@@vanessahobbes3072 I posted this as my own comment but feel it’s worth mentioning here. I have nothing against Clays mom but as with ADs mom who was a bit naive to immediately give Clay credit for being a “Real Man” we are all being a bit naive to give praise to a woman for a show that also edited scenes to make her out to be a hero. Yes she stood her ground. Rightfully so BUT we don’t understand the entire story. We don’t know (besides Clays Dads and the limited details that he shares), what history transpired between the parents, whether the mom was potentially verbally abusive at times or cold and distant in his marriage. Did she stonewall the Dad during tough conversations? We don’t know if she was a gaslighter, nagger etc. Doesn’t give the Dad an excuse to cheat Ijs we should examine other possible scenarios knowing that what we did hear and do is the exact same thing we do when we allow media to form the narrative by what they show us and not by what we don’t see behind closed doors. I’m not saying she’s any of those things. I’m saying we are over glorifying an older woman who I imagine would respond the way any of us would had we been in her same shoes. When she said “you found me, and you still weren’t good to me”, we ran with the assumption that he was just not good to her at all, EVER (or as though she was always good to him). And I refuse to believe that’s true from 25 years of marriage.
I respect Amy for not talking about her sex life. Some things can be left private. This will be shown forever on a Netflix and maybe she doesn’t want her future children or possible career/employer
I agree. Her and Johnny were so genuine and respectful of one another, and you can tell they were approaching this from such a healthy place. I know people have different personalities, but I just disagree with talking about details of sex life and joking about it when drunk with girlfriends. Some things in marriage are sacred.
For real. It’s so gross. Especially because it’s her private life, Chelsea has no excuse, I do wonder if she has a drinking problem. She’s in therapy, I hope she learns to take responsibility for her actions. She could get her message across without exposing someone else’s private life who didn’t choose to be in a reality show!
I will never not think Jimmy telling her he effed his friend behind the scenes is just manipulative to make himself look better on camera. It was his friend of 2 years only like spare me him pretending it happened a lifetime ago.
@@GG-kn2seok, regardless Chelsea shouldn’t have said that because it had to do with a third person who didn’t sign up to have her private life on live television for the world to see.
@@KaloleloI feel like it’s common sense that during the filming of a reality TV show stuff you may want private might come out. He’s stupid for even having Chelsea meet them on camera. It was wrong of her but she doesn’t deserve to be crucified for it which she is being online. And if I was his friend that banged him and wanted it secret I wouldn’t agree to appear on a reality show that’s gonna show my face and use my name.
She ALWAYS thinks he did something wrong as well whenever she starts an argument. She never takes full accountability. She even said to Trevor it wasn’t all her fault when they had the huge fight about jimmys friend.
I’m not sure why people feel so awful for AD. Clay was very self aware and open about what his “red flags” were. He said in so many ways that he wasn’t ready to be a husband and that he would hurt her. She fell in love with his potential. She wanted to fix him like she has in every other relationships. Those don’t ever work out in your favor. Guys like Clay get better through you, not for you.
I know people like to say love is blind was created so Lauren and Cameron could meet… but I’m personally convinced it was created so Natalie and Deepti could become friends 👯♀️🥂
Just a suggestion to Deeps and Nat - maybe when you are going to talk about things the cast has potentially spoiled, put a warning/time stamp so that those of us who want to disregard it, can skip that part and enjoy the rest of your lovely recaps without worrying. Thanks for the episodes! I look forward to them all week! :)
Clay: goes on a tv show based on getting engaged sight unseen & married a month later Also Clay: says he can't put a ring on it til he sees what she looks like & doesn't understand why they have to rush into marriage 🤡
I have been married for over 37 years and still going strong. I say that a successful relationship is like a table. One leg represents communication, one leg represents respect, one leg represents trust, and the fourth leg represents mutual attraction. The table represents faith, and in the middle is a large centerpiece representing sacrifice. When you have a sturdy table it can hold whatever life brings your way - the good, bad, and indifferent.
I felt terrible for AD. She genuinely loved him. The difference between how they described why they loved each other was profound. All Clay could talk about was how great AD loves him. Not once did he say an actual reason ABOUT HER that he loved. I know she felt confused at the altar, but I saw it coming from a mile away. She was pretty naive. I don't think she tried to be, I just think she trusted the wrong person.
She did say “when I see a red flag I paint my nails to match”, I felt super bad watching her at the altar but after thinking about it more, it’s hard to feel sorry for her when she blatantly ignored all the red flags Clay was giving her. I think she wanted to get married just to be married.
I love seeing other people’s takes! I didn’t get the vibe that AD “genuinely loved” Clay. I think she was infatuated with him, specifically how he looks. She may have wanted to be in love with him because she wanted to stay with him, but I don’t think it was love. Especially when a complaint/concern of hers was that he was gone a lot because of work. I don’t think she can develop love for someone who isn’t there
Amy & Johnny is my favorite wedding so far. It felt like a real wedding, not a reality tv wedding. The way the two families bonded and intertwined with each other. The large # of guests. The intense use of floral decor. That they were both certain of each other saying yes and really excited to marry each other. Amy getting emotional at the start of her walk down the aisle with her dad and bro really choked me up. Best wedding so far!
Literally THE BEST!! I cried!! They're definitely end game && all drama aside Thank God for LIB if only for the fact it brought them together. Sooo meant to be. Knew it for sure when she met his sisters && when he met her dad. ❤❤❤
You guys discussing that Chelsea might be disappointed that the wedding getting canceled made me hear Chelsea's voice in my head "How embarrassing!" I do think Chelsea kind of cares of how people perceive her relationship more than how the relationship is going.
I feel like all season, all jimmy and Chelsea did was say I love and you’re my person. I personally didn’t see a natural genuine connection. I couldn’t believe that people actually thought they were going to get married. I could tell jimmy wasn’t into it since the reveal. I’m glad he broke it off before the wedding.
I met my husband, we became friends. He wanted to date. I said no, many times for a year. I didn’t have the physical attraction. But a year later we started dating. I gave it a try, physical attraction can grow with time because of your love for the person. We have been happily married for 35 yrs.
Do you think Love is Blind intentionally casts a certain percentage of men like Trevor, Clay, Jeramy, and Matthew hoping they'll get paired knowing the issues that they will cause? That's over 25% of the men right there.
