@@patoto2152 he means its clickbait. People want attention, views and engagement on videos. And most of this creates drama. So people click on it for some f up reason).
The title should be Gen throws hard, Hal one clipped a guy and cracked the other guy when they double swung on him on the stairs, not much more anyone could do with that. Gen however, just threw.
I was watching Raven review this fight and he said Hal trolled. Should have backedup, although I do agree with you they have no business losing that fight when Hal with 1 bar of shields knocked 1 and did 100 damage on the other guy.
this same stuff happens in ranked. they are 3 man death balling. they take quite a bit of damage. i expect them all to climb up and go in. its just hal there. i understand taking multiple angles. But imop, rule #1 to every 3rd party is to take height dominance. they split hard and got punished.
@@ChillPokePullsproblem is zero is often having to scout and be the passive one. If gen isn’t with Hal fighting and they both end up dying; zero will get mad because they’re both fighting split
Yeah, but at the same time, two of the main guys switched roles on this team. So that takes time to adjust. Especially when Hal has 5 YEARS of one role. And Gen used to be in Hals spot for so long. Time will only help this team. They gonna be fine. But at the same time adjustments needs to be made by ALL 3 of them.
@@iFranOne Yeah but Hal's difference from being a IGL to Fragger vs Gen's difference is way more further thank you think. Gen should realise he's supposed to be with Hal at all times in fights, that's why he's on controller with Hal.
Usually in this situation we would blame the igl for not managing the teams macro while fighting, hal is still doing his job fragging tf out but they're not being called out of losing situations
I agree. IGL's Job isn't just initiating but also disengaging from fights. He does, but doesn't necessarily call that out. Teammates adapt over time to these calls and play around you. It's defs just one of those days 😅
@ELpeaceonearth perfection isn't a prerequisite to track a predictable motion of falling down. Also to continue to not shoot near the guy. Also 10k hours on an input that assists your aim.
It was 2v3 they knew he was alone on height. They knew his teammates were far enough away. They cracked him so they could double swing height and then turn it to a 2v2, would’ve worked if there wasn’t a swap or zero.
Genburten has, without a doubt, the best aim of any controller player. And he's held that title for a loong time. I think he just gets a little overwhelmed against pros sometimes and tries to do too much, getting himself killed. Can't wait to see this team develop some more.
This is why DZ and Hal over their careers have been dominant. They know no matter what is said or however bad the rage gets, it's all love at the end of the day. Nothing is taken to heart and in a way brings them closer as team-mates. However every other team in NA gets butthurt whenever someone in their team calls them out or rages at them lmao
Hal coming to the team has made Gen the weakest link so it’s gonna seem like he’s fucking up loads. Also he has changed roles since Hal joined the team, so there is gonna be an adjustment period
NO, he always coming in 2nd or 3rd, his mechanic is not top tier, he even lose pretty badlyto controler zero in 1v1 range. However he has one of the best if not the best awareness and game instinct, that's why he have more inpact in a battle royal with more teams
@@Daivd1111 yup, that's why... i remember seeing him bottom during TDMs and also that 1v1 with Zero was quite sad. But in an actual match, he always seems to know what to do and hit his shots when it matters
Hal just stared playing TDM when he joined DZ no? He almost never played TDM, and was 500-1000 damage less than zero or gen when he started, but he's getting better now. Gen's usually got insane amount of damage but seems to have really bad days in scrims. There are several times I clearly remember he just dies so fast.
@@Daivd1111 bro that's not just not true I mean last TDM against TSM he did more than half of the kills : th-cam.com/video/V8JeuP6zw18/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared HAL is regularly among the best fraggers in ALGS and it's not only because of his game instinct.
this scrims will definitely helps dZ teams to win the championship. They all play as ALGS and improving all their loose ends. I loved their passions. I really rooting for Hal
what's funny is in just about every clip. Hal has pulled his weight every fight. so even if he threw that last fight, he has pulled his weight while the other 2 threw all of their situations
Give Gen some time to relearn Cat and anchor again. Everybody forgets aswell, when Sikezz joined DZ was bad for a month. They’ll be back soon winning agian
Bro dark zero doing so well with gen all the time no need to change yall see two bad scrims and think gen is messing up just because hal join yall back seating gen
There is something just so unnatural about Hal and zero competing together. Gen forced into the anchor role and background of the team, and no way Hal and zero don’t butt heads if they start having bad matches when the season starts.
