Why Homelander Is AGING Fast in The Boys | Soldier Boy and Stormfront Are NOT Getting Old
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- In The Boys season 4, we learn that Homelander is aging at around the same rate of a normal human. Both Stormfront and Solider Boy are aging at a much slower rate. This video goes over the reasons why and how Compound V plays a role.
I think Stan Edgar made sure in case Homelander became "bad product" that he would eventually expire.
He made sure every supes are replaceable.
Considering how smart Stan is, I don't doubt that he knows Homelander was injected with an inferior version of Compund V specifically so that he doesn't become as unstoppable as Soldier Boy or Stormfront or even stronger than them. Yes, Homelander is stronger than both, but with his aging, it will eventually catch up to him.
@@Adonisius_Kavatayeah they definitely meddled with the formula to cut out immortality because of soldier boy and stormfront who got worse to deal with every decade wouldn’t make sense for homelander to have so many abilities and miss out on one of the biggest perks of the top tier supes otherwise
To play around the plot twist at the end of the comic
They installed the “Blade Runner” failsafe option in Homie.
Homie might be dead in 3 years or even less. 🤣
My theory is that Homelander was meant to age faster, it could be that he was originally meant to be used and disposed just like Solid Snake and the clones of Big Boss in Metal Gear Solid.
Or just having a normal human life span
Nah it's just the actor is getting old
@@itdobelikedattho8112 the actor doesnt even have blonde hair and we only got a season left. wouldn't really make sense for that to be the reason
It doesn't make sense. If they were able to do that they would have also be able to create a literal killswitch to off him of he gout out of line.
I think that's exactly what's happening. Sdier boy is an issue for them, they can't kill him, that's why they keep him sleeping.
I think they figured having an expiration date , allowed for them to make better super heros, and better yet, temporary heros.
Dusty, a Gen V character, has the power of slow aging, and he got it from the same formula of compound V as almost everyone else in the shows got. Slow aging is just one of the powers that compound V can produce, but it's like flying - not everyone gets it. The only early supes that we see in the shows had slow aging, but that's not because all the early supes got it, it's because it's been long enough that all of the other early supes have died.
Makes me wonder if black noir had it. Never took a look under that mask since the brain damage
Daaamn, never thought about it that way. We fell under the survivors bias.
that's what i thought too, it's like gambling, you don't get to decide which powers you get, but since homelander was "made" in a lab, maybe they did engineer the compound v in his blood to not give him the power of slow aging
I thought it was him just looking young lol
Also a point to bring up storm front and solider boy both had their V after they were born and not when they were young unlike most.
It’s because in the comics soldier boy and stormfront had an anti aging compound in their V while home lander had his removed because he would’ve never grown up since he had his powers at birth. I think…
Wouldn't make much sense because yknow..soldier boy in the comics was able to age. And was three different people
@silentgamer8592 bro different continuites
@Reflection554 he said in the comics. There's no other continuity "bro". Literally only one universe in the comics.
I feel like if you get compound v when you body is done maturing then you won’t age
@nightlasher no one else did tho. The whole payback team aged
It's programmed obsolescence. Just like what electronics companies do to their products to keep you buying.
"Bad product"
Planned obsolescence lol
I like the idea of people paying taxes for super heroes lol
@@LisaAnn777plan and program are synonymous.
It's a shame we are aware companies do this but we don't do anything about it lol
In the last episode of season 4 when Homelander saw Soldier boy, I suddenly knew he is gonna get his anti aging for him. Because Homelander was pretty upset because of his aging
I never thought of that.
if vought didnt managed to do it i strongly doubt that homelander is
@@sliferskydragon9798Remember he has SAGE.
@@akshat8586and smart as she is, she will not help keep him around.
Very good theory. That’s why he was so happy to find him!
In the former German Democratic Republic, there was a company that made glassware that was virtually unbreakable. It was named "Superfest" or "CV-Glas".
After Germany's reunification, that company was liquidated, and the patent for that glas was abandoned - yet nobody is producing that type of glasware.
The reason for that is simple: if you make glas that doesn’t break, you only sell it once. But if it breaks, then you also get to sell the replacement.
Vought sells Compound-V. If it turns people into invulnerable supersoldiers who don't age, they only sell it once per soldier. If they sell an inferior version of the drug that needs to be applied on a regular basis, they can make more money. That was the entire rationale behind the development of V24, it's even explained in the show.
Season 2 huh?demn thats crazy ngl
Similar plot in the old movie, ‘The Man with the White Suit’. Indestructible cloth, the capitalists and labor united against it.
@edbouhl3100 Dang, I know that movie.
If I remember correctly, the inventor of that cloth gets hunted by everyone until, in the end, he gets sprayed with water and his suit dissolves because his invention isn't waterproof.
@@BrokenCurtain Yep. And then we see him walking away looking at his notebook, saying ‘of course’💡, and snapping it shut. Alec Guinness.