I think they do! There was a TikTok from a guy who got casted who told the producers they weren’t looking to get married multiple times. The producers said that was OK because the audience “likes” to see different stories…
I also cried during Amy and Johnny’s wedding. It felt like a real wedding and real couple. I don’t think I have actually cried from the wedding in any other season or couple. They are just so completely genuine.
I cried when she was walking down the alter which is surprising because I skipped through most of their scenes 😅 they are just the most wholesome couple
Are we sure that Jimmy talks to his friend he slept with every day? Chelsea is prone to exaggeration and Jimmy never agreed that he does have daily convos with his friend. She also said things that weren't true during that fight like Jess was there when she wasn't so...
Someone mentioned on Reddit she is his coworker. So when Chelsea is all “where do you go at work” it’s part of her thinking he’s with his friend. And it would explain them communicating daily.
I agree. This was just being a mean girl. Jealousy. She is very insecure. From the start, at the reveal scene, she kept asking id he was happy, he liked what he saw. And it just got worse!!!
I'm trying to figure this out because I thought it was Jimmy who outed the girl by saying that he wanted to keep that private so he could protect her reputation since she came on the show. I haven't seen the scene in awhile but I don't remember Chelsea saying who it was.
She also just could have called her an ex cuz if they aren’t together they are exes. You talk to an ex all the time or an ex was there but she can’t say that cuz she does it too
Deepti and Natalie I am so grateful for this podcast! I am loving the show and I enjoy hearing your thoughts after every episode is done! It’s making taking care of two babies a joy when I can put a podcast in my ear while my kids nap! I feel like I’m chatting with my girlfriends! Thank you!! 🙏🏻❤️
I felt like Chelsea’s breakdown after Jimmy said no was because he embarrassed/rejected her in front of cameras AGAIN. She’s worried it makes her look like the weak one, and if Jimmy had hinted that he wasn’t all in, she could’ve had the upper hand and said no when he asked her first. Honestly, I think she knew it wouldn’t work and hates that he asserted it. She hates not having control which is why so many of their arguments get twisted to where he looks like the ‘bad guy’ and apologizes to her
I think the grossest thing Chelsea did by outing that jimmy slept with that friend isnt that she broke his trust, its that she qas perfectly willing to hurt someone who she isn't involved with to get her way. Jimmy said he's not outing it to protect that friend. I also think thats why it broke him. He was fine as long as he was the only one suffering from her behaviour but he didnt like his friends being collateral
I don't actually think it was fair to Chelsea to have to keep that secret because it directly impacted how she was acting in the public eye. There are consequences for being in the public eye and if Jimmy's friend didn't want to be known, then why'd she take the risk and show herself on TV? Honestly, once Chelsea spoke the truth, it shifted everything. It made so much more sense.
I have believed from the reveal that Jimmy didn't really want to be with chelsea. His actions spoke much louder than his words. When he told Jess she was still his number one at the lake it just confirmed it. He was either saving face for the camera or too much of a coward to end it. Chelsea was just so insecure and clearly has trauma but she had to know that Jimmy was checked out and that surely fed into her unhinged projection.
Not only saying “I love you” to someone they just met but calling each other “my best friend” when they actually have done nothing to show they can be treated as a real friend. I don’t know what kind of friends people have but a best friend is absolutely more than few days chatting with an unknown.
Unpopular opinion: people are just saying they love AD because that seems to be the general consensus and they don’t want to go against the grain. I don’t like AD and like Nancy, she is not someone you should aspire to be as it relates to relationships. AD is lacking confidence. From the second she had to twirl around to show her butt seeking clay’s approval because he didn’t compliment her looks upon first meeting to her ignoring this man saying he wasn’t ready for marriage 1000 times prior to the altar. She is STILL dating this man who literally does nothing but speak about himself. Even in the pods. A woman with confidence would not entertain a man like Clay. So when y’all say you like AD, please expound. Furthermore, for my moms out there, do you want your daughter to be like AD? I have a daughter…and the answer is an immediate no
@@deadams8905 I saw that too! But I feel like he could have also been mouthing you so I dunno. Maybe they'll mention it at the reunion because she looked blindsided
Do you think Netflix kinda created the Amy Johnny birth control storyline so they could have some sort of controversy? Plenty of people I knew thought they weren't gonna get married based off that and it created some type of reason for people to watch their storyline
I really hate how almost every TH-camr when discussing Johnny and Amy tend to give the least amount of attention to their story, just as the show did. I get that we find the drama entertaining but it just speaks to how jaded we are and desensitized to true love and what it should look like. We over glorify the drama scenes, examine and criticize end to end where someone went wrong but when someone did it right we call it boring, bland, uninteresting or as in Natalie’s case she fast forwarded the scenes with them as if there is not something to relish and celebrate. Something to aspire to. How much more can we truly benefit from this if we examined all the right decisions were made and how we can replicate those areas in our lives from the good examples that they showed. But of course the world we live in is not like that. If anything that is the travesty in it all.
38:02 Re: AD walking down the aisle solo, I also chose to do that. I didn’t have a relationship with my father and it gave me a sense of independence to walk solo like - I did this and got here without your help.
Weeks ago, I already said I felt like only Amy & Johnny would get married. So, I’m really happy they did! Love them ❤ I’m ready for the reunion episode. Mainly to see what Sarah Ann & Jeramy have to say 😂 lastly, my fav two Love Is Blind couples are still Lauren & Cam and Tiff & Brett.
Do you know I imagined this discussion while watching the Chelsea and Jimmy date! I couldn’t wait to hear what you both had to say; love the perspectives from you both. Great job ladies!
AD knew what was coming imo. She said there was nothing Clay could have said or done to change her answer. There were soooo many empty seats on her side at the wedding too, I believe her family also knew. Whatever happened to her brothers?
Jimmy didn’t break up with Chelsea. He said he couldn’t marry her right then. It was respectful. And he was right. Their relationship was too unhealthy to marry. Chelsea is red flags galore. 30 going in 13.
Chelsea should not have broken the trust of her partner. I agree with Natalie that people need to respect boundaries. That was his real life and she tread that line and showed Jimmy no respect. I feel that Jimmy loved Chelsea and she was in her head from the beginning. I would disagree that he did not love her. He had to reassure her as she persisted in being near him at all times.
Okay so I agree but didn't Jimmy out his friend by saying he wanted to protect his friend because she agreed to come on camera? Chelsea didn't say a name or point to anyone specific from what I am remembering from that scene. Am I remembering it incorrectly?
