This, right here is the most beautiful thing that happened in this game! Hats down to all the players that helped us to improve in this game, and hats down to you Hutchler for keeping the memories alive!
Simply awesome video. Credit to all teams who have been involved in the quest for the world record. I'm proud to have been a small part of this incredible timeline with LFN and to have made friends with so many remarkable characters and gamers. As always, the boundaries will keep getting pushed and broken. Iron Horse is no exception. That 15 minute barrier will come crashing down at some point.
This is such an amazing showcase of an often overlooked playerbase in the Division 2 . I really hope you get to cover the Dark Hours raid, this was really fun to watch. Loving your channel mate, you're easily in my top 3 content creators for this game. a man to hold a candle to Marko :)
Amazing video! When you say "They got this run" would be amazing to hear the comms of the teams and hear all the excitement and satisfaction of having beat such a monumental record
It was like a superb podcast on the history of iron horse. With around 40 completions of iron horse, i feel still I am in diapers when guys are wearing boxer shorts. Unbelievable saga. Thanks a ton brother for bringing this info out and tons of thanks for those indefatigable souls who made this speed run history possible. Way to go brother way to go
I’ve just started my journey back into the division! I just hit SHD500. Love to see content like this - you’ve got a great explanation cadence and voice. By far one of the best TH-cam recommendations ever for me.
I was once part of a speed run team on another game and I can say that being the top dog comes with who is smarter and mostly who can find glitches to beat the other team. I remember hour after hour doing runs and trying to put together the best team to make the runs. I did it for half a year and i had to give it up. It became a job more than something fun. I was truly burnt out..lol. I think thats why we i did play the Div 2 I never did the raids.. PTSD probably. lol Cool video, I know that in itself was a lot of work to put it all together.
Haha yeah, speedrunning can get very intense and become a huge time commitment. My mantra, and that of those around me is that it's a video game and should always be fun - as you rightly said, at the point where it becomes a chore you should always take a step back :)
Hutchler, are you working for History Channel?, when that channel was cool for history buffs? Your narration and presentation is out of this world…. You hit Mars with this prime shot!
I started watching this video a while back but it didn't quite make sense to me. After completing my first IH raid last week I can fully appreciate the quality of production of this video.
I'm a new sub. The quality of this video could easily be part of the History channel or several decades ago 60 minutes/BBC. I can only imagine how much work you put into it.
I run a tiny clan, and most days it's just my hubby and I, and I've got several members who haven't played in months or years, and we've never had more than 5 people online at a time, so I've never even done the raids. I could have tried matchmaking, but that's only in discovery mode, and I typically avoid playing with people I don't know. Nevertheless, I have recently attempted to matchmake for the raids, but it never seems to start, and everyone gives up. Anyway, I used to do speed runs, on the NES and SNES, then I just didn't have the time anymore, and mostly lost interest after a time, but I remember the effort, focus, and dedication required, and it's even more intensive and complicated today than it was back then, and my (proverbial) hat's off to The Division 2 speedrunners 💜
Wow, very good video, very good job, a lot of nostalgia comes up in me watching this, what good times we had on this raid, have you thought about doing the same kind of documentary on raid 1?
Great video Hutchler!!! Love to see it.. a nice blast from the past. I miss the XNX DOG and CUP pushes for #1. Will need tk get back it eventually. Any DH history coming???
I fell asleep as soon as I heard her voice. Why so much praise for this video? I took 2 poos today and you don’t see me making a step by step TH-cam video about it.
Aha yeah. But following the community vote that was ruled 'invalid' for times within vroom, at least. The Moro Skip was also ultimately responsible for those 1 min times all over the leaderboard atm too, which is sad
As speedrunners we've grown used to it. Hopefully videos like this will help to showcase how active the small division speedrun community actually is behind the scenes, though - which someday may change that! Thanks very much for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed :)
First, a great thank you for this very accurate summary of the history of this speedrun, it plunged me into a moment of very intense nostalgia, and I am very grateful to you for it. So, if you may, here is a little gift, just to remind you to never say never. Here is a footage of one of our firsts sub 19 run with the Fieser skip by HFR team. Hope you'll enjoy it th-cam.com/video/Fd-po6sdti0/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, it's pretty crazy how powerful nostalgia is. Imagine if everyone would've hid all their strats for years... A video like this would've never been possible.