@@BrokenCurtain Thank you for the info about the German glassware company. Is the recipe for the super-glass still known? You might like the documentary "Comprar, Tirar, Comprar" titled in English "The Lightbulb Conspiracy".
Stormfront and Soldier Boy are the only supes created with Frederick Vought's original formula, which also gave immortality. For some reason, the original formula was either lost by Vought International or purposefully powered down, so supes weren't immortal anymore (maybe a security measure). Homelander was created using a special procedure that resulted in tue most powerful supe ever, but it still used the weaker formula.
I think they just thought that by having super eternals, they would be less controllable
my theory is that we know almost every supe in existence has had compound v in them since they were babies and because they were injected as babies they still needed to grow which is why the compound v didn't affect their aging and since Homelander was just a compound v test tube baby this cause his aging to accelerate the only reason soldier boy and Stormfront didn't age was because they were injected with compound v in their adulthood which paused their aging
@@darthvader7508 explain the entire team of payback. They got injected and adults and aged. We know that because they're around his age and he was the first.
@@silentgamer8592i am not sure they were injected as adults, they are younger than SB
There was a supe in Gen V who looked 14 but was 28 because the V made him forever young until Cate killed him
@SamuelNdishu it gave him a young appearance forever. He was extremely tall which imo implied his youth was superficial. But even if we assume he'd be immortal to time fully....what's that change about what I've said?
@@silentgamer8592 he wasn't tall. He was the shortest in the group and even said he had a hairless prick. That guy stopped aging and I suspect supes like Kimiko are the same
I would argue that Soldier Boy isn't weaker than Homelander. When they fought 1v1, Soldier Boy was tired and weakened after firing off a full power blast only moments earlier. Soldier Boy wasn't at full strength.
Meanwhile Homelander was fresh. So that's why he seemed stronger.
I thought so, too.
Soldier boy is Almost Strong as Homelander ,but still a little weaker ,Still he was way weaker after that Blast
Stan Edgar said in this Cartoon flashback of Black Noir that he get stronfer than soldier boy
@@Kartik-ij2vy Still his blast if hits homelander could atleast decrease homelanders power by 50%
They still needed to team up on him.
Soldier Boy received a purer, stronger dose.
I think this is valid I also like the programmed adolescence gotta keep it new
It is just stress
When you are stressed you get grey hairs
sister sage first comments upon seeing him saying "All men your age go through it" so im pretty sure the story writers are trying to tell us he is aging
i think soldier boy wouldve been stressed in russia
Can’t wait to find a gray nut hair
@@Levi-sp4me he was very awake during the torture
@@Levi-sp4meFrozen!!??, he was tortured and experimented on for about 40 years!!.
My guess is that stormfront is homelander’s mother or rather, genetic donor. Similar to soldier boy. They wanted the strongest super to ever live. Stormfront was a very versatile and powerful super, and the wife of Frederick Vought, who better to get a sample from? I believe they genetically choose the best trait from both but better. stormfront’s flight and plasma abilities and Soldier boy strength and durability. Homelander has both but better. He doesn’t need propulsion unlike stormfront and his plasma is instantaneous and more precise and he’s stronger and more durable than soldier boy, not to mention, faster.
I personally think Homelander was the result of heavily tampering with his genetics. Neither Stormfront and soldier boy have blue eyes or blonde hair, its possible that because they were trying to create the ultimate American superhero they also altered his appearance to give him those physical traits, its also possible that those genes were present in either stormfront or soldier boys bloodline/ genetics and scientist would know this since they were studying their genetics to create homelander. Who knows how many changes they made to this man’s dna, but for sure it was heavily tampering considering he was considered sterile. I also think this contributes in some form to his mental instability, or in other words, they tampered so much of his DNA that it rendered him insane. He reminds me so much of William Dafoe’s green goblin in that aspect (that he hears voice, sees his reflection talking to him in the mirror etc.)
Anyways, back to the topic, they combined the dna of the strongest supers alive and combined into a human being. So, they found a surrogate mother. Someone that won’t be missed if she’s gone. Then, they dosed him with V while he was still in the womb and this is why we’re told in the show he was born with powers and killed his surrogate mother. He hasn’t spent a second on earth being powerless.
The problem is, how does 2 immortals, create a mortal? Simple. They don’t. The scientists that were making him turned the genes that make would make him immortal off. That is the contingency plan against him. Planned obsolescence. It just makes sense. They didn’t want to repeat the same mistake with Soldier boy and his immortality. They knew he would be powerful, and having and immoral being stronger than soldier boy and stormfront combined would be too much for vought to handle.
best and most show approriate rationale theory so far
Hey, Homelander should definitely have an expiration date
No, Homelander killed his biological mother at birth. & Solider Boy has been confirmed as the only Donor. As he said himself “I beat my meat in a cup” that lets you know stormfront isn’t Homelander mom. She would know if she had him as a child. Shes been a sup for almost a 100 years
@@marcelousneal4641 no, they never said the woman that died giving birth to him was his biological mother, they FLAT OUT said they payed a runaway/hooker to carry him. Meaning she wasn’t his biological mother.