My aunt and uncle walked my down the aisle bc my dad refused to be there and my mom passed many years prior. I would hate to walk by myself.... they were steadying me and grounding me. I agree with Deepti on this subject.
I think that Chelsea was being gaslight by Jimmy (I.e. words not matching his actions) and that’s why we see her acting out so much on camera. I think his behavior is driving her to act insecure and angry. Even in the scene where she talks about how he hasn’t kissed her all day and then he says that he did, it doesn’t really seem like she remembers it happening. I think he’s lying.
He kissed her on camera, in front of her friends, when he came downstairs in that same day she accused him of not kissing her all day. Even when they had the argument about him going out, she agreed that he wasn’t gone that long. IMO Chelsea and Jimmy needed couple’s counseling, not cameras…and possibly time away from access to so much alcohol
Since there has been a lot of spoilers released does the powers that be of Love is Blind make a better Do Not Disclose in their contract?? This cast has spilled so much that I would think it wasn't allowed. Also, you Teo are spot on, the parents were the best part of this season. Even AD's mom had great words of wisdom. But Clay's mom for the Win. You could tell she wanted to say a heck of a lot more to her ex. Looking forward to the reunion tomorrow!!! Thanks again ladies for a great recap. You two are the only ones I Trust!! So thank you!! ❤❤
I'm surprised Chelsea would say she's glad she said it on camera. I do wonder if she meant that she is glad people know what was going through her mind and why she was acting so insecure, but there would have been better ways to get that point across without outing his friend, but when alcohol is involved things do tend to come out and I'm sure nobody gives partial blame to Netflix for airing it. Chelsea does need therapy, but I think people that bash her forget that cameras aren't on them at their worst moments for the world to judge them. It's quite shocking to me that Natalie saying that Shayne "hated her and that she was the worst thing for him in that moment" was the protect Shayne and his family version.
The thing is, Jimmy wasn't even with those girls that night when he went to the birthday party for an hour. Jimmy said he was with his frat brothers and two of them brought their girlfriends. Chelsea was itching for a fight and swerved several times.
I really like you guy’s podcasts, but why you keep bringing past if you can’t actually tell what happened. It’s so frustrating to be going back and forth on same thing yet not sharing the reality.
Absolutely not Natalie! Him still in contact ON A DAILY BASIS with a girl he has slept with needs to be talked about. It DOES expose reasons she feels insecure. You definitely wouldn’t feel secure if your man was out alone with a girl he had slept with, you’d be upset too and you know it.
If they slept together and despite communicating everyday and obviously getting along, they never started a relationship, I would feel pretty secured. Because it actually means that they don't have at least a physical attraction, and or a romantic one. Nothing would have stop them to have more sexual interaction, and they didn't. So it means that it is pretty much a platonic friendship. Yes they tried, no it didn't led to more, and now they are very good friends. Good for them.
This is me who’ve already listened to this finale recap on my Apple Podcast app yesterday but I’m still gonna watch this video and I completely agree with deepti that the parents truly carried this finale episode! Can’t wait for the reunion of Wednesday! I really hope its not a let down like the previous seasons reunion🫠
The easiest way to look at the Chelsea situation is Jimmy signed up for this experience. His friend did not, so anything involving the friend wasn’t Chelsea’s place to share.
Amy and Johnny did have both of his sisters in the wedding one sister was in Johnny’s party and one was in Amy’s bridal party. They walked down the aisle together but went to different sides. Awww ❤
MINT MOBILE IS MY JAM! at least in my area, mint mobile is way better than visible, who i was with before. i'm all about finding the cheapest phone plan possible!!
14:04 or Jimmy wanted to do that, I think he fooled you all. Jimmy didn’t love her form the beginning and he lied. That made Chelsea crazy. Jimmy brought his friend himself to the show and then he used her to torture Chelsea.
I really started off kinda hating Jimmy, but I developed some respect for him by the end. I feel bad for Chelsea. I don't think she's a bad person; I think she's clearly been badly hurt at some point and had not done the work on herself to heal from that, so her pain and self worth issues projected onto her relationship with Jimmy. IDK if that makes sense. Regarding his friend, I'm glad Chelsea apologized to her. Because as Jimmy said, it wasn't about HIS reputation, it was about his friend's. His friend had NOT signed up to go on that show. She had not consented to have her personal business shared with the world, so to me that was a really bad violation of her privacy. I'm glad that Chelsea realized that what she did was wrong there. I also hope that Chelsea is doing better today. I hope ALL of them are doing better.
The one thing I want to say about AD and Clay is that AD had previously said that if they didn’t get married then the relationship was over. I might have misunderstood but I though that was the exchange and Clay was like 😬
Maybe I'm the only one who isn't extremely annoyed by Chelsea. It's good she's working on herself but the way I saw it: two emotionally volatile people together. Jimmy isn't as good as everyone thinks he is. He couldn't handle her emotions and constantly gets embarrassed by anything she says. To me, they need someone who is more emotionally stable
I wondered why it was only one sister too, but I think its because one was supposed to be a bridesmaid && one a "groomsmen"?? Cause they walked down the aisle together. And the one sister was with all the guys && Johnny before the wedding. And i think it was cute. They were all included && it just shows how much they were meant to be. ❤❤
He mouthed to her to say no😩 and he basically said no in every episode. I was especially alarmed when AD let her mom praise clays parents relationship with the lack of knowledge of their infidelity…24 years or not cheating not ok
I think Chelsea purposely wanted to humiliate jimmy and that's why she brought up that thing with his friend, and why she told AD that he said she was stacked
49:32 At first I didn’t understand why it was only 1 of Johnny’s sisters in the bridal suite while the other sister was with Johnny and his groomsmen. But it was because the 2 sisters walked down the aisle together (one as a bridesmaid and the other sister was a “groomswoman”). It was cute.
Do you have a feel that AD&Cley gave same vibe and story Raven&SK? They're no married, have a relationship after show and Cley can potentially proposed AD again? (hope no cheatting after proposal)
I truly, deeply hope that AD did not take Clay back. The only way that I'm accepting this outcome is if Clay truly went to therapy, did the work, and groveled to have her back.
Natalie, I know that you mention having a bad edit on your season. I just wanted to say that I personally don't think you did. You were so authentic, and I feel your feelings were very valid. You and Deepti are my favs till this day. ❤
I just don't get why Jimmy said "I know you're my person, where is your head at?" Then proceeded to say he was done. It seemed like a set up, if he knew he wanted to break up why say that, it is both confusing and unfair.