Too have 3 super aggressive dudes and Hal not IGL it's going to be interesting. Hal wa wanting to play guns ho wont work and they will realize it. They are in some bad positions. And Verhulst and Reps continue to have great success. I know its early but what made Gen so great was that he was mostly the gunner without having to think. And now hes gotta think a little bit with another new team.
Hal had the same thing on TSM at lan where he would either trade knocks or knock one and crack another and then die. My question is, is it worth the damage if he is dying for it too? Especially if his teammates are not in positions where they have an angle on the opponents? that 100 damage to crack is not permanent, and its not as if your teammates can immediately capitalise. Aside from that Hal fans need to watch the whole video instead of immediately deflecting. Even Hal knew he was trolling today
Your job as fragger is do as much damage as you can do. If your team pushes a fight, your team is pushing that fight until your Igl calls you off otherwise. Zero is not doing that in these fights and if I’m Hal, I’m in full send mode because I’m thinking my team has my back. I make this mistake in solo queue ranked all the time. I’ll knock one and and hit another for 150 damage. On paper you would think “oh my team should be close behind me and I’ve killed basically a team and half on my own, we got this in the bag” as you’re comming the entire time, just to figure out that your team is casually sitting on doors in the next building over not even phased by the situation and failed to com (because why use mics in ranked play) that they disengaged from the fight. I love when I push teammates to cover them while they heal and I get a knock and as I’m fighting the second dude thinking to myself “wel my teammate is popping a battery rn and I knocked the first dude, by the time I do all this damage to the second dude, my teammates should be healthy and clean up my knock for free”…. Wrong. My teammate immediately panicks and runs away
That nade sat there for a while... Hal is swinging everyone like a maniac alone😂😂😂... well Gen doesn't care about nades and can't clip people somehow😂😂😂 Zero is always left in smoke or zone not seeing anything😂😂😂 he either needs to catch up or they need to play slow
I don't watch comp but the issue is obvious Zero being the keys player has to play anchor and let gen and hal walk up keys on front line just don't work in close quarter fights which comp is mainly and hal and gen need smarten up and play together on the fragger role. Edit: hal had bad game sense in the last fight and hard swong a solo but gen was the real sell with the no sight prowl playing in a smoke
Hal has said in stream that zero plays way more aggressively than him, and for those games they win, zero was doing well as an entry fragger trying to kill or crack an enemy so that Hal and gen makes more damage. But these games he wasn't that good at creating great opportunities, and gen misses so many shots, and Hal doesn't comm that well telling when he scans. Three of them all not at their best.
Watching this just shows how much Apex players have to be on the same page play. This will be a scary team when they learn each others tendencies, but overall I think we are overestimating “superteams” in Apex. Seriously how much better can DZ perform on LAN?
this team needs to calm the fuck down with how aggressive they are in literally every fucken fight lmao, also i get why zero wants to also play with hal and want gen to anchor but like its kinda not working out here
DSG killed / third-ed DZ at tree, Lrod and overlook on these games. maybe this is why DZ is struggling, when another good edge team is on the lobby their window to fight becomes smaller as potential third party from DSG is coming fast especially timmy on Path
@@TheZerro95I mean we just don’t know that. You’re assuming that. He was on his way to becoming of the best controller players, regardless of Hal or not, that was his plan when he was in the firing range an hour a day hitting dummies to get insane aim. So yeah maybe he wouldn’t have been on TSM, but I’m pretty sure he was destined to be a pro player. Could be wrong tho
Hal’s laughing cos he use to do this to Evan reps snipe lmao
other than last game hal was doing more than enough gen was definitely trolling
fr I dont get why the title said hal is throwing
@@patoto2152 just tryna get clicks sadly
@@Unforgivenn wdym
@@patoto2152 he means its clickbait. People want attention, views and engagement on videos. And most of this creates drama. So people click on it for some f up reason).