LOL you implying you lost your fame? :D Really enjoyed the battle to sub-16 with you guys, and the accompanying banter - thanks for your contributions :)
the style and delivery was really good anda somewhat interesting topic however theres quite a few ordinary gamers that see some of this as a negative thing which inevitably brings sanctions from the devs ,lack of interest in engaging with the player base or roll backs? nerfs/ bans etc i dont doubt the dedication of those involved but the manner of these completions is a bit contentious in the same way as the summit fl 10 is not universally approved /dissapproved of , im in a high xbox leaderboard placed clan and opinion is certainly divided amongst us lot one thing was glaringly obvious that magic phrase that should forever be the Divison 2's catchphrase "Not Working as Intended " . i think you should send this round to most of the major gaming studios as an advert for your game testing skills then maybe they wouldnt release such broken ,incomplete glitched buggy -assed trash as they currently do .............sorry outbreak of idealism ,who am i kidding fixing things doesn't generate income in their eyes . if its possible to do a fastest "clean run" eg only using mechanics that work as intended id say do it and claim it as the "real " world record and get Massive to wipe these dodgy run times from the leaderboards for them to argue against it would be like a sports personality trying to say using illegal performance enhancing substances is justifiable and no big thing and would just show the devs up as weak as hell on cheating if anything this is a great expose of what many have believed for some time, something fishy was going with the raid or league speed run times but we didnt have the physical evidence one way or another to prove our suspicions until now that is , so grateful to you sir i now dont feel an inferiority complex that i cant complete Manning zoo in under 2 mins!!
Strategies, even if they use unintended mechanics, are a large part of speedrunning. I am a speedrunner myself, and can tell you that the things covered in this vid aren't 'get rich quick' strats - they're much harder to execute than the 'clean run' strats you suggest. For the reasons you've listed, many games split speedruns into different categories to appease a wider audience. Div doesn't currently, but the category you're referring to with 'clean runs' is called glitchless. Runs in an any% (taking advantage of glitches) are no less valid than glitchless, they just fall into different categories. Dependent on the mission you're referring to and the platform you play on, it's possible that the times you've seen are both legitimate and cheated. If they're console times, they're legitimate - there are no cheats available for console. On PC, it gets a bit blurrier - so the best way to find out the legitimate world record is to visit speedrun.com. Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed! :)
@@hutchler thanks for the reply and link , im on xbox so one of the "forgotten people" currently the xbox leaderboard for iron horse shows a top time of 2.43 the top 10 are all sub 10 mins , so given what you explained you have to do to achieve world record times i would consider these times are somewhat suspect. most missions from the leagues or progression leaderboards have times like these . i did see on twitter you had reached out to the Devs maybe an additional item for the shopping list would be to audit the leaderboards and remove these suspect times especially if they cannot be verified by those posting them . the likes of Dod , Dispatch, and yourself are a real counterbalance to the populist div content creators , if the devs ever do another ETF for this title or franchise lets hope you get a seat at the table its a shame theres not many, if any division content creators covering consoles we're not all bad and some of us are even house trained!
There are many different layers to that time, and I can't verify it's legitimacy but I would strongly doubt it, given current WRs. The main thing to know, is that the IH clan leaderboard actually shows DH times, so when they got that time - whether legitimate or not - they did it in DH, not IH
@Hutchler I can see 12 min possibly 10 min but 2min not even on DH you would have to 1 shoting everything and be running with Lady death talent speed for the whole thing I'm gonna call bull until there's proof
@@grgoyal I'm unable to comment on the validity of that specific time, but one thing I would note is that it was posted around the time that there was a famous DPS glitch, and a famous RB trick to make only the 4th boss split count on the leaderboard in-game. Again, this is not an accusation around that specific team, but more so some info
Great information but you got other channels saying you guys are the sole reason we know what we know and that y'all kept the game alive..... Well F that I don't agree and now I don't like anyone who calls themselves a speed runner but that's my opinion and anyone has the right to disagree with me but I know I wouldn't be the only one who would have a similar opinion
Huh? I didn't say that xD I just gave a background of speedrunning IH! You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but generalising just because someone speedruns is a bit meh - nothing about enjoying playing games quickly and competing makes someone a bad person by default. It's like saying you immediately don't like anyone who calls themselves a foodie... As with every community, there are nice & helpful speedrunners, and there are toxic ones. My recommendation would be to cast your judgement on an individual basis, because at the end of the day speedrunners are just that - individuals.