Soldier boy was stated to be a donor but they never said he was the ONLY DONOR. Also that point about stormfront knowing is illogical because by that logic Soldier boy should have known as well he’s as old as stormfront but he didn’t know even though his teammates knew (mindstorm, Black noir etc.)
@@RedMist97 It’s already been confirmed his mom died “giving birth to him” which we all know if you read the comics it shows how Homelander ripped out his moms stomach as a baby. Also I think in season 3 or 4 they said this same thing about how he killed his mom at birth. Stomfront has no relation to Homelander. It’s a fun theory to think about but it’s already been debunked by the show itself.
My theory:
Homelander was born with powers, so Compound V is part of his DNA, it ages with him as he clearly grew up from a baby and will also grow old alongside it. When a normal person take V their whole body's dna changes (sometimes resulting in horrific abominations) and stays that way. For Homelander it is simply part of his blood from birth and has no aging effects, he can reproduce other Supes naturally though, case in point his own son; Ryan - who has also grown up into a teenager throughout the series and will become a man and then old like everyone else.
Second theory: Considering Temp V is a real thing in The Boys universe (giving Billy Butcher a brain tumour and insanity too) it could be Homelander's V isn't a permanent serum like the original heroes (soldier boy, etc) so maybe the show will end with Homelander losing his powers entirely which would be so satisfying imo. If Temp V made Billy crazy (talking to a darker version of himself) that could also explain why Homelander is also so unhinged, Billy is becoming Homelander and he is becoming Billy (slowly dying of temp V)
that's a good theory but i think the main reason for Homelander being unhinged has to do with the fact that he was born and raised in a lab where he was physically and mentally tortured and imprisoned for all his childhood and adolescence, i feel like that would be enough to do it for most people
The first theory is the only valid one
He just doesn't have "slowed aging" as his power set, simple as that. Being injected at early age or even born with Compound-V only makes it safer due to the fact that newborns (especially fetuses) are more malleable.
I really hope they don't reveal something stupid like compound v making him insane, his mental health is carefully crafted, it's so beautiful, making it just "this random thing makes you crazy" would cheapen so much of it
This was my theory. Homelander was born, rather than being dosed with Compound V. So while Stormfront and Soldier Boy were enhanced by V and lucky enough to win the lottery of powers.
Meanwhile, Homelander is the result of artificial insemination via Soldier Boy's sperm, and presumably got prodded and poked around in vitro to ensure he was a good specimen. It's likely that side effect of inheriting CompV via genetics rather than being dosed is being vulnerable to the aging process, at least in Homelander's case anyway.
It is also plausible that Homelander's aging is by design, so that Vought could ensure eventually the next product can be rolled out at a suitable time.
I don’t know why people keep saying that he’s aging “fast”. Dude is 43. He’s aging at a normal rate.
The question is why do Stormfront and Soldier Boy age slowly?
Exactly. My guess would be that the original formula had more likely to have anti-aging powers. Vought eventually got sick of dealing with immortal supes so they deliberately took out those properties
Why did old cars last a very long time, while modern, more powerful cars last less? It's the same thing
Hard to say whether or not Vought can make anti-aging V or not. My guess is they can not.
I don't think it's just the cost.
Because if they could make it, one of the more wealthy Vought CEOs would want to make it and take it.
So the anti-aging superheroes, probably just Stormfront and Soldier Boy. (Unless there are others that got the same dose - that we don't know about.)
Most current supes are going to age.
But, response to the product is very individual.
So there could be a few supes that will develop anti-aging. But that would be random and rare.
I wonder if the meds Firecracker is taking is a big factor in Homelander's ageing. The jar of grey hair is much more full at the end of S4 than at the beginning.
Lol XD
A man must have his priorities.
Homelander was given Compound V from the moment of conception. Vought had to modify the formula to allow the embryo to grow into an adult. But in order for them to do that they had to remove the anti-aging component of the serum which is why Homelander constantly ages.
I think he’s abusing V the way A-Train was. That’s why he has the extra vials of V
Good point
Why would he need to though? He’s already the strongest superhero and season 4 didn’t showcase his desire to get any stronger.
@@MrYogurtExists to remain stronger
@@MrYogurtExistsprobably after that herogasm ambush he almost died there
@@ayumirebornexactly my point all his life chances are no one ever was strong enough to bruise him then bang he gets bruised and feels week shoots up V to get stronger and it messses with his engerneed genetics and now he is degrading
According to the comics the compound V that the old sups such as Stormfront and Soldier boy received was made from higher quality material which was of course more expensive and chances of survival in adults after injection was higher but the newer version was made from lower quality materials to reduce costs and it had some side effects such as lower survival rates in adults after injection which is why they inject them as infants so my personal theory is that because the old compound V was made of higher quality material it affected the aging process of some sups and I’m saying some sups because not all of them were immune to aging
I think it’s either the trade off. That if you get infected as a kid you have a higher chance to survive, but you age because they are still growing. Stormfront and Solider Boy are both adults they were both fully developed adults so it interacted with their body differently.