Tbh it feels like every time I’ve seen Hal playing since he went to dz he’s been smoking. Hitting shots more and doing more but maybe that’s just me.
6:56 bro got headshotted by cat's goob
Hahaha. I laughed pretty hard at that. If the goob did damage, zero would’ve been toast! Haha
bro got facialed for real
@@goldenm1nd710Haha! 😐
4:16 Hal being DZ’s hellhound 😂 love seeing him having fun with the team
GEN BEEN THROWING HARDDDDDDDD
True, he needs a mental health week, been running it down
Tree 1 - Gen 0
Bro is getting pushed into the background while zero and Hal are in the spotlight
True but I swear these scrims are getting sweatier. They are being pushed from all angles every fight
The title should be Gen throws hard, Hal one clipped a guy and cracked the other guy when they double swung on him on the stairs, not much more anyone could do with that. Gen however, just threw.
get over it
@@XenoGrokyou're the only one tilted shitter.
didn't you see how hal pushed by himself in the open far away from his team ? lol what ?
I was watching Raven review this fight and he said Hal trolled. Should have backedup, although I do agree with you they have no business losing that fight when Hal with 1 bar of shields knocked 1 and did 100 damage on the other guy.
@@ceskyy_5645 yea the 1 game at the end? lol. Hal was carrying literally every single fight before that
Gen in his fraud phase rn 😂😂
hal is so good on fragger
4:14 bruh idc what nobody say this team is going to be hilarious to watch even without winning 😂
Nothing more iconic than Zero’s zesty ass “oh my god” 😂😂😂 dude sounds like he moans when he wipes
Why are you imagining that💀
Nah you the zesty mf with that pfp and this comment
I have never once thought that 💀 u might needa reconsider your sexuality bro
You're not alone here 😂
Why are you guy !?
I know gen is still adjusting being the anchor.. but DAMN!
Never seen Gen miss so many shots in my life.
Right, probably worried about underperforming
Best part of this team is none of them take anything personal. They'll all argue for like 10 minutes and then 5 minutes later are all joking about it
Yes this is their strongest point imo all of em can take shit
Also Zero came right back into the call and they ran some TDMs
Lmaooo this was so funny in Hal’s stream hearing zero say “goodbye!”
this same stuff happens in ranked. they are 3 man death balling. they take quite a bit of damage. i expect them all to climb up and go in. its just hal there. i understand taking multiple angles. But imop, rule #1 to every 3rd party is to take height dominance. they split hard and got punished.
Only other option is for Hal to back up and play as 3 man on back side.
@@ChillPokePullsproblem is zero is often having to scout and be the passive one. If gen isn’t with Hal fighting and they both end up dying; zero will get mad because they’re both fighting split
Yeah, but at the same time, two of the main guys switched roles on this team. So that takes time to adjust. Especially when Hal has 5 YEARS of one role. And Gen used to be in Hals spot for so long. Time will only help this team. They gonna be fine. But at the same time adjustments needs to be made by ALL 3 of them.
@@iFranOne Yeah but Hal's difference from being a IGL to Fragger vs Gen's difference is way more further thank you think. Gen should realise he's supposed to be with Hal at all times in fights, that's why he's on controller with Hal.
Usually in this situation we would blame the igl for not managing the teams macro while fighting, hal is still doing his job fragging tf out but they're not being called out of losing situations
I agree. IGL's Job isn't just initiating but also disengaging from fights. He does, but doesn't necessarily call that out. Teammates adapt over time to these calls and play around you. It's defs just one of those days 😅
Verhulst could never 1:11
Yeah definitely seen verhulst do stuff like that if not worse
@ELpeaceonearth perfection isn't a prerequisite to track a predictable motion of falling down. Also to continue to not shoot near the guy. Also 10k hours on an input that assists your aim.
seen verhulst do worst. But gen is on fraud watchlost. right no cap. He playing like a budget version of lan Gen
THOSE ALC'S !
