@@edhdeckbuilding It feels more personal, almost like I'm chatting to a friend or something. Without seeing, it feels very detached to me, just plain cold information.
I know a lot of people don't like UB, but i think it's great for the community. A lot of friends and family members got into magic because of various UB sets like Fallout, LotR, and Warhammer. So im all for it! Screeching Scorchbeast is incredible in my Kroxa and Kunoros deck. Great video, as always. 🤙
That's weird. Imagine quitting a game that you love because it's... Branching out? The beauty of a paper game is that you can just pretend they don't exist and play it how you want.@@santhanamkumar862
@@santhanamkumar862 UB has been very successful for WoTC. It isn't going away but it will get worse. I think people are forgetting a group of people. The players that don't care about lore, flavor..etc. They just want good and interesting cards.
Dude, your opinion sucks and nothing about pub-stomping is cool. UB is in fact not MTG. It's a different IP brought on by a short-sighted cash grab. One more thing, none of those alleged "new players" will be staying w/the game for very long, because why would they if they came into it for a specific IP. Though I'm sure you dont care as long as you can funnel those fleeting views to your channel right. Yeah, _you're not unbiased or anything._ Either way, your opinion and UB are both trash.
Bigger on the Inside goes infinite with Staff of Domination, with hilarious results. You tap it for 2, untap for 1, and each time you do it, you add another cascade trigger to the next spell.
I have both of them in multiple copies for my 60 cards dumb combos decks, and ... I've NEVER realised that! I LOVE IT ! ^^ thank you for sharing your **explosive** wisdom :D
Maro (Mark Rosewater) tells players who may leave MTG: "Don’t get rid of your cards. There is nothing wrong with taking a break, but the majority of players later return, and their greatest regret is having gotten rid of their cards." Personally I have come to terms with the deluge of product. Now that I can't keep up with it all I get those moments at tables where I get excited seeing cards I've never seen again. Reminds me of when I discovered the game in the 90s and started learning the game.
Thanks for making me aware of Screeching Scorchbeast. It's perfect for my Scarab God mill deck and I didn't see it since I didn't overly care about the Fallout set.
I've said it before and I'll say it any time UB gets brought up in conversation. Ikoria did it best. If you prefer pure magic, play the magic cards. But if you want, there are skins for those same cards in another IP.
Sad part is, it is about to get even more cringe.. Marvel X Magic is going to be coming out sometime soon & I am dreading it. I was okay with Warhammer, Lord of the Rings, Doctor Who & Fallout & even own a Hansk, Slayer Zealot deck (Daryl from TWD but Universe's Within because I don't like the I.P or the show but do love Innistrad) I just don't want to see Spider-Man or the Hulk as commanders.
The way I see it, and I've said this in the Discord, The Game of Magic will exist as long as the physical cards themselves exist, and human beings have literacy. And as such, these Cards Mark the Time. And play will never cease. So 100, 1000 years from now, these cards, if they're still in existence will be the mark of a time before.
I seem to have a complicated relationship with UB... The more magic adjacent ones like DnD and LotR were fine but I really didn't initially feel like Dr Who, Warhammer or Fallout should be done and my initial feelings were dislike and disinterest. But then I found myself strangely drawn to them due to their unique aesthetic. I don't care at all about the IP they're based on but the cards have a certain appeal to me and I find myself scooping some up whenever I'm shopping. It's weird lol. And I do admire the way they've managed to meld the themes into the Magic mechanics, it's very well designed and I respect that. Plus I've been enjoying having sci-fi versions of cards for my Urza robots deck. A lot have come from the UB sets. 🙂
Adipose Offering seems like it works best as a bomb that follows up cards that have affinity/convoke/other cost reducers. Drop a Pride of Hull Clade for cheap, then blow it up into 15 2/2s.
Excellent video. Shout outs to the cards "Elven Farsight" from Tales of Middle Earth, and "Traverse Eternity" from Doctor Who, both really good Sorceries in Commander that I can see getting reprints in future sets.
A good place for Poxwalkers is Extus with adventure cards. When you cast the regular side of the card from exile you get it back for another sacrifice effect.
I absolutely LOVE Great Intelligence's Plan in my budget Jeleva "big spells from exile" deck. It always feels good, worth 6 mana...whether you cheat it out or pay
I just dislike the dilution of the mtg IP. I like most of the IPs that were made into universe beyond sets and still dont like to have them in the game if they dont fit. Dr Who is the main one here but warhammer just HAD to use their "protected" races for creature types so reprints in universe are close to impossible.