After all Homelander was injected as a fetus..if he ages slow he’d still be a toddler by the time of the Boys if not still an infant…same with all the 7 they’d all still be children if they all aged slow. So it could be by design if they inject children to increase the chance of survival..it’d be hundreds of years before their plan of the 7 would have ever been realized .
My guess is that Vought had to modify the Compound V to allow Homelander to grow into adulthood otherwise he would be stuck as an embryo. In order for him to grow naturally they had remove the anti-aging component of the formula.
I think it's from his encounter with soldier boy's radiation that is causing it.
Yeah that's my guess. Radiation causes cells to break down. Would make sense why Homelander is starting to decay like that.
Ionizing Radiation doesn't harm the supes, it's one of the many ways the Russians tried to kill soldier boy hence the reason he is radioactive.
homelanders and soldier boys powers (besides the slow aging and flying) are very similar so it would be fair to assume that radiation would also have no effect on homelander also adding the fact that homelander was bred from soldier boys dna.
I think a more reasonable explanation would be that compound v is a random lottery when it comes to how it affects people, some can fly, some cant, some age slow, the rest wont.
I think it’s because they both got v as adults and that the v they got was made by Fredrick Vaught so it was more pure like how kfc could recreate the og recipe because the ingredients where to rare and expensive
Bro compared compound V to fucking KFC 💀
@@Knookah yes Vaught is a parody off large corporations so yeah I am comparing Vaught to kfc because it’s obvious a couple that had a secret recipe which kept being made worse due to wanting to make it cheaper to produce
@@Knookah their similar in a way
This being adult point is interesting. Like administering V on adults is more dangerous as they're prone to dying, but if they survive, there's also more chance to be ageless. It would put an ironic dent on HL's fantasy on breeding "master race" supe babies with Maeve eggs; that "lesser" normal humans could be ageless, but he and his kids would wither and die. Would be hilarious if Ashley becomes immortal.
soilderboy and stormfront and kimiko all have healing factors as part of there power set that is why they don't age. Soldier boy and stormfront have durability so they don't really need to use it unlike kimiko. But homelander just got unlucky in the draw of his powers. He has insane durability and other powers but he is lacking the healing factor.
He does have a healing factor if he's just getting gray hair and he's in his 40s already he honestly looks like he's in his late 20s or 30s so he would live passed 100 for sure before he actually starts agein
I think you're right about the healing factor. When Soldier Boy was hit point blank by Butchers lazer eyes he had a deep cut on his face that was completely healed a couple of hours later (when he was getting put in statis), whereas Homelander had to use makeup to hide a simple bruise on his face for days.
All supes have enhanced healing just like strength but by various degree. Stormfront doesn't have anything special in that regard, she just ages slower, not to mention faster healing doesn't necessarily mean slower again might even speed it up.
@@libertyprime1614 trololololol
Stormfront definitely didn't have healing lol
It's a business. Creating perfect compound v is like making a razor that is always sharp. Not beneficial
I think after realising storm front didn't age normally they deliberately made V lesser but used that version once for the allies to prove it wasn't a fluke. Also the doctor was all in on being a nazi and the allies weren't as comitted so he probably didn't want immortal non nazis,
This is one of those typical videos that takes almost 6 minutes to spell out a fan theory that you can explain in 20 to 30 seconds
Homelander is a natural supe in the sense that he had powers the moment he was born. Test tube baby using solider boy’s DNA. Solider boy and stormfront basically took a serum and don’t age at all because of what was in their V. Black noir as well(I think) or he just aged slower because of his crazy regeneration
With adults they can inject the original Compound V formula but with the risk of high mortality rate. With infants the death rate is significantly lower but Vought had to remove the anti-aging part of the formula in order for the babies to grow into adulthood.
Homelander has had two suboptimal [sublethal] exposures to Soldier Boy radiation. Homelander is showing the effects of what amounts to radiation poisoning. Homelander being the strongest supe is just another one of the endless stream of Vought Corporation lies.
By that logic everyone that got close when sb was charging his blast would have radiation poisoning yet no one shows it. And homelander is the strongest super. And herogasm proved it.