That's extremely rare
Zero said towards the end "both of you f off" and left the 🤙 call 🤣
Lmfao GENT STANDING ON BUSINESS AT THE END BUT IT WASNT AT HIM 😂😂😂
3:58 desperate eyes looking hopelessly up to the ceiling !!
5:22 Give me whatever the fuck these 2 smoked.
It was 2v3 they knew he was alone on height. They knew his teammates were far enough away. They cracked him so they could double swing height and then turn it to a 2v2, would’ve worked if there wasn’t a swap or zero.
fyi that's LG sweet lmao
Gen on halal crack
Genburten has, without a doubt, the best aim of any controller player. And he's held that title for a loong time. I think he just gets a little overwhelmed against pros sometimes and tries to do too much, getting himself killed. Can't wait to see this team develop some more.
verhulst takes the title btw not gen
@@theydontnomeson8if Gen was on 4-3 he would gap Verhulst, Gen is way better he’s just on ALC’s so we’ll never get to see his full aim potential
@@SYDSLAT Why is he on ALC then? What does that give him? Why not play 4-3? Genuinely curious
@@SYDSLATnobody is forcing him to play ALC
@@atemkeng33 he plays ALC’s so he can turn faster and doesn’t have to sacrifice movement, that’s what Zer0 said anyways.
Honeymoons over
This is why DZ and Hal over their careers have been dominant. They know no matter what is said or however bad the rage gets, it's all love at the end of the day. Nothing is taken to heart and in a way brings them closer as team-mates. However every other team in NA gets butthurt whenever someone in their team calls them out or rages at them lmao
Gen sound like he boutta cry lol
Gen throwing hard
Zero Hal and verhaulst would go crazy gen throws so much
I love Verhulst but he was throwing a lot last LAN.
Outrageous comment gen> any day
Did you watch last Lan?
Hal coming to the team has made Gen the weakest link so it’s gonna seem like he’s fucking up loads. Also he has changed roles since Hal joined the team, so there is gonna be an adjustment period
I mean he is learning a whole new role that he doesn’t usually play and it will generally take a bit of time for him to get accustomed to it
Crazy how in TDM Hal's bottom frag but in actual games, dude is a fighting beast.
mmmh in TDM he's always first or second of his team
NO, he always coming in 2nd or 3rd, his mechanic is not top tier, he even lose pretty badlyto controler zero in 1v1 range. However he has one of the best if not the best awareness and game instinct, that's why he have more inpact in a battle royal with more teams
@@Daivd1111 yup, that's why... i remember seeing him bottom during TDMs and also that 1v1 with Zero was quite sad. But in an actual match, he always seems to know what to do and hit his shots when it matters
Hal just stared playing TDM when he joined DZ no? He almost never played TDM, and was 500-1000 damage less than zero or gen when he started, but he's getting better now. Gen's usually got insane amount of damage but seems to have really bad days in scrims. There are several times I clearly remember he just dies so fast.
@@Daivd1111 bro that's not just not true I mean last TDM against TSM he did more than half of the kills : th-cam.com/video/V8JeuP6zw18/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
HAL is regularly among the best fraggers in ALGS and it's not only because of his game instinct.
That was a hella good throw by cat
@ 6:56 bro got headshotted lmao
this scrims will definitely helps dZ teams to win the championship. They all play as ALGS and improving all their loose ends. I loved their passions. I really rooting for Hal
Zero told Hal he wants him to play more aggressive but is pissed off when he is.
yeah but if he's resing, somebody has to keep watch
HAL Is fragging he has to play aggressive and push first but in half of the games gen pushes first he should be anchoring and pushing last
Bro…. Obviously there’s a difference between playing aggressively (smartly) and inting your brains out
Hal has been killing it on dz so far.
what's funny is in just about every clip. Hal has pulled his weight every fight. so even if he threw that last fight, he has pulled his weight while the other 2 threw all of their situations
Verhulst > Gen
Better to go through this now then later
Was this the day after they break the rekord of most points in scrims
Zero is literally LOST in these fights while Hal and Gen are DESTROYING people. Where the fuck is he looking?