I’m actually understanding Chelsea, `jimmy seemed fake from the start, he was careful with his words but his face and body language said it all.. Women we have strong intuition and `i think `Chelsea felt it. `it was very unfair to ask her to keep such big information in secret which is showing Jimmy in a different light.
Agreed, when they were discussing the topic on camera and she looked "crazy" without that context. I don't think they should have discussed those fears of hers on camera at all, but you can see that when she's triggered, she's panicking and sees the world differently and behaves differently than she normally would. So I also understand why she went along with production telling them to talk about their conflict (mostly likely reason that the conversation started on camera imo), got triggered, and when he's insisting it's totally irrational for her to be worried....I get that she was like, no, it isn't. ESPECIALLY when he's the one who had her meet them on camera. If he was so worried about it, he could have had her meet them off camera. It honestly looks to me like he set this situation up.
@Deepti and @Natalie, from watching the finale episode I did not interpret the conversation as an actual break up with Chlesea because Jimmy specifically said to Chelsea that he knows that she (Chelsea) is his person but that he is not ready to go to the altar; PLUS also have you ladies not seen the footage of Jimmy and Chelsea at multpile concerts and kissing in public???
I love AD, but she must have been in denial. There was no way Clay was going to say yes. Clay shouldn’t have gone on the show. He was never ready to get married.
Agree with you, Deepti and Natalie. It makes no sense, how Jimmy did the break up. I think he wanted to rip off the bandaid. Also, Chelsea is emotionally out of control and fought dirty, not healthily, the whole season. She tried to make her own insecurities and emotions his problem. If you think you are less than, you need to do your work and get healing and take proactive steps to take responsibility for why you don't feel enough for Jimmy. Every tiny thing was a blame game with Chelsea and she needs to own why she's SO insecure. The Lacheys should have asked her to own her blaming and insecurities and to talk about her journey to grow past blaming Jimmy for why she didn't feel enough. He had many reasons to break up with her. If she's that difficult to live with in month one, it will only get worse in marriage because she is not taking her own accountability for exposing him in a harsh way on camera. Also, wholeheartedly agree that you cannot reveal on camera and break someone's trust, because you showed who you are, a fiancee who Cannot be trusted with his deepest secrets. She can't put the blame on her emotions. Chelsea would lose her mind if he told her secrets on camera. She simply can't be trusted then to keep someone's heart safe. She broke a hard boundary and crossed a line that should never be crossed, for public consumption on a hugely popular show. This relationship was not going to work. I was very disappointed that the reunion show did not address what she did wrong and Jimmy was not innocent either but he stayed calm, when she was constantly upset over things that she built up in her head. It was so clear that he was not attracted to her. His reaction to AD, just how he lit up around AD and Jess. You never saw him look with a genuine smile in his eyes for Chelsea. He was clearly disappointed.
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The conversation between Clay's mom and dad was the most incredible scene on reality TV.
Yesss
The way she delivered “you met me, but you wasn’t good to me” I felt that
@@vanessahobbes3072 yesss
@@vanessahobbes3072 I posted this as my own comment but feel it’s worth mentioning here.
I have nothing against Clays mom but as with ADs mom who was a bit naive to immediately give Clay credit for being a “Real Man” we are all being a bit naive to give praise to a woman for a show that also edited scenes to make her out to be a hero. Yes she stood her ground. Rightfully so BUT we don’t understand the entire story. We don’t know (besides Clays Dads and the limited details that he shares), what history transpired between the parents, whether the mom was potentially verbally abusive at times or cold and distant in his marriage. Did she stonewall the Dad during tough conversations? We don’t know if she was a gaslighter, nagger etc. Doesn’t give the Dad an excuse to cheat Ijs we should examine other possible scenarios knowing that what we did hear and do is the exact same thing we do when we allow media to form the narrative by what they show us and not by what we don’t see behind closed doors. I’m not saying she’s any of those things. I’m saying we are over glorifying an older woman who I imagine would respond the way any of us would had we been in her same shoes. When she said “you found me, and you still weren’t good to me”, we ran with the assumption that he was just not good to her at all, EVER (or as though she was always good to him). And I refuse to believe that’s true from 25 years of marriage.
shes such a wise and strong woman omg
I respect Amy for not talking about her sex life. Some things can be left private. This will be shown forever on a Netflix and maybe she doesn’t want her future children or possible career/employer
she is so classy!
This! She knew her family was watching and she didn’t want to look trashy
I support keeping it classy!! 💃
I agree. Her and Johnny were so genuine and respectful of one another, and you can tell they were approaching this from such a healthy place. I know people have different personalities, but I just disagree with talking about details of sex life and joking about it when drunk with girlfriends. Some things in marriage are sacred.
I agree! And I don't think its necessary to talk about your sex life on TV. Some things should be kept private! They are already sharing a lot.
Your ex’s DMs shows that an ex can be kind and respectful in a DM without being sleazy. Sara Ann could never.
Chelseas apoligies always end with a "but," so that just kinda ruins the whole apology for me
For real. It’s so gross. Especially because it’s her private life, Chelsea has no excuse, I do wonder if she has a drinking problem. She’s in therapy, I hope she learns to take responsibility for her actions. She could get her message across without exposing someone else’s private life who didn’t choose to be in a reality show!
I will never not think Jimmy telling her he effed his friend behind the scenes is just manipulative to make himself look better on camera. It was his friend of 2 years only like spare me him pretending it happened a lifetime ago.
@@GG-kn2seok, regardless Chelsea shouldn’t have said that because it had to do with a third person who didn’t sign up to have her private life on live television for the world to see.
@@KaloleloI feel like it’s common sense that during the filming of a reality TV show stuff you may want private might come out. He’s stupid for even having Chelsea meet them on camera. It was wrong of her but she doesn’t deserve to be crucified for it which she is being online. And if I was his friend that banged him and wanted it secret I wouldn’t agree to appear on a reality show that’s gonna show my face and use my name.
She ALWAYS thinks he did something wrong as well whenever she starts an argument. She never takes full accountability. She even said to Trevor it wasn’t all her fault when they had the huge fight about jimmys friend.
HOW did you guys not mention Amy having her brother walk her down the aisle? That entire scene had me literally WEEPING
I’m not sure why people feel so awful for AD. Clay was very self aware and open about what his “red flags” were. He said in so many ways that he wasn’t ready to be a husband and that he would hurt her. She fell in love with his potential. She wanted to fix him like she has in every other relationships. Those don’t ever work out in your favor. Guys like Clay get better through you, not for you.