@@RedMist97 Steady-state Soldier Boy's radiation is omnidirectional and lower level intensity. His blast is high intensity and directional, like a sci-fi phaser, laser, etc. Soldier Boy powered up his directional beam blaster twice while Homelander was directly in front of him, at Herogasm while Homelander was being held down, and in Vought Tower. Hughey, Butcher, and Queen Maeve would have not have been injured by Soldier Boy's chest beam unless he would have turned his chest toward them. Sister Sage tells Homelander that he [Homelander] can't beat or defeat "him". See is the smartest person in The Boys universe. There are only three possible males to whom she could be referring. 3.) Ryan. Well, Soldier Boy knocked Ryan out rather effortlessly. We have to assume Homelander could do the same. 2.) Butcher. Rested Soldier Boy in Vought Tower cleaned the floor with Butcher. Granted, this was before Butcher's tumor [given supe-killing power by Soldier Boy's incidental radiation inputs?] took over, but is there any indication Sister Sage knows anything about Butcher's tentacles? 1.) Soldier Boy. He is the only supe with the strength, durability, and kill/depower shot [radiation blast] which can defeat Homelander. So unless you are more intelligent than Sister Sage, in her timeline, then Homelander is NOT the most powerful supe. One of the three abovementioned males is, and that man is Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy even said to Homelander that Homelander was just a cheap knock-off. This is why Homelander is ageing out fast after suboptimal [sublethal] exposures to Solder Boy radiation.
@@cylon5741 i ain’t reading allat. Homelander is stronger than soldier boy as proved in herogasm and he never got hit by his radiation blast
@@RedMist97 Read what and as you wish. Which male supe was Sister Sage referring to when she told Homelander that he [Homelander] could not defeat him [the unnamed male supe]? Or do you know more than Sister Sage? LOL
@@cylon5741 she might just referr to homelander himself
The Boys writers are so inconsistent with powers. S4, they dwarfed Kimiko's powers and elevated Starlight's powers when before it was the other way around. Kimiko fought the Black Noir #1 toe-to-toe but died "after" a good fight. Starlight got crushed by Black Noir #1. But against the shapeshifter she killed Kimiko with little effort then Starlight crushes the shifter with no effort. Nueman is extremely powerful and took HL laser to the face with no effect & doesn't need to see to use her powers, but they made Butcher's Tentacles hold her with no effort and no scratch and rip her apart.
Why did you put quotes on the word after and not die 😹😹😹
It’s obvious starlight is getting stronger
Ummm...they've literally shown Starlight working on getting more powerful and you think it's inconsistent writing that her hard work is starting to pay off? 😂
Ultimately it's a TV show, the characters are only as strong as the writers canonically make them to keep with their story arcs.
But, the writers wanted her out of the show, and wanted to demonstrate how strong butcher has become, so she had die
that's power scaling for you
Homelander can regulate his heat vision, remember when he use it to heat milk... If he wanted kill Neuman, he would...
I think the way this works is people who were injected with V as adults stop aging, while people who were injected with V as infants age normally
I believe that "Kessler" will eventually fight Becca for the power over Butcher. Ryan is EXTREMELY powerful with the way he absolutely destroyed Storm front.
The original 1940s Compound V formula was lost or intentionally worsened by Vought and thus is less efficient at giving people powers, adults had a relatively high survival chance when injected with the original and perfected V formula, due to its chemical purity it had a much higher chance or any chance at all of causing longevity or immortality in a subject like we saw with Stormfront and Soldier Boy, who were both injected with the original V. The new stuff may almost be like a super steroid, long-term exposure such as having it circulate in your blood for 40 years may be causing a degradation of the body as it breaks down.
Can think a number of reasons all which contributed to this (the main point is 5th:
1. Early Supes were selected as adults or were people close to the Vogelbaum team and given compound V. As it was administered to adults, in a way it acted like how Wolverine's healing factor got pumped after gaining adamantium. Compound V acted as making the human body perfect.
2. Vought moved to giving compound V to babies later on because they wanted to show the world that Supes are natural-born unlike the first generation who could be said to have come out of hiding.
3. Compound V acted even in babies to make them grow more perfect and with a healthy body and that means allowing it grow older, maybe even helping them grow faster physically. However, the anti-aging or healing properties were diminished because the compounds they intake were at birth. The more power the Supe uses, the lower the compound effect becomes.
4. Even other members of the Seven looked old in season 1. But A-train who was a younger member than others who looked not only young but remained so because he was taking V even in adulthood.
5. In accordance to point 2, Vought realized that their first batch of heroes were aging very slowly, with the Paycheck team still being active at such late age, particularly Soldier Boy and Stormfront. Vought realized two problems with them, one if Supes start becoming immortals, they will become Gods and will be really hard for them as a company to control. Second, humans might just rebel against the Supes en large if they see Supes not aging or trying to be god. Both cases becoming a loss for Vought
I think the babies/children that received compound-V were still allowed to age because they still had to grow up... and the adults that received compound-V were allowed to slow their aging because they were already grown. But maybe later Vought chose to let 2nd generation supes age after they saw what fuck-ups the supes could be.