I don't mind most of these UB cards, hunters bow, or Helios one for example just look like magic cards, what I don't like about UB is the random stuff like Battle Bus from fortnite, Optimus Prime, Spiderman, you can't get try to suspend your disbelief with those cards, I wish they would come out with a universes within card so I can play with the card without seeing one of the Doctor Who doctors
I get it not being into UB, but refusing to play against it is honestly big baby behaviour. There are also regular magic cards I don't like the style of, but I don't refuse to play against them.
Honestly, a lot of magic cards are just generic fantasy creatures, that don't hold any special unique MTG affinity. I never felt that the magic IP was that strong anyway. Of course I only played 2012 to 2015 and picked it back up when Lord of the rings came out. So I didn't have a strong connection to any of the MTG IP itself, other than hating Jace for milling me all the time 😅
I don't really mind UB, though I don't really like seeing actual people in the cards, which was my main gripe with the walking dead thing originally, but I have since become desensitized, so I don't mind it anymore. I'm not a fan of Dr Who, but I really like Ensnared by the Mara, it's a fantastic card and I don't think I have enough of those.
From what iv seen alot of the universis beyond sets are needed and wanted reprints just with themed arts, fair enough there are some sets that have unique mechanics etc and theamed cards but that's what makes those IP unique.
I think that with the massive variety in aesthetic the "normal" cards have, there is really no valid argument against Universes Beyond cards. We get why l.o.t.r. got a pass but many of the mech like vehicles in neon dynasty don't fit with middle Earth or phyrexia etc. plus the magic universe is already a Multiverse. Warhammer 40 K lore already has dimensional travel and Tardis station time travel. If someone wants to dig their heels that's their business but I think it makes the game more fun tbh
I generally feel the same way. Trust me, I like Magic's original lore (if in a bit of a love-hate way), and I love the aesthetics of truly original planes like Ravnica or Phyrexia. That said, I care much more about the game as a game - if a card is interesting and fun to use, I don't care what IP it's attached to, I'll play it.
Can´t think when you would want to do that, but "Bigger on the inside" lets you give the mana to another player and gives cascade to their next spell...
really strong cards that would be great in my decks being stuck in UB where i strongly disapprove of the artistic and business choices being made is pretty much the entire problem, actually.
Forgotten Realms was awful in particular because it was so gimmicky. They could have just made a set based on the setting on a flavor level, instead they tried to hack in D&D *mechanics* and it just struck me as really cheesy, forced, and awkward. The "Dungeon" mechanic was as confusing as it was annoying. They then followed that up with Lord of the Rings, an IP that does not need even more shameless pandering merchandise (In fact it's reasonable to assume that its creator would find the notion patently repulsive) and Universes Beyond lost me forever. At this point, my aversion has nothing at all to do with the mechanics themselves or how the sets are implemented and everything to do with those two sets defining the entire concept for me- A combination of shameless pandering and hacky gimmicks. Give me ten thousand cowboy cacti and cute fluffy furries over that cynical garbage any day.
Same here. Everything should be Universe Within first. If they wanna print a UB set there should already be a normal version or they plan on printing one
I have no issue with it as long as it's thematic to mtg. Like dnd and lotr fits perfectly as a magic product imo, whereas starwars, as fun as it can be, would not.
UB gave feeling more toward legal version silver boarder card for me. If people dont like Silver boarder card in their game, I can see why people dont like UB. And yeah even in universe MTG set nowaday feel more and more like Un-Set lol
Was interested in watching for a minute, but honestly I just can’t care about universes beyond. I see it as a fundamental mistake in terms of design direction, and I see how it’s affecting mainline sets. Will Bloomburrow be the last high-fantasy magic set? Duskmourn could have been so cool but the 80s aesthetic and tropes are killing it for me. Will probably avoid buying it just like I do with UB now.
Idk that Bloomburrow could fit any definition of “high fantasy.” And like… do people also not like the Weatherlight Saga? That’s basically The Avengers.
YOu're right Demo, Magic has got quite corny lately and UB is part of it but definitely not the whole problem. UB not withstanding we have the aforementioned killer donut and friends, everyone is a detective in Ravnica: the Investigation, everyone is a cowboy, everyone is an animal, and everyone is a ghost hunter trapped in a stranger things haunted house! Oh but wait! Then next year we have "death race" and "space opera" sandwiched between returning to Innistrad in a remaster and to Tarkir and Lorwyn, actual original awesome beloved planes with good storylines. Every set doesn't have to have Un set vibes.