@@hutchler I know bro and I agree 1000% but dod is saying that you speed runners are the only reason division 2 is still alive and only contribute to the community and that everything we do is because of y'all.............. I just don't agree and tbh no one would get my point in any way until I'm actually heard (speaking)
Information in this video was anecdotally collected - ie I have personally speedrun IH since release so saw the events unfold first hand. After putting this video together, I also got 4 core members of the LFN IH team featured and 1 of the OMN team to watch and fact check, to make sure the information was as accurate as can be. If you can provide individual points which you believe are inaccurate, I can review them and respond :)
@@hutchler we have develope Double rockets on Boss 2 , Boss 3 whipping 1st floor , fast traveling between B2to3 skipping, we creat Faraday and one shot snipping boomers on Boss 4,, ETC
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I hope you all enjoy! Let me know if you'd like more videos in this style :)
damn right we want more XD
It has been 10 hours, where is part 2? Slacking.
awesome video, we need more :D
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This is not a TH-cam video, this is a Work of Art.
Hugely impressed by this. Well done.
Thanks Dod, that means a lot!
This, right here is the most beautiful thing that happened in this game! Hats down to all the players that helped us to improve in this game, and hats down to you Hutchler for keeping the memories alive!
Simply awesome video. Credit to all teams who have been involved in the quest for the world record. I'm proud to have been a small part of this incredible timeline with LFN and to have made friends with so many remarkable characters and gamers.
As always, the boundaries will keep getting pushed and broken. Iron Horse is no exception. That 15 minute barrier will come crashing down at some point.
This is such an amazing showcase of an often overlooked playerbase in the Division 2 . I really hope you get to cover the Dark Hours raid, this was really fun to watch. Loving your channel mate, you're easily in my top 3 content creators for this game. a man to hold a candle to Marko :)
Amazing video! When you say "They got this run" would be amazing to hear the comms of the teams and hear all the excitement and satisfaction of having beat such a monumental record
A masterpiece, a real good watch. thank you
It was like a superb podcast on the history of iron horse. With around 40 completions of iron horse, i feel still I am in diapers when guys are wearing boxer shorts. Unbelievable saga. Thanks a ton brother for bringing this info out and tons of thanks for those indefatigable souls who made this speed run history possible. Way to go brother way to go
Ayy, thank you for the kind words!!!
Very impressive. I thoroughly enjoyed this bit of history on the IH speed runs. Exceptional compilation of info and clips. Well done!!
I’ve just started my journey back into the division! I just hit SHD500. Love to see content like this - you’ve got a great explanation cadence and voice.
By far one of the best TH-cam recommendations ever for me.
Don’t care much for speed runs or raids but the way you presented this video is brilliant. Well done!
Thanks very much :)
The real og Speedrunners!! Thx for sharing ur knowledge with all the other speedrunners.
This brought back many memories. GG, very nice video/editing and a huge ty to LFN and OMN for paving the way!
Thank you bro - and as mentioned at the end of the video, thanks for all of your contributions on the console side!
This is the best Div 2 video I have ever seen. Awesome job on this.
Wow, that's high praise. Thanks very much, and I'm glad you enjoyed!
That was a work of art good sir! You have skills outside of speed running as well! Very nice video!
Really cool to see all the progress time after time, imagine a third raid with all the returning teams trying to find new mechanics….I can dream
Excellent analysis of the raid mechanics. Brilliant video.