BUT - in the s4 finale we see that Homelander has a ton of gray hairs... perhaps more than the usual 40 yr old. Stan may have been worried about making a supe that strong so they might have added faster aging so they wouldn't be stuck with a super strong man-child supe that nobody else could defeat.
What makes you think Stormfront and Soldier Boy would only live to 200? Their aging seems to have stopped after they took the V. They both look exactly the same in their old photos.
It's probably because Wolverine lived until 200 years old, apparently that's the capped limit for healing factors lol
Great theory on the original pure Compound V and the later version. It's very plausible and explain all the inconsistencies. I'm not Soldier Boy but I approve this message!
Most powerful man in the Boys is also the most fragile. I've seen bubbles that keep themselves together better than Homelander. He is a baby through and through.
Difference is those "bubbles" were raised by actual parents who gave them freedom and choice. Homelander spent his whole life in a lab being raised by cruel scientists who would constantly torture him for scientific experiments and then locked him up in a cell when they were done.
My theory is based on the show the fight with solderboy bruised him to the point of screen he started taking V which we see when Atrain is snooping around and my guess is, it might of over clocked the V in his system and caused his Genes that was binding him to become unstable and force him to start degrading… so I don’t think he is aging the way people think he is I believe it’s just the V in him been overshot to the point he is falling apart
I just assumed he didn't have the slowed aging power like Stormfront and Soilder Boy
Same. I thought it might be the individual reaction to compound V.
But since Stormfront and Soldier Boy were created by the original scientist -it probably is a case of the new formula being different.
So most of them probably are going to age, unless Vought changes the formula.
@@francescaa8331 Vought modified the formula as an contingency plan to keep the Supes under control.
In the comic sups all aged less externally, but still changed inside. Since the younger someone gets V the stronger and more survivable they got and homelander was exposed as a fetus that's why he was so strong. Storm front in the books was also one of the few sups that trained making him 2nd only to homelander.
It was mentioned that Homelander is an antihero.
To me it appears like that in the truest sense. He has the powers, but he is a normal human being - including aging. He never had a normal childhood and was manipulated into becoming something he is not.
You can see that in his relations to his son. He tried badly to be a good father in real sense, but still does not understand that he will be a lot happier leaving the whole superhero business behind and live a normal simple life.
The aging could be Homelander's body compensating from the radioactive poisoning when he fought Soldier Boy.
There are two versions of the formula, the original Compound V made by Frederick Vought was given to Stormfront and Solder Boy. Vought had since modified the Compound V serum to only give people powers but they intentionally removed the anti-aging aspect to keep Supes under control.
They made sure homelander was psychologically dependent but probably realised such manipulations wouldn't last 100s of years. Either that or the fact they had to manipulate homelander from infancy naturally meant that he had to keep aging to become an adult.. and its not like there was a version of the serum that would let you age till your prime and then stop. Its probably either inject an adult to give the option of not aging.. or let them age. But i think it was a conscious choice either way
It's because the Homelander actor doesn't work out, or focus on lifting weights. The actor even joked that he doesn't need to work out because the costume department can add fake muscles to the suit.
Meanwhile Soldier Boy's actor worked out heavily for the role and lifted a ton of weights. He didn't need to, but the Producers were pleasantly surprised when he showed up to set. So added a bunch of shirtless scenes with Soldier Boy to the TV show.
Working out and having muscles gives older people a youthful look.
In the comic isn't homelander a waif body type because he can't work out to build muscle because of his super strength he would have to lift his max and is too lazy.
This is what you get working 24/7.
I'm surprised Vought didn't put the same failsafe in the supes that Tyrell engineered in the replicants in Blade Runner.
Because they knew that with such tremendous power the person would probably turn out bad, and since they would not be able to control him just make him age super fast so you wouldn't have to beat him, just out last him. He would become super, do a job, then die
I just thought it was that Solderboy, Stormfront and the original Black Noir took Compound V as adults and lived while the other aging Sups took it as babies lower mortality rate but not near immortality
It is just the way Compound V works. The superpowers it grants are generally random and they may come with unexpected or unwanted side effects. It so happens that Homelander did not get the "never age" power. Powers are also influenced by genetics. Maybe he does not have the gene that triggers the "never age" power.
I would assume the 2 reasons for him aging naturally is because, firstly he is the first natural born supe which might have something to do with it. 2nd is how much V they pumped into him before he was even born, perhaps all that V could have either made other abilities stronger and reduced others (his age for example) or the V may have been too much given how much V he got that it may have made his aging even faster, but given he might have had a reduced aging power they cancelled eachother out
Homelander definitely got the "purr" version as you said!😂
i mean for a worst case scenario, aging is the ultimate failsafe against the homelander
“I can fix her “sniff
Storm front fan’s
I didn't start watching, but i already know the answer: "bad product"
Homelander has a drawer full of compound V. It seems he needs to inject compound V regularly to keep his powers. That might increase his aging.