@@SarumanTheStupidI was simply stating a fact. Here's another one: Universes Beyond will not stop, as there's always another IP. Perhaps consider what kind of game that would create and if you believe it would still resemble MTG at that point. Anyway, if that sounds good to you (or whoever reads this), then by all means, enjoy making Hasbro money with their greedy cashgrabs, as they slowly butcher the goose that laid the golden eggs.
Whether people agree with it or not they need to put on their big boy pants and get over it. Its bringing people into the game, its NOT going away, and throwing a tantrum saying, "I'm not playing in a game where people are using UB cards!" Only makes you look like a baby. Im not a fan of the UB stuff myself, yeah it feels weird seeing it in a game because it doesn't really fit the feel of MtG... but you know what? People are having fun and you dont have the right to take that away from them because you disagree with the flavour of their fun. Grow up
Hey, guess what Refusing to play with you isn't taking your fun away except insofar as you're demanding that they supply your fun, which you also have zero right to do. I don't even refuse to play against UB (Despite hating UB myself) but combining a patently hypocritical argument with a petulant demand to "grow up" is peak irony.
@Merlewhitefire Nothing in my comment was hypocritical. I never said I refuse to play against them, just said the flavor feels off and takes some of the immersion out. But planeswalkers could end up anywhere so you could shoe horn the lore if you had to. The refusing to play wasn't what I was referring to about taking away fun. It's people shitting on what people enjoy and saying it... doesn't.... belong. Wait... I see it now... shit! Ok, I need to sit and think for a bit. I guess I owe you a thanks for pointing out my inconsistencies.
I understand that people want more medieval fantasy sets rather than things like UB or thunder junction, but I think this is a good thing to attract new players, kids these days are not really big into medieval fantasy and personally I think UB works great as a playground for new card designs or for new additions to some mechanics that are not really for standard or modern, I personally got back into magic because of the doctor who decks and the amount of interesting mechanics that each commander has
While I'm not a huge fan of certain IPs being used in the Universes beyond sets or as sub themes in sets (Jurassic Park, Transformers, Doctor Who, Fallout and to a much lesser degree Warhammer 40k) because they don't "fit" thematically, that MY problem to deal with or get past, and not those that enjoy them. While I may hate seeing a Megatron suddenly plop down on the table amongst other creatures, I also hate bunnies in cowboy hates, or criminal investigators with magnifying glasses, or a Tardis. It's all diluting my sense of immersion with the "world" that MTG has built to this point, but it's not my place to stop others from doing so. I also hate Craterhoof Behemoth because it typically ends games with no real strategy required, or those huge Eldrazi with annihilator printed on them, but thematically they "fit," so if I hate those cards but am okay with them being played, why would I insist the UB cards not be allowed? All in all, MTG is for people to have fun. While inclusion of a plethora of those cards might detract from my immersion, why should I let it detract from my fun? For me, it's more about the deck creativity, the uniqueness of how a game plays out, and the cameraderie shared playing a phenomenal game. I DO wish power creep would slow the heck down though, and the overwhelming amount of new product would also slow down, because I think those are diluting or wrecking the game so much more than UB themes being included. Also, I really do wish that WotC would include more under utilized mechanics into sets, even if it's only one or two cards per set occasionally. Foretell was released in Kaldheim and Commander Legends, Baldur's Gate, but has only seen any additional foretell cards in......sigh, UB, Doctor Who, which is very disappointing. 1 or 2 cards per set since CLB or KLD would have equalled dozens of foretell cards added to the game since then, and this mechanic really needs revisiting. Of the 53 "foretell cards," I think there are only 5 green and only slightly more red or black ones. I'm lucky in that they made white and blue more numerous since they did a spirit precon with Ranar, the Ever Watchful at the helm, but come on WotC, my Ranar deck has become stagnant on changes with the release of so few spirit cards or especially foretell cards. Hook me up with some more please. Lol. maybe if there was some sort of UB set that was based on some sort of game with omens, or visions of the future, then WotC might revisit this.