Yes! And she said she sees red flags and paints her nails red to match…. Girl… you got yourself here.
For real! Getting better through you not for you really hit the nail on the head perfectly said!
Has AD forgotten when Clay mentioned that he’d get her into the gym when pregnant to manage any weight gain? This was such a huge red flag surely 😩
She probably painted her nails red to match him that day
@@EmpressEllieHAHAHAHAHA
@@brianna9101 teehee
I know people like to say love is blind was created so Lauren and Cameron could meet… but I’m personally convinced it was created so Natalie and Deepti could become friends 👯♀️🥂
Just a suggestion to Deeps and Nat - maybe when you are going to talk about things the cast has potentially spoiled, put a warning/time stamp so that those of us who want to disregard it, can skip that part and enjoy the rest of your lovely recaps without worrying. Thanks for the episodes! I look forward to them all week! :)
Love that idea
Clay: goes on a tv show based on getting engaged sight unseen & married a month later
Also Clay: says he can't put a ring on it til he sees what she looks like & doesn't understand why they have to rush into marriage
🤡
Natalie, I think you have so much class and grace never revealing what Shane did before your wedding. Class act! 🤍💯
Can you at least give us a hint???
I think it would be better if she didn’t mention Shane at all
I mean as long as he didn't lay hands on you, that's between yall. But if that man laid hands, we all gonna revolt!
I have been married for over 37 years and still going strong. I say that a successful relationship is like a table. One leg represents communication, one leg represents respect, one leg represents trust, and the fourth leg represents mutual attraction. The table represents faith, and in the middle is a large centerpiece representing sacrifice. When you have a sturdy table it can hold whatever life brings your way - the good, bad, and indifferent.
wow, just punching me and my one-legged engagement right in the face there, matthew. joke aside, I think you're absolutely right about that.
@@carrained LoL, I hope it isn't in an ass-kicking competition. Jokes aside, I wish you all the happiness in the world you so richly deserve.
You cannot tell me that Jess is wanting "real love" and she is going on Perfect Match..Ain't.no.way.
I completely agree - her credibility evaporated completely!
Exactly. I think she went on for fame (like most folks on LIB). Look at her social media 🥴🥴🥴 she’s in everybody’s comments
I actually hope she went for clout because finding a future step-father on LIB made no sense.
Yep!!! I wouldn’t be exposing myself specially with a kid to whatever edit they want to do.
I felt terrible for AD. She genuinely loved him. The difference between how they described why they loved each other was profound. All Clay could talk about was how great AD loves him. Not once did he say an actual reason ABOUT HER that he loved. I know she felt confused at the altar, but I saw it coming from a mile away. She was pretty naive. I don't think she tried to be, I just think she trusted the wrong person.
She did say “when I see a red flag I paint my nails to match”, I felt super bad watching her at the altar but after thinking about it more, it’s hard to feel sorry for her when she blatantly ignored all the red flags Clay was giving her. I think she wanted to get married just to be married.
@@Harmoniousteakagree
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I love seeing other people’s takes! I didn’t get the vibe that AD “genuinely loved” Clay. I think she was infatuated with him, specifically how he looks. She may have wanted to be in love with him because she wanted to stay with him, but I don’t think it was love. Especially when a complaint/concern of hers was that he was gone a lot because of work. I don’t think she can develop love for someone who isn’t there
But he kept telling her he wasn’t ready, wanted therapy and didn’t want to hurt her. She wanted to believe in the process and didn’t want to hear it
Amy & Johnny is my favorite wedding so far. It felt like a real wedding, not a reality tv wedding. The way the two families bonded and intertwined with each other. The large # of guests. The intense use of floral decor. That they were both certain of each other saying yes and really excited to marry each other. Amy getting emotional at the start of her walk down the aisle with her dad and bro really choked me up. Best wedding so far!
Literally THE BEST!! I cried!! They're definitely end game && all drama aside Thank God for LIB if only for the fact it brought them together. Sooo meant to be. Knew it for sure when she met his sisters && when he met her dad. ❤❤❤
You guys discussing that Chelsea might be disappointed that the wedding getting canceled made me hear Chelsea's voice in my head "How embarrassing!" I do think Chelsea kind of cares of how people perceive her relationship more than how the relationship is going.
100%. She was worried about other people seeing Jimmy out by himself instead of actually him being out
Yes, I noted this coming up multiple times as well! How’s it going to look?
I feel like all season, all jimmy and Chelsea did was say I love and you’re my person. I personally didn’t see a natural genuine connection. I couldn’t believe that people actually thought they were going to get married. I could tell jimmy wasn’t into it since the reveal. I’m glad he broke it off before the wedding.
Same, it was said so much it rang hollow. I never was sure they actually liked each other
I genuinely thought Jimmy would lie to himself all the way to the alter.
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You have to watch the reunion. There is HOT TEA!
He couldn’t say it enough. She kept complaining. Not enough kisses, not enough I love yous
Jess saying she’s not a social media girly but totally is 😂🫣
I met my husband, we became friends. He wanted to date. I said no, many times for a year. I didn’t have the physical attraction. But a year later we started dating. I gave it a try, physical attraction can grow with time because of your love for the person. We have been happily married for 35 yrs.
Do you think Love is Blind intentionally casts a certain percentage of men like Trevor, Clay, Jeramy, and Matthew hoping they'll get paired knowing the issues that they will cause? That's over 25% of the men right there.
I think they do! There was a TikTok from a guy who got casted who told the producers they weren’t looking to get married multiple times. The producers said that was OK because the audience “likes” to see different stories…
I also cried during Amy and Johnny’s wedding. It felt like a real wedding and real couple. I don’t think I have actually cried from the wedding in any other season or couple. They are just so completely genuine.
I cried as well!
My boyfriend and I both cried during their wedding! It was really sweet.
It was so beautiful! Their families are so loving.❤
I cried when she was walking down the alter which is surprising because I skipped through most of their scenes 😅 they are just the most wholesome couple
Clay went on the show to advertise his business and get followers. Period.
lol and so did everyone else
@@VanshayMurdock yes so many clout chasers! Especially this season.
“Love is Lucky” totally agree.
Around minute 49, you guys forgot to cut out how you were talking about only one of Johnny’s sisters being included in the bridal party 😂❤
lol that was funny they didn’t edit that part out
Are we sure that Jimmy talks to his friend he slept with every day? Chelsea is prone to exaggeration and Jimmy never agreed that he does have daily convos with his friend. She also said things that weren't true during that fight like Jess was there when she wasn't so...