I believe Homelander has all that V in his room so that only he can control who receives it.
Noticed. SB & SF received V when fully developped. So the idea is if a kid receive a V the body still age.
My theory is that it’s vought plans for their heroes to age and die naturally. Soldier boy lived for so long that when time comes for a replacement they had to go through all the trouble to get rid of him. Imagine 70 year old Homelander looking young as ever, he would never give up his spot and no hero could ever try to ambush him to take him out.
Logically speaking varying degrees of agelessness would just be another power subjects might be getting or not, just like varying degrees of regeneration or super strength.
From a business perspective though, super heroes who aren't ageless are much easier to control, so I wouldn't be surprised if that might have actually been on purpose.
It's the cape that's making him age
Some Solid Snake stuff. Homelander was never meant to last - maybe? I don’t think the ageing will actually be able to get him though.
Its simply because of the formula. The version that stormfront and Soldier boy got is the purest form of compound V made by the Founder of Vought himself. Homelanders version is different.
I assumed it came from a version of V where anti-aging was a common-ish side effect that had to be removed when it became safer to give to children so that they could grow up. Maybe the adult death rate was the same or even higher but the child death rate was just similar at the time so they didn't give it to children
I believe the less pure version of compound V was intentional. Supes that age is necessary for turn over, and making it lethal to adults helps sell supes are born not made.
As for why he let his daughter pass, I’m not sure. It might’ve been an oversight by the creators, or he had to sell the fact he forgot the original formula at all cost.
Both soldier boy and homelander are right. He is a knock off, but he’s also an upgrade in some ways.
In the show they said Homelander didn't get V but was born with it
Actually Isaiah Bradley was the 1st successful trial of the Super Soldier Serum
2nd technically. Just the first without Erskine.
😅 unpopular opinion. Edgar contaminated the Compound V formula on porpuse so if someone like Homelander get's out of control he would at least die of age, or could be eliminated by the anti V virus.
As Jessica / Sister Sage claimed to found a formula against cancer, and Butcher becoming a V-Tumor-Soup i think we get some crazy compund X stuff in the final season.
I thought Homelander was born with his powers? Seeing that he's Soldier Boy's son, and the reveal of how he eye-lasered his way out of his surrogate mother's womb the day he was born. Did I miss something, and he was given compound V in utero?
I think they removed anti aging on purpose so that they could easily replace him instead of using the route they went to get rid of SB .
= Retconn…
Before season 4, not once was it foreshadowed… and the logical in-show plot is likely in the experiment on baby Homelander is just in case he’s an out of control manic like Soldier Boy.
Soldier Boy is the strongest. Everyone after him is below him. I like this theory.
Maybe Homelander is immortal but stops aging like Master Roshi at a body age of 80 years old.
I assumed it was because he was born with his powers like Ryan.
I like the idea that vought was also a fraud, and the original formula was invented by one of his subordinates.
Homelander was born a supe. He killed everyone in the birthing room.
May be it’s because of the expectation put on homelander when he was Young, we assume that V base power on the psychic of the person so to a kid who people expect of him to be perfect and « grow well » that make grow faster but in other mental condition he will be like other sup
Dude the goal was to create a product that created a temporary effect and to carefully know how much powerfull the temporary treatment would make someone because that is the end comercial goal. Homelander was made to age normally as both an experiment as well as a safety in case he would turn evil and dominate the world (bro literally has an expiration date)
Isn't Homelander like 41, added with all the stress he's under its normal. Teens get grey hairs when their facing a lot of stress. It's not increased aging.
no homelander IS aging. It's one of if not is his biggest insecurity. It's not just grey hairs but the show talks about how his body has wrinkles and... other stuff that happens to older men. They're not directing the show as if hes getting grey hairs from stress but as through he's getting older and will eventually die. They even contrast him with his son ryan to show ryan is much more youthful and perfect for an audience compared to homelander
@@Shardso right his age is a big factor in the show, and the fact that he's worried about his own mortality, but that doesn't mean there's an increased aging factor aside from stress. He's worried about getting old, added on with everything else which is why it's being highlighted in the show like you said. This doesn't necessarily mean there's an reason he's aging faster other than stress.
Homelander was a supe before being born and it was confirmed in season 4. He and his son are the first born super heros but homelanders son was the first natural born. People with v don't get more powers taking it instead they become stronger and get high off them.
I like to think as a kind of headcanon somewhere out there in the infinite multiverse, there is a timeline where he does get the pure version and becomes comparable to Superman with the added bonus of no aging (basically the Plutonian).
This a good series don’t bring marvel cringe into this you are ruining it 🤦
ashley is poisoning him
The only thing scarier that Homelander is an old Homelander becoming senile and even more unstable
This is a long theory to say one is cryogenically frozen and the other is kinda dead.