I was once part of a speed run team on another game and I can say that being the top dog comes with who is smarter and mostly who can find glitches to beat the other team. I remember hour after hour doing runs and trying to put together the best team to make the runs. I did it for half a year and i had to give it up. It became a job more than something fun. I was truly burnt out..lol. I think thats why we i did play the Div 2 I never did the raids.. PTSD probably. lol Cool video, I know that in itself was a lot of work to put it all together.
Haha yeah, speedrunning can get very intense and become a huge time commitment. My mantra, and that of those around me is that it's a video game and should always be fun - as you rightly said, at the point where it becomes a chore you should always take a step back :)
Great video. Totally different to anything out there. Very informative and engrossing
Hutchler, are you working for History Channel?, when that channel was cool for history buffs? Your narration and presentation is out of this world…. You hit Mars with this prime shot!
I really enjoyed this mate, it makes me go in to speed running more often. Great video mate
I started watching this video a while back but it didn't quite make sense to me.
After completing my first IH raid last week I can fully appreciate the quality of production of this video.
Awesome video! Very well done and incredibly accurate for how far back some of these strats and clips are.
Thanks AJ, and thanks for all you've done for the community
Awesome video, incredible. As a day 1 player from division 1 I thoroughly enjoyed that.
I'm a new sub. The quality of this video could easily be part of the History channel or several decades ago 60 minutes/BBC. I can only imagine how much work you put into it.
Awesome! this is a piece of work not just any video of Division 2 video!
wow! thanks for the history lesson! def would love to see more vids like this! we need more love for this amazing franchise
Thank you - totally agree!!
I run a tiny clan, and most days it's just my hubby and I, and I've got several members who haven't played in months or years, and we've never had more than 5 people online at a time, so I've never even done the raids. I could have tried matchmaking, but that's only in discovery mode, and I typically avoid playing with people I don't know. Nevertheless, I have recently attempted to matchmake for the raids, but it never seems to start, and everyone gives up.
Anyway, I used to do speed runs, on the NES and SNES, then I just didn't have the time anymore, and mostly lost interest after a time, but I remember the effort, focus, and dedication required, and it's even more intensive and complicated today than it was back then, and my (proverbial) hat's off to The Division 2 speedrunners 💜
Hey, size doesn't matter! :D
What platform do you play on?
@@hutchler I play on a PS5.
Wow, very good video, very good job, a lot of nostalgia comes up in me watching this, what good times we had on this raid, have you thought about doing the same kind of documentary on raid 1?
Congratulation on the amount of work you've put on this, awesome content!
That was like watching a WWII documentary , forking love it 🤙
This was so enjoyable to watch from start to end, Top job
Hutchler....I know him!
Solid work and great information. Well done 👍
You should drop more video's definitely. ,Great 👍
Great video you put together here!!
I am not much of a Raider but this was so well put together and edited. Subbed
This was really well done and informative as well as interesting, GG WP Hutchler!!!!!
Great video Hutchler!!! Love to see it.. a nice blast from the past. I miss the XNX DOG and CUP pushes for #1. Will need tk get back it eventually. Any DH history coming???
Thanks Tropic.. 100% we do! Yes, possibly a DH one coming at some point :)
Great video! Especially for someone like myself who only got into raids earlier this year!
As a long time player and still haven’t completed my first IH, this leaves me in complete AWE!
Finally got round to watching this 👏
Exellent video my friend you really caugth my attencion !
Great stuff @Hutchler, yes we would like more like this. who wouldn't?
This was fascinating! Well done! 👍
Incredible video mate! I’m not a speed runner at all but found this really interesting!
This is awesome , well done 🎉
Brilliant video, script and narration mate. Five stars to you.
Great stuff thanks for sharing!
I fell asleep as soon as I heard her voice. Why so much praise for this video? I took 2 poos today and you don’t see me making a step by step TH-cam video about it.
I loved how you say cheated time but some group still find the Morozova skip
valid as a "speed run" you know who I am talking about.
Aha yeah. But following the community vote that was ruled 'invalid' for times within vroom, at least.
