I don't recall having Morrigan act like an open book before but here she is speaking a lot of personal stuff to a stranger she's never met before. And what strikes me as a strange desision for her as a character is to have been brought into the game to (among other things) justify Flemeth's past wrong doings. The game also has the bravery to call her wronged, but despite there being a debate about how much of the legends of the witch of the wilds are true or not, the fact of the matter is that as a player I cannot understand how this game is forgetting that Morrigan's upbringing was one of her chore traumas and a big part of the reason to why she sees the world in a pragmatic light all the time. At one point she thinks she doesn't deserve to be loved because she doesn't know how to deal with her own emotions. She was taught, after all that emotions were meaningless. That love is meaningless. The "tales that her mother would tell her" were played for jokes, but of course: she uses humor to mask her insecurities and when you talk to her about those she admits that her mother was a monster all along. It was not an easy thing to crack that egg back in dragon age: origins and it shouldn't be up to us to ask such weird and personal questions to a person that has been known to be careful around strangers... She even mentions something along those lines in inqusition. I get that she has "changed" but holly fuck, did they insist in; not only leaving past player's choices as vage and useless as possible, but also making sure they create closure to morrigan's relationship with flemeth through informative dialogue even if it was cluncky and rushed. It also simply doesn't fit her character to admit defeat that easily. This could be a minor thing for some, but I always loved how stuborn her personality really is in previus titles. They completely changed that after inquisition and I dare even say before that, the third game was already showing how the writers only aimed to use her for exposition or to lick flemeth's boots. It was frankly, a miracle that her involvement back then didn't affect her personality, but this team surely wanted to fix some of that for us, huh.
We must have played different world states in Inquisition, Morrigan was ready to throw hands with Flemeth to protect Kieran from her, and even went to attack her. Flemeth stops her with the connection gained from the Well of Sorrows, provided Morrigan is the one who drank. In fact, the most dominant part of Morrigan's character has always been a thirst for knowledge and power, born out of a desire to become stronger than her mother and free of her. In Origins, if the Hero of Ferelden befriends or romances her, she lets her walls down, and she softens up a lot when she becomes a mother. In Veilguard, Morrigan is roughly 22 years older than she was in Origins. She's become Mythal's vessel either by drinking from the well or finding the fragment of Mythal that Flemeth sent through the Eluvian. She's also possibly a mother. But above all, she's still a powerful sorceress who seeks to save the world from destruction as she always has since she traveled with the Hero of Ferelden. People change, you're not going to be the same person you are now in 20 years. Even so, I think you're exaggerating the changes displayed in Morrigan's personality here.
@@TheFuronMothership I agree with your description of her character but you're also not getting my point. Maybe that's kind of my fault but I'll try to say it in another way. Yeah I understand how the journey for her character goes, but I do not think that's what they did here at all and the execution of the scene is what I'm criticizing. I'd even conclude that Morrigan shouldn't have been in the game at all for all she said and did back in inqusition. Wasn't she supposed to be gone in all world states? I supposed they were desperate to bring her back but the writting it's so blunt in displaying her in such a superficial way. It's a rushed conclusion to her and Flemeth's character and the journey there was completely skipped. They didn't end in good terms in the third game, but I liked how they ended things between them because they at least were realistic about it.
They tried to incorporate elements of Flemmeth’s armor to denote her connection to Mythal. I agree it could have been done more artfully. As for the personality change? She has literally absorbed Flemmeth’s soul and memories so she know knows why she was raised the way she was and why her mother behaved as she did. More importantly she knows her mother truly loved her even if she wasn’t particularly good at showing it. But she knows it in a way that simply goes beyond being told or reading it’s in a book that knowledge has become a part of her To paraphrase her mother speech “it is no more separate from her than her heart from her chest” there is no gain saying the truth of it there are no more illusions or deceptions and I think quite probably that is why this is more at peace and more comfortable than we have ever seen her before… Quite possibly her partnership with the warden and the raising of her son of also played a role… From caterpillar to chrysalis to butterfly. Quite possibly the execution could’ve been refined a little further, but overall I am content to see my favourite angsty goth girl doing well
@@TheFuronMothership She doesn't look like the same person as the Morrigan from DA:O / DA:I anymore. The facial structure is completely different. It looks like they even changed her skin tone. I don't get why they would make all these pointless changes when they did a completely faithful reimagining of the character in Inquisition.