It’s a meta commentary of how long the show is taking, as you say it makes no sense, as Stormfront or Solider-boy, he should in theory be immortal, yet the actor is aging as the show is like 5 years old, and will probably take another or 2 more years 😂
It's called literary symmetry. Everyone self-actualizes their power set. Butcher became equal to his nemesis. Hughie became invisible and naked. Soldier boy and Stormfront didn't care about aging. Homey does. He is making himself age. Deep is very shallow. Probably called shallow all his life.
He was born with V in his system, so its wouldn't affect how slow he ages
Homelander wasn't dosed he like Ryan was born from
no proof thar the Homelander cant live several centuries. He may just look like buff old man
I think the V they use in modern time , is much lower because they want supes to be like they born that way, so if all the supe live like 200 years it would make people say something about it
I was thinking about this too, but I don't think its not a double edged sword. Homelander will get older but you notice how Homelander has similar issues as Billy and Soldier boy? Which is they all have mental degradation that makes them hear voices and devolve into paranoid delusions. Soldier boy clearly keeps tripping thinking he hears ppl who aren't around, and Billy had the parasite but Homelander, he's just mentally broken but could compound V be the reason theyre devolving as such
Actually, Soldier Boy calling Homelander a "cheap fucking knock-off" has multiple meanings if you think about it.
1. In universe, Homelander got the mass produced, cheap Vought Corp compound V vs the pure, concentrated version made by hand by Doctor Vought that Soldier Bly and Stormfront had.
2. Outside the universe, Homelander really is a cheap knock-off of Superman, just like almost every other Supe that are direct parodies of existing superheroes. Opposite from his dad, an UPGRADE from Cap. America, being the iirc only Supe more powerful than the hero they're parodying at baseline.
3. In universe again, and other people have said this, there is a decent probability that Soldier Boy is actually quite a bit stronger than Homelander.
Proof: In the first fight between SB, HL, and Butcher, SB had just fired his most powerful Radiation Beam up to that point, and the show repeatedly shows us SB weakened after every radiation blast, so SB was fighting HL not at full power. Also, Butcher, roided up with Temp V, developed levels of strenght and endurance that's somewhat on par with HL, we see them exchange blows back and forth with no sign of each of them weakening after every hit. That detail is important, because, in the finale fight between SB and The Boys, he was laying them to waste, and especially, clearly overpowering a Temp V amped Butcher, the same Temp V Butcher that fought HL to a stalemate. So, it's not that much of a stretch to say that had HL not been preoccupied with Queen Maeve and went out to fight SB, he would've gotten a beating like how Butcher would have.
Man, Homelander can't catch a break...
Homie won an 1v3 then 1v4 + frenchie and he literally took down the government. All sol ever did was participate in some fake propaganda video of dday make everyone hate him and have his own friends sell him off to the Russians.
Homelander has not reached his peak and will stop aging at that point.
A person such as Homelander, with such abilities, should and would be a ticking time bomb, and the scientists that raised him knew this very well. So, they had to create possible contingency plans not one, but more than one including his normal human-like aging, since other supes can possibly be neutralized without much hassle. As for Stormfront, well, she was not made under the supervision of THE AMERICAN PATRIOTISM, though contingencies such as American supes were taken into account
He probably just didn't get the slowed ageing power.
Sounds spot on
If that were the case wouldn’t Black Noir be stronger than Homelander?
Well they'd need the child to actually grow up in order for them to be some semblance of effective and efficient but also to die in case they were a threat. Aside from possible business related considerations.
I agree with you.
It’s the stress the same is happening to Ryan don’t you see
In genv the metal bender guy is shown light headedness comes early than his father ... I also believe that he is stronger than his father at metal bending but I can't prove that yet ... which may conclude that although next generations of supes that has a parental relation to their powers they become stronger as compound v becomes more effective which also means double the side effects ... I believe also the show kinda foreshadowed that in rayn but I still can't confirm on that theory.
Stormfront and Soldierboy don't age *slowly* they just don't age at all since taking the serum. They were given the serum as adults not babies. Homelander is a unique case with the experiments on him as well as Ryan being a unique case given no serum but the rest of the supes were given a different serum than the original which was given to Soldierboy and Stormfront. Also I would say Soldierboy is stronger than Homelander. I don't know if his raw durability and strength is higher but his ability to remove others powers permanently is something Homelander just doesn't have and Soldierboy is strong enough that Homelander could not easily overpower him so definitely think Soldierboy could beat Homelander if they just had a 1v1 fight. It did take Homelander, Butcher, and Maeve to take down Soldierboy.
They were given V in their early 20's and they look around 40. So they did age over the last 80 years, but at about 1/3 or 1/4 rate
@@DogFoxHybrid untrue or at least speculation. The same actors played them in the flashbacks and photographs.
If Homelander had slowed aging he would’ve never grown up from a baby. Stormfront and Soldier boy were made already being adults
So funny that he see himself as a god but it’s just a human with superpowers