The problem I have is that I can't be happily immersed if the flavor doesn't suit my taste. In many cases this is not the same game I have played since 96
Of course, even if I hate the set overall, it will always have a few cards that I actually like. In my case, that makes me sad. For instance, I think The Wise Mothman could be a spectacular commander but, being from Fallout, I don't see me building a deck about it any time soon. I mean, I'd probably end up building it sooner or later but, had it come from a regular set, it would have been already done. Also, one of the problems I have with Universes Beyond is that it "steels" quality for regular sets (WotC only has so many resources per year to put into sets). In fact, there are many regular sets that I hate more than Universes Beyond (Ikoria, Thunder Junction, Dominaria United etc.)
the fallout UB is quite possibly the worst execution of a UB ive ever seen. every single precon did not follow the flavor of the commanders that they came with. like if you picked up the Caesars legion precon, it had brotherhood of steel cards with cards from the New california republic fighting alongside cards from the east coast from 30 years prior in the fallout universe. IN A PRECON. why couldnt they make them follow the theme of the deck. itd be like having a sliver deck with splashed in old phyrexia cards with edgar markov in the command zone.
Honestly, I'd like it if they released another Warhammer set, just with altered reprints of existing cards, to add more options for the decks to feel thematical.
It’s nitpicky, but I don’t think Scholar of New Horizons works as well with Regeneration Restored. I’m pretty sure that the life gain a scry trigger would resolve BEFORE you search for the land.
@@rraimundobruno No, removing the counter is part of the activation cost. So you would put the search ability on the stack, but then the Regeneration Restored trigger would happen, so you would gain 1 life and scry before searching.
The flavor of the Doctor Who cards were so insanely good. The Adipose card in particular; if you don't know, they're creatures that are formed from the fat of a host body, then when they are ready to 'Emerge', the host body turns into multiple of these creatures. Absolute flavor win haha!
It's irrelevant whether you "care about rad counters", if you put Screeching Scorchbeast in your deck you'll be forcing your opponents to care about rad counters. You should at least have a Rule 0 discussion to inform them that you're injecting Fallout rules into the game.
Are you for real? You actually expect people to have a pregame discussion that they are running a card that does Rad counters? Do I have to disclose that I'm running cards with Monarch? Because then that's something my opponent didn't bring into their own deck.
@@craig1287 Monarch was introduced in 2016 and has been used in multiple Commander sets since. Rad counters are a Fallout-specific mechanic that imposes unexpected bookeeping chores on your opponents. It's common courtesy to give your opponents a heads-up on your deck's offensive angles instead of ambushing them with a potentially unwelcome surprize.
@@QuicksilverSG "unexpected bookkeeping chores" I still think you're trolling or memeing. So are cards like Mesmeric Orb and Mind Crank more unexpected bookkeeping chores that I have to alert my opponents to in a pregame talk? You make it sound like rad counters are some massive shift in gameplay that will take someone so many minutes to grasp the concept and also carry out the game actions. It's like any other thing in the game that adds an "on each players upkeep...".
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Hey Demo!! Really nice to see you back!! It is much better to watch your videos actually seeing you, not only hearing your voice
i've actually gotten mixed reviews on that issue
@@edhdeckbuildingWhy don't people want to see you? I think it's fine, most channels do show the person talking.
@@edhdeckbuilding It feels more personal, almost like I'm chatting to a friend or something. Without seeing, it feels very detached to me, just plain cold information.
Keep up the good work, this is my fave MTG channel on YT
I know a lot of people don't like UB, but i think it's great for the community. A lot of friends and family members got into magic because of various UB sets like Fallout, LotR, and Warhammer. So im all for it!
Screeching Scorchbeast is incredible in my Kroxa and Kunoros deck. Great video, as always. 🤙
Keep in mind it also caused some people to leave as well...I know quite a few
That's weird. Imagine quitting a game that you love because it's... Branching out? The beauty of a paper game is that you can just pretend they don't exist and play it how you want.@@santhanamkumar862
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UB has been very successful for WoTC. It isn't going away but it will get worse. I think people are forgetting a group of people. The players that don't care about lore, flavor..etc. They just want good and interesting cards.
@@sacredbeastzenon I still would want universes within reprints to keep prices reasonable...why is that too much to ask?
Dude, your opinion sucks and nothing about pub-stomping is cool.
UB is in fact not MTG. It's a different IP brought on by a short-sighted cash grab.
One more thing, none of those alleged "new players" will be staying w/the game for very long, because why would they if they came into it for a specific IP.
Though I'm sure you dont care as long as you can funnel those fleeting views to your channel right. Yeah, _you're not unbiased or anything._
Either way, your opinion and UB are both trash.
Bigger on the Inside goes infinite with Staff of Domination, with hilarious results. You tap it for 2, untap for 1, and each time you do it, you add another cascade trigger to the next spell.
Just make sure you cast your top end and you get your entire deck out minus lands.