I don't recall having Morrigan act like an open book before but here she is speaking a lot of personal stuff to a stranger she's never met before. And what strikes me as a strange desision for her as a character is to have been brought into the game to (among other things) justify Flemeth's past wrong doings. The game also has the bravery to call her wronged, but despite there being a debate about how much of the legends of the witch of the wilds are true or not, the fact of the matter is that as a player I cannot understand how this game is forgetting that Morrigan's upbringing was one of her chore traumas and a big part of the reason to why she sees the world in a pragmatic light all the time. At one point she thinks she doesn't deserve to be loved because she doesn't know how to deal with her own emotions. She was taught, after all that emotions were meaningless. That love is meaningless. The "tales that her mother would tell her" were played for jokes, but of course: she uses humor to mask her insecurities and when you talk to her about those she admits that her mother was a monster all along.
It was not an easy thing to crack that egg back in dragon age: origins and it shouldn't be up to us to ask such weird and personal questions to a person that has been known to be careful around strangers... She even mentions something along those lines in inqusition.
I get that she has "changed" but holly fuck, did they insist in; not only leaving past player's choices as vage and useless as possible, but also making sure they create closure to morrigan's relationship with flemeth through informative dialogue even if it was cluncky and rushed. It also simply doesn't fit her character to admit defeat that easily. This could be a minor thing for some, but I always loved how stuborn her personality really is in previus titles. They completely changed that after inquisition and I dare even say before that, the third game was already showing how the writers only aimed to use her for exposition or to lick flemeth's boots. It was frankly, a miracle that her involvement back then didn't affect her personality, but this team surely wanted to fix some of that for us, huh.
We must have played different world states in Inquisition, Morrigan was ready to throw hands with Flemeth to protect Kieran from her, and even went to attack her. Flemeth stops her with the connection gained from the Well of Sorrows, provided Morrigan is the one who drank.
In fact, the most dominant part of Morrigan's character has always been a thirst for knowledge and power, born out of a desire to become stronger than her mother and free of her. In Origins, if the Hero of Ferelden befriends or romances her, she lets her walls down, and she softens up a lot when she becomes a mother.
In Veilguard, Morrigan is roughly 22 years older than she was in Origins. She's become Mythal's vessel either by drinking from the well or finding the fragment of Mythal that Flemeth sent through the Eluvian. She's also possibly a mother. But above all, she's still a powerful sorceress who seeks to save the world from destruction as she always has since she traveled with the Hero of Ferelden.
People change, you're not going to be the same person you are now in 20 years. Even so, I think you're exaggerating the changes displayed in Morrigan's personality here.
@@TheFuronMothership I agree with your description of her character but you're also not getting my point. Maybe that's kind of my fault but I'll try to say it in another way.
Yeah I understand how the journey for her character goes, but I do not think that's what they did here at all and the execution of the scene is what I'm criticizing. I'd even conclude that Morrigan shouldn't have been in the game at all for all she said and did back in inqusition. Wasn't she supposed to be gone in all world states? I supposed they were desperate to bring her back but the writting it's so blunt in displaying her in such a superficial way. It's a rushed conclusion to her and Flemeth's character and the journey there was completely skipped. They didn't end in good terms in the third game, but I liked how they ended things between them because they at least were realistic about it.
They tried to incorporate elements of Flemmeth’s armor to denote her connection to Mythal. I agree it could have been done more artfully. As for the personality change? She has literally absorbed Flemmeth’s soul and memories so she know knows why she was raised the way she was and why her mother behaved as she did. More importantly she knows her mother truly loved her even if she wasn’t particularly good at showing it. But she knows it in a way that simply goes beyond being told or reading it’s in a book that knowledge has become a part of her To paraphrase her mother speech “it is no more separate from her than her heart from her chest” there is no gain saying the truth of it there are no more illusions or deceptions and I think quite probably that is why this is more at peace and more comfortable than we have ever seen her before… Quite possibly her partnership with the warden and the raising of her son of also played a role… From caterpillar to chrysalis to butterfly. Quite possibly the execution could’ve been refined a little further, but overall I am content to see my favourite angsty goth girl doing well
Why does she look so weird? Man, this whole game reminds me of fan fiction... I miss the old Bioware...
yup
She looks perfectly fine to me.
@@TheFuronMothership She doesn't look like the same person as the Morrigan from DA:O / DA:I anymore. The facial structure is completely different. It looks like they even changed her skin tone. I don't get why they would make all these pointless changes when they did a completely faithful reimagining of the character in Inquisition.
Those are long gone at least there’s still some good companies out there
@@user-sb8rv4ke6w She honestly doesn't look that much different from how she looks in Inquisition.
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