Someone mentioned on Reddit she is his coworker. So when Chelsea is all “where do you go at work” it’s part of her thinking he’s with his friend. And it would explain them communicating daily.
But he works from home right? So I don’t understand that part
@@alexandra17777 it didn’t.
I feel like Chelsea could've just said that "well SOMEONE you slept with once was there" rather than naming who it specifically was.
YES!!!
I agree. This was just being a mean girl. Jealousy. She is very insecure. From the start, at the reveal scene, she kept asking id he was happy, he liked what he saw. And it just got worse!!!
I'm trying to figure this out because I thought it was Jimmy who outed the girl by saying that he wanted to keep that private so he could protect her reputation since she came on the show. I haven't seen the scene in awhile but I don't remember Chelsea saying who it was.
She also just could have called her an ex cuz if they aren’t together they are exes. You talk to an ex all the time or an ex was there but she can’t say that cuz she does it too
The lack of self awareness that Clay's dad shows is far beyond the lack of self awareness that cast members showed this season.
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It’s weird that we never saw anyone from Chelsea family? I think knowing her back story would have been nice
Jonny did have one of his sisters part of his grooms party so I’m sure it was to balance things out. It was a great weeding no matter what
I felt like Chelsea’s breakdown after Jimmy said no was because he embarrassed/rejected her in front of cameras AGAIN. She’s worried it makes her look like the weak one, and if Jimmy had hinted that he wasn’t all in, she could’ve had the upper hand and said no when he asked her first.
Honestly, I think she knew it wouldn’t work and hates that he asserted it. She hates not having control which is why so many of their arguments get twisted to where he looks like the ‘bad guy’ and apologizes to her
I think the grossest thing Chelsea did by outing that jimmy slept with that friend isnt that she broke his trust, its that she qas perfectly willing to hurt someone who she isn't involved with to get her way. Jimmy said he's not outing it to protect that friend. I also think thats why it broke him. He was fine as long as he was the only one suffering from her behaviour but he didnt like his friends being collateral
Oh my gosh, yes. What a turn off. If you are a good person, “ mean girls” are a big turn off
I don't actually think it was fair to Chelsea to have to keep that secret because it directly impacted how she was acting in the public eye. There are consequences for being in the public eye and if Jimmy's friend didn't want to be known, then why'd she take the risk and show herself on TV? Honestly, once Chelsea spoke the truth, it shifted everything. It made so much more sense.
If AD forgave Clay. lol. AD has no self esteem.
Agreed!!
I have believed from the reveal that Jimmy didn't really want to be with chelsea. His actions spoke much louder than his words. When he told Jess she was still his number one at the lake it just confirmed it. He was either saving face for the camera or too much of a coward to end it. Chelsea was just so insecure and clearly has trauma but she had to know that Jimmy was checked out and that surely fed into her unhinged projection.
did Deepti just accidentally create Johnny's & Amy's couple name "Jamy"? 😅
Not only saying “I love you” to someone they just met but calling each other “my best friend” when they actually have done nothing to show they can be treated as a real friend. I don’t know what kind of friends people have but a best friend is absolutely more than few days chatting with an unknown.
Unpopular opinion: people are just saying they love AD because that seems to be the general consensus and they don’t want to go against the grain.
I don’t like AD and like Nancy, she is not someone you should aspire to be as it relates to relationships. AD is lacking confidence. From the second she had to twirl around to show her butt seeking clay’s approval because he didn’t compliment her looks upon first meeting to her ignoring this man saying he wasn’t ready for marriage 1000 times prior to the altar.
She is STILL dating this man who literally does nothing but speak about himself. Even in the pods. A woman with confidence would not entertain a man like Clay.
So when y’all say you like AD, please expound.
Furthermore, for my moms out there, do you want your daughter to be like AD? I have a daughter…and the answer is an immediate no
You are right 💯
She is too valley girl to me. I'm sure she is a nice person but I find that personality type a bit annoying. I think she also got a good edit.
@@deadams8905 I personally don’t care about how she talks … it’s just that desperation that bothers me
They definitely did NOT give Trevor a good edit at the reunion 😂 the tea missed a little on that one
In private I think Clay said he was a yes. I think that's why she's so stunned and why he started explaining, saying it was a game time decision.
Good theory!!!
I saw a tick Tok that showed him mouthing "no" to her at the alter. Maybe he was referring to something else and it was just editing.
@@deadams8905 I saw that too! But I feel like he could have also been mouthing you so I dunno. Maybe they'll mention it at the reunion because she looked blindsided
That's a good point. It really doesn't make since if he was mouthing no and she was still all smiles. @@SEOshogun
Their outfits are so cute! I love that color on Deepti!
Apparently LIB is filming in Minneapolis, MN for season 7. My hometown. Should be interesting. 🎉
I've read it may be in DC.
Do you think Netflix kinda created the Amy Johnny birth control storyline so they could have some sort of controversy? Plenty of people I knew thought they weren't gonna get married based off that and it created some type of reason for people to watch their storyline
AD is the embodiment of that Bojack Horseman line "all the red flags just looks like flags when you're wearing rose colored glasses"
I really hate how almost every TH-camr when discussing Johnny and Amy tend to give the least amount of attention to their story, just as the show did. I get that we find the drama entertaining but it just speaks to how jaded we are and desensitized to true love and what it should look like. We over glorify the drama scenes, examine and criticize end to end where someone went wrong but when someone did it right we call it boring, bland, uninteresting or as in Natalie’s case she fast forwarded the scenes with them as if there is not something to relish and celebrate. Something to aspire to. How much more can we truly benefit from this if we examined all the right decisions were made and how we can replicate those areas in our lives from the good examples that they showed. But of course the world we live in is not like that. If anything that is the travesty in it all.
I second this!
social media capitalizes off drama🎭 it is sad what entertainment has come to
Yeah people love seeing other peoples downfall. People said their story was boring because they seemed happy together.
Clay and his family can have their own show with therapy involved and I would watch!
Clays mom took the entire episode!! Freaking love her
38:02 Re: AD walking down the aisle solo, I also chose to do that. I didn’t have a relationship with my father and it gave me a sense of independence to walk solo like - I did this and got here without your help.
Weeks ago, I already said I felt like only Amy & Johnny would get married. So, I’m really happy they did! Love them ❤ I’m ready for the reunion episode. Mainly to see what Sarah Ann & Jeramy have to say 😂 lastly, my fav two Love Is Blind couples are still Lauren & Cam and Tiff & Brett.