I have both of them in multiple copies for my 60 cards dumb combos decks, and ... I've NEVER realised that! I LOVE IT ! ^^ thank you for sharing your **explosive** wisdom :D
Maro (Mark Rosewater) tells players who may leave MTG: "Don’t get rid of your cards. There is nothing wrong with taking a break, but the majority of players later return, and their greatest regret is having gotten rid of their cards."
Personally I have come to terms with the deluge of product. Now that I can't keep up with it all I get those moments at tables where I get excited seeing cards I've never seen again. Reminds me of when I discovered the game in the 90s and started learning the game.
Thanks for making me aware of Screeching Scorchbeast. It's perfect for my Scarab God mill deck and I didn't see it since I didn't overly care about the Fallout set.
I've said it before and I'll say it any time UB gets brought up in conversation.
Ikoria did it best. If you prefer pure magic, play the magic cards. But if you want, there are skins for those same cards in another IP.
Ikoria did it best*
*Except for the card that only existed as a Godzilla promo and the non-IP "Canon" card doesn't even get a physical printing.
@@Merlewhitefire One day wotc will perfect it. Not today, or tomorrow, or four years from now, but one day...
Sigurd jarl of ravensthorpe is a super cool Saga commander even if he is from Universes Beyond.
I don’t disagree that a lot of universes within is just as cringey as universes beyond these days
Sad part is, it is about to get even more cringe.. Marvel X Magic is going to be coming out sometime soon & I am dreading it. I was okay with Warhammer, Lord of the Rings, Doctor Who & Fallout & even own a Hansk, Slayer Zealot deck (Daryl from TWD but Universe's Within because I don't like the I.P or the show but do love Innistrad) I just don't want to see Spider-Man or the Hulk as commanders.
You're right. Magic shouldn't have any new ideas. It should just be boring fantasy tropes and nothing else.
@@BlondeSancho-qb9hz ….. you have never been the smart guy in the room have you. Think I found the fabled “modern audience” we hear so much about smh
Any money bet they going to do Star Wars after
@@andrewfornes5320 I still for the life of me, don't understand why they went with 40K instead of Age of Sigmar or even Old world.
The way I see it, and I've said this in the Discord, The Game of Magic will exist as long as the physical cards themselves exist, and human beings have literacy. And as such, these Cards Mark the Time. And play will never cease.
So 100, 1000 years from now, these cards, if they're still in existence will be the mark of a time before.
man i totally forgot or didn't know most of these cards even came out. love these look back videos!
I seem to have a complicated relationship with UB... The more magic adjacent ones like DnD and LotR were fine but I really didn't initially feel like Dr Who, Warhammer or Fallout should be done and my initial feelings were dislike and disinterest. But then I found myself strangely drawn to them due to their unique aesthetic. I don't care at all about the IP they're based on but the cards have a certain appeal to me and I find myself scooping some up whenever I'm shopping. It's weird lol. And I do admire the way they've managed to meld the themes into the Magic mechanics, it's very well designed and I respect that. Plus I've been enjoying having sci-fi versions of cards for my Urza robots deck. A lot have come from the UB sets. 🙂
Adipose Offering seems like it works best as a bomb that follows up cards that have affinity/convoke/other cost reducers. Drop a Pride of Hull Clade for cheap, then blow it up into 15 2/2s.
Excellent video. Shout outs to the cards "Elven Farsight" from Tales of Middle Earth, and "Traverse Eternity" from Doctor Who, both really good Sorceries in Commander that I can see getting reprints in future sets.
A good place for Poxwalkers is Extus with adventure cards. When you cast the regular side of the card from exile you get it back for another sacrifice effect.
Taking several of these suggestions, thanks for pointing them out!
I absolutely LOVE Great Intelligence's Plan in my budget Jeleva "big spells from exile" deck. It always feels good, worth 6 mana...whether you cheat it out or pay
As long the art and the lore are similar to mtg, I'm ok with UB. Stuff like marvel will be I pass even if I'm a huge marvel fan.
I just dislike the dilution of the mtg IP. I like most of the IPs that were made into universe beyond sets and still dont like to have them in the game if they dont fit.
Dr Who is the main one here but warhammer just HAD to use their "protected" races for creature types so reprints in universe are close to impossible.