Man zero aderol geeking at 4 minutes
Why clickbait is so popular in Esports, I'll never understand.
Damn i thought hal said they are not going to lose any fights
The cracks are forming
Gen has been like the man left out
in all these clips its seems like hals doing everything and zero is doing nothing and complaining
I agree zero sucks running around with his gun out
Hes the MNK igl. Its the two rollers job to do the majority of the carrying in fights.
Not true. Hal is supposed to do the most damage as he's on blood. But he still get outdamaged by Zero often.
Literally every damage recap Zer0 had the highest damage lol
Zero is mnk and igl. His job is the most important one. It's also the role that hal gave up on.
Oh boy here we go bois
You cut it too early. Zero rejoined voice a few mins after and they had a bit more of a banter match. was funny
The gold is, zero run right back at the moment when Hal says he only throws 2 out of 12 games😂😂😂
Give Gen some time to relearn Cat and anchor again. Everybody forgets aswell, when Sikezz joined DZ was bad for a month. They’ll be back soon winning agian
Do you guys think DarkZero would be better with Koyful or Verhulst instead of Genburten ?
Bro dark zero doing so well with gen all the time no need to change yall see two bad scrims and think gen is messing up just because hal join yall back seating gen
There is something just so unnatural about Hal and zero competing together. Gen forced into the anchor role and background of the team, and no way Hal and zero don’t butt heads if they start having bad matches when the season starts.
gen with the upperdecky
Why is the audio so cooked on these clips?
Gen threw, not Hal, but also it was a tough situation from the third party
Gen might be the new Zach 😭
half Gen's shots are missing LOL
Too have 3 super aggressive dudes and Hal not IGL it's going to be interesting. Hal wa wanting to play guns ho wont work and they will realize it. They are in some bad positions. And Verhulst and Reps continue to have great success. I know its early but what made Gen so great was that he was mostly the gunner without having to think. And now hes gotta think a little bit with another new team.
Hal had the same thing on TSM at lan where he would either trade knocks or knock one and crack another and then die. My question is, is it worth the damage if he is dying for it too? Especially if his teammates are not in positions where they have an angle on the opponents? that 100 damage to crack is not permanent, and its not as if your teammates can immediately capitalise.
Aside from that Hal fans need to watch the whole video instead of immediately deflecting. Even Hal knew he was trolling today
Your job as fragger is do as much damage as you can do. If your team pushes a fight, your team is pushing that fight until your Igl calls you off otherwise. Zero is not doing that in these fights and if I’m Hal, I’m in full send mode because I’m thinking my team has my back. I make this mistake in solo queue ranked all the time. I’ll knock one and and hit another for 150 damage. On paper you would think “oh my team should be close behind me and I’ve killed basically a team and half on my own, we got this in the bag” as you’re comming the entire time, just to figure out that your team is casually sitting on doors in the next building over not even phased by the situation and failed to com (because why use mics in ranked play) that they disengaged from the fight. I love when I push teammates to cover them while they heal and I get a knock and as I’m fighting the second dude thinking to myself “wel my teammate is popping a battery rn and I knocked the first dude, by the time I do all this damage to the second dude, my teammates should be healthy and clean up my knock for free”…. Wrong. My teammate immediately panicks and runs away
it was just this block of scrims, the previous 3-5 days they rolled every single team
That nade sat there for a while... Hal is swinging everyone like a maniac alone😂😂😂... well Gen doesn't care about nades and can't clip people somehow😂😂😂 Zero is always left in smoke or zone not seeing anything😂😂😂 he either needs to catch up or they need to play slow
Whys zero so close to his monitor
u can hit anything on mnk when ur eyes balls are 5 inches away from ur monitor. Like csgo pros
Definitely seems like a high level MnK thing lol
so he can see his enemys better its realy that simple
It's what happen when you get old
I don't watch comp but the issue is obvious Zero being the keys player has to play anchor and let gen and hal walk up keys on front line just don't work in close quarter fights which comp is mainly and hal and gen need smarten up and play together on the fragger role.