The Moro Skip was also ultimately responsible for those 1 min times all over the leaderboard atm too, which is sad
Great watch, and super impressive. It bothers me though that the devs couldn't care less about that cheat time topping the leaderboards for a year.
As speedrunners we've grown used to it. Hopefully videos like this will help to showcase how active the small division speedrun community actually is behind the scenes, though - which someday may change that!
Thanks very much for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed :)
Great introduction man! 💪🏾
Another masterfully crafted video. Fantastic job!
Ps what is the name of the music used from 19.45? Thanks
Those were fun times. Nice vid ^^
Great vid I thoroughly enjoyed it
Would love to see something like this for DH
The one shot started by taking Ron and Knuckles out straight away in NY
Then crept into the raid bosses
Brilliant, well done. 👏
Great video. Happy to Like and Follow.
Speedy boyos!
Ayyy, thanks for all you and the bois did :)
Very impressive!
I´m just sitting here, watching those guys with my mouth open and thinking "how is that possible?"
Nice Good stuff!
This is giving me Summoning Salt vibes and I love it
Love ur video so much info ❤️❤️
Amazing video!
Loved the video! amazing!👍
Very cool video
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Excellent video essay.
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Good video.
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First, a great thank you for this very accurate summary of the history of this speedrun, it plunged me into a moment of very intense nostalgia, and I am very grateful to you for it.
So, if you may, here is a little gift, just to remind you to never say never. Here is a footage of one of our firsts sub 19 run with the Fieser skip by HFR team. Hope you'll enjoy it th-cam.com/video/Fd-po6sdti0/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, it's pretty crazy how powerful nostalgia is. Imagine if everyone would've hid all their strats for years... A video like this would've never been possible.
I just want to do iron horse one time. Get the ravenous
Look guys we're famous again we got a 2 second mention in this video 🤣
LOL you implying you lost your fame? :D Really enjoyed the battle to sub-16 with you guys, and the accompanying banter - thanks for your contributions :)
@hutchler same was fun bro, shame you dipped out and went to pc really enjoyed smoking you xbox dudes with our slow loads and multi national team 🤣
the style and delivery was really good anda somewhat interesting topic however theres quite a few ordinary gamers that see some of this as a negative thing which inevitably brings sanctions from the devs ,lack of interest in engaging with the player base or roll backs? nerfs/ bans etc i dont doubt the dedication of those involved but the manner of these completions is a bit contentious in the same way as the summit fl 10 is not universally approved /dissapproved of , im in a high xbox leaderboard placed clan and opinion is certainly divided amongst us lot
one thing was glaringly obvious that magic phrase that should forever be the Divison 2's catchphrase "Not Working as Intended " .
i think you should send this round to most of the major gaming studios as an advert for your game testing skills then maybe they wouldnt release such broken ,incomplete glitched buggy -assed trash as they currently do .............sorry outbreak of idealism ,who am i kidding fixing things doesn't generate income in their eyes .
if its possible to do a fastest "clean run" eg only using mechanics that work as intended id say do it and claim it as the "real " world record and get Massive to wipe these dodgy run times from the leaderboards for them to argue against it would be like a sports personality trying to say using illegal performance enhancing substances is justifiable and no big thing and would just show the devs up as weak as hell on cheating
if anything this is a great expose of what many have believed for some time, something fishy was going with the raid or league speed run times but we didnt have the physical evidence one way or another to prove our suspicions until now that is , so grateful to you sir i now dont feel an inferiority complex that i cant complete Manning zoo in under 2 mins!!
Strategies, even if they use unintended mechanics, are a large part of speedrunning. I am a speedrunner myself, and can tell you that the things covered in this vid aren't 'get rich quick' strats - they're much harder to execute than the 'clean run' strats you suggest.
For the reasons you've listed, many games split speedruns into different categories to appease a wider audience. Div doesn't currently, but the category you're referring to with 'clean runs' is called glitchless. Runs in an any% (taking advantage of glitches) are no less valid than glitchless, they just fall into different categories.