15:15 Sanctuary Warden wants to remove counters too :D and she also draws you cards :D
I don't mind most of these UB cards, hunters bow, or Helios one for example just look like magic cards, what I don't like about UB is the random stuff like Battle Bus from fortnite, Optimus Prime, Spiderman, you can't get try to suspend your disbelief with those cards, I wish they would come out with a universes within card so I can play with the card without seeing one of the Doctor Who doctors
Universes beyond got me into MTG so i like it. Im hype for final fantasy and marvel
Poxwalkers is a straight bomb
I get it not being into UB, but refusing to play against it is honestly big baby behaviour. There are also regular magic cards I don't like the style of, but I don't refuse to play against them.
Honestly, a lot of magic cards are just generic fantasy creatures, that don't hold any special unique MTG affinity. I never felt that the magic IP was that strong anyway. Of course I only played 2012 to 2015 and picked it back up when Lord of the rings came out. So I didn't have a strong connection to any of the MTG IP itself, other than hating Jace for milling me all the time 😅
Poxwalkers triggers on you cast your commander…
I don't really mind UB, though I don't really like seeing actual people in the cards, which was my main gripe with the walking dead thing originally, but I have since become desensitized, so I don't mind it anymore.
I'm not a fan of Dr Who, but I really like Ensnared by the Mara, it's a fantastic card and I don't think I have enough of those.
The Golden Throne + any "you lose the game" effect cards lice Pact of negation. Hmm...
Best part of UB is designers are free to give us all the weirdest designs
From what iv seen alot of the universis beyond sets are needed and wanted reprints just with themed arts, fair enough there are some sets that have unique mechanics etc and theamed cards but that's what makes those IP unique.
I think that with the massive variety in aesthetic the "normal" cards have, there is really no valid argument against Universes Beyond cards. We get why l.o.t.r. got a pass but many of the mech like vehicles in neon dynasty don't fit with middle Earth or phyrexia etc. plus the magic universe is already a Multiverse. Warhammer 40 K lore already has dimensional travel and Tardis station time travel. If someone wants to dig their heels that's their business but I think it makes the game more fun tbh
I generally feel the same way. Trust me, I like Magic's original lore (if in a bit of a love-hate way), and I love the aesthetics of truly original planes like Ravnica or Phyrexia. That said, I care much more about the game as a game - if a card is interesting and fun to use, I don't care what IP it's attached to, I'll play it.
Can´t think when you would want to do that, but "Bigger on the inside" lets you give the mana to another player and gives cascade to their next spell...
really strong cards that would be great in my decks being stuck in UB where i strongly disapprove of the artistic and business choices being made is pretty much the entire problem, actually.
yup i agree and the only way to fix this problem is to print Universe Within versions of all of them which they aren't gonna do
Which artistic/buisness choices exactly do you dislike ?
Hunter’s Bow is ungodly strong for an uncommon.
Forgotten Realms was awful in particular because it was so gimmicky. They could have just made a set based on the setting on a flavor level, instead they tried to hack in D&D *mechanics* and it just struck me as really cheesy, forced, and awkward. The "Dungeon" mechanic was as confusing as it was annoying. They then followed that up with Lord of the Rings, an IP that does not need even more shameless pandering merchandise (In fact it's reasonable to assume that its creator would find the notion patently repulsive) and Universes Beyond lost me forever.
At this point, my aversion has nothing at all to do with the mechanics themselves or how the sets are implemented and everything to do with those two sets defining the entire concept for me- A combination of shameless pandering and hacky gimmicks.
Give me ten thousand cowboy cacti and cute fluffy furries over that cynical garbage any day.
Some budget fuckery. Thanks, Demo!
And what if I hate it? lol
I have no problem playing against it. But I'll never include a UB card in any of my decks.
completely understandable.
@@edhdeckbuilding Nice video though. It's good to see what folks may be running in their decks.
Same here. Everything should be Universe Within first. If they wanna print a UB set there should already be a normal version or they plan on printing one
Unfinity was released on the same day as warhammer because of delays caused by the global supply chain issues in 2021
I have no issue with it as long as it's thematic to mtg. Like dnd and lotr fits perfectly as a magic product imo, whereas starwars, as fun as it can be, would not.
UB gave feeling more toward legal version silver boarder card for me.
If people dont like Silver boarder card in their game, I can see why people dont like UB.
And yeah even in universe MTG set nowaday feel more and more like Un-Set lol
Jacked rabbit is the best card ever printed lmao
They seen to save a lot of the cooler designs for UB. Wonder what they have cooked up with marvel.
No thanks, I hate them for a reason. And it's not gameplay.
Just say you're gay instead of being so long winded
If you dont want to play it, dont, if you dont want to SEE it, that sounds like a you problem.
Poxwalker is legal beside gravecrawler.... just saying. Modern is going big.
