this hard times......
great vid
You should make a series of these kinds of videos
Spot on.. love the 90's game.. such grit and grime!
This is a phenomenal video. Thank you for the effort. Much of it I had noticed myself, but picked up plenty of new bits along the way.
The original can't be matched for me. Whilst New N' Tasty was a spirited effort, much of the bleakness of the atmosphere in places like Rupture Farms and the Free Fire Zone is lost to changes in lighting. In the original, Rupture looks like what it is - a slaughterhouse. In New N' Tasty, the fluorescent glow makes it look industrial, but not at all a terrifying place to work/be enslaved. The constantly chattering Mudokons also diminish the vibe of a brutal workplace, whereas their silence (until addressed by Abe) in the original suggests them having been subjected to cruelty.
Anyways. Wonderful video!
it fits with the whole "odd world" concept
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Gosh that hairline design looks awful thank goodness they didn't end up using it lol. I can appreciate them giving mudokons In Soulstorm distinguishing facial designs, it gives each mudokon unique look and personality them but I can't really say the same for Abe cause his original design is just do much better. Regardless, the cut scenes in Soul storm look gorgeous. Unfortunately I did not like the gameplay at all for soulstorm, the story however seemed pretty neat and hopefully they'll continue it with a future sequel.
Awesome vid bro!
I’m assuming to paint over the textures Oddworld Inhabitants just used a feature called “Alpha Lock” it just lets you paint over anything already drawn to not make a mess and appear 3D wether 2D or not.
This was cool
My dad just showed me oddworld and I fell I'm love great video btw
Awesome analysis, Oddworld is one of my all-time favourite series of games, but indeed the modern ones have lost a lot of the gritty charm that the classics had. Nevertheless it's wonderful to still have Oddworld with us.
At 10:30 a reason Abe's head is brighter in the left picture is probably because they wanted it to look like a flash from a camera.
I love the "everybody knows about the finger thing I'm not gonna cover it". I do know about the finger thing!
18.20 Is that a Slig playable hacked inside a Quake game or am I dreaming? :0
Yeah, it's an old custom model for Quake 3 Arena. There's some more info in the credits, and you can still find it online by searching for quake 3 slig.
This video is amazing! But now I would like to know what do think about Abe's model in Munch's Oddysee HD, you skipped it disgusted. I've played only the HD version, so I don't know the differences with the original on Xbox. And is hard to see on ps3, shadows are too dark
Sligs are my favourite race out of the games
I liked your video one thing missing start abe's exoddus demo if you see modkons climb up the fence enter the grounds see when abe fall they pushed abe off the edge - full verison he slip off the edge that was changed as well check abe's exoddus demo video
Lol finally someone mentions the music video
"I fell into a Gabbit hole"
Missed opportunity man! Missed opportunity...
accurate video thanks
I loved abes odyssey as a kid!!!
I have no idea when, or why I subscribed, but this is great stuff. Where did you get those high quality sprites of Abe at 1:54 though? I never seen the ingame sprites that clearly ever.
They were ripped from an old Flash demo thing from 2011. It's still here: www.jawltd.com/xmas11/ but Flash is no longer supported in most browsers.
@@HTML_Earth So, we have to restore adobe flash in order to get these rare high quality sprites?
How'd youtube know, I grew up with.... one of these games, never beat it or understood it but always loved the designs