Dependent on the mission you're referring to and the platform you play on, it's possible that the times you've seen are both legitimate and cheated. If they're console times, they're legitimate - there are no cheats available for console. On PC, it gets a bit blurrier - so the best way to find out the legitimate world record is to visit speedrun.com.
Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed! :)
@@hutchler thanks for the reply and link , im on xbox so one of the "forgotten people" currently the xbox leaderboard for iron horse shows a top time of 2.43 the top 10 are all sub 10 mins , so given what you explained you have to do to achieve world record times i would consider these times are somewhat suspect.
most missions from the leagues or progression leaderboards have times like these .
i did see on twitter you had reached out to the Devs maybe an additional item for the shopping list would be to audit the leaderboards and remove these suspect times especially if they cannot be verified by those posting them .
the likes of Dod , Dispatch, and yourself are a real counterbalance to the populist div content creators , if the devs ever do another ETF for this title or franchise lets hope you get a seat at the table
its a shame theres not many, if any division content creators covering consoles we're not all bad and some of us are even house trained!
We still can't Craft the exotic
BTW its IDI not IDR
yeaaaaah sorry about that
Have you seen (LFG) Infamous 2m 43.564s there is no way thats not a cheat an under 3 min Iron Horse run on normal. Yea ok
There are many different layers to that time, and I can't verify it's legitimacy but I would strongly doubt it, given current WRs. The main thing to know, is that the IH clan leaderboard actually shows DH times, so when they got that time - whether legitimate or not - they did it in DH, not IH
@Hutchler I can see 12 min possibly 10 min but 2min not even on DH you would have to 1 shoting everything and be running with Lady death talent speed for the whole thing I'm gonna call bull until there's proof
@@grgoyal I'm unable to comment on the validity of that specific time, but one thing I would note is that it was posted around the time that there was a famous DPS glitch, and a famous RB trick to make only the 4th boss split count on the leaderboard in-game.
Again, this is not an accusation around that specific team, but more so some info
@Hutchler regardless great video watched in awe crazy how they do it
Great information but you got other channels saying you guys are the sole reason we know what we know and that y'all kept the game alive..... Well F that I don't agree and now I don't like anyone who calls themselves a speed runner but that's my opinion and anyone has the right to disagree with me but I know I wouldn't be the only one who would have a similar opinion
Huh? I didn't say that xD I just gave a background of speedrunning IH!
You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but generalising just because someone speedruns is a bit meh - nothing about enjoying playing games quickly and competing makes someone a bad person by default. It's like saying you immediately don't like anyone who calls themselves a foodie...
As with every community, there are nice & helpful speedrunners, and there are toxic ones. My recommendation would be to cast your judgement on an individual basis, because at the end of the day speedrunners are just that - individuals.
@@hutchler I know bro and I agree 1000% but dod is saying that you speed runners are the only reason division 2 is still alive and only contribute to the community and that everything we do is because of y'all.............. I just don't agree and tbh no one would get my point in any way until I'm actually heard (speaking)
This sort of thing is asinine
So many Information in this video is NOT right
Information in this video was anecdotally collected - ie I have personally speedrun IH since release so saw the events unfold first hand. After putting this video together, I also got 4 core members of the LFN IH team featured and 1 of the OMN team to watch and fact check, to make sure the information was as accurate as can be.
If you can provide individual points which you believe are inaccurate, I can review them and respond :)
@@hutchler HKG team 2nd on ps despite the 1 cheated ,, we have creat and developed many strats on ps
HKG team clear the Iron horse raid after 2hrs after a team clear it first and that team cheated
@@hutchler we have develope Double rockets on Boss 2 , Boss 3 whipping 1st floor , fast traveling between B2to3 skipping, we creat Faraday and one shot snipping boomers on Boss 4,, ETC
@@hutchler Clearing the iron horse raid on the 2nd day , that has alow us to analyze and developed many technic that many team are using now
How cares how fast you can run through a game I feel bad for your girl if you speed-run in RL
Wdym? IRL female any% is a very competitive category!
Who*
Good video.