Whats with Faldorn getting all the love recently, i feel seen hahaha
Was interested in watching for a minute, but honestly I just can’t care about universes beyond. I see it as a fundamental mistake in terms of design direction, and I see how it’s affecting mainline sets. Will Bloomburrow be the last high-fantasy magic set? Duskmourn could have been so cool but the 80s aesthetic and tropes are killing it for me. Will probably avoid buying it just like I do with UB now.
Idk that Bloomburrow could fit any definition of “high fantasy.” And like… do people also not like the Weatherlight Saga? That’s basically The Avengers.
YOu're right Demo, Magic has got quite corny lately and UB is part of it but definitely not the whole problem. UB not withstanding we have the aforementioned killer donut and friends, everyone is a detective in Ravnica: the Investigation, everyone is a cowboy, everyone is an animal, and everyone is a ghost hunter trapped in a stranger things haunted house! Oh but wait! Then next year we have "death race" and "space opera" sandwiched between returning to Innistrad in a remaster and to Tarkir and Lorwyn, actual original awesome beloved planes with good storylines. Every set doesn't have to have Un set vibes.
No game I have played (as a new 2024 player) has gotten to 12 turns
7:30 this card combos with so many artifacts though 🤌🤌🤌
UB is not MTG
It's a different IP
I bet you're fun in Commander
@@SarumanTheStupidI was simply stating a fact. Here's another one: Universes Beyond will not stop, as there's always another IP.
Perhaps consider what kind of game that would create and if you believe it would still resemble MTG at that point.
Anyway, if that sounds good to you (or whoever reads this), then by all means, enjoy making Hasbro money with their greedy cashgrabs, as they slowly butcher the goose that laid the golden eggs.
Whether people agree with it or not they need to put on their big boy pants and get over it. Its bringing people into the game, its NOT going away, and throwing a tantrum saying, "I'm not playing in a game where people are using UB cards!" Only makes you look like a baby.
Im not a fan of the UB stuff myself, yeah it feels weird seeing it in a game because it doesn't really fit the feel of MtG... but you know what? People are having fun and you dont have the right to take that away from them because you disagree with the flavour of their fun.
Grow up
Hey, guess what
Refusing to play with you isn't taking your fun away except insofar as you're demanding that they supply your fun, which you also have zero right to do.
I don't even refuse to play against UB (Despite hating UB myself) but combining a patently hypocritical argument with a petulant demand to "grow up" is peak irony.
@Merlewhitefire Nothing in my comment was hypocritical. I never said I refuse to play against them, just said the flavor feels off and takes some of the immersion out. But planeswalkers could end up anywhere so you could shoe horn the lore if you had to.
The refusing to play wasn't what I was referring to about taking away fun. It's people shitting on what people enjoy and saying it... doesn't.... belong.
Wait... I see it now... shit!
Ok, I need to sit and think for a bit. I guess I owe you a thanks for pointing out my inconsistencies.
Algo 100
The only Universes Beyond set I universally hate are the Transformers cards. They look stupid, I dont think Id ever run one no matter how good it was.
Yeah design is great, but UB will always be a flavor loss in my opinion.
Also a licensing loss, since these contracts will make some of these reprints in the future practically impossible.
Lotr doesn't count in my mind lol
I understand that people want more medieval fantasy sets rather than things like UB or thunder junction, but I think this is a good thing to attract new players, kids these days are not really big into medieval fantasy and personally I think UB works great as a playground for new card designs or for new additions to some mechanics that are not really for standard or modern, I personally got back into magic because of the doctor who decks and the amount of interesting mechanics that each commander has
While I'm not a huge fan of certain IPs being used in the Universes beyond sets or as sub themes in sets (Jurassic Park, Transformers, Doctor Who, Fallout and to a much lesser degree Warhammer 40k) because they don't "fit" thematically, that MY problem to deal with or get past, and not those that enjoy them. While I may hate seeing a Megatron suddenly plop down on the table amongst other creatures, I also hate bunnies in cowboy hates, or criminal investigators with magnifying glasses, or a Tardis. It's all diluting my sense of immersion with the "world" that MTG has built to this point, but it's not my place to stop others from doing so. I also hate Craterhoof Behemoth because it typically ends games with no real strategy required, or those huge Eldrazi with annihilator printed on them, but thematically they "fit," so if I hate those cards but am okay with them being played, why would I insist the UB cards not be allowed? All in all, MTG is for people to have fun. While inclusion of a plethora of those cards might detract from my immersion, why should I let it detract from my fun? For me, it's more about the deck creativity, the uniqueness of how a game plays out, and the cameraderie shared playing a phenomenal game. I DO wish power creep would slow the heck down though, and the overwhelming amount of new product would also slow down, because I think those are diluting or wrecking the game so much more than UB themes being included.