Love your commentary! And you both look amazing, loving the hair on Deepti!
Do you know I imagined this discussion while watching the Chelsea and Jimmy date! I couldn’t wait to hear what you both had to say; love the perspectives from you both. Great job ladies!
AD knew what was coming imo. She said there was nothing Clay could have said or done to change her answer. There were soooo many empty seats on her side at the wedding too, I believe her family also knew. Whatever happened to her brothers?
Natalie’s takes are 💯
Jimmy didn’t break up with Chelsea. He said he couldn’t marry her right then. It was respectful. And he was right. Their relationship was too unhealthy to marry. Chelsea is red flags galore. 30 going in 13.
Chelsea should not have broken the trust of her partner. I agree with Natalie that people need to respect boundaries. That was his real life and she tread that line and showed Jimmy no respect. I feel that Jimmy loved Chelsea and she was in her head from the beginning. I would disagree that he did not love her. He had to reassure her as she persisted in being near him at all times.
Okay so I agree but didn't Jimmy out his friend by saying he wanted to protect his friend because she agreed to come on camera? Chelsea didn't say a name or point to anyone specific from what I am remembering from that scene. Am I remembering it incorrectly?
My aunt and uncle walked my down the aisle bc my dad refused to be there and my mom passed many years prior. I would hate to walk by myself.... they were steadying me and grounding me. I agree with Deepti on this subject.
I think that Chelsea was being gaslight by Jimmy (I.e. words not matching his actions) and that’s why we see her acting out so much on camera. I think his behavior is driving her to act insecure and angry. Even in the scene where she talks about how he hasn’t kissed her all day and then he says that he did, it doesn’t really seem like she remembers it happening. I think he’s lying.
Same. I couldn’t believe a word out of Jimmy’s mouth. As annoying as Chelsea was, I can empathize with her on this part.
He kissed her on camera, in front of her friends, when he came downstairs in that same day she accused him of not kissing her all day. Even when they had the argument about him going out, she agreed that he wasn’t gone that long. IMO Chelsea and Jimmy needed couple’s counseling, not cameras…and possibly time away from access to so much alcohol
She was insecure, day one. Watch the reveal. And first day in the Dominican.
Well … she isn’t Megan Fox
Since there has been a lot of spoilers released does the powers that be of Love is Blind make a better Do Not Disclose in their contract?? This cast has spilled so much that I would think it wasn't allowed. Also, you Teo are spot on, the parents were the best part of this season. Even AD's mom had great words of wisdom. But Clay's mom for the Win. You could tell she wanted to say a heck of a lot more to her ex. Looking forward to the reunion tomorrow!!! Thanks again ladies for a great recap. You two are the only ones I Trust!! So thank you!! ❤❤
If AD is still with Clay, I have lost all respect for her. Girl needs to do some inner healing if she thinks Clay is her man.
🎯 Jimmy’s scared for his life at this point, I def felt he was just pacifying her because she’s literally crying or throwing up 24/7🙄 20:39
I want to keep watching but I don’t want any more spoilers on reunion and perfect match!!
I'm surprised Chelsea would say she's glad she said it on camera. I do wonder if she meant that she is glad people know what was going through her mind and why she was acting so insecure, but there would have been better ways to get that point across without outing his friend, but when alcohol is involved things do tend to come out and I'm sure nobody gives partial blame to Netflix for airing it. Chelsea does need therapy, but I think people that bash her forget that cameras aren't on them at their worst moments for the world to judge them.
It's quite shocking to me that Natalie saying that Shayne "hated her and that she was the worst thing for him in that moment" was the protect Shayne and his family version.
The thing is, Jimmy wasn't even with those girls that night when he went to the birthday party for an hour. Jimmy said he was with his frat brothers and two of them brought their girlfriends. Chelsea was itching for a fight and swerved several times.
I really like you guy’s podcasts, but why you keep bringing past if you can’t actually tell what happened. It’s so frustrating to be going back and forth on same thing yet not sharing the reality.
I cannot stand Jess. What a clout chaser and attention seeker.
What makes you say that? (Just wondering if I missed smthn lol)
@@ak6ill too long to say and things she’s said and how she’s acted.
Absolutely not Natalie! Him still in contact ON A DAILY BASIS with a girl he has slept with needs to be talked about. It DOES expose reasons she feels insecure. You definitely wouldn’t feel secure if your man was out alone with a girl he had slept with, you’d be upset too and you know it.
If they slept together and despite communicating everyday and obviously getting along, they never started a relationship, I would feel pretty secured. Because it actually means that they don't have at least a physical attraction, and or a romantic one. Nothing would have stop them to have more sexual interaction, and they didn't. So it means that it is pretty much a platonic friendship. Yes they tried, no it didn't led to more, and now they are very good friends. Good for them.
Johnny’s two awesome sisters were both at the wedding - one on his side and the other with her 😊
This is me who’ve already listened to this finale recap on my Apple Podcast app yesterday but I’m still gonna watch this video and I completely agree with deepti that the parents truly carried this finale episode! Can’t wait for the reunion of Wednesday! I really hope its not a let down like the previous seasons reunion🫠
The easiest way to look at the Chelsea situation is Jimmy signed up for this experience. His friend did not, so anything involving the friend wasn’t Chelsea’s place to share.
I felt so crazy Crying when Johnny's sisters came on screen glad to know I wasnt alone lol
This is my fav season 🤍🥰 best drama and cast
When Clay kept kissing AD after he said no, I wanted to throw up. Yuck. :(
Amy and Johnny did have both of his sisters in the wedding one sister was in Johnny’s party and one was in Amy’s bridal party. They walked down the aisle together but went to different sides. Awww ❤
You two forgot to mention that Jimmy and Chelsea have been spotted in Florida together
MINT MOBILE IS MY JAM! at least in my area, mint mobile is way better than visible, who i was with before. i'm all about finding the cheapest phone plan possible!!
14:04 or Jimmy wanted to do that, I think he fooled you all.
Jimmy didn’t love her form the beginning and he lied. That made Chelsea crazy. Jimmy brought his friend himself to the show and then he used her to torture Chelsea.
Agree.
I'm so mad they're on his side..... like he100% would put that random girl over chelsea.. it's so obvious
I really started off kinda hating Jimmy, but I developed some respect for him by the end. I feel bad for Chelsea. I don't think she's a bad person; I think she's clearly been badly hurt at some point and had not done the work on herself to heal from that, so her pain and self worth issues projected onto her relationship with Jimmy. IDK if that makes sense.