Edit: hal had bad game sense in the last fight and hard swong a solo but gen was the real sell with the no sight prowl playing in a smoke
Hal has said in stream that zero plays way more aggressively than him, and for those games they win, zero was doing well as an entry fragger trying to kill or crack an enemy so that Hal and gen makes more damage. But these games he wasn't that good at creating great opportunities, and gen misses so many shots, and Hal doesn't comm that well telling when he scans. Three of them all not at their best.
Its good to see hall on the other hand of the stick for once, i know he did good and gen was the one who threw. But deng, that was a refreshing scene
why is everyone tripping and recency bias, it was one day, they finished first in 4 straight blocks before this and rolled every team they fought
Dude zero fumbles so hard in these clips i feel bad
Gens still a beast.. how many times has he clutched up for em.. We all have our bad days..This generations way to toxic..
Gen is throwing and zero is never pushing with the team, zero is the last to the fight each time.
Why is the spitfire heavy ammo? I played today and did t see this
timestamp?
Hal shouldn't have said that they can't lose fights at all. That was arrogant.
they rarely lose a straight 3v3, it is 3rd parties, rotating and getting angled out by the whole lobby
A whole comment section of Hal meat riders is crazy
Watching this just shows how much Apex players have to be on the same page play.
This will be a scary team when they learn each others tendencies, but overall I think we are overestimating “superteams” in Apex.
Seriously how much better can DZ perform on LAN?
Gen's aim looking like mine. dafuq was he doing all these games
bro they literally just need to play more together and watch around them but they are a new team its gonna happen
Gen is the boy but that spray at 1:11 was cringe af
Raven will be the new IGL 😂
They got 13th in both blocks that day.
Tsm is getting better
Hal did more than his part , Gen did like 40 dmg lol.
Zero + gen threw the first 5 games, it looked like zero was baiting gen and hal to fight first. The last game however hal roller brained for sure.
Hal thinking .... " did I leave for this" 😂
this team needs to calm the fuck down with how aggressive they are in literally every fucken fight lmao, also i get why zero wants to also play with hal and want gen to anchor but like its kinda not working out here
Besides the last clip Hal was doing solid. Gen is missing way to much shots his positioning is off as well giving way to much free shots.
its actually gen not doing much in fights
Hal is doing his part more than enough. Doesn't matter what anyone say.
Oh without a doubt, I think once these guys lock it in for algs... I don't see them losing.
DSG killed / third-ed DZ at tree, Lrod and overlook on these games. maybe this is why DZ is struggling, when another good edge team is on the lobby their window to fight becomes smaller as potential third party from DSG is coming fast especially timmy on Path
At least Hal was taken 1 with him the title should be Gen doing nothing makes zero leave the call
oh no hal is poor,can't watch somebody just yelling at you dawg and I miss the OG you, please back,man
Hal’s tears must get on an all terrain vehicle to come down those cheeks from the thumbnail
Problems in heaven
thats what happens when 2 alphas team up together
verhulst instead og gen and this is the best team
Hal on the chase is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
Big E > Hal
Hal invented evan. If TSM didn't take evan back then, he would be a nobody.
bro, evan's name is big e because hal called him that on stream
@@TheZerro95I mean we just don’t know that. You’re assuming that. He was on his way to becoming of the best controller players, regardless of Hal or not, that was his plan when he was in the firing range an hour a day hitting dummies to get insane aim. So yeah maybe he wouldn’t have been on TSM, but I’m pretty sure he was destined to be a pro player. Could be wrong tho
@@Thatdudewiththedogs he'd be a pro player no doubt about that. But he wouldn't get the same fame if it weren't for joining Hal.
@@TheZerro95 yeah you’re probably right about that
Guys its scrims they will be fine...
Havoc is taking the skill out of the game honestly Hal may need to go back to MNK
Hal is insane!!!!
Gen threw so hard
Gens actually a fraud. I heard verhulst comparisons
Tbh its only Gen thats throwing
no synergy
“Throwburton”
Chat y'all remember when gen went off the map in scrims lol genburger😂