Also, I really do wish that WotC would include more under utilized mechanics into sets, even if it's only one or two cards per set occasionally. Foretell was released in Kaldheim and Commander Legends, Baldur's Gate, but has only seen any additional foretell cards in......sigh, UB, Doctor Who, which is very disappointing. 1 or 2 cards per set since CLB or KLD would have equalled dozens of foretell cards added to the game since then, and this mechanic really needs revisiting. Of the 53 "foretell cards," I think there are only 5 green and only slightly more red or black ones. I'm lucky in that they made white and blue more numerous since they did a spirit precon with Ranar, the Ever Watchful at the helm, but come on WotC, my Ranar deck has become stagnant on changes with the release of so few spirit cards or especially foretell cards. Hook me up with some more please. Lol. maybe if there was some sort of UB set that was based on some sort of game with omens, or visions of the future, then WotC might revisit this.
The problem I have is that I can't be happily immersed if the flavor doesn't suit my taste. In many cases this is not the same game I have played since 96
Of course, even if I hate the set overall, it will always have a few cards that I actually like.
In my case, that makes me sad.
For instance, I think The Wise Mothman could be a spectacular commander but, being from Fallout, I don't see me building a deck about it any time soon.
I mean, I'd probably end up building it sooner or later but, had it come from a regular set, it would have been already done.
Also, one of the problems I have with Universes Beyond is that it "steels" quality for regular sets (WotC only has so many resources per year to put into sets). In fact, there are many regular sets that I hate more than Universes Beyond (Ikoria, Thunder Junction, Dominaria United etc.)
the fallout UB is quite possibly the worst execution of a UB ive ever seen. every single precon did not follow the flavor of the commanders that they came with. like if you picked up the Caesars legion precon, it had brotherhood of steel cards with cards from the New california republic fighting alongside cards from the east coast from 30 years prior in the fallout universe. IN A PRECON. why couldnt they make them follow the theme of the deck. itd be like having a sliver deck with splashed in old phyrexia cards with edgar markov in the command zone.
The Pandorica from Doctor Who is awesome.
Honestly, I'd like it if they released another Warhammer set, just with altered reprints of existing cards, to add more options for the decks to feel thematical.
UB gives designers so much freedom to come up with new mechanics based on various fictional universes, I appreciate that IMMENSELY
Warhammer cards are highly superior
It’s nitpicky, but I don’t think Scholar of New Horizons works as well with Regeneration Restored. I’m pretty sure that the life gain a scry trigger would resolve BEFORE you search for the land.
Even that its a lot of lands you can potentially get
Shouldn't the counter removal and search happen simultaneously?
@@rraimundobruno No, removing the counter is part of the activation cost. So you would put the search ability on the stack, but then the Regeneration Restored trigger would happen, so you would gain 1 life and scry before searching.
The flavor of the Doctor Who cards were so insanely good. The Adipose card in particular; if you don't know, they're creatures that are formed from the fat of a host body, then when they are ready to 'Emerge', the host body turns into multiple of these creatures. Absolute flavor win haha!
Your opinion encapsulates everything that's wrong with MTG.
It's irrelevant whether you "care about rad counters", if you put Screeching Scorchbeast in your deck you'll be forcing your opponents to care about rad counters. You should at least have a Rule 0 discussion to inform them that you're injecting Fallout rules into the game.
Are you for real? You actually expect people to have a pregame discussion that they are running a card that does Rad counters? Do I have to disclose that I'm running cards with Monarch? Because then that's something my opponent didn't bring into their own deck.
@@craig1287 Monarch was introduced in 2016 and has been used in multiple Commander sets since. Rad counters are a Fallout-specific mechanic that imposes unexpected bookeeping chores on your opponents. It's common courtesy to give your opponents a heads-up on your deck's offensive angles instead of ambushing them with a potentially unwelcome surprize.
@@QuicksilverSG "unexpected bookkeeping chores" I still think you're trolling or memeing. So are cards like Mesmeric Orb and Mind Crank more unexpected bookkeeping chores that I have to alert my opponents to in a pregame talk? You make it sound like rad counters are some massive shift in gameplay that will take someone so many minutes to grasp the concept and also carry out the game actions. It's like any other thing in the game that adds an "on each players upkeep...".