Regarding his friend, I'm glad Chelsea apologized to her. Because as Jimmy said, it wasn't about HIS reputation, it was about his friend's. His friend had NOT signed up to go on that show. She had not consented to have her personal business shared with the world, so to me that was a really bad violation of her privacy. I'm glad that Chelsea realized that what she did was wrong there. I also hope that Chelsea is doing better today. I hope ALL of them are doing better.
The one thing I want to say about AD and Clay is that AD had previously said that if they didn’t get married then the relationship was over. I might have misunderstood but I though that was the exchange and Clay was like 😬
I can see Chelsea’s side… Jimmy looked good on camera because his actions were hidden. So Chelsea looks crazy without the context.
He also seemed so fake to me the whole time I never believed a word he said
AD loves red. Clay is walking RED FLAG. Can't feel sorry for them 😮💨
This podcast - agree with everything deepti said, I had same perspective and also season 6 was the best so far. Deep, drama and emotion.
Natalie Shayne said u should spill this secret or call him on the show to say it. I'm tired hearing about it without hearing about it
Maybe I'm the only one who isn't extremely annoyed by Chelsea. It's good she's working on herself but the way I saw it: two emotionally volatile people together. Jimmy isn't as good as everyone thinks he is. He couldn't handle her emotions and constantly gets embarrassed by anything she says. To me, they need someone who is more emotionally stable
I wondered why it was only one sister too, but I think its because one was supposed to be a bridesmaid && one a "groomsmen"?? Cause they walked down the aisle together. And the one sister was with all the guys && Johnny before the wedding. And i think it was cute. They were all included && it just shows how much they were meant to be. ❤❤
He mouthed to her to say no😩 and he basically said no in every episode. I was especially alarmed when AD let her mom praise clays parents relationship with the lack of knowledge of their infidelity…24 years or not cheating not ok
I think Chelsea purposely wanted to humiliate jimmy and that's why she brought up that thing with his friend, and why she told AD that he said she was stacked
49:32 At first I didn’t understand why it was only 1 of Johnny’s sisters in the bridal suite while the other sister was with Johnny and his groomsmen. But it was because the 2 sisters walked down the aisle together (one as a bridesmaid and the other sister was a “groomswoman”). It was cute.
Do you have a feel that AD&Cley gave same vibe and story Raven&SK?
They're no married, have a relationship after show and Cley can potentially proposed AD again? (hope no cheatting after proposal)
I truly, deeply hope that AD did not take Clay back. The only way that I'm accepting this outcome is if Clay truly went to therapy, did the work, and groveled to have her back.
Natalie, I know that you mention having a bad edit on your season. I just wanted to say that I personally don't think you did. You were so authentic, and I feel your feelings were very valid. You and Deepti are my favs till this day. ❤
Clay’s dad is 🗑️
I was waiting for you guys for so long 🫶🏾
My guess is Izzy is on perfect match
I’m sure he is and Micah
That's what I would think too but I think he got married.
Izzy?
I really hope Jimmy and Chelsea aren’t together in present day. She is enraging.
Nah. It was intentional with Chelsea. She didn't need to blast it like that. She wanted to out him to punish him. She has no emotional self control.
I just don't get why Jimmy said "I know you're my person, where is your head at?" Then proceeded to say he was done. It seemed like a set up, if he knew he wanted to break up why say that, it is both confusing and unfair.
I’m actually understanding Chelsea, `jimmy seemed fake from the start, he was careful with his words but his face and body language said it all.. Women we have strong intuition and `i think `Chelsea felt it. `it was very unfair to ask her to keep such big information in secret which is showing Jimmy in a different light.
Agreed, when they were discussing the topic on camera and she looked "crazy" without that context. I don't think they should have discussed those fears of hers on camera at all, but you can see that when she's triggered, she's panicking and sees the world differently and behaves differently than she normally would. So I also understand why she went along with production telling them to talk about their conflict (mostly likely reason that the conversation started on camera imo), got triggered, and when he's insisting it's totally irrational for her to be worried....I get that she was like, no, it isn't.
ESPECIALLY when he's the one who had her meet them on camera. If he was so worried about it, he could have had her meet them off camera. It honestly looks to me like he set this situation up.
Agree agree agree. He gaslit her all the time and his behavior triggered her insecurities so she comes off extremely insecure.
@Deepti and @Natalie, from watching the finale episode I did not interpret the conversation as an actual break up with Chlesea because Jimmy specifically said to Chelsea that he knows that she (Chelsea) is his person but that he is not ready to go to the altar; PLUS also have you ladies not seen the footage of Jimmy and Chelsea at multpile concerts and kissing in public???
I love AD, but she must have been in denial. There was no way Clay was going to say yes. Clay shouldn’t have gone on the show. He was never ready to get married.
Agree with you, Deepti and Natalie. It makes no sense, how Jimmy did the break up. I think he wanted to rip off the bandaid. Also, Chelsea is emotionally out of control and fought dirty, not healthily, the whole season. She tried to make her own insecurities and emotions his problem. If you think you are less than, you need to do your work and get healing and take proactive steps to take responsibility for why you don't feel enough for Jimmy. Every tiny thing was a blame game with Chelsea and she needs to own why she's SO insecure. The Lacheys should have asked her to own her blaming and insecurities and to talk about her journey to grow past blaming Jimmy for why she didn't feel enough. He had many reasons to break up with her. If she's that difficult to live with in month one, it will only get worse in marriage because she is not taking her own accountability for exposing him in a harsh way on camera. Also, wholeheartedly agree that you cannot reveal on camera and break someone's trust, because you showed who you are, a fiancee who Cannot be trusted with his deepest secrets. She can't put the blame on her emotions. Chelsea would lose her mind if he told her secrets on camera. She simply can't be trusted then to keep someone's heart safe. She broke a hard boundary and crossed a line that should never be crossed, for public consumption on a hugely popular show. This relationship was not going to work. I was very disappointed that the reunion show did not address what she did wrong and Jimmy was not innocent either but he stayed calm, when she was constantly upset over things that she built up in her head. It was so clear that he was not attracted to her. His reaction to AD, just how he lit up around AD and Jess. You never saw him look with a genuine smile in his eyes for Chelsea. He was clearly disappointed.
love the dm for the ex